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User: "IknowHimDoYou"
Date: 20 Nov 2003 10:50:36 AM
Object: The World is Getting Better?
The World is Getting Better?
A look around will certainly show that things are getting better in this
old world. Actually that is a lie. Only the God-haters hope that it is
getting better. Those who live in reality realize that the world is on a
steepening slope downward. Not only is the world's energy level
dropping(magnetic flux, worsening weather, global warming, oil reserves
declining, etc.) but the moral and physical condition of man is slipping
at a bounding rate. God-haters(humanists, evolutionists, democrats,
socialists and utopians) are seeing the real outcome of their stupid and
dangerous philosophies and practices all around them but they are for the
most part in denial.
These pathetic creatures are in a panic to try and remove any sembalance
of God from the earth. They, of course, will fail as they always do and
the world that they make will be their own destruction. Shouting, crying,
bombasting that man will be victorious on his own is the mantra of losers
and the damned.
There is only one way out!
I Cor 15:3-4
.

User: "_AnonCoward"

Title: Re: The World is Getting Better? 20 Nov 2003 10:51:57 AM
"IknowHimDoYou" <IknowHim@leavingsoon.com> wrote in message
news:IknowHim-2011030850360001@pm1-15.kalama.com...
: The World is Getting Better?
:
: A look around will certainly show that things are getting better in
: this old world. Actually that is a lie. Only the God-haters hope
: that it is getting better. Those who live in reality realize that
: the world is on a steepening slope downward. Not only is the world's
: energy level dropping(magnetic flux, worsening weather, global
: warming, oil reserves declining, etc.) but the moral and physical
: condition of man is slipping at a bounding rate. God-haters(humanists,
: evolutionists, democrats, socialists and utopians) are seeing the real
: outcome of their stupid and dangerous philosophies and practices all
: around them but they are for the most part in denial.
:
: These pathetic creatures are in a panic to try and remove any
: sembalance of God from the earth. They, of course, will fail as they
: always do and the world that they make will be their own destruction.
: Shouting, crying, bombasting that man will be victorious on his own is
: the mantra of losers and the damned.
:
: There is only one way out!
:
: I Cor 15:3-4
Ralf:
What a remarkably dismal outlook on life.
Ralf
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only the correct application of basic principles.
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User: "IknowHimDoYou"

Title: Re: The World is Getting Better? 21 Nov 2003 06:32:08 PM
In article <Ni6vb.1392$Vu5.314759@twister.southeast.rr.com>, "_AnonCoward"
<abc@xyz.com> wrote:

"IknowHimDoYou" <IknowHim@leavingsoon.com> wrote in message
news:IknowHim-2011030850360001@pm1-15.kalama.com...
: The World is Getting Better?
:
: A look around will certainly show that things are getting better in
: this old world. Actually that is a lie. Only the God-haters hope
: that it is getting better. Those who live in reality realize that
: the world is on a steepening slope downward. Not only is the world's
: energy level dropping(magnetic flux, worsening weather, global
: warming, oil reserves declining, etc.) but the moral and physical
: condition of man is slipping at a bounding rate. God-haters(humanists,
: evolutionists, democrats, socialists and utopians) are seeing the real
: outcome of their stupid and dangerous philosophies and practices all
: around them but they are for the most part in denial.
:
: These pathetic creatures are in a panic to try and remove any
: sembalance of God from the earth. They, of course, will fail as they
: always do and the world that they make will be their own destruction.
: Shouting, crying, bombasting that man will be victorious on his own is
: the mantra of losers and the damned.
:
: There is only one way out!
:
: I Cor 15:3-4


Ralf:
What a remarkably dismal outlook on life.


Ralf

__________________________________________________________
Not on life, but on this world.
Do you think it is getting better?
.
User: "_AnonCoward"

Title: Re: The World is Getting Better? 22 Nov 2003 08:24:53 AM
"IknowHimDoYou" <IknowHim@leavingsoon.com> wrote in message
news:IknowHim-2111031632080001@pm8-02.kalama.com...
:
: In article <Ni6vb.1392$Vu5.314759@twister.southeast.rr.com>,
: "_AnonCoward" <abc@xyz.com> wrote:
:
: > "IknowHimDoYou" <IknowHim@leavingsoon.com> wrote in message
: > news:IknowHim-2011030850360001@pm1-15.kalama.com...
: > : The World is Getting Better?
: > :
: > : A look around will certainly show that things are getting better
: > : in this old world. Actually that is a lie. Only the God-haters
: > : hope that it is getting better. Those who live in reality realize
: > : that the world is on a steepening slope downward. Not only is the
: > : world's energy level dropping(magnetic flux, worsening weather,
: > : global warming, oil reserves declining, etc.) but the moral and
: > : physical condition of man is slipping at a bounding rate.
: > : God-haters(humanists, evolutionists, democrats, socialists and
: > : utopians) are seeing the real outcome of their stupid and
dangerous
: > : philosophies and practices all around them but they are for the
most
: > : part in denial.
: > :
: > : These pathetic creatures are in a panic to try and remove any
: > : sembalance of God from the earth. They, of course, will fail as
: > : they always do and the world that they make will be their own
: > : destruction. Shouting, crying, bombasting that man will be
victorious
: > : on his own is the mantra of losers and the damned.
: > :
: > : There is only one way out!
: > :
: > : I Cor 15:3-4
: >
: >
: > Ralf:
: > What a remarkably dismal outlook on life.
: >
: >
: > Ralf
: __________________________________________________________
:
: Not on life, but on this world.
:
: Do you think it is getting better?
Ralf:
Yes.
Ralf
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We must at all times stand in opposition to the entaglement
of religious authority with political power. The outcome is
invariably an abomination.
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User: "IknowHimDoYou"

