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User: "Bible John"
Date: 30 Jul 2006 10:51:53 AM
Object: Tommie some tips on dealing with Roger
Take this from someone that has a ton of Roger type people constantly on my
butt.
Tommie I find no hard evidence to indicate Roger is nothing but an Atheist
or an Agnostic. In that event I do not think its wise to attack and bash him
as I strive not to do this with plain unbelievers. However those that claim
to be saved, yet teach another gospel (Steve Winter and Bible Bob as
examples) are a different story and they must be publicly exposed and
confronted as I try to do. These devils and antichrists are condemmed (Gal
1:8).
Tommie have you tried to love Roger? Roger needs love and its obvious he is
not getting much. Instead of fighting him why not try to love him? Jesus
said that we need to love those that persecute us. If you are a Lutheran (as
you claim) and born again in Christ by accepting his sacrifice on the cross
for your sins, then I think you should try to love Roger.You have the Holy
Spirit as Jesus said (John), and need to have fruit (Gal 5:22).
One man that is constantly on my butt named David Horn, I am trying to love.
Its hard, but it can be done. Yes I have made mistakes (and Horn will point
out all; these in a reply) but I think the Bible makes it clear that Horn is
unsaved and headed to Hell. Horn needs a savior and so does Roger.
John
PS- Tommie have you been Baptized? Acts 2:38 says that after salvation we
need to be Baptized. No I do not believe in Baptismal Regeneration theology
(as the false christians do like Steve Winter). But the Bible commands a
Baptism as a sign to others that you are saved.
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User: "127.0.0.1"

Title: Re: Tommie some tips on dealing with Roger 31 Jul 2006 12:09:08 PM
Bible John wrote:

Take this from someone that has a ton of Roger type people constantly on
my butt.

I've noticed this, what ever happend to Bev? She used to be on you like bees
on honey.

Tommie I find no hard evidence to indicate Roger is nothing but an Atheist
or an Agnostic. In that event I do not think its wise to attack and bash
him as I strive not to do this with plain unbelievers. However those that
claim to be saved, yet teach another gospel (Steve Winter and Bible Bob as
examples) are a different story and they must be publicly exposed and
confronted as I try to do. These devils and antichrists are condemmed (Gal
1:8).

What type of dogma does Winter and Bob spew?

Tommie have you tried to love Roger?

The adage of "Kill them with kindness" will not work with Roger. Roger has a
heart of darkness. To embrace Roger would be like embracing evil - we
should never to that.

Roger needs love and its obvious he
is not getting much.

I've heard that the Salzman's embrace Roger - I think there could be some
pics floating around of them together, I haven't seen them though.

Instead of fighting him why not try to love him?

Because he's mean. He spends his days on Usenet seeking out Gentiles to
flame. we're only required to turn the other cheek once, after that stand
your ground.

Jesus said that we need to love those that persecute us. If you are a
Lutheran (as you claim) and born again in Christ by accepting his
sacrifice on the cross for your sins, then I think you should try to love
Roger.You have the Holy Spirit as Jesus said (John), and need to have
fruit (Gal 5:22).

It's hard to love your enemies.

One man that is constantly on my butt named David Horn, I am trying to
love. Its hard, but it can be done. Yes I have made mistakes (and Horn
will point out all; these in a reply) but I think the Bible makes it clear
that Horn is unsaved and headed to Hell. Horn needs a savior and so does
Roger.

Not sure about this Horn guy, but Roger and his ilk are of the seedline of
Cain, the persecution they receive is God will.
Cain is seen as the opponent of his righteous brother Abel (Hebrews 11:4),
as a symbol for an evil way of living, Roger and his ilk seek to persecute
the righteous.

John

PS- Tommie have you been Baptized?

Yes, when I was very young.

Acts 2:38 says that after salvation we
need to be Baptized. No I do not believe in Baptismal Regeneration
theology (as the false christians do like Steve Winter). But the Bible
commands a Baptism as a sign to others that you are saved.

I agree.
.
User: "Roger"

Title: Re: Tommie some tips on dealing with Roger 31 Jul 2006 12:27:38 PM
In one age, called the Second Age by some,
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
someone claiming to be 127.0.0.1 wrote
in message <2254620.F9ezXKmmjh@OpenBSD>:

Bible John wrote:

Tommie have you tried to love Roger?

The adage of "Kill them with kindness" will not work with Roger.

Not that the idiot child has any kindness *in* zie.

Roger has a
heart of darkness. To embrace Roger would be like embracing evil - we
should never to that.

The only evil here is your mindless hate.

Roger needs love and its obvious he
is not getting much.

I've heard that the Salzman's embrace Roger - I think there could be some
pics floating around of them together, I haven't seen them though.

Haven't forged them, you mean.

Instead of fighting him why not try to love him?

Because he's mean. He spends his days on Usenet seeking out Gentiles to
flame.

Demonstrably wrong.

we're only required to turn the other cheek once, after that stand
your ground.

Really? Where is this "one time" specified in the Bible?

Jesus said that we need to love those that persecute us. If you are a
Lutheran (as you claim) and born again in Christ by accepting his
sacrifice on the cross for your sins, then I think you should try to love
Roger.You have the Holy Spirit as Jesus said (John), and need to have
fruit (Gal 5:22).

It's hard to love your enemies.

I'm only your enemy because of your dishonesty and hate.

One man that is constantly on my butt named David Horn, I am trying to
love. Its hard, but it can be done. Yes I have made mistakes (and Horn
will point out all; these in a reply) but I think the Bible makes it clear
that Horn is unsaved and headed to Hell. Horn needs a savior and so does
Roger.

Not sure about this Horn guy, but Roger and his ilk are of the seedline of
Cain, the persecution they receive is God will.

Once more, the idiot child pretends to know my "ilk."

Cain is seen as the opponent of his righteous brother Abel (Hebrews 11:4),
as a symbol for an evil way of living, Roger and his ilk seek to persecute
the righteous.

No, Roger simply points out your lies.
You know, like ducking the question of whether you are Lutheran or CI?

PS- Tommie have you been Baptized?

Yes, when I was very young.

Acts 2:38 says that after salvation we
need to be Baptized. No I do not believe in Baptismal Regeneration
theology (as the false christians do like Steve Winter). But the Bible
commands a Baptism as a sign to others that you are saved.

I agree.

Now, tell him what *else* you believe.
.

User: "Bible Bob"

Title: Re: Tommie some tips on dealing with Roger 31 Jul 2006 01:18:31 PM
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:09:08 -0400, "127.0.0.1" <NoSpam@Nospam.com>
wrote:

Bible John wrote:

Take this from someone that has a ton of Roger type people constantly on
my butt.



I've noticed this, what ever happend to Bev? She used to be on you like bees
on honey.

John speaks of his gay lifestyle and you try to cover for him by
introducing a female. That was nice of you to try to protect his
reputation; but he don't have one to protect.


Tommie I find no hard evidence to indicate Roger is nothing but an Atheist
or an Agnostic. In that event I do not think its wise to attack and bash
him as I strive not to do this with plain unbelievers. However those that
claim to be saved, yet teach another gospel (Steve Winter and Bible Bob as
examples) are a different story and they must be publicly exposed and
confronted as I try to do. These devils and antichrists are condemmed (Gal
1:8).



What type of dogma does Winter and Bob spew?

Ask Bob about his and ... no don't ask Steve, he will cuss you out.


Tommie have you tried to love Roger?


The adage of "Kill them with kindness" will not work with Roger. Roger has a
heart of darkness. To embrace Roger would be like embracing evil - we
should never to that.

Adages do not contain the power of God. Try what the word says:
Romans 12:21 KJV
Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.
Of course, it has to be done within the context of the verses that
precede it.



Roger needs love and its obvious he
is not getting much.


I've heard that the Salzman's embrace Roger - I think there could be some
pics floating around of them together, I haven't seen them though.


Instead of fighting him why not try to love him?


Because he's mean. He spends his days on Usenet seeking out Gentiles to
flame. we're only required to turn the other cheek once, after that stand
your ground.

Jesus said that we need to love those that persecute us. If you are a
Lutheran (as you claim) and born again in Christ by accepting his
sacrifice on the cross for your sins, then I think you should try to love
Roger.You have the Holy Spirit as Jesus said (John), and need to have
fruit (Gal 5:22).


It's hard to love your enemies.

Sinning can be hard to. When I was your age I had to work real hard
to convince girls to sin with me. But sin has consequences while love
produces rewards. What do you want, rewards or consequences?


One man that is constantly on my butt named David Horn, I am trying to
love. Its hard, but it can be done. Yes I have made mistakes (and Horn
will point out all; these in a reply) but I think the Bible makes it clear
that Horn is unsaved and headed to Hell. Horn needs a savior and so does
Roger.


Not sure about this Horn guy, but Roger and his ilk are of the seedline of
Cain, the persecution they receive is God will.
Cain is seen as the opponent of his righteous brother Abel (Hebrews 11:4),
as a symbol for an evil way of living, Roger and his ilk seek to persecute
the righteous.

