Religions > Bible > The Holy Spirit is a Distinct Person from the Father and Son
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20 Dec 2006 09:51:57 AM |
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The Holy Spirit is a Distinct Person from the Father and Son |
On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 09:38:36 -0800,
in article <12og8t0lg6pfuc6@corp.supernews.com>,
oldwetdog <g.aedhealic@yahoo.com> wrote:
The Term "God" may mean "Spirit Being" John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and
they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
The Holy Spirit is a distinct person from the Father and the
Son:
1) His name is distinct from the Father and Son
Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations,
baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and
of the Holy Ghost:
2) He descended on Christ while the Father spoke from heaven
Matthew 3
16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out
of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and
he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting
upon him:
17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved
Son, in whom I am well pleased.
3) He speaks of Christ, not "Himself"
John 16
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will
guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself;
but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will
shew you things to come.
14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and
shall shew it unto you.
Not only does this passage use masculine personal pronouns to
refer to the Spirit, but it distinguishes the Spirit from
Christ as a person.
4) He is "another" Comforter
John 14
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another
Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive,
because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know
him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
The Holy Spirit is not just a "force" ("May the force be with
you"), or influence of God the Father, as Arians and Jehovah's
Witnesses believe. He is a distinct person from the Father
and Son, yet He is God.
--
Christ died for our sins, and God raised Him from the dead.
Rely on this work alone to escape hell and receive eternal
life (Jn. 3:16; 1 Cor. 15:1-3; Eph. 2:8-10; 2 Thess. 1:8-9).
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| User: "Mistylien" |
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| Title: Re: The Holy Spirit is a Distinct Person from the Father and Son |
21 Dec 2006 04:19:59 AM |
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"Randy" <pulpitfire@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 09:38:36 -0800,
in article <12og8t0lg6pfuc6@corp.supernews.com>,
oldwetdog <g.aedhealic@yahoo.com> wrote:
The Term "God" may mean "Spirit Being" John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and
they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
The Holy Spirit is a distinct person from the Father and the
Son:
No the spirit is a distinct Spirit not a person at all.
It is the Spirit of Truth that enables us to even know the Father or
the Son.
1) His name is distinct from the Father and Son
Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations,
baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and
of the Holy Ghost:
There is no Holy Ghost.
A Ghost is an aperition, While the Holy Spirit is an atribute.
It is the Brits that try to claim it is some kind of Ghost spook.
M,
2) He descended on Christ while the Father spoke from heaven
Matthew 3
16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out
of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and
he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting
upon him:
17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved
Son, in whom I am well pleased.
3) He speaks of Christ, not "Himself"
John 16
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will
guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself;
but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will
shew you things to come.
14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and
shall shew it unto you.
Not only does this passage use masculine personal pronouns to
refer to the Spirit, but it distinguishes the Spirit from
Christ as a person.
4) He is "another" Comforter
John 14
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another
Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive,
because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know
him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
The Holy Spirit is not just a "force" ("May the force be with
you"), or influence of God the Father, as Arians and Jehovah's
Witnesses believe. He is a distinct person from the Father
and Son, yet He is God.
--
Christ died for our sins, and God raised Him from the dead.
Rely on this work alone to escape hell and receive eternal
life (Jn. 3:16; 1 Cor. 15:1-3; Eph. 2:8-10; 2 Thess. 1:8-9).
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| User: "Zadok" |
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| Title: Re: The Holy Spirit is a Distinct Person from the Father and Son |
21 Dec 2006 05:34:46 AM |
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"Mistylien" <> wrote in message ...
There is no Holy Ghost.
A Ghost is an aperition, While the Holy Spirit is an atribute.
Just depends on what bible translation you use. Some say spirit, and some
say ghost.
Rather than you pretending that you are right, why not just admit that
spirit and ghost are interchangable??
Would it rock your world that much??
Smile.
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| User: "Mistylien" |
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22 Dec 2006 12:34:27 AM |
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"Zadok" <nobler@accesswave.ca> wrote in message news:qjuih.84444$hn.24877@edtnps82...
"Mistylien" <> wrote in message ...
There is no Holy Ghost.
A Ghost is an aperition, While the Holy Spirit is an atribute.
Just depends on what bible translation you use. Some say spirit, and some
say ghost.