Title: Re: The World is Getting Better? 22 Nov 2003 10:32:01 AM
In article <VkKvb.14949$I53.546375@twister.southeast.rr.com>,
"_AnonCoward" <abc@xyz.com> wrote:

"IknowHimDoYou" <IknowHim@leavingsoon.com> wrote in message
news:IknowHim-2111031632080001@pm8-02.kalama.com...
:
: In article <Ni6vb.1392$Vu5.314759@twister.southeast.rr.com>,
: "_AnonCoward" <abc@xyz.com> wrote:
:
: > "IknowHimDoYou" <IknowHim@leavingsoon.com> wrote in message
: > news:IknowHim-2011030850360001@pm1-15.kalama.com...
: > : The World is Getting Better?
: > :
: > : A look around will certainly show that things are getting better
: > : in this old world. Actually that is a lie. Only the God-haters
: > : hope that it is getting better. Those who live in reality realize
: > : that the world is on a steepening slope downward. Not only is the
: > : world's energy level dropping(magnetic flux, worsening weather,
: > : global warming, oil reserves declining, etc.) but the moral and
: > : physical condition of man is slipping at a bounding rate.
: > : God-haters(humanists, evolutionists, democrats, socialists and
: > : utopians) are seeing the real outcome of their stupid and
dangerous
: > : philosophies and practices all around them but they are for the
most
: > : part in denial.
: > :
: > : These pathetic creatures are in a panic to try and remove any
: > : sembalance of God from the earth. They, of course, will fail as
: > : they always do and the world that they make will be their own
: > : destruction. Shouting, crying, bombasting that man will be
victorious
: > : on his own is the mantra of losers and the damned.
: > :
: > : There is only one way out!
: > :
: > : I Cor 15:3-4
: >
: >
: > Ralf:
: > What a remarkably dismal outlook on life.
: >
: >
: > Ralf
: __________________________________________________________
:
: Not on life, but on this world.
:
: Do you think it is getting better?


Ralf:
Yes.


Ralf

_______________________________________________________________
I've got a lot in Florida with sub irrigation that you might like to buy.
Interested?
.
User: "_AnonCoward"

Title: Re: The World is Getting Better? 22 Nov 2003 07:08:15 PM
"IknowHimDoYou" <IknowHim@leavingsoon.com> wrote in message
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:
: In article <VkKvb.14949$I53.546375@twister.southeast.rr.com>,
: "_AnonCoward" <abc@xyz.com> wrote:
:
: > "IknowHimDoYou" <IknowHim@leavingsoon.com> wrote in message
: > news:IknowHim-2111031632080001@pm8-02.kalama.com...
: > :
: > : In article <Ni6vb.1392$Vu5.314759@twister.southeast.rr.com>,
: > : "_AnonCoward" <abc@xyz.com> wrote:
: > :
: > : > "IknowHimDoYou" <IknowHim@leavingsoon.com> wrote in message
: > : > news:IknowHim-2011030850360001@pm1-15.kalama.com...
: > : > : The World is Getting Better?
: > : > :
: > : > : A look around will certainly show that things are getting
: > : > : better in this old world. Actually that is a lie. Only the
: > : > : God-haters hope that it is getting better. Those who live in
: > : > : reality realize that the world is on a steepening slope
: > : > : downward. Not only is the world's energy level dropping
: > : > : (magnetic flux, worsening weather, global warming, oil
: > : > : reserves declining, etc.) but the moral and physical condition
: > : > : of man is slipping at a bounding rate. God-haters (humanists,
: > : > : evolutionists, democrats, socialists and utopians) are seeing
: > : > : the real outcome of their stupid and dangerous philosophies
: > : > : and practices all around them but they are for the most part
: > : > : in denial.
: > : > :
: > : > : These pathetic creatures are in a panic to try and remove any
: > : > : sembalance of God from the earth. They, of course, will fail
: > : > : as they always do and the world that they make will be their
: > : > : own destruction. Shouting, crying, bombasting that man will be
: > : > : victorious on his own is the mantra of losers and the damned.
: > : > :
: > : > : There is only one way out!
: > : > :
: > : > : I Cor 15:3-4
: > : >
: > : >
: > : > Ralf:
: > : > What a remarkably dismal outlook on life.
: > : >
: > : >
: > : > Ralf
: > : __________________________________________________________
: > :
: > : Not on life, but on this world.
: > :
: > : Do you think it is getting better?
: >
: >
: > Ralf:
: > Yes.
: >
: >
: > Ralf
: _______________________________________________________________
:
: I've got a lot in Florida with sub irrigation that you might like to
: buy.
:
: Interested?
Ralf:
No.
Ralf
--
----------------------------------------------------------
* ^~^ ^~^ *
* _ {~ ~} {~ ~} _ *
* /_``>*< >*<''_\ *
* (\--_)++) (++(_--/) *
----------------------------------------------------------
There are no advanced students in Aikido - there are only
competent beginners. There are no advanced techniques -
only the correct application of basic principles.
.




