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"Richard Dawkins" |
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08 Feb 2006 09:42:34 PM |
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Top ten signs you may be an Atheist |
TOP TEN SIGNS YOU'RE A ATHEIST
10 - You vigorously deny the existence of the only god claimed and supported
by the only true religion, but feel outraged when
someone denies the existence of atheism.
9 - You feel enlightened and "humanized" when scientists say that people
evolved from other life forms, but you have a huge problem with the Biblical
claim that we were created by GOD.
8 - You laugh at theists, but you have no problem believing in order out of
chaos.
7 - you don't flinch when hearing about how atheists slaughtered all the
babies of China and Russia in the
history books and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in
Cambodia and other countries including
women and children!
6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about
gods sleeping with women, and you laugh and villify
people believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth
to a man-god who was crucified for our sins,came back to life and then
ascended into heaven.
5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the
scientifically established age of Earth, and you find everything wrong with
believing dates recorded by Bronze Age scientists sitting in their homes
and stating the age of the earth.
4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet have no souls
including those in all rival sects of secular humanism- and will
spend Eternity in blackness and devoid of any purpose.
3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed
to convince you otherwise, some idiot out to save his
paycheck and tenure rolling around on the floor speaking like a talking
monkey gloriying evilution may be
all the evidence you need to "prove" Atheism.
2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to atheist
evidence for no God.
You consider that to be evidence that atheism works. And you
think that the remaining 99.99% SUCCESS was simply chance.
1 - You actually know a lot less than many theists and agnostics do about
the Bible, Christianity, and church
history - but still call yourself an atheist.
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~Science is infallible but those hiding behind it are not~
~"If the whole universe has no meaning, we should never have found out that
it has no meaning: just as, if there were no light in the universe and
therefore no creatures with eyes, we should never know it was dark. Dark
would be without meaning.~
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| User: "shrikeback" |
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| Title: Re: Top ten signs you may be an Atheist |
10 Feb 2006 03:57:06 PM |
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"Richard Dawkins" <Dawkins@Hell.com> wrote in message
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TOP TEN SIGNS YOU'RE A ATHEIST
10 - You vigorously deny the existence of the only god claimed and
supported by the only true religion, but feel outraged when
someone denies the existence of atheism.
It's implicit in the title of your post that atheism exists, for how could
someone
be "A ATHEIST" if atheism didn't exist. I have seen some threads where they
compare the evidence for the existence of atheism to the evidence for the
existence
of god, and so on, but this is still a weird sign of being an atheist. It's
like an
implicit liar's paradox.
9 - You feel enlightened and "humanized" when scientists say that people
evolved from other life forms, but you have a huge problem with the
Biblical
claim that we were created by GOD.
I guess. What's your point?
8 - You laugh at theists, but you have no problem believing in order out
of chaos.
Chaos, in the absolute sense, has no limits on its behavior, so there is no
restriction on order being created out of chaos.
7 - you don't flinch when hearing about how atheists slaughtered all the
babies of China and Russia in the
history books and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in
Cambodia and other countries including
women and children!
Those were Commies. Communism is a belief system. Atheism is not.
In fact, it could be said that Communism does have a god, and that the
god of Communism is History itself.
6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about
gods sleeping with women, and you laugh and villify
people believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave
birth to a man-god who was crucified for our sins,came back to life and
then
ascended into heaven.
I like the Greek claims better, myself.
5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the
scientifically established age of Earth, and you find everything wrong
with
believing dates recorded by Bronze Age scientists sitting in their homes
and stating the age of the earth.
I think you are confusing Atheists with Creationists here. Or is there a
typo
in there.
4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet have no souls
including those in all rival sects of secular humanism- and will
spend Eternity in blackness and devoid of any purpose.
The existence of souls is a separate question from the existence of god.
3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have
failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot out to save his
paycheck and tenure rolling around on the floor speaking like a talking
monkey gloriying evilution may be
all the evidence you need to "prove" Atheism.
Evolution is also a separate question from Atheism. But I will just note
that
you are still confusing Creationism with Atheism (and Darwinism) here.
2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to atheist
evidence for no God.
