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User:	"Bible John"
Date:	30 May 2005 09:32:37 AM
Object:	Topical Bible Study-How to biblically invest into the lives of others

Dear friends,
My hope and prayer is that you all had a blessed week. Last night I was
involved in an unfortunate heated debate with a supporter of the
Word-Faith doctrine and just today I had lunch with another supporter of
the Word-faith doctrine. Praise the Lord the debate was not heated!
I know this is another topical practical study. Some of you may want
more meat, so to help you, I plan on writing some exegetical studies
coming soon. Remember I come before you as your servant and it my
prayer and vision for you to learn more of the bible and put its
principles into practice. There is a place for practical studies, there
is a place for exegetical, theological, and apologetics as well.
Well anyway the lesson for today will be on How to biblically invest
into the lives of others.
Friends no matter what you think, no matter the amount of people you
know, everyone you are friends with, or even make contact with, you will
have an influence on in someway, shape, or form. If you are a follower
of Christ, my prayer is that you will be representing Christ in the
lives of others. Ways you can represent Christ in others are what I
would call as a deposit. Below is a list of some ways in which we can
deposit into others.
Some ways to deposit into the lives of others
Smiling
Taking the time of day to greet other people
Choosing our words and mannerisms biblically
Doing good things for others
Showing grace (Christ showed Grace towards us)
Showing compassion on someone with differences (ie handicapped person)
Depositing into people is not an easy task, but one that we can
accomplish with the power of the Holy Spirit. Jesus made it very clear
that our light must shine before men.
Matt. 5:16 In the same way, let your light shine before men, that they
may see your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven.
Friends our influence will go a long way, and will represent Christ to
the world. The bible again writes.
1Pet. 2:12 Live such good lives among the pagans that, though they
accuse you of doing wrong, they may see your good deeds and glorify God
on the day he visits us.
I know in my own life I always respond better to someone who invests
into me, over someone who does not. The late Dr. Barth Campbell, was
one that would always deposit into my life. He always took the time of
day to greet me, he always made me feel welcome when I would visit him
in his office, and he always showed grace in the classroom. Barth was a
one of a kind prof at Simpson, and will surely be missed by many at the
community there. Dr. Campbell knew how to sow seeds into the lives of
others. He did not live a self-centered life, he made people feel
special as he always put everyone else before himself. We may not all
be Dr. Campbellšs, but we have the opportunity to sow seeds with people
we run into daily such as Bank tellers, barbers, grocery store clerks,
car salesmen, etc... Remember that our words can damage or lift one up,
so choose them wisely.
Besides depositing into others, we also can withdrawal from them.
Unfortunately too many people today do allot more withdrawing than
depositing. Tragically the church has fallen into this trend, and many
churches are not full of sanctified Christians.
Below are some ways we can withdrawal from another personšs life.
Ways to withdrawal from others lives
Being Selfish
Not smiling
Not giving them the time of day for others
Lacking forgiveness
Not keeping our commitments
Not showing our appreciation
Not being sensitive to anotheršs culture
Not giving money to the poor
Constantly criticizing and finding fault in others
Friends just as withdrawing too much from an account is a problem, which
can lead to an overdrawn account, in the same way withdrawing too much
from people can also be a serious problem, which can lead to overdrawn
accounts. When we have overdrawn accounts its no wonder people do not
respond to us the way we like. I know this one guy on the internet,
who spends all his time, criticizing, judging and pointing out my
supposed faults. This guyšs high calling in life seems to be to correct
all my grammar errors, and label me with as many psychological disorders
as he can find in his DSM. Maybe he gets a kick out of attacking me, I
donšt know. This guy has withdrawn from me so much that his account is
very overdrawn, and I refuse to listen to anything he says. Often
whatever he says is interpreted as an attack. This guy has failed to see
that when we correct people to always make sure to have plenty of
deposits in their account or else they will not listen, but will rather
get very defensive, and the opportunity to minister is limited because
of the walls I have put up. Its tragic for him, because even if I am at
fault, even if I do have something wrong, I wont be hearing it from him.
You say "John I thought you were supposed to minister to this guy, if he
is not saved, I thought we were supposed to be the light of the world."
Yes this is true, but being the light of the world does not mean that we
need to listen to the advice of unbelievers, we must be good to them. I
am not perfect but I have tried praying for this guy, and I hope that he
will turn from his ultra critical attitude towards me.
Below are some questions and comments for further study and reflection
1. Are you putting more deposits or withdrawals in the lives of others?
2. Find someone you can start depositing into, and start to add small
deposits at first like a casual smile, or greeting. Larger deposits
will come in due time, but start small to gain their trust.
3. Do you have any overdrawn accounts? If so it will take time to
rebuild, or the3se accounts may never be rebuilt.
4. Do you know of anyone who is withdrawing allot from your account? If
so try and find a way to deposit into their life.
Until next time
John
--
http://johnw.freeshell.org/bible/
.

User: "Bible Bob"
Title: Re: Topical Bible Study-How to biblically invest into the lives of others	30 May 2005 10:04:35 AM

On Mon, 30 May 2005 07:32:37 -0700, Bible John
<john.doggett@x-files.gov> wrote:

Dear friends,

My hope and prayer is that you all had a blessed week. Last night I was
involved in an unfortunate heated debate with a supporter of the
Word-Faith doctrine and just today I had lunch with another supporter of
the Word-faith doctrine. Praise the Lord the debate was not heated!

I know this is another topical practical study. Some of you may want
more meat, so to help you, I plan on writing some exegetical studies
coming soon. Remember I come before you as your servant and it my
prayer and vision for you to learn more of the bible and put its
principles into practice. There is a place for practical studies, there
is a place for exegetical, theological, and apologetics as well.

Well anyway the lesson for today will be on How to biblically invest
into the lives of others.

Friends no matter what you think, no matter the amount of people you
know, everyone you are friends with, or even make contact with, you will
have an influence on in someway, shape, or form. If you are a follower
of Christ, my prayer is that you will be representing Christ in the
lives of others. Ways you can represent Christ in others are what I
would call as a deposit. Below is a list of some ways in which we can
deposit into others.