User: "Seppo Pietikainen"

Title: Re: The World is Getting Better? 20 Nov 2003 11:00:49 AM
_AnonCoward wrote:

"IknowHimDoYou" <IknowHim@leavingsoon.com> wrote in message
news:IknowHim-2011030850360001@pm1-15.kalama.com...
: The World is Getting Better?
:
: A look around will certainly show that things are getting better in
: this old world. Actually that is a lie. Only the God-haters hope
: that it is getting better. Those who live in reality realize that
: the world is on a steepening slope downward. Not only is the world's
: energy level dropping(magnetic flux, worsening weather, global
: warming, oil reserves declining, etc.) but the moral and physical
: condition of man is slipping at a bounding rate. God-haters(humanists,
: evolutionists, democrats, socialists and utopians) are seeing the real
: outcome of their stupid and dangerous philosophies and practices all
: around them but they are for the most part in denial.
:
: These pathetic creatures are in a panic to try and remove any
: sembalance of God from the earth. They, of course, will fail as they
: always do and the world that they make will be their own destruction.
: Shouting, crying, bombasting that man will be victorious on his own is
: the mantra of losers and the damned.
:
: There is only one way out!
:
: I Cor 15:3-4


Ralf:
What a remarkably dismal outlook on life.


Ralf

Well, what do you expect from someone with "IKnowShit"'s view of the world?
Seppo P.
.

User: "Libertarius"

Title: Re: The World is Getting Better? 20 Nov 2003 12:39:58 PM
_AnonCoward wrote:

"IknowHimDoYou" <IknowHim@leavingsoon.com> wrote in message
news:IknowHim-2011030850360001@pm1-15.kalama.com...
: The World is Getting Better?
:
: A look around will certainly show that things are getting better in
: this old world. Actually that is a lie. Only the God-haters hope
: that it is getting better. Those who live in reality realize that
: the world is on a steepening slope downward. Not only is the world's
: energy level dropping(magnetic flux, worsening weather, global
: warming, oil reserves declining, etc.) but the moral and physical
: condition of man is slipping at a bounding rate. God-haters(humanists,
: evolutionists, democrats, socialists and utopians) are seeing the real
: outcome of their stupid and dangerous philosophies and practices all
: around them but they are for the most part in denial.
:
: These pathetic creatures are in a panic to try and remove any
: sembalance of God from the earth. They, of course, will fail as they
: always do and the world that they make will be their own destruction.
: Shouting, crying, bombasting that man will be victorious on his own is
: the mantra of losers and the damned.
:
: There is only one way out!
:
: I Cor 15:3-4

Ralf:
What a remarkably dismal outlook on life.

Ralf

===>He's a throwback to the Dark Ages. -- L.
.


User: "Lane Lewis"

Title: Re: The World is Getting Better? 22 Nov 2003 08:16:51 PM
"IknowHimDoYou" <IknowHim@leavingsoon.com> wrote in message
news:IknowHim-2011030850360001@pm1-15.kalama.com...

The World is Getting Better?
Not only is the world's energy level
dropping(magnetic flux, worsening weather, global warming, oil reserves
declining, etc.)

magnetic flux - Changes all the time both up and down, reason unknown at
this time.
global warming
worsening weather - Climate changes are natural to this earth.
oil reserves - Of course their going down but there's plenty for a long
time.
Nuclear, Solar, geo thermal, - You forgot to mention these. Wonder why?
Do you have even a high school education, or are you just dishonest.
Lane
.
User: "Mark Fox"

Title: Re: The World is Getting Better? 23 Nov 2003 01:29:56 PM
"Lane Lewis" <lanejlewis@hotmail.com> wrote

"IknowHimDoYou" <IknowHim@leavingsoon.com> wrote.

The World is Getting Better?


Not only is the world's energy level
dropping(magnetic flux, worsening weather, global warming, oil reserves
declining, etc.)


magnetic flux - Changes all the time both up and down, reason unknown at
this time.

global warming
worsening weather - Climate changes are natural to this earth.

oil reserves - Of course their going down but there's plenty for a long
time.

Nuclear, Solar, geo thermal, - You forgot to mention these. Wonder why?

Do you have even a high school education, or are you just dishonest.

Lane

Actually, a changing magnetic field (whether rising or falling)
indicates more energy than a static one thus his fundamental
assumption is wrong. Would it scare him to also learn that the
magnetic field in every electrical appliance in his home falls to zero
many times every second, yet mysteriously the appliances keep
operating.
Also, I heard that known world oil reserves are rising as technology
allows us to detect oil deposits deeper below the surface and in more
hostile climates. This guy not only seems to be unaware of basic
world facts but he is also living off of political rhetoric from the
1970's gasoline retail supply shortages. He probably voted for Carter!
All I can say is: Climb into the current century, Dude! The real
concern is air pollution.
.
User: "IknowHimDoYou"

Title: Re: The World is Getting Better? 24 Nov 2003 11:15:57 AM
In article <a258afb5.0311231129.1d74815e@posting.google.com>,
mark_fox_@yahoo.com (Mark Fox) wrote:

"Lane Lewis" <lanejlewis@hotmail.com> wrote

"IknowHimDoYou" <IknowHim@leavingsoon.com> wrote.

The World is Getting Better?


Not only is the world's energy level
dropping(magnetic flux, worsening weather, global warming, oil reserves
declining, etc.)


magnetic flux - Changes all the time both up and down, reason unknown at
this time.

global warming
worsening weather - Climate changes are natural to this earth.

oil reserves - Of course their going down but there's plenty for a long
time.

Nuclear, Solar, geo thermal, - You forgot to mention these. Wonder why?

Do you have even a high school education, or are you just dishonest.

