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Topic: Religions > Bible
User: "Bill"
Date: 20 Apr 2006 06:05:28 PM
Object: THE JESUS MYTH
The Jesus story is totally implausible if not down right ridiculous. It is
not supported by any solid objective verifiable evidence. Should we believe
in a god for whom there is NO solid objective evidence? That is why this
belief is based purely on faith in totally implausible stories, not factual
objective verifiable evidence.
The Bibles were written recopied and modified by hundreds of men of unknown
veracity and honesty over 2,000 years ago. There are NO originals in
existence.
The Bibles are nothing more than myths, fables, contradictions and
impossible tales.
This all powerful God supposedly created this huge Universe that is over 13
BILLION years old. What it was and how long it existed before, we simply do
not know. Any opinion before that 13 BILLION years is pure opinion and
speculation.
The Universe is more than 20 BILLION LIGHT YEARS" in diameter (light travels
at 86,000 miles per SECOND). How much larger it is we just simply don't
know. It consists of many trillions of stars and planets. The earth is less
than a speck of dust in this huge Universe. There are over 6 1/2 BILLION
humans on this earth at present. Many billions more have existed before now
but have died. Man is but a grain of sand on a large beach relative to the
size of the Earth. Why would the creator of this huge complex Universe be
concerned about these billions of specks of dust?
According to the Bible, God supposedly created the heavens, the earth and
everything in it in six days. Adam, the original man was created during this
time from 'dust'. His mate, Eve was created from one of Adam's ribs.
According to the Bibles this all powerful omnipotent God supposedly created
all of this in six days!
This God supposedly came to earth over 2,000 years ago as a man named Jesus
to save mankind from the sins that God himself created and to preach his
wishes and commands. Archeological evidence indicates modern man has existed
approximately 100,000 years. Why did god wait all those years to come to
earth to preach his word and pay for man's sins (which he himself created!)?
This all powerful creator of the Universe supposedly came to Earth as a baby
in a manger, in the middle of winter and was born of a virgin called Mary.
If Jesus was supposedly born of a Virgin Mary and she was the wife of
Joseph, why was she still a virgin? Why did the women need to be married to
a mortal in order to give birth to a god? And why couldn't this all powerful
god creator just come to earth in what ever form he chose to create? He
supposedly created the Universe and everything in it!
If he could create Adam instantly from dust and Eve from a rib, why did he
use this slow tortuous means to create himself as a god man on earth???
He supposedly grew up as a normal child and worked as a carpenter as an
adult. There are no details in the Bibles about his younger years except
working as a carpenter. After about THIRTY YEARS he abandoned his carpentry
and announced to the local inhabitants that he was Jesus the God savior sent
from heaven to tell them God's wishes and commands.
There are NO records of Jesus', (the Christ) actual existence in the non
religious documents of the era. Depending upon which Bible story you choose,
he it is claimed he preached his doctrines for one, two or three years. In
any case, why put himself on earth for some thirty inconsequential years and
only use a few of these years to preach his doctrines? And then not use his
omnipotent power to preach to the WHOLE world instead of just a miniscule
part of the world around Jerusalem?
Jesus was baptized. In Christianity, baptism is the sacrament of
regeneration and initiation into the Christian church. According to a theme
of St. Paul the Apostle, baptism is death to a former life and the emergence
of a new person, signified by the conferring of a new name; it is the total
annulment of the sins of one's past, from which one emerges a totally
innocent person. Then why would a 'God Jesus' need to be baptized?
His sermons and teachings only reached a miniscule part of the world
population at that time because he did not speak via International Radio or
TV. IF he was an ALL powerful creator of the world, he certainly would have
had the ability to speak to ALL of mankind by means at least as effective as
man. Why did this all powerful god creator wait 100,000 years to come and
preach to only a very small segment of the world, for a period of at most
three years, and then leave us without ANY solid objective evidence of his
existence, his wishes and commands? Why did he not preserve his teachings in
some permanent form for all of mankind in the future? There are NO originals
of the Bibles. They are all hand copies of copies etc. of unknown actual
origin.
Why did he not use his great omnipotent powers to preach to the WHOLE world
from his Heaven, instead of just preaching to an insignificant portion of
the world?? Why did he leave most of mankind totally in the dark?
He supposedly distributed his word via books called the Bibles. Yet NONE of
the Bibles were written during his claimed time on earth. The original
Bibles were written and hand recopied more than 1500 years before the