Ignore John, he seems to have a lot of homosexual fantasies about men
being after his butt. They are just fantasies.


John

PS- Tommie have you been Baptized?


Yes, when I was very young.

Acts 2:38 says that after salvation we
need to be Baptized. No I do not believe in Baptismal Regeneration
theology (as the false christians do like Steve Winter). But the Bible
commands a Baptism as a sign to others that you are saved.


I agree.

Are you saying that you are not saved? Well that's easy to fix.
Confess Jesus as Lord and believe that God raised Jesus from the dead
and you will be saved and the moment you are saved you are baptized
without getting wet.
......
BB
http://www.biblebob.net
.


User: "=?iso-8859-1?B?M1do9nP2ZXZlcjM=?="

Title: Re: Tommie some tips on dealing with Roger 30 Jul 2006 11:14:34 AM
Bible John wrote:

the Bible makes it clear that Horn is
unsaved and headed to Hell. Horn needs a savior and so does Roger.

Your self-righteous, arrogant, and pompous attitude will one day be
your undoing, John Wolf.
.

User: "Roger"

Title: Re: Tommie some tips on dealing with Roger 30 Jul 2006 11:06:01 AM
In one age, called the Second Age by some,
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
someone claiming to be Bible John wrote
in message <1154274022_14269@sp6iad.superfeed.net>:

Take this from someone that has a ton of Roger type people constantly on my
butt.

Well, if you didn't post so many lies, they wouldn't be pointed out to
you.
Have you talked to the idiot child about his identification with the
CI movement?

Tommie I find no hard evidence to indicate Roger is nothing but an Atheist
or an Agnostic.

Care to try again, without the double negative?

In that event I do not think its wise to attack and bash him
as I strive not to do this with plain unbelievers. However those that claim
to be saved, yet teach another gospel (Steve Winter and Bible Bob as
examples) are a different story and they must be publicly exposed and
confronted as I try to do. These devils and antichrists are condemmed (Gal
1:8).

What about those who believe that Xtianity entire is a fraud
perpetuated by the Jews?

Tommie have you tried to love Roger? Roger needs love and its obvious he is
not getting much.

LOL -- as if you knew anything at all about my personal life.

Instead of fighting him why not try to love him? Jesus
said that we need to love those that persecute us. If you are a Lutheran (as
you claim)

No, zie is *not* a Lutheran. zie quit that church because they didn't
hate as much as zie does.
So now, zie's a Christian Identity follower.

and born again in Christ by accepting his sacrifice on the cross
for your sins, then I think you should try to love Roger.You have the Holy
Spirit as Jesus said (John), and need to have fruit (Gal 5:22).

One man that is constantly on my butt named David Horn, I am trying to love.
Its hard, but it can be done. Yes I have made mistakes (and Horn will point
out all; these in a reply) but I think the Bible makes it clear that Horn is
unsaved and headed to Hell. Horn needs a savior and so does Roger.

The state of Roger's soul is no one's business but Rogers.
Now, what does you saviour have to say about the lies both you and the
idiot child continue to post?

John

PS- Tommie have you been Baptized? Acts 2:38 says that after salvation we
need to be Baptized. No I do not believe in Baptismal Regeneration theology
(as the false christians do like Steve Winter). But the Bible commands a
Baptism as a sign to others that you are saved.

But Christian Identity types feel that baptism is *also* a fraud
perpetuated by the Jews.
.
User: "Bible Bob"

Title: Re: Tommie some tips on dealing with Roger 30 Jul 2006 08:42:22 PM
On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 16:06:01 GMT, Roger <roger@.> wrote:

In one age, called the Second Age by some,
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
someone claiming to be Bible John wrote
in message <1154274022_14269@sp6iad.superfeed.net>:

Take this from someone that has a ton of Roger type people constantly on my
butt.


Well, if you didn't post so many lies, they wouldn't be pointed out to
you.

Have you talked to the idiot child about his identification with the
CI movement?

What the CI movement?


Tommie I find no hard evidence to indicate Roger is nothing but an Atheist
or an Agnostic.


Care to try again, without the double negative?

In that event I do not think its wise to attack and bash him
as I strive not to do this with plain unbelievers. However those that claim
to be saved, yet teach another gospel (Steve Winter and Bible Bob as
examples) are a different story and they must be publicly exposed and
confronted as I try to do. These devils and antichrists are condemmed (Gal
1:8).


What about those who believe that Xtianity entire is a fraud
perpetuated by the Jews?

Tommie have you tried to love Roger? Roger needs love and its obvious he is
not getting much.


LOL -- as if you knew anything at all about my personal life.

Instead of fighting him why not try to love him? Jesus
said that we need to love those that persecute us. If you are a Lutheran (as
you claim)


No, zie is *not* a Lutheran. zie quit that church because they didn't
hate as much as zie does.

So now, zie's a Christian Identity follower.

What's a Christian Identity follower? Is it anything like the
apostate wolf in sheep's clothings alien anal probe denomination?


and born again in Christ by accepting his sacrifice on the cross
for your sins, then I think you should try to love Roger.You have the Holy
Spirit as Jesus said (John), and need to have fruit (Gal 5:22).

One man that is constantly on my butt named David Horn, I am trying to love.
Its hard, but it can be done. Yes I have made mistakes (and Horn will point
out all; these in a reply) but I think the Bible makes it clear that Horn is
unsaved and headed to Hell. Horn needs a savior and so does Roger.


The state of Roger's soul is no one's business but Rogers.

Now, what does you saviour have to say about the lies both you and the
idiot child continue to post?

I thought people called John the idiot child. Tommy, too? Is it a
club.


John

PS- Tommie have you been Baptized? Acts 2:38 says that after salvation we
need to be Baptized. No I do not believe in Baptismal Regeneration theology
(as the false christians do like Steve Winter). But the Bible commands a
Baptism as a sign to others that you are saved.


But Christian Identity types feel that baptism is *also* a fraud
perpetuated by the Jews.

......
BB
http://www.biblebob.net
.
User: "Roger"

Title: Re: Tommie some tips on dealing with Roger 31 Jul 2006 09:27:01 AM
In one age, called the Second Age by some,
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
someone claiming to be Bible Bob wrote
in message <slnqc25i79ekvhicgfhceaa727vp85khcj@4ax.com>:

On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 16:06:01 GMT, Roger <roger@.> wrote:

Have you talked to the idiot child about his identification with the
CI movement?

What the CI movement?

Assuming a missing apostrophe and s above, here's the CT movement:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_identity
<quote>
Christian Identity believers reject the beliefs of most modern
orthodox Christian denominations, and claim that modern Christian
Churches are teaching a heresy: the belief that God's promises to
Israel (through Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob) have been expanded to
create a spiritual people of "Israel," which constitutes the Christian
"Church". In turn, most modern Christian denominations and
organizations denounce Christian Identity theology as a heresy, and
condemn the use of the Christian Bible as a basis for promoting
anti-Semitism.
</quote>
.
User: "Bible Bob"

Title: Re: Tommie some tips on dealing with Roger 31 Jul 2006 01:09:48 PM
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 14:27:01 GMT, Roger <roger@.> wrote:

In one age, called the Second Age by some,
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
someone claiming to be Bible Bob wrote
in message <slnqc25i79ekvhicgfhceaa727vp85khcj@4ax.com>:

On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 16:06:01 GMT, Roger <roger@.> wrote:


Have you talked to the idiot child about his identification with the
CI movement?


What the CI movement?


Assuming a missing apostrophe and s above, here's the CT movement:

Correct assumption.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_identity

<quote>

Christian Identity believers reject the beliefs of most modern
orthodox Christian denominations, and claim that modern Christian
Churches are teaching a heresy: the belief that God's promises to
Israel (through Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob) have been expanded to
create a spiritual people of "Israel," which constitutes the Christian
"Church". In turn, most modern Christian denominations and
organizations denounce Christian Identity theology as a heresy, and
condemn the use of the Christian Bible as a basis for promoting
anti-Semitism.

</quote>

Thank you.
I see that had to get rid of the Bible to promote their doctrine.
Some people don't like truth. It interfers with their sinning.
......
BB
http://www.biblebob.net
.
User: "127.0.0.1"

Title: Re: Tommie some tips on dealing with Roger 31 Jul 2006 03:42:19 PM
Bible Bob wrote:

Thank you.

I see that had to get rid of the Bible to promote their doctrine.
Some people don't like truth. It interfers with their sinning.

