Religions > Bible > The Road To Virginia Tech Tragedy Started With Bible Ban
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The road to Virginia Tech tragedy started with Bible ban
Greeley Tribune ^ | 4/23/07 | Steven Grant
Posted on 04/24/2007 7:49:39 AM PDT by NorCoGOP
The tragic incident at Virginia Tech that resulted in a madman taking
more than 30 innocent lives has sparked a number of questions. Through
the answers we have learned about the background of the gunman, the
history of his firearm purchases, the emotions of students and
families, and the heroic efforts of many involved. However, the deeper
questions and overall trend patterns have been avoided. Escalation of
violence and a number of other social ills began rising in a pivotal
era and continue to grow today.
In 1961 a U.S. Supreme Court case ignored 300 years of legal precedent
and began an assault on Christianity, by banning prayer and later
other elements of Christian study from public schools. The religion of
secular humanism was protected and allowed, but Christ, prayer, the
posting of the Ten Commandments and other Christian documents were
hidden from view.
Historic writings such as George Washington's Farewell Address (which
contain specific references and warnings to America tying our success
as a nation to our commitment to Christ), his divine protection from
certain death in the French and Indian War, and various other
religiously oriented writings by the founding fathers were all but
eliminated from elementary through high school grades.
According to David Barton, perhaps the nation's leading historian
(www.wallbuilders.com), there was an immediate increase in societal
problems, including violent crime, divorce, unwed pregnancies,
dropping test scores at all academic levels, etc. But like the
elephant in the closet that nobody talks about, this has been
judiciously avoided in conversation about the Virginia Tech massacre.
The United States was clearly founded around Christianity, and every
aspect of our society (including our public education system) revolved
around it. George Washington once stated, "you do well to wish to
learn our arts and way of life, and above all the religion of Jesus
Christ." Thomas Jefferson said, "I have always said and always will
say that the studious perusal of the sacred volume will make us better
citizens."
In 1650 the first bill involving public school legislation in
Connecticut specified that public education must include the study of
Christianity. (Old Deluder Satan Act -- 1650) The Northwest Ordinance,
which provided the criteria by which states could be admitted into the
Union, stated in article three that public schools were required to
teach religion and morality. This was a mandate as criteria for
statehood.
Dr. Benjamin Rush, signer of the Declaration of Independence, founder
of Pennsylvania Hospital, and the father of public education in the
United States, wrote a book titled "A Defense of the Use of the Bible
in Schools." In it, he advocated the Bible be the preferred textbook
in all public schools, providing 15 different arguments for its use.
The evidence connecting Christianity and all life in America and
education goes on and on. However, this history was ignored in 1961,
and we are now reaping the consequences.
The shooter at Virginia Tech was a madman. However, he had also been
raised on a solid diet of secular humanism which teaches no moral
absolutes. "If it feels good, do it," is one of the many mantras he
ingested. Consequently he did what felt good, and innocent people died
as a result. Today, we cannot condemn his actions unless we judge what
we fed him as a society. What we sow, we also reap. And we will
continue to have a bloody harvest until we return to what we know
worked to make America great as a nation in the generations before us;
the culture, training, and absolute morality of the Christian faith
and our Savior Jesus Christ.
Steven Grant is senior pastor of Destiny Christian Center in Greeley
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02 May 2007 02:02:35 PM |
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In article <1178057914.877575.216050@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrumpet@emailaccount.com> writes:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1822626/posts
The road to Virginia Tech tragedy started with Bible ban
Greeley Tribune ^ | 4/23/07 | Steven Grant
Posted on 04/24/2007 7:49:39 AM PDT by NorCoGOP
The tragic incident at Virginia Tech that resulted in a madman taking
more than 30 innocent lives has sparked a number of questions. Through
the answers we have learned about the background of the gunman, the
history of his firearm purchases, the emotions of students and
families, and the heroic efforts of many involved. However, the deeper
questions and overall trend patterns have been avoided. Escalation of
violence and a number of other social ills began rising in a pivotal
era and continue to grow today.
In 1961 a U.S. Supreme Court case ignored 300 years of legal precedent
and began an assault on Christianity, by banning prayer and later
other elements of Christian study from public schools. The religion of
secular humanism was protected and allowed, but Christ, prayer, the
posting of the Ten Commandments and other Christian documents were
hidden from view.