Lane


Actually, a changing magnetic field (whether rising or falling)
indicates more energy than a static one thus his fundamental
assumption is wrong. Would it scare him to also learn that the
magnetic field in every electrical appliance in his home falls to zero
many times every second, yet mysteriously the appliances keep
operating.

Also, I heard that known world oil reserves are rising as technology
allows us to detect oil deposits deeper below the surface and in more
hostile climates. This guy not only seems to be unaware of basic
world facts but he is also living off of political rhetoric from the
1970's gasoline retail supply shortages. He probably voted for Carter!
All I can say is: Climb into the current century, Dude! The real
concern is air pollution.

__________________________________________________________
No, you got that wrong also...
Its water pollution that will get you first....
.


User: "Tracy Hamilton"

Title: Re: The World is Getting Better? 24 Nov 2003 02:12:24 PM
"Lane Lewis" <lanejlewis@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<nMUvb.30848$86.601840@twister.tampabay.rr.com>...

"IknowHimDoYou" <IknowHim@leavingsoon.com> wrote in message
news:IknowHim-2011030850360001@pm1-15.kalama.com...

The World is Getting Better?


Not only is the world's energy level
dropping(magnetic flux, worsening weather, global warming, oil reserves
declining, etc.)


magnetic flux - Changes all the time both up and down, reason unknown at
this time.

It is the dynamo in the liquid core.

global warming
worsening weather - Climate changes are natural to this earth.

oil reserves - Of course their going down but there's plenty for a long
time.

It depends on your definition of long time. Most estimates are
essentially gone by end of the century.

Nuclear, Solar, geo thermal, - You forgot to mention these. Wonder why?

Do you have even a high school education, or are you just dishonest.

Does it have to be "or"?
Tracy P. Hamilton
.


User: "Thore Schmechtig"

Title: Re: The World is Getting Better? 20 Nov 2003 11:58:46 AM

These pathetic creatures are in a panic to try and remove any sembalance
of God from the earth.

Boy, why should "we god-haters" try that? Idiots like you do a much
better job at this... whoever reads your trash is permanently rendered
unable to see anything good in christianity.
Welcome to the real world, where one is responsible for the
consequences of his actions.
UNWRITTEN RULES OF FUNDAMENTALISM
1. "I'm right and you are wrong".
2. Never admit that you are wrong, even if you really are.
3. When you have nothing to say, hurl insults.
4. Regard and portray your own violence, whether physical,
psychological,
or verbal, at all times as defensive
5. Be prepared at all times to lie and bluster, particularly when backed
into a corner in an argument
6. Never accept responsibility for any mess you have personally caused.
7. When you are forced to admit to an error, regard the whole process of
error and correction as part of God's personal plan for you and not as a
something for which you should apologise retract or make amends except
verbally and secretly to God himself
8. Always see yourself and you personal actions as part of God's plans
for
the world. Recognise that even your errors are just part of Gods will
for
the betterment of mankind.
9.Profess humility but avoid the actual experience of it.
10.Refuse to take in information that differs from your own view and
oppose all such information through classification of such information
in
a derogatory and simplistic manner(eg by categorising it as left wing
propaganda)
11.Refuse to accept that truth is not black and white; that reality is
complex and there are shades of grey
12.Refuse to forgive anyone else for anything unless you purport to
forgive on behalf of other people unconnected with you for whom you
don't
have that right anyhow.
.

User: "Tom"

Title: Re: The World is Getting Better? 20 Nov 2003 01:15:21 PM

YM1: The World is Getting Better?

A look around will certainly show that things are getting better in this
old world. Actually that is a lie. Only the God-haters hope that it is
getting better. Those who live in reality realize that the world is on a
steepening slope downward. Not only is the world's energy level
dropping(magnetic flux, worsening weather, global warming, oil reserves
declining, etc.) but the moral and physical condition of man is slipping
at a bounding rate. God-haters(humanists, evolutionists, democrats,
socialists and utopians) are seeing the real outcome of their stupid and
dangerous philosophies and practices all around them but they are for the
most part in denial.

These pathetic creatures are in a panic to try and remove any sembalance
of God from the earth. They, of course, will fail as they always do and
the world that they make will be their own destruction. Shouting, crying,
bombasting that man will be victorious on his own is the mantra of losers
and the damned.

There is only one way out!

I Cor 15:3-4

Tom: You worship Hebrew mythology YM1, get real for a change!!
.

User: "Adam Marczyk"

Title: Re: The World is Getting Better? 20 Nov 2003 06:51:57 PM
IknowHimDoYou <IknowHim@leavingsoon.com> wrote in message
news:IknowHim-2011030850360001@pm1-15.kalama.com...

The World is Getting Better?

[...]
Ordinarily IKHDY's tripe is its own refutation, but as it happens a recent
Post of the Month on the t.o. archive addressed this very point:
The Good Old Days
http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/postmonth/oct03.html#hon1
Curious, isn't it, that those who really think the world is getting worse
are the ones who've never had to see a loved one die or be crippled by
smallpox, tuberculosis, polio, or any others of the many diseases that
science has wiped out or brought under control.
--
"I'm materialist | a.a. #2001
Call me a humanist | http://www.ebonmusings.org
I guess I'm full of doubt | e-mail: ebonmuse!hotmail.com
So I'll gladly have it out with you..." | ICQ: 8777843
--Bad Religion, "Materialist" | PGP Key ID: 0x5C66F737
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User: "Mark Fox"

Title: Re: The World is Getting Better? 25 Nov 2003 08:11:11 PM
IknowHimDoYou wrote:


...that is a lie.
Only the ... haters
stupid and dangerous...
...are for the most part in denial.