Rather than you pretending that you are right, why not just admit that
spirit and ghost are interchangable??
Would it rock your world that much??
Yes it rocks my world very much as long as the spirit of the antichrist is
at large and using every sort of lies and deception available.
A spook and a Spirit are way different entities.
Holy spook really takes away from the real Personage of the Holy Spirit that
Our Lord passes on to us in the form of the Spirit of Truth.
Not some spook to come and let us think we need to be invisioning Apearitions of
some sort so people can brag that they saw vissions of some kind.
That is for the Roman Sect to keep delivering from time to time to get their
patrons attention and to see if they are still paying attention to the RCC Doctrins.
M,
Smile.
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| User: "Randy" |
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21 Dec 2006 05:00:21 AM |
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On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 04:19:59 -0600,
in article <Zctih.3966$vp5.1615@newsfe06.lga>,
"Mistylien" <yardholler@charter.net> wrote:
There is no Holy Ghost.
A Ghost is an aperition, While the Holy Spirit is an atribute.
It is the Brits that try to claim it is some kind of Ghost spook.
Next time, the only thing you need to say is "please put me in
your kill-file". Goodbye.
--
Christ died for our sins, and God raised Him from the dead.
Rely on this work alone to escape hell and receive eternal
life (Jn. 3:16; 1 Cor. 15:1-3; Eph. 2:8-10; 2 Thess. 1:8-9).
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| User: "Zadok" |
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20 Dec 2006 02:10:22 PM |
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"Rany" <whose pulpit caught on fire> wrote in message
1) His name is distinct from the Father and Son
Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations,
baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and
of the Holy Ghost:
Actually in the original case that read -
Demonstratio Evangelica -
Book III Chapter 6, page 152
With one word and voice He said to His disciples: "Go, and make disciples
of all the nations in My Name, teaching them to observe all things
whatsoever I have commanded you," [[Matt. xxviii. 19.]]
It was only after the Council of Nicea in 325AD, that the Father, Son and
Holy Ghost was added.
Notice nothing about baptism either!!
Just thought if you were quoting that, you would like the original version.
Smile!!
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| User: "gatekeeper" |
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21 Dec 2006 04:34:05 AM |
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Zadok wrote:
"Rany" <whose pulpit caught on fire> wrote in message
1) His name is distinct from the Father and Son
Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations,
baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and
of the Holy Ghost:
Actually in the original case that read -
Demonstratio Evangelica -
Book III Chapter 6, page 152
With one word and voice He said to His disciples: "Go, and make disciples
of all the nations in My Name, teaching them to observe all things
whatsoever I have commanded you," [[Matt. xxviii. 19.]]
It was only after the Council of Nicea in 325AD, that the Father, Son and
Holy Ghost was added.
Notice nothing about baptism either!!
Just thought if you were quoting that, you would like the original version.
Smile!!
Zadok knows this because, he has an original version! In fact, Zadok
got an autographed copy by the 12 apostles themselves! He was at their
first book signing, at the Old Jerusalem going out of business garage
sale back there in 69, or was it 70!
The Eastgate is open, the King is in Residence! Whosoever will, may
come in!
Gatekeeper
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| User: "Zadok" |
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21 Dec 2006 05:32:11 AM |
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"gatekeeper" <> wrote in message
Zadok knows this because, he has an original version! In fact, Zadok
got an autographed copy by the 12 apostles themselves! He was at their
first book signing, at the Old Jerusalem going out of business garage
sale back there in 69, or was it 70!
No, actually I did some study!!
I didn't pretend to study like you do.
You still hearing those voices??
Smile.
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25 Dec 2006 03:25:29 PM |
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http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/803099.html
Jews aren't supposed to love Christmas
By Bradley Burston
Jews aren't supposeed to love Christmas.
Historically,
our job as Jews was to resist its charms,
suspect its motives, endure its excesses.
At best,
in a Diaspora where schools
were public and Christianity
assumed,
we were supposed to
grin and bear it.
At worst,
in a Diaspora where Jews were
vilified and Christianity a cause,
we were supposed to survive the
murderous pogroms that at times
attended it.
We were never supposed to love it.
That's why it comes
as such a shock,
that so many of us do.
