Religions > Bible > The United States is founded on the Bible and Christian Ethics.
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04 Oct 2007 08:42:09 AM |
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The United States is founded on the Bible and Christian Ethics. |
Recived a private email from someone. They state:
"The United States is founded on the Bible and Christian Ethics.
Nothing less can be tolerated and we must do everything in our power
to see that the will of our founding fathers, men of great Christian
beliefs, be carried to the limit."
I do know God was in the details to a point, but think some of the
founding fathers were not exactly Christians.
What do you say with reference to how the US was founded?
Is this persons statement generally correct?
Take care,
V (Male)
Agnostic Freethinker
Practical Philosopher
AA#2
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| User: "Ken" |
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| Title: Re: The United States is founded on the Bible and Christian Ethics. |
04 Oct 2007 09:26:04 AM |
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On Oct 4, 6:42 am, V <vf...@aol.com> wrote:
Recived a private email from someone. They state:
"The United States is founded on the Bible and Christian Ethics.
Nothing less can be tolerated and we must do everything in our power
to see that the will of our founding fathers, men of great Christian
beliefs, be carried to the limit."
I do know God was in the details to a point, but think some of the
founding fathers were not exactly Christians.
What do you say with reference to how the US was founded?
Is this persons statement generally correct?
Take care,
V (Male)
Agnostic Freethinker
Practical Philosopher
AA#2
Generally INCORRECT
"The United States is in no sense founded upon the Christian
doctrine." George Washington
"As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense
founded on the Christian Religion ..." from the Treaty of Tripoli,
signed by John Adams, June 10, 1797.
More at: http://www.tylwythteg.com/enemies/enemies.html
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| User: "V" |
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| Title: Re: The United States is founded on the Bible and Christian Ethics. |
04 Oct 2007 05:34:03 PM |
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On Oct 4, 10:26?am, Ken <flakey...@aol.com> wrote:
On Oct 4, 6:42 am, V <vf...@aol.com> wrote:
Recived a private email from someone. They state:
"The United States is founded on the Bible and Christian Ethics.
Nothing less can be tolerated and we must do everything in our power
to see that the will of our founding fathers, men of great Christian
beliefs, be carried to the limit."
I do know God was in the details to a point, but think some of the
founding fathers were not exactly Christians.
What do you say with reference to how the US was founded?
Is this persons statement generally correct?
Take care,
V (Male)
Agnostic Freethinker
Practical Philosopher
AA#2
Generally INCORRECT
"The United States is in no sense founded upon the Christian
doctrine." George Washington
"As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense
founded on the Christian Religion ..." from the Treaty of Tripoli,
signed by John Adams, June 10, 1797.
More at:http://www.tylwythteg.com/enemies/enemies.html- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Thanks
What religion if any did they subscribe to?
V
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| User: "V" |
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| Title: Re: The United States is founded on the Bible and Christian Ethics. |
04 Oct 2007 05:39:41 PM |
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On Oct 4, 9:59?am, J Forbes <jforbnos...@selectric.org> wrote:
Jim Forbes writes:
"The slaughter of the natives, and the taking of their land, seems to
have been based on the Bible and Christian Ethics".
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/477c163fa1c917f0/0a5f4cb28c1f8891?hl=en#0a5f4cb28c1f8891
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V writes:
Well, I didn't ask is the founders were 'perfect Christians' Jim...I
asked if they subscribed to Christian ethics when founding the US.
Here is the breakdown I just found:
Ennumerating the Founding Fathers
The three major foundational documents of the United States of America
are the Declaration of Independence (July 1776), the Articles of
Confederation (drafted 1777, ratified 1781) and the Constitution of
the United States of America (1789). There are a total of 143
signatures on these documents, representing 118 different signers.
(Some individuals signed more than one document.)
There were 56 signers of the Declaration of Independence. There were
48 signers of the Articles of Confederation. All 55 delegates who
participated in the Constitutional Convention of 1787 are regarded as
Founding Fathers, in fact, they are often regarded as the Founding
Fathers because it is this group that actually debated, drafted and
signed the U.S. Constitution, which is the basis for the country's
political and legal system. Only 39 delegates actually signed the
document, however, meaning there were 16 non-signing delegates -
individuals who were Constitutional Convention delegates but were not
signers of the Constitution.
There were 95 Senators and Representatives in the First Federal
Congress. If one combines the total number of signatures on the
Declaration, the Articles of Confederation and the Constitution with
the non-signing Constitutional Convention delegates, and then adds to
that sum the number of congressmen in the First Federal Congress, one
obtains a total of 238 "slots" or "positions" in these groups which
one can classify as "Founding Fathers" of the United States. Because
40 individuals had multiple roles (they signed multiple documents and/
or also served in the First Federal Congress), there are 204 unique
individuals in this group of "Founding Fathers." These are the people
who did one or more of the following:
- signed the Declaration of Independence
- signed the Articles of Confederation
- attended the Constitutional Convention of 1787
- signed the Constitution of the United States of America
- served as Senators in the First Federal Congress (1789-1791)
- served as U.S. Representatives in the First Federal Congress
The religious affiliations of these individuals are summarized below.
Obviously this is a very restrictive set of names, and does not
include everyone who could be considered an "American Founding
Father." But most of the major figures that people generally think of
in this context are included using these criteria, including George
Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Samuel Adams, Benjamin Franklin, John
Adams, John Hancock, James Madison, Alexander Hamilton and more.
Religious Affiliation
of U.S. Founding Fathers # of
Founding
Fathers % of
Founding
Fathers
Episcopalian/Anglican 88 54.7%
Presbyterian 30 18.6%
Congregationalist 27 16.8%
Quaker 7 4.3%
Dutch Reformed/German Reformed 6 3.7%
Lutheran 5 3.1%
Catholic 3 1.9%
Huguenot 3 1.9%
Unitarian 3 1.9%
Methodist 2 1.2%
Calvinist 1 0.6%
TOTAL 204
http://www.adherents.com/gov/Founding_Fathers_Religion.html
Take care,
V (Male)
Agnostic Freethinker
Practical Philosopher
AA#2
Take care,
V (Male)
Agnostic Freethinker
Practical Philosopher
AA#2
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| User: "Punjab The Sailor Man" |
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| Title: Re: The United States is founded on the Bible and Christian Ethics. |
05 Oct 2007 07:36:25 AM |
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V wrote:
Recived a private email from someone. They state:
The following is a flat out lie!
"The United States is founded on the Bible and Christian Ethics.
Nothing less can be tolerated and we must do everything in our power
to see that the will of our founding fathers, men of great Christian
beliefs, be carried to the limit."
I do know God was in the details to a point, but think some of the
founding fathers were not exactly Christians.
What do you say with reference to how the US was founded?
Is this persons statement generally correct?
Take care,
V (Male)
Agnostic Freethinker
Practical Philosopher
AA#2
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