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User:	"Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE!"
Date:	25 Jul 2006 08:26:14 PM
Object:	To the PEACE Brokers: Absolutely Do * NOT * Make a Pact that's 7 YEARS Long!! Do NOT do that!!!

Middle East PEACE Brokers ---
If you broker a peace deal in the Middle East that is to
last specifically for 7 years, then there is absolutely NOTHING
left that can stand in the way of Armageddon seven years later...
the END of the age, literally... and the horrible DEATHS of over
**two billion people**.
NOTHING whatsoever!!
The Bible makes it crystal clear that when the 7-year count-
down clock begins is inexorable and irreversible ticking, it will
have been INITIATED by JUST such a pact!
SO -- WHATEVER YOU DO, Peace Brokers (and yes, that
probably includes you, Condi)... IF you concoct a peace pact
for the Mideast that is delineated by a time frame... be SURE
that you make it for 6 years... or 8 years... or *anything* BUT
** 7 ** years. ANYTHING else BUT that!!
READERS: Want to see what you'll be doing here on earth
10 years from now? Then ... no matter HOW damnably apathetic
you may be about everything ELSE... take a few minutes now
to do THIS:
FORWARD this message, or better yet, write one of your
own that says the same thing... to President Bush, both of your
U.S. Senators, your Congressperson, and every world leader
you think may have a role in making a Mideast Peace Pact.
Because if a pact is made in the near future for SEVEN YEARS,
the likelihood that your life here on earth SOON after that either
will be terminated by the Rapture... or that you will soon be
engulfed in a Tribulation Period that's worse than the darkest
days of Hitler's and Stalin's regimes -- during which you likely
will die -- is PROBABLE.
The ONLY way to make SURE that such a scenario does NOT
play out is to do your best to ENSURE that the Peacemakers
do NOT create a **7**-year pact!!
Thousands of people doing this could succeed.
If we do NOTHING, then we almost surely will get exactly
what we deserve, should such a pact be signed -- the above
scenario -- as a "reward" for our abject STUPIDITY.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
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User: "Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE!"
Title: *WARNING: A very simple* and innocuous CEASE-FIRE could trigger inexorable countdown to Armageddon.**	26 Jul 2006 08:29:54 AM

WARNING: A very *simple* and *innocuous* CEASE-FIRE
could trigger the inexorable countdown to Armageddon.
It's SCARY, but the Tribulation Period of the End Times... 7 years
of accelerating horror in length... AND the **Rapture** immediately
before that... could be instantaneously TRIGGERED by something as
uncomplicated as that! (That's detailed at the very end of this post.)
And even that could literally SNEAK UP on the world without anyone
(other than prophecy buffs/Bible scholars) even giving it a second
thought!
A simple convergence of just two very EASY-to-accomplish factors
could do it.
THAT fast! And *that* IRREVOCABLY!
YOU -- and others brought to awareness of this -- just MAY be the
only possible barrier to the initiation of the unstoppable ticking of the
7-year Tribulation/End Times Clock.
So *please* take a few minutes to read this post to find out WHY.
And what your role could be to *literally* KEEP on living in the world
we know NOW. To literally **forestall** the end of the world as we
know it!
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
To the PEACE Brokers:
**Absolutely** Do *** NOT *** Make a Pact
that's ** 7 YEARS ** Long!! Do NOT do that!!!
Middle East PEACE Brokers ---
If you broker a peace deal in the Middle East that is to
last specifically for 7 years, then there is absolutely NOTHING
left that can stand in the way of Armageddon seven years later...
the END of the age, literally... and the horrible DEATHS of over
**two billion people**.
NOTHING whatsoever!!
The Bible makes it crystal clear that when the 7-year count-
down clock begins its inexorable and irreversible ticking, it will
have been INITIATED by JUST such a pact!
SO -- WHATEVER YOU DO, Peace Brokers (and yes, that
probably includes you, Condi)... IF you concoct a peace pact
for the Mideast that is delineated by a time frame... be SURE
that you make it for 6 years... or 8 years... or *anything* BUT
** 7 ** years. ANYTHING else BUT that!!
READERS: Want to see what you'll be doing here on earth
10 years from now? Then ... no matter HOW damnably apathetic
you may be about everything ELSE... take a few minutes now
to do THIS:
FORWARD this message, or better yet, write one of your
own that says the same thing... to President Bush, both of your
U.S. Senators, your Congressperson, and every world leader
you think may have a role in making a Mideast Peace Pact.
Because if a pact is made in the near future for SEVEN YEARS,
the likelihood that your life here on earth SOON after that either
will be terminated by the Rapture... or that you will soon be
engulfed in a Tribulation Period that's worse than the darkest
days of Hitler's and Stalin's regimes -- during which you likely
will die -- is PROBABLE.
The ONLY way to make SURE that such a scenario does NOT
play out is to do your best to ENSURE that the Peacemakers
do NOT create a **7**-year pact!!
Thousands of people doing this could succeed.
If we do NOTHING, then we almost surely will get exactly
what we deserve, should such a pact be signed -- the above
scenario -- as a "reward" for our abject STUPIDITY.
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
To the above, "Midwinter" <midwinter_m@hotmail.co.uk> asked:

It appears you believe in Biblical prophecy - or at least an
interpretation thereof - yet you are apparently attempting to
avoid the fulfilment of such prophecy. Why would you, as a
believer, wish to do so?