Historic writings such as George Washington's Farewell Address (which
contain specific references and warnings to America tying our success
as a nation to our commitment to Christ), his divine protection from
certain death in the French and Indian War, and various other
religiously oriented writings by the founding fathers were all but
eliminated from elementary through high school grades.
According to David Barton, perhaps the nation's leading historian
(www.wallbuilders.com), there was an immediate increase in societal
problems, including violent crime, divorce, unwed pregnancies,
dropping test scores at all academic levels, etc. But like the
elephant in the closet that nobody talks about, this has been
judiciously avoided in conversation about the Virginia Tech massacre.
The United States was clearly founded around Christianity, and every
aspect of our society (including our public education system) revolved
around it. George Washington once stated, "you do well to wish to
learn our arts and way of life, and above all the religion of Jesus
Christ." Thomas Jefferson said, "I have always said and always will
say that the studious perusal of the sacred volume will make us better
citizens."
That would be the same Thomas Jefferson who said that Paul
was the leading corrupter of the teachings of Jesus? The
same TeeJay who took a razor to his New Testament and sliced
out all the bits he thought were impossible?
Dang! Maybe we *should* teach more about him in school.
In 1650 the first bill involving public school legislation in
Connecticut specified that public education must include the study of
Christianity. (Old Deluder Satan Act -- 1650) The Northwest Ordinance,
which provided the criteria by which states could be admitted into the
Union, stated in article three that public schools were required to
teach religion and morality. This was a mandate as criteria for
statehood.
Dr. Benjamin Rush, signer of the Declaration of Independence, founder
of Pennsylvania Hospital, and the father of public education in the
United States, wrote a book titled "A Defense of the Use of the Bible
in Schools." In it, he advocated the Bible be the preferred textbook
in all public schools, providing 15 different arguments for its use.
The evidence connecting Christianity and all life in America and
education goes on and on. However, this history was ignored in 1961,
and we are now reaping the consequences.
Yep. Doctor Rush also handed out opium for "nervousness", emectics
for cleansing, and laxatives containing 50% mercury. Oh, and he
taught that "negroism" was a hereditary disease, which "attempts
must be made to cure".
And then there was that therapy for mental illness which involved
tying the patient to a board and spinning it rapidly til blood
rushed to his head.
Moral: character cannot replace learning gained through
experience, either for a person or for a nation. Idolatry
of the Flounders is not the way to improve our system
of government.
-- cary
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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02 May 2007 01:47:35 PM |
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In article <1178057914.877575.216050@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrumpet@emailaccount.com> writes:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1822626/posts
The road to Virginia Tech tragedy started with Bible ban
Greeley Tribune ^ | 4/23/07 | Steven Grant
Posted on 04/24/2007 7:49:39 AM PDT by NorCoGOP
The tragic incident at Virginia Tech that resulted in a madman taking
more than 30 innocent lives has sparked a number of questions. Through
the answers we have learned about the background of the gunman, the
history of his firearm purchases, the emotions of students and
families, and the heroic efforts of many involved. However, the deeper
questions and overall trend patterns have been avoided. Escalation of
violence and a number of other social ills began rising in a pivotal
era and continue to grow today.
In 1961 a U.S. Supreme Court case ignored 300 years of legal precedent
and began an assault on Christianity, by banning prayer and later
other elements of Christian study from public schools. The religion of
secular humanism was protected and allowed, but Christ, prayer, the
posting of the Ten Commandments and other Christian documents were
hidden from view.
Historic writings such as George Washington's Farewell Address (which
contain specific references and warnings to America tying our success
as a nation to our commitment to Christ), his divine protection from
certain death in the French and Indian War, and various other
religiously oriented writings by the founding fathers were all but
eliminated from elementary through high school grades.
According to David Barton, perhaps the nation's leading historian
Excuse me? David Barton? DAVID BARTON?
Well, okay, maybe..in the same sense that Kent Hovind is
our leading paleontologist.
