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"Andrew W" |
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18 Aug 2007 09:01:57 PM |
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The Christian God is a bit crazy |
The Christian God is a bit crazy.
One minute he wants to throw us all into hell because someone picked a fruit
off a tree, the next minute he sends his only son to save us (with a bloody
sacrifice no less). But he only wants some of us! (depending on which
Christian you talk to). Talk about Mr. 10%. This is not love.
If this isn't a sign of either multiple personality disorder or a horrible
misunderstanding of our Creator then I don't know what is.
This is not rational, loving or even sane.
All this wild and woolly information about God comes from the famous mass
produced Christian Bible.
Isn't it said by Christians that whatever the human heart desires is bad
because the human heart is inherently evil? Then what can we say about the
Bible since so many humans desire it so much?
--
Andrew W.
Jesus said that we must search everywhere for the truth, that we must leave
no stone unturned.
How naive and foolish is the man who thinks he can get all the answers to
life from one convenient book. ~ me
What we are told God and Jesus said, they did not say.
http://www.divinelove.org/volume1/Mission.htm
TABLE OF CONTENTS. Must read!
http://www.divinelove.org/revnt/Rev-TOC-title.htm
The true Creator wants us to be happy and abundant.
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Science_of_Getting_Rich
Audio version. http://website.lineone.net/~cornerstone/richaudio.htm
Think you know what ego is? Think again. The Bible is full of it!
http://www.acim.org/
Religion Exposed!
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~ajwerner
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| User: "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" |
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19 Aug 2007 09:33:53 AM |
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"Andrew W" <removethis_ajwerner@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
news:46c7a49a$0$18304$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
The Christian God is a bit crazy.
One minute he wants to throw us all into hell because someone picked a
fruit off a tree, the next minute he sends his only son to save us (with a
bloody sacrifice no less). But he only wants some of us! (depending on
which Christian you talk to). Talk about Mr. 10%. This is not love.
If this isn't a sign of either multiple personality disorder or a horrible
misunderstanding of our Creator then I don't know what is.
This is not rational, loving or even sane.
a bit crazy?, the christian god is a FUCKING LUNATIC.
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| User: "apohran" |
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| Title: Re: The Christian God is a bit crazy |
19 Aug 2007 03:01:57 PM |
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On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 12:01:57 +1000, Andrew W wrote:
The Christian God is a bit crazy.
One minute he wants to throw us all into hell because someone picked a fruit
off a tree, the next minute he sends his only son to save us (with a bloody
sacrifice no less). But he only wants some of us! (depending on which
Christian you talk to). Talk about Mr. 10%. This is not love.
If this isn't a sign of either multiple personality disorder or a horrible
misunderstanding of our Creator then I don't know what is.
This is not rational, loving or even sane.
All this wild and woolly information about God comes from the famous mass
produced Christian Bible.
Isn't it said by Christians that whatever the human heart desires is bad
because the human heart is inherently evil? Then what can we say about the
Bible since so many humans desire it so much?
Andrew,
I think you've misinterpreted (whether willingly or not) the christian
doctrine..
In John it is written "in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was
with God and the Word was God." Jesus was with God from the beginning, and
was meant to come and die to pay the ransom of sin from the beginning.
This was not some quick action God took on a whimsical thought, but a plan
to save humanity from our own evil.
Humanity was doomed to evil not because a fruit was picked off of a tree,
but because man disobeyed God and thus brought sin upon ourselves.
Moving along, He doesn't want only some of us - He wants all of us. The
problem is that not everyone wants Him. Would you not agree to this?
I don't understand your conclusion that the bible must be
incorrect...nothing seems like it doesn't fit so far.........
--
apohran
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| User: "Andrew W" |
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| Title: Re: The Christian God is a bit crazy |
19 Aug 2007 12:08:40 AM |
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"apohran" <none@email.com> wrote in message
news:46c8a1b5$1@news.cuneo2lemon.net...
On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 12:01:57 +1000, Andrew W wrote:
The Christian God is a bit crazy.
One minute he wants to throw us all into hell because someone picked a
fruit
off a tree, the next minute he sends his only son to save us (with a
bloody
sacrifice no less). But he only wants some of us! (depending on which
Christian you talk to). Talk about Mr. 10%. This is not love.
If this isn't a sign of either multiple personality disorder or a
horrible
misunderstanding of our Creator then I don't know what is.