To which I replied as follows. Please give careful consideration
to what I said in that response:
The key word is: "FORESTALL."
1. As GOOD as the Rapture will be for the believers
to whom it happens, it will be that BAD for the billions
who are unfortunate enough to have been left behind
when that happens.
A. Even though wondrous, the Rapture nevertheless
IS the equivalent of DYING. Being alive is the most
wondrous gift any person has ever experienced to
date. And it's valuable as seen by God/Jesus. Just
to cite one example... if it weren't, Jesus would have
regarded Lazarus' death to be no big deal, and not
have bothered to resurrect him. So there's NO point
in RUSHING the inevitable. Life should be lived as
long as possible. It would be crazy to want to see
it end sooner, if later were possible... even in the
case of the Rapture.
B. The beginning of the 7-year Tribulation Period will
spell the END of the Age of Grace/Church Age for
ALL who aren't Raptured. As many theologians see
it, that means that God will impose great DELUSION
from that moment on to all still UNsaved, who had
been given the chance to accept Christ and had
rejected Him... thus dooming *those* folks to
ultimately accepting the Mark of the Beast and being
doomed as a result for all eternity. For the rest,
there would lie the horrors of the Tribulation, which
for millions would mean becoming Tribulation Saints
by going to the guillotine for refusing the Mark, or
dying in any of the many horrific ways that the
world will be afflicted. Or being among those FEW
who could somehow scrabble their way through all
of that without the Mark.
(1) Welcoming the End Times at this juncture would
be an **extremely** SELFISH action on the part
of anyone hypocritical enough to think he were a
"Christian" when one considers the ramifications
of the above aspects. Right now, it's still possible
to be saved just by accepting Jesus' Gift and coming
to Him in repentance. That WON'T be possible for
the world's remaining billions after the Rapture takes
place.
(2) Bible prophecy makes it pretty clear that the Rapture
and the signing of the 7-year guarantee of peace
for Israel will probably occur almost simultaneously,
and that for those left behind, the identity of the
Anti-Christ first will become known for the first time
VERY soon after that.
2. The Rapture, Tribulation, and Second Coming all WILL
occur -- someday. Taking steps to help ensure that
"someday" isn't in the cards for THIS go-'round of
Middle-East events is simply the INTELLIGENT thing
to do, in light of all of the above points, IF indeed it is
possible still to forestall the inevitable for a few more
years or decades. Thus, for those who see the sense
of that, it is VITAL that world leaders be reminded NOT
to conclude a **7-year-long** peace pact.
B. For as long as the End Times events CAN be fore-
stalled (if such is possible by raising the consciousness
of world leaders to the importance of AVOIDING the
creation and enactment of a *7-year-long* peace
pact, people STILL can *continue* to come to Christ,
as I pointed out above. So making this effort NOW
is MOST worthwhile... even for the sake of ONE
additional soul -- let alone for millions, or even another
billion or more.
(1) WISHING for the Rapture to occur sooner rather
than later would therefore be the EPITOME of
UN-Christian selfishness on the part of those who
do so -- and they should be *reminded* of that --
and of the reasons why that is so.
Finally -- what could the NATURE of such a peace pact be,
if it were to occur at THIS point in human history? It could be
as SIMPLE and IMMEDIATE (and as seemingly innocuous) as a
mandated **cease-fire** to allow things to cool off and be dealt
with; such cease-fire to be in effect for 7 years. It would NOT
have to be a COMPLEX ("monumental") Peace Pact, per se. The
KEY aspects are: (1) a guarantee of peace for Israel, and (2) a
specification that said guarantee would be for a period of 7 years.
That's all. THAT simple. And something THAT simple could be
effected in mere hours or days from right now.
Leaders MUST be made aware of the necessity that THOSE
two aspects must NOT be allowed to converge.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
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User: "Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE!"
Title: *ETERNITY'S HISTORIANS may never* get to the bottom of THIS conundrum!**	27 Jul 2006 02:43:06 AM

ETERNITY'S HISTORIANS may *never* get
to the bottom of THIS conundrum!
It's a good thing that they'll HAVE all of eternity to record a
complete history of all that happened on earth during humanity's
years up until the culmination of the End Times.
Because it'll probably take them FOREVER just to...
1. Figure out HOW literally *billions* of people could
have had the chance to study Jesus' descriptions
of the signs to watch for* -- which would forewarn
that His return was immediately imminent -- for
2,000 years -- and then when that time finally came,
more than 99% alive at the that time didn't have
a CLUE about it.
* Listed in great detail in Matthew 24
2. Figure out HOW those (thousands? millions?) of
people who *were* well-enough versed to see it
coming were almost entirely SILENT as those
signs of the times approached and then swept
over them like a tsunami. RATHER than sound a
**strident warning** to everyone about it by
any and all means possible, during those last,
crucial weeks and months.
3. Figure out HOW the vast majority of people who
*regarded* themselves to be Christians almost
*purposely* AVOIDED thinking about the End
Times signs... even when those signs were UPON
them!... rather than show great interest in them
and heed them. (Or, to put it another way, just
WHY did **most** of the very people who were
supposedly Jesus' believers live in DENIAL of the
*obvious* once the sign-storm swept over them?)
(It's almost like a repeat of Jesus last night, in the
Garden of Gethsemane; he agonized, but His
closest disciples SLEPT, instead of abiding with Him.)
NEVER BEFORE in all human history have the signs of the End
of the Age, as presented in very precise detail by Jesus, Himself,
in Matt. 24, been so profoundly and simultaneously evident and
obvious.
Right at this moment, literally MILLIONS of Christians should
be screaming that from the (radio-tv-Internet-blog-print media)
"rooftops" as a final warning to the world that -- HEY!! This very
likely is about to be IT, everyone!!.
INSTEAD, those professing Christians SLEEP through it!
Jesus really wasted His breath when He provided us with
all those signs of His imminent return, didn't He?
What did we DO with that most vital information of all time
when the chips were down, and the end of the age of grace
was sweeping toward us inexorably like an avalanche???
We IGNORED it.
We lived in DENIAL of it.
We lived in IGNORANC of it.
We hypocritically WASTED that phenomenal knowledge.
We SLEPT through it!!
When we COULD have used this last, most vital of all
opportunities to shout to the unsaved: "LOOK!! Here is a fully-
detailed grocery list of just EXACTLY what will be happening
immediately before Jesus returns. **DETAILED**!! Ask
yourselves THIS: 'Who among you can prophetically describe
the world of 2056... just FIFTY years from now... in ANY detail,
much less the world and society of the year 4006?' Jesus
did the equivalent of THAT, for our age, 2000 years in advance!
What MORE proof than *that* do you need in order to know
that He's for REAL -- and that He IS Lord?"
But no.
To our eternal SHAME... our **ETERNAL** shame!!... we
are BLOWING it. BIG-time. As *big* a "big-time" as it GETS.
If there are to be historians throughout eternity to come,
they will NEVER allow us to forget these days. These VERY'
likely *final* weeks and months when we COULD have been
worth our salt to Jesus -- and then SLEPT instead.
THINK about that!! REALLY think. Really, *REALLY* think!!
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
[[[ READERS: This is a companion post to another post
that now is available on your servers in these groups:
CEASE-FIRE on the Edge of Forever
It goes into more detail about this, and what we still
can do. Please take the time to read it, and act on it. ]]]
(In ONE of these cross-posted groups, THIS post wilt
appear twice. For those in that group, please ignore
the duplication. And feel free to respond to either one.)
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User: "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr."
Title: *Re: WARNING: A very simple* and innocuous CEASE-FIRE could trigger inexorable countdown to Armageddon.**	27 Jul 2006 05:32:14 AM

"Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE!" <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
wrote in message news:firec259pqmjjga29gbu6d58mk6h0qjepo@4ax.com...