You consider that to be evidence that atheism works. And you
think that the remaining 99.99% SUCCESS was simply chance.
So you are defining the number of believers as evidence of truth? That's
a fallacy, but I don't expect a Creationist to avoid fallacies.
1 - You actually know a lot less than many theists and agnostics do about
the Bible, Christianity, and church
history - but still call yourself an atheist.
From my emprical observations, just the opposite is generally the case.
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~There are no true atheists in Christian newsgroups.~
~Science is infallible but those hiding behind it are not~
~"If the whole universe has no meaning, we should never have found out
that it has no meaning: just as, if there were no light in the universe
and therefore no creatures with eyes, we should never know it was dark.
Dark would be without meaning.~
It seems that meaning exists in the universe in any case, because this
sentence is itself contained in the universe, and this sentence has meaning.
But what's that have to do with atheism?
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: Top ten signs you may be an Atheist |
09 Feb 2006 05:02:50 AM |
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On Wed, 8 Feb 2006 20:42:34 -0700, "Richard Dawkins"
<Dawkins@Hell.com> spake thusly:
TOP TEN SIGNS YOU'RE A ATHEIST
Repost that other list you provided some time back.
It was quite funny. :)
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"Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass,
till all these things be fulfilled." - Matthew 24:34
http://www.creationists.org/ervin.html
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| User: "2261 Dead" |
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| Title: Re: Top ten signs you may be an Atheist |
08 Feb 2006 11:05:15 PM |
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On Wed, 8 Feb 2006 20:42:34 -0700, "Richard Dawkins"
<Dawkins@Hell.com> wrote:
TOP TEN SIGNS YOU'RE A ATHEIST
10 - You vigorously deny the existence of the only god claimed and supported
by the only true religion, but feel outraged when
someone denies the existence of atheism.
I've never met anyone who denied the existence of atheism. Even for
Usenet, that would be a pretty weird opinion.
9 - You feel enlightened and "humanized" when scientists say that people
evolved from other life forms, but you have a huge problem with the Biblical
claim that we were created by GOD.
Quite so. There is more than ample evidence supporting evolution.
There is absolutely none supporting the biblical accounts.
8 - You laugh at theists, but you have no problem believing in order out of
chaos.
Ever watched water freeze into ice when the temperature drops to 32F?
Good. Then you've witnessed order out of chaos.
7 - you don't flinch when hearing about how atheists slaughtered all the
babies of China and Russia in the
history books and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in
Cambodia and other countries including
women and children!
I flinch because I'm a human being. Just as you might flinch if we
were to discuss Hitler, or Pope Innocent III.
6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about
gods sleeping with women, and you laugh and villify
people believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth
to a man-god who was crucified for our sins,came back to life and then
ascended into heaven.
Well, YES. They're amusing stories, but only a moron takes them
literally.
5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the
scientifically established age of Earth, and you find everything wrong with
believing dates recorded by Bronze Age scientists sitting in their homes
and stating the age of the earth.
Um. I can't even tell what point you were hoping to make on this one.
4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet have no souls
including those in all rival sects of secular humanism- and will
spend Eternity in blackness and devoid of any purpose.
What, exactly, is a "soul"? As for what happens after we die, I
imagine it's pretty much identical to what happened before we were
born. The Universe seemed to get along without either of us just fine
in 1900, and I imagine it was muddle by without us in 2100.
3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed
to convince you otherwise, some idiot out to save his
paycheck and tenure rolling around on the floor speaking like a talking
monkey gloriying evilution may be
all the evidence you need to "prove" Atheism.
Do you have a form of Tourettes', or maybe some other form of
dysphasia?
2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to atheist
evidence for no God.
If religionists can manage just .01% of the evidence for the existance
of a god or gods, I would regard that as a remarkable achievement.
Remember the flamingoes!
You consider that to be evidence that atheism works. And you
think that the remaining 99.99% SUCCESS was simply chance.
"that atheism works"? What, in your opinion, is atheism supposed to
DO, exactly?
1 - You actually know a lot less than many theists and agnostics do about
the Bible, Christianity, and church
history - but still call yourself an atheist.
