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08 Dec 2006 03:05:57 AM |
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There fell a great star from heaven |
"The first angel sounded, and there followed hail
and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast
upon the earth, and the third part of trees was
burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.
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And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great
mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea,
and the third part of the sea became blood, and the
third part of the creatures which were in the sea,
and had life, died, and the third part of the ships
were destroyed.
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And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great
star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it
fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the
fountains of waters. And the name of the star is
called Wormwood, and the third part of the waters
became wormwood, and many men died of the waters,
because they were made bitter.
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And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of
the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon,
and the third part of the stars, so as the third
part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for
a third part of it, and the night likewise"
(Revelation 8:7-12).
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| User: "josh" |
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| Title: Re: There fell a great star from heaven |
08 Dec 2006 11:33:41 AM |
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It would make a good disaster movie.
"Read The Bible" <bibleverse2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1165568757.637785.32440@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
"The first angel sounded, and there followed hail
and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast
upon the earth, and the third part of trees was
burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.
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And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great
mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea,
and the third part of the sea became blood, and the
third part of the creatures which were in the sea,
and had life, died, and the third part of the ships
were destroyed.
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And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great
star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it
fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the
fountains of waters. And the name of the star is
called Wormwood, and the third part of the waters
became wormwood, and many men died of the waters,
because they were made bitter.
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And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of
the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon,
and the third part of the stars, so as the third
part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for
a third part of it, and the night likewise"
(Revelation 8:7-12).
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| User: "Father Haskell" |
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| Title: Re: There fell a great star from heaven |
08 Dec 2006 02:06:46 PM |
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Read The Bible wrote:
And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great
star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it
fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the
fountains of waters. And the name of the star is
called Wormwood, and the third part of the waters
became wormwood, and many men died of the waters,
because they were made bitter.
There are no stars named "Wormwood," and most
are so big that the Earth would fall into _them_.
The bibble is many things; an astronomy text,
it is not.
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| User: "vernon stillhere@anhere" |
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| Title: Re: There fell a great star from heaven |
08 Dec 2006 09:44:51 PM |
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"Father Haskell" <fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1165608406.230270.114960@l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com...
Read The Bible wrote:
And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great
star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it
fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the
fountains of waters. And the name of the star is
called Wormwood, and the third part of the waters
became wormwood, and many men died of the waters,
because they were made bitter.
There are no stars named "Wormwood," and most
are so big that the Earth would fall into _them_.
The bibble is many things; an astronomy text,
it is not.
Understand Nuclear bomb(s) or the 1/4 mile dia. asteroid?
Of course not
Get an education.
Both have a VERY high probability.
There really are a set called "wormwood" by effect.
Get an education slow one.
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| User: "Father Haskell" |
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09 Dec 2006 05:54:56 PM |
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vernon wrote:
"Father Haskell" <fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1165608406.230270.114960@l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com...
Read The Bible wrote:
And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great
star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it
fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the
fountains of waters. And the name of the star is
called Wormwood, and the third part of the waters
became wormwood, and many men died of the waters,
because they were made bitter.
There are no stars named "Wormwood," and most
are so big that the Earth would fall into _them_.
The bibble is many things; an astronomy text,
it is not.
Understand Nuclear bomb(s) or the 1/4 mile dia. asteroid?
Of course not
Neither is a star.
Get an education.
Learn the difference between a star and not a star.
Both have a VERY high probability.
Wear clean briefs.
There really are a set called "wormwood" by effect.
Wormwood is a perrenial herb used to make absinthe.
Get an education slow one.
Drop your bible and burn it.
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| User: "vernon stillhere@anhere" |
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09 Dec 2006 08:42:51 PM |
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"Father Haskell" <fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1165708496.106565.143770@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
vernon wrote:
"Father Haskell" <fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1165608406.230270.114960@l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com...
Read The Bible wrote:
And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great
star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it
fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the
fountains of waters. And the name of the star is
called Wormwood, and the third part of the waters
became wormwood, and many men died of the waters,
because they were made bitter.
There are no stars named "Wormwood," and most
are so big that the Earth would fall into _them_.
The bibble is many things; an astronomy text,
it is not.
Understand Nuclear bomb(s) or the 1/4 mile dia. asteroid?
Of course not
Neither is a star.
Duhhh really?
Define star.
Oh yes. as far as the observer is concerned there are more "stars than
thermonuclear bodies. DUUUHHH
Get an education.