Some ways to deposit into the lives of others

Smiling
Taking the time of day to greet other people
Choosing our words and mannerisms biblically
Doing good things for others
Showing grace (Christ showed Grace towards us)
Showing compassion on someone with differences (ie handicapped person)

Depositing into people is not an easy task, but one that we can
accomplish with the power of the Holy Spirit. Jesus made it very clear
that our light must shine before men.

Matt. 5:16 In the same way, let your light shine before men, that they
may see your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven.

Friends our influence will go a long way, and will represent Christ to
the world. The bible again writes.

1Pet. 2:12 Live such good lives among the pagans that, though they
accuse you of doing wrong, they may see your good deeds and glorify God
on the day he visits us.

I know in my own life I always respond better to someone who invests
into me, over someone who does not. The late Dr. Barth Campbell, was
one that would always deposit into my life. He always took the time of
day to greet me, he always made me feel welcome when I would visit him
in his office, and he always showed grace in the classroom. Barth was a
one of a kind prof at Simpson, and will surely be missed by many at the
community there. Dr. Campbell knew how to sow seeds into the lives of
others. He did not live a self-centered life, he made people feel
special as he always put everyone else before himself. We may not all
be Dr. Campbellšs, but we have the opportunity to sow seeds with people
we run into daily such as Bank tellers, barbers, grocery store clerks,
car salesmen, etc... Remember that our words can damage or lift one up,
so choose them wisely.

Besides depositing into others, we also can withdrawal from them.
Unfortunately too many people today do allot more withdrawing than
depositing. Tragically the church has fallen into this trend, and many
churches are not full of sanctified Christians.

Below are some ways we can withdrawal from another personšs life.

Ways to withdrawal from others lives
Being Selfish
Not smiling
Not giving them the time of day for others
Lacking forgiveness
Not keeping our commitments
Not showing our appreciation
Not being sensitive to anotheršs culture
Not giving money to the poor
Constantly criticizing and finding fault in others

Friends just as withdrawing too much from an account is a problem, which
can lead to an overdrawn account, in the same way withdrawing too much
from people can also be a serious problem, which can lead to overdrawn
accounts. When we have overdrawn accounts its no wonder people do not
respond to us the way we like. I know this one guy on the internet,
who spends all his time, criticizing, judging and pointing out my
supposed faults. This guyšs high calling in life seems to be to correct
all my grammar errors, and label me with as many psychological disorders
as he can find in his DSM. Maybe he gets a kick out of attacking me, I
donšt know. This guy has withdrawn from me so much that his account is
very overdrawn, and I refuse to listen to anything he says. Often
whatever he says is interpreted as an attack. This guy has failed to see
that when we correct people to always make sure to have plenty of
deposits in their account or else they will not listen, but will rather
get very defensive, and the opportunity to minister is limited because
of the walls I have put up. Its tragic for him, because even if I am at
fault, even if I do have something wrong, I wont be hearing it from him.
You say "John I thought you were supposed to minister to this guy, if he
is not saved, I thought we were supposed to be the light of the world."
Yes this is true, but being the light of the world does not mean that we
need to listen to the advice of unbelievers, we must be good to them. I
am not perfect but I have tried praying for this guy, and I hope that he
will turn from his ultra critical attitude towards me.

Below are some questions and comments for further study and reflection

1. Are you putting more deposits or withdrawals in the lives of others?
2. Find someone you can start depositing into, and start to add small
deposits at first like a casual smile, or greeting. Larger deposits
will come in due time, but start small to gain their trust.
3. Do you have any overdrawn accounts? If so it will take time to
rebuild, or the3se accounts may never be rebuilt.
4. Do you know of anyone who is withdrawing allot from your account? If
so try and find a way to deposit into their life.

Until next time

John

John,
Good post.
Non-commercial website where everything is free.
http://www.biblebob.net
BB
.

User: "Bible John"
Title: Re: Topical Bible Study-How to biblically invest into the lives of others	30 May 2005 11:00:17 AM

Thank you BB.
John
"Bible Bob" <biblebobnospam@biblebob.net> wrote in message
news:hram919v31qm1b20s5vv182qfg5dhtlhre@4ax.com...

On Mon, 30 May 2005 07:32:37 -0700, Bible John
<john.doggett@x-files.gov> wrote:

Dear friends,

My hope and prayer is that you all had a blessed week. Last night I was
involved in an unfortunate heated debate with a supporter of the
Word-Faith doctrine and just today I had lunch with another supporter of
the Word-faith doctrine. Praise the Lord the debate was not heated!

I know this is another topical practical study. Some of you may want
more meat, so to help you, I plan on writing some exegetical studies
coming soon. Remember I come before you as your servant and it my
prayer and vision for you to learn more of the bible and put its
principles into practice. There is a place for practical studies, there
is a place for exegetical, theological, and apologetics as well.

Well anyway the lesson for today will be on How to biblically invest
into the lives of others.

Friends no matter what you think, no matter the amount of people you
know, everyone you are friends with, or even make contact with, you will
have an influence on in someway, shape, or form. If you are a follower
of Christ, my prayer is that you will be representing Christ in the
lives of others. Ways you can represent Christ in others are what I
would call as a deposit. Below is a list of some ways in which we can
deposit into others.

Some ways to deposit into the lives of others

Smiling
Taking the time of day to greet other people
Choosing our words and mannerisms biblically
Doing good things for others
Showing grace (Christ showed Grace towards us)
Showing compassion on someone with differences (ie handicapped person)

Depositing into people is not an easy task, but one that we can
accomplish with the power of the Holy Spirit. Jesus made it very clear
that our light must shine before men.

Matt. 5:16 In the same way, let your light shine before men, that they
may see your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven.

Friends our influence will go a long way, and will represent Christ to
the world. The bible again writes.

1Pet. 2:12 Live such good lives among the pagans that, though they
accuse you of doing wrong, they may see your good deeds and glorify God
on the day he visits us.

I know in my own life I always respond better to someone who invests
into me, over someone who does not. The late Dr. Barth Campbell, was
one that would always deposit into my life. He always took the time of
day to greet me, he always made me feel welcome when I would visit him
in his office, and he always showed grace in the classroom. Barth was a
one of a kind prof at Simpson, and will surely be missed by many at the
community there. Dr. Campbell knew how to sow seeds into the lives of
others. He did not live a self-centered life, he made people feel
special as he always put everyone else before himself. We may not all
be Dr. Campbellšs, but we have the opportunity to sow seeds with people
we run into daily such as Bank tellers, barbers, grocery store clerks,
car salesmen, etc... Remember that our words can damage or lift one up,
so choose them wisely.