Actually, in my experience, I usually know more than they do. For
example, did you know that Mosaic law forbids you from heating your
home on the Sabbath? Or that you can be condemned to everlasting fire
for wearing a cotton blend t-shirt, or not forcing your poor wife to
stay out in the garage for one week a month?
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| User: "Nicholas" |
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| Title: Re: Top ten signs you may be an Atheist |
09 Feb 2006 12:38:16 PM |
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Richard Dawkins wrote:
TOP TEN SIGNS YOU'RE A ATHEIST
10 - You vigorously deny the existence of the only god claimed and supported
by the only true religion, but feel outraged when
someone denies the existence of atheism.
It's impossible to disprove the existence of God, but on the contray
side there is no substantial evidence of the existence of any deity.
Which is the true religion though? How do you tell which of the self
referential religious texts is actually the correct, assuming that one is?
9 - You feel enlightened and "humanized" when scientists say that people
evolved from other life forms, but you have a huge problem with the Biblical
claim that we were created by GOD.
Not sure about feeling humanised by evolution, but certainly I have a
problem with the Biblical creation story. It contradicts the world as we
see it.
8 - You laugh at theists, but you have no problem believing in order out of
chaos.
Don't laugh at creationists in general, although it is true one or two
come up with the most ridiculous arguments at time, so much so fellow
creationists ignore them. Indeed, the whole universe is order from chaos.
7 - you don't flinch when hearing about how atheists slaughtered all the
babies of China and Russia in the
history books and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in
Cambodia and other countries including
women and children!
Most certainly I flinch. But I also remember the former Yugoslavia, Nazi
Germany, Rwanda, Darfur, the Crusades, the Islamic explosion from
Arabia, how Europe went to war numerous times in the name of the same
God over dogmatic issues, how the South American religions practiced
human sacrifice to their gods, how according to the Bible the Jews were
instructed and aided in eliminating all people from their 'promised
land' and the biblical record takes pride in that (real or not), how
Herod ordered the death of babies (supposedly).
Let's face it humanity is a vicious species at times, especially in
pursuat of power, but to blame it all on atheism is a nonsense.
6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about
gods sleeping with women, and you laugh and villify
people believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth
to a man-god who was crucified for our sins,came back to life and then
ascended into heaven.
I don't laugh at them, but you are right, all these myths are on a par.
5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the
scientifically established age of Earth, and you find everything wrong with
believing dates recorded by Bronze Age scientists sitting in their homes
and stating the age of the earth.
Don't understand this one. Why would someone who looks at the evidence
have a problem with the scientifically estblished age of the Earth?
4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet have no souls
including those in all rival sects of secular humanism- and will
spend Eternity in blackness and devoid of any purpose.
Depends what you mean by soul. There does seem to be n o good evidence
for such a thing.
3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed
to convince you otherwise, some idiot out to save his
paycheck and tenure rolling around on the floor speaking like a talking
monkey gloriying evilution may be
all the evidence you need to "prove" Atheism.
I'm confused about how you seem to think modern science disproves evolution.
2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to atheist
evidence for no God.
You consider that to be evidence that atheism works. And you
think that the remaining 99.99% SUCCESS was simply chance.
What are you on about?
1 - You actually know a lot less than many theists and agnostics do about
the Bible, Christianity, and church
history - but still call yourself an atheist.
Quite possibly, but what exactly is the point? Knowing a huge amount
about any fictional book doesn;t make its contents true automatically.
Nicholas
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Top ten signs you may be an Atheist |
09 Feb 2006 03:03:35 PM |
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Richard Dawkins wrote:
TOP TEN SIGNS YOU'RE A ATHEIST
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8 - You laugh at theists, but you have no problem believing in order out of
chaos.
Don't "theists" believe in order out of chaos? Where did God come
from?
Certainly someone or something had to create and 'design' such a
complex thing. It couldn't just exist. That defies common sense and
logic. Afterall, God must be even more complex that the world He
created.
And since these theists assert that He had no "intelligent designer",
it follows directly that God will "spend Eternity in blackness and
devoid of any purpose" and "has no soul". Clearly this is
unacceptable.
Therefore, I propose the theory of _Super God_.