Learn the difference between a star and not a star.
I already know.
Both have a VERY high probability.
Wear clean briefs.
So your mind is on what? Penis or anal orfice?
There really are a set called "wormwood" by effect.
Wormwood is a perrenial herb used to make absinthe.
Really? Why was it named that?
DUUUHHH
Get an education slow one.
Drop your bible and burn it.
Get an education.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: There fell a great star from heaven |
09 Dec 2006 06:35:08 PM |
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Father Haskell wrote:
Read The Bible wrote:
And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great
star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it
fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the
fountains of waters. And the name of the star is
called Wormwood, and the third part of the waters
became wormwood, and many men died of the waters,
because they were made bitter.
There are no stars named "Wormwood," and most
are so big that the Earth would fall into _them_.
The bibble is many things; an astronomy text,
it is not.
If one, who has studied the sciences, reads the Bible (a.k.a. God's
Word), he will notice a few differences between the two. Students of
the Bible correctly pointed this out to Copernicus, Darwin, Galileo and
others. Now days, almost all Bible scholars find no problems with some
of those differences (some call them "contradictions"). For
example, they have no problem when the teachings of Galileo and
Copernicus differ with "God's Word". But, a large number of
Fundamentalist Bible scholars treat the teachings of Darwin quite
differently. All three of the teachings differ with some views express
in "God's Word", but where Galileo's and Copernicus'
teachings are put on a pedestal, some Fundamentalist want to bury
Darwin's teachings deep under the pedestal.
Why is one "contradiction" worse than the others?
Well, I think it is that astronomy is about things around us. And
Fundamentalist no longer have a problem with that. But, Darwin talked
about us! He got personal! To make it worse, for many, the theory of
evolution is not well understood. In the eyes of some, Darwin's
theory of evolution only amounts to the difference between man and
monkey. And therefore, some, who feel offended, use the Bible to
protect their egos; in effect saying, "You who teach evolution are
not going to make a monkey out of me!"
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God never told anybody to be stupid.
Sergeant K. D. Waugh
22nd Evac. Hosp. S. M.
Korea 1951
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| User: "vernon stillhere@anhere" |
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09 Dec 2006 08:46:45 PM |
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<gpatton@bayou.com> wrote in message
news:1165710908.260229.156500@16g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
Father Haskell wrote:
Read The Bible wrote:
And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great
star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it
fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the
fountains of waters. And the name of the star is
called Wormwood, and the third part of the waters
became wormwood, and many men died of the waters,
because they were made bitter.
There are no stars named "Wormwood," and most
are so big that the Earth would fall into _them_.
The bibble is many things; an astronomy text,
it is not.
Of course we all know from science what a star WILL BE called.
It is VERY obvious that no-one seems to know the meaning of "wormwood" or
even "worm" in ancient Hebrew (not even considering the bible.)
The ignorance prevalent from today's schools is sickening.
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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| Title: Re: There fell a great star from heaven -RIDICULOUS! |
08 Dec 2006 07:24:53 PM |
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THAT IS JUST PLAIN IOGNORANT!
Even STUPID!
Unlike what you read in the Bible, the stars are not
little light in the sky, nor tiny objects that can fall
on Earth.
The planet Earth is a tiny speck compared to any star.
It could fall onto a star, but a star cannot fall on Earth.
Stop quoting banalities from the Bible and start thinking,
but only if you dare.
REMEMBER:
THINKING CAN BE HAZARDOUS TO YOUR FAITH. -- L.
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: There fell a great star from heaven -RIDICULOUS! |
09 Dec 2006 07:53:40 AM |
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On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 18:24:53 -0700, Libertarius
<Libertarius@nothingbutthe.truth> wrote:
THAT IS JUST PLAIN IOGNORANT!
Even STUPID!
Unlike what you read in the Bible, the stars are not
little light in the sky, nor tiny objects that can fall
on Earth.
The planet Earth is a tiny speck compared to any star.
It could fall onto a star, but a star cannot fall on Earth.
Stop quoting banalities from the Bible and start thinking,
but only if you dare.
REMEMBER:
THINKING CAN BE HAZARDOUS TO YOUR FAITH. -- L.
Why do **you** THINK that we don't understand the meaning?
Remember, THINKING CAN BE HAZARDOUS TO YOUR LACK OF UNDERSTANDING.