The really scary part is that idiots like you spouting false prophetic
interpretations will BRING the accusations, persecutions, discriminations,
and executions of the believers down on their heads.
Ike
www.eickleberrybooks.com
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User: "Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE!"
Title: *Re: WARNING: A very simple* and innocuous CEASE-FIRE could trigger inexorable countdown to Armageddon.**	27 Jul 2006 09:05:47 AM

On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 05:32:14 -0500,
"H.E. Eickleberry, Jr." <Yeickleberrybooks@comcast.net> ...
...had NOTHING sensible to say in response to the post below.
<Inanities and lies flushed>
<Previous post restored> --
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
WARNING: A very *simple* and *innocuous* CEASE-FIRE
could trigger the inexorable countdown to Armageddon.
It's SCARY, but the Tribulation Period of the End Times... 7 years
of accelerating horror in length... AND the **Rapture** immediately
before that... could be instantaneously TRIGGERED by something as
uncomplicated as that! (That's detailed at the very end of this post.)
And even that could literally SNEAK UP on the world without anyone
(other than prophecy buffs/Bible scholars) even giving it a second
thought!
A simple convergence of just two very EASY-to-accomplish factors
could do it.
THAT fast! And *that* IRREVOCABLY!
YOU -- and others brought to awareness of this -- just MAY be the
only possible barrier to the initiation of the unstoppable ticking of the
7-year Tribulation/End Times Clock.
So *please* take a few minutes to read this post to find out WHY.
And what your role could be to *literally* KEEP on living in the world
we know NOW. To literally **forestall** the end of the world as we
know it!
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
To the PEACE Brokers:
**Absolutely** Do *** NOT *** Make a Pact
that's ** 7 YEARS ** Long!! Do NOT do that!!!
Middle East PEACE Brokers ---
If you broker a peace deal in the Middle East that is to
last specifically for 7 years, then there is absolutely NOTHING
left that can stand in the way of Armageddon seven years later...
the END of the age, literally... and the horrible DEATHS of over
**two billion people**.
NOTHING whatsoever!!
The Bible makes it crystal clear that when the 7-year count-
down clock begins its inexorable and irreversible ticking, it will
have been INITIATED by JUST such a pact!
SO -- WHATEVER YOU DO, Peace Brokers (and yes, that
probably includes you, Condi)... IF you concoct a peace pact
for the Mideast that is delineated by a time frame... be SURE
that you make it for 6 years... or 8 years... or *anything* BUT
** 7 ** years. ANYTHING else BUT that!!
READERS: Want to see what you'll be doing here on earth
10 years from now? Then ... no matter HOW damnably apathetic
you may be about everything ELSE... take a few minutes now
to do THIS:
FORWARD this message, or better yet, write one of your
own that says the same thing... to President Bush, both of your
U.S. Senators, your Congressperson, and every world leader
you think may have a role in making a Mideast Peace Pact.
Because if a pact is made in the near future for SEVEN YEARS,
the likelihood that your life here on earth SOON after that either
will be terminated by the Rapture... or that you will soon be
engulfed in a Tribulation Period that's worse than the darkest
days of Hitler's and Stalin's regimes -- during which you likely
will die -- is PROBABLE.
The ONLY way to make SURE that such a scenario does NOT
play out is to do your best to ENSURE that the Peacemakers
do NOT create a **7**-year pact!!
Thousands of people doing this could succeed.
If we do NOTHING, then we almost surely will get exactly
what we deserve, should such a pact be signed -- the above
scenario -- as a "reward" for our abject STUPIDITY.
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
To the above, "Midwinter" <midwinter_m@hotmail.co.uk> asked:

User: "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr."
Title: *Re: WARNING: A very simple* and innocuous CEASE-FIRE could trigger inexorable countdown to Armageddon.**	27 Jul 2006 10:28:03 AM

"Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE!" <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
wrote in message news:dshhc29nbjjisp6lr6557fq3dk67pjl7ph@4ax.com...

On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 05:32:14 -0500,
"H.E. Eickleberry, Jr." <Yeickleberrybooks@comcast.net> ...

...had NOTHING sensible to say in response to the post below.

<Inanities and lies flushed>

No, likes to it.
1) The end of the age is 70 years, not 7 (Jesus right to tarry [Psalm 90]
not withstanding).
2) There is no rapture of the church-at-large: Nobody was talking about the
church--they were talking about the remnant.
3) Nothing happens until after the Beginning of Sorrows, when the would-be
believers are run off via accusations, persecutions, discriminations, and
executions, and the faithful believers who keep the faith to the death are
gathered in the altar of God.
Get a clue.
Ike
--
www.eickleberrybooks.com
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User: "Ray Fischer"
Title: Re: To the PEACE Brokers: Absolutely Do * NOT * Make a Pact that's 7 YEARS Long!! Do NOT do that!!!	26 Jul 2006 10:04:15 PM

Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE! <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:

Kook.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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User: "Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE!"
Title: Re: To the PEACE Brokers: Absolutely Do * NOT * Make a Pact that's 7 YEARS Long!! Do NOT do that!!!	26 Jul 2006 10:38:43 PM

User: "Ray Fischer"
Title: Re: To the PEACE Brokers: Absolutely Do * NOT * Make a Pact that's 7 YEARS Long!! Do NOT do that!!!	27 Jul 2006 12:16:58 PM

Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE! <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:

Cultist.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.

User: "Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE!"
Title: Re: To the PEACE Brokers: Absolutely Do * NOT * Make a Pact that's 7 YEARS Long!! Do NOT do that!!!	27 Jul 2006 12:31:56 PM

User: "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr."
Title: Re: To the PEACE Brokers: Absolutely Do * NOT * Make a Pact that's 7 YEARS Long!! Do NOT do that!!!	27 Jul 2006 01:36:03 PM

"Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE!" <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
wrote in message news:34uhc2t6gdg935rnp4g5krlrqlql385ktd@4ax.com...

You most of all.

* Listed in great detail in Matthew 24

Yeah, all of which comes AFTER the Beginning of Sorrows part you cultist
keep cutting off the prophecy and circumventing with your rapture myths.

2. Figure out HOW those (thousands? millions?) of
people who *were* well-enough versed to see it
coming were almost entirely SILENT as those
signs of the times approached and then swept
over them like a tsunami. RATHER than sound a
**strident warning** to everyone about it by
any and all means possible, during those last,
crucial weeks and months.