Super God created God in His image.
Super God, in turn, was created by _Super Duper God_...etc. etc. etc.,
on into infinity.
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| User: "Richard Dawkins" |
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| Title: Re: Top ten signs you may be an Atheist |
09 Feb 2006 09:48:16 PM |
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<jbd4020@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Richard Dawkins wrote:
TOP TEN SIGNS YOU'RE A ATHEIST
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8 - You laugh at theists, but you have no problem believing in order out
of
chaos.
Don't "theists" believe in order out of chaos? Where did God come
from?
I said *Atheists* you fool, and not God-Haters-bug out.
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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09 Feb 2006 06:59:56 PM |
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By gosh...
YOU'VE GOT IT! -- L.
jbd4020@hotmail.com wrote:
Richard Dawkins wrote:
TOP TEN SIGNS YOU'RE A ATHEIST
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8 - You laugh at theists, but you have no problem believing in order out of
chaos.
Don't "theists" believe in order out of chaos? Where did God come
from?
Certainly someone or something had to create and 'design' such a
complex thing. It couldn't just exist. That defies common sense and
logic. Afterall, God must be even more complex that the world He
created.
And since these theists assert that He had no "intelligent designer",
it follows directly that God will "spend Eternity in blackness and
devoid of any purpose" and "has no soul". Clearly this is
unacceptable.
Therefore, I propose the theory of _Super God_.
Super God created God in His image.
Super God, in turn, was created by _Super Duper God_...etc. etc. etc.,
on into infinity.
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| User: "Melchizedek" |
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| Title: Re: Top ten signs you may be an Atheist |
07 Mar 2006 03:27:46 PM |
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"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:43EBE58C.CA8B6D8E@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
By gosh...
YOU'VE GOT IT! -- L.
jbd4020@hotmail.com wrote:
Richard Dawkins wrote:
TOP TEN SIGNS YOU'RE A ATHEIST
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8 - You laugh at theists, but you have no problem believing in order out
of
chaos.
Don't "theists" believe in order out of chaos? Where did God come
from?
Certainly someone or something had to create and 'design' such a
complex thing. It couldn't just exist. That defies common sense and
logic. Afterall, God must be even more complex that the world He
created.
And since these theists assert that He had no "intelligent designer",
it follows directly that God will "spend Eternity in blackness and
devoid of any purpose" and "has no soul". Clearly this is
unacceptable.
Therefore, I propose the theory of _Super God_.
Super God created God in His image.
Super God, in turn, was created by _Super Duper God_...etc. etc. etc.,
on into infinity.
http://lulu.com/bibleweb/
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| User: "Richard Dawkins" |
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| Title: Re: Top ten signs you may be an Atheist |
09 Feb 2006 09:49:25 PM |
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"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:43EBE58C.CA8B6D8E@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
By gosh...
YOU'VE GOT IT! -- L.
jbd4020@hotmail.com wrote:
Richard Dawkins wrote:
TOP TEN SIGNS YOU'RE A ATHEIST
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8 - You laugh at theists, but you have no problem believing in order
out of
chaos.
Don't "theists" believe in order out of chaos? Where did God come
from?
Certainly someone or something had to create and 'design' such a
complex thing. It couldn't just exist. That defies common sense and
logic. Afterall, God must be even more complex that the world He
created.
And since these theists assert that He had no "intelligent designer",
Slap-
And the queen of God-Haters herself sticks her wicked nose into the foray.
Go back and finish High School you moron.
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| User: "The Truth Squad" |
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08 Feb 2006 09:46:26 PM |
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Richard Dawkins wrote:
TOP TEN SIGNS YOU'RE A FUCKING IDIOT
1. YOUR NAME IS RAYTARD
2 THRU 10 YOU'RE CALLED DORKY
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| User: "**Albert & Galleries**" |
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| Title: Re: Top ten signs you are a fucking idiot |
09 Feb 2006 09:12:07 AM |
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Richard Dawkins wrote:
TOP TEN SIGNS YOU'RE A FUCKING IDIOT
1. YOUR NAME IS RAYTARD
2 THRU 10 YOU'RE CALLED DORKY
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