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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| Title: Re: There fell a great star from heaven -RIDICULOUS! |
20 Dec 2006 09:55:12 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 18:24:53 -0700, Libertarius
<Libertarius@nothingbutthe.truth> wrote:
THAT IS JUST PLAIN IOGNORANT!
Even STUPID!
Unlike what you read in the Bible, the stars are not
little light in the sky, nor tiny objects that can fall
on Earth.
The planet Earth is a tiny speck compared to any star.
It could fall onto a star, but a star cannot fall on Earth.
Stop quoting banalities from the Bible and start thinking,
but only if you dare.
REMEMBER:
THINKING CAN BE HAZARDOUS TO YOUR FAITH. -- L.
Why do **you** THINK that we don't understand the meaning?
Remember, THINKING CAN BE HAZARDOUS TO YOUR LACK OF UNDERSTANDING.
===>Very funny try, Duckie!
The fact is, we seek understanding BY THINKING and exploring,
that is how we bacame enlightened, and abandoned the path of
blind "faith" while your "faith" makes "believers" simply accept
ancient fairy tales as reality. -- L.
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| User: "duke" |
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21 Dec 2006 05:19:16 AM |
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On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 20:55:12 -0700, Libertarius
<Libertarius@nothingbutthe.truth> wrote:
Remember, THINKING CAN BE HAZARDOUS TO YOUR LACK OF UNDERSTANDING.
===>Very funny try, Duckie!
The fact is, we seek understanding BY THINKING and exploring,
that is how we bacame enlightened, and abandoned the path of
blind "faith" while your "faith" makes "believers" simply accept
ancient fairy tales as reality. -- L.
Who is "we"? And what makes you think you're right against millions of hours of
research by others?
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Incitatus" |
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| Title: Re: There fell a great star from heaven -RIDICULOUS! |
21 Dec 2006 10:06:11 PM |
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In article <bbrko2dt4s1hdtdur9i8ga0ho74drrerd7@4ax.com>, duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 20:55:12 -0700, Libertarius
<Libertarius@nothingbutthe.truth> wrote:
Remember, THINKING CAN BE HAZARDOUS TO YOUR LACK OF UNDERSTANDING.
===>Very funny try, Duckie!
The fact is, we seek understanding BY THINKING and exploring,
that is how we bacame enlightened, and abandoned the path of
blind "faith" while your "faith" makes "believers" simply accept
ancient fairy tales as reality. -- L.
Who is "we"? And what makes you think you're right against millions of
hours of
research by others?
duke, American-American
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Do you know I went to churches for some fifteen years of my life
Not one ever pointed out that if you follow a star you go round and round
in circles or that children are not conceived without artificial
insemination or a good old fashioned *****
None ever pointed out the antisemitism unfortunately present in the
Gospels or that "John" especially was not an eyewitness account but a
second century fabrication based on the preceeding Gospels and Pauline
tradition
In fact until the late nineteen sixties none even pointed out that Adam
and Eve was a myth as was the story of Noah, Abraham and of Joseph
None had the decency to point out that Isaiah does not predict Jesus and
that there was more likely to be a Santa Claus than original sin
Some bleeding "research"
What are these people doing in their "studies"
Wanking under the desks!
Or have we all - including you - been lied to?
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| User: "gatekeeper" |
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22 Dec 2006 02:45:05 AM |
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Incitatus wrote:
In article <bbrko2dt4s1hdtdur9i8ga0ho74drrerd7@4ax.com>, duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 20:55:12 -0700, Libertarius
<Libertarius@nothingbutthe.truth> wrote:
Remember, THINKING CAN BE HAZARDOUS TO YOUR LACK OF UNDERSTANDING.
===>Very funny try, Duckie!
The fact is, we seek understanding BY THINKING and exploring,
that is how we bacame enlightened, and abandoned the path of
blind "faith" while your "faith" makes "believers" simply accept
ancient fairy tales as reality. -- L.
Who is "we"? And what makes you think you're right against millions of
hours of
research by others?
duke, American-American
*****
Do you know I went to churches for some fifteen years of my life
Not one ever pointed out that if you follow a star you go round and round
in circles or that children are not conceived without artificial
insemination or a good old fashioned *****
None ever pointed out the antisemitism unfortunately present in the
Gospels or that "John" especially was not an eyewitness account but a
second century fabrication based on the preceeding Gospels and Pauline
tradition
In fact until the late nineteen sixties none even pointed out that Adam
and Eve was a myth as was the story of Noah, Abraham and of Joseph
None had the decency to point out that Isaiah does not predict Jesus and
that there was more likely to be a Santa Claus than original sin
Some bleeding "research"
What are these people doing in their "studies"
Wanking under the desks!
