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The Great White Throne Judgment of God For Unbelievers
11 Then I saw a great white ?a?throne and Him who sat upon it,
from whose ?1?presence ?b?earth and heaven fled away, and ?c?no place
was found for them.
12 And I saw the dead, the ?a?great and the small, standing
before the throne, and ?1??b?books were opened; and another ?2?book
was opened, which is ?c?the book of life; and the dead ?a?were judged
from the things which were written in the ?1?books, ?d?according to
their deeds.
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it, and ?a?death
and Hades ?b?gave up the dead which were in them; and they were
judged, every one of them ?c?according to their deeds.
14 Then ?a?death and Hades were thrown into ?b?the lake of fire.
This is the ?c?second death, the lake of fire.
15 And if ?1?anyone's name was not found written in ?a?the book
of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
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The Great White Throne is what men mistakenly call the general judgment.
It is general only in the sense that all the lost of all ages are raised
to be judged here. All who are saved have been raised in the first
resurrection. Even the tribulation saints had part in the first
resurrection. This is the second resurrection in which the lost are raised
to be given an equitable, fair, and just evaluation of their works in
respect to their salvation.
A man on his deathbed said to me, "Preacher, you just don't need to talk
to me about the future. I'll take my chances. I believe God is going to be
just and righteous and let me present my works."
I told him, "You are right. He is just and righteous, and He will let you
present your works. That is what He says He is going to do. But I have
news for you: At that judgment nobody is saved, because you cannot be
saved by your works. When you stand in the white light of the righteous
presence of God, your little works will seem so puny that they won't
amount to anything at all."
The other day our little grandson brought to his grandmother some flowers
that he had picked. I want to tell you, they were a sad looking bunch of
flowers. With great pride he gave them to his grandmother, and his
grandmother patted him on the head and thanked him for the lovely flowers.
As I looked at that scene, I could not help but smile, but I also
immediately recognized how solemn it is going to be when a lot of these
goody-goody boys stand with their little, bitty bouquets in the presence
of a Christ whom they have rejected. They expect that He will be like a
grandmother who will pat them on the head and say, "What a smart boy you
were!" My friend, this is solemn, and this is serious. You need Him as
Savior in order to stand in His presence; you need to be clothed with the
righteousness of Christ. Don't you know that without this we are sinners
and we are lost?
We like to compare ourselves with other people: "I'm as good as the
Joneses down the street." Sure you are, but you ought to know about the
Joneses! It was Samuel Johnson who said, "Every man knows that of himself
which he dares not tell his dearest friend." You know yourself, don't you?
You know things that you have covered up and smothered that you would not
reveal for anything in the world. The Lord Jesus is going to bring them
out at this judgment; while you are presenting your little bouquet, He is
going to tell you about yourself. My friend, you need a Savior today.
This is the Great White Throne, and the holiness of this throne is
revealed in the reaction of heaven and earth to it: "from whose face the
earth and the heaven fled away." Of this, John F. Walvoord, in his book
The Revelation of Jesus Christ, comments:
The most natural interpretation of the fact that earth and heaven flee
away is that the present earth and heaven are destroyed and will be
replaced by the new heaven and new earth. This is also confirmed by the
additional statement in 21:1 where John sees a new heaven and a new earth
replacing the first heaven and the first earth which have passed away.
The One seated on the throne is the Lord Jesus Christ: "For the Father
judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son.. For as the
Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in
himself; And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he
is the Son of man. Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the
which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, And shall come
forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they
that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation" (John 5:22,
26-29).
What is the work of God? It is to ". believe on him whom he hath sent"
(John 6:29). Those who have done good are they who have accepted Christ,
and they come forth unto the resurrection of life-that is the first
resurrection. They who have done evil come forth unto the resurrection of
damnation and condemnation-that is the Great White Throne judgment.
[2]
Will believers stand before God at this White Throne Judgment?
No.
If you're a Christian, this judgment doesn't apply to you, for you were
judged when Christ was on another throne-not a white one, but a wooden
one; when He wore a crown not of gold, but of thorns as He died to cleanse
you from every sin you ever have or ever will commit.
[3]
If you're a Christian, your name is written in the Book of Life. The names
of those who said, "I didn't buy into that Christian stuff they were
always trying to cram down my throat," or, "I needed my space," or, "I had
to explore various aspects of spirituality," aren't.
"But I lived a pretty good life," they'll protest.
Yet the books wherein are recorded the reasons for everything they ever
did will prove otherwise..
"I was an outstanding member of Rotary."
Yes-but the books indicate it was to make some business contacts.
"Oh, but I gave blood."
Perhaps-but the books indicate you were paid twenty-five dollars in
return.
"But I saved the whales, marched for peace, built homes for the homeless."
All well and good-but you did so to hear the applause of men.
You see, God made us in such a way that we are spared from remembering the
sins we have committed. He let us remember enough sin to make us aware of
our need for salvation-but not every motive, every word of gossip, every
cutting comment, every angry feeling. When the books are opened, the utter
weight of all one's sin will come to light. God sends no one to hell. By
the time Volume 167 of one's sins is opened, it's as if he will cry,
"Depart from me for I am a sinful man," and will send himself to the lake
of fire.
