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User: "V"
Date: 10 Jul 2007 06:46:02 PM
Object: There are none more ignorant and useless than they that seek answers on their knees with their eyes closed....Why is their so much hatred in your heart Rev. Karl E. Taylor?
From: Rev. Karl E. Taylor ->> Take care,

V (Male)
Agnostic Freethinker
Practical Philosopher
AA#2

Arrogant ***** number 2 suits you very well.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor


A.A #1143 PLONKED by Bob
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********
V:
Thank you for your thoughts Rev. Karl. I am sorry you are in such a
low place. You must be in great pain. Sometime this pain can be helped
by just balancing up our life with some simple changes such as changing
our diet, getting more sleep and reducing stress. Other times it take
more work. but in either case we can change if we work at it.

1. Your condescending ***** means nothing to me.
2. Your long winded, cut and paste ***** means nothing to me.
3. If you ego were any larger, it would generate a gravity well and
start developing weather patterns.
4. You don't matter to me.

AA#2

Keep it up moron. You might just achieve Arrogant ***** # 1 before
you know it.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor

A.A #1143 PLONKED by Bob
*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********
V:
Why is their so much hatred in your heart Rev. Karl E. Taylor?
As you wish with your opinions, I argue with no one.
"With the same material one man builds a palace and another only a
hovel." Russell Cromwell.
If I have the truth, I keep it and use it and share it. If you do not
want it that is OK, I make no demands you adopt it. If I am wrong and
you have the truth I adopt it readily and now I have the truth as
well. Wherever the truth is - that is where I go.
What is the truth? The truth is that which promotes peace within and
with all. The truth is that which does not change. This is not so just
because people have the cleverest argument to prove such things.
Atheist and theists are free to defy the God of Peace and the God of
Nature. I make no demands on anyone, for I am just here to report on
the subject as I am quite familiar with what happens when one defies
these Gods.
The business of humanism is 'all our business' if we with to live life
at peace Rev. Karl E. Taylor.
I suggest you read the 'informal creed' of atheism that discusses this
topic.
(Snip)
"An Atheist loves his fellow man instead of god. An Atheist believes
that heaven is something for which we should work now - here on earth
for all men together to enjoy."
As such I ask if someone is thirsty and needs a drink when I see them
parched. And if I am mistaken, then no harm done. I leave them in
peace, but I do ask. This relationship of interdependent humanistic
balance can best be visualized in the 3 corners of a triangle which
represents the spiritual realm, other persons and ourselves At the top
goes Higher Power / God of Nature and God of Peace / Buddha / The
Dharma / Universe / Karma or whatever you choose as the unseen force
behind all. On the bottom right corner of the triangle goes other
people. On the left bottom corner of the triangle goes yourself.
Keeping this relationship in harmonious balance helps develop
compassion for others and humility within ourselves.
We learn to think about others and the spirit as well as our own needs
and we can then see we are all interdependent and not independent with
all. Once you see this balance you will realize that we all share the
same breath and no need to practice hatred or develop ill will towards
others. It is much better to develop compassion for others. For as we
develop compassion for others we develop peace within. This also helps
me with keeping an open mind for peace generators in my life. As such,
I practice from any spiritual tradition without problems or prejudices
and readily look for such gifts irrespective of what label they come
under. I even use tools from the atheists as I have mentioned with the
creed.
It is your right to not like me and you are free to think about the me
as you please. But, if we are seeking to find the truth about a
subject, I find it a good policy to concentrate on principles and not
on personalties. Concentrating on personalties and name calling just
fuels the passions and makes it hard to discuss the real issues.
The Buddhists have a set of rules they use to determine what are
definitive truths and what are not. This can also be a help to those
that prefer to put personalities before principles. But only if you
choose to apply them. And if not, feel free to concentrate on 'who'
writes what instead of 'what' is written.
1) Do not rely on just the person but rely on the doctrine.
2) With respect to the doctrine, do not rely on just the words, but
rely on the meaning.
3) With respect to the meaning, do not rely on just meaning requiring
interpretation, but rely on meaning that is definitive.
4) With respect to definitive meaning, do not rely on just dualistic
understanding but rely on the wisdom of the direct perception of the
truth.
A quote on finding peace from Thich Nhat Hanh
"There is no way to peace, peace is the way. This means that we can
realize peace right here in the present moment with our look, our
smile, our words and our actions. Peace work in not a means, each step
we take should be peace. Every step we take should be joy. Every step
we take should be happiness. Are you massaging Mother Earth every time
your foot touches her? Are you planting seeds of joy and peace?
Enlightenment, peace and joy will not be granted by someone else. The
well is within us and if we dig deeply in the present moment the water
will spring forth. If we are determined, we can do it. We don't need
the future. We can smile, breath fully and relax Everything we want is
here in the present moment. Peace is every step. Shall we continue our
journey?"
Take care,
V (Male)
Agnostic Freethinker
Practical Philosopher
AA#2
.