No, we haven't got rid of our bible. What about you Bob? I would bet you
call yourself a "Judeo-Christian" am I right?
The term Judeo-Christian has entered our modern lexicon to the point where
no politician, George Bush on down, would dare even invoke the term
Christian heritage without adding the prefix, Judeo to it. The term
Judeo-Christian didn't even come into existence until after the Second
World War when Jews became supreme in their influence over major media.
The truth is that there is no such thing as Judeo-Christianity. That would
be like saying Satanic-Christianity. The religion now called Judaism did
not even come formally into existence until six hundred years after Jesus
Christ. It began with the codification of the Babylonian Talmud. In
Judaism, the Talmud is the supreme scripture, not the Old Testament. Only
Satanism can rival Judaism?s vicious hatred for Jesus Christ. The Talmud
even claims that Jesus Christ is being punished in hell by ?being boiled in
hot semen!?1
When I first read this hateful Talmudic quote, I just couldn?t believe it.
Maybe you don?t believe what I am saying right now, but read on and I will
prove to you that this quotation is accurate and that Judaism is
intrinsically and viciously anti-Christian. Judaism it the embodiment of
the same Satanic tradition that Christ condemned when He referred to ?the
synagogue of Satan.? (Rev. 2-9) What I say here I can prove in the
documented words of the most sacred texts of Judaism and in the clearly
documented words of the highest authorities of Judaism itself, and even
more importantly, in the scriptures of the New Testament.
Interestingly enough, Islam is much closer to Christianity than Judaism. For
instance, Judaism condemns the Virgin Mary as a prostitute and viciously
condemns Jesus an evil sorcerer and a *****. The Talmud even claims Jesus
was a sexual pervert who had intercourse relations with his donkey. In
stark contrast, although Islam certainly does not share all the Christian
views of Jesus Christ, it views Christ as a true prophet of God,
virgin-born, and that God resurrected Jesus from the dead. Ironically, the
chief religious book of Islam, the Qur?an, actually defends Jesus Christ
from the obscene slanders made against Him in the Jewish Talmud.
I know that I am shocking many of you who are hearing this for the first
time. I am sure some of you are thinking that this cannot be true! I don?t
blame you for thinking so because many of you have never been told of these
facts by the Jewish-dominated media or by the televangelists. So, I will
document these things for you right now in the little space I have here.
The Talmud not the Torah (Bible) is the chief authority of Judaism
Most Christians are under the impression that Judaism is primarily based on
the biblical Old Testament. Actually the ultimate authority for Judaism is
not the Bible but on what they call the Babylonian Talmud, a series of
writings set down in Babylon in the sixth century after Christ.
The American Heritage Dictionary describes the Talmud as ?constituting the
basis of religious authority for traditional Judaism.?
The authoritative Universal Jewish Encyclopedia compiled by the leading
Rabbinic organizations of the world, makes it very clear that the Talmud,
not the Torah or Old Testament, is the supreme authority for Judaism.
?Thus the ultimate authority for Orthodoxy is the Babylonian Talmud. The
Bible itself ranks second to it in reality, if not in theory. (Universal
Jewish Encyclopedia, ?Authority? pg. 637) 2
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User: "=?iso-8859-1?B?M1do9nP2ZXZlcjM=?="

Title: Re: Tommie some tips on dealing with Roger 31 Jul 2006 06:23:05 PM
127.0.0.1 wrote:

I would bet you
call yourself a "Judeo-Christian" am I right?

Umm...Tommie?
Remember a couple of weeks ago when I explained to you what
"Judeo-Christian" means? I explained that a person cannot be "a
Judeo-Christian", but that theological beliefs inclusive of both the
Old and New Testaments are called "Judeo-Christian". Why do you
stubbornly insist on making the same blatant mistakes over and over,
even when you have been shown that you are error? (Are you really
"Bible John Wolf"? Because that's what he does, too)
.
User: "JohnH"

Title: Re: Tommie some tips on dealing with Roger 31 Jul 2006 06:48:26 PM
3Wh=F6s=F6ever3 wrote:

127.0.0.1 wrote:

I would bet you
call yourself a "Judeo-Christian" am I right?


Umm...Tommie?

Remember a couple of weeks ago when I explained to you what
"Judeo-Christian" means? I explained that a person cannot be "a
Judeo-Christian", but that theological beliefs inclusive of both the
Old and New Testaments are called "Judeo-Christian". Why do you
stubbornly insist on making the same blatant mistakes over and over,
even when you have been shown that you are error? (Are you really
"Bible John Wolf"? Because that's what he does, too)

He had clearly said, "The truth is that there is no such thing as
Judeo-Christianity." How did you miss that? If he had said "that
there was such a thing," then you could assert that he believes a
person can be a Judeo-Christian, but he had plainly said, "that there
is no such thing." Had you read for context, you would have realized
that his question, which was the only thing that you had not snipped
out, was purely rhetorical. (Are you really Kelly A. Siebecke, aka
Nemesis, aka Whosoever, aka Whatever? Because she has reading
comprehension problems, too.)
.


User: "Bible Bob"

Title: Re: Tommie some tips on dealing with Roger 31 Jul 2006 04:12:39 PM
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 16:42:19 -0400, "127.0.0.1" <NoSpam@Nospam.com>
wrote:

Bible Bob wrote:


Thank you.

I see that had to get rid of the Bible to promote their doctrine.
Some people don't like truth. It interfers with their sinning.



No, we haven't got rid of our bible. What about you Bob? I would bet you
call yourself a "Judeo-Christian" am I right?

No. I do not Tommy. That would be pretty stupid.
I was a Gentile before I got saved. I never was a Jew. I don't knoiw
wher they came up with Judeo-Christian; but it probably refers to the
fact that Jews and Christians worship the same God as opposed to the
false gods such as Allah, Porky Pig, and the rest of them. Oh, I see
you are telling me where it came from below.

The term Judeo-Christian has entered our modern lexicon to the point where
no politician, George Bush on down, would dare even invoke the term
Christian heritage without adding the prefix, Judeo to it. The term
Judeo-Christian didn't even come into existence until after the Second
World War when Jews became supreme in their influence over major media.

Okay, so what? What's the big deal. As you grow older you will
realize that people often do wrong things that stem from wrong
thinking. You will also learn that some things you think are right
are wrong and some things you think are wrong are right. It's a
confusing world we live in because it is owned and operated by the
Satan franchise. He is the god of this world and he has jurisdiction
whether we like it or not. The only way to beat him is with the
rightly divided word of truth.


The truth is that there is no such thing as Judeo-Christianity. That would
be like saying Satanic-Christianity. The religion now called Judaism did
not even come formally into existence until six hundred years after Jesus
Christ. It began with the codification of the Babylonian Talmud. In
Judaism, the Talmud is the supreme scripture, not the Old Testament. Only
Satanism can rival Judaism?s vicious hatred for Jesus Christ. The Talmud
even claims that Jesus Christ is being punished in hell by ?being boiled in
hot semen!?1

Yea, I've heard stories about those mean ole Jew guys. Did you hear
the one about them eating circumcise skins? Did you hear that some of
the more devout ones can levitate and that other ones can speak
through animals? You will hear and read a lot of things in life
Tommy; some true some false; mostly false. There are good and bad in
every community of live.
Here's the key - don't let the bad mess up your life. Let the good
straighten it up.
Tommy are you afraid to walk outside at night? Are you afraid that
someone will rape, or sodomize, or rob you if you go outside at night?
If not, why not? If so, why so? You have a chocie to make, to live
in fear of those in the world or to live boldly fearing no one.
Bottom line is that all this Jew stuff is proof of fear in your life.
God has not given you the spirit of fear, but of power, and of love
and of a sound mind. It takes three things to overcome one negative.
Power, love, and a sound mind defeat fear. Perfect love casts out
fear of the life of the one doing the loving. Start loving and the
fear will be cast out by love.


When I first read this hateful Talmudic quote, I just couldn?t believe it.
Maybe you don?t believe what I am saying right now, but read on and I will
prove to you that this quotation is accurate and that Judaism is
intrinsically and viciously anti-Christian. Judaism it the embodiment of
the same Satanic tradition that Christ condemned when He referred to ?the
synagogue of Satan.? (Rev. 2-9) What I say here I can prove in the
documented words of the most sacred texts of Judaism and in the clearly
documented words of the highest authorities of Judaism itself, and even
more importantly, in the scriptures of the New Testament.

Interestingly enough, Islam is much closer to Christianity than Judaism. For
instance, Judaism condemns the Virgin Mary as a prostitute and viciously
condemns Jesus an evil sorcerer and a *****. The Talmud even claims Jesus
was a sexual pervert who had intercourse relations with his donkey. In
stark contrast, although Islam certainly does not share all the Christian
views of Jesus Christ, it views Christ as a true prophet of God,
virgin-born, and that God resurrected Jesus from the dead. Ironically, the
chief religious book of Islam, the Qur?an, actually defends Jesus Christ
from the obscene slanders made against Him in the Jewish Talmud.

I know that I am shocking many of you who are hearing this for the first
time. I am sure some of you are thinking that this cannot be true! I don?t
blame you for thinking so because many of you have never been told of these
facts by the Jewish-dominated media or by the televangelists. So, I will
document these things for you right now in the little space I have here.

The Talmud not the Torah (Bible) is the chief authority of Judaism

Most Christians are under the impression that Judaism is primarily based on
the biblical Old Testament. Actually the ultimate authority for Judaism is
not the Bible but on what they call the Babylonian Talmud, a series of
writings set down in Babylon in the sixth century after Christ.

The American Heritage Dictionary describes the Talmud as ?constituting the
basis of religious authority for traditional Judaism.?