Or have we all - including you - been lied to?
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So you are just another run of the mill unbeliever! Your opinion is
just that, your opinion! I wonder how much the opinion of a minute
speck of dust is in a nonpersonal universe is worth! That is how much
time we should spend listening and reading your tripe!
If what you say is true, then why do you bother saying it? It is a
waste of your breath, and the time to type out your message. You say
"it" is all foolish, and you are part of "it"! You are a fool, wise in
your own conceit! A true Fool!
Now if what you say is false, and you say it yet, then you are still
playing the fool!
But if what I say is true, and you were to believe this, then you would
know that you are not just a speck of dust in the nonpersonal universe,
but in fact you are of infinite value, for the Son of God paid the
price tag for your meaningful existence! Welcome to the human race,
God Loves You!
The Eastgate is open, the King is in Residence! Whosoever will, may
come in!
Gatekeeper
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| Title: Re: There fell a great star from heaven -RIDICULOUS! |
24 Dec 2006 06:17:07 AM |
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In article <1166777105.356005.275650@h40g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
"gatekeeper" <gatekeeper.eastgate@hotmail.com> wrote:
So you are just another run of the mill unbeliever! Your opinion is
just that, your opinion! I wonder how much the opinion of a minute
speck of dust is in a nonpersonal universe is worth! That is how much
time we should spend listening and reading your tripe!
If what you say is true, then why do you bother saying it? It is a
waste of your breath, and the time to type out your message. You say
"it" is all foolish, and you are part of "it"! You are a fool, wise in
your own conceit! A true Fool!
Now if what you say is false, and you say it yet, then you are still
playing the fool!
But if what I say is true, and you were to believe this, then you would
know that you are not just a speck of dust in the nonpersonal universe,
but in fact you are of infinite value, for the Son of God paid the
price tag for your meaningful existence! Welcome to the human race,
God Loves You!
The Eastgate is open, the King is in Residence! Whosoever will, may
come in!
Gatekeeper
What on earth have you been taking?
The rehab has certainly stalled !
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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| Title: Re: There fell a great star from heaven -RIDICULOUS! |
21 Dec 2006 12:32:50 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 20:55:12 -0700, Libertarius
<Libertarius@nothingbutthe.truth> wrote:
Remember, THINKING CAN BE HAZARDOUS TO YOUR LACK OF UNDERSTANDING.
===>Very funny try, Duckie!
The fact is, we seek understanding BY THINKING and exploring,
that is how we bacame enlightened, and abandoned the path of
blind "faith" while your "faith" makes "believers" simply accept
ancient fairy tales as reality. -- L.
Who is "we"?
===>Those of us who dared to think and ended up abandoning "faith".
And what makes you think you're right against millions of hours of
research by others?
===>Not "against" but WITH, on the BASIS OF, Duckie!
Millions of hour of reasearch show the fairy tales your Church teaches
and you believe are just that: fables for children of a past age. -- L.
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| User: "duke" |
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21 Dec 2006 02:08:23 PM |
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On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 11:32:50 -0700, Libertarius
<Libertarius@nothingbutthe.truth> wrote:
Who is "we"?
===>Those of us who dared to think and ended up abandoning "faith".
That's what A&E did - thought their way into original sin by telling God "no".
And what makes you think you're right against millions of hours of
research by others?
===>Not "against" but WITH, on the BASIS OF, Duckie!
Millions of hour of reasearch show the fairy tales your Church teaches
and you believe are just that: fables for children of a past age. -- L.
And yet you can't offer one smidgen of evidence to support that statement.
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Incitatus" |
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| Title: Re: There fell a great star from heaven -RIDICULOUS! |
21 Dec 2006 10:12:59 PM |
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In article <kbqlo29vnd8asli6vqepg06ta9vu7tni1s@4ax.com>, duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 11:32:50 -0700, Libertarius
<Libertarius@nothingbutthe.truth> wrote:
Who is "we"?
===>Those of us who dared to think and ended up abandoning "faith".
That's what A&E did - thought their way into original sin by telling God "no".
And what makes you think you're right against millions of hours of
research by others?