User: "G-Ride"

Title: Re: There are none more ignorant and useless than they that seek answers on their knees with their eyes closed....Why is their so much hatred in your heart Rev. Karl E. Taylor? 10 Jul 2007 07:48:36 PM
"V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1184111162.401202.232410@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...



1. Your condescending *****

Ho! <Whack>
--
Aloha, G-Ride
The force that's forcing you to feel like busting up a Starbucks.
.

User: "skyeyes"

Title: Re: There are none more ignorant and useless than they that seek answers on their knees with their eyes closed....Why is their so much hatred in your heart Rev. Karl E. Taylor? 11 Jul 2007 01:49:53 PM
On Jul 10, 4:46 pm, V <v...@aol.com> wrote:

From: Rev. Karl E. Taylor ->> Take care,





V (Male)
Agnostic Freethinker
Practical Philosopher
AA#2

Arrogant ***** number 2 suits you very well.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor


A.A #1143 PLONKED by Bob
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********
V:
Thank you for your thoughts Rev. Karl. I am sorry you are in such a
low place. You must be in great pain. Sometime this pain can be helped
by just balancing up our life with some simple changes such as changing
our diet, getting more sleep and reducing stress. Other times it take
more work. but in either case we can change if we work at it.


1. Your condescending ***** means nothing to me.

2. Your long winded, cut and paste ***** means nothing to me.

3. If you ego were any larger, it would generate a gravity well and
start developing weather patterns.

4. You don't matter to me.

AA#2


Keep it up moron. You might just achieve Arrogant ***** # 1 before
you know it.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor



A.A #1143 PLONKED by Bob

*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********

V:

Why is their so much hatred in your heart Rev. Karl E. Taylor?

As you wish with your opinions, I argue with no one.

"With the same material one man builds a palace and another only a
hovel." Russell Cromwell.

If I have the truth, I keep it and use it and share it. If you do not
want it that is OK, I make no demands you adopt it. If I am wrong and
you have the truth I adopt it readily and now I have the truth as
well. Wherever the truth is - that is where I go.

What is the truth? The truth is that which promotes peace within and
with all. The truth is that which does not change. This is not so just
because people have the cleverest argument to prove such things.

Atheist and theists are free to defy the God of Peace and the God of
Nature. I make no demands on anyone, for I am just here to report on
the subject as I am quite familiar with what happens when one defies
these Gods.

The business of humanism is 'all our business' if we with to live life
at peace Rev. Karl E. Taylor.

I suggest you read the 'informal creed' of atheism that discusses this
topic.

(Snip)

"An Atheist loves his fellow man instead of god. An Atheist believes
that heaven is something for which we should work now - here on earth
for all men together to enjoy."

As such I ask if someone is thirsty and needs a drink when I see them
parched. And if I am mistaken, then no harm done. I leave them in
peace, but I do ask. This relationship of interdependent humanistic
balance can best be visualized in the 3 corners of a triangle which
represents the spiritual realm, other persons and ourselves At the top
goes Higher Power / God of Nature and God of Peace / Buddha / The
Dharma / Universe / Karma or whatever you choose as the unseen force
behind all. On the bottom right corner of the triangle goes other
people. On the left bottom corner of the triangle goes yourself.
Keeping this relationship in harmonious balance helps develop
compassion for others and humility within ourselves.