The authoritative Universal Jewish Encyclopedia compiled by the leading
Rabbinic organizations of the world, makes it very clear that the Talmud,
not the Torah or Old Testament, is the supreme authority for Judaism.

?Thus the ultimate authority for Orthodoxy is the Babylonian Talmud. The
Bible itself ranks second to it in reality, if not in theory. (Universal
Jewish Encyclopedia, ?Authority? pg. 637) 2



Some day you will stop letting the fear of Jews, Muslims, and others
rule your life. Fear's got you Tommy. You are its puppet as long as
you respond to it.
......
BB
http://www.biblebob.net
.
User: "127.0.0.1"

Title: Re: Tommie some tips on dealing with Roger 31 Jul 2006 04:52:19 PM
Bible Bob wrote:

On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 16:42:19 -0400, "127.0.0.1" <NoSpam@Nospam.com>
wrote:

Bible Bob wrote:


Thank you.

I see that had to get rid of the Bible to promote their doctrine.
Some people don't like truth. It interfers with their sinning.



No, we haven't got rid of our bible. What about you Bob? I would bet you
call yourself a "Judeo-Christian" am I right?

No. I do not Tommy. That would be pretty stupid.

You're not being 'Politically Correct' Bob. How dare a Christian call
themself a Christing without throwing the word 'Judeo' in front of it.

I was a Gentile before I got saved. I never was a Jew. I don't knoiw
wher they came up with Judeo-Christian; but it probably refers to the
fact that Jews and Christians worship the same God as opposed to the
false gods such as Allah, Porky Pig, and the rest of them. Oh, I see
you are telling me where it came from below.

No we don't have the same God. Our Lord and savior has came in the flesh -
The Jews coming Messiah (There God will make war on the saints, he will
also be a great military leader)

The term Judeo-Christian has entered our modern lexicon to the point where
no politician, George Bush on down, would dare even invoke the term
Christian heritage without adding the prefix, Judeo to it. The term
Judeo-Christian didn't even come into existence until after the Second
World War when Jews became supreme in their influence over major media.


Okay, so what? What's the big deal. As you grow older you will
realize that people often do wrong things that stem from wrong
thinking.

It seems everyone is thinking that way, just turn on the TV, you hardly ever
hear anyone calling the themselves Christians anymore.

You will also learn that some things you think are right
are wrong and some things you think are wrong are right.

I know whats right, I read the bible. I also know all about the fraud Cyrus
Schofield and that many use his interpretations of scripture. Do not rely
on Schofield's writings.

It's a
confusing world we live in because it is owned and operated by the
Satan franchise. He is the god of this world and he has jurisdiction
whether we like it or not. The only way to beat him is with the
rightly divided word of truth.

When I try and tall the truth, you people call me an anti-semite. I agree
that this world is operated an run by the Satan franchise. The bible tells
us the devil will reign over the earth for a short time, that's whats going
on now. I will not be deceived as was written in the book of revelation -
the wold will wonder after the beast, well, not me - refuse to be mislead
by these false teachers that fill the airwaves.

The truth is that there is no such thing as Judeo-Christianity. That would
be like saying Satanic-Christianity. The religion now called Judaism did
not even come formally into existence until six hundred years after Jesus
Christ. It began with the codification of the Babylonian Talmud. In
Judaism, the Talmud is the supreme scripture, not the Old Testament. Only
Satanism can rival Judaism?s vicious hatred for Jesus Christ. The Talmud
even claims that Jesus Christ is being punished in hell by ?being boiled
in hot semen!?1


Yea, I've heard stories about those mean ole Jew guys. Did you hear
the one about them eating circumcise skins?

Never head that story, but I do know who the Bolsheviks were that murdered
60-million Gentiles during the Russian Revolution, I know the names of the
New York Bankers that financed this murder.

Did you hear that some of
the more devout ones can levitate and that other ones can speak
through animals?

You're being silly..

You will hear and read a lot of things in life
Tommy; some true some false; mostly false. There are good and bad in
every community of live.

And some things are hidden right in plane view, you just have to look a
little harder.

Here's the key - don't let the bad mess up your life. Let the good
straighten it up.

You don't do it like that. Google Babylonian Talmud - read, read , and read
some more. Then you say, this is how they see us, we need to see them the
same way, to not see them as they see us is to give them the upperhand.

Tommy are you afraid to walk outside at night? Are you afraid that
someone will rape, or sodomize, or rob you if you go outside at night?
If not, why not? If so, why so?

I'm not afraid of any of those things. I don't put myself in the situation
where such could take place.

You have a chocie to make, to live
in fear of those in the world or to live boldly fearing no one.
Bottom line is that all this Jew stuff is proof of fear in your life.

Jesus spoke out against them and he certainly wasn't afraid of them. Who was
it that called them a brood of vipers? who was it that went into the temple
and whipped them? Who told us they were of their father the devil? Jesus
wasn't the pacifist that some make him out to be...

God has not given you the spirit of fear, but of power, and of love
and of a sound mind. It takes three things to overcome one negative.
Power, love, and a sound mind defeat fear. Perfect love casts out
fear of the life of the one doing the loving. Start loving and the
fear will be cast out by love.

You want me to love the Anti-Christ?

When I first read this hateful Talmudic quote, I just couldn?t believe it.
Maybe you don?t believe what I am saying right now, but read on and I will
prove to you that this quotation is accurate and that Judaism is
intrinsically and viciously anti-Christian. Judaism it the embodiment of
the same Satanic tradition that Christ condemned when He referred to ?the
synagogue of Satan.? (Rev. 2-9) What I say here I can prove in the
documented words of the most sacred texts of Judaism and in the clearly
documented words of the highest authorities of Judaism itself, and even
more importantly, in the scriptures of the New Testament.

Interestingly enough, Islam is much closer to Christianity than Judaism.
For instance, Judaism condemns the Virgin Mary as a prostitute and
viciously condemns Jesus an evil sorcerer and a *****. The Talmud even
claims Jesus was a sexual pervert who had intercourse relations with his
donkey. In stark contrast, although Islam certainly does not share all the
Christian views of Jesus Christ, it views Christ as a true prophet of God,
virgin-born, and that God resurrected Jesus from the dead. Ironically, the
chief religious book of Islam, the Qur?an, actually defends Jesus Christ
from the obscene slanders made against Him in the Jewish Talmud.

I know that I am shocking many of you who are hearing this for the first
time. I am sure some of you are thinking that this cannot be true! I don?t
blame you for thinking so because many of you have never been told of
these facts by the Jewish-dominated media or by the televangelists. So, I
will document these things for you right now in the little space I have
here.

The Talmud not the Torah (Bible) is the chief authority of Judaism

Most Christians are under the impression that Judaism is primarily based
on the biblical Old Testament. Actually the ultimate authority for Judaism
is not the Bible but on what they call the Babylonian Talmud, a series of
writings set down in Babylon in the sixth century after Christ.

The American Heritage Dictionary describes the Talmud as ?constituting the
basis of religious authority for traditional Judaism.?

The authoritative Universal Jewish Encyclopedia compiled by the leading
Rabbinic organizations of the world, makes it very clear that the Talmud,
not the Torah or Old Testament, is the supreme authority for Judaism.

?Thus the ultimate authority for Orthodoxy is the Babylonian Talmud. The
Bible itself ranks second to it in reality, if not in theory. (Universal
Jewish Encyclopedia, ?Authority? pg. 637) 2



Some day you will stop letting the fear of Jews, Muslims, and others
rule your life. Fear's got you Tommy. You are its puppet as long as
you respond to it.

I happen to know were in the last days, they devil and their children (See
John-8-44 to see who the devils children are) I will not be deceived by
them, nor should you.

.....
BB
http://www.biblebob.net

.
User: "Bible Bob"

Title: Re: Tommie some tips on dealing with Roger 31 Jul 2006 05:59:22 PM
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 17:52:19 -0400, "127.0.0.1" <NoSpam@Nospam.com>
wrote:

Bible Bob wrote:

On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 16:42:19 -0400, "127.0.0.1" <NoSpam@Nospam.com>
wrote:

Bible Bob wrote:


Thank you.

I see that had to get rid of the Bible to promote their doctrine.
Some people don't like truth. It interfers with their sinning.



No, we haven't got rid of our bible. What about you Bob? I would bet you
call yourself a "Judeo-Christian" am I right?

No. I do not Tommy. That would be pretty stupid.


You're not being 'Politically Correct' Bob. How dare a Christian call
themself a Christing without throwing the word 'Judeo' in front of it.

I was a Gentile before I got saved. I never was a Jew. I don't knoiw
wher they came up with Judeo-Christian; but it probably refers to the
fact that Jews and Christians worship the same God as opposed to the
false gods such as Allah, Porky Pig, and the rest of them. Oh, I see
you are telling me where it came from below.



