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"Peace Crusader" |
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25 May 2006 06:31:45 AM |
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The truth about Jesus and Mary Magdalene |
My Dear Fellowmen,
This is the translation to English of the unedited transcript of our
session with the Father, who we call Ama in the Pilipino language, on
Sunday, April 17, 2005 at Baliwag, Bulacan, Philippines. It is about
the relationship of Jesus and Mary Magdalene.
Aristeo Fernando: Father, about Mary Magdalene. Let's go back and
talk about Mary Magdalene. It is said that there was a relationship
between Jesus and Mary Magdalene according to the, what is that, Da
Vinci Code?
Alvara Cabalda: There is group now, Father. This was revealed in the
sermon of the Monsignor earlier this morning at the town's big
(Catholic) Church. We had goose flesh. I said to myself, 'What is
that?' But he seemed to allay the doubts of the people. Everybody
laughed. 'Do not believe that,' the Monsignor said, Father.
Aristeo: I see! Not to believe that it is true?
Alvara: It is not true. It is clear. Who ...?
Anita Perez: Mary Magdalene pleaded for mercy at the feet of the Lord
Jesus that is why she poured fragrance to the feet of the Father as
repentance of her sins.
Alvara: They are defaming Father. That is what is clear.
Aristeo: What did really happen then, Father? Why did Mary Magdalene
repent?
Father: She repented of her deeds.
Aristeo: What did Mary Magdalene repent of?
Father: Those deeds that she had done.
Aristeo: That Mary Magdalene did?
Father: Yes.
Aristeo: Are they sins? Because based on my understanding of what You
said last Good Friday (three weeks earlier) when we talked to You, Mary
Magdalene was very beautiful that she was able to seduce men easily.
Father: Correct.
Aristeo: Why did she seduce men?
Father: Because that was her work.
Anita: That was her livelihood.
Aristeo: I see! Was she after the wealth of the men?
Father: Not really?
Aristeo: I see! It is not only the money of the men but sexual desire
....
Father: Yes.
Aristeo: Sexual pleasure.
Father: Yes.
Manuel de la Cruz: Father, isn't it that in the film, something like
that was made? Did she seduce You also?
Father: Yes, correct.
Anita: Yes, she seduced the Father.
Manuel: She seduced You?
Father: Yes.
Manuel: That is why that became also the example to writers, and they
expanded that talk. You came into this world really as a human being
and what You did only was to become the Savior. That is why if one
ponders on it further, it will just create great disturbance to
everyone's mind now. That is misleading because they are defaming
You.
Father: Correct.
Manuel: In the eyes of men.
Father: Correct.
Manuel: To the hearing of people who know about that book that came
out.
Father: Correct.
Manuel: That is why the more that they are misleading the people.
They are trying to make them more distant from You.
Father: Correct.
Aristeo: Father, what did Jesus do to avoid the seduction of Mary
Magdalene?
Father: (Incomprehensible. Something like it needs to be explained.)
Aristeo: It is a lengthy explanation?
Father: It is just short.
Aristeo: Why? What did Jesus do so that He could avoid that?
Father: I told her what I want to do in this world, (pause) that she
believed it.
Aristeo: I see. So, that is the reason why Mary Magdalene became one
of Your zealous followers. That is why until the time You were nailed
on the cross and buried, she was a zealous follower.
Father: Correct.
Aristeo: She was the one who bought the spices that would be placed on
Your corpse. When did she buy them? Then ... Did you preach Sunday to
really be the Sabbath or the day of rest of Your followers?
Father: Correct.
Aristeo: I see.
Ray Bautista: Father, You said, Mary Magdalene seduced You. Were You
seduced by Mary Magdalene?
Father: No.
Anita: What did You do so that Mary Magdalene failed in seducing You?
(The Father was not able to answer Anita because Ray immediately
followed up his question.)
Ray: Why I have asked that is because two weeks ago before I came to
the Philippines (from San Francisco, California), I heard on TV that
there were scriptures that came out within 500 years from Your death.
They did not want these to come out but they are bringing these out now
and they say that You had a relationship with Mary Magdalene.
Father: There is none.
Ray: Thank you. That is what they are bringing out. The Pope, the
Church at Saint Peter (in Rome), when they learned about it, they
closed those scriptures and did not include them in the Bible. That is
what is coming out of history. Thank You for Your explanation.
Manuel: They are really defaming You, Father.
Crescencia Dalangin: Therefore, Father, the work of the Devil is
really becoming widespread. Is that how it is? Spreading?
(Several people began talking that the Father was not able to answer
Crescencia's question. Then it turned to another topic.)