-- cary
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| User: "Diogenes" |
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01 May 2007 08:52:16 AM |
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Lying Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrumpet@emailaccount.com> lied in message
<1178057914.877575.216050@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>
In 1961 a U.S. Supreme Court case ignored 300 years of legal precedent
and began an assault on Christianity, by banning prayer
Stop lying. Prayer has never been banned in public schools, not in 1961, not
ever. The 1961 ruling simply stated that the school can not endorse a specific
religion by holding sectarian prayers in their school functions. Students can
pray on their own all they want in public schools.
--
If I was in charge of the universe, St Jude's
Hospital for Children would not need to exist
Posted with JSNewsreader Preview 0.9.7.3294
[ Followup-To: alt.bible ]
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| User: "Bill Smith" |
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02 May 2007 12:04:33 PM |
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On 1 May 2007 15:18:34 -0700, Sound of Trumpet
<soundoftrumpet@emailaccount.com> wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1822626/posts
The road to Virginia Tech tragedy started with Bible ban
The Bible has not been banned.
Prayer in school hasn't been banned either, all you have to do is
listen to kids getting ready to take a test.
What really annoys you the most, though, is that the SCOTUS ruled that
no one in school can be forced to pray to your God.
Bill Smith
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| User: "Hatter" |
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02 May 2007 01:07:48 PM |
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On May 2, 1:04 pm, Bill Smith <quand...@newsguy.com> wrote:
On 1 May 2007 15:18:34 -0700, Sound of Trumpet
<soundoftrum...@emailaccount.com> wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1822626/posts
The road to Virginia Tech tragedy started with Bible ban
The Bible has not been banned.
Yeah, I mean only a theist nut could start off with this obviously
false premise.
And no less even if it was true, still does not reach that conclusion.
Even for SOT, this particular article spins off into the never nerver
land of ignoring facts, logic, good taste, reason, fairness, all
because you so desperately want to villify your oppenent unlike few
I've seen this side of a North Korean Propoganda Release.
Hatter
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01 May 2007 09:24:48 PM |
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On 1 May 2007 15:18:34 -0700, Sound of Trumpet
<soundoftrumpet@emailaccount.com> wrote:
Announcer: "Good evening ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another
edition of "Name That Fallacy". For our first toss-up tonight, we
have:
The road to Virginia Tech tragedy started with Bible ban"
<Buzz>
"Yes, raven1?"
"That would be the fallacy of "Post hoc, ergo propter hoc"
<Ding Ding Ding Ding!>
"Right for $200"!
<cut to commercial>
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"O Sybilli, si ergo
Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"
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01 May 2007 05:26:24 PM |
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On May 1, 3:18 pm, Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@emailaccount.com>
wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1822626/posts
The road to Virginia Tech tragedy started with Bible ban
The "road" to the Virginia Tech tragedy started with paranoid
schizophrenia, SOT. There's no cure for schizophrenia in the Bible.
It's a chemical imbalance in the brain.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes at dakotacom dot net
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| User: "satyr" |
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01 May 2007 06:34:24 PM |
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On 1 May 2007 15:26:24 -0700, skyeyes <skyeyes@dakotacom.net> wrote:
On May 1, 3:18 pm, Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@emailaccount.com>
wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1822626/posts
The road to Virginia Tech tragedy started with Bible ban
The "road" to the Virginia Tech tragedy started with paranoid
schizophrenia, SOT. There's no cure for schizophrenia in the Bible.
It's a chemical imbalance in the brain.
But schizophrenics nearly always have religious delusions. Of course,
90% of the population has religious delusions.
--
satyr #1953
Chairman, EAC Church Taxation Subcommittee
Director, Gideon Bible Alternative Fuel Project
Supervisor, EAC Fossil Casting Lab
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| User: "skyeyes" |
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02 May 2007 12:26:40 PM |
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On May 1, 4:34 pm, satyr <RsEaMtOy...@infidels.org> wrote:
On 1 May 2007 15:26:24 -0700, skyeyes <skye...@dakotacom.net> wrote:
On May 1, 3:18 pm, Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@emailaccount.com>
wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1822626/posts
The road to Virginia Tech tragedy started with Bible ban
The "road" to the Virginia Tech tragedy started with paranoid
schizophrenia, SOT. There's no cure for schizophrenia in the Bible.
It's a chemical imbalance in the brain.