I notice the words you wrote above to describe someone else. You
should consider carefully if they also apply to you. Give it some
thought.


These pathetic creatures are in a panic to try and remove any sembalance
of God from the earth.

Funny, I look around me and don't see a panic of any kind. You are
the only one I see that appears to be in a panic. I also don't see any
attempt to remove God from the Earth (as if God needed our help to
keep from being removed). Would you by any chance be thinking of the
recent, calm, rational decisions from our courts to enforce the United
States Constitution which forbids religious groups or persons from
using government resources to further their religion?
.

User: "patrick_darcy"

Title: Re: The World is Getting Better? 20 Nov 2003 06:48:34 PM
IknowHimDoYou wrote:

The World is Getting Better?

A look around will certainly show that things are getting better in this
old world. Actually that is a lie. Only the God-haters hope that it is
getting better. Those who live in reality realize that the world is on a
steepening slope downward. Not only is the world's energy level
dropping(magnetic flux, worsening weather, global warming, oil reserves
declining, etc.) but the moral and physical condition of man is slipping
at a bounding rate. God-haters(humanists, evolutionists,
democrats, can u name any democrat politicians that have said they hate

God. this is why many people i have spoken to dont want anything to do with
christians. members of the christian right hate everybody who doesnt think
just like them and they make comments like this and it turns off many
people. with most right wingers it my way or no way.
we need to be a much more tolerant of people who disagree.
and if i may ask has your preacher or minister at church ever told u to
hate democrats or anybody else for that matter ?

socialists and utopians) are seeing the real outcome of their stupid and
dangerous philosophies and practices all around them but they are for the
most part in denial.

These pathetic creatures are in a panic to try and remove any sembalance
of God from the earth. They, of course, will fail as they always do and
the world that they make will be their own destruction. Shouting, crying,
bombasting that man will be victorious on his own is the mantra of losers
and the damned.

There is only one way out!

I Cor 15:3-4

--
of all the songs sung from the dawn of creation, some were meant to persist.
of all the bells rung from a thousand steeples, none ring truer than this,
its all God's children singing glory glory, hallelujah He
Reigns...............................................................NeWsBoYs
.

User: "Seppo Pietikainen"

Title: Re: The World is Getting Better? 20 Nov 2003 10:49:42 AM
IknowHimDoYou wrote:

The World is Getting Better?

A look around will certainly show that things are getting better in this
old world. Actually that is a lie. Only the God-haters hope that it is
getting better. Those who live in reality realize that the world is on a
steepening slope downward. Not only is the world's energy level
dropping(magnetic flux, worsening weather, global warming, oil reserves
declining, etc.) but the moral and physical condition of man is slipping
at a bounding rate. God-haters(humanists, evolutionists, democrats,
socialists and utopians) are seeing the real outcome of their stupid and
dangerous philosophies and practices all around them but they are for the
most part in denial.

These pathetic creatures are in a panic to try and remove any sembalance
of God from the earth. They, of course, will fail as they always do and
the world that they make will be their own destruction. Shouting, crying,
bombasting that man will be victorious on his own is the mantra of losers
and the damned.

There is only one way out!

I Cor 15:3-4

Yep, get rid of religious fundamentalist creeps of *all* persuations.
Seppo P.
.
User: "Libertarius"

Title: Re: The World is Getting Better? 20 Nov 2003 12:38:56 PM
Seppo Pietikainen wrote:

IknowHimDoYou wrote:

The World is Getting Better?

A look around will certainly show that things are getting better in this
old world. Actually that is a lie. Only the God-haters hope that it is
getting better. Those who live in reality realize that the world is on a
steepening slope downward. Not only is the world's energy level
dropping(magnetic flux, worsening weather, global warming, oil reserves
declining, etc.) but the moral and physical condition of man is slipping
at a bounding rate. God-haters(humanists, evolutionists, democrats,
socialists and utopians) are seeing the real outcome of their stupid and
dangerous philosophies and practices all around them but they are for the
most part in denial.

These pathetic creatures are in a panic to try and remove any sembalance
of God from the earth. They, of course, will fail as they always do and
the world that they make will be their own destruction. Shouting, crying,
bombasting that man will be victorious on his own is the mantra of losers
and the damned.

There is only one way out!

I Cor 15:3-4


Yep, get rid of religious fundamentalist creeps of *all* persuations.

===>For him the best solution would be to join the Taliban. -- L.
.


User: "Libertarius"

Title: Re: The World is Getting Better? 20 Nov 2003 12:37:19 PM
IknowHimDoYou wrote:

The World is Getting Better?

A look around will certainly show that things are getting better in this
old world. Actually that is a lie. Only the God-haters hope that it is
getting better. Those who live in reality realize that the world is on a
steepening slope downward. Not only is the world's energy level
dropping(magnetic flux, worsening weather, global warming, oil reserves
declining, etc.) but the moral and physical condition of man is slipping
at a bounding rate. God-haters(humanists, evolutionists, democrats,
socialists and utopians) are seeing the real outcome of their stupid and
dangerous philosophies and practices all around them but they are for the
most part in denial.