===>Not "against" but WITH, on the BASIS OF, Duckie!
Millions of hour of reasearch show the fairy tales your Church teaches
and you believe are just that: fables for children of a past age. -- L.
And yet you can't offer one smidgen of evidence to support that statement.
I offer you as evidence the entire book of Genesis
The Book of Exodus
and so on!
Mate these are EPICS preserved in the first instance through bardic
traditions and then written down in a composite form probably some eight
centuries before the Christian era.
They have more in common with the Illiad and the Odyssey than with divine
Inspiration. They preserve a minor degree of information about the past
but are predominantly examples of the slow development of ancient fictions
that provided unifying tribal myths.
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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| Title: Re: There fell a great star from heaven -RIDICULOUS! |
21 Dec 2006 07:00:09 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 11:32:50 -0700, Libertarius
<Libertarius@nothingbutthe.truth> wrote:
Who is "we"?
===>Those of us who dared to think and ended up abandoning "faith".
That's what A&E did - thought their way into original sin by telling God "no".
===>Where did you read such a thing?
The A&E fable does not quote them as saying "no" to anyone.
But, of course, even if they did, in any case they would have found YHWH
to have been not telling them the truth.
And what makes you think you're right against millions of hours of
research by others?
===>Not "against" but WITH, on the BASIS OF, Duckie!
Millions of hour of reasearch show the fairy tales your Church teaches
and you believe are just that: fables for children of a past age. -- L.
And yet you can't offer one smidgen of evidence to support that statement.
===>The fact that you are unable to tell the difference between
fact and fiction is evidence enough. -- L.
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08 Dec 2006 08:54:17 PM |
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On Fri, 8 Dec 2006, Libertarius wrote:
THAT IS JUST PLAIN IOGNORANT!
Even STUPID!
Unlike what you read in the Bible, the stars are not
little light in the sky, nor tiny objects that can fall
on Earth.
The planet Earth is a tiny speck compared to any star.
It could fall onto a star, but a star cannot fall on Earth.
Stop quoting banalities from the Bible and start thinking,
but only if you dare.
REMEMBER:
THINKING CAN BE HAZARDOUS TO YOUR FAITH. -- L.
Why are you reading the Christian newsgroups if you don't like
seeing passages of scripture posted?
And why do you reply to someone who posts a passage of scripture
if you aren't interested in what it says?
BTW, the passage of scripture which you got off on a big rant
against was just a narrative about a dream. In a dream anything
can be smaller or bigger than in real life. In your dreams your
appendage can even rise to greater heights than the Washington
Monument.
Sam Heywood
-- Message handled by Pine, Version 4.62
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| User: "john w" |
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08 Dec 2006 10:48:01 PM |
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On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 18:24:53 -0700, Libertarius
<Libertarius@nothingbutthe.truth> wrote:
© 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of this
article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
author
THAT IS JUST PLAIN IOGNORANT!
Even STUPID!
Unlike what you read in the Bible, the stars are not
little light in the sky, nor tiny objects that can fall
on Earth.
The planet Earth is a tiny speck compared to any star.
It could fall onto a star, but a star cannot fall on Earth.
Stop quoting banalities from the Bible and start thinking,
but only if you dare.
REMEMBER:
THINKING CAN BE HAZARDOUS TO YOUR FAITH. -- L.
Sad! Most THINKING ADULTS
(both labels obviously leave Lobotomy out)
understand that it is not proper or intelligent to attempt to impose
21st century thinking on people who lived 2,000 + years ago.
There was no attempt whatsoever to render the Nativity story
"scientifically accurate."
Do you make such demands of the tale of the Easter Bunny?
Do you truly try to dig down to the REALITY when you hear about the
statues on Easter Island?
You hold the Bible to a MUCH higher standard than any other work of
ancient times.
Why is that?
Never mind. I think I don't need to know.
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20 Dec 2006 09:50:19 PM |
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john w <johnw wrote:
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On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 18:24:53 -0700, Libertarius
<Libertarius@nothingbutthe.truth> wrote:
© 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of this
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author
THAT IS JUST PLAIN IOGNORANT!
Even STUPID!
Unlike what you read in the Bible, the stars are not
little light in the sky, nor tiny objects that can fall
on Earth.
The planet Earth is a tiny speck compared to any star.
It could fall onto a star, but a star cannot fall on Earth.
Stop quoting banalities from the Bible and start thinking,
but only if you dare.