Besides depositing into others, we also can withdrawal from them.
Unfortunately too many people today do allot more withdrawing than
depositing. Tragically the church has fallen into this trend, and many
churches are not full of sanctified Christians.

Below are some ways we can withdrawal from another personšs life.

Ways to withdrawal from others lives
Being Selfish
Not smiling
Not giving them the time of day for others
Lacking forgiveness
Not keeping our commitments
Not showing our appreciation
Not being sensitive to anotheršs culture
Not giving money to the poor
Constantly criticizing and finding fault in others

Friends just as withdrawing too much from an account is a problem, which
can lead to an overdrawn account, in the same way withdrawing too much
from people can also be a serious problem, which can lead to overdrawn
accounts. When we have overdrawn accounts its no wonder people do not
respond to us the way we like. I know this one guy on the internet,
who spends all his time, criticizing, judging and pointing out my
supposed faults. This guyšs high calling in life seems to be to correct
all my grammar errors, and label me with as many psychological disorders
as he can find in his DSM. Maybe he gets a kick out of attacking me, I
donšt know. This guy has withdrawn from me so much that his account is
very overdrawn, and I refuse to listen to anything he says. Often
whatever he says is interpreted as an attack. This guy has failed to see
that when we correct people to always make sure to have plenty of
deposits in their account or else they will not listen, but will rather
get very defensive, and the opportunity to minister is limited because
of the walls I have put up. Its tragic for him, because even if I am at
fault, even if I do have something wrong, I wont be hearing it from him.
You say "John I thought you were supposed to minister to this guy, if he
is not saved, I thought we were supposed to be the light of the world."
Yes this is true, but being the light of the world does not mean that we
need to listen to the advice of unbelievers, we must be good to them. I
am not perfect but I have tried praying for this guy, and I hope that he
will turn from his ultra critical attitude towards me.

Below are some questions and comments for further study and reflection

1. Are you putting more deposits or withdrawals in the lives of others?
2. Find someone you can start depositing into, and start to add small
deposits at first like a casual smile, or greeting. Larger deposits
will come in due time, but start small to gain their trust.
3. Do you have any overdrawn accounts? If so it will take time to
rebuild, or the3se accounts may never be rebuilt.
4. Do you know of anyone who is withdrawing allot from your account? If
so try and find a way to deposit into their life.

Until next timeS

John

John,

Good post.

Non-commercial website where everything is free.
http://www.biblebob.net

BB

User: "Bible Bob"
Title: Re: Topical Bible Study-How to biblically invest into the lives of others	30 May 2005 12:07:23 PM

On Mon, 30 May 2005 09:00:17 -0700, "Bible John"
<john.doggett@x-files.gov> wrote:

Thank you BB.

John

John,
No problem. I don't give compliments unless they are deserved.
But what is the "Word-Faith" doctrine? Could you post a short
explanation that reveals both views?
BB

"Bible Bob" <biblebobnospam@biblebob.net> wrote in message
news:hram919v31qm1b20s5vv182qfg5dhtlhre@4ax.com...

On Mon, 30 May 2005 07:32:37 -0700, Bible John
<john.doggett@x-files.gov> wrote:

Dear friends,

My hope and prayer is that you all had a blessed week. Last night I was
involved in an unfortunate heated debate with a supporter of the
Word-Faith doctrine and just today I had lunch with another supporter of
the Word-faith doctrine. Praise the Lord the debate was not heated!

I know this is another topical practical study. Some of you may want
more meat, so to help you, I plan on writing some exegetical studies
coming soon. Remember I come before you as your servant and it my
prayer and vision for you to learn more of the bible and put its
principles into practice. There is a place for practical studies, there
is a place for exegetical, theological, and apologetics as well.

Well anyway the lesson for today will be on How to biblically invest
into the lives of others.

Friends no matter what you think, no matter the amount of people you
know, everyone you are friends with, or even make contact with, you will
have an influence on in someway, shape, or form. If you are a follower
of Christ, my prayer is that you will be representing Christ in the
lives of others. Ways you can represent Christ in others are what I
would call as a deposit. Below is a list of some ways in which we can
deposit into others.

Some ways to deposit into the lives of others

Smiling
Taking the time of day to greet other people
Choosing our words and mannerisms biblically
Doing good things for others
Showing grace (Christ showed Grace towards us)
Showing compassion on someone with differences (ie handicapped person)

Depositing into people is not an easy task, but one that we can
accomplish with the power of the Holy Spirit. Jesus made it very clear
that our light must shine before men.

Matt. 5:16 In the same way, let your light shine before men, that they
may see your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven.

Friends our influence will go a long way, and will represent Christ to
the world. The bible again writes.

1Pet. 2:12 Live such good lives among the pagans that, though they
accuse you of doing wrong, they may see your good deeds and glorify God
on the day he visits us.

I know in my own life I always respond better to someone who invests
into me, over someone who does not. The late Dr. Barth Campbell, was
one that would always deposit into my life. He always took the time of
day to greet me, he always made me feel welcome when I would visit him
in his office, and he always showed grace in the classroom. Barth was a
one of a kind prof at Simpson, and will surely be missed by many at the
community there. Dr. Campbell knew how to sow seeds into the lives of
others. He did not live a self-centered life, he made people feel
special as he always put everyone else before himself. We may not all
be Dr. Campbellšs, but we have the opportunity to sow seeds with people
we run into daily such as Bank tellers, barbers, grocery store clerks,
car salesmen, etc... Remember that our words can damage or lift one up,
so choose them wisely.

Besides depositing into others, we also can withdrawal from them.
Unfortunately too many people today do allot more withdrawing than
depositing. Tragically the church has fallen into this trend, and many
churches are not full of sanctified Christians.

Below are some ways we can withdrawal from another personšs life.