But schizophrenics nearly always have religious delusions. Of course,
90% of the population has religious delusions.
This is true, but the religious delusion doesn't cause the
schizophrenia, it's merely a symptom of the disorder.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feliine Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes at dakotacom dot net
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| User: "Syd M." |
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02 May 2007 03:31:28 PM |
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On May 1, 7:34 pm, satyr <RsEaMtOy...@infidels.org> wrote:
On 1 May 2007 15:26:24 -0700, skyeyes <skye...@dakotacom.net> wrote:
On May 1, 3:18 pm, Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@emailaccount.com>
wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1822626/posts
The road to Virginia Tech tragedy started with Bible ban
The "road" to the Virginia Tech tragedy started with paranoid
schizophrenia, SOT. There's no cure for schizophrenia in the Bible.
It's a chemical imbalance in the brain.
But schizophrenics nearly always have religious delusions. Of course,
90% of the population has religious delusions.
May I also point out that most people with schizophrenia are not
violent, unless they get severely phychotic.
It's a myth that mentally ill people are more violent then, say, the
average fundimentalist.
PDW
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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01 May 2007 10:50:20 PM |
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satyr wrote:
On 1 May 2007 15:26:24 -0700, skyeyes <skyeyes@dakotacom.net> wrote:
On May 1, 3:18 pm, Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@emailaccount.com>
wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1822626/posts
The road to Virginia Tech tragedy started with Bible ban
The "road" to the Virginia Tech tragedy started with paranoid
schizophrenia, SOT. There's no cure for schizophrenia in the Bible.
It's a chemical imbalance in the brain.
But schizophrenics nearly always have religious delusions. Of course,
90% of the population has religious delusions.
===>One of them, called Sau/Paul, is the founder of the cult of Christ
(a deity he called Lord Christos). He had visions and hallucinations and
claimed that "Christos" was living inside him. -- L.
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Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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| User: "Benj" |
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01 May 2007 07:17:50 PM |
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skyeyes wrote:
The road to Virginia Tech tragedy started with Bible ban
The "road" to the Virginia Tech tragedy started with paranoid
schizophrenia, SOT. There's no cure for schizophrenia in the Bible.
It's a chemical imbalance in the brain.
Well actually there is a "cure". In fact there are TWO cures! There is
the expensive one. Which is that VT, the courts, all officials and
everyone coming in contract with this guy could have taken some
personal responsibility to see that he got some real help. I will
note that taking responsibility for the problems of your fellow humans
is ALSO the "cure" recommended by the Bible as well.
And then there is the 25 cent "cure". This was the one backed by the
NRA but adamantly opposed by VT officials who crowed loudly when the
measure failed. I am of course talking about concealed carry on
campus. The "gun-free zone" made everyone feel safe, (and we all know
"feelings" are THE most important thing in life!) but unfortunately,
didn't actually make the 30-some victims safe. But oddly enough, Cho
himself also chose the 25 cent "cure" and proved one more time that it
is quite effective!
So I guess the real question here was only if the "cure" should have
been applied before or after 31 college students (NOT "children")
died? I believe most of the loudest persons here are voting for
"after" and nobody at all is voting for the biblical cure.
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| User: "skyeyes" |
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02 May 2007 12:33:23 PM |
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On May 1, 5:17 pm, Benj <bjac...@iwaynet.net> wrote:
skyeyes wrote:
The road to Virginia Tech tragedy started with Bible ban
The "road" to the Virginia Tech tragedy started with paranoid
schizophrenia, SOT. There's no cure for schizophrenia in the Bible.
It's a chemical imbalance in the brain.
Well actually there is a "cure". In fact there are TWO cures! There is
the expensive one. Which is that VT, the courts, all officials and
everyone coming in contract with this guy could have taken some
personal responsibility to see that he got some real help.
No quarrel with that. However, his English professor *did* send him
for help. Problem is, we have the notion in this country that
schizophrenics ought to have the "right" to refuse treatment. I know
somebunny is gonna take away my "Liberal" ID card for this, but I
think that people who are diagnosed mentally ill should be compelled
to take their meds *or* be confined to an institution where their
delusional behavior can ben coped with by professionals.
I will
note that taking responsibility for the problems of your fellow humans
is ALSO the "cure" recommended by the Bible as well.