invention of the printing press. There is no evidence that Jesus ever wrote
a word. NO ORIGINAL copies of ANY of the Bibles exist. Why did he not
preserve them? The Bibles now in existence are hand copies of copies etc. of
unknown and doubtful veracity. They are largely myths, fables, hearsay and
implausible tales. The four books of the New Testament were written and
copied over 60 years and more AFTER Jesus' supposed existence. None of the
authors could have known him directly. They are all third person and more
narratives of doubtful veracity. Why would a real god, creator of the
Universe, not arrange for the creation of clear, authentic, contemporary and
permanent copies of his word?
The Bibles are hand copied and recopied documents loaded with
contradictions, obvious myths, fables and implausible tales and absurdities.
Why would this omnipotent God, creator of this huge complex Universe,
provide his message in such a sloppy, inaccurate, unreliable, questionable
and confusing manor???
During his brief adulthood, preaching his word, he is 'claimed' to have
restored site to a few of the blind, restored mobility to a few of the
crippled and restored health to a few of the sick. Why was he so niggardly
about helping the poor, the disabled and the sick? Is this the likely
conduct of an all loving God creator?
After the one, two or three years he preached, (depending on which Bible you
believe) to only the locals. His preaching only reached a very small part of
the world's population. He did not avail himself of Radio, TV, Telephone or
the Internet. He then allowed himself to be painfully and brutally crucified
on a cross between two criminals to pay for man's sins (which he created).
If he died on the cross to save mankind, why was mankind no better off after
this supposed crucifixion than before? Was all this blood and gore for
noting?!
The Roman courts were models of order and fairness. A man was not condemned
without a trial; he was not handed to the executioner before being found
guilty. And yet we are asked to believe that an innocent man was brought
before a Roman court, where Pontius Pilate was Judge; that no charge of
wrongdoing having been brought against him, the Judge declared that he found
him innocent; but the mob shouted, "Crucify him; crucify him!" and to please
the rabble, Pilate commanded that the man whom he had found innocent, should
be delivered to the executioners to be crucified! Also, real criminals were
crucified by being 'tied' to the cross - not nailed! What was the purpose of
all this blood and gore?
If Jesus performed the wonderful miracles the New Testament describes, why
did the people want him crucified? Is it not amazing that a civilized people
would demand that a kind and loving man who went about doing good works, who
preached forgiveness, cleansed the leprous, and raised the dead - that they
could not be appeased until they had brutally crucified the noblest
benefactor of mankind? This makes NO sense!
If he could create the Universe and every thing in it, why did he not just
forgive man's sins, directly from his heaven, without all this blood and
gore? Three days after he died he supposedly rose from the dead and returned
to his heaven. Why did he wait uncomfortably in a crypt for three days after
his death and internment to return to his magnificent heaven?
What was the logic and purpose of this gruesome and painful killing? Only a
miniscule part of the worlds population at the time would be aware of this
claimed sacrifice.
Billions of people today are still not believers of this highly implausible
story. Why did he not preserve a video tape, DVD or other permanent record
of this historic episode? If man is capable of these devices certainly a god
creator should be equally or more proficient.
Why did this God wait over 100,000 years to communicate with only a
minuscule portion of humanity in such a crude and ineffective manner and
then not directly communicate any more for an additional 2,000 years?
He supposedly went through this torture and humiliating death to pay for
mans sins which he himself created! Why did he not just wave his wand and
forgive mans sins and skip all the ridiculous blood and gore??? Why did he
create sin in the first place? This should be no problem for a god that
created Adam from dust and Eve from Adam's rib.
Why does he encourage or permit Christians to drink his blood and eat his
flesh? Isn't this a pagan ritual?
Why does he continue to allow thousands of greedy self serving men to
deliver his word to his flock in such a vague, inconsistent, contradictory,
and ineffectual manner? There are hundreds of different Christian sects and
beliefs. There are thousands of different religious and god beliefs and
practices. Why does he allow this gross confusion? Why does he not
communicate clearly and DIRECTLY to his entire flock that he is the real god
and all the others are fakes? It would be nice and more effective to
eliminate this gross confusion?
If he is the real god, why does he even permit the belief and propagation of
thousands of false gods and false religions?
The Christ tale is obviously pure myth and legend.
The objective evidence is that God did not create man but quite the
contrary; that man created Gods!
.