Ways to withdrawal from others lives
Being Selfish
Not smiling
Not giving them the time of day for others
Lacking forgiveness
Not keeping our commitments
Not showing our appreciation
Not being sensitive to anotheršs culture
Not giving money to the poor
Constantly criticizing and finding fault in others

Friends just as withdrawing too much from an account is a problem, which
can lead to an overdrawn account, in the same way withdrawing too much
from people can also be a serious problem, which can lead to overdrawn
accounts. When we have overdrawn accounts its no wonder people do not
respond to us the way we like. I know this one guy on the internet,
who spends all his time, criticizing, judging and pointing out my
supposed faults. This guyšs high calling in life seems to be to correct
all my grammar errors, and label me with as many psychological disorders
as he can find in his DSM. Maybe he gets a kick out of attacking me, I
donšt know. This guy has withdrawn from me so much that his account is
very overdrawn, and I refuse to listen to anything he says. Often
whatever he says is interpreted as an attack. This guy has failed to see
that when we correct people to always make sure to have plenty of
deposits in their account or else they will not listen, but will rather
get very defensive, and the opportunity to minister is limited because
of the walls I have put up. Its tragic for him, because even if I am at
fault, even if I do have something wrong, I wont be hearing it from him.
You say "John I thought you were supposed to minister to this guy, if he
is not saved, I thought we were supposed to be the light of the world."
Yes this is true, but being the light of the world does not mean that we
need to listen to the advice of unbelievers, we must be good to them. I
am not perfect but I have tried praying for this guy, and I hope that he
will turn from his ultra critical attitude towards me.

Below are some questions and comments for further study and reflection

1. Are you putting more deposits or withdrawals in the lives of others?
2. Find someone you can start depositing into, and start to add small
deposits at first like a casual smile, or greeting. Larger deposits
will come in due time, but start small to gain their trust.
3. Do you have any overdrawn accounts? If so it will take time to
rebuild, or the3se accounts may never be rebuilt.
4. Do you know of anyone who is withdrawing allot from your account? If
so try and find a way to deposit into their life.

Until next timeS

John

John,

Good post.

Non-commercial website where everything is free.
http://www.biblebob.net

BB

Non-commercial website where everything is free.
http://www.biblebob.net
BB
.

User: "Bible John"
Title: Re: Topical Bible Study-How to biblically invest into the lives of others	30 May 2005 01:15:41 PM

In article <4uhm91lu13ngho0009vhhpbm0964clbt9s@4ax.com>,
Bible Bob <biblebobnospam@biblebob.net> wrote:

But what is the "Word-Faith" doctrine? Could you post a short
explanation that reveals both views?

I will in due time, when I get to the Apologetics bible studies. But
for the meantime check out my website. In my published works section I
have a link to some good word of faith resources.
John
--
http://johnw.freeshell.org/bible/
.

User: "Bible Bob"
Title: Re: Topical Bible Study-How to biblically invest into the lives of others	30 May 2005 02:37:08 PM

On Mon, 30 May 2005 11:15:41 -0700, Bible John
<john.doggett@x-files.gov> wrote:

In article <4uhm91lu13ngho0009vhhpbm0964clbt9s@4ax.com>,
Bible Bob <biblebobnospam@biblebob.net> wrote:

But what is the "Word-Faith" doctrine? Could you post a short
explanation that reveals both views?

I will in due time, when I get to the Apologetics bible studies. But
for the meantime check out my website. In my published works section I
have a link to some good word of faith resources.

John

Okay
Non-commercial website where everything is free.
http://www.biblebob.net
BB
.

User: "jw"
Title: Re: Topical Bible Study-How to biblically invest into the lives of others	31 May 2005 04:58:17 AM

x-no-archive: yes
On Mon, 30 May 2005 07:32:37 -0700, Bible John
<john.doggett@x-files.gov> wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved <keep it in the
group>

Very interesting lesson, John. I skimmed it after about 5 paragraphs,
since I suffer adult ADD.
I'll get back to it.
I DO encourage you to challenge BB on his theology, and his doctrine.
You seem to be confused as to whether he's a Christian or not. Also
ask him what he means by "born again", and if he is. Does he believe
in the Baptism of the Spirit as being fully adequate to redeem us, or
does he REQUIRE water baptism? And what form should that water baptism
take?
Etc.
jw

I know this is another topical practical study. Some of you may want
more meat, so to help you, I plan on writing some exegetical studies
coming soon. Remember I come before you as your servant and it my
prayer and vision for you to learn more of the bible and put its
principles into practice. There is a place for practical studies, there
is a place for exegetical, theological, and apologetics as well.

Well anyway the lesson for today will be on How to biblically invest
into the lives of others.

Friends no matter what you think, no matter the amount of people you
know, everyone you are friends with, or even make contact with, you will
have an influence on in someway, shape, or form. If you are a follower
of Christ, my prayer is that you will be representing Christ in the
lives of others. Ways you can represent Christ in others are what I
would call as a deposit. Below is a list of some ways in which we can
deposit into others.

Some ways to deposit into the lives of others

Smiling
Taking the time of day to greet other people
Choosing our words and mannerisms biblically
Doing good things for others
Showing grace (Christ showed Grace towards us)
Showing compassion on someone with differences (ie handicapped person)

Depositing into people is not an easy task, but one that we can
accomplish with the power of the Holy Spirit. Jesus made it very clear
that our light must shine before men.

Matt. 5:16 In the same way, let your light shine before men, that they
may see your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven.

Friends our influence will go a long way, and will represent Christ to
the world. The bible again writes.

1Pet. 2:12 Live such good lives among the pagans that, though they
accuse you of doing wrong, they may see your good deeds and glorify God
on the day he visits us.

I know in my own life I always respond better to someone who invests
into me, over someone who does not. The late Dr. Barth Campbell, was
one that would always deposit into my life. He always took the time of
day to greet me, he always made me feel welcome when I would visit him
in his office, and he always showed grace in the classroom. Barth was a
one of a kind prof at Simpson, and will surely be missed by many at the
community there. Dr. Campbell knew how to sow seeds into the lives of
others. He did not live a self-centered life, he made people feel
special as he always put everyone else before himself. We may not all
be Dr. Campbellšs, but we have the opportunity to sow seeds with people
we run into daily such as Bank tellers, barbers, grocery store clerks,
car salesmen, etc... Remember that our words can damage or lift one up,
so choose them wisely.

Besides depositing into others, we also can withdrawal from them.
Unfortunately too many people today do allot more withdrawing than
depositing. Tragically the church has fallen into this trend, and many
churches are not full of sanctified Christians.

Below are some ways we can withdrawal from another personšs life.

