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Religions > Bible |
| User: |
"Frank" |
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08 Jul 2007 09:13:26 PM |
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The Gospel Forever |
Why would anyone refuse to place ALL
their trust in Christ for salvation?
The reason is they just cannot believe
they can be saved without self help.
And so they are not saved at all.
Yet despite the Protestant rebellion
against the Protestant Reformation,
there is still a remnant that believes that
salvation is by faith alone in Christ alone.
The world has no problem with that
so long as the word ALONE is not there;
even the Catholic church professes that.
And on their websites,
most Protestant denominations
still profess faith in Christ alone.
The problem for them is by faith alone.
Most want to put in faith plus something,
such as repentance, commitment, etc.
There are very few of their websites
that actually state the core of the gospel,
the imputation of the righteousness of Christ,
that was so central in the Reformation.
And any plain statement that people
must avoid trust in all those things
that take trust away from Christ
is almost unheard of.
There are a few voices being raised
against the rampant departure
from the Reformation gospel,
but only a few.
And here on Christian newsgroups,
there are still a few standing up
for the gospel despite all ridicule.
The opposition will go after
its feelings, miracles, boasts,
and popular interpretations,
but let those who know the truth
stand for the gospel forever.
--
http://roines.home.mindspring.com
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| User: "randy" |
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| Title: Re: The Gospel Forever |
10 Jul 2007 01:31:38 AM |
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"Frank"
Why would anyone refuse to place ALL
their trust in Christ for salvation?...
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. "Faith alone" is
simply another way of decrying self-sufficient living. We
are not to live on our own, without the help of Christ. We
are not to live by knowledge alone, without the knowledge of
Christ. Christ is the source of aid God provided mankind, as
an alternative to the Law of Moses (which was only for
Jews). Christ became the source of obedience that God could
use to bless us and promise immortality to us.
So whatever we do, if we want immortality and everlasting
blessings, we must live in accord with the knowledge of
Christ. This is the human lifestyle that God wanted--not the
observance of feasts, and sabbaths, and various rituals of
cleansing and purification. But what God wanted was to
provide all these things for us by the sacrifice of Christ
so that we may be free to worship God, fully forgiven. In
Christ we can obey the morality that God has desired from
every nation. In Christ we can live a life of dependance
upon God, trusting that whatever we do we can have guidance
to do the right thing.
A self-sufficient life is what Christ died to save us from.
He died to keep us from depending on our own knowledge, away
from the knowledge of God. We can accept Christ's sacrifice
as the means of forgiveness for not living in accordance
with the knowledge of Christ. Then we can trust that by the
offering Christ made of his life we can have his life for
our own, so that we may live likewise as he did, in the
morality that God has always desired of man.
randy
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| User: "Frank" |
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| Title: Re: The Gospel Forever |
11 Jul 2007 10:13:30 PM |
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Very well put Randy: "we can have his life for our own".
Peace, Frank
"randy" <rkluth@wavecable.com> wrote in message
news:F9ydncWcaORWug7bnZ2dnUVZ_sqdnZ2d@wavecable.com...
"Frank"
Why would anyone refuse to place ALL
their trust in Christ for salvation?...
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. "Faith alone" is
simply another way of decrying self-sufficient living. We
are not to live on our own, without the help of Christ. We
are not to live by knowledge alone, without the knowledge of
Christ. Christ is the source of aid God provided mankind, as
an alternative to the Law of Moses (which was only for
Jews). Christ became the source of obedience that God could
use to bless us and promise immortality to us.
So whatever we do, if we want immortality and everlasting
blessings, we must live in accord with the knowledge of
Christ. This is the human lifestyle that God wanted--not the
observance of feasts, and sabbaths, and various rituals of
cleansing and purification. But what God wanted was to
provide all these things for us by the sacrifice of Christ
so that we may be free to worship God, fully forgiven. In
Christ we can obey the morality that God has desired from
every nation. In Christ we can live a life of dependance
upon God, trusting that whatever we do we can have guidance
to do the right thing.