This is not rational, loving or even sane.
All this wild and woolly information about God comes from the famous mass
produced Christian Bible.
Isn't it said by Christians that whatever the human heart desires is bad
because the human heart is inherently evil? Then what can we say about
the
Bible since so many humans desire it so much?
Andrew,
I think you've misinterpreted (whether willingly or not) the christian
doctrine..
In John it is written "in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was
with God and the Word was God." Jesus was with God from the beginning, and
was meant to come and die to pay the ransom of sin from the beginning.
This was not some quick action God took on a whimsical thought, but a plan
to save humanity from our own evil.
Humanity was doomed to evil not because a fruit was picked off of a tree,
but because man disobeyed God and thus brought sin upon ourselves.
Moving along, He doesn't want only some of us - He wants all of us. The
problem is that not everyone wants Him. Would you not agree to this?
No one can find him. How can you want someone you can't find?
How can you love someone who pays back evil with evil (revenge)?
I don't understand your conclusion that the bible must be
incorrect...nothing seems like it doesn't fit so far.........
Have you ever tried thinking for yourself and using some discernment about
what you read in books?
--
Andrew W.
Jesus said that we must search everywhere for the truth, that we must leave
no stone unturned.
How naive and foolish is the man who thinks he can get all the answers to
life from one convenient book. ~ me
What we are told God and Jesus said, they did not say.
http://www.divinelove.org/volume1/Mission.htm
TABLE OF CONTENTS. Must read!
http://www.divinelove.org/revnt/Rev-TOC-title.htm
The true Creator wants us to be happy and abundant.
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Science_of_Getting_Rich
Audio version. http://website.lineone.net/~cornerstone/richaudio.htm
Think you know what ego is? Think again. The Bible is full of it!
http://www.acim.org/
Religion Exposed!
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~ajwerner
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| User: "apohran" |
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19 Aug 2007 04:47:43 PM |
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On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 15:08:40 +1000, Andrew W wrote:
"apohran" <none@email.com> wrote in message
news:46c8a1b5$1@news.cuneo2lemon.net...
On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 12:01:57 +1000, Andrew W wrote:
The Christian God is a bit crazy.
One minute he wants to throw us all into hell because someone picked a
fruit
off a tree, the next minute he sends his only son to save us (with a
bloody
sacrifice no less). But he only wants some of us! (depending on which
Christian you talk to). Talk about Mr. 10%. This is not love.
If this isn't a sign of either multiple personality disorder or a
horrible
misunderstanding of our Creator then I don't know what is.
This is not rational, loving or even sane.
All this wild and woolly information about God comes from the famous mass
produced Christian Bible.
Isn't it said by Christians that whatever the human heart desires is bad
because the human heart is inherently evil? Then what can we say about
the
Bible since so many humans desire it so much?
Andrew,
I think you've misinterpreted (whether willingly or not) the christian
doctrine..
In John it is written "in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was
with God and the Word was God." Jesus was with God from the beginning, and
was meant to come and die to pay the ransom of sin from the beginning.
This was not some quick action God took on a whimsical thought, but a plan
to save humanity from our own evil.
Humanity was doomed to evil not because a fruit was picked off of a tree,
but because man disobeyed God and thus brought sin upon ourselves.
Moving along, He doesn't want only some of us - He wants all of us. The
problem is that not everyone wants Him. Would you not agree to this?
No one can find him. How can you want someone you can't find?
How can you love someone who pays back evil with evil (revenge)?
I don't understand your conclusion that the bible must be
incorrect...nothing seems like it doesn't fit so far.........
Have you ever tried thinking for yourself and using some discernment about
what you read in books?
Andrew,
You'll have to be just a bit more specific...you say "No one can find
him." What do you mean ?
I see no problem in finding God... can you explain your problem?
Second, I can love this someone because He doesn't pay back evil with
evil. He pays back evil with justice. All sin must be accounted for, and
the fact that He is just enough to not waver and make sure it is done
speaks volumes for righteousness and makes His character more
attractive...come to think of it, I probably couldn't love someone who
wasn't accountable to justice in their character.
I have read many books, what does this have to do with anything :P
--
apohran
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| User: "Andrew W" |
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19 Aug 2007 04:46:37 AM |
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"apohran" <none@email.com> wrote in message
news:46c8ba7f$1@news.cuneo2lemon.net...