That's why I am so glad I'm saved. The Bible says the "handwriting of
ordinances that was against us"-all of our mistakes, sins, and
failures-were blotted out by the blood of Jesus Christ (Colossians 2:14).
In other words, the pages and pages containing my sin are all illegible
because they're covered with the red blood of Jesus.
[4]
Maybe you're saying, "What will happen at the end of the world is all very
interesting, but the bottom line is that I'm a believer, and I know I'm
going to heaven. I'm far more concerned about the problems facing me right
now."
So was John. The Book of Revelation was written specifically to a group of
people facing far greater problems than you'll ever face. And the message
it contains is as vital for us as it was to them: It's not over yet. Satan
and death itself will be cast into the lake of fire. They lose. And all
who embrace what Jesus did on the Cross when He plunged into hell on their
behalf-all whose names are written in the Book of Life-win.
[5]
20:11 Next we are introduced to the great white throne judgment. It is
great because of the issues involved and white because of the perfection
and purity of the decisions handed down. The Lord Jesus is sitting as
Judge (John 5:22, 27). The expression from whose face the earth and the
heaven fled away indicates that this judgment takes place in eternity,
after the destruction of the present creation (2 Pet. 3:10).
20:12 The dead, small and great, stand before God. These are the
unbelievers of all ages. Two sets of books are opened. The Book of Life
contains the names of all who have been redeemed by the precious blood of
Christ. The other books contain a detailed record of the works of the
unsaved. No one who appears at this judgment is registered in the Book of
Life. The fact that his name is missing condemns him, but the record of
his evil works determines the degree of his punishment.
20:13 The sea will yield up the bodies of those who have been buried in
it. The graves, here represented by Death, will deliver up the bodies of
all the unsaved who have been interred. Hades will give up the souls of
all who died in unbelief. The bodies and souls will be reunited to stand
before the Judge.
Just as there will be degrees of reward in heaven, so there will be
degrees of punishment in hell. This will be based on their works.
20:14 When we read that Death and Hades are cast into the lake of fire, it
means the complete persons: spirit, soul, and body. The text explains that
this is the second death, and the ?NKJV? margin adds, the lake of fire.
There is a difference between Hades and hell. For the unconverted who have
died, Hades is a disembodied state of conscious punishment. It is a sort
of holding tank, an intermediate condition where they await the Judgment
of the Great White Throne.
For believers who have died, Hades is a state of disembodied blessedness
in heaven, awaiting the resurrection and glorification of the body. When
Jesus died, He went to Paradise (Luke 23:43), which Paul equates with the
third heaven (2 Cor. 12:2, 4), the dwelling place of God. In Acts 2:27 the
Lord's disembodied state is called Hades. God did not leave His soul in
Hades, but clothed it with a glorified body.
Hell is the final prison of the wicked dead. It is the same as the lake of
fire, Gehenna, and the second death.
20:15 The deciding factor at this judgment is whether one's name is
written in the Book of Life. Actually if a person's name had been
inscribed there, he would have already been a part of the first
resurrection. So this verse applies only to those who stand before the
Great WhiteThrone.
[6]
Yes, my friend, you will be able to get a fair trial there. Your life is
on tape, and Christ happens to have the tape. When He plays it back, you
will be able to listen to it, and it is not going to sound good to you, by
any means. Are you willing to stand before God and have Him play the tape
of your life? I think He will have it on a television screen so that you
can watch it, too. Do you think your life can stand the test? I do not
know about you, but I could not make it. Thank God for His grace-"For by
grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the
gift of God" (Eph. 2:8).
The dead are classified as the small and the great. They are all lost, for
evidently none have their names written in the Book of Life. They had
never turned to God for salvation. The Lord Jesus said that in His
generation ". ye will not come to me, that ye might have life" (John
5:40). These folk standing before His throne had not come.
These are books which record the works of all individuals. God keeps the
tapes, and He will play them at the right time. There will be a lot of
politicians who will have their tapes played in that day, and there will
be a lot of public figures-even preachers-who will have their tapes played
in that day, and they are not going to be happy about it. If you are
saved, you are not going to stand before this judgment. Your works are to
be judged as a child of God at the judgment seat of Christ, which will be
for the purpose of rewards (see 2 Cor. 5:10). The Great White Throne
judgment is the judgment of the lost. Multitudes want to be judged
according to their works. This is their opportunity. The judgment is just,
but no one is saved by works.
"And the sea gave up the dead that were in it." Multitudes who have gone
to a watery grave in which the chemicals of their bodies have been
dissolved in the waters of the sea will be raised. God will have no
problem with this. After all, they are only atoms. He just has to put them
together again. He did it once; He can do it again. The graves on earth
will give up their bodies; and hades, the place where the spirits of the
lost go, will disgorge for this judgment.
[7]
And death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second
death even the lake of fire. And if any were not found written in the book
of life, he was cast into the lake of fire.
You will notice that in my translation I have changed "death and hell were
cast into the lake of fire" to "death and Hades were cast into the lake of
fire." Sheol or hades (translated hell in the New Testament) is the place
of the unseen dead and is divided into two compartments: paradise and the
place of torment (see Luke 16:19-31). Paradise was emptied when Christ
took the Old Testament believers with Him at His ascension. "Wherefore he
saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave
gifts unto men. (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also
descended first into the lower parts of the earth? He that descended is
the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill
all things)" (Eph. 4:8-10). Christ did two things: He gave gifts to men
down here, but He also took with Him to heaven those Old Testament saints
who had died and were in the place called paradise. But the place of
torment will deliver up the lost at the judgment at the Great White
Throne. All who stand at this judgment are lost, and we are told that they
are cast into the lake of fire, which is the second death. The Lord also
called it "outer darkness." We believe that this is symbolic of something
worse than literal fire or outer darkness. It is eternal separation from
God, for death means separation.