This week, the New York Times'
second most e-mailed article was
"Jewish in a Winter Wonderland,"
a paean to Christmas by author
and Sex and the City executive
producer Cindy Chupak,
who details with tinsel-trimmed
glee how she and her husband,
both of them Jews,
"proceeded to embrace
the holiday in all of
its materialistic glory."
Most of us Jews who love Christmas,
by contrast, do so with discretion,
marveling under our breaths at the
majesty and whimsy of the season,
the sudden congeniality of the populace,
the earthly paradise of lights and
costumed trees and good wishes and
good will.
In fact,
judging by the many observant
Jews who have vocally defended
the right of Christians to
celebrate the holiday
publicly and openly,
the secret society of
Jews who love Christmas
even includes no small
number of the scrupulously devout,
those who fear and obey the letter
and the law and the Lord of Moses alone.
And why not? Christmas,
beyond the hype and the Month
of Black Fridays mega-marketing,
seems to pry the best out of people.
Once a year,
zealous defense of privacy thaws,
the ideology of avarice yields to
gestures of charity and generosity.
Once a year, in the Western world,
people take on the characteristics
of human beings.
Here in the East, for those of
us who live in the place where
Jesus was born,
there's a message for us as well:
The birth of every infant
is the ultimate prayer for peace.
It is God's sign that blood
grudges and land grudges -
carefully nurtured, treasured,
handed-down, polished and
exported into an entire
cultural heritage -
are the Devil's work.
There's a message to this holiday
that this place needs to hear,
Muslim, Jew or Christian:
We can choose to bear our
grudges into the grave.
Or we can choose to look
again at our lives, the
way we look at a newborn.
As if this had never
happened this way before.
As if God had given
the world a second
chance.
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| User: "zr" |
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25 Dec 2006 03:47:39 PM |
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Of course we love Xmas. We invented it and a Jew stars in it.
"torresD" <torresd30@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:dlXjh.3588$w91.3251@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/803099.html
Jews aren't supposed to love Christmas
By Bradley Burston
Jews aren't supposeed to love Christmas.
Historically,
our job as Jews was to resist its charms,
suspect its motives, endure its excesses.
At best,
in a Diaspora where schools
were public and Christianity
assumed,
we were supposed to
grin and bear it.
At worst,
in a Diaspora where Jews were
vilified and Christianity a cause,
we were supposed to survive the
murderous pogroms that at times
attended it.
We were never supposed to love it.
That's why it comes
as such a shock,
that so many of us do.
This week, the New York Times'
second most e-mailed article was
"Jewish in a Winter Wonderland,"
a paean to Christmas by author
and Sex and the City executive
producer Cindy Chupak,
who details with tinsel-trimmed
glee how she and her husband,
both of them Jews,
"proceeded to embrace
the holiday in all of
its materialistic glory."
Most of us Jews who love Christmas,
by contrast, do so with discretion,
marveling under our breaths at the
majesty and whimsy of the season,
the sudden congeniality of the populace,
the earthly paradise of lights and
costumed trees and good wishes and
good will.
In fact,
judging by the many observant
Jews who have vocally defended
the right of Christians to
celebrate the holiday
publicly and openly,
the secret society of
Jews who love Christmas
even includes no small
number of the scrupulously devout,
those who fear and obey the letter
and the law and the Lord of Moses alone.
And why not? Christmas,
beyond the hype and the Month
of Black Fridays mega-marketing,
seems to pry the best out of people.
Once a year,
zealous defense of privacy thaws,
the ideology of avarice yields to
gestures of charity and generosity.
Once a year, in the Western world,
people take on the characteristics
of human beings.
Here in the East, for those of
us who live in the place where
Jesus was born,
there's a message for us as well:
The birth of every infant
is the ultimate prayer for peace.
It is God's sign that blood
grudges and land grudges -
carefully nurtured, treasured,
handed-down, polished and
exported into an entire
cultural heritage -
are the Devil's work.
There's a message to this holiday
that this place needs to hear,
Muslim, Jew or Christian:
We can choose to bear our
grudges into the grave.
Or we can choose to look
again at our lives, the
way we look at a newborn.
As if this had never
happened this way before.
As if God had given
the world a second
chance.