Maybe becasue false prognosticators such as yourself sounded the alarm too
soon too many times.

3. Figure out HOW the vast majority of people who
*regarded* themselves to be Christians almost
*purposely* AVOIDED thinking about the End
Times signs... even when those signs were UPON
them!... rather than show great interest in them
and heed them. (Or, to put it another way, just
WHY did **most** of the very people who were
supposedly Jesus' believers live in DENIAL of the
*obvious* once the sign-storm swept over them?)
(It's almost like a repeat of Jesus last night, in the
Garden of Gethsemane; he agonized, but His
closest disciples SLEPT, instead of abiding with Him.)

LOL
You have yet to see the storm, nor the magnitude of it, cutting off the most
pertinent part of Jesus' prophecies with your myths and fables..

NEVER BEFORE in all human history have the signs of the End
of the Age, as presented in very precise detail by Jesus, Himself,
in Matt. 24, been so profoundly and simultaneously evident and
obvious.

LOL
The real signs haven't even begun yet (like streets lined with believers
hanging from trees).

Right at this moment, literally MILLIONS of Christians should
be screaming that from the (radio-tv-Internet-blog-print media)
"rooftops" as a final warning to the world that -- HEY!! This very
likely is about to be IT, everyone!!.

Yeah, they should be screaming something alright--the false prognosticators
such as you are full of crap and do the work of Satan.

INSTEAD, those professing Christians SLEEP through it!

LOL
The dark night has yet to begin, so there is nothing to sleep through...yet.

Jesus really wasted His breath when He provided us with
all those signs of His imminent return, didn't He?

Nope, but you waste Jesus' breath when you circumvent His prophecies with
your false predictions and false expectations.

What did we DO with that most vital information of all time
when the chips were down, and the end of the age of grace
was sweeping toward us inexorably like an avalanche???

Well, thanks to idiots like you, most of its potential is pretty much
trashed, which is why Paul rebuked those like you.

We IGNORED it.

One cannot ignore something that hasn't happened yet.
And when they come knocking on the doors looking for believers to kill, it
will be pretty hard to ignore.

We lived in DENIAL of it.

One cannot deny something that hasn't happened yet.
And when they come knocking on the doors looking for believers to kill, it
will be pretty hard to deny.

We lived in IGNORANCE of it.

One cannot be ignorant of something that hasn't happened yet.
And when they come knocking on the doors looking for believers to kill, it
will be pretty hard to be ignorant of.

We hypocritically WASTED that phenomenal knowledge.

No, people like YOU "wasted it" by distorting the message and going off
half-cocked.

We SLEPT through it!!

No one has slept through anything yet, moron.

When we COULD have used this last, most vital of all
opportunities to shout to the unsaved: "LOOK!! Here is a fully-
detailed grocery list of just EXACTLY what will be happening
immediately before Jesus returns. **DETAILED**!!

You haven't the foggiest notion of what is in the details.

Ask
yourselves THIS: 'Who among you can prophetically describe
the world of 2056... just FIFTY years from now... in ANY detail,
much less the world and society of the year 4006?' Jesus
did the equivalent of THAT, for our age, 2000 years in advance!
What MORE proof than *that* do you need in order to know
that He's for REAL -- and that He IS Lord?"

The only "proof" is in your mind.
And when nothing happens--AGAIN--everyone will know it, and dismiss prophecy
altogether.
And that's when the REAL trouble will start.

But no.

To our eternal SHAME... our **ETERNAL** shame!!... we
are BLOWING it. BIG-time. As *big* a "big-time" as it GETS.

The only one blowing it big-time is you, as predicted by the prophets.
"Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ,
and by our gathering together unto him, that ye be not soon shaken in mind,
or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as
that the day of Christ is at hand.
"Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come,
except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the
son of perdition, who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called
God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God,
shewing himself that he is God.
"Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these
things?"

If there are to be historians throughout eternity to come,
they will NEVER allow us to forget these days.

Yup. They'll never let you forget how you aided Satan in discrediting Bible
prophecy.

These VERY'
likely *final* weeks and months when we COULD have been
worth our salt to Jesus -- and then SLEPT instead.

Ooooh. Notice how he starts to qualify his false statements, i.e. "Very
likely final weeks."
You're just so full of *****, just like the idiots you listen to--Hal
Lindsey, Jack Van Impe, Grant Jeffery, John Hagee, etc. etc.
The whole lot of you have dug one hell of hole for every that has to follow
behind you and endure the humiliations of your false predictions and
declarations.

THINK about that!! REALLY think. Really, *REALLY* think!!

No, YOU think about it.
1) There isn't a single prophecy anywhere in the Bible that speaks of
prophetic events in terms of seven years, but there are seven that speak of
prophetic events in terms of seventy years. (Get it? "even unto seventy
times seven?").
2) Jesus never taught your "beam me up, Scotty" doctrine once, except in
regards to the remnant, i.e. "The elect who God shall choose." He always
taught fidelity to the end, even to the end of life, and He taught it as the
hallmark of the believers.
And one could go on and on talking about what Jesus said versus the cultic
nonsense you spout.

-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>

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LOL
And there will be a cease-fire, and nothing will happen, and there will be
the believers standing there with egg on their faces, trying to explain to
the scoffers how idiots like you don't know what you're talking about.
***** you fools.
Ike
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User: "Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE!"
Title: Re: To the PEACE Brokers: Absolutely Do * NOT * Make a Pact that's 7 YEARS Long!! Do NOT do that!!!	27 Jul 2006 11:08:49 PM

On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 13:36:03 -0500,
"H.E. Eickleberry, Jr." <Yeickleberrybooks@comcast.net> wrote:

Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:

You most of all.

Your totally ERRONEOUS opinion is noted for all to regard as such.

* Listed in great detail in Matthew 24

Yeah, all of which comes AFTER the Beginning of Sorrows part ..

Some does and some doesn't precede the Tribulation Period.

Maybe becasue false prognosticators <LIE-snip> sounded
the alarm too soon too many times.

Some people have done that, either out of ignorance, profiteering,
self-aggrandizement, or whatever. Unfortunately. But we have
never before these currently-unfolding events ever seen such a
perfect fit for the Bible's description of impending End-Times signs.

<stupidity-flush>

NEVER BEFORE in all human history have the signs of the End
of the Age, as presented in very precise detail by Jesus, Himself,
in Matt. 24, been so profoundly and simultaneously evident and
obvious.