We learn to think about others and the spirit as well as our own needs
and we can then see we are all interdependent and not independent with
all. Once you see this balance you will realize that we all share the
same breath and no need to practice hatred or develop ill will towards
others. It is much better to develop compassion for others. For as we
develop compassion for others we develop peace within. This also helps
me with keeping an open mind for peace generators in my life. As such,
I practice from any spiritual tradition without problems or prejudices
and readily look for such gifts irrespective of what label they come
under. I even use tools from the atheists as I have mentioned with the
creed.

It is your right to not like me and you are free to think about the me
as you please. But, if we are seeking to find the truth about a
subject, I find it a good policy to concentrate on principles and not
on personalties. Concentrating on personalties and name calling just
fuels the passions and makes it hard to discuss the real issues.

The Buddhists have a set of rules they use to determine what are
definitive truths and what are not. This can also be a help to those
that prefer to put personalities before principles. But only if you
choose to apply them. And if not, feel free to concentrate on 'who'
writes what instead of 'what' is written.

1) Do not rely on just the person but rely on the doctrine.

2) With respect to the doctrine, do not rely on just the words, but
rely on the meaning.

3) With respect to the meaning, do not rely on just meaning requiring
interpretation, but rely on meaning that is definitive.

4) With respect to definitive meaning, do not rely on just dualistic
understanding but rely on the wisdom of the direct perception of the
truth.

A quote on finding peace from Thich Nhat Hanh

"There is no way to peace, peace is the way. This means that we can
realize peace right here in the present moment with our look, our
smile, our words and our actions. Peace work in not a means, each step
we take should be peace. Every step we take should be joy. Every step
we take should be happiness. Are you massaging Mother Earth every time
your foot touches her? Are you planting seeds of joy and peace?
Enlightenment, peace and joy will not be granted by someone else. The
well is within us and if we dig deeply in the present moment the water
will spring forth. If we are determined, we can do it. We don't need
the future. We can smile, breath fully and relax Everything we want is
here in the present moment. Peace is every step. Shall we continue our
journey?"

Take care,

V (Male)

Agnostic Freethinker
Practical Philosopher
AA#2

HO! <Thwack>
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes at dakotacom dot net
.

User: "Neil Kelsey"

Title: Re: There are none more ignorant and useless than they that seek answers on their knees with their eyes closed....Why is their so much hatred in your heart Rev. Karl E. Taylor? 10 Jul 2007 06:49:40 PM
On Jul 10, 4:46 pm, V <v...@aol.com> wrote:

From: Rev. Karl E. Taylor ->> Take care,





V (Male)
Agnostic Freethinker
Practical Philosopher
AA#2

Arrogant ***** number 2 suits you very well.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor


A.A #1143 PLONKED by Bob
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********
V:
Thank you for your thoughts Rev. Karl. I am sorry you are in such a
low place. You must be in great pain. Sometime this pain can be helped
by just balancing up our life with some simple changes such as changing
our diet, getting more sleep and reducing stress. Other times it take
more work. but in either case we can change if we work at it.


1. Your condescending ***** means nothing to me.

2. Your long winded, cut and paste ***** means nothing to me.

3. If you ego were any larger, it would generate a gravity well and
start developing weather patterns.

4. You don't matter to me.

AA#2


Keep it up moron. You might just achieve Arrogant ***** # 1 before
you know it.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor



A.A #1143 PLONKED by Bob

*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********

V:

Why is their so much hatred in your heart Rev. Karl E. Taylor?