===>WOW!
During the high time of Christianity,
the reign of Christ through his vicar in Rome,
95% of the people were illiterate, starving peasants,
with a life expectancy of some 35 years and infant
mortality of 80%.
There was no TV or radio, not even newspapers,
only the priests and the few aristocrats could read,
kings were fighting one another for control of territory,
sending those poor peasants to murder each other
with swords and clubs and pitchforks.
Oh, and if you seemed to believe anything different from
what the Church told you, you and your whole village
can be massacred, even including those loyal to the Church.
The slogan was: "Kill them all. God will sort them out."
That was during the Golden Age of the Christian Millennium,
a.k.a. the DARK AGES.

These pathetic creatures are in a panic to try and remove any sembalance
of God from the earth. They, of course, will fail as they always do and
the world that they make will be their own destruction. Shouting, crying,
bombasting that man will be victorious on his own is the mantra of losers
and the damned.

There is only one way out!

===>For you there is:
If you still wish to live in that kind of a word, since you
find the world of today so bad, perhaps you could
go live in Afghanistan and become a Taliban warrior.
With some luck you can bring back the "rule of God (Allah)."
Libertarius
===========
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User: "peter legge"

Title: Re: The World is Getting Better? 21 Nov 2003 05:03:09 PM
"Christine" <Christine@savedbyChrist.com> wrote in message
news:2v2rrvklulehfhs8ccu8t9i16vk48iskc7@4ax.com...

On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:37:19 -0700, Libertarius
<Libertarius@Nothing_But_The_Truth.net> wrote:



IknowHimDoYou wrote:

The World is Getting Better?

A look around will certainly show that things are getting better in

this

old world. Actually that is a lie. Only the God-haters hope that it is
getting better. Those who live in reality realize that the world is on

a

steepening slope downward. Not only is the world's energy level
dropping(magnetic flux, worsening weather, global warming, oil reserves
declining, etc.) but the moral and physical condition of man is

slipping

at a bounding rate. God-haters(humanists, evolutionists, democrats,
socialists and utopians) are seeing the real outcome of their stupid

and

dangerous philosophies and practices all around them but they are for

the

most part in denial.


===>WOW!

During the high time of Christianity,
the reign of Christ through his vicar in Rome,
95% of the people were illiterate, starving peasants,
with a life expectancy of some 35 years and infant
mortality of 80%.
There was no TV or radio, not even newspapers,
only the priests and the few aristocrats could read,
kings were fighting one another for control of territory,
sending those poor peasants to murder each other
with swords and clubs and pitchforks.
Oh, and if you seemed to believe anything different from
what the Church told you, you and your whole village
can be massacred, even including those loyal to the Church.
The slogan was: "Kill them all. God will sort them out."
That was during the Golden Age of the Christian Millennium,
a.k.a. the DARK AGES.



OK the world is getting better then and it is no accident at all.

Can anyone here tell us about the things they are doing to make it
better?

What are you doing today that the you of say 800 years ago would not
have done?

or 50 years?

if the world is getting better it is getting better because of the
hearts and minds of individuals, of you and of me.

so how in your world with the people you meet daily are you making it
a more hospitable place?

tonite someone is weeping because of her child
tonite a man sits alone with his head in his hands
a cold indifferent sky meets his gaze

how do we have more community and sharing than before?

how are we more respectful?

how do we treat the old?

the poor?

not some anonymous statistic, but how is this better standqard of
living reflected in what you give out to others you see daily?
strangers and friends and family?

has technology outpaced advances in the human heart and imagination?

last week all week long they had a tv show that had footage of the war
and letters from soldiers all over the wolrd to home. some were
written just before they were captured and killed.

to hear those words in the midst of all of that bloodshed and thinking
of what they gave up for us, and would they shake their heads if they
looked at what they fought for?

history gives us chapters written in clusters of years and wars and
our understanding pales

then we read the words written by the anonymous soliders and it tells
such a different story than the history books, only concerned with
victory and losses and causes and strategies

these words stand as monument to the ambiguity of the times

Neitzche and Freud were kind of prophets in their day giving us a
forwarning of things to come

we are not even one life time away from the death of innocence and yet
we sleep persistently in a Salvidor Dali dream

the old war heros are left to their silence and annual remembrances

we honor them in ceremony only

Yours in Christ

Christine

Well said Christine............
.

User: "Don"

Title: Re: The World is Getting Better? 20 Nov 2003 10:38:44 PM
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 04:05:37 GMT, Christine
<Christine@savedbyChrist.com> wrote:

On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:37:19 -0700, Libertarius
<Libertarius@Nothing_But_The_Truth.net> wrote:


IknowHimDoYou wrote:

The World is Getting Better?

A look around will certainly show that things are getting better in this
old world. Actually that is a lie. Only the God-haters hope that it is
getting better. Those who live in reality realize that the world is on a
steepening slope downward. Not only is the world's energy level
dropping(magnetic flux, worsening weather, global warming, oil reserves
declining, etc.) but the moral and physical condition of man is slipping
at a bounding rate. God-haters(humanists, evolutionists, democrats,
socialists and utopians) are seeing the real outcome of their stupid and
dangerous philosophies and practices all around them but they are for the
most part in denial.


===>WOW!

During the high time of Christianity,
the reign of Christ through his vicar in Rome,
95% of the people were illiterate, starving peasants,
with a life expectancy of some 35 years and infant
mortality of 80%.
There was no TV or radio, not even newspapers,
only the priests and the few aristocrats could read,
kings were fighting one another for control of territory,
sending those poor peasants to murder each other
with swords and clubs and pitchforks.
Oh, and if you seemed to believe anything different from
what the Church told you, you and your whole village
can be massacred, even including those loyal to the Church.
The slogan was: "Kill them all. God will sort them out."
That was during the Golden Age of the Christian Millennium,
a.k.a. the DARK AGES.