The real signs haven't even begun yet (like streets lined with believers
hanging from trees).

As I pointed out, Matt. 24 contains aspects that are pre-Trib,
during-trib, and end-of-Trib.

<moronic-lie-flush>

INSTEAD, those professing Christians SLEEP through it!

The dark night has yet to begin, so there is nothing to sleep
through...yet.

They are sleeping through the warning signs pf IMPENDING
Rapture and Tribulation.

Jesus really wasted His breath when He provided us with
all those signs of His imminent return, didn't He?

<LIE-snip>
WHY did is snip your LIE? Because i generally don't REPEAT lies
in *my* posts. Pollute your OWN posts with 'em. I won't repeat
them in mine.
You realize, of course, that not only have you provided NO
substantiation for any of your whiney crap and lies, but you
haven't even TRIED to. Thus, you're proving yourself only to
be an idiot having ZILCH credibility.

What did we DO with that most vital information of all time
when the chips were down, and the end of the age of grace
was sweeping toward us inexorably like an avalanche???

<stupidity-flush>

We IGNORED it.

One cannot ignore something that hasn't happened yet.

They are ignoring the clear-cut SIGNS leading up to that which is
coming. Signs that Jesus SAID we should watch for.

And when they come knocking on the doors looking for
believers to kill, it will be pretty hard to ignore.

Jesus also said the pretty much the whole world will come to
hate Christians. When that happens, as it's starting to, we land
put the blame squarely upon the hateful, bigoted, and control-
freakish PSEUDO-Christians of the RRR Cut and their loathsome
agendas against human rights for it.

We lived in DENIAL of it.

One cannot deny something that hasn't happened yet.

Yes, they can. When they know something is inevitable, and
then are STUPID enough to live in denial of that eventuality.
<redundancy-flush>

We lived in IGNORANCE of it.

We hypocritically WASTED that phenomenal knowledge.

We SLEPT through it!!

No one has slept through anything yet.

They are sleeping through the obvious and prophesied signs.

You haven't the foggiest notion of what is in the details.

I do, as do all who read Matthew 24. It's plain English, especially
in the NIV.

Ask yourselves THIS: 'Who among you can prophetically describe
the world of 2056... just FIFTY years from now... in ANY detail,
much less the world and society of the year 4006?' Jesus
did the equivalent of THAT, for our age, 2000 years in advance!
What MORE proof than *that* do you need in order to know
that He's for REAL -- and that He IS Lord?"

The only "proof" is in your mind.

Damn, but you really are a DUMB cluck, aren't you? And you
just keep right on PROVING it. To all who read your idiocy.

And when nothing happens--AGAIN--everyone will know it,
and dismiss prophecy altogether.

I'd just LOVCE to be able to see the look on your face when
those prophecies are fulfilled! LOL!!!!

And that's when the REAL trouble will start.

But no.

To our eternal SHAME... our **ETERNAL** shame!!... we
are BLOWING it. BIG-time. As *big* a "big-time" as it GETS.

[ ... ]

"Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ,
and by our gathering together unto him, that ye be not soon shaken in mind,
or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as
that the day of Christ is at hand.
"Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come,
except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the
son of perdition, who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called
God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God,
shewing himself that he is God.
"Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these
things?"

Those ARE the events that appear now to be pretty imminent.

If there are to be historians throughout eternity to come,
they will NEVER allow us to forget these days.

These VERY' likely *final* weeks and months when we COULD
have been worth our salt to Jesus -- and then SLEPT instead.

THINK about that!! REALLY think. Really, *REALLY* think!!

The 70th week of Daniel -- a week of years (7 years; the Tribulation
Period, which may now, at last, be imminent) has been on hold for about
2,000 years. The Church Age that has followed Jesus' personal ministry
on earth.

2) Jesus never taught your "beam me up, Scotty" doctrine once, except in
regards to the remnant, i.e. "The elect who God shall choose." He always
taught fidelity to the end, even to the end of life, and He taught it as the
hallmark of the believers.

1 Corinthians 15:52
In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet
shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be
changed.

-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>

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***** you fools.

YOU are a total fool. And as such, you MAY get to experience
your wish.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
.

User: "Midwinter"
Title: Re: To the PEACE Brokers: Absolutely Do * NOT * Make a Pact that's 7 YEARS Long!! Do NOT do that!!!	26 Jul 2006 05:44:02 AM

Craig Chilton wrote:

SO -- WHATEVER YOU DO, Peace Brokers (and yes, that
probably includes you, Condi)... IF you concoct a peace pact
for the Mideast that is delineated by a time frame... be SURE
that you make it for 6 years... or 8 years... or *anything* BUT
** 7 ** years. ANYTHING else BUT that!!

This is interesting.
It appears you believe in Biblical prophecy - or at least an interpretation
thereof - yet you are apparently attempting to avoid the fulfilment of such
prophecy. Why would you, as a believer, wish to do so?
.

User: "Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE!"
Title: Re: To the PEACE Brokers: Absolutely Do * NOT * Make a Pact that's 7 YEARS Long!! Do NOT do that!!!	26 Jul 2006 06:35:05 AM

On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 05:44:02 -0500,
"Midwinter" <midwinter_m@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:

This is interesting.

It appears you believe in Biblical prophecy - or at least an
interpretation thereof - yet you are apparently attempting to
avoid the fulfilment of such prophecy. Why would you, as a
believer, wish to do so?