[8]
"Death," the great final enemy of man, is finally removed from the scene.
No longer will it be said, "In Adam all die" (see 1 Cor. 15:22). Death is
personified in this case, for it is man's great enemy. In the Old
Testament we read: "I will ransom them from the power of the grave; I will
redeem them from death: O death, I will be thy plagues; O grave, I will be
thy destruction: repentance shall be hid from mine eyes" (Hos. 13:14).
And Paul writes: "The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.. O
death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?" (1 Cor. 15:26,
55).
"Hades," the prison of lost souls, is likewise cast into the lake of fire.
The lost are no longer in hades but in the lake of fire. This is where
Satan, the wild Beast, the False Prophet, and their minions were
consigned. If man will not accept the life of God, he must accept the only
other alternative: eternal association with Satan. God never created man
to be put in this place, but there is no other place for him. Hell was
created for the Devil and his angels. I take it that it is a place where
God never goes. The second death means eternal and absolute separation
from God.
[9]
EMPTY WORDS
The false teachers talked a lot but had no substance; their words were
lies. Life is filled with promises. We build families on promises, spend
careers on promises, and trust God himself for the great promise of a
joyous future. If promises fail, life collapses.
Do your best to make good on your word. So many people depend on your
integrity. So much happiness rides on your honesty. Don't promise what you
can't or won't deliver, as did the false teachers. Their lives were wasted
because their promises were empty.
[10]
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a Rev 4:2 1 Lit face b Rev 6:14; 21:1 c Dan 2:35; Rev 12:8 a Rev 11:18 1
Or scrolls b Dan 7:10 2 Or scroll c Rev 3:5; 20:15 d Matt 16:27; Rev 2:23;
20:13 a 1 Cor 15:26; Rev 1:18; 6:8; 21:4 b Is 26:19 c Matt 16:27; Rev
2:23; 20:12 a 1 Cor 15:26; Rev 1:18; 6:8; 21:4 b Rev 19:20; 20:10, 15 c
Rev 20:6 1 Lit anyone was a Rev 3:5; 20:12
[1]New American Standard Bible : 1995 update. 1995 (Re 20:11-15). LaHabra,
CA: The Lockman Foundation.
[2]McGee, J. V. (1997, c1981). Thru the Bible commentary. Based on the
Thru the Bible radio program. (electronic ed.) (5:1059-1060). Nashville:
Thomas Nelson.
[3]Courson, J. (2003). Jon Courson's Application Commentary (1784).
Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson.
[4]Courson, J. (2003). Jon Courson's Application Commentary (1784).
Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson.
[5]Courson, J. (2003). Jon Courson's Application Commentary (1784).
Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson.
NKJV New King James Version
[6]MacDonald, W., & Farstad, A. (1997, c1995). Believer's Bible Commentary
: Old and New Testaments (Re 20:11). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.
[7]McGee, J. V. (1997, c1981). Thru the Bible commentary. Based on the
Thru the Bible radio program. (electronic ed.) (5:1060-1061). Nashville:
Thomas Nelson.
[8]McGee, J. V. (1997, c1981). Thru the Bible commentary. Based on the
Thru the Bible radio program. (electronic ed.) (5:1061). Nashville: Thomas
Nelson.
[9]McGee, J. V. (1997, c1981). Thru the Bible commentary. Based on the
Thru the Bible radio program. (electronic ed.) (5:1061-1062). Nashville:
Thomas Nelson.
[10]Barton, B. B. (1995). 1 Peter, 2 Peter, Jude. Life application Bible
commentary (253). Wheaton, Ill.: Tyndale House Pub.
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The Great White Throne Judgment of God For Unbelievers
You need to read the book.
John 5:29
And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of
life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of judgment.
There are 2 resurrections, one at His coming and another after 1000 years,
and it is ones not found in the book of life who are cast into the lake of
fire at the white throne judgment (Rev 20:15).
The church, resurrected at His coming judges the rest: "Do ye not know that
the saints shall judge the world?" (1 Cor. 6:2): "And I saw thrones, and
they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of
them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God,
and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had
received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived
and reigned with Christ a thousand years (but the rest of the dead lived not
again until the thousand years were finished). This is the first
resurrection" (Rev. 20:4-5).
When you add the folks saved after 1000 years to the few chosen saved at the
beginning, you get an innumerable multitude (Rev 7:9)
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After all, it is The Great White Throne Judgment, not The Great White Throne
Charade.
His,
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Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as
a little child, he shall not enter therein. (Mark 10:15)
<)))))><
Preparing the way of the Lord.
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On Jun 19, 6:19 pm, "Fred A Stover" <fredsto...@email.com> wrote:
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The Great White Throne Judgment of God For Unbelievers
You need to read the book.
Did that. Read it through, on a yearly basis, between age 8 and age
22. I read it in German, Greek, and Spanish, in addition reading it
in English. Have read it in several different English translations.