OK the world is getting better then and it is no accident at all.

Getting better for whom???
D*
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves,
but wiser people so full of doubts.
-- Bertrand Russell
I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians.
Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.
-- Mohandas Gandhi
.
User: "Libertarius"

Title: Re: The World is Getting Better? 21 Nov 2003 11:41:44 AM
Don wrote:

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 04:05:37 GMT, Christine
<Christine@savedbyChrist.com> wrote:

On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:37:19 -0700, Libertarius
<Libertarius@Nothing_But_The_Truth.net> wrote:


IknowHimDoYou wrote:

The World is Getting Better?

A look around will certainly show that things are getting better in this
old world. Actually that is a lie. Only the God-haters hope that it is
getting better. Those who live in reality realize that the world is on a
steepening slope downward. Not only is the world's energy level
dropping(magnetic flux, worsening weather, global warming, oil reserves
declining, etc.) but the moral and physical condition of man is slipping
at a bounding rate. God-haters(humanists, evolutionists, democrats,
socialists and utopians) are seeing the real outcome of their stupid and
dangerous philosophies and practices all around them but they are for the
most part in denial.


===>WOW!

During the high time of Christianity,
the reign of Christ through his vicar in Rome,
95% of the people were illiterate, starving peasants,
with a life expectancy of some 35 years and infant
mortality of 80%.
There was no TV or radio, not even newspapers,
only the priests and the few aristocrats could read,
kings were fighting one another for control of territory,
sending those poor peasants to murder each other
with swords and clubs and pitchforks.
Oh, and if you seemed to believe anything different from
what the Church told you, you and your whole village
can be massacred, even including those loyal to the Church.
The slogan was: "Kill them all. God will sort them out."
That was during the Golden Age of the Christian Millennium,
a.k.a. the DARK AGES.



OK the world is getting better then and it is no accident at all.


Getting better for whom???

===>The Spotted Owl and the Silvery Minnow.
.



User: "Elmer Bataitis"

Title: Re: The World is Getting Better? 20 Nov 2003 10:58:00 AM
IknowNothingDoYou wrote:

God-haters(humanists, evolutionists, democrats,
socialists and utopians) ....

Interestingly, I find that most fundmentalists are the real God haters.
They hate Thor, and Vishnu, and Manitou and Indira and any other God but
the one or three they happen to believe in. Evolution is about biology,
democrats are about politics, socialists are mostly Christian in this
world, and utopians??? My heavens, what a terrific hatred utopians have
shown towards God. Look at Jim Jones.
**********************************************************
Elmer Bataitis "Hot dog! Smooch city here I come!"
Planetech Services -Hobbes
585-442-2884
"Proudly wearing and displaying, as a badge of honor,
the straight jacket of conventional thought." - C.
Cagle
**********************************************************
.

User: "Don"

Title: Re: The World is Getting Better? 20 Nov 2003 12:44:52 PM
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 08:50:36 -0800,

(IknowHimDoYou) wrote:

The World is Getting Better?

Who said? Getting better compaired to what?
D*
"It is indeed probable that more harm and misery
have been caused by men determined to use coercion
to stamp out a moral evil than by men intent on doing evil."
-- Friedrich A. Hayek
.

User: "Raymond E. Griffith"

Title: Re: The World is Getting Better? 20 Nov 2003 08:01:35 PM
in article IknowHim-2011030850360001@pm1-15.kalama.com, IknowHimDoYou at
IknowHim@leavingsoon.com wrote on 11/20/03 11:50 AM:

The World is Getting Better?

A look around will certainly show that things are getting better in this
old world. Actually that is a lie. Only the God-haters hope that it is
getting better. Those who live in reality realize that the world is on a
steepening slope downward. Not only is the world's energy level
dropping(magnetic flux, worsening weather, global warming, oil reserves
declining, etc.) but the moral and physical condition of man is slipping
at a bounding rate. God-haters(humanists, evolutionists, democrats,
socialists and utopians) are seeing the real outcome of their stupid and
dangerous philosophies and practices all around them but they are for the
most part in denial.

These pathetic creatures are in a panic to try and remove any sembalance
of God from the earth. They, of course, will fail as they always do and
the world that they make will be their own destruction. Shouting, crying,
bombasting that man will be victorious on his own is the mantra of losers
and the damned.

There is only one way out!

I Cor 15:3-4

Uhhh, let me remind you that the Republicans have been in control in the US
for the last three years. You can hardly blame the democrats for their
disastrous mistakes.
As for energy levels dropping, let me remind you that warming is an energy
*increase*. Worsening weather may indeed be a result of global warming, but
the weather is worse in that the storms frequently exhibit *more* energy,
rather than less. And since Republicans have been the people who want to
remove all pollution controls, jack up oil production and ignore alternate
energy sources, how do they escape your list of bad guys? It seems to me
that they are just as responsible for declining oil reserves and global
warming as anyone else.
As for pathetic creatures, you peg democrats in general as "God-haters"?
That is probably one of the most pathetic characterizations I have heard in
all of my life! It is so transparently false I wonder that you say it so
blatantly. Are you really a Christian, or are you an atheist playing a
malicious game to make Christians look bad?
A characteristic of fundamentalism is to try to oversimplify the world.
Great sweeping generalizations and condemnations are made, and if their
friends get caught in their witch-hunts (as they frequently do), so be it.
Fundamentalists factionalize and marginalize themselves, redefining the
"truth" in ever tighter terms, alienating those who are on the fringe at
each iteration. They make their own increasingly small group the only "true
believers", gladly consigning all who are caught outside their shrinking
circle with them even slightly to the pit of hell. They are so busy looking
forward to getting out of the world that they have no time left to truly
evangelize it.
Raymond E. Griffith
.
User: "Tracy Hamilton"