Ways to withdrawal from others lives
Being Selfish
Not smiling
Not giving them the time of day for others
Lacking forgiveness
Not keeping our commitments
Not showing our appreciation
Not being sensitive to anotheršs culture
Not giving money to the poor
Constantly criticizing and finding fault in others

Friends just as withdrawing too much from an account is a problem, which
can lead to an overdrawn account, in the same way withdrawing too much
from people can also be a serious problem, which can lead to overdrawn
accounts. When we have overdrawn accounts its no wonder people do not
respond to us the way we like. I know this one guy on the internet,
who spends all his time, criticizing, judging and pointing out my
supposed faults. This guyšs high calling in life seems to be to correct
all my grammar errors, and label me with as many psychological disorders
as he can find in his DSM. Maybe he gets a kick out of attacking me, I
donšt know. This guy has withdrawn from me so much that his account is
very overdrawn, and I refuse to listen to anything he says. Often
whatever he says is interpreted as an attack. This guy has failed to see
that when we correct people to always make sure to have plenty of
deposits in their account or else they will not listen, but will rather
get very defensive, and the opportunity to minister is limited because
of the walls I have put up. Its tragic for him, because even if I am at
fault, even if I do have something wrong, I wont be hearing it from him.
You say "John I thought you were supposed to minister to this guy, if he
is not saved, I thought we were supposed to be the light of the world."
Yes this is true, but being the light of the world does not mean that we
need to listen to the advice of unbelievers, we must be good to them. I
am not perfect but I have tried praying for this guy, and I hope that he
will turn from his ultra critical attitude towards me.

Below are some questions and comments for further study and reflection

1. Are you putting more deposits or withdrawals in the lives of others?
2. Find someone you can start depositing into, and start to add small
deposits at first like a casual smile, or greeting. Larger deposits
will come in due time, but start small to gain their trust.
3. Do you have any overdrawn accounts? If so it will take time to
rebuild, or the3se accounts may never be rebuilt.
4. Do you know of anyone who is withdrawing allot from your account? If
so try and find a way to deposit into their life.

Until next time

John

User: "Clover"
Title: Re: Topical Bible Study-How to biblically invest into the lives of others	01 Jun 2005 01:05:04 AM

In article <b5do915di44jq2h6udhg4fctio3549l4rb@4ax.com>, jw
<jw<no>@yoo.hoo> wrote:
I suffer adult ADD.

What a surprise
.

User: "jw"
Title: Re: Topical Bible Study-How to biblically invest into the lives of others	01 Jun 2005 02:42:27 AM

x-no-archive: yes
On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 17:05:04 +1100,

(Clover) wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved <keep it in the
group>

In article <b5do915di44jq2h6udhg4fctio3549l4rb@4ax.com>, jw
<jw<no>@yoo.hoo> wrote:

I suffer adult ADD.

What a surprise

We all have our deficiencies. What are yours, besides being a dumbass?
jw
.

User: "Bible Bob"
Title: Re: Topical Bible Study-How to biblically invest into the lives of others	01 Jun 2005 05:41:02 AM

On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 00:42:27 -0700, jw <jw<no>@yoo.hoo> wrote:

x-no-archive: yes
On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 17:05:04 +1100,

(Clover) wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved <keep it in the
group>

In article <b5do915di44jq2h6udhg4fctio3549l4rb@4ax.com>, jw
<jw<no>@yoo.hoo> wrote:

I suffer adult ADD.

What a surprise

We all have our deficiencies. What are yours, besides being a dumbass?

jw

Steve Winters Jr aka jw.
Why call the man a dumb ***** for not putting a period at the end of his
sentence. Hypocrite, you didn't put a space between dumb and *****.
Non-commercial website where everything is free.
http://www.biblebob.net
BB
.

User: "jw"
Title: Re: Topical Bible Study-How to biblically invest into the lives of others	01 Jun 2005 06:29:34 AM

x-no-archive: yes
On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 10:41:02 GMT, Bible Bob
<biblebobnospam@biblebob.net> wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved <keep it in the
group>

On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 00:42:27 -0700, jw <jw<no>@yoo.hoo> wrote:

x-no-archive: yes
On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 17:05:04 +1100,

(Clover) wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved <keep it in the
group>

In article <b5do915di44jq2h6udhg4fctio3549l4rb@4ax.com>, jw
<jw<no>@yoo.hoo> wrote:

I suffer adult ADD.

What a surprise

We all have our deficiencies. What are yours, besides being a dumbass?

jw

Steve Winters Jr aka jw.

You, Bible Bob, are a God damned liar.
Steve Winters is another Oneness cultist like you. I am a Trinitarian.
jw
snip
.

User: "Bible Bob"
Title: Re: Topical Bible Study-How to biblically invest into the lives of others	01 Jun 2005 10:32:34 AM

On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 04:29:34 -0700, jw <jw<no>@yoo.hoo> wrote:

x-no-archive: yes
On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 10:41:02 GMT, Bible Bob
<biblebobnospam@biblebob.net> wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved <keep it in the
group>

On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 00:42:27 -0700, jw <jw<no>@yoo.hoo> wrote:

x-no-archive: yes
On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 17:05:04 +1100,

(Clover) wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved <keep it in the
group>

In article <b5do915di44jq2h6udhg4fctio3549l4rb@4ax.com>, jw
<jw<no>@yoo.hoo> wrote:

I suffer adult ADD.

What a surprise

We all have our deficiencies. What are yours, besides being a dumbass?

jw

Steve Winters Jr aka jw.

You, Bible Bob, are a God damned liar.

Steve Winters is another Oneness cultist like you. I am a Trinitarian.

jw

snip

jw,
Proved my point. You are indeed Steve Winters Jr the, Oneness cult
member who worships what he knows nothing about. I don't think that
using God's name in vain pleases God. You are not a Trinitarian as
your own words in an earlier post said. You are a super idolator who
changed the creation into the Creator. When you made Jesus God, you
threw out Trinitarian doctrine in favor of pure idolatry. Your
Oneness cult brainwashing is showing.
Non-commercial website where everything is free.
http://www.biblebob.net
BB
.