And after having read it all those times, I can truthfully say that I
think it's nothing but a collection of Bronze and Iron Age myths, and
pretty nasty ones at that.
Care to comment?
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes at dakotacom dot net
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On Jun 19, 6:19 pm, "Fred A Stover" <fredsto...@email.com> wrote:
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The Great White Throne Judgment of God For Unbelievers
You need to read the book.
Did that. Read it through, on a yearly basis, between age 8 and age
22. I read it in German, Greek, and Spanish, in addition reading it
in English. Have read it in several different English translations.
And after having read it all those times, I can truthfully say that I
think it's nothing but a collection of Bronze and Iron Age myths, and
pretty nasty ones at that.
Care to comment?
See you there. I'm one of the judges (1 Cor 6:2).
His,
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www.geocities.com/fredstover7@sbcglobal.net/
Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as
a little child, he shall not enter therein. (Mark 10:15)
<)))))><
Preparing the way of the Lord.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes at dakotacom dot net
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The Great White Throne Judgment of God For Unbelievers
You need to read the book.
Did that. Read it through, on a yearly basis, between age 8 and age
22. I read it in German, Greek, and Spanish, in addition reading it
in English. Have read it in several different English translations.
And after having read it all those times, I can truthfully say that I
think it's nothing but a collection of Bronze and Iron Age myths, and
pretty nasty ones at that.
Care to comment?
See you there. I'm one of the judges (1 Cor 6:2).
You're a looney!
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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The Great White Throne Judgment of God For Unbelievers
You need to read the book.
Did that. Read it through, on a yearly basis, between age 8 and age
22. I read it in German, Greek, and Spanish, in addition reading it
in English. Have read it in several different English translations.
And after having read it all those times, I can truthfully say that I
think it's nothing but a collection of Bronze and Iron Age myths, and
pretty nasty ones at that.
Care to comment?
See you there. I'm one of the judges (1 Cor 6:2).
You're a looney!
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
"the bird"!
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On Jun 20, 2:30 pm, "Fred A Stover" <fredsto...@email.com> wrote:
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The Great White Throne Judgment of God For Unbelievers
You need to read the book.
Did that. Read it through, on a yearly basis, between age 8 and age
22. I read it in German, Greek, and Spanish, in addition reading it
in English. Have read it in several different English translations.
And after having read it all those times, I can truthfully say that I
think it's nothing but a collection of Bronze and Iron Age myths, and
pretty nasty ones at that.
Care to comment?
See you there. I'm one of the judges (1 Cor 6:2).
Oh, lookie. Another theist who can't provide any evidence for god is
making threats. I'm so scared. <Yawn>
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes at dakotacom dot net
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On Jun 20, 2:30 pm, "Fred A Stover" <fredsto...@email.com> wrote:
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On Jun 19, 6:19 pm, "Fred A Stover" <fredsto...@email.com> wrote:
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The Great White Throne Judgment of God For Unbelievers
You need to read the book.
Did that. Read it through, on a yearly basis, between age 8 and age
22. I read it in German, Greek, and Spanish, in addition reading it
in English. Have read it in several different English translations.
And after having read it all those times, I can truthfully say that I
think it's nothing but a collection of Bronze and Iron Age myths, and
pretty nasty ones at that.
Care to comment?
See you there. I'm one of the judges (1 Cor 6:2).
Oh, lookie. Another theist who can't provide any evidence for god is
making threats. I'm so scared. <Yawn>
Threat? Sounds like paranoia.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes at dakotacom dot net
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On Jun 20, 5:30 pm, "Fred A Stover" <fredsto...@email.com> wrote:
"skyeyes" <skye...@dakotacom.net> wrote in message
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On Jun 19, 6:19 pm, "Fred A Stover" <fredsto...@email.com> wrote:
"No Reply" <nr22...@shotmail.com> wrote in message
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The Great White Throne Judgment of God For Unbelievers
You need to read the book.
Did that. Read it through, on a yearly basis, between age 8 and age
22. I read it in German, Greek, and Spanish, in addition reading it
in English. Have read it in several different English translations.
And after having read it all those times, I can truthfully say that I
think it's nothing but a collection of Bronze and Iron Age myths, and
pretty nasty ones at that.
Care to comment?
See you there. I'm one of the judges (1 Cor 6:2).
The Christian bible proves nothing but that ancient preists were just
as afraid of a *real* job as modern ones.
His,
Hers,
www.geocities.com/fredstov...@sbcglobal.net/
Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as
a little child, he shall not enter therein. (Mark 10:15)
"There are none more ignorant and useless,than they that seek answers
on their knees, with their eyes closed"
-anon
<)))))><
Preparing the way of the Lord.
Who, per your myth, should have been here two thousand years ago.
Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not
taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.
-Matt 16:28
Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this
generation.
-Matt. 23:36
-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
aa#2015/KoBAAWA!
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21 Jun 2007 09:35:13 AM |
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On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:30:59 -0500, Fred A Stover wrote:
"skyeyes" <skyeyes@dakotacom.net> wrote in message
news:1182373728.660461.138880@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 19, 6:19 pm, "Fred A Stover" <fredsto...@email.com> wrote:
"No Reply" <nr22...@shotmail.com> wrote in message
news:116cj0.f4a.19.1@news.alt.net...