Title: Re: The World is Getting Better? 21 Nov 2003 12:20:12 PM
"Raymond E. Griffith" <tiffirgrReverse@ctc.net> wrote in message news:<BBE2DC2F.431EE0%tiffirgrReverse@ctc.net>...

in article IknowHim-2011030850360001@pm1-15.kalama.com, IknowHimDoYou at
IknowHim@leavingsoon.com wrote on 11/20/03 11:50 AM:

The World is Getting Better?

A look around will certainly show that things are getting better in this
old world. Actually that is a lie. Only the God-haters hope that it is
getting better. Those who live in reality realize that the world is on a
steepening slope downward. Not only is the world's energy level
dropping(magnetic flux, worsening weather, global warming, oil reserves
declining, etc.) but the moral and physical condition of man is slipping
at a bounding rate. God-haters(humanists, evolutionists, democrats,
socialists and utopians) are seeing the real outcome of their stupid and
dangerous philosophies and practices all around them but they are for the
most part in denial.

These pathetic creatures are in a panic to try and remove any sembalance
of God from the earth. They, of course, will fail as they always do and
the world that they make will be their own destruction. Shouting, crying,
bombasting that man will be victorious on his own is the mantra of losers
and the damned.

There is only one way out!

I Cor 15:3-4

[snip]
All I have to say is:
Ecclesiastes 7
10 Do not say, "Why were the old days better than these?"
For it is not wise to ask such questions.
Tracy P. Hamilton
.


User: "Jonathan h"

Title: Re: The World is Getting Better? 20 Nov 2003 08:58:11 PM
your shitty "sound bits" get worse by the day. you are not making a
difference in anyone's life and you are making a mockery of your fellow
Christians.
"IknowHimDoYou" <IknowHim@leavingsoon.com> wrote in message
news:IknowHim-2011030850360001@pm1-15.kalama.com...

The World is Getting Better?

A look around will certainly show that things are getting better in this
old world. Actually that is a lie. Only the God-haters hope that it is
getting better. Those who live in reality realize that the world is on a
steepening slope downward. Not only is the world's energy level
dropping(magnetic flux, worsening weather, global warming, oil reserves
declining, etc.) but the moral and physical condition of man is slipping
at a bounding rate. God-haters(humanists, evolutionists, democrats,
socialists and utopians) are seeing the real outcome of their stupid and
dangerous philosophies and practices all around them but they are for the
most part in denial.

These pathetic creatures are in a panic to try and remove any sembalance
of God from the earth. They, of course, will fail as they always do and
the world that they make will be their own destruction. Shouting, crying,
bombasting that man will be victorious on his own is the mantra of losers
and the damned.

There is only one way out!

I Cor 15:3-4

.
User: "Elmer Bataitis"

Title: Re: The World is Getting Better? 21 Nov 2003 08:48:54 AM
Jonathan h wrote:

your shitty "sound bits" get worse by the day. you are not making a
difference in anyone's life and you are making a mockery of your fellow
Christians.

Hmmm, maybe IKnowNothingDoYou is really an atheist troll.
**********************************************************
Elmer Bataitis "Hot dog! Smooch city here I come!"
Planetech Services -Hobbes
585-442-2884
"Proudly wearing and displaying, as a badge of honor,
the straight jacket of conventional thought." - C.
Cagle
**********************************************************
.
User: "Seppo Pietikainen"

Title: Re: The World is Getting Better? 21 Nov 2003 09:40:10 AM
Elmer Bataitis wrote:

Jonathan h wrote:


your shitty "sound bits" get worse by the day. you are not making a
difference in anyone's life and you are making a mockery of your fellow
Christians.



Hmmm, maybe IKnowNothingDoYou is really an atheist troll.

**********************************************************
Elmer Bataitis "Hot dog! Smooch city here I come!"
Planetech Services -Hobbes
585-442-2884
"Proudly wearing and displaying, as a badge of honor,
the straight jacket of conventional thought." - C.
Cagle
**********************************************************

He is a double agent here. He doesn't even know this, so,
*please* keep it under wraps...
Seppo P.
.
User: "Jonathan h"

Title: Re: The World is Getting Better? 21 Nov 2003 11:27:48 AM
"Seppo Pietikainen" <s.pietikainen_drop@kolumbus.fi> wrote in message
news:bplbku$1pl1d9$1@ID-137900.news.uni-berlin.de...

Elmer Bataitis wrote:

Jonathan h wrote:


your shitty "sound bits" get worse by the day. you are not making a
difference in anyone's life and you are making a mockery of your fellow
Christians.



Hmmm, maybe IKnowNothingDoYou is really an atheist troll.

**********************************************************
Elmer Bataitis "Hot dog! Smooch city here I come!"
Planetech Services -Hobbes
585-442-2884
"Proudly wearing and displaying, as a badge of honor,
the straight jacket of conventional thought." - C.
Cagle
**********************************************************


He is a double agent here. He doesn't even know this, so,
*please* keep it under wraps...

Seppo P.

lol!
.





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