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25 Dec 2006 10:48:34 PM |
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On 25-Dec-2006, "torresD" <torresd30@hotmail.com> wrote:
This week, the New York Times'
second most e-mailed article was
"Jewish in a Winter Wonderland,"
a paean to Christmas by author
and Sex and the City executive
producer Cindy Chupak,
***** Christmas and ***** the Chupaks.
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20 Dec 2006 10:16:15 AM |
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Randy wrote:
On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 09:38:36 -0800,
in article <12og8t0lg6pfuc6@corp.supernews.com>,
oldwetdog <g.aedhealic@yahoo.com> wrote:
The Term "God" may mean "Spirit Being" John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and
they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
The Holy Spirit is a distinct person from the Father and the
Son:
1) His name is distinct from the Father and Son
Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations,
baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and
of the Holy Ghost:
2) He descended on Christ while the Father spoke from heaven
Matthew 3
16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out
of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and
he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting
upon him:
17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved
Son, in whom I am well pleased.
3) He speaks of Christ, not "Himself"
John 16
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will
guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself;
but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will
shew you things to come.
14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and
shall shew it unto you.
Not only does this passage use masculine personal pronouns to
refer to the Spirit, but it distinguishes the Spirit from
Christ as a person.
4) He is "another" Comforter
John 14
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another
Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive,
because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know
him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
The Holy Spirit is not just a "force" ("May the force be with
you"), or influence of God the Father, as Arians and Jehovah's
Witnesses believe. He is a distinct person from the Father
and Son, yet He is God.
--
Christ died for our sins, and God raised Him from the dead.
Rely on this work alone to escape hell and receive eternal
life (Jn. 3:16; 1 Cor. 15:1-3; Eph. 2:8-10; 2 Thess. 1:8-9).
IAWTP
The Eastgate is open, the King is in Residence! Whosoever will, may
come in!
Gatekeeper
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| Title: Re: The Holy Spirit is a Distinct Person from the Father and Son |
20 Dec 2006 10:21:51 AM |
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gatekeeper wrote:
Randy wrote:
On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 09:38:36 -0800,
in article <12og8t0lg6pfuc6@corp.supernews.com>,
oldwetdog <g.aedhealic@yahoo.com> wrote:
The Term "God" may mean "Spirit Being" John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and
they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
The Holy Spirit is a distinct person from the Father and the
Son:
1) His name is distinct from the Father and Son
Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations,
baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and
of the Holy Ghost:
2) He descended on Christ while the Father spoke from heaven
Matthew 3
16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out
of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and
he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting
upon him:
17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved
Son, in whom I am well pleased.
3) He speaks of Christ, not "Himself"
John 16
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will
guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself;
but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will
shew you things to come.
14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and
shall shew it unto you.
Not only does this passage use masculine personal pronouns to
refer to the Spirit, but it distinguishes the Spirit from
Christ as a person.
4) He is "another" Comforter
John 14
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another
Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive,
because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know
him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
The Holy Spirit is not just a "force" ("May the force be with
you"), or influence of God the Father, as Arians and Jehovah's
Witnesses believe. He is a distinct person from the Father
and Son, yet He is God.
--
Christ died for our sins, and God raised Him from the dead.
Rely on this work alone to escape hell and receive eternal
life (Jn. 3:16; 1 Cor. 15:1-3; Eph. 2:8-10; 2 Thess. 1:8-9).
IAWTP
The Eastgate is open, the King is in Residence! Whosoever will, may
come in!
Gatekeeper BY RANDY THE BIBLE PROPHECY LIKE WORK ON BUSH AS WHAT OSAMA AND THEM BOYS http://www.welfarsetate.com/binladen within united state
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20 Dec 2006 06:51:41 PM |
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On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 09:51:57 -0600, Randy <pulpitfire@gmail.com>
wrote:
© 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of this
article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
author
On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 09:38:36 -0800,
in article <12og8t0lg6pfuc6@corp.supernews.com>,
oldwetdog <g.aedhealic@yahoo.com> wrote:
The Term "God" may mean "Spirit Being" John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and
they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
The Holy Spirit is a distinct person from the Father and the
Son:
I get quite uncomfortable-- as do the scholars I have known-- with
those who try to "tidy up the place" by "nailing down the definition
of "Who God Is."
I've been in church when--- and in seminar when-- two or three of the
senior pastors-- Ph Ds (Dr) all-- they got into public arguments over
the definition of "The Holy Trinity".