User: "jw"
Title: Re: Topical Bible Study-How to biblically invest into the lives of others	01 Jun 2005 11:01:22 PM

x-no-archive: yes
On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 15:32:34 GMT, Bible Bob
<biblebobnospam@biblebob.net> wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved <keep it in the
group>

On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 04:29:34 -0700, jw <jw<no>@yoo.hoo> wrote:

x-no-archive: yes
On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 10:41:02 GMT, Bible Bob
<biblebobnospam@biblebob.net> wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved <keep it in the
group>

On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 00:42:27 -0700, jw <jw<no>@yoo.hoo> wrote:

x-no-archive: yes
On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 17:05:04 +1100,

(Clover) wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved <keep it in the
group>

In article <b5do915di44jq2h6udhg4fctio3549l4rb@4ax.com>, jw
<jw<no>@yoo.hoo> wrote:

I suffer adult ADD.

What a surprise

We all have our deficiencies. What are yours, besides being a dumbass?

jw

Steve Winters Jr aka jw.

You, Bible Bob, are a God damned liar.

Steve Winters is another Oneness cultist like you. I am a Trinitarian.

jw

snip

jw,

Proved my point.

You OBVIOUSLY can't read, and you are now proving that you are insane.
I have REPEATEDLY said I am Trinitarian.
And we are done.
You have wasted enough of my time, you imposter son of Satan!
jw
snip
.

User: "Just Mark"
Title: Re: Topical Bible Study-How to biblically invest into the lives of others	02 Jun 2005 09:22:14 AM

jw wrote:

x-no-archive: yes
On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 15:32:34 GMT, Bible Bob
<biblebobnospam@biblebob.net> wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved <keep it in the
group>

On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 04:29:34 -0700, jw <jw<no>@yoo.hoo> wrote:

x-no-archive: yes
On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 10:41:02 GMT, Bible Bob
<biblebobnospam@biblebob.net> wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved <keep it in the
group>

On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 00:42:27 -0700, jw <jw<no>@yoo.hoo> wrote:

x-no-archive: yes
On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 17:05:04 +1100,

(Clover) wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved <keep it in the
group>

In article <b5do915di44jq2h6udhg4fctio3549l4rb@4ax.com>, jw
<jw<no>@yoo.hoo> wrote:

I suffer adult ADD.

What a surprise

We all have our deficiencies. What are yours, besides being a dumbass?

jw

Steve Winters Jr aka jw.

You, Bible Bob, are a God damned liar.

Steve Winters is another Oneness cultist like you. I am a Trinitarian.

jw

snip

jw,

Proved my point.

You OBVIOUSLY can't read, and you are now proving that you are insane.

I have REPEATEDLY said I am Trinitarian.

And we are done.

You have wasted enough of my time, you imposter son of Satan!

jw

I'm a Frisbyterian. We believe that after death the souls of naughty
people get stuck on a roof. We're still working out the frisbology of
what happens to the nice folks.
JM
.

User: "Mike Painter"
Title: Re: Topical Bible Study-How to biblically invest into the lives of others	02 Jun 2005 01:41:59 PM

Just Mark wrote:

I'm a Frisbyterian. We believe that after death the souls of naughty
people get stuck on a roof. We're still working out the frisbology of
what happens to the nice folks.

Clearly they spend their times being thrown straight and true by people at
places like this:
http://www.worldfest.net/media_video/photo_album.php
.

User: "Just Mark"
Title: Re: Topical Bible Study-How to biblically invest into the lives of others	02 Jun 2005 01:54:00 PM

Mike Painter wrote:

Just Mark wrote:

I'm a Frisbyterian. We believe that after death the souls of naughty
people get stuck on a roof. We're still working out the frisbology of
what happens to the nice folks.

Clearly they spend their times being thrown straight and true by people at
places like this:
http://www.worldfest.net/media_video/photo_album.php

Ah hmmm.... Or here: http://www.twinoaks.org/index.html
JM
.

User: "Just Mark"
Title: Re: Topical Bible Study-How to biblically invest into the lives of others	01 Jun 2005 09:57:14 AM

jw wrote:

x-no-archive: yes
On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 10:41:02 GMT, Bible Bob
<biblebobnospam@biblebob.net> wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved <keep it in the
group>

On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 00:42:27 -0700, jw <jw<no>@yoo.hoo> wrote:

x-no-archive: yes
On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 17:05:04 +1100,

(Clover) wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved <keep it in the
group>

In article <b5do915di44jq2h6udhg4fctio3549l4rb@4ax.com>, jw
<jw<no>@yoo.hoo> wrote:

I suffer adult ADD.

What a surprise

We all have our deficiencies. What are yours, besides being a dumbass?

jw

Steve Winters Jr aka jw.

You, Bible Bob, are a God damned liar.

Steve Winters is another Oneness cultist like you. I am a Trinitarian.

Remind me again... Why should all of this ***** make me want to be a
Christian?
JM
.

User: "Mike Painter"
Title: Re: Topical Bible Study-How to biblically invest into the lives of others	01 Jun 2005 12:40:27 PM

Just Mark wrote:

You, Bible Bob, are a God damned liar.

Steve Winters is another Oneness cultist like you. I am a
Trinitarian.

Remind me again... Why should all of this ***** make me want to be
a Christian?

If they would put an "r" in topical and fund us for a few months in Jamaca
I'd study the bible there.
Say an hour of class time in the late morning followed by looking for
examples of their god's existance on the land and in the ocean.
.

User: "Just Mark"
Title: Re: Topical Bible Study-How to biblically invest into the lives of others	01 Jun 2005 01:24:51 PM

Mike Painter wrote:

Just Mark wrote:

You, Bible Bob, are a God damned liar.

Steve Winters is another Oneness cultist like you. I am a
Trinitarian.

Remind me again... Why should all of this ***** make me want to be
a Christian?

That sounds good. I choose the semester that begins in January. Will
Captain Morgan be there, too?
JM
.

User: "Mike Painter"
Title: Re: Topical Bible Study-How to biblically invest into the lives of others	01 Jun 2005 11:25:51 PM

Just Mark wrote:

Mike Painter wrote:

Just Mark wrote:

You, Bible Bob, are a God damned liar.

Steve Winters is another Oneness cultist like you. I am a
Trinitarian.

Remind me again... Why should all of this ***** make me want to
be a Christian?

If they would put an "r" in topical and fund us for a few months in
Jamaca I'd study the bible there.
Say an hour of class time in the late morning followed by looking for
examples of their god's existance on the land and in the ocean.