User: "Nog"

Title: Re: THE JESUS MYTH 20 Apr 2006 06:23:11 PM
Bill wrote:

The Jesus story is totally implausible if not down right ridiculous. It is
not supported by any solid objective verifiable evidence. Should we
believe in a god for whom there is NO solid objective evidence? That is
why this belief is based purely on faith in totally implausible stories,
not factual objective verifiable evidence.



The Bibles were written recopied and modified by hundreds of men of
unknown veracity and honesty over 2,000 years ago. There are NO originals
in existence.



The Bibles are nothing more than myths, fables, contradictions and
impossible tales.



This all powerful God supposedly created this huge Universe that is over
13 BILLION years old. What it was and how long it existed before, we
simply do not know. Any opinion before that 13 BILLION years is pure
opinion and speculation.



The Universe is more than 20 BILLION LIGHT YEARS" in diameter (light
travels at 86,000 miles per SECOND). How much larger it is we just simply
don't know. It consists of many trillions of stars and planets. The earth
is less than a speck of dust in this huge Universe. There are over 6 1/2
BILLION humans on this earth at present. Many billions more have existed
before now but have died. Man is but a grain of sand on a large beach
relative to the size of the Earth. Why would the creator of this huge
complex Universe be concerned about these billions of specks of dust?



According to the Bible, God supposedly created the heavens, the earth and
everything in it in six days. Adam, the original man was created during
this time from 'dust'. His mate, Eve was created from one of Adam's ribs.



According to the Bibles this all powerful omnipotent God supposedly
created all of this in six days!



This God supposedly came to earth over 2,000 years ago as a man named
Jesus to save mankind from the sins that God himself created and to preach
his wishes and commands. Archeological evidence indicates modern man has
existed approximately 100,000 years. Why did god wait all those years to
come to earth to preach his word and pay for man's sins (which he himself
created!)?



This all powerful creator of the Universe supposedly came to Earth as a
baby in a manger, in the middle of winter and was born of a virgin called
Mary.



If Jesus was supposedly born of a Virgin Mary and she was the wife of
Joseph, why was she still a virgin? Why did the women need to be married
to a mortal in order to give birth to a god? And why couldn't this all
powerful god creator just come to earth in what ever form he chose to
create? He supposedly created the Universe and everything in it!



If he could create Adam instantly from dust and Eve from a rib, why did he
use this slow tortuous means to create himself as a god man on earth???



He supposedly grew up as a normal child and worked as a carpenter as an
adult. There are no details in the Bibles about his younger years except
working as a carpenter. After about THIRTY YEARS he abandoned his
carpentry and announced to the local inhabitants that he was Jesus the God
savior sent from heaven to tell them God's wishes and commands.



There are NO records of Jesus', (the Christ) actual existence in the non
religious documents of the era. Depending upon which Bible story you
choose, he it is claimed he preached his doctrines for one, two or three
years. In any case, why put himself on earth for some thirty
inconsequential years and only use a few of these years to preach his
doctrines? And then not use his omnipotent power to preach to the WHOLE
world instead of just a miniscule part of the world around Jerusalem?



Jesus was baptized. In Christianity, baptism is the sacrament of
regeneration and initiation into the Christian church. According to a
theme of St. Paul the Apostle, baptism is death to a former life and the
emergence of a new person, signified by the conferring of a new name; it
is the total annulment of the sins of one's past, from which one emerges a
totally innocent person. Then why would a 'God Jesus' need to be baptized?



His sermons and teachings only reached a miniscule part of the world
population at that time because he did not speak via International Radio
or TV. IF he was an ALL powerful creator of the world, he certainly would
have had the ability to speak to ALL of mankind by means at least as
effective as man. Why did this all powerful god creator wait 100,000 years
to come and preach to only a very small segment of the world, for a period
of at most three years, and then leave us without ANY solid objective
evidence of his existence, his wishes and commands? Why did he not
preserve his teachings in some permanent form for all of mankind in the
future? There are NO originals of the Bibles. They are all hand copies of
copies etc. of unknown actual origin.



Why did he not use his great omnipotent powers to preach to the WHOLE
world from his Heaven, instead of just preaching to an insignificant
portion of the world?? Why did he leave most of mankind totally in the
dark?