On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 15:08:40 +1000, Andrew W wrote:
"apohran" <none@email.com> wrote in message
news:46c8a1b5$1@news.cuneo2lemon.net...
Andrew,
I think you've misinterpreted (whether willingly or not) the christian
doctrine..
In John it is written "in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was
with God and the Word was God." Jesus was with God from the beginning,
and
was meant to come and die to pay the ransom of sin from the beginning.
This was not some quick action God took on a whimsical thought, but a
plan
to save humanity from our own evil.
Humanity was doomed to evil not because a fruit was picked off of a
tree,
but because man disobeyed God and thus brought sin upon ourselves.
Moving along, He doesn't want only some of us - He wants all of us. The
problem is that not everyone wants Him. Would you not agree to this?
No one can find him. How can you want someone you can't find?
How can you love someone who pays back evil with evil (revenge)?
I don't understand your conclusion that the bible must be
incorrect...nothing seems like it doesn't fit so far.........
Have you ever tried thinking for yourself and using some discernment
about
what you read in books?
Andrew,
You'll have to be just a bit more specific...you say "No one can find
him." What do you mean ?
I see no problem in finding God... can you explain your problem?
Who can say with certainty that they have found God?
Who even knows what God is? Do you know what God is? To you he's probably
just the character in your Christian Bible. But would you be able to
identify him if you encountered him? Would you be able to distinguish him
from a spirit who puts sweet talking voices in your head?
There are thousands of religions that say they've found God yet they all
contradict each other.
Some gods make people kill each other.
Does God have thousands of opposing personalities?
Second, I can love this someone because He doesn't pay back evil with
evil. He pays back evil with justice.
<big laugh> The Christian idea of justice is nothing more than payback with
the same kind of cruelty.
Real justice is remedying the effects of a transgression and healing the
ones affected, not dishing out more violence and death to get even. Can't
you see this?
A Creator who is love should be able to use his love to heal the sickness of
sin that befalls his own creations.
But being a human contrivance the Christian god only does what humans often
do - get revenge.
All sin must be accounted for, and
the fact that He is just enough to not waver and make sure it is done
speaks volumes for righteousness and makes His character more
attractive...come to think of it, I probably couldn't love someone who
wasn't accountable to justice in their character.
You and other Christians just like to see violence carried out against your
perceived enemies.
You have a fetish for cruel iron fisted Gods. This is not the divine
reality. This is not love.
You guys have a lot of evolving to do mentally and spiritually.
I have read many books, what does this have to do with anything :P
What kinds of books do you read? I don't think Christians read many books on
philosophy and spirituality.
If they did they would be smarter in these matters. Such books are a lot
more enlightening than much of the Bible.
--
Andrew W.
Jesus said that we must search everywhere for the truth, that we must leave
no stone unturned.
How naive and foolish is the man who thinks he can get all the answers to
life from one convenient book. ~ me
What we are told God and Jesus said, they did not say.
http://www.divinelove.org/volume1/Mission.htm
TABLE OF CONTENTS. Must read!
http://www.divinelove.org/revnt/Rev-TOC-title.htm
The true Creator wants us to be happy and abundant.
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Science_of_Getting_Rich
Audio version. http://website.lineone.net/~cornerstone/richaudio.htm
Think you know what ego is? Think again. The Bible is full of it!
http://www.acim.org/
Religion Exposed!
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~ajwerner
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| User: "Poster" |
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19 Aug 2007 07:03:27 PM |
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"Andrew" == Andrew W <removethis_ajwerner@optushome.com.au> writes:
[...]
Andrew> Jesus said that we must search everywhere for the truth,
Andrew> that we must leave no stone unturned. How naive and
Andrew> foolish is the man who thinks he can get all the answers
Andrew> to life from one convenient book. ~ me
[...]
This is an interesting conclusion regarding the Statements of Jesus.
If it doesn't "put you out" too much, may I ask where you found the
support for this statement?
--
Most general statements are false, including this one.
-- Alexander Dumas
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| User: "apohran" |
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20 Aug 2007 11:56:24 AM |
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On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 19:46:37 +1000, Andrew W wrote:
"apohran" <none@email.com> wrote in message
news:46c8ba7f$1@news.cuneo2lemon.net...