The key word is: "FORESTALL."
1. As GOOD as the Rapture will be for the believers
to whom it happens, it will be that BAD for the billions
who are unfortunate enough to have been left behind
when that happens.
A. Even though wondrous, the Rapture nevertheless
IS the equivalent of DYING. Being alive is the most
wondrous gift any person has ever experienced to
date. And it's valuable as seen by God/Jesus. Just
to cite one example... if it weren't, Jesus would have
regarded Lazarus' death to be no big deal, and not
have bothered to resurrect him. So there's NO point
in RUSHING the inevitable. Life should be lived as
long as possible. It would be crazy to want to see
it end sooner, if later were possible... even in the
case of the Rapture.
B. The beginning of the 7-year Tribulation Period will
spell the END of the Age of Grace/Church Age for
ALL who aren't Raptured. As many theologians see
it, that means that God will impose great DELUSION
from that moment on to all still UNsaved, who had
been given the chance to accept Christ and had
rejected Him... thus dooming *those* folks to
ultimately accepting the Mark of the Beast and being
doomed as a result for all eternity. For the rest,
there would lie the horrors of the Tribulation, which
for millions would mean becoming Tribulation Saints
by going to the guillotine for refusing the Mark, or
dying in any of the many horrific ways that the
world will be afflicted. Or being among those FEW
who could somehow scrabble their way through all
of that without the Mark.
(1) Welcoming the End Times at this juncture would
be an **extremely** SELFISH action on the part
of anyone hypocritical enough to think he were a
"Christian" when one considers the ramifications
of the above aspects. Right now, it's still possible
to be saved just by accepting Jesus' Gift and coming
to Him in repentance. That WON'T be possible for
the world's remaining billions after the Rapture takes
place.
(2) Bible prophecy makes it pretty clear that the Rapture
and the signing of the 7-year guarantee of peace
for Israel will probably occur almost simultaneously,
and that for those left behind, the identity of the
Anti-Christ first will become known for the first time
VERY soon after that.
2. The Rapture, Tribulation, and Second Coming all WILL
occur -- someday. Taking steps to help ensure that
"someday" isn't in the cards for THIS go-'round of
Middle-East events is simply the INTELLIGENT thing
to do, in light of all of the above points, IF indeed it is
possible still to forestall the inevitable for a few more
years or decades. Thus, for those who see the sense
of that, it is VITAL that world leaders be reminded NOT
to conclude a **7-year-long** peace pact.
B. For as long as the End Times events CAN be fore-
stalled (if such is possible by raising the consciousness
of world leaders to the importance of AVOIDING the
creation and enactment of a *7-year-long* peace
pact, people STILL can *continue* to come to Christ,
as I pointed out above. So making this effort NOW
is MOST worthwhile... even for the sake of ONE
additional soul -- let alone for millions, or even another
billion or more.
(1) WISHING for the Rapture to occur sooner rather
than later would therefore be the EPITOME of
UN-Christian selfishness on the part of those who
do so -- and they should be *reminded* of that --
and of the reasons why that is so.
Finally -- what could the NATURE of such a peace pact be,
if it were to occur at THIS point in human history? It could be
as SIMPLE and IMMEDIATE (and as seemingly innocuous) as a
mandated **cease-fire** to allow things to cool off and be dealt
with; such cease-fire to be in effect for 7 years. It would NOT
have to be a COMPLEX ("monumental") Peace Pact, per se. The
KEY aspects are: (1) a guarantee of peace for Israel, and (2) a
specification that said guarantee would be for a period of 7 years.
That's all. THAT simple. And something THAT simple could be
effected in mere hours or days from right now.
Leaders MUST be made aware of the necessity that THOSE
two aspects must NOT be allowed to converge.
For any who may have missed it, here's the entirety of my
previous post ---
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
To the PEACE Brokers:
**Absolutely** Do *** NOT *** Make a Pact
that's ** 7 YEARS ** Long!! Do NOT do that!!!
Middle East PEACE Brokers ---
If you broker a peace deal in the Middle East that is to
last specifically for 7 years, then there is absolutely NOTHING
left that can stand in the way of Armageddon seven years later...
the END of the age, literally... and the horrible DEATHS of over
**two billion people**.
NOTHING whatsoever!!
The Bible makes it crystal clear that when the 7-year count-
down clock begins is inexorable and irreversible ticking, it will
have been INITIATED by JUST such a pact!
SO -- WHATEVER YOU DO, Peace Brokers (and yes, that
probably includes you, Condi)... IF you concoct a peace pact
for the Mideast that is delineated by a time frame... be SURE
that you make it for 6 years... or 8 years... or *anything* BUT
** 7 ** years. ANYTHING else BUT that!!
READERS: Want to see what you'll be doing here on earth
10 years from now? Then ... no matter HOW damnably apathetic
you may be about everything ELSE... take a few minutes now
to do THIS:
FORWARD this message, or better yet, write one of your
own that says the same thing... to President Bush, both of your
U.S. Senators, your Congressperson, and every world leader
you think may have a role in making a Mideast Peace Pact.
Because if a pact is made in the near future for SEVEN YEARS,
the likelihood that your life here on earth SOON after that either
will be terminated by the Rapture... or that you will soon be
engulfed in a Tribulation Period that's worse than the darkest
days of Hitler's and Stalin's regimes -- during which you likely
will die -- is PROBABLE.
The ONLY way to make SURE that such a scenario does NOT
play out is to do your best to ENSURE that the Peacemakers
do NOT create a **7**-year pact!!
Thousands of people doing this could succeed.
If we do NOTHING, then we almost surely will get exactly
what we deserve, should such a pact be signed -- the above
scenario -- as a "reward" for our abject STUPIDITY.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
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User: "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr."
Title: Re: To the PEACE Brokers: Absolutely Do * NOT * Make a Pact that's 7 YEARS Long!! Do NOT do that!!!	27 Jul 2006 05:29:13 AM

"Craig Chilton -- Help to Make the USA Bigotry-FREE!" <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
wrote in message news:7rkec2dnubjg8mvlqud4o3p22nip3vdqd3@4ax.com...
[snip]

1. As GOOD as the Rapture will be for the believers
to whom it happens, it will be that BAD for the billions
who are unfortunate enough to have been left behind
when that happens.

LOL
There is no "rapture" of the church-at-large, and as "good" as you think
your myth turns out, that's how bad it will be for the believers during the
Beginning of Sorrows.
[snip]

B. The beginning of the 7-year Tribulation Period will
spell the END of the Age of Grace/Church Age for
ALL who aren't Raptured.

[snip]
LOL
The accusation, persecution, discrimination, and execution of the believers
will spell the "end of the church age," just like Jesus taught, and the end
of the age is not seven years.

(1) Welcoming the End Times at this juncture would
be an **extremely** SELFISH action on the part
of anyone hypocritical enough to think he were a
"Christian" when one considers the ramifications
of the above aspects. Right now, it's still possible
to be saved just by accepting Jesus' Gift and coming
to Him in repentance. That WON'T be possible for
the world's remaining billions after the Rapture takes
place.

LOL
Re 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the
everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every
nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

(2) Bible prophecy makes it pretty clear that the Rapture
and the signing of the 7-year guarantee of peace
for Israel will probably occur almost simultaneously,
and that for those left behind, the identity of the
Anti-Christ first will become known for the first time
VERY soon after that.

LOL
Bible prophecy makes it pretty clear that you don't know anything about
Bible prophecy.

2. The Rapture, Tribulation, and Second Coming all WILL
occur -- someday.

LOL
The Tribulation at the END of the sequence and the Second Coming, yes.
Your rapture myth, taken out of context and applied to the wrong people, no.