He supposedly distributed his word via books called the Bibles. Yet NONE
of the Bibles were written during his claimed time on earth. The original
Bibles were written and hand recopied more than 1500 years before the
invention of the printing press. There is no evidence that Jesus ever
wrote a word. NO ORIGINAL copies of ANY of the Bibles exist. Why did he
not preserve them? The Bibles now in existence are hand copies of copies
etc. of unknown and doubtful veracity. They are largely myths, fables,
hearsay and implausible tales. The four books of the New Testament were
written and copied over 60 years and more AFTER Jesus' supposed existence.
None of the authors could have known him directly. They are all third
person and more narratives of doubtful veracity. Why would a real god,
creator of the Universe, not arrange for the creation of clear, authentic,
contemporary and permanent copies of his word?



The Bibles are hand copied and recopied documents loaded with
contradictions, obvious myths, fables and implausible tales and
absurdities. Why would this omnipotent God, creator of this huge complex
Universe, provide his message in such a sloppy, inaccurate, unreliable,
questionable and confusing manor???



During his brief adulthood, preaching his word, he is 'claimed' to have
restored site to a few of the blind, restored mobility to a few of the
crippled and restored health to a few of the sick. Why was he so niggardly
about helping the poor, the disabled and the sick? Is this the likely
conduct of an all loving God creator?



After the one, two or three years he preached, (depending on which Bible
you believe) to only the locals. His preaching only reached a very small
part of the world's population. He did not avail himself of Radio, TV,
Telephone or the Internet. He then allowed himself to be painfully and
brutally crucified on a cross between two criminals to pay for man's sins
(which he created). If he died on the cross to save mankind, why was
mankind no better off after this supposed crucifixion than before? Was all
this blood and gore for noting?!



The Roman courts were models of order and fairness. A man was not
condemned without a trial; he was not handed to the executioner before
being found guilty. And yet we are asked to believe that an innocent man
was brought before a Roman court, where Pontius Pilate was Judge; that no
charge of wrongdoing having been brought against him, the Judge declared
that he found him innocent; but the mob shouted, "Crucify him; crucify
him!" and to please the rabble, Pilate commanded that the man whom he had
found innocent, should be delivered to the executioners to be crucified!
Also, real criminals were crucified by being 'tied' to the cross - not
nailed! What was the purpose of all this blood and gore?



If Jesus performed the wonderful miracles the New Testament describes, why
did the people want him crucified? Is it not amazing that a civilized
people would demand that a kind and loving man who went about doing good
works, who preached forgiveness, cleansed the leprous, and raised the dead
- that they could not be appeased until they had brutally crucified the
noblest benefactor of mankind? This makes NO sense!



If he could create the Universe and every thing in it, why did he not just
forgive man's sins, directly from his heaven, without all this blood and
gore? Three days after he died he supposedly rose from the dead and
returned to his heaven. Why did he wait uncomfortably in a crypt for three
days after his death and internment to return to his magnificent heaven?



What was the logic and purpose of this gruesome and painful killing? Only
a miniscule part of the worlds population at the time would be aware of
this claimed sacrifice.

Billions of people today are still not believers of this highly
implausible story. Why did he not preserve a video tape, DVD or other
permanent record of this historic episode? If man is capable of these
devices certainly a god creator should be equally or more proficient.



Why did this God wait over 100,000 years to communicate with only a
minuscule portion of humanity in such a crude and ineffective manner and
then not directly communicate any more for an additional 2,000 years?



He supposedly went through this torture and humiliating death to pay for
mans sins which he himself created! Why did he not just wave his wand and
forgive mans sins and skip all the ridiculous blood and gore??? Why did he
create sin in the first place? This should be no problem for a god that
created Adam from dust and Eve from Adam's rib.



Why does he encourage or permit Christians to drink his blood and eat his
flesh? Isn't this a pagan ritual?



Why does he continue to allow thousands of greedy self serving men to
deliver his word to his flock in such a vague, inconsistent,
contradictory, and ineffectual manner? There are hundreds of different
Christian sects and beliefs. There are thousands of different religious
and god beliefs and practices. Why does he allow this gross confusion? Why
does he not communicate clearly and DIRECTLY to his entire flock that he
is the real god
and all the others are fakes? It would be nice and more effective to
eliminate this gross confusion?



If he is the real god, why does he even permit the belief and propagation
of thousands of false gods and false religions?



The Christ tale is obviously pure myth and legend.



The objective evidence is that God did not create man but quite the
contrary; that man created Gods!

Of course, Hebrew fairy tales for children.
.


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