On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 15:08:40 +1000, Andrew W wrote:
"apohran" <none@email.com> wrote in message
news:46c8a1b5$1@news.cuneo2lemon.net...
Andrew,
I think you've misinterpreted (whether willingly or not) the christian
doctrine..
In John it is written "in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was
with God and the Word was God." Jesus was with God from the beginning,
and
was meant to come and die to pay the ransom of sin from the beginning.
This was not some quick action God took on a whimsical thought, but a
plan
to save humanity from our own evil.
Humanity was doomed to evil not because a fruit was picked off of a
tree,
but because man disobeyed God and thus brought sin upon ourselves.
Moving along, He doesn't want only some of us - He wants all of us. The
problem is that not everyone wants Him. Would you not agree to this?
No one can find him. How can you want someone you can't find?
How can you love someone who pays back evil with evil (revenge)?
I don't understand your conclusion that the bible must be
incorrect...nothing seems like it doesn't fit so far.........
Have you ever tried thinking for yourself and using some discernment
about
what you read in books?
Andrew,
You'll have to be just a bit more specific...you say "No one can find
him." What do you mean ?
I see no problem in finding God... can you explain your problem?
Who can say with certainty that they have found God?
Who even knows what God is? Do you know what God is? To you he's probably
just the character in your Christian Bible. But would you be able to
identify him if you encountered him? Would you be able to distinguish him
from a spirit who puts sweet talking voices in your head?
There are thousands of religions that say they've found God yet they all
contradict each other.
Some gods make people kill each other.
Does God have thousands of opposing personalities?
Second, I can love this someone because He doesn't pay back evil with
evil. He pays back evil with justice.
<big laugh> The Christian idea of justice is nothing more than payback with
the same kind of cruelty.
Real justice is remedying the effects of a transgression and healing the
ones affected, not dishing out more violence and death to get even. Can't
you see this?
A Creator who is love should be able to use his love to heal the sickness of
sin that befalls his own creations.
But being a human contrivance the Christian god only does what humans often
do - get revenge.
All sin must be accounted for, and
the fact that He is just enough to not waver and make sure it is done
speaks volumes for righteousness and makes His character more
attractive...come to think of it, I probably couldn't love someone who
wasn't accountable to justice in their character.
You and other Christians just like to see violence carried out against your
perceived enemies.
You have a fetish for cruel iron fisted Gods. This is not the divine
reality. This is not love.
You guys have a lot of evolving to do mentally and spiritually.
I have read many books, what does this have to do with anything :P
What kinds of books do you read? I don't think Christians read many books on
philosophy and spirituality.
If they did they would be smarter in these matters. Such books are a lot
more enlightening than much of the Bible.
Andrew,
you're making a lot of stereotypical generalisations :)
there are 1.6 billion "Christians" in the world, surely we cannot be all
the same.
--
apohran
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| User: "Andrew W" |
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20 Aug 2007 08:57:06 AM |
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"apohran" <none@email.com> wrote in message
news:46c9c7b8$1@news.cuneo2lemon.net...
On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 19:46:37 +1000, Andrew W wrote:
"apohran" <none@email.com> wrote in message
news:46c8ba7f$1@news.cuneo2lemon.net...
Second, I can love this someone because He doesn't pay back evil with
evil. He pays back evil with justice.
<big laugh> The Christian idea of justice is nothing more than payback
with
the same kind of cruelty.
Real justice is remedying the effects of a transgression and healing the
ones affected, not dishing out more violence and death to get even. Can't
you see this?
A Creator who is love should be able to use his love to heal the sickness
of
sin that befalls his own creations.
But being a human contrivance the Christian god only does what humans
often
do - get revenge.
All sin must be accounted for, and
the fact that He is just enough to not waver and make sure it is done
speaks volumes for righteousness and makes His character more
attractive...come to think of it, I probably couldn't love someone who
wasn't accountable to justice in their character.
You and other Christians just like to see violence carried out against
your
perceived enemies.
You have a fetish for cruel iron fisted Gods. This is not the divine
reality. This is not love.
You guys have a lot of evolving to do mentally and spiritually.
I have read many books, what does this have to do with anything :P
What kinds of books do you read? I don't think Christians read many books
on
philosophy and spirituality.
If they did they would be smarter in these matters. Such books are a lot
more enlightening than much of the Bible.