Also have no quarrel with "I am my brother's keeper," within limits.
And then there is the 25 cent "cure". This was the one backed by the
NRA but adamantly opposed by VT officials who crowed loudly when the
measure failed. I am of course talking about concealed carry on
campus. The "gun-free zone" made everyone feel safe, (and we all know
"feelings" are THE most important thing in life!) but unfortunately,
didn't actually make the 30-some victims safe. But oddly enough, Cho
himself also chose the 25 cent "cure" and proved one more time that it
is quite effective!
Yeah, allow college kids to carry concealed weapons on campus.
Nothing makes me feel more secure than the notion of drunken frat boys
carrying guns *just* *in* *case* somebody has a psychotic break and
tries to shoot up your dorm. <eyeroll>
If you believe that is a good thin, *you* should be on psychiatric
meds.
So I guess the real question here was only if the "cure" should have
been applied before or after 31 college students (NOT "children")
died? I believe most of the loudest persons here are voting for
"after" and nobody at all is voting for the biblical cure.
There *is* no "Biblical cure." There's common sense, and modern
neuropsychiatric medicine.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes at dakotacom dot net
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| User: "Syd M." |
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02 May 2007 03:36:53 PM |
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On May 2, 1:33 pm, skyeyes <skye...@dakotacom.net> wrote:
On May 1, 5:17 pm, Benj <bjac...@iwaynet.net> wrote:
skyeyes wrote:
The road to Virginia Tech tragedy started with Bible ban
The "road" to the Virginia Tech tragedy started with paranoid
schizophrenia, SOT. There's no cure for schizophrenia in the Bible.
It's a chemical imbalance in the brain.
Well actually there is a "cure". In fact there are TWO cures! There is
the expensive one. Which is that VT, the courts, all officials and
everyone coming in contract with this guy could have taken some
personal responsibility to see that he got some real help.
No quarrel with that. However, his English professor *did* send him
for help. Problem is, we have the notion in this country that
schizophrenics ought to have the "right" to refuse treatment. I know
somebunny is gonna take away my "Liberal" ID card for this, but I
think that people who are diagnosed mentally ill should be compelled
to take their meds *or* be confined to an institution where their
delusional behavior can ben coped with by professionals.
What if said mentally ill person doesn't take his meds, but also is
not psychotic enough to warrent incarseration?
Are advocating stuffing those pills down a stable mentally ill
person's throut?
I will
note that taking responsibility for the problems of your fellow humans
is ALSO the "cure" recommended by the Bible as well.
Also have no quarrel with "I am my brother's keeper," within limits.
And then there is the 25 cent "cure". This was the one backed by the
NRA but adamantly opposed by VT officials who crowed loudly when the
measure failed. I am of course talking about concealed carry on
campus. The "gun-free zone" made everyone feel safe, (and we all know
"feelings" are THE most important thing in life!) but unfortunately,
didn't actually make the 30-some victims safe. But oddly enough, Cho
himself also chose the 25 cent "cure" and proved one more time that it
is quite effective!
Yeah, allow college kids to carry concealed weapons on campus.
Nothing makes me feel more secure than the notion of drunken frat boys
carrying guns *just* *in* *case* somebody has a psychotic break and
tries to shoot up your dorm. <eyeroll>
Heh. Too true, this I agree with.
If you believe that is a good thin, *you* should be on psychiatric
meds.
So I guess the real question here was only if the "cure" should have
been applied before or after 31 college students (NOT "children")
died? I believe most of the loudest persons here are voting for
"after" and nobody at all is voting for the biblical cure.
There *is* no "Biblical cure." There's common sense, and modern
neuropsychiatric medicine.
Too bad all they see is thier own nose..
PDW
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| User: "Neil Kelsey" |
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02 May 2007 11:34:38 AM |
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On May 1, 5:17 pm, Benj <bjac...@iwaynet.net> wrote:
skyeyes wrote:
The road to Virginia Tech tragedy started with Bible ban
The "road" to the Virginia Tech tragedy started with paranoid
schizophrenia, SOT. There's no cure for schizophrenia in the Bible.
It's a chemical imbalance in the brain.