Taking steps to help ensure that
"someday" isn't in the cards for THIS go-'round of
Middle-East events is simply the INTELLIGENT thing
to do, in light of all of the above points, IF indeed it is
possible still to forestall the inevitable for a few more
years or decades.

LOL
The "intelligent" thing to do would be to learn what the Bible actually
says, set the record straight, and do the work of a minister of truth rather
than spread the cultist's fables.

Thus, for those who see the sense
of that, it is VITAL that world leaders be reminded NOT
to conclude a **7-year-long** peace pact.

Thus, for those who actually know prophecy, there is no stopping the
inevitable, the world going the way of the world, and the believers going
the way of the believers. Where did Jesus say anything about stopping
anything?

B. For as long as the End Times events CAN be fore-
stalled (if such is possible by raising the consciousness
of world leaders to the importance of AVOIDING the
creation and enactment of a *7-year-long* peace
pact, people STILL can *continue* to come to Christ,
as I pointed out above.

LOL
They're "conscious" off it--they know it is a joke, just like blowhards like
you.

So making this effort NOW
is MOST worthwhile... even for the sake of ONE
additional soul -- let alone for millions, or even another
billion or more.

What a putz. The Believers have always had it in the ability to save souls,
the workings of the world be damned, and that has never been contingent on
what the world does or does not do.

(1) WISHING for the Rapture to occur sooner rather
than later would therefore be the EPITOME of
UN-Christian selfishness on the part of those who
do so -- and they should be *reminded* of that --
and of the reasons why that is so.

LOL
1) Jesus never taught your rapture myth, so something that doesn't even
exist can't come "sooner" or "later."
2) The reason Jesus gave us the prophecies was to bolster the believers in
their hour of trial, NOT to look for some mythical springboard that isn't
coming, so the ultimate in "UN-Christian selfishness" is you teaching myths
and fables as dogmatic doctrine.

Finally -- what could the NATURE of such a peace pact be,
if it were to occur at THIS point in human history? It could be
as SIMPLE and IMMEDIATE (and as seemingly innocuous) as a
mandated **cease-fire** to allow things to cool off and be dealt
with; such cease-fire to be in effect for 7 years.

Yo, idiot: The covenant is to share the temple mount without requiring
repentance or conversion, first between Islam and Israel, then adding unwary
Christians (the antichrist CONFIRMS the covenant, not creates it), then
every other religion of the world in a universalistic free-for-all.
It has nothing to do with "ceasefires" or "peace agreements."

It would NOT
have to be a COMPLEX ("monumental") Peace Pact, per se. The
KEY aspects are: (1) a guarantee of peace for Israel, and (2) a
specification that said guarantee would be for a period of 7 years.
That's all. THAT simple. And something THAT simple could be
effected in mere hours or days from right now.

LOL
You haven't the foggiest notion what you're talking about.

Leaders MUST be made aware of the necessity that THOSE
two aspects must NOT be allowed to converge.

LOL
"Leaders" need to be aware of how screwed up your interpretation of prophecy
is, and that the Word of Truth and your silliness must not be allowed to
"converge."
[snip the pointless redundancy]
Ike
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User: "Midwinter"
Title: Re: To the PEACE Brokers: Absolutely Do * NOT * Make a Pact that's 7 YEARS Long!! Do NOT do that!!!	27 Jul 2006 08:05:23 AM

"H.E. Eickleberry, Jr." <Yeickleberrybooks@comcast.net> wrote:

LOL
LOL
LOL
LOL
Bible prophecy makes it pretty clear that you don't know anything
about Bible prophecy.
LOL
LOL
LOL
They're "conscious" off it--they know it is a joke, just like
blowhards like you.
What a putz.
LOL
1) Jesus never taught your rapture myth, so something that doesn't
even exist can't come "sooner" or "later."
Yo, idiot:
LOL
You haven't the foggiest notion what you're talking about.
LOL

I am struggling to find the part in the Bible where Jesus teaches his
followers to show this sort of supercilious self-righteousness
Could you direct me to the relevant chapter and verse, Ike?
.

User: "robpar"
Title: Re: To the PEACE Brokers: Absolutely Do * NOT * Make a Pact that's 7 YEARS Long!! Do NOT do that!!!	27 Jul 2006 10:13:37 AM

On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 08:05:23 -0500, Midwinter
<midwinter_m@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

"H.E. Eickleberry, Jr." <Yeickleberrybooks@comcast.net> wrote:

Bible prophecy makes it pretty clear that you don't know anything
about Bible prophecy.
They're "conscious" off it--they know it is a joke, just like
blowhards like you.

What a putz.
1) Jesus never taught your rapture myth, so something that doesn't
even exist can't come "sooner" or "later."

I am struggling to find the part in the Bible where Jesus teaches his
followers to show this sort of supercilious self-righteousness

Could you direct me to the relevant chapter and verse, Ike?

You have to read St. Paul the patron saint of bigots,
Christian don't follow the teachings of Christ. His teaching
don't support their bigotry. They also love Leviticus,
ignoring the parts they don't like.
.

User: "chelogsnok ginmil"
Title: Re: To the PEACE Brokers: Beware of the 7 YEAR ITCH of the Looney Bin Biblebangers	27 Jul 2006 12:00:12 PM

"robpar" <robpar@netportusa.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 08:05:23 -0500, Midwinter
<midwinter_m@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

"H.E. Eickleberry, Jr." <Yeickleberrybooks@comcast.net> wrote:

Bible prophecy makes it pretty clear that you don't know anything
about Bible prophecy.

They're "conscious" off it--they know it is a joke, just like
blowhards like you.

What a putz.

1) Jesus never taught your rapture myth, so something that doesn't
even exist can't come "sooner" or "later."

I am struggling to find the part in the Bible where Jesus teaches his
followers to show this sort of supercilious self-righteousness

Could you direct me to the relevant chapter and verse, Ike?

Don't forget Martin Luther also! (The Patron Saint of Protestant bigots...)
http://www.humanitas-international.org/showcase/chronography/documents/luther-jews.htm
On the Jews and Their Lies, Martin Luther (1483 - 1546)
--------------
.....and on the FUNNY SIDE comes this amusing story!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6396422/
"46-year-old gook leaps into den at Taipei Zoo, calls beasts to
Christianity"
(he was bit.......badly)
.