A self-sufficient life is what Christ died to save us from.
He died to keep us from depending on our own knowledge, away
from the knowledge of God. We can accept Christ's sacrifice
as the means of forgiveness for not living in accordance
with the knowledge of Christ. Then we can trust that by the
offering Christ made of his life we can have his life for
our own, so that we may live likewise as he did, in the
morality that God has always desired of man.
randy
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| User: "randy" |
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| Title: Re: The Gospel Forever |
11 Jul 2007 10:51:14 PM |
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"Frank"
Very well put Randy: "we can have his life for our own".
Peace, Frank
Thanks brother! God bless,
randy
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| User: "Mark T moi@ere39" |
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| Title: Re: The Gospel Forever |
08 Jul 2007 10:01:13 PM |
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"Frank" <roines@mindspring.com> wroteth:
Why would anyone refuse to place ALL
their trust in Christ for salvation?
Because only GOD can save ......
--
"Look unto Me [YAHWEH], and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth; for I
[YAHWEH] am God, and there is none else [INCLUDING JESUS OF NAZARETH]."
Isaiah 45:21
--
DISTINGUISHING FEATURES OF A CHRISTUS OBNOXIUM
.... quoting from James Barr's book "Fundamentalism" on the three
distinguishing features of the Fundamentalist:
'Firstly, a fundamentalist has a very strong emphasis on the inerrancy of
the Bible, and believes in the absence from it of any sort of error.
Two, a strong hostility to modern theology and to the method, results and
implications of modern critical study of the Bible.
And three, an assurance that those who do not share their religious
viewpoint are not really true Christians at all.'
Peter Cameron "Heretic" (Doubleday; Sydney: 1994) p. 178
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http://fundamentalistfunhouse.blogspot.com/
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http://www.soundclick.com/marktindall
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| User: "Glenn" |
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| Title: Re: The Gospel Forever |
08 Jul 2007 10:38:00 PM |
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Mark T wrote:
"Frank" <roines@mindspring.com> wroteth:
Why would anyone refuse to place ALL
their trust in Christ for salvation?
Because only GOD can save ......
God the Father gave ALL Authority and ALL Power to His Son...
Or did you miss that minor details?
Ps 110:1-2, Mat 28:18, 1 Cor 15:24-28, John 1:1-- et al.
God the Father gave His Son Power to forgive sin,
Mat 9:6, Luke 5:24
God the Father gave (assigned/appointed) His Son to be our Messiah
(Christ)...
Glenn
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| User: "Aaron" |
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| Title: Re: The Gospel Forever |
09 Jul 2007 02:48:17 PM |
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On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 13:01:13 +1000, "Mark T" <moi@ere39> wrote:
"Frank" <roines@mindspring.com> wroteth:
Why would anyone refuse to place ALL
their trust in Christ for salvation?
Because only GOD can save ......
--
"Look unto Me [YAHWEH], and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth; for I
[YAHWEH] am God, and there is none else [INCLUDING JESUS OF NAZARETH]."
Isaiah 45:21
--
DISTINGUISHING FEATURES OF A CHRISTUS OBNOXIUM
... quoting from James Barr's book "Fundamentalism" on the three
distinguishing features of the Fundamentalist:
'Firstly, a fundamentalist has a very strong emphasis on the inerrancy of
the Bible, and believes in the absence from it of any sort of error.
Since Christian Fundamentalists never read any of the Bible, this one
is laughable even by those who believe that the Bible is true. the
Bible is written in hebrew; anything else is just a study guide.
Two, a strong hostility to modern theology and to the method, results and
implications of modern critical study of the Bible.
The term "Modern Theology" is fairly vague.
Some "modern Theology is little more than corruption justified by
misuse of bad translations of the Bible. Some "modern Theology" is
the original theology taught in the Hebrew text, but mistranslated in
the KJV and other English translations. Some of modern critical study
of the Bible assume that certain Christian myths are true and then
applies these as "given statements" in their reasoning, while
rejecting other Christian myths.