No we don't have the same God. Our Lord and savior has came in the flesh -
The Jews coming Messiah (There God will make war on the saints, he will
also be a great military leader)

Ye do err not knowing the scriptures; nor the power of God. The
church will be changed and raised before the events in Revealtion take
place. The parusia occurs before the events in Revelation. First,
Christ comes FOR His saints and then Christ comes WITH his saints. He
comes FOR the church before he comes WITH the church. Remember,
Tommy, the church is the body of Christ; the bridegroom. Israel is
the bride. Look at this verse carefully -
Revelation 1:10 KJV
I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great
voice, as of a trumpet,
The words "heard behind me" refers to time. He heard a voice as a
trumpet behind him in time.
1 Thessalonians 4:13-17 KJV
13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them
which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no
hope.
14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them
also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which
are alive [and] remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent
them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with
the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in
Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together
with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we
ever be with the Lord.
There is where the voice and trumpet sound. Before the events in
Revelation take place. Tommy, who is Revelation addressed to?
Think, Tommy. Who are you? Who are the people revelation is
addressed to:
Revelation 1:4 KJV
John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace [be] unto you, and
peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and
from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;
Those are future Jewish churches that exist after there are no more
Christian churches because the Christians have left the earth. All
those "angels of the churches" mentioned beginning in 1:20 are
Jewish. The Sheliach (or malak) hazzibbor angel of the assembly were
the constant ministers of the Synagoge, to pray, preach, and have
charge of the law and appoint its readers. Hence he was called an
episkopos, or overseer.
You are getting your churches mixed up. There is the church of the
body to which Christians belong and the church of the bride to which
Jews belong.


The term Judeo-Christian has entered our modern lexicon to the point where
no politician, George Bush on down, would dare even invoke the term
Christian heritage without adding the prefix, Judeo to it. The term
Judeo-Christian didn't even come into existence until after the Second
World War when Jews became supreme in their influence over major media.


Okay, so what? What's the big deal. As you grow older you will
realize that people often do wrong things that stem from wrong
thinking.


It seems everyone is thinking that way, just turn on the TV, you hardly ever
hear anyone calling the themselves Christians anymore.

Tommy -
Ephesians 6:12 KJV
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against
principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of
this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places].
What you see on TV is not spiritual (of God); but carnal and often is
the product of the god of this world who is Satan who is the prince of
the power of the air.
No, I don't get shook up because I know what the word of God says. I
deal with what God tells me to deal with. I;d be ashamed to call
myself a Christian, too, based on the behavior that many Christians
manifest that ruins the reputations who are convicted by guilt by
association.



You will also learn that some things you think are right
are wrong and some things you think are wrong are right.


I know whats right, I read the bible. I also know all about the fraud Cyrus
Schofield and that many use his interpretations of scripture. Do not rely
on Schofield's writings.

I don't know anything about him; but I know a little Bible. Today I
am working on a book that exposes false teachers, false prophets, and
the like. Give me an email address and I will email you a copy of
what I have got in first draft form.



It's a
confusing world we live in because it is owned and operated by the
Satan franchise. He is the god of this world and he has jurisdiction
whether we like it or not. The only way to beat him is with the
rightly divided word of truth.


When I try and tall the truth, you people call me an anti-semite. I agree
that this world is operated an run by the Satan franchise. The bible tells
us the devil will reign over the earth for a short time, that's whats going
on now. I will not be deceived as was written in the book of revelation -
the wold will wonder after the beast, well, not me - refuse to be mislead
by these false teachers that fill the airwaves.

Okay, I think I understand what you mean. Years ago, I read the Myth
of the Six Million, the book about the Khazars, and some other stuff
when I was ministering to a young man that belonged to a White Patroit
group located near Fort Bragg, North Carolina. I am familiar with
many of the charges against the Jews.
But here is the problem that a Christian is faced with and why what he
does towards Jews and Gentiles must be done in wisdom. The Bible says
that we are to love one another (of the same kind). We are to love
Christians. It does not say that we are to love Jews or Gentiles; but
it does say that we are to be good to them and it does say that we are
to overcome evil with good.
The religion practiced by the Jews today does not "seem" to me be the
same religion practiced by the Jews that lived during Jesus time. But
I do not attend their churches or read their doctrines and so I cannot
say for sure. I darn sure don't beleive books written by men who lie.
What I can do, if they are minions of Satan, is try to win them away
from Satan to the Lord Jesus Christ. That's how we defeat Satan, get
rid of false religionists, and build the church of the body. But that
is done on a one by one basis - each one reach one. If I rech one and
yuou reach one, that's two and those two reach one that's four. Paul
took the word over Asia minor that way in three years and the fat has
never been duplicated that I know of.
What are you going to do? Be another phoney evangelist and get 50,000
Jews in a stadiuim lie to them about how to be saved, get their money
from them and then laugh like hell to yourself knowing that you fooled
them into thinking they are saved so they won't try to get saved the
right way? What do you want crispy critters or a big family for God?


The truth is that there is no such thing as Judeo-Christianity. That would
be like saying Satanic-Christianity. The religion now called Judaism did
not even come formally into existence until six hundred years after Jesus
Christ. It began with the codification of the Babylonian Talmud. In
Judaism, the Talmud is the supreme scripture, not the Old Testament. Only
Satanism can rival Judaism?s vicious hatred for Jesus Christ. The Talmud
even claims that Jesus Christ is being punished in hell by ?being boiled
in hot semen!?1


Yea, I've heard stories about those mean ole Jew guys. Did you hear
the one about them eating circumcise skins?


Never head that story, but I do know who the Bolsheviks were that murdered
60-million Gentiles during the Russian Revolution, I know the names of the
New York Bankers that financed this murder.



Did you hear that some of
the more devout ones can levitate and that other ones can speak
through animals?


You're being silly..

Am I? Witchcraft was practiced by the Jews in the Old Testament and
they paid the price for it.


You will hear and read a lot of things in life
Tommy; some true some false; mostly false. There are good and bad in
every community of live.


And some things are hidden right in plane view, you just have to look a
little harder.

And all that eye strain can cause optical illusions. It's better to
sit back and let God show you what is going on. But he can only do
that when your mind is peaceful and ready to receive what He has to
give you.


Here's the key - don't let the bad mess up your life. Let the good
straighten it up.


You don't do it like that. Google Babylonian Talmud - read, read , and read
some more. Then you say, this is how they see us, we need to see them the
same way, to not see them as they see us is to give them the upperhand.

Nuke em till they glow?


Tommy are you afraid to walk outside at night? Are you afraid that
someone will rape, or sodomize, or rob you if you go outside at night?
If not, why not? If so, why so?


I'm not afraid of any of those things. I don't put myself in the situation
where such could take place.

That's smart.


You have a chocie to make, to live
in fear of those in the world or to live boldly fearing no one.
Bottom line is that all this Jew stuff is proof of fear in your life.



Jesus spoke out against them and he certainly wasn't afraid of them. Who was
it that called them a brood of vipers? who was it that went into the temple
and whipped them? Who told us they were of their father the devil? Jesus
wasn't the pacifist that some make him out to be...

That was religious hypocrits children of Satan.


God has not given you the spirit of fear, but of power, and of love
and of a sound mind. It takes three things to overcome one negative.
Power, love, and a sound mind defeat fear. Perfect love casts out
fear of the life of the one doing the loving. Start loving and the
fear will be cast out by love.



You want me to love the Anti-Christ?

You can't. He hasn't been revealed yet. But you should not love the
spirit of anti-Christ or have fellowship with it once you find out
what it is.


When I first read this hateful Talmudic quote, I just couldn?t believe it.
Maybe you don?t believe what I am saying right now, but read on and I will
prove to you that this quotation is accurate and that Judaism is
intrinsically and viciously anti-Christian. Judaism it the embodiment of
the same Satanic tradition that Christ condemned when He referred to ?the
synagogue of Satan.? (Rev. 2-9) What I say here I can prove in the
documented words of the most sacred texts of Judaism and in the clearly
documented words of the highest authorities of Judaism itself, and even
more importantly, in the scriptures of the New Testament.

Interestingly enough, Islam is much closer to Christianity than Judaism.
For instance, Judaism condemns the Virgin Mary as a prostitute and
viciously condemns Jesus an evil sorcerer and a *****. The Talmud even
claims Jesus was a sexual pervert who had intercourse relations with his
donkey. In stark contrast, although Islam certainly does not share all the
Christian views of Jesus Christ, it views Christ as a true prophet of God,
virgin-born, and that God resurrected Jesus from the dead. Ironically, the
chief religious book of Islam, the Qur?an, actually defends Jesus Christ
from the obscene slanders made against Him in the Jewish Talmud.

I know that I am shocking many of you who are hearing this for the first
time. I am sure some of you are thinking that this cannot be true! I don?t
blame you for thinking so because many of you have never been told of
these facts by the Jewish-dominated media or by the televangelists. So, I
will document these things for you right now in the little space I have
here.

The Talmud not the Torah (Bible) is the chief authority of Judaism

Most Christians are under the impression that Judaism is primarily based
on the biblical Old Testament. Actually the ultimate authority for Judaism
is not the Bible but on what they call the Babylonian Talmud, a series of
writings set down in Babylon in the sixth century after Christ.