Way to dodge Karl's questions, V. Way to dodge all our questions.
Ho, whack.
.
User: "V"

Title: Re: There are none more ignorant and useless than they that seek answers on their knees with their eyes closed....Why is their so much hatred in your heart Rev. Karl E. Taylor? 11 Jul 2007 07:56:24 AM
On Jul 10, 7:49?pm, Neil Kelsey <neil_kel...@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Jul 10, 4:46 pm, V <v...@aol.com> wrote:





From: Rev. Karl E. Taylor ->> Take care,


V (Male)
Agnostic Freethinker
Practical Philosopher
AA#2

Arrogant ***** number 2 suits you very well.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor


A.A #1143 PLONKED by Bob
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********
V:
Thank you for your thoughts Rev. Karl. I am sorry you are in such a
low place. You must be in great pain. Sometime this pain can be helped
by just balancing up our life with some simple changes such as changing
our diet, getting more sleep and reducing stress. Other times it take
more work. but in either case we can change if we work at it.


1. Your condescending ***** means nothing to me.


2. Your long winded, cut and paste ***** means nothing to me.


3. If you ego were any larger, it would generate a gravity well and
start developing weather patterns.


4. You don't matter to me.


AA#2


Keep it up moron. You might just achieve Arrogant ***** # 1 before
you know it.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor



A.A #1143 PLONKED by Bob


*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********


V:


Why is their so much hatred in your heart Rev. Karl E. Taylor?


Way to dodge Karl's questions, V. Way to dodge all our questions.

Ho, whack.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You have no foundation for truth Neil
I dodge no question.
Open a thread addressed to 'V' and ask your questions.
Take care,
V (Male)
Agnostic Freethinker
Practical Philosopher
AA#2
.
User: "Neil Kelsey"

Title: Re: There are none more ignorant and useless than they that seek answers on their knees with their eyes closed....Why is their so much hatred in your heart Rev. Karl E. Taylor? 11 Jul 2007 09:27:04 AM
On Jul 11, 5:56 am, V <v...@aol.com> wrote:

On Jul 10, 7:49?pm, Neil Kelsey <neil_kel...@hotmail.com> wrote:





On Jul 10, 4:46 pm, V <v...@aol.com> wrote:


From: Rev. Karl E. Taylor ->> Take care,


V (Male)
Agnostic Freethinker
Practical Philosopher
AA#2

Arrogant ***** number 2 suits you very well.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor


A.A #1143 PLONKED by Bob
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********
V:
Thank you for your thoughts Rev. Karl. I am sorry you are in such a
low place. You must be in great pain. Sometime this pain can be helped
by just balancing up our life with some simple changes such as changing
our diet, getting more sleep and reducing stress. Other times it take
more work. but in either case we can change if we work at it.


1. Your condescending ***** means nothing to me.


2. Your long winded, cut and paste ***** means nothing to me.


3. If you ego were any larger, it would generate a gravity well and
start developing weather patterns.


4. You don't matter to me.


AA#2


Keep it up moron. You might just achieve Arrogant ***** # 1 before
you know it.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor



A.A #1143 PLONKED by Bob


*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********


V:


Why is their so much hatred in your heart Rev. Karl E. Taylor?


Way to dodge Karl's questions, V. Way to dodge all our questions.


Ho, whack.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


You have no foundation for truth Neil

That is such a dorky way to phrase things. Talking like a sage does
not make you a sage.
Time bends in a gravitational field. There. I just proved I have a
foundation for truth, V, so you can shut the ***** up about that from
now on.

I dodge no question.

What is your real name?

Open a thread addressed to 'V' and ask your questions.

I can make a list of 600 questions that you've dodged. You may be
deluded, but I'm not. And, what's wrong with THIS thread?
Ho and whack off.
.

User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: There are none more ignorant and useless than they that seekanswers on their knees with their eyes closed....Why is their so muchhatred in your heart Rev. Karl E. Taylor? 11 Jul 2007 08:19:56 AM
On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 12:56:24 +0000, V wrote:

You

HO! <WHACK>
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"You believe in a book that has talking animals, wizards,
witches, demons, sticks turning into snakes, food falling
from the sky, people walking on water, and all sorts of magical,
absurd and primitive stories, and you say that *we* are the
ones that need help?" - Jon Stoll
.

User: "raven1"

Title: Re: There are none more ignorant and useless than they that seek answers on their knees with their eyes closed....Why is their so much hatred in your heart Rev. Karl E. Taylor? 11 Jul 2007 10:45:25 AM
On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 12:56:24 -0000, V <vfr44@aol.com> wrote:

You have no

HO! <whack!>
--
"O Sybilli, si ergo
Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"
.