And three, an assurance that those who do not share their religious
viewpoint are not really true Christians at all.'
Is being "christian" such a great thing?
By today's definition of the word, Messiah never met a "Christian."
Peter Cameron "Heretic" (Doubleday; Sydney: 1994) p. 178
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| User: "Provoker" |
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| Title: Re: The Gospel Forever |
09 Jul 2007 10:30:39 AM |
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Hello Frank:
The Protestant reformation did not address the fundamental errors
resulting from the Nicean council of 325AD, but has unwittingly
perpetuated them. I'm afraid that Protestantism has no more truth
than Catholicism.
According to Paul, the gospel was first preached to, and believed by,
Abraham, making him the father of all who believe the gospel. If you
read the gospel as God preached it to Abraham, you will discover that
Protestants also preach a reworded gospel:-)
On Jul 8, 10:13 pm, "Frank" <roi...@mindspring.com< wrote:
< Why would anyone refuse to place ALL
< their trust in Christ for salvation?
< The reason is they just cannot believe
< they can be saved without self help.
< And so they are not saved at all.
< Yet despite the Protestant rebellion
< against the Protestant Reformation,
< there is still a remnant that believes that
< salvation is by faith alone in Christ alone.
< The world has no problem with that
< so long as the word ALONE is not there;
< even the Catholic church professes that.
< And on their websites,
< most Protestant denominations
< still profess faith in Christ alone.
< The problem for them is by faith alone.
< Most want to put in faith plus something,
< such as repentance, commitment, etc.
< There are very few of their websites
< that actually state the core of the gospel,
< the imputation of the righteousness of Christ,
< that was so central in the Reformation.
< And any plain statement that people
< must avoid trust in all those things
< that take trust away from Christ
< is almost unheard of.
< There are a few voices being raised
< against the rampant departure
< from the Reformation gospel,
< but only a few.
< And here on Christian newsgroups,
< there are still a few standing up
< for the gospel despite all ridicule.
< The opposition will go after
< its feelings, miracles, boasts,
< and popular interpretations,
< but let those who know the truth
< stand for the gospel forever.
<
< --http://roines.home.mindspring.com
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| User: "Emma" |
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| Title: Re: The Gospel Forever |
09 Jul 2007 05:44:46 AM |
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In article <aRgki.5046$rR.2271@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>, Frank says...
Why would anyone refuse to place ALL
their trust in Christ for salvation?
The reason is they just cannot believe
they can be saved without self help.
And so they are not saved at all.
Are you taking God's place again, Frank?
Yet despite the Protestant rebellion
against the Protestant Reformation,
there is still a remnant that believes that
salvation is by faith alone in Christ alone.
The world has no problem with that
so long as the word ALONE is not there;
even the Catholic church professes that.
And on their websites,
You're reading Catholic websites, Frank?
I think that's good, because it will change
your mind on a lot of things, I'm sure.
most Protestant denominations
still profess faith in Christ alone.
The problem for them is by faith alone.
Most want to put in faith plus something,
such as repentance, commitment, etc.
That's because the definition of
"faith" includes repentance, commitment etc.
If you were to expand on "faith in Christ"
and how to become a Christian, then you would
find yourself using the same terms.
Instead of which, you seem to think that the evidence
of salvation is believing that some words
are now taboo: eg. "repentance", "commitment".
And the first one to utter those words is
out/not saved/damned.
There are very few of their websites
that actually state the core of the gospel,
the imputation of the righteousness of Christ,
that was so central in the Reformation.
But Catholics are trying to follow Jesus rather
than Martin Luther and the Reformation.
Actually, so are most Protestants.
--
***Emma***
http://www.findmadeleine.com/
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| User: " ##TBC*" |
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| Title: Re: The Gospel Forever |
09 Jul 2007 07:52:05 AM |
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"Emma" <emma@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:f6t3iu02ilm@drn.newsguy.com...
In article <aRgki.5046$rR.2271@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>, Frank
says...
Why would anyone refuse to place ALL
their trust in Christ for salvation?