The American Heritage Dictionary describes the Talmud as ?constituting the
basis of religious authority for traditional Judaism.?

The authoritative Universal Jewish Encyclopedia compiled by the leading
Rabbinic organizations of the world, makes it very clear that the Talmud,
not the Torah or Old Testament, is the supreme authority for Judaism.

?Thus the ultimate authority for Orthodoxy is the Babylonian Talmud. The
Bible itself ranks second to it in reality, if not in theory. (Universal
Jewish Encyclopedia, ?Authority? pg. 637) 2



Some day you will stop letting the fear of Jews, Muslims, and others
rule your life. Fear's got you Tommy. You are its puppet as long as
you respond to it.


I happen to know were in the last days, they devil and their children (See
John-8-44 to see who the devils children are) I will not be deceived by
them, nor should you.

I know who the seed of the serpent are, Tommy. They are in key
leadership positions in churches of all faiths, in government, the
media; anyplace where large numbers of people can be influenced just
as they were when Jesus confronted them in John 8:44.
Jesus came to call out the lost sheep of the house of Israel; not the
Gentiles. He separated the goats from the sheep. He showed us who
the goats are and who the sheep are. We have to follow his example
and distinguish between the goats and the sheep.
Tommy, people follow people. It is not the followers; but the leaders
that need to be dealt with. They use spiritual weaponry and to defeat
them you mustuse spiritual weaponry. David got away with stoning
Goliath because God was with him. If you chose to sling rocks at the
spiritual heavies that work for Satan; he will kick your *****. You need
one of those BMG's from the Spear of Destiny game (or holy spirit) to
deal with his boys.


.....
BB
http://www.biblebob.net

......
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http://www.biblebob.net
.
User: "127.0.0.1"

Title: Re: Tommie some tips on dealing with Roger 31 Jul 2006 07:50:20 PM
Bible Bob wrote:

On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 17:52:19 -0400, "127.0.0.1" <NoSpam@Nospam.com>
wrote:

Bible Bob wrote:

On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 16:42:19 -0400, "127.0.0.1" <NoSpam@Nospam.com>
wrote:

Bible Bob wrote:


Thank you.

I see that had to get rid of the Bible to promote their doctrine.
Some people don't like truth. It interfers with their sinning.



No, we haven't got rid of our bible. What about you Bob? I would bet you
call yourself a "Judeo-Christian" am I right?

No. I do not Tommy. That would be pretty stupid.


You're not being 'Politically Correct' Bob. How dare a Christian call
themself a Christing without throwing the word 'Judeo' in front of it.

I was a Gentile before I got saved. I never was a Jew. I don't knoiw
wher they came up with Judeo-Christian; but it probably refers to the
fact that Jews and Christians worship the same God as opposed to the
false gods such as Allah, Porky Pig, and the rest of them. Oh, I see
you are telling me where it came from below.



No we don't have the same God. Our Lord and savior has came in the flesh -
The Jews coming Messiah (There God will make war on the saints, he will
also be a great military leader)


Ye do err not knowing the scriptures; nor the power of God. The
church will be changed and raised before the events in Revealtion take
place.

I disagree, I believe that Christians will be on the earth when the things
foretold in the book of Revelation take place. Example, the mark of the
beast, many Christians will take this mark, also many Christians will be
persecuted for following the teachings of Christ. These things will come to
pass, they will be a test of faith.

The parusia occurs before the events in Revelation. First,
Christ comes FOR His saints and then Christ comes WITH his saints. He
comes FOR the church before he comes WITH the church. Remember,
Tommy, the church is the body of Christ; the bridegroom. Israel is
the bride. Look at this verse carefully -

I'm not sure I know what you mean here. As for Israel, Israel is a people,
not a line on some map drew up by the U.N.

Revelation 1:10 KJV
I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great
voice, as of a trumpet,

The words "heard behind me" refers to time. He heard a voice as a
trumpet behind him in time.

1 Thessalonians 4:13-17 KJV
13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them
which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no
hope.
14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them
also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which
are alive [and] remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent
them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with
the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in
Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together
with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we
ever be with the Lord.

Right, And what about those that don't believe that Jesus died and rose
again, i.e. the Jews and Arabs? Are they not Anti-Christ.

There is where the voice and trumpet sound. Before the events in
Revelation take place. Tommy, who is Revelation addressed to?
Think, Tommy. Who are you? Who are the people revelation is
addressed to:

Are you suggesting that Christians will not be on the earth when the
Anti-Christ/ Beast of Revelation takes power on the earth?

Revelation 1:4 KJV
John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace [be] unto you, and
peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and
from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;

Those are future Jewish churches that exist after there are no more
Christian churches because the Christians have left the earth.

But the Jews will be worshiping their coming Messiah during this time. From
what I understand 144,000 will convert and Jesus will off the rest.

All
those "angels of the churches" mentioned beginning in 1:20 are
Jewish. The Sheliach (or malak) hazzibbor angel of the assembly were
the constant ministers of the Synagoge, to pray, preach, and have
charge of the law and appoint its readers. Hence he was called an
episkopos, or overseer.

You are getting your churches mixed up. There is the church of the
body to which Christians belong and the church of the bride to which
Jews belong.



Jews have no church, they broke their covenant with God.
Gospel of Matthew.
3:7
The Pharisees and Sadducees are called poisonous snakes
---     
12:34
The Pharisees are called evil poisonous snakes
---
15:3-9
Condemnation of the Pharisees for rejecting the commandments
---
15:12-14
The Pharisees are called blind guides leading the blind
---
16:6
Beware of the yeast of the Pharisees and Sadducees
---
19:3-9
The Pharisees are said to be hard-hearted
---
19:28
The disciples of Jesus will judge the twelve tribes of Israel
---
22:18
The Pharisees are called hypocrites
---
23:13-36
The scribes and Pharisees are repeatedly vilified as hypocrites
---
23:38
The house of Jerusalem is to be forsaken and desolate
---
26:59-68
The chief priests and council condemn Jesus as deserving death
---
27:1-26
The people demand that Jesus, not Barabbas, be crucified
---
27:62-66
The chief priests and Pharisees request a guard at Jesus' tomb
---     
28:4
The guards tremble and become like dead when the angel appears
---     
28:11-15
The chief priest bribe the guards to lie about their actions

The term Judeo-Christian has entered our modern lexicon to the point
where no politician, George Bush on down, would dare even invoke the
term Christian heritage without adding the prefix, Judeo to it. The term
Judeo-Christian didn't even come into existence until after the Second
World War when Jews became supreme in their influence over major media.


Okay, so what? What's the big deal. As you grow older you will
realize that people often do wrong things that stem from wrong
thinking.


It seems everyone is thinking that way, just turn on the TV, you hardly
ever hear anyone calling the themselves Christians anymore.


Tommy -

Ephesians 6:12 KJV
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against
principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of
this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places].

What you see on TV is not spiritual (of God); but carnal and often is
the product of the god of this world who is Satan who is the prince of
the power of the air.

Amen to that.

No, I don't get shook up because I know what the word of God says. I
deal with what God tells me to deal with. I;d be ashamed to call
myself a Christian, too, based on the behavior that many Christians
manifest that ruins the reputations who are convicted by guilt by
association.

Many people listen to these guys like Falwell, Roberston and Hagge and
believe everything these people say as being the gospel truth.

You will also learn that some things you think are right
are wrong and some things you think are wrong are right.


I know whats right, I read the bible. I also know all about the fraud
Cyrus Schofield and that many use his interpretations of scripture. Do not
rely on Schofield's writings.


I don't know anything about him; but I know a little Bible.

Most of the bible is based on Schofield's interpretation. They have the
Schofield bible. If you have a bible that has scripture interpretation,
chances are that interpretation came from Schofield.

Today I
am working on a book that exposes false teachers, false prophets, and
the like. Give me an email address and I will email you a copy of
what I have got in first draft form.

tommy1414@hushmail.com

It's a
confusing world we live in because it is owned and operated by the
Satan franchise. He is the god of this world and he has jurisdiction
whether we like it or not. The only way to beat him is with the
rightly divided word of truth.


When I try and tall the truth, you people call me an anti-semite. I agree
that this world is operated an run by the Satan franchise. The bible tells
us the devil will reign over the earth for a short time, that's whats
going on now. I will not be deceived as was written in the book of
revelation - the wold will wonder after the beast, well, not me - refuse
to be mislead by these false teachers that fill the airwaves.


Okay, I think I understand what you mean. Years ago, I read the Myth
of the Six Million, the book about the Khazars, and some other stuff
when I was ministering to a young man that belonged to a White Patroit
group located near Fort Bragg, North Carolina. I am familiar with
many of the charges against the Jews.