User: "Syd M."

Title: Re: There are none more ignorant and useless than they that seek answers on their knees with their eyes closed....Why is their so much hatred in your heart Rev. Karl E. Taylor? 11 Jul 2007 02:39:27 PM
On Jul 10, 7:46 pm, V <v...@aol.com> wrote:

From: Rev. Karl E. Taylor ->> Take care,



V (Male)
Agnostic Freethinker
Practical Philosopher
AA#2

Arrogant ***** number 2 suits you very well.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor


A.A #1143 PLONKED by Bob
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********
V:
Thank you for your thoughts Rev. Karl. I am sorry you are in such a
low place. You must be in great pain. Sometime this pain can be helped
by just balancing up our life with some simple changes such as changing
our diet, getting more sleep and reducing stress. Other times it take
more work. but in either case we can change if we work at it.


1. Your condescending ***** means nothing to me.

2. Your long winded, cut and paste ***** means nothing to me.

3. If you ego were any larger, it would generate a gravity well and
start developing weather patterns.

4. You don't matter to me.

AA#2


Keep it up moron. You might just achieve Arrogant ***** # 1 before
you know it.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor



A.A #1143 PLONKED by Bob

*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********

V:

Why is their so much hatred

HO! <Whack>
PDW
.

User: "JohnN"

Title: Re: There are none more ignorant and useless than they that seek answers on their knees with their eyes closed....Why is their so much hatred in your heart Rev. Karl E. Taylor? 10 Jul 2007 08:56:21 PM
On Jul 10, 7:46 pm, V <v...@aol.com> wrote:

From: Rev. Karl E. Taylor ->> Take care,

Special delivery from the valley of the Jolly "Ho! Ho! Ho! Whack"
Green Giant.
JohnN
.

User: "The Rev Dr. Hugh Jarse NLAHN."

Title: Re: There are none more ignorant and useless than they that seek answers on their knees with their eyes closed....Why is their so much hatred in your heart Rev. Karl E. Taylor? 11 Jul 2007 04:25:08 AM
On Jul 11, 12:46 am, V <v...@aol.com> wrote:

<snip>

I'm glad things bother you, V.
Now please just open your mind to the possibility that you, and you
alone, are the one with the problem here.
.

User: "raven1"

Title: Re: There are none more ignorant and useless than they that seek answers on their knees with their eyes closed....Why is their so much hatred in your heart Rev. Karl E. Taylor? 10 Jul 2007 10:54:28 PM
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 16:46:02 -0700, V <vfr44@aol.com> wrote:

There are none more ignorant and useless

Than you.
HO! <whack!>
--
"O Sybilli, si ergo
Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"
.

User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: There are none more ignorant and useless than they that seekanswers on their knees with their eyes closed....Why is their so muchhatred in your heart Rev. Karl E. Taylor? 10 Jul 2007 07:52:48 PM
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 16:46:02 -0700, V wrote:

Why

HO! <SCHWHACK>
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"Come to think of it, there are already a million monkeys
on a million typewriters, and the Usenet is NOTHING
like Shakespeare!" - Blair Houghton
.

User: "The Chief Instigator"

Title: Re: There are none more ignorant and useless than they that seek answers on their knees with their eyes closed....Why is their so much hatred in your heart Rev. Karl E. Taylor? 11 Jul 2007 12:47:46 AM
V <vfr44@aol.com> writes:

From: Rev. Karl E. Taylor ->> Take care,

[...]

1. Your condescending ***** means nothing to me.

2. Your long winded, cut and paste ***** means nothing to me.

3. If you ego were any larger, it would generate a gravity well and
start developing weather patterns.

4. You don't matter to me.

*****, considering you refuse to live up to your bombast and ignore
alt.atheism.
HO! <garburator switch set to "emulsify">
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: San Antonio 4, Houston 2 (April 15)
NEXT GAME: October 2007, date/place/opponent TBA
.


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