The Great White Throne Judgment of God For Unbelievers
You need to read the book.
Did that. Read it through, on a yearly basis, between age 8 and age
22. I read it in German, Greek, and Spanish, in addition reading it in
English. Have read it in several different English translations.
And after having read it all those times, I can truthfully say that I
think it's nothing but a collection of Bronze and Iron Age myths, and
pretty nasty ones at that.
Care to comment?
See you there. I'm one of the judges (1 Cor 6:2).
Ah, Christian humility...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"What the hell is an aluminum Falcon?"
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20 Jun 2007 05:46:13 PM |
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"skyeyes" <skyeyes@dakotacom.net> wrote in message news:1182373728.660461.138880@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 19, 6:19 pm, "Fred A Stover" <fredsto...@email.com> wrote:
"No Reply" <nr22...@shotmail.com> wrote in message
news:116cj0.f4a.19.1@news.alt.net...
The Great White Throne Judgment of God For Unbelievers
You need to read the book.
Did that. Read it through, on a yearly basis, between age 8 and age
22. I read it in German, Greek, and Spanish, in addition reading it
in English. Have read it in several different English translations.
And after having read it all those times, I can truthfully say that I
think it's nothing but a collection of Bronze and Iron Age myths, and
pretty nasty ones at that.
Care to comment?
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes at dakotacom dot net
Without the Holy Spirit, an unregenerate person cannot understand the
Spiritual message. ***** does one become born again and be saved?
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20 Jun 2007 06:01:28 PM |
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On Jun 20, 3:46 pm, "No Reply" <nr22...@shotmail.com> wrote:
"skyeyes" <skye...@dakotacom.net> wrote in messagenews:1182373728.660461.138880@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 19, 6:19 pm, "Fred A Stover" <fredsto...@email.com> wrote:
"No Reply" <nr22...@shotmail.com> wrote in message
news:116cj0.f4a.19.1@news.alt.net...
The Great White Throne Judgment of God For Unbelievers
You need to read the book.
Did that. Read it through, on a yearly basis, between age 8 and age
22. I read it in German, Greek, and Spanish, in addition reading it
in English. Have read it in several different English translations.
And after having read it all those times, I can truthfully say that I
think it's nothing but a collection of Bronze and Iron Age myths, and
pretty nasty ones at that.
Care to comment?
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes at dakotacom dot net
Without the Holy Spirit, an unregenerate person cannot understand the
Spiritual message.
So you're saying that in order to understand what it is that you need
to believe, you first have to believe?
***** does one become born again and be saved?
There is nothing we need to be saved *from*.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes at dakotacom dot net
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21 Jun 2007 09:41:16 AM |
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On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:01:28 -0700, skyeyes wrote:
On Jun 20, 3:46 pm, "No Reply" <nr22...@shotmail.com> wrote:
"skyeyes" <skye...@dakotacom.net> wrote in
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On Jun 19, 6:19 pm, "Fred A Stover" <fredsto...@email.com> wrote:
"No Reply" <nr22...@shotmail.com> wrote in message
news:116cj0.f4a.19.1@news.alt.net...
The Great White Throne Judgment of God For Unbelievers
You need to read the book.
Did that. Read it through, on a yearly basis, between age 8 and age
22. I read it in German, Greek, and Spanish, in addition reading it
in English. Have read it in several different English translations.
And after having read it all those times, I can truthfully say that I
think it's nothing but a collection of Bronze and Iron Age myths, and
pretty nasty ones at that.
Care to comment?
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding skyeyes at
dakotacom dot net
Without the Holy Spirit, an unregenerate person cannot understand
the Spiritual message.
So you're saying that in order to understand what it is that you need to
believe, you first have to believe?
I do like the little dance they do about the "unsaved" can't understand
but they still keep pushing the not understandable stuff at us.
Apparently, they're supposed to throw bible bits all over the place until
the holly spurt comes along and makes it stick. Somehow, this is a "free
will" choice even though you can't understand anything until Casper the
Holy Ghost comes and whispers in your ear.
So only god can give you the secret decoder ring to understand that which
cannot be understood but which--not being allowed to understand because
god hasn't given you the secret decoder ring--you are "freely choosing"
to reject.
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"You believe in a book that has talking animals, wizards,
witches, demons, sticks turning into snakes, food falling
from the sky, people walking on water, and all sorts of magical,
absurd and primitive stories, and you say that *we* are the
ones that need help?" - Jon Stoll
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22 Jun 2007 12:20:45 PM |
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On Jun 21, 7:41 am, "Mark K. Bilbo" <g...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:01:28 -0700, skyeyes wrote:
On Jun 20, 3:46 pm, "No Reply" <nr22...@shotmail.com> wrote:
"skyeyes" <skye...@dakotacom.net> wrote in
messagenews:1182373728.660461.138880@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 19, 6:19 pm, "Fred A Stover" <fredsto...@email.com> wrote:
"No Reply" <nr22...@shotmail.com> wrote in message
news:116cj0.f4a.19.1@news.alt.net...
The Great White Throne Judgment of God For Unbelievers
You need to read the book.
Did that. Read it through, on a yearly basis, between age 8 and age
22. I read it in German, Greek, and Spanish, in addition reading it
in English. Have read it in several different English translations.