I'd say it's best to leave the squabbling to the "hallowed" halls.
1) His name is distinct from the Father and Son
Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations,
baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and
of the Holy Ghost:
2) He descended on Christ while the Father spoke from heaven
Matthew 3
16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out
of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and
he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting
upon him:
17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved
Son, in whom I am well pleased.
3) He speaks of Christ, not "Himself"
John 16
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will
guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself;
but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will
shew you things to come.
14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and
shall shew it unto you.
Not only does this passage use masculine personal pronouns to
refer to the Spirit, but it distinguishes the Spirit from
Christ as a person.
4) He is "another" Comforter
John 14
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another
Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive,
because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know
him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
The Holy Spirit is not just a "force" ("May the force be with
you"), or influence of God the Father, as Arians and Jehovah's
Witnesses believe. He is a distinct person from the Father
and Son, yet He is God.
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In <ckmjo2plcuuogjhec40e1bauhiqvb5poqv@4ax.com>, on 12/20/06
at 04:51 PM, john w <johnw<no>@yoo.how> forgetting that a liar's word
has no value, sought to seek an appeal to authority, and he cannot
establish as being valid in his case.
From: john w <johnw<no>@yoo.how>
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On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 09:51:57 -0600, Randy <pulpitfire@gmail.com> wrote:
© 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of this article
may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the author
On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 09:38:36 -0800,
in article <12og8t0lg6pfuc6@corp.supernews.com>,
oldwetdog <g.aedhealic@yahoo.com> wrote:
The Term "God" may mean "Spirit Being" John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and
they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
The Holy Spirit is a distinct person from the Father and the
Son:
I get quite uncomfortable-- as do the scholars I have known-- with those
Which scholars would those be, the dynamic trio known as me, myself and I?
Or would it be among that group of scholars whose names you like to drop
as if they would impress others as much is a do you yet, there's no reason
to believe you acting know any of those individuals personally or
otherwise.
who try to "tidy up the place" by "nailing down the definition of "Who
God Is."
It is not who god is, is what god is. We you come down to who god is, you
have left theology behind and entered the realm dogma. Of course, nobody
anticipates you be arising there really is a difference between those two
concepts.
I've been in church when--- and in seminar when-- two or three of the
senior pastors-- Ph Ds (Dr) all-- they got into public arguments over the
A Ph.D. in theology as the intellectual integrity & value of a diploma
from hamburger University, that might be one of the reasons that theology
students don't fare very when making their way into the world of commerce.
definition of "The Holy Trinity".
The man-made definition to fit in man-made concept to appease the feelings
of people who needed a better grip on controlling the flock. It also made
the job of Constantine so much easier.
I'd say it's best to leave the squabbling to the "hallowed" halls.
Since when, there's no squabbling about it. It's a pagan concept, quite
common throughout the ancient near East as well as the Far East and
Europe, and is nothing new. Mistake made by Christianity in particular,
is a mistake made by many power mongers. It was a blatant attempt to
control how people perceive their gods, and of course, there is no reason
to believe any such a thing as a possibility because the xian messiah is
missing from the Hebrew grimorie. Entire concept is alien to be due date
theology from the beginning of its recordings until the first century and
beyond.
snip
which one of the this time, Johnny? The one who is perfectly willing to
waste bandwidth of others, but is among the first to whine when he sees or
feels that his is being wasted? Perfectly typical of you, and absolutely
no surprise to anybody who has watched you do your trained seal act for
any period of time.
walksalone who is not surprised that Johnny would try to impress the
audience at pontificating on things. Things he neither knows nor can
comprehend. After all,, as the lady said, he get on acts as if he is in
attention *****, and this is his own private whorehouse. But it's not,
it's the virtual living room of an awful lot of people.
A man is accepted into a church for what he believes and he is turned out
for what he knows. -- Mark Twain, quoted from Barbara Schmidt, ed., "Mark
Twain Quotations, Newspaper Collections, & Related Resources"
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21 Dec 2006 06:28:30 AM |
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On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 16:51:41 -0800, john w <johnw<no>@yoo.how> wrote:
I get quite uncomfortable-- as do the scholars I have known--
I've been in church when--- and in seminar when--
blow, blow, blow!~
I'd say it's best to leave the squabbling to the "hallowed" halls.
Yes, you should, liar-johnnie.
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