That sounds good. I choose the semester that begins in January. Will
Captain Morgan be there, too?

I'm not sure but it might be like taking a Taco Bell burrito to Mexico.
I don't know because I don't drink and if I did it would have to be the (not
very good as I've been told) beer in the tropical commercial where the guy
skipped the pager across the water. I wore one 24x7x360 on average for over
15 years,a and I called in when I didn't wear it.
.

User: "Bible Bob"
Title: Re: Topical Bible Study-How to biblically invest into the lives of others	01 Jun 2005 10:52:09 AM

On 1 Jun 2005 07:57:14 -0700, "Just Mark"
<neverassumeyouknow@yahoo.com> wrote:

jw wrote:

x-no-archive: yes
On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 10:41:02 GMT, Bible Bob
<biblebobnospam@biblebob.net> wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved <keep it in the
group>

On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 00:42:27 -0700, jw <jw<no>@yoo.hoo> wrote:

x-no-archive: yes
On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 17:05:04 +1100,

(Clover) wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved <keep it in the
group>

In article <b5do915di44jq2h6udhg4fctio3549l4rb@4ax.com>, jw
<jw<no>@yoo.hoo> wrote:

I suffer adult ADD.

What a surprise

We all have our deficiencies. What are yours, besides being a dumbass?

jw

Steve Winters Jr aka jw.

You, Bible Bob, are a God damned liar.

Steve Winters is another Oneness cultist like you. I am a Trinitarian.

Remind me again... Why should all of this ***** make me want to be a
Christian?

JM

JM,
So that you can worship false gods and get away with it? So that you
can be proud of your behavior - after all it can't be as bad as jw the
Christian? So that you can get a free government pay check by
learning from his example?
Non-commercial website where everything is free.
http://www.biblebob.net
BB
.

User: "Just Mark"
Title: Re: Topical Bible Study-How to biblically invest into the lives of others	01 Jun 2005 11:03:33 AM

Bible Bob wrote:

On 1 Jun 2005 07:57:14 -0700, "Just Mark"
<neverassumeyouknow@yahoo.com> wrote:

jw wrote:

x-no-archive: yes
On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 10:41:02 GMT, Bible Bob
<biblebobnospam@biblebob.net> wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved <keep it in the
group>

On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 00:42:27 -0700, jw <jw<no>@yoo.hoo> wrote:

x-no-archive: yes
On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 17:05:04 +1100,

(Clover) wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved <keep it in the
group>

In article <b5do915di44jq2h6udhg4fctio3549l4rb@4ax.com>, jw
<jw<no>@yoo.hoo> wrote:

I suffer adult ADD.

What a surprise

We all have our deficiencies. What are yours, besides being a dumbass?

jw

Steve Winters Jr aka jw.

You, Bible Bob, are a God damned liar.

Steve Winters is another Oneness cultist like you. I am a Trinitarian.

Remind me again... Why should all of this ***** make me want to be a
Christian?

JM

JM,

So that you can worship false gods and get away with it? So that you
can be proud of your behavior - after all it can't be as bad as jw the
Christian? So that you can get a free government pay check by
learning from his example?

I'm sure I don't understand your reply.
I don't worship any gods, goddesses, fairies, pixies, ghosts, goblins,
etc.
I'm only proud of my behavior when it benefits somebody.
And, I work for a living.
So....what's your point? Or was this vitriol indirectly intended for
Weatherly?
JM
.

User: "Bible Bob"
Title: Re: Topical Bible Study-How to biblically invest into the lives of others	01 Jun 2005 11:41:15 AM

On 1 Jun 2005 09:03:33 -0700, "Just Mark"
<neverassumeyouknow@yahoo.com> wrote:

Bible Bob wrote:

On 1 Jun 2005 07:57:14 -0700, "Just Mark"
<neverassumeyouknow@yahoo.com> wrote:

jw wrote:

On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 00:42:27 -0700, jw <jw<no>@yoo.hoo> wrote:

x-no-archive: yes
On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 17:05:04 +1100,

In article <b5do915di44jq2h6udhg4fctio3549l4rb@4ax.com>, jw
<jw<no>@yoo.hoo> wrote:

I suffer adult ADD.

What a surprise

We all have our deficiencies. What are yours, besides being a dumbass?

jw

Steve Winters Jr aka jw.

You, Bible Bob, are a God damned liar.

Steve Winters is another Oneness cultist like you. I am a Trinitarian.

Remind me again... Why should all of this ***** make me want to be a
Christian?

JM

JM,

So that you can worship false gods and get away with it? So that you
can be proud of your behavior - after all it can't be as bad as jw the
Christian? So that you can get a free government pay check by
learning from his example?

I'm sure I don't understand your reply.

I don't worship any gods, goddesses, fairies, pixies, ghosts, goblins,
etc.

I'm only proud of my behavior when it benefits somebody.

And, I work for a living.

So....what's your point? Or was this vitriol indirectly intended for
Weatherly?

JM

I was talking to you, not jw.
I guess Eddie Murphy has nothing to fear from me.
Non-commercial website where everything is free.
http://www.biblebob.net
BB
.

User: "Just Mark"
Title: Re: Topical Bible Study-How to biblically invest into the lives of others	01 Jun 2005 12:46:31 PM

Bible Bob wrote:

On 1 Jun 2005 09:03:33 -0700, "Just Mark"
<neverassumeyouknow@yahoo.com> wrote:

Bible Bob wrote:

On 1 Jun 2005 07:57:14 -0700, "Just Mark"
<neverassumeyouknow@yahoo.com> wrote:

jw wrote:

On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 00:42:27 -0700, jw <jw<no>@yoo.hoo> wrote:

x-no-archive: yes
On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 17:05:04 +1100,

In article <b5do915di44jq2h6udhg4fctio3549l4rb@4ax.com>, jw
<jw<no>@yoo.hoo> wrote:

I suffer adult ADD.

What a surprise

We all have our deficiencies. What are yours, besides being a dumbass?

jw

Steve Winters Jr aka jw.

You, Bible Bob, are a God damned liar.

Steve Winters is another Oneness cultist like you. I am a Trinitarian.

Remind me again... Why should all of this ***** make me want to be a
Christian?