User: "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr."
Title: Re: To the PEACE Brokers: Beware of the 7 YEAR ITCH of the Looney Bin Biblebangers	27 Jul 2006 01:15:26 PM

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On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 08:05:23 -0500, Midwinter
<midwinter_m@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

"H.E. Eickleberry, Jr." <Yeickleberrybooks@comcast.net> wrote:

Bible prophecy makes it pretty clear that you don't know anything
about Bible prophecy.

They're "conscious" off it--they know it is a joke, just like
blowhards like you.

What a putz.

1) Jesus never taught your rapture myth, so something that doesn't
even exist can't come "sooner" or "later."

I am struggling to find the part in the Bible where Jesus teaches his
followers to show this sort of supercilious self-righteousness

The part that goes:
But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the
kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither
suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows'
houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the
greater damnation.
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and
land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more
the child of hell than yourselves.
Woe unto you, ye blind guides, which say, Whosoever shall swear by the
temple, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple,
he is a debtor! Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the
temple that sanctifieth the gold? And, Whosoever shall swear by the altar,
it is nothing; but whosoever sweareth by the gift that is upon it, he is
guilty.
Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gift, or the altar that
sanctifieth the gift? Whoso therefore shall swear by the altar, sweareth by
it, and by all things thereon. And whoso shall swear by the temple, sweareth
by it, and by him that dwelleth therein. And he that shall swear by heaven,
sweareth by the throne of God, and by him that sitteth thereon.
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of
mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the
law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to
leave the other undone. Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow
a camel.
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the
outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion
and excess. Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup
and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto
whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within
full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness. Even so ye also outwardly
appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the
tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous, And say,
If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers
with them in the blood of the prophets. Wherefore ye be witnesses unto
yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets. Fill
ye up then the measure of your fathers.
Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of
hell?
Or maybe:
2Th 2:1 �
Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ,
and by our gathering together unto him, That ye be not soon shaken in mind,
or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as
that the day of Christ is at hand.
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except
there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of
perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God,
or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God,
shewing himself that he is God.
Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?

Could you direct me to the relevant chapter and verse, Ike?

Every one in which Jesus tromped on false prophets and teachers.

Now there is an idiotic self-righteous statement.

Don't forget Martin Luther also! (The Patron Saint of Protestant
bigots...)

Try "Martin Luther, Patron Saint of Cult Destruction."

http://www.humanitas-international.org/showcase/chronography/documents/luther-jews.htm

On the Jews and Their Lies, Martin Luther (1483 - 1546)

And didn't they?
Ike
www.eickleberrybooks.com
.

User: "Midwinter"
Title: Re: To the PEACE Brokers: Beware of the 7 YEAR ITCH of the Looney Bin Biblebangers	27 Jul 2006 09:12:19 PM

"H.E. Eickleberry, Jr." <Yeickleberrybooks@comcast.net> wrote:

Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto
whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within
full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.

Oh, yes, of course: the exact same block of text that 'Pastor' Steve Winter
uses in his periodic attempts to rationalise his own bouts of invective and
convince himself he is righteous in the eyes of God.
"Jesus called them 'whited sepulchres', so therefore I'm allowed to hate
you and consider myself superior to you."
Not *quite* the point, I suspect. And even so, not a 'LOL' in sight...

Every one in which Jesus tromped on false prophets and teachers.

And you, presumably, would consider yourself a 'genuine' prophet or
teacher, would you, Ike?
.

User: "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr."
Title: Re: To the PEACE Brokers: Beware of the 7 YEAR ITCH of the Looney Bin Biblebangers	27 Jul 2006 09:28:17 PM

"Midwinter" <midwinter_m@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Xns980E20AECDE17BIINBCEPAGGFYBVV@216.196.109.145...

"H.E. Eickleberry, Jr." <Yeickleberrybooks@comcast.net> wrote:

Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto
whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within
full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.

Oh, yes, of course: the exact same block of text that 'Pastor' Steve
Winter
uses in his periodic attempts to rationalise his own bouts of invective
and
convince himself he is righteous in the eyes of God.

"Jesus called them 'whited sepulchres', so therefore I'm allowed to hate
you and consider myself superior to you."

Not *quite* the point, I suspect. And even so, not a 'LOL' in sight...

Every one in which Jesus tromped on false prophets and teachers.

And you, presumably, would consider yourself a 'genuine' prophet or
teacher, would you, Ike?

Yes.
One that knows the message, not the myth: "Be thou faithful unto death and I
will give you a crown of life."
Ike
www.eickleberrybooks.com
.

User: "Midwinter"
Title: Re: To the PEACE Brokers: Beware of the 7 YEAR ITCH of the Looney Bin Biblebangers	28 Jul 2006 06:51:27 AM

"H.E. Eickleberry, Jr." <Yeickleberrybooks@comcast.net> wrote:

And you, presumably, would consider yourself a 'genuine' prophet or
teacher, would you, Ike?

Yes.

One that knows the message, not the myth: "Be thou faithful unto death
and I will give you a crown of life."

So be it. Perhaps I merely imagined Jesus' warnings against pride.
.

User: "robpar"
Title: Re: To the PEACE Brokers: Beware of the 7 YEAR ITCH of the Looney Bin Biblebangers	27 Jul 2006 02:04:23 PM

On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 13:00:12 -0400, "chelogsnok ginmil"
<marmasette444@nosp.yahoo.com> wrote:

"robpar" <robpar@netportusa.com> wrote in message
news:inlhc253ttmt1d82rikqol60o30srtok79@4ax.com...

On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 08:05:23 -0500, Midwinter
<midwinter_m@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

"H.E. Eickleberry, Jr." <Yeickleberrybooks@comcast.net> wrote:

Bible prophecy makes it pretty clear that you don't know anything
about Bible prophecy.

They're "conscious" off it--they know it is a joke, just like
blowhards like you.

What a putz.

1) Jesus never taught your rapture myth, so something that doesn't
even exist can't come "sooner" or "later."

I am struggling to find the part in the Bible where Jesus teaches his
followers to show this sort of supercilious self-righteousness

Could you direct me to the relevant chapter and verse, Ike?

Don't forget Martin Luther also! (The Patron Saint of Protestant bigots...)

Oh yes, Martin Luther the Christians, Christian of course
Christians have many similar hero's.

http://www.humanitas-international.org/showcase/chronography/documents/luther-jews.htm

On the Jews and Their Lies, Martin Luther (1483 - 1546)

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....and on the FUNNY SIDE comes this amusing story!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6396422/

"46-year-old gook leaps into den at Taipei Zoo, calls beasts to
Christianity"
(he was bit.......badly)