Andrew,
you're making a lot of stereotypical generalisations :)
there are 1.6 billion "Christians" in the world, surely we cannot be all
the same.
Show me a Christian who doesn't believe that our Creator is angry and
punishing and that we are destined for destruction by default.
--
Andrew W.
Jesus said that we must search everywhere for the truth, that we must leave
no stone unturned.
How naive and foolish is the man who thinks he can get all the answers to
life from one convenient book. ~ me
What we are told God and Jesus said, they did not say.
http://www.divinelove.org/volume1/Mission.htm
TABLE OF CONTENTS. Must read!
http://www.divinelove.org/revnt/Rev-TOC-title.htm
The true Creator wants us to be happy and abundant.
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Science_of_Getting_Rich
Audio version. http://website.lineone.net/~cornerstone/richaudio.htm
Think you know what ego is? Think again. The Bible is full of it!
http://www.acim.org/
Religion Exposed!
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~ajwerner
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| User: "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" |
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19 Aug 2007 09:37:05 AM |
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Second, I can love this someone because He doesn't pay back evil with
evil. He pays back evil with justice.
really?, why didn't the ALL-POWERFUL christian god get ff of his FAT, LAZY
***** and PROTECT Jessica Lunsford from being raped and MURDERED?
was your ALL-POWERFUL christian god busy taking a dump the day that she was
murdered?
Tell your HORSESHIT sky pixie to get off of his FAT, LAZY ***** and PROTECT
those that are too young to help themselves.
The christian god loves to kill people, and if he gets to kill some
children, he REALLY gets his rocks off
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| User: "apohran" |
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20 Aug 2007 11:58:23 AM |
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On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 10:37:05 -0400, SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim wrote:
Second, I can love this someone because He doesn't pay back evil with
evil. He pays back evil with justice.
really?, why didn't the ALL-POWERFUL christian god get ff of his FAT, LAZY
***** and PROTECT Jessica Lunsford from being raped and MURDERED?
was your ALL-POWERFUL christian god busy taking a dump the day that she was
murdered?
Tell your HORSESHIT sky pixie to get off of his FAT, LAZY ***** and PROTECT
those that are too young to help themselves.
The christian god loves to kill people, and if he gets to kill some
children, he REALLY gets his rocks off
@poster
what are the purposes of your posts here? The christian god is based upon
the bible. This is the alt.bible group :)
Why are you here if you don't want to talk about God with respect to the
bible?
--
apohran
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| User: "Poster" |
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19 Aug 2007 09:23:46 PM |
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"apohran" == apohran <none@email.com> writes:
[...]
apohran> @poster
apohran> what are the purposes of your posts here? The christian
apohran> god is based upon the bible. This is the alt.bible group
apohran> :)
apohran> Why are you here if you don't want to talk about God with
apohran> respect to the bible?
apohran> -- apohran
Are you saying that asking a question about where someone got
information they used in making claims about Christ is in fact not a
subject having to do with the bible?
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Most general statements are false, including this one.
-- Alexander Dumas
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| User: "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" |
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20 Aug 2007 07:26:38 PM |
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@poster
what are the purposes of your posts here? The christian god is based upon
the bible. This is the alt.bible group :)
Why are you here if you don't want to talk about God with respect to the
bible?
sure, let's talk about the MASS-MURDERING CHILD-KILLING COLD-HEARTED *****
christian god in respect to the BIBLE,
Shall we compare body counts in the bible?
Let's see, the loving, caring christian god character drowned the whole
world, killed the firstborn of Egypt as well as its army after a devastating
series of plagues, ordered and personally participated in the slaughter of
countless
individuals during a genocidal rampage of his chosen people, fathered a
son specifically to be killed, and personally tortured a poor slob named
Job on a bet, and don't forget about demanding that Abraham MURDER his only
son just to satisfy his sick twisted need for an ego boost
The dreaded satan character did... Uhh... I don't know. I suppose he might
have killed someone at some point, but I'm not sure.
The satan character is a sweetheart compared to the evil monster character
called the christian god.
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| User: "Barry OGrady" |
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22 Aug 2007 12:06:50 AM |
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On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 20:26:38 -0400, "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" <killgod@killgod.com> wrote:
@poster
what are the purposes of your posts here? The christian god is based upon
the bible. This is the alt.bible group :)
Why are you here if you don't want to talk about God with respect to the
bible?
sure, let's talk about the MASS-MURDERING CHILD-KILLING COLD-HEARTED *****
christian god in respect to the BIBLE,
Shall we compare body counts in the bible?