If you take a look around, you will see that Jews killed Christ 2,000 years
ago and are trying to kill everything he stands for today.. Google and read
up on the ACLU (Look at the last names of the lawyers) Google Jews+Porn and
look at who's running the porn industry, go back and look at who started
the feminist movement, go to the ADL and look at their promotion of
homosexuality and everything vile, when you watch a movie on tv that
promotes these stuff, take a few minutes after the movie and read the last
names of the writers, directors and producers - You will begin to see a
pattern emerge.
I'll show you how far they've gone.
http://www.hatelawsexposed.org/alerts/philly11setup.htm
That's what the ADL tried to do to 11 Christians.
The goal is to make hate criminals out of Christians.
They will take prayer out of school and bring in a homosexual agenda, they
do this in the name of TEACHING TOLERANCE, that's not their objective or
goal. All that's evil becomes good, and all that's good becomes evil. And
some of us know who's behind it..

But here is the problem that a Christian is faced with and why what he
does towards Jews and Gentiles must be done in wisdom. The Bible says
that we are to love one another (of the same kind). We are to love
Christians. It does not say that we are to love Jews or Gentiles; but
it does say that we are to be good to them and it does say that we are
to overcome evil with good.

What's wrong with seeing Jews as they see Gentiles? It seems fair to me?

The religion practiced by the Jews today does not "seem" to me be the
same religion practiced by the Jews that lived during Jesus time. But
I do not attend their churches or read their doctrines and so I cannot
say for sure. I darn sure don't beleive books written by men who lie.
What I can do, if they are minions of Satan, is try to win them away
from Satan to the Lord Jesus Christ.

Yes, but look what happens when people try that.
http://judicial-inc.biz/church_fires_in_alabama.htm

That's how we defeat Satan, get
rid of false religionists, and build the church of the body. But that
is done on a one by one basis - each one reach one. If I rech one and
yuou reach one, that's two and those two reach one that's four. Paul
took the word over Asia minor that way in three years and the fat has
never been duplicated that I know of.

You have very few Christians alive today that are that dedicated.

What are you going to do? Be another phoney evangelist and get 50,000
Jews in a stadiuim lie to them about how to be saved, get their money
from them and then laugh like hell to yourself knowing that you fooled
them into thinking they are saved so they won't try to get saved the
right way? What do you want crispy critters or a big family for God?

People should be saved the right way. The ones God is really going to punish
are those that lead their flocks astray to make a few bucks.

The truth is that there is no such thing as Judeo-Christianity. That
would be like saying Satanic-Christianity. The religion now called
Judaism did not even come formally into existence until six hundred
years after Jesus Christ. It began with the codification of the
Babylonian Talmud. In Judaism, the Talmud is the supreme scripture, not
the Old Testament. Only Satanism can rival Judaism?s vicious hatred for
Jesus Christ. The Talmud even claims that Jesus Christ is being punished
in hell by ?being boiled in hot semen!?1


Yea, I've heard stories about those mean ole Jew guys. Did you hear
the one about them eating circumcise skins?


Never head that story, but I do know who the Bolsheviks were that murdered
60-million Gentiles during the Russian Revolution, I know the names of the
New York Bankers that financed this murder.



Did you hear that some of
the more devout ones can levitate and that other ones can speak
through animals?


You're being silly..


Am I? Witchcraft was practiced by the Jews in the Old Testament and
they paid the price for it.

They practice it today too, Its called Kaballa.

You will hear and read a lot of things in life
Tommy; some true some false; mostly false. There are good and bad in
every community of live.


And some things are hidden right in plane view, you just have to look a
little harder.


And all that eye strain can cause optical illusions. It's better to
sit back and let God show you what is going on. But he can only do
that when your mind is peaceful and ready to receive what He has to
give you.

He has shown me the way.... Many Christians have been deceived to believe
that the Anit-Christ will be this one supreme being.. THAT'S NOT TRUE, they
have been here from the beginning and they are MANY.
ANTI-CHRISTS IDENTIFIED:
1 John 2: 18 "Young children, it is the last hour, and, just as you have
heard that antichrist is coming, even now there have come to be many
antichrists."
1 John 2: 22,23 "Who is the liar if it is not the one that denies that Jesus
is the Christ [or Messiah]? These things I write you about those who are
trying to mislead you!"
============
REMEMBER THE QUOTE BOB.
============
1 John 4: 2,3 "You gain knowledge of the inspired expression from God by
this: Every inspired expression that confesses Jesus Christ as having come
in the flesh originates with God, but every inspired expression that does
not confess Jesus does not originate with God, Furthermore this is the
antichrist's inspired expression which you have heard was coming, and now
it is already in the world."
============
THE BEAST IS IN THE WORLD BOB.
============
2 John 7,10,11 "For many deceivers have gone forth into the world, persons
not confessing Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver
and the antichrist. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this
teaching, never receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him. For
he that says a greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works."
================
SO IF A JEW OR MUSLEM WERE TO COME TO YOUR HOME, DO NOT RECEIVE HIM
================
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Having any sympathy for the anti-Christ offspring of Belial (aka Lucifer) is
having SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL (who is their proud father who inspires them)-
which is at its core demonic and un-Christian!

Here's the key - don't let the bad mess up your life. Let the good
straighten it up.


You don't do it like that. Google Babylonian Talmud - read, read , and
read some more. Then you say, this is how they see us, we need to see them
the same way, to not see them as they see us is to give them the
upperhand.


Nuke em till they glow?

That's not my place. God will deal with them

Tommy are you afraid to walk outside at night? Are you afraid that
someone will rape, or sodomize, or rob you if you go outside at night?
If not, why not? If so, why so?


I'm not afraid of any of those things. I don't put myself in the situation
where such could take place.

That's smart.


You have a chocie to make, to live
in fear of those in the world or to live boldly fearing no one.
Bottom line is that all this Jew stuff is proof of fear in your life.



Jesus spoke out against them and he certainly wasn't afraid of them. Who
was it that called them a brood of vipers? who was it that went into the
temple and whipped them? Who told us they were of their father the devil?
Jesus wasn't the pacifist that some make him out to be...


That was religious hypocrits children of Satan.

And their offspring?

God has not given you the spirit of fear, but of power, and of love
and of a sound mind. It takes three things to overcome one negative.
Power, love, and a sound mind defeat fear. Perfect love casts out
fear of the life of the one doing the loving. Start loving and the
fear will be cast out by love.



You want me to love the Anti-Christ?


You can't. He hasn't been revealed yet. But you should not love the
spirit of anti-Christ or have fellowship with it once you find out
what it is.

Look at the Scriptures I quoted above.

When I first read this hateful Talmudic quote, I just couldn?t believe
it. Maybe you don?t believe what I am saying right now, but read on and
I will prove to you that this quotation is accurate and that Judaism is
intrinsically and viciously anti-Christian. Judaism it the embodiment of
the same Satanic tradition that Christ condemned when He referred to
?the synagogue of Satan.? (Rev. 2-9) What I say here I can prove in the
documented words of the most sacred texts of Judaism and in the clearly
documented words of the highest authorities of Judaism itself, and even
more importantly, in the scriptures of the New Testament.

Interestingly enough, Islam is much closer to Christianity than Judaism.
For instance, Judaism condemns the Virgin Mary as a prostitute and
viciously condemns Jesus an evil sorcerer and a *****. The Talmud even
claims Jesus was a sexual pervert who had intercourse relations with his
donkey. In stark contrast, although Islam certainly does not share all
the Christian views of Jesus Christ, it views Christ as a true prophet
of God, virgin-born, and that God resurrected Jesus from the dead.
Ironically, the chief religious book of Islam, the Qur?an, actually
defends Jesus Christ from the obscene slanders made against Him in the
Jewish Talmud.

I know that I am shocking many of you who are hearing this for the first
time. I am sure some of you are thinking that this cannot be true! I
don?t blame you for thinking so because many of you have never been told
of these facts by the Jewish-dominated media or by the televangelists.
So, I will document these things for you right now in the little space I
have here.

The Talmud not the Torah (Bible) is the chief authority of Judaism

Most Christians are under the impression that Judaism is primarily based
on the biblical Old Testament. Actually the ultimate authority for
Judaism is not the Bible but on what they call the Babylonian Talmud, a
series of writings set down in Babylon in the sixth century after
Christ.

The American Heritage Dictionary describes the Talmud as ?constituting
the basis of religious authority for traditional Judaism.?

The authoritative Universal Jewish Encyclopedia compiled by the leading
Rabbinic organizations of the world, makes it very clear that the
Talmud, not the Torah or Old Testament, is the supreme authority for
Judaism.

?Thus the ultimate authority for Orthodoxy is the Babylonian Talmud. The
Bible itself ranks second to it in reality, if not in theory. (Universal
Jewish Encyclopedia, ?Authority? pg. 637) 2



Some day you will stop letting the fear of Jews, Muslims, and others
rule your life. Fear's got you Tommy. You are its puppet as long as
you respond to it.


I happen to know were in the last days, they devil and their children (See
John-8-44 to see who the devils children are) I will not be deceived by
them, nor should you.


I know who the seed of the serpent are, Tommy. They are in key
leadership positions in churches of all faiths, in government, the
media; anyplace where large numbers of people can be influenced just
as they were when Jesus confronted them in John 8:44.