And after having read it all those times, I can truthfully say that I
think it's nothing but a collection of Bronze and Iron Age myths, and
pretty nasty ones at that.
Care to comment?
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding skyeyes at
dakotacom dot net
Without the Holy Spirit, an unregenerate person cannot understand
the Spiritual message.
So you're saying that in order to understand what it is that you need to
believe, you first have to believe?
I do like the little dance they do about the "unsaved" can't understand
but they still keep pushing the not understandable stuff at us.
Apparently, they're supposed to throw bible bits all over the place until
the holly spurt comes along and makes it stick. Somehow, this is a "free
will" choice even though you can't understand anything until Casper the
Holy Ghost comes and whispers in your ear.
So only god can give you the secret decoder ring to understand that which
cannot be understood but which--not being allowed to understand because
god hasn't given you the secret decoder ring--you are "freely choosing"
to reject.
Pretty much, yeah. The reason they go around throwing the bible bits
is that they're taught that it's commensurate with "planting a seed."
At some point, they think, we'll remember some of this scripture they
keep quoting, and the holy spirit will use it to "convict" us of it's
truth.
Yes, they really do believe it works that way.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes at dakotacom dot net
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22 Jun 2007 03:59:53 PM |
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On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 10:20:45 -0700, skyeyes wrote:
On Jun 21, 7:41 am, "Mark K. Bilbo" <g...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:01:28 -0700, skyeyes wrote:
On Jun 20, 3:46 pm, "No Reply" <nr22...@shotmail.com> wrote:
"skyeyes" <skye...@dakotacom.net> wrote in
messagenews:1182373728.660461.138880@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 19, 6:19 pm, "Fred A Stover" <fredsto...@email.com> wrote:
"No Reply" <nr22...@shotmail.com> wrote in message
news:116cj0.f4a.19.1@news.alt.net...
The Great White Throne Judgment of God For Unbelievers
You need to read the book.
Did that. Read it through, on a yearly basis, between age 8 and
age 22. I read it in German, Greek, and Spanish, in addition
reading it in English. Have read it in several different English
translations.
And after having read it all those times, I can truthfully say
that I think it's nothing but a collection of Bronze and Iron Age
myths, and pretty nasty ones at that.
Care to comment?
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding skyeyes at
dakotacom dot net
Without the Holy Spirit, an unregenerate person cannot understand
the Spiritual message.
So you're saying that in order to understand what it is that you need
to believe, you first have to believe?
I do like the little dance they do about the "unsaved" can't understand
but they still keep pushing the not understandable stuff at us.
Apparently, they're supposed to throw bible bits all over the place
until the holly spurt comes along and makes it stick. Somehow, this is
a "free will" choice even though you can't understand anything until
Casper the Holy Ghost comes and whispers in your ear.
So only god can give you the secret decoder ring to understand that
which cannot be understood but which--not being allowed to understand
because god hasn't given you the secret decoder ring--you are "freely
choosing" to reject.
Pretty much, yeah. The reason they go around throwing the bible bits is
that they're taught that it's commensurate with "planting a seed." At
some point, they think, we'll remember some of this scripture they keep
quoting, and the holy spirit will use it to "convict" us of it's truth.
Yes, they really do believe it works that way.
You don't have to tell me. I <shudder> used to believe it worked that
way...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"Come to think of it, there are already a million monkeys
on a million typewriters, and the Usenet is NOTHING
like Shakespeare!" - Blair Houghton
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22 Jun 2007 04:10:20 PM |
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On Jun 22, 1:59 pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <g...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 10:20:45 -0700, skyeyes wrote:
On Jun 21, 7:41 am, "Mark K. Bilbo" <g...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:01:28 -0700, skyeyes wrote:
On Jun 20, 3:46 pm, "No Reply" <nr22...@shotmail.com> wrote:
"skyeyes" <skye...@dakotacom.net> wrote in
messagenews:1182373728.660461.138880@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 19, 6:19 pm, "Fred A Stover" <fredsto...@email.com> wrote:
"No Reply" <nr22...@shotmail.com> wrote in message
news:116cj0.f4a.19.1@news.alt.net...
The Great White Throne Judgment of God For Unbelievers
You need to read the book.
Did that. Read it through, on a yearly basis, between age 8 and
age 22. I read it in German, Greek, and Spanish, in addition
reading it in English. Have read it in several different English
translations.
And after having read it all those times, I can truthfully say
that I think it's nothing but a collection of Bronze and Iron Age
myths, and pretty nasty ones at that.
Care to comment?
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding skyeyes at
dakotacom dot net
Without the Holy Spirit, an unregenerate person cannot understand
the Spiritual message.
So you're saying that in order to understand what it is that you need
to believe, you first have to believe?
I do like the little dance they do about the "unsaved" can't understand
but they still keep pushing the not understandable stuff at us.
Apparently, they're supposed to throw bible bits all over the place
until the holly spurt comes along and makes it stick. Somehow, this is
a "free will" choice even though you can't understand anything until
Casper the Holy Ghost comes and whispers in your ear.
So only god can give you the secret decoder ring to understand that
which cannot be understood but which--not being allowed to understand
because god hasn't given you the secret decoder ring--you are "freely
choosing" to reject.