REMEMBER:
THINKING CAN BE HAZARDOUS TO YOUR FAITH. -- L.
Sad! Most THINKING ADULTS
understand that it is not proper or intelligent to attempt to impose
21st century thinking on people who lived 2,000 + years ago.
===>Most thinking adults understand that what YOU and your fellow
"missionaries" are trying to do is the opposite:
to impose FIRST CENTURY thinking on the rest of our
21s century the world!
Of course you, lying john w, will never stop doing that. -- L.
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| User: "john w" |
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| Title: Re: There fell a great star from heaven -RIDICULOUS! |
21 Dec 2006 07:07:23 AM |
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On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 20:50:19 -0700, Libertarius
<Libertarius@nothingbutthe.truth> wrote:
© 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of this
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author
john w <johnw wrote:
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On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 18:24:53 -0700, Libertarius
<Libertarius@nothingbutthe.truth> wrote:
© 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of this
article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
author
THAT IS JUST PLAIN IOGNORANT!
Even STUPID!
Unlike what you read in the Bible, the stars are not
little light in the sky, nor tiny objects that can fall
on Earth.
The planet Earth is a tiny speck compared to any star.
It could fall onto a star, but a star cannot fall on Earth.
Stop quoting banalities from the Bible and start thinking,
but only if you dare.
REMEMBER:
THINKING CAN BE HAZARDOUS TO YOUR FAITH. -- L.
Sad! Most THINKING ADULTS
understand that it is not proper or intelligent to attempt to impose
21st century thinking on people who lived 2,000 + years ago.
===>Most thinking adults understand that what YOU and your fellow
"missionaries" are trying to do is the opposite:
to impose FIRST CENTURY thinking on the rest of our
21s century the world!
tsk tsk. There is utterly nothing wrong with applying ancient wisdom
to today's issues. We do it with OTHER ancient philosophies; why not
with Judaism and Christianity?
If a man demands that you carry his suitcase for a block, carry it for
two blocks.
If a man demands your shirt, give him your coat, too. (then run home
and get one of the dozens of other shirts and coats you have hanging
in your closet)
If a man comes to your door and asks for a sandwich, bring him inside
and serve him a 5-course dinner with your family.
If you see a man with no shoes, give him a pair of yours. You have 10
pairs you never wear in your closet.
Don't criticize others; there's a lot in your life that God can
criticize as well.
Do unto the other person as you would wish he would do for you.
Respect your elders.
Take the time and the care to properly raise your children to do the
above.
Take care of your old ones. They deserve it.
I just can't see anything "stupid" or "dusty" about those quotes, and
they're right out of the Bible.
Perhaps you could explain your objections better.
Perhaps you just don't like being told to modify your behavior. You
probably grew up in a foster home where no one cared.
Of course you, lying john w, will never stop doing that. -- L.
chuckle.
And you have just made me cry
drip drip < tears
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| User: "vernon stillhere@anhere" |
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| Title: Re: There fell a great star from heaven -RIDICULOUS! |
21 Dec 2006 07:58:48 AM |
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"john w @yoo.how>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
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On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 20:50:19 -0700, Libertarius
<Libertarius@nothingbutthe.truth> wrote:
© 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of this
article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
author
john w <johnw wrote:
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On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 18:24:53 -0700, Libertarius
<Libertarius@nothingbutthe.truth> wrote:
© 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of this
article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
author
THAT IS JUST PLAIN IOGNORANT!
Even STUPID!
Unlike what you read in the Bible, the stars are not
little light in the sky, nor tiny objects that can fall
on Earth.
The planet Earth is a tiny speck compared to any star.
It could fall onto a star, but a star cannot fall on Earth.
Stop quoting banalities from the Bible and start thinking,
but only if you dare.
REMEMBER:
THINKING CAN BE HAZARDOUS TO YOUR FAITH. -- L.
Sad! Most THINKING ADULTS
understand that it is not proper or intelligent to attempt to impose
21st century thinking on people who lived 2,000 + years ago.
===>Most thinking adults understand that what YOU and your fellow
"missionaries" are trying to do is the opposite:
to impose FIRST CENTURY thinking on the rest of our
21s century the world!
tsk tsk. There is utterly nothing wrong with applying ancient wisdom
to today's issues. We do it with OTHER ancient philosophies; why not
with Judaism and Christianity?
If a man demands that you carry his suitcase for a block, carry it for
two blocks.