Jesus came to call out the lost sheep of the house of Israel; not the
Gentiles. He separated the goats from the sheep. He showed us who
the goats are and who the sheep are. We have to follow his example
and distinguish between the goats and the sheep.

Tommy, people follow people. It is not the followers; but the leaders
that need to be dealt with. They use spiritual weaponry and to defeat
them you mustuse spiritual weaponry. David got away with stoning
Goliath because God was with him. If you chose to sling rocks at the
spiritual heavies that work for Satan; he will kick your *****. You need
one of those BMG's from the Spear of Destiny game (or holy spirit) to
deal with his boys.

When you have God on yourside, the devil doesn't stand a chance.

.....
BB
http://www.biblebob.net



.....
BB
http://www.biblebob.net

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Title: Re: Tommie some tips on dealing with Roger 31 Jul 2006 10:34:25 PM
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Thank you.

I see that had to get rid of the Bible to promote their doctrine.
Some people don't like truth. It interfers with their sinning.



No, we haven't got rid of our bible. What about you Bob? I would bet you
call yourself a "Judeo-Christian" am I right?

No. I do not Tommy. That would be pretty stupid.


You're not being 'Politically Correct' Bob. How dare a Christian call
themself a Christing without throwing the word 'Judeo' in front of it.

I was a Gentile before I got saved. I never was a Jew. I don't knoiw
wher they came up with Judeo-Christian; but it probably refers to the
fact that Jews and Christians worship the same God as opposed to the
false gods such as Allah, Porky Pig, and the rest of them. Oh, I see
you are telling me where it came from below.



No we don't have the same God. Our Lord and savior has came in the flesh -
The Jews coming Messiah (There God will make war on the saints, he will
also be a great military leader)


Ye do err not knowing the scriptures; nor the power of God. The
church will be changed and raised before the events in Revealtion take
place.


I disagree, I believe that Christians will be on the earth when the things
foretold in the book of Revelation take place. Example, the mark of the
beast, many Christians will take this mark, also many Christians will be
persecuted for following the teachings of Christ. These things will come to
pass, they will be a test of faith.

Did you read Revelation 13:8? Excluded are those whose names are in
the book of life. Where do you find the word "Christians" in
Revealtion? "Saint's" can refer to Christian Saints or Non-Christian
saints.
Revelation 13:8 KJV
And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are
not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation
of the world.
Explain how the church which has been delivered from the wrath to come
can go through the wrath to come.
Romans 5:9 KJV
Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved
from wrath through him.
1 Thessalonians 1:10 KJV
And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead,
[even] Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.


The parusia occurs before the events in Revelation. First,
Christ comes FOR His saints and then Christ comes WITH his saints. He
comes FOR the church before he comes WITH the church. Remember,
Tommy, the church is the body of Christ; the bridegroom. Israel is
the bride. Look at this verse carefully -


I'm not sure I know what you mean here. As for Israel, Israel is a people,
not a line on some map drew up by the U.N.

I mean the same thing you mean. The church is the body of Christ
which is made up of males and females, bond and free, Jews and
Gentiles. Once converted, a Jew is no longer a Jew (spiritually) and
a Gentile is not longer a Gentile (spiritually). They are one in
Christ. The mytery kept secret from the foundation of the world was
that Gentiles should be fellowheirs and of the same body (Eph 3:9).
The body of Christ has a head on it the directs the activites of the
body and that head is Christ. Christ is the bridegroom and Israel
(Jews) is the Bride. Jesus is going to marry a Jew. Since the new
bodies will not have blood (spirit will replace blood) you don't need
to worry about bloodlines as there won't be any.


Revelation 1:10 KJV
I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great
voice, as of a trumpet,

The words "heard behind me" refers to time. He heard a voice as a
trumpet behind him in time.

1 Thessalonians 4:13-17 KJV
13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them
which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no
hope.
14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them
also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which
are alive [and] remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent
them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with
the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in
Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together
with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we
ever be with the Lord.


Right, And what about those that don't believe that Jesus died and rose
again, i.e. the Jews and Arabs? Are they not Anti-Christ.

Not necessary. Being stupid does not make one anti-Christ. It just
means they are stupid. What does the word call atheists? It says the
fool saith in his heart there is no God. What would one be who said
there is no Christ? Not to bright. Antichrist is anyone who denies
the Father and the Son. The "Anti-Christ" is a misnomer. Try son of
perdition.
Look let's keep this simple. The son of perdition will not be
revealed untila after the church is gathered together.
2 Thessalonians 2:3 KJV
Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come],
except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be
revealed, the son of perdition;
The words "falling away first" from "apostasia" means a defection, a
departure. First here is a departure of the body of Christ, then the
son of perdition is revealed.


There is where the voice and trumpet sound. Before the events in
Revelation take place. Tommy, who is Revelation addressed to?
Think, Tommy. Who are you? Who are the people revelation is
addressed to:


Are you suggesting that Christians will not be on the earth when the
Anti-Christ/ Beast of Revelation takes power on the earth?

I am saying what Thessalonians says; that Christ will raise those that
are asleep and change those that are alive and they will have new
bodies. The new bodies consider of flesh and bone and spirit just
like the body Jesus has. No blood. Blood is replaced by spirit.
Those people are not under the jursdiction of the god of this world
who is Satan. He can not harm them because he lacks authority to do
so. Adam transfered authority to Satan to screw with people with
"blood" in their bodies. Without blood in the body Satan has no
authority to touch it. Why do you think everybody makes such a big
deal about blood?



Revelation 1:4 KJV
John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace [be] unto you, and
peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and
from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;

Those are future Jewish churches that exist after there are no more
Christian churches because the Christians have left the earth.



But the Jews will be worshiping their coming Messiah during this time. From
what I understand 144,000 will convert and Jesus will off the rest.

I don't know.
I am a Christian; not a Jew. I am only concerned with happens to me
and my brothers and sisters in Christ. I am all for Jews getting
saved so they don't have to go through the wrath to come. But if
that's what floats their boat; let it sink. They have free will.



All
those "angels of the churches" mentioned beginning in 1:20 are
Jewish. The Sheliach (or malak) hazzibbor angel of the assembly were
the constant ministers of the Synagoge, to pray, preach, and have
charge of the law and appoint its readers. Hence he was called an
episkopos, or overseer.

You are getting your churches mixed up. There is the church of the
body to which Christians belong and the church of the bride to which
Jews belong.



Jews have no church, they broke their covenant with God.

Aren't you confusing pseudo Jews with Jews? Jesus called the
religious leaders hypocrites (amongst other things). A hypocrite is
an actor, a pretender. They pretended to be Jews.
Tommy where do you think most of the evil comes from both Jew and
Christian churches? Religious leaders. Power and money corrupts.
Go to any church. Talk to any average church going person about th
Bible. How much o they know? Very little. They are followers;
little fidgety mice that follow the piper.

Gospel of Matthew.

3:7
The Pharisees and Sadducees are called poisonous snakes
---     
12:34
The Pharisees are called evil poisonous snakes
---
15:3-9
Condemnation of the Pharisees for rejecting the commandments
---
15:12-14
The Pharisees are called blind guides leading the blind
---
16:6
Beware of the yeast of the Pharisees and Sadducees
---
19:3-9
The Pharisees are said to be hard-hearted
---
19:28
The disciples of Jesus will judge the twelve tribes of Israel
---
22:18
The Pharisees are called hypocrites
---
23:13-36
The scribes and Pharisees are repeatedly vilified as hypocrites
---
23:38
The house of Jerusalem is to be forsaken and desolate
---
26:59-68
The chief priests and council condemn Jesus as deserving death
---
27:1-26
The people demand that Jesus, not Barabbas, be crucified
---
27:62-66
The chief priests and Pharisees request a guard at Jesus' tomb
---     
28:4
The guards tremble and become like dead when the angel appears
---     
28:11-15
The chief priest bribe the guards to lie about their actions

Lot's of religious leaders doing bad stuff. But the working stiff,
the farmer, the carpenter, the shepherd was not like that.


The term Judeo-Christian has entered our modern lexicon to the point
where no politician, George Bush on down, would dare even invoke the
term Christian heritage without adding the prefix, Judeo to it. The term
Judeo-Christian didn't even come into existence until after the Second
World War when Jews became supreme in their influence over major media.


Okay, so what? What's the big deal. As you grow older you will
realize that people often do wrong things that stem from wrong
thinking.


It seems everyone is thinking that way, just turn on the TV, you hardly
ever hear anyone calling the themselves Christians anymore.


Tommy -

Ephesians 6:12 KJV
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against
principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of
this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places].

What you see on TV is not spiritual (of God); but carnal and often is
the product of the god of this world who is Satan who is the prince of
the power of the air.


Amen to that.

No, I don't get shook up because I know what the word of God says. I
deal with what God tells me to deal with. I;d be ashamed to call
myself a Christian, too, based on the behavior that many Christians
manifest that ruins the reputations who are convicted by guilt by
association.


Many people listen to these guys like Falwell, Roberston and Hagge and
believe everything these people say as being the gospel truth.

I prefer not to attack by name. I prefer to state what the character
defect is in a way that people can