Let's see, the loving, caring christian god character drowned the whole
world, killed the firstborn of Egypt as well as its army after a devastating
series of plagues, ordered and personally participated in the slaughter of
countless
individuals during a genocidal rampage of his chosen people, fathered a
son specifically to be killed, and personally tortured a poor slob named
Job on a bet, and don't forget about demanding that Abraham MURDER his only
son just to satisfy his sick twisted need for an ego boost
The dreaded satan character did... Uhh... I don't know. I suppose he might
have killed someone at some point, but I'm not sure.
The satan character is a sweetheart compared to the evil monster character
called the christian god.
According to the bible Satan's first act was to alert Adam and Eve
to God's lies and to allow humans to aquire free will.
After that God hid Satan so he could not defend himself.
Then God proceeded to slander Satan.
Barry
=====
Home page
http://members.iinet.net.au/~barry.og
I do not represent atheists or atheism
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| User: "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" |
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19 Aug 2007 09:40:02 AM |
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newsflash for christian retard.
the christian nuts think their sky pixie is the one true sky pixie
the muslim scum think their sky pixie is the one true sky pixie
the "insert name of horseshit religion here" think their sky pixie is the
one true sky pixie
every group thinks that "their god" is the "one true god" and that "your
god" is a false god
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| User: "Barry OGrady" |
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19 Aug 2007 10:06:11 PM |
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On 19 Aug 2007 22:01:57 +0200, apohran <none@email.com> wrote:
On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 12:01:57 +1000, Andrew W wrote:
The Christian God is a bit crazy.
One minute he wants to throw us all into hell because someone picked a fruit
off a tree, the next minute he sends his only son to save us (with a bloody
sacrifice no less). But he only wants some of us! (depending on which
Christian you talk to). Talk about Mr. 10%. This is not love.
If this isn't a sign of either multiple personality disorder or a horrible
misunderstanding of our Creator then I don't know what is.
This is not rational, loving or even sane.
We only hear from God's handlers so we have no way of knowing
what God wants.
All this wild and woolly information about God comes from the famous mass
produced Christian Bible.
Isn't it said by Christians that whatever the human heart desires is bad
because the human heart is inherently evil? Then what can we say about the
Bible since so many humans desire it so much?
What does it say about our creator?
Andrew,
I think you've misinterpreted (whether willingly or not) the christian
doctrine..
In John it is written "in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was
with God and the Word was God." Jesus was with God from the beginning, and
was meant to come and die to pay the ransom of sin from the beginning.
This was not some quick action God took on a whimsical thought, but a plan
to save humanity from our own evil.
So God always intended for us to suffer. That makes God even worse than
what Andrew suggested.
Humanity was doomed to evil not because a fruit was picked off of a tree,
but because man disobeyed God and thus brought sin upon ourselves.
Surely God could just change the design of humans. God would not
be so crass as to allow all of creation to suffer.
Moving along, He doesn't want only some of us - He wants all of us.
That's good news, because God always gets what he wants.
The problem is that not everyone wants Him. Would you not
agree to this?
God has only himself to blame if he is not loved.
I don't understand your conclusion that the bible must be
incorrect...nothing seems like it doesn't fit so far.........
The bible is not intended to be taken literally. Nowhere does the
bible refer to an actual existing God. No deity could be as
stupid as the one portrayed in the bible.
--
apohran
Barry
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| Title: Re: The Christian God is a bit crazy |
20 Aug 2007 02:31:37 PM |
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Some of us were raised with the impression of a stern God, strict,
moralistic, a bit severe to the wilfully defiant or depraved. The ones
who know better are worthy of many stripes.
However, some of my questing, seeking, yearning is simply my human
groping after friendship, acceptance, fulfillment. Hopefully god is
merciful, and his yoke is easy. Hopefully he has compassion, knows my
frame, that I be only human.
Also, religion aside, whether I understand the correct doctrine or
not, I just need human contact. I have the same red-blooded needs as
the ones that moralistic types look down on.
I love that old movie about the inner city principal:
Lean on me, when you're not strong
And I'll be your friend
I'll help you carry on
For it won't be long
'Til I'm gonna need
Somebody to lean on
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