Pretty much, yeah. The reason they go around throwing the bible bits is
that they're taught that it's commensurate with "planting a seed." At
some point, they think, we'll remember some of this scripture they keep
quoting, and the holy spirit will use it to "convict" us of it's truth.
Yes, they really do believe it works that way.
You don't have to tell me. I <shudder> used to believe it worked that
way...
Oh, that's right, I misremembered. Sorry.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes at dakotacom dot net
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22 Jun 2007 04:19:45 PM |
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On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 14:10:20 -0700, skyeyes wrote:
On Jun 22, 1:59 pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <g...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 10:20:45 -0700, skyeyes wrote:
On Jun 21, 7:41 am, "Mark K. Bilbo" <g...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:01:28 -0700, skyeyes wrote:
On Jun 20, 3:46 pm, "No Reply" <nr22...@shotmail.com> wrote:
"skyeyes" <skye...@dakotacom.net> wrote in
messagenews:1182373728.660461.138880@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 19, 6:19 pm, "Fred A Stover" <fredsto...@email.com>
wrote:
"No Reply" <nr22...@shotmail.com> wrote in message
news:116cj0.f4a.19.1@news.alt.net...
The Great White Throne Judgment of God For Unbelievers
You need to read the book.
Did that. Read it through, on a yearly basis, between age 8
and age 22. I read it in German, Greek, and Spanish, in
addition reading it in English. Have read it in several
different English translations.
And after having read it all those times, I can truthfully say
that I think it's nothing but a collection of Bronze and Iron
Age myths, and pretty nasty ones at that.
Care to comment?
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding skyeyes
at dakotacom dot net
Without the Holy Spirit, an unregenerate person cannot
understand the Spiritual message.
So you're saying that in order to understand what it is that you
need to believe, you first have to believe?
I do like the little dance they do about the "unsaved" can't
understand but they still keep pushing the not understandable stuff
at us. Apparently, they're supposed to throw bible bits all over the
place until the holly spurt comes along and makes it stick. Somehow,
this is a "free will" choice even though you can't understand
anything until Casper the Holy Ghost comes and whispers in your ear.
So only god can give you the secret decoder ring to understand that
which cannot be understood but which--not being allowed to
understand because god hasn't given you the secret decoder ring--you
are "freely choosing" to reject.
Pretty much, yeah. The reason they go around throwing the bible bits
is that they're taught that it's commensurate with "planting a seed."
At some point, they think, we'll remember some of this scripture they
keep quoting, and the holy spirit will use it to "convict" us of it's
truth.
Yes, they really do believe it works that way.
You don't have to tell me. I <shudder> used to believe it worked that
way...
Oh, that's right, I misremembered. Sorry.
I got better!
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"Warned you we tried! Listen you did not! Now screwed
we will all be!"
http://www.sequentialpictures.com/moviestarwarsepisode3.html
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20 Jun 2007 03:16:39 AM |
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On Jun 20, 2:19 am, "Fred A Stover" <fredsto...@email.com> wrote:
"No Reply" <nr22...@shotmail.com> wrote in message
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The Great White Throne Judgment of God For Unbelievers
You need to read the book.
John 5:29
And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of
life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of judgment.
Read that. I read The Lord of the Rings too - just as connected with
reality, but a lot more entertaining.
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20 Jun 2007 10:39:17 PM |
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On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 01:19:21 GMT, "Fred A Stover"
<fredstover@email.com> wrote:
"No Reply" <nr222_a@shotmail.com> wrote in message
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The Great White Throne Judgment of God For Unbelievers
You need to read the book.
<snip Bible crap>
Why? It's all horse *****.
After all, it is The Great White Throne Judgment, not The Great White Throne
Charade.
It's not real enough to be a charade.
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19 Jun 2007 11:59:09 PM |
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One fine day in alt.atheism, "Fred A Stover" <fredstover@email.com>
bloodied us up with this:
"No Reply" <nr222_a@shotmail.com> wrote in message
news:116cj0.f4a.19.1@news.alt.net...
The Great White Throne Judgment of God For Unbelievers
You need to read the book.
"No Reply" seems to be more of a "see the movie" kind of guy.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Convicted by Earthquack.
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19 Jun 2007 06:31:38 PM |
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"No Reply" <nr222_a@shotmail.com> wrote in news:116cj0.f4a.19.1
@news.alt.net:
The Great White Throne Judgment of God For Unbelievers
Sounds more like a great white wail to me.
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Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
-- Carl Sagan
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On Jun 19, 11:58 pm, "No Reply" <nr22...@shotmail.com> wrote:
The Great White Throne Judgment of God For Unbelievers
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On Jun 20, 9:07 am, "The Rev Dr. Hugh Jarse NLAHN."
<hugh.ja...@heathens.org.uk> wrote:
On Jun 19, 11:58 pm, "No Reply" <nr22...@shotmail.com> wrote:> The Great White Throne Judgment of God For Unbelievers
http://a1259.g.akamai.net/f/1259/5586/5d/images.art.com/images/-/Fran...
Dammit Rev, ya beat me to it!
-PF, Atl.
aa#2015/KoBAAWA!
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19 Jun 2007 06:11:47 PM |
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On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 22:58:09 +0000 (UTC), "No Reply"
<nr222_a@shotmail.com> spoke thusly:
The Great White Throne Judgment of God For Unbelievers
The Great White Throne is what men mistakenly call the general judgment.
