The fear of grace... or... " I don't trust God's grace; I trust my decision making process "



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Topic: Religions > Bible
User: "old man joe"
Date: 12 Dec 2006 04:14:53 AM
Object: The fear of grace... or... " I don't trust God's grace; I trust my decision making process "
" who were born... not of the will of man, but of God "
Joh. 1:12,13
speaking out for the sovereignty of man, will worshipers have a
fear of grace... not trusting in Christ alone to save to the uttermost
but rather, to blend their own decision making process in with what
God gives as a free gift.
this way they are assured in their own mind that God is capable of
saving. they believe and preach He is impotent to save otherwise .
these fail to see that believing in Jesus Christ unto salvation is
the result of salvation and not the cause... as in Acts 13:48
" and as many as were appointed to eternal life, believed. "
" lest man should boast "
salvation is His doing. Eph. 1:3-14 " He chose us " and not
" we chose ourselves " as in will worship thinking.
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will worship forms the core of modern evangelism in those circles
where the sovereignty of man doctrines flourish. will worship is at
the core of Pentecostalism... that's why those who don't believe in
tongues, signs and wonders, falling over backwards, dreams and visions
and the like, get along so well with those who do.
the two walk together because they are agreed.
its plain to see that where man is the object of the boast, grace
has not taken place.
" there has also come to be at the present time a remnant
according to [God's] gracious choice.
But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works,
otherwise grace is no longer grace. " Ro.11:5,6
.

User: ""

Title: Re: The fear of grace... or... " I don't trust God's grace; I trust my decision making process " 12 Dec 2006 10:45:23 PM
Hey old man:
God can do all things! But is God for the show for man, or is God for
the heart of our personal being. Personally God has showed me quite a
few things and as Jesus said I would be amazed and I sure was. You know
God also gave us a brain and we must use it also...
Belly up old man and quit cutting down others and start to understand
God on a personal 1 to 1 relationship instead of worring about what you
thing is ignorance of others. Heal your own ignorance first.
Hope this helps!
old man joe wrote:

" who were born... not of the will of man, but of God "
Joh. 1:12,13

speaking out for the sovereignty of man, will worshipers have a
fear of grace... not trusting in Christ alone to save to the uttermost
but rather, to blend their own decision making process in with what
God gives as a free gift.

this way they are assured in their own mind that God is capable of
saving. they believe and preach He is impotent to save otherwise .

these fail to see that believing in Jesus Christ unto salvation is
the result of salvation and not the cause... as in Acts 13:48

" and as many as were appointed to eternal life, believed. "

" lest man should boast "

salvation is His doing. Eph. 1:3-14 " He chose us " and not
" we chose ourselves " as in will worship thinking.

***********************************************

will worship forms the core of modern evangelism in those circles
where the sovereignty of man doctrines flourish. will worship is at
the core of Pentecostalism... that's why those who don't believe in
tongues, signs and wonders, falling over backwards, dreams and visions
and the like, get along so well with those who do.

the two walk together because they are agreed.

its plain to see that where man is the object of the boast, grace
has not taken place.

" there has also come to be at the present time a remnant
according to [God's] gracious choice.

But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works,
otherwise grace is no longer grace. " Ro.11:5,6

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