If a man demands your shirt, give him your coat, too. (then run home
and get one of the dozens of other shirts and coats you have hanging
in your closet)
FYI
The directions were about obeying secular or local, no, religious, laws.
Sort of like give unto Caesar that which is Caesar's.
If a Roman citizen, especially a soldier walked up to you and asked you to
carry something you were OBLIGED to carry it for one length. Jesus said to
not only obey that law but do twice what is OBLIGED
Same with the coat thing.
Same with a judge ordered slap in the face.
It was a ROMAN law. Jesus merely said to not only obey but, as followers go
the extra mile.
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In <be1lo21fjoeqa0kf6v975oufs41av6jk4i@4ax.com>, on 12/21/06
at 05:07 AM, john w <johnw<no>@yoo.how> felt the urge to irritate
others. And so wasting 86 lines and crossposted from the
alt.religion.christian newsgroup. Of course, nobody is supposed to
notice. But the stench gives him away ever time.
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On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 20:50:19 -0700, Libertarius
<Libertarius@nothingbutthe.truth> wrote:
© 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of this article
may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the author
john w <johnw wrote:
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On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 18:24:53 -0700, Libertarius
<Libertarius@nothingbutthe.truth> wrote:
© 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of this
article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
author
THAT IS JUST PLAIN IOGNORANT!
Even STUPID!
Unlike what you read in the Bible, the stars are not
little light in the sky, nor tiny objects that can fall
snip
===>Most thinking adults understand that what YOU and your fellow
"missionaries" are trying to do is the opposite:
to impose FIRST CENTURY thinking on the rest of our
21s century the world!
tsk tsk. There is utterly nothing wrong with applying ancient wisdom to
today's issues. We do it with OTHER ancient philosophies; why not with
Judaism and Christianity?
Because they lack wisdom, because they are designed to enslave the minds
of others, because in no case of xianity, too much blood has been spilled
without justification as well as land stolen using the mythology as a
justification.
If a man demands that you carry his suitcase for a block, carry it for
two blocks.
Be my guest, but he wants me to carry his suitcase, there's going to be a
reason for it or I won't do it.
If a man demands your shirt, give him your coat, too. (then run home and
get one of the dozens of other shirts and coats you have hanging in your
closet)
I don't have dozens, and coats, I don't normally need them so I don't have
them. Anybody that actually needs anything I have, and I mean, actually.
And not simply wants, generally can have it.
If a man comes to your door and asks for a sandwich, bring him inside and
serve him a 5-course dinner with your family.
Around here, he gets whenever I happen to have on the table or in the
fridge. It doesn't matter if it's a neighborhood kid or a stranger that I
will never see again. In the case of strangers on the move, I generally
manage to send if you canned goods with them. In other words, unlike you,
my charity starts wherever I happen to be, and I do not expect more from
others than I'm willing to give. How many Christmas meals, did you order
this year from the local Roman Catholic church, one or two?
If you see a man with no shoes, give him a pair of yours. You have 10
pairs you never wear in your closet.
You don't know me very well, I have one pair of boots. They are for cold
or bad weather.
Don't criticize others; there's a lot in your life that God can criticize
as well.
Actually, there's not. There's very little that xians can actually
complain about, especially when it comes to personal conduct & ethics.
But these are foreign studies for you, and so you spout the Old Testament
when it supports your point of view, never realizing that in spite of the
claims made on behalf of your mythology, it is phony as you are.
Do unto the other person as you would wish he would do for you.
Not necessarily a good idea, especially when dealing with people like you.
Respect your elders.
Again, not necessarily a good idea, what if they are unworthy of respect.
They could be like you, never having earned respect. And yet being given
respect, because they are elders. Respect, is a thing that must be earned
with some people, a concept that will always elude you.
Take the time and the care to properly raise your children to do the
above.
I took my time to raise my children treat others with decency, help when
they could, in finish, what others started with them.
Take care of your old ones. They deserve it.
Not necessarily, you are a case in point.
I just can't see anything "stupid" or "dusty" about those quotes, and
they're right out of the Bible.
There also associated with societies that are durable. It's called
enlightened self interest and no god is required to point them out. Of
course, in your case, you need an invisible friend to tell you, how to be
a decent person, a self-imposed burden.
Perhaps you could explain your objections better.