It is general only in the sense that all the lost of all ages are raised
to be judged here. All who are saved have been raised in the first
resurrection. Even the tribulation saints had part in the first
resurrection. This is the second resurrection in which the lost are raised
to be given an equitable, fair, and just evaluation of their works in
respect to their salvation.
"Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time
of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together
first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them:
but gather the wheat into my barn." - Matthew 13:30
--
Pastor Dave
Expand and go out into the ocean of your faith.
God doesn't do His deepest work in the shallowest
part of the water.
The world says that seeing is believing.
The Bible says that believing is seeing.
Doctrine is not Scripture.
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19 Jun 2007 08:34:28 PM |
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"Pastor Dave" <.......SNAFU.......@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:diog739eg5cqq58uait8ur10geifrjhlpe@4ax.com...
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 22:58:09 +0000 (UTC), "No Reply"
<nr222_a@shotmail.com> spoke thusly:
The Great White Throne Judgment of God For Unbelievers
The Great White Throne is what men mistakenly call the general judgment.
It is general only in the sense that all the lost of all ages are raised
to be judged here. All who are saved have been raised in the first
resurrection. Even the tribulation saints had part in the first
resurrection. This is the second resurrection in which the lost are
raised
to be given an equitable, fair, and just evaluation of their works in
respect to their salvation.
"Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time
of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together
first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them:
but gather the wheat into my barn." - Matthew 13:30
What Satan doesn't know is that it is the church which designates the tares
and the wheat: "Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world?" (1
Cor. 6:2): "And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was
given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the
witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the
beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their
foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a
thousand years. (but the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand
years were finished). This is the first resurrection" (Rev. 20:4-5).
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His,
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www.geocities.com/fredstover7@sbcglobal.net/
Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as
a little child, he shall not enter therein. (Mark 10:15)
<)))))><
Preparing the way of the Lord.
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| Title: Re: The Great White Throne Judgment of God For Unbelievers |
20 Jun 2007 10:39:48 PM |
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On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 01:34:28 GMT, "Fred A Stover"
<fredstover@email.com> wrote:
What Satan doesn't know
Is everything, since he doesn't actually exist.
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| User: "Ronald More-More Moshki" |
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| Title: Re: The Great White Throne Judgment of God For Unbelievers |
19 Jun 2007 06:29:49 PM |
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On Jun 19, 7:11 pm, Pastor Dave <n...@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 22:58:09 +0000 (UTC), "No Reply"
<nr22...@shotmail.com> spoke thusly:
The Great White Throne Judgment of God For Unbelievers
The Great White Throne is what men mistakenly call the general judgment.
It is general only in the sense that all the lost of all ages are raised
to be judged here. All who are saved have been raised in the first
resurrection. Even the tribulation saints had part in the first
resurrection. This is the second resurrection in which the lost are raised
to be given an equitable, fair, and just evaluation of their works in
respect to their salvation.
"Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time
of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together
first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them:
but gather the wheat into my barn." - Matthew 13:30
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Pastor Dave
Expand and go out into the ocean of your faith.
God doesn't do His deepest work in the shallowest
part of the water.
The world says that seeing is believing.
The Bible says that believing is seeing.
Doctrine is not Scripture.
Those who believe in order to gain a second life
in The North, are already headed South, where they will
find trillions of years of 'warmth', the PC word for the agonizing,
torturous heat they will suffer each day of those trillions of years.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: The Great White Throne Judgment of God For Unbelievers |
19 Jun 2007 07:00:13 PM |
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On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 22:58:09 +0000, No Reply wrote:
The Great White Throne
Flush throne?
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Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"Christians, it is needless to say, utterly detest each
other. They slander each other constantly with the vilest
forms of abuse and cannot come to any sort of agreement
in their teachings. Each sect brands its own, fills the
head of its own with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect
little pigs of those it wins over to its side."
- Celsus (2nd century C.E.)
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: The Great White Throne Judgment of God For Unbelievers |
20 Jun 2007 10:01:31 AM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:ZoudnYmNLYuQ8-XbnZ2dnUVZ_h_inZ2d@giganews.com...
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 22:58:09 +0000, No Reply wrote:
The Great White Throne
Flush throne?
Porcelain altar?
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| User: "No Reply" |
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| Title: Re: The Great White Throne Judgment of God For Unbelievers |
20 Jun 2007 05:56:39 PM |
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message news:5dstpaF35grbpU1@mid.individual.net...
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message news:ZoudnYmNLYuQ8-XbnZ2dnUVZ_h_inZ2d@giganews.com...
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 22:58:09 +0000, No Reply wrote:
The Great White Throne
Flush throne?
Porcelain altar?
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
"the bird"!
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: The Great White Throne Judgment of God For Unbelievers |
20 Jun 2007 06:11:20 PM |
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On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 18:56:39 -0400, No Reply wrote:
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
news:5dstpaF35grbpU1@mid.individual.net...
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:ZoudnYmNLYuQ8-XbnZ2dnUVZ_h_inZ2d@giganews.com...
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 22:58:09 +0000, No Reply wrote:
The Great White Throne
Flush throne?
Porcelain altar?
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
"the bird"!
Well, that made no sense...
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Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism,
because it is a merger of State and corporate power."
- Mussolini
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