The reason is they just cannot believe
they can be saved without self help.
And so they are not saved at all.
Are you taking God's place again, Frank?
Yet despite the Protestant rebellion
against the Protestant Reformation,
there is still a remnant that believes that
salvation is by faith alone in Christ alone.
The world has no problem with that
so long as the word ALONE is not there;
even the Catholic church professes that.
And on their websites,
You're reading Catholic websites, Frank?
I think that's good, because it will change
your mind on a lot of things, I'm sure.
most Protestant denominations
still profess faith in Christ alone.
The problem for them is by faith alone.
Most want to put in faith plus something,
such as repentance, commitment, etc.
That's because the definition of
"faith" includes repentance, commitment etc.
If you were to expand on "faith in Christ"
and how to become a Christian, then you would
find yourself using the same terms.
Instead of which, you seem to think that the evidence
of salvation is believing that some words
are now taboo: eg. "repentance", "commitment".
And the first one to utter those words is
out/not saved/damned.
There are very few of their websites
that actually state the core of the gospel,
the imputation of the righteousness of Christ,
that was so central in the Reformation.
But Catholics are trying to follow Jesus rather
than Martin Luther and the Reformation.
Actually, so are most Protestants.
--
***Emma***
http://www.findmadeleine.com/
The "Good News" is the Gospel of Peace. (Not Division) From what I read on
Frank's website it would seem to me that he was deceived before he was saved
but now is some what confused, to say the least. Thank you Emma for your
thoughts and comments.
##TBC*
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| User: " ::: vera :::" |
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| Title: Re: The Gospel Forever |
09 Jul 2007 09:33:16 AM |
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My point of view:
TBC is a false prophet.
Emma, please be careful. This guy is crazy, and has been to a mental
hospital before. Look what he thinks is the Holy Spirit:
I prayed, Father renew the anointing on me, and fell asleep. The next
morning as I was heading out the door to go to church something
happened. I grabbed the door knob to open the door leading outside
and was suddenly shocked by what felt like a direct current of
electricity. I jumped but and looked at my right hand, it was very
red and seemed like it was vibrating. I wondered how electric current
could get into that door knob but then realized that my left hand was
affected the same as my right. Suddenly I remembered the prayed I had
prayed as I was falling asleep.
Wow, had Jesus been holding the other side of that door knob?
Soggy
Mr. Annointed - TBC is Soggy (in all the possible colours)
He also curses people. He wrote a few days ago (to those who told him it
was the static electricity):
In news:21fec$468e46ef$d066ef45$18603@FUSE.NET,
Old Soggy Pepper (And his little brown dog) <Woxahja@poport.com> typed:
Blaspheming the Holy Ghost is equating the power of the Spirit of God
with the devil and or speaking against the person of the Holy Spirit.
This is unforgivable sin and if anyone commits this kind of sin they
go to hell forever and may I tell you it happens very quickly. Since
Satan desires to take all to Hell, he doesn't wait and the person
usually die some horrific death in a matter of days, sometimes hours.
The bible tells us that God wants us all to be saved therefore the
thought of someone we know committing this kind of sin should scare
us greatly, shaking us to our very core.
I regret that I told you people anything at all about the things of
the Spirit and now I'm worried if some of you will survive.
Point taken.
I hope you are doing fine. And better watch out to do what TBC says,
otherwise he might come up with trash like the above.
Peace,
::
::: vera :::
::
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() ... who died with Christ
|| () into a new and eternal life.
|| ()
||
In news:df50c$46923050$d066ef45$7152@FUSE.NET,
##TBC* <NosiMail@Sorry.com> typed:
"Emma" <emma@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:f6t3iu02ilm@drn.newsguy.com...
In article <aRgki.5046$rR.2271@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
Frank says...
Why would anyone refuse to place ALL
their trust in Christ for salvation?
The reason is they just cannot believe
they can be saved without self help.
And so they are not saved at all.
Are you taking God's place again, Frank?