Direct from the horse's mouth, so to speak, the following facts are
revealed based on the responses of the Father, who the listeners
believe to be the spirit of Jesus:
1. Mary Magdalene was very beautiful.
2. Mary Magdalene seduced men not necessarily for their money but for
her own sexual desire or sexual pleasure.
3. The work of Mary Magdalene was to seduce men.
4. Mary Magdalene tried to seduce Jesus.
5. Jesus was not seduced by Mary Magdalene.
6. There was no (sexual) relationship between Mary Magdalene and
Jesus.
7. Mary Magdalene repented of her deeds.
8. Jesus, in order to avoid the seduction of Mary Magdalene, told her
what He wanted to do in this world that she believed.
9. Mary Magdalene was a zealous follower of Jesus.
10. Jesus preached the observance of Sabbath on Sunday to His
followers.
11. The book (and now the movie) The Da Vinci Code is defaming Jesus.
In 2005, it was only the controversial book that came out. Now, in May
2006, the controversial movie has also come out.
Please note that there were six people who asked questions to the
Father (in their order): Aristeo Fernando, Alvara Cabalda, Anita Perez,
Manuel de la Cruz, Ray Bautista, and Crescencia Perez.
The holy spirit who the group talks to is Jesus Christ. The group
calls the spirit, Ama, the Pilipino word for father, or God the Father
when capitalized.
It is now your decision who to believe and listen to: to our fellow
human beings or to the Spirit. Remember, in the book of Revelation,
repeatedly, it says, "He that hath an ear, let him hear what the
Spirit saith unto the churches."
The true God be with us now and forever.
With love, your brother in Jesus,
Aristeo Canlas Fernando, Peace Crusader
Motto: pro aris et focis
http://www.geocities.com/peacecrusader888/
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| User: "Peace Crusader" |
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| Title: Re: The truth about Jesus and Mary Magdalene |
26 May 2006 04:48:42 AM |
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My Dear Fellowmen,
Which do you think is the right story: the one portrayed in the movie
The Da Vinci Code or the one revealed by the Holy Spirit?
The Da Vinci Code was said to be a work of fiction as, if I heard it
correctly, admitted by its author.
What I am presenting to you is the revelation of Jesus Himself, as a
spirit now.
I hope this settles the question of what is true and what is not.
The peace of the true God be with us now and always.
With love, your brother in Jesus,
Aristeo Canlas Fernando, Peace Crusader
Motto: pro aris et focis
http://www.geocities.com/peacecrusader888/
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| User: "John Jacobson" |
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| Title: Re: The truth about Jesus and Mary Magdalene |
26 May 2006 08:07:33 AM |
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Peace Crusader <acfernando@hotmail.com> wrote in message
<1148636922.125363.200460@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>
The Da Vinci Code was said to be a work of fiction as, if I heard it
correctly, admitted by its author.
The stuff about Mary Magdalene and Jesus wasn't created by the author though.
He drew on prior legends that claim Jesus had a family, legends that are as old
as the gospel legends.
What I am presenting to you is the revelation of Jesus Himself, as a
spirit now.
I hope this settles the question of what is true and what is not.
No, all you are presenting is what YOU believe. That does not trump the
supposedly true basis of the Da Vinci Code.
--
***Free Your Mind***
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| User: "Peace Crusader" |
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| Title: Re: The truth about Jesus and Mary Magdalene |
09 Jun 2006 06:02:24 AM |
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Dear John and my Fellowmen,
John wrote:
The Da Vinci Code was said to be a work of fiction as, if I heard it
correctly, admitted by its author.
The stuff about Mary Magdalene and Jesus wasn't created by the author
though.
He drew on prior legends that claim Jesus had a family, legends that
are as old
as the gospel legends.
My reply:
Well, the legends that claim Jesus was married to Mary Magdalene and
had a family have been debunked with the revelation of the Holy Spirit.
Who shall we believe: the Holy Spirit or our fellowmen who made
speculations into legends?
John wrote:
No, all you are presenting is what YOU believe. That does not trump the
supposedly true basis of the Da Vinci Code.
My reply:
Do you think what I presented is what I believe? I assure you that I
cannot make up such stories. What I did was present the transcript of
our session with the Holy Spirit in April 2005. It is your decision to
make up your mind based on your evaluation of what the Holy Spirit
said. No one is forcing you to believe what the Holy Spirit said.
The peace of the true God be with us now and always.
With love, your brother in Jesus,
Aristeo Canlas Fernando, Peace Crusader
Motto: pro aris et focis
http://www.geocities.com/peacecrusader888/
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