Well actually there is a "cure". In fact there are TWO cures! There is
the expensive one. Which is that VT, the courts, all officials and
everyone coming in contract with this guy could have taken some
personal responsibility to see that he got some real help. I will
note that taking responsibility for the problems of your fellow humans
is ALSO the "cure" recommended by the Bible as well.
Idiot. The guy was schizophrenic. That's a disease. The Bible only
makes things worse. I knew a guy who was schizophrenic and came from a
devout Christian family. The family were too ignorant to attribute his
behaviour to schizophrenia, they tried to treat him through prayer,
which just made it worse. He got the idea that his family were in
danger from the Devil so one afternoon he killed his five brother and
sister and his parents. Some "cure."
Remaining ignorant, like you are advocating, only insures that this
type of incident will keep repeating itself. Scizophrenia can be
treated with medication. Religion and schizophrenia is a deadly
combination.
And then there is the 25 cent "cure". This was the one backed by the
NRA but adamantly opposed by VT officials who crowed loudly when the
measure failed. I am of course talking about concealed carry on
campus. The "gun-free zone" made everyone feel safe, (and we all know
"feelings" are THE most important thing in life!) but unfortunately,
didn't actually make the 30-some victims safe. But oddly enough, Cho
himself also chose the 25 cent "cure" and proved one more time that it
is quite effective!
So I guess the real question here was only if the "cure" should have
been applied before or after 31 college students (NOT "children")
died? I believe most of the loudest persons here are voting for
"after" and nobody at all is voting for the biblical cure.
That's because the Biblical "cure" is one of the causes.
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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01 May 2007 11:29:27 PM |
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One fine day in alt.atheism, Sound of Trumpet
<soundoftrumpet@emailaccount.com> bloodied us up with this:
The road to Virginia Tech tragedy started with Bible ban
Idiot christer speculation, nothing more. The VT tragedy was caused by yet
another emotionally disturbed, persecuted nerd. Just like Columbine.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Convicted by Earthquack. Plonked by Fester.
Member Duke Spanking Club.
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| User: "Diogenes" |
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01 May 2007 08:48:39 AM |
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Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrumpet@emailaccount.com> wrote in message
<1178057914.877575.216050@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>
The shooter at Virginia Tech was a madman. However, he had also been
raised on a solid diet of secular humanism which teaches no moral
absolutes. "If it feels good, do it," is one of the many mantras he
ingested. Consequently he did what felt good, and innocent people died
as a result. Today, we cannot condemn his actions unless we judge what
we fed him as a society. What we sow, we also reap.
No, he was raised by devout Christian parents, not secular humanists. To blame
secular humanism for what happened at Virginia Tech is totally reprehensible
and immoral.
--
If I was in charge of the universe, St Jude's
Hospital for Children would not need to exist
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| User: "Woden" |
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| Title: Re: The Road To Virginia Tech Tragedy Started With Bible Ban |
01 May 2007 07:16:09 PM |
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"Diogenes" <no@spam.com> wrote in
news:4637d1da$0$19389$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrumpet@emailaccount.com> wrote in message
<1178057914.877575.216050@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>
The shooter at Virginia Tech was a madman. However, he had also been
raised on a solid diet of secular humanism which teaches no moral
absolutes. "If it feels good, do it," is one of the many mantras he
ingested. Consequently he did what felt good, and innocent people
died as a result. Today, we cannot condemn his actions unless we
judge what we fed him as a society. What we sow, we also reap.
No, he was raised by devout Christian parents, not secular humanists.
To blame secular humanism for what happened at Virginia Tech is
totally reprehensible and immoral.
Well, what you expect from a fundy idiot like "sound.." except
reprehensible and immoral?
--
Woden
"religion is a socio-political system for controlling people's thoughts,
lives and actions based on ancient myths and superstitions, perpetrated
through generations of subtle yet pervasive brainwashing."
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| User: "Bill Dunkenfield" |
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| Title: Re: The Road To Virginia Tech Tragedy Started With Bible Ban |
02 May 2007 10:56:10 AM |
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Sound of Trumpet wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1822626/posts
The road to Virginia Tech tragedy started with Bible ban
You are a sick individual trying to use this tragedy to advance your
ignorant and corrupt religious beliefs.
JAM
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