Yet despite the Protestant rebellion
against the Protestant Reformation,
there is still a remnant that believes that
salvation is by faith alone in Christ alone.
The world has no problem with that
so long as the word ALONE is not there;
even the Catholic church professes that.
And on their websites,
You're reading Catholic websites, Frank?
I think that's good, because it will change
your mind on a lot of things, I'm sure.
most Protestant denominations
still profess faith in Christ alone.
The problem for them is by faith alone.
Most want to put in faith plus something,
such as repentance, commitment, etc.
That's because the definition of
"faith" includes repentance, commitment etc.
If you were to expand on "faith in Christ"
and how to become a Christian, then you would
find yourself using the same terms.
Instead of which, you seem to think that the evidence
of salvation is believing that some words
are now taboo: eg. "repentance", "commitment".
And the first one to utter those words is
out/not saved/damned.
There are very few of their websites
that actually state the core of the gospel,
the imputation of the righteousness of Christ,
that was so central in the Reformation.
But Catholics are trying to follow Jesus rather
than Martin Luther and the Reformation.
Actually, so are most Protestants.
--
***Emma***
http://www.findmadeleine.com/
The "Good News" is the Gospel of Peace. (Not Division) From what I
read on Frank's website it would seem to me that he was deceived
before he was saved but now is some what confused, to say the least.
Thank you Emma for your thoughts and comments.
##TBC*
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| User: "Diana" |
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| Title: Re: The Gospel Forever |
09 Jul 2007 12:48:27 PM |
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If I am not mistaken Emma may have said something about her age before in
here so what makes you, Vera, Think Emma can not decide who is a Christian
and who is false? I think Emma has a good mind of her own and can make it up
all her own without your lies to sway her.
" ::: vera :::" <veralein@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:5fevt3F3bfj1gU1@mid.individual.net...
My point of view:
TBC is a false prophet.
Emma, please be careful. This guy is crazy, and has been to a mental
hospital before. Look what he thinks is the Holy Spirit:
I prayed, Father renew the anointing on me, and fell asleep. The next
morning as I was heading out the door to go to church something
happened. I grabbed the door knob to open the door leading outside
and was suddenly shocked by what felt like a direct current of
electricity. I jumped but and looked at my right hand, it was very
red and seemed like it was vibrating. I wondered how electric current
could get into that door knob but then realized that my left hand was
affected the same as my right. Suddenly I remembered the prayed I had
prayed as I was falling asleep.
Wow, had Jesus been holding the other side of that door knob?
Soggy
Mr. Annointed - TBC is Soggy (in all the possible colours)
He also curses people. He wrote a few days ago (to those who told him it
was the static electricity):
In news:21fec$468e46ef$d066ef45$18603@FUSE.NET,
Old Soggy Pepper (And his little brown dog) <Woxahja@poport.com> typed:
Blaspheming the Holy Ghost is equating the power of the Spirit of God
with the devil and or speaking against the person of the Holy Spirit.
This is unforgivable sin and if anyone commits this kind of sin they
go to hell forever and may I tell you it happens very quickly. Since
Satan desires to take all to Hell, he doesn't wait and the person
usually die some horrific death in a matter of days, sometimes hours.
The bible tells us that God wants us all to be saved therefore the
thought of someone we know committing this kind of sin should scare
us greatly, shaking us to our very core.
I regret that I told you people anything at all about the things of
the Spirit and now I'm worried if some of you will survive.
Point taken.
I hope you are doing fine. And better watch out to do what TBC says,
otherwise he might come up with trash like the above.
Peace,
::
::: vera :::
::
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() ... who died with Christ
|| () into a new and eternal life.
|| ()
||
In news:df50c$46923050$d066ef45$7152@FUSE.NET,
##TBC* <NosiMail@Sorry.com> typed:
"Emma" <emma@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:f6t3iu02ilm@drn.newsguy.com...
In article <aRgki.5046$rR.2271@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
Frank says...
Why would anyone refuse to place ALL
their trust in Christ for salvation?
The reason is they just cannot believe
they can be saved without self help.