Or perhaps, just perhaps, you can learn to get your head out of your *****
and learn that they books you worship, because they going to give you a
second life, you do not deserve you think, well, they're based on other
societies and other rules. You have yet to learn that they are not
unique, and in every instance there is a prior or parallel usage of the,
shall we say, good advice?
Perhaps you just don't like being told to modify your behavior. You
probably grew up in a foster home where no one cared.
Sometimes, I think I would have been better off. But that does not matter,
a father did the best he could to raise for children and provide decent
ethics for them to emulate. Perhaps, a foster home would've been better
for you, apparently it could be no worse if your conduct is indicative of
a xian upbringing.
Of course you, lying john w, will never stop doing that. -- L.
chuckle.
And you have just made me cry
Is this your first, middle, or last lie in this particular series?
drip drip < tears
Hell, you can even make your wine follow USENET protocol.
which wannabe this time Johnny? The one that pretends that the so-called
ethics and morals of the Hebrew grimorie are unique and can only be found
due to the influence of a god, a second rate god at that?
walksalone was not surprised that Johnny would think, assume actually,
that because something is in the grimorie, it must be god soaked and only
because god wanted it to be there. After all, he assumes everybody back
then was as stupid & self-centered as is he is now.
--
When you think of the long and gloomy history of man, you will find more
hideous crimes have been committed in the name of obedience than have ever
been committed in the name of rebellion. -C.P. Snow, scientist and writer
(1905-1980)
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21 Dec 2006 12:46:51 PM |
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john w <johnw wrote:
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On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 20:50:19 -0700, Libertarius
<Libertarius@nothingbutthe.truth> wrote:
© 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of this
article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
author
john w <johnw wrote:
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On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 18:24:53 -0700, Libertarius
<Libertarius@nothingbutthe.truth> wrote:
© 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of this
article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
author
THAT IS JUST PLAIN IOGNORANT!
Even STUPID!
Unlike what you read in the Bible, the stars are not
little light in the sky, nor tiny objects that can fall
on Earth.
The planet Earth is a tiny speck compared to any star.
It could fall onto a star, but a star cannot fall on Earth.
Stop quoting banalities from the Bible and start thinking,
but only if you dare.
REMEMBER:
THINKING CAN BE HAZARDOUS TO YOUR FAITH. -- L.
Sad! Most THINKING ADULTS
understand that it is not proper or intelligent to attempt to impose
21st century thinking on people who lived 2,000 + years ago.
===>Most thinking adults understand that what YOU and your fellow
"missionaries" are trying to do is the opposite:
to impose FIRST CENTURY thinking on the rest of our
21s century the world!
tsk tsk. There is utterly nothing wrong with applying ancient wisdom
to today's issues. We do it with OTHER ancient philosophies; why not
with Judaism and Christianity?
===>Some ancient philosophies, such as Epicureanism and Taoism make
sense. Judaism and Chreistianity are not even worthy of the name of
Philosophy. Note the writings of your founder Saul/Paul of Tarsus,
he exalted MORIA ("foolishness") over SOPHIA ("wisdom"). -- L.
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09 Dec 2006 04:57:43 AM |
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john w wrote:
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On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 18:24:53 -0700, Libertarius
<Libertarius@nothingbutthe.truth> wrote:
[snipped for brevity]
Do you make such demands of the tale of the Easter Bunny?
Does the bunny really lay those chocolate eggs or does he get them from
the store like everyone else.
lol
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| User: "josh" |
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08 Dec 2006 11:43:18 AM |
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This extract from Revelation would make a great disaster movie, now that we
have digital editing. Of course the danger with modern film technology is
that the creators make the disaster sequences a bit too long - King Kong
was a recent example. Will the film have a happy ending where the baddies
get their just desserts? I look forward to the musical score. I hope they
bring the film out on DVD so that I can enjoy it in my own home.
"Read The Bible" <bibleverse2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"The first angel sounded, and there followed hail
and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast
upon the earth, and the third part of trees was
burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.
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And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great
mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea,
and the third part of the sea became blood, and the
third part of the creatures which were in the sea,
and had life, died, and the third part of the ships
were destroyed.
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And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great
star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it
fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the
fountains of waters. And the name of the star is
called Wormwood, and the third part of the waters
became wormwood, and many men died of the waters,
because they were made bitter.
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And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of
the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon,
and the third part of the stars, so as the third
part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for
a third part of it, and the night likewise"
(Revelation 8:7-12).
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