And so they are not saved at all.
Are you taking God's place again, Frank?
Yet despite the Protestant rebellion
against the Protestant Reformation,
there is still a remnant that believes that
salvation is by faith alone in Christ alone.
The world has no problem with that
so long as the word ALONE is not there;
even the Catholic church professes that.
And on their websites,
You're reading Catholic websites, Frank?
I think that's good, because it will change
your mind on a lot of things, I'm sure.
most Protestant denominations
still profess faith in Christ alone.
The problem for them is by faith alone.
Most want to put in faith plus something,
such as repentance, commitment, etc.
That's because the definition of
"faith" includes repentance, commitment etc.
If you were to expand on "faith in Christ"
and how to become a Christian, then you would
find yourself using the same terms.
Instead of which, you seem to think that the evidence
of salvation is believing that some words
are now taboo: eg. "repentance", "commitment".
And the first one to utter those words is
out/not saved/damned.
There are very few of their websites
that actually state the core of the gospel,
the imputation of the righteousness of Christ,
that was so central in the Reformation.
But Catholics are trying to follow Jesus rather
than Martin Luther and the Reformation.
Actually, so are most Protestants.
--
***Emma***
http://www.findmadeleine.com/
The "Good News" is the Gospel of Peace. (Not Division) From what I
read on Frank's website it would seem to me that he was deceived
before he was saved but now is some what confused, to say the least.
Thank you Emma for your thoughts and comments.
##TBC*
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| User: " ::: vera :::" |
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| Title: Re: The Gospel Forever |
09 Jul 2007 02:50:22 PM |
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Diana - lie no. 25
In news:46927543$0$30610$4c368faf@roadrunner.com,
Diana <White.Trailer.Trash.*****@Imbecile.Imbred> typed:
If I am not mistaken Emma may have said something about her age
before in here so what makes you, Vera, Think Emma can not decide who
is a Christian and who is false? I think Emma has a good mind of her
own and can make it up all her own without your lies to sway her.
Diana - lie no. 25
Fact is that Vera did not lie, and that Vera gave proof for what she
wrote. See below.
" ::: vera :::" <veralein@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:5fevt3F3bfj1gU1@mid.individual.net...
My point of view:
TBC is a false prophet.
Emma, please be careful. This guy is crazy, and has been to a mental
hospital before. Look what he thinks is the Holy Spirit:
[snip]
Mr. Annointed - TBC is Soggy (in all the possible colours)
He also curses people. He wrote a few days ago (to those who told
him it was the static electricity):
In news:21fec$468e46ef$d066ef45$18603@FUSE.NET,
Old Soggy Pepper (And his little brown dog) <Woxahja@poport.com>
typed:
Blaspheming the Holy Ghost is equating the power of the Spirit of
God with the devil and or speaking against the person of the Holy
Spirit. This is unforgivable sin and if anyone commits this kind of
sin they
go to hell forever and may I tell you it happens very quickly. Since
Satan desires to take all to Hell, he doesn't wait and the person
usually die some horrific death in a matter of days, sometimes
hours. The bible tells us that God wants us all to be saved
therefore the
thought of someone we know committing this kind of sin should scare
us greatly, shaking us to our very core.
I regret that I told you people anything at all about the things of
the Spirit and now I'm worried if some of you will survive.
Point taken.
I hope you are doing fine. And better watch out to do what TBC says,
otherwise he might come up with trash like the above.
Peace,
::
::: vera :::
::
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() ... who died with Christ
|| () into a new and eternal life.
|| ()
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[snip]
--
Now I beg you, brothers, look out for those who are causing the
divisions and occasions of stumbling, contrary to the doctrine which you
learned, and turn away from them. (Romans 16:17 WEB)
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| User: "Diana" |
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| Title: Re: The Gospel Forever |
09 Jul 2007 03:33:33 PM |
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" ::: vera :::" <veralein@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:5ffhrvF3c0mp8U1@mid.individual.net...
Have a "Good" day in Jesus Christ Vera.
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| User: "Meteorite Debris" |
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| Title: Re: The Gospel Forever |
09 Jul 2007 01:00:19 AM |
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Last time that great scribe Frank <roines@mindspring.com> chipped away
at his/her stone these gems of wisdom for posterity ...
Why would anyone refuse to place ALL
their trust in Christ for salvation?
Because they like the idea of a make believe friend in the sky. Myself,
I grew up and stop believing in such superstitious nonsense.
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apatriot #1, atheist #1417,
Chief EAC prophet
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2009
Apatriotism Yahoo Group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/apatriotism
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make
you commit atrocities." - Voltaire
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| User: "Aaron" |
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| Title: Re: The Gospel Forever |
09 Jul 2007 02:40:19 PM |
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On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 02:13:26 GMT, "Frank" <roines@mindspring.com>
wrote:
Why would anyone refuse to place ALL
their trust in Christ for salvation?
Because Christians fictionalize "Mr Jesus Christ" to the point where
their fictional character does not resemble the biblical Messiah, Rebe
Yshu`a Ben Yosef. Most Christians commit horrible sins and claim that
they are worshipping "christ." The Messiah described in the Bible
commanded His follower to pray and worship to HaShem only. He
reaffirmed the Commandment prohibiting Easter, Christmas, communion,
sunday worship, the rosary, Lent, the use of the cross as a "holy"
symbol, and many other Christian practices. He reaffirmed the
prohibition against necromancy, but most Christians commit necromancy
(speaking to or praying to the dead). Christians make a horrible
example then claim that they are "christ-like." This "christ" that
they speak of must NOT be the Messiah described in the Bible! Also,
blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is the most popular sin in
Christianity; it is even a requirement of mainstream Christianity.
The Christian Binble renounces Christianity, and forbids Christian
worship practices. Why would any non-Christian convert to
Christianity?
I am not sure why you posted this to alt.messianic, a Jewish NG.
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| User: "cindys" |
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| Title: Re: The Gospel Forever |
09 Jul 2007 06:15:20 PM |
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"Aaron" <anon@home.net> wrote in message
news:g535939ujocuj49sviaptkgnocrthabb4f@4ax.com...
I am not sure why you posted this to alt.messianic, a Jewish NG.
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Alt.messianic is a Christian newsgroup. It was originally started as a place
for Jews and Christians to debate about Jesus. Now, there are virtually zero
Jews on the group, and it's not any different from any other Christian
newsgroup. "Messianic Judaism" is a synonym for Christianity.
Best regards,
---Cindy S .
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| User: "Aaron" |
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| Title: Re: The Gospel Forever |
11 Jul 2007 10:40:24 AM |
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On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 19:15:20 -0400, "cindys" <cstein1@rochester.rr.com>
wrote:
"Aaron" <anon@home.net> wrote in message
news:g535939ujocuj49sviaptkgnocrthabb4f@4ax.com...
I am not sure why you posted this to alt.messianic, a Jewish NG.
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Alt.messianic is a Christian newsgroup. It was originally started as a place
for Jews and Christians to debate about Jesus. Now, there are virtually zero
Jews on the group, and it's not any different from any other Christian
newsgroup. "Messianic Judaism" is a synonym for Christianity.
Best regards,
Cindy, since you don't know much aboiut Judaism and nothing about
Messianic Judaism, your opinion is worthless.
You come to alt.messianic to troll.
You do this because you fear that Messianic Judism is TRUE Judaism.
If you actually were confident that Messianic judaism was a false
religion like Christianity, you would not bother attacking people who
actually read the Torah and saw that the Torah says that Messiah MUST
have come by 4 BCE, the year Yshu`a was born. I usually don't bother
to debate people who troll alt.messianic who don't believe that Yshu`a
is the Messiah, and you are not important enough to make an exception.
You may read the Primary Prophecy of Messiah (if you can, use the
Hebrew instead of a translation), and make up your own mind. If you
make the wrong choice that is your fault and your business.
---Cindy S .
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