JM

JM,

So that you can worship false gods and get away with it? So that you
can be proud of your behavior - after all it can't be as bad as jw the
Christian? So that you can get a free government pay check by
learning from his example?

I'm sure I don't understand your reply.

I don't worship any gods, goddesses, fairies, pixies, ghosts, goblins,
etc.

I'm only proud of my behavior when it benefits somebody.

And, I work for a living.

So....what's your point? Or was this vitriol indirectly intended for
Weatherly?

JM

I was talking to you, not jw.

I guess Eddie Murphy has nothing to fear from me.

Guess not.
I was asking why all of the ridiculous bickering and hatred I'm
witnessing here should be a mark in favor of Christianity. If the same
book can be interpreted so many different ways, and then used to create
heated and acrimonious divisions between the people who claim to hold
it dear, then why should a non-believer be held culpable for
maintaining his non-belief?
Frankly, there's more fellowship and good will at a baseball game than
there is amongst the Christians here. I read nothing but words of
suspicion and venom here. If somebody were to try to convert me in
this group, my answer would have to be, "You've gotta be kidding!"
JM
.

User: "Bible Bob"
Title: Re: Topical Bible Study-How to biblically invest into the lives of others	01 Jun 2005 03:28:49 PM

On 1 Jun 2005 10:46:31 -0700, "Just Mark"
<neverassumeyouknow@yahoo.com> wrote:

Bible Bob wrote:

On 1 Jun 2005 09:03:33 -0700, "Just Mark"
<neverassumeyouknow@yahoo.com> wrote:

Bible Bob wrote:

On 1 Jun 2005 07:57:14 -0700, "Just Mark"
<neverassumeyouknow@yahoo.com> wrote:

jw wrote:

On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 00:42:27 -0700, jw <jw<no>@yoo.hoo> wrote:

x-no-archive: yes
On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 17:05:04 +1100,

In article <b5do915di44jq2h6udhg4fctio3549l4rb@4ax.com>, jw
<jw<no>@yoo.hoo> wrote:

I suffer adult ADD.

What a surprise

We all have our deficiencies. What are yours, besides being a dumbass?

jw

Steve Winters Jr aka jw.

You, Bible Bob, are a God damned liar.

Steve Winters is another Oneness cultist like you. I am a Trinitarian.

Remind me again... Why should all of this ***** make me want to be a
Christian?

JM

JM,

So that you can worship false gods and get away with it? So that you
can be proud of your behavior - after all it can't be as bad as jw the
Christian? So that you can get a free government pay check by
learning from his example?

I'm sure I don't understand your reply.

I don't worship any gods, goddesses, fairies, pixies, ghosts, goblins,
etc.

I'm only proud of my behavior when it benefits somebody.

And, I work for a living.

So....what's your point? Or was this vitriol indirectly intended for
Weatherly?

JM

I was talking to you, not jw.

I guess Eddie Murphy has nothing to fear from me.

Guess not.

I was asking why all of the ridiculous bickering and hatred I'm
witnessing here should be a mark in favor of Christianity. If the same
book can be interpreted so many different ways, and then used to create
heated and acrimonious divisions between the people who claim to hold
it dear, then why should a non-believer be held culpable for
maintaining his non-belief?

Frankly, there's more fellowship and good will at a baseball game than
there is amongst the Christians here. I read nothing but words of
suspicion and venom here. If somebody were to try to convert me in
this group, my answer would have to be, "You've gotta be kidding!"

JM

JM,
Thanks.
Point taken.
Non-commercial website where everything is free.
http://www.biblebob.net
BB
.

User: "Clover"
Title: Re: Topical Bible Study-How to biblically invest into the lives of others	31 May 2005 05:40:27 PM

In article <b5do915di44jq2h6udhg4fctio3549l4rb@4ax.com>, jw
<jw<no>@yoo.hoo> wrote:

And what form should that water baptism
take?

A couple of pints at the local pub in the presence of Jesus perhaps?
(and the rest of the world starves)
.

User: "Bible Bob"
Title: Re: Topical Bible Study-How to biblically invest into the lives of others	31 May 2005 08:39:41 AM

On Tue, 31 May 2005 02:58:17 -0700, jw <jw<no>@yoo.hoo> wrote:

Very interesting lesson, John. I skimmed it after about 5 paragraphs,
since I suffer adult ADD.

I'll get back to it.

I DO encourage you to challenge BB on his theology, and his doctrine.
You seem to be confused as to whether he's a Christian or not. Also
ask him what he means by "born again", and if he is. Does he believe
in the Baptism of the Spirit as being fully adequate to redeem us, or
does he REQUIRE water baptism? And what form should that water baptism
take?

Etc.

jw

John,
Born again from "gennao anothen" in John 3:3 and John 3:7 means "born
from above." In 1 Peter 1:23 "born again" is from "anagennao" means
to "bear" or "beget." To be born again means to receive the
incorruptible seed from the Father above, to be begotten of God, to
receive eternal life, etc.
1 Peter 1:23 KJV
23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible,
by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
With regard to baptism:
Acts 1:5 KJV
5 For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with
the Holy Ghost not many days hence.
Jesus said, the lesser (water baptism) shall be superceded by the
greater (spirit) not many days hence. Ten days later Peter said:
Acts 2:38 KJV
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of
you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye
shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 2:41 KJV
41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the
same day there were added [unto them] about three thousand souls.
Jesus delivered what He said would come. Water is not mentioned in
verse 38 or verse 41. They were baptized with spirit when they
received his word. Water doesn't get a person saved, spirit does
because spirit is eternal life. Water is of the earth and earthy and
therefore temporal and symbolic. Spirit is eternal, henavenly, and
literal.
BB

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User: "one.with.Christ"
Title: Re: Topical Bible Study-How to biblically invest into the lives of others	31 May 2005 10:16:42 AM

"Bible Bob" <biblebobnospam@biblebob.net> wrote in message
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On Tue, 31 May 2005 02:58:17 -0700, jw <jw<no>@yoo.hoo> wrote:

Very interesting lesson, John. I skimmed it after about 5 paragraphs,
since I suffer adult ADD.

I'll get back to it.

I DO encourage you to challenge BB on his theology, and his doctrine.
You seem to be confused as to whether he's a Christian or not. Also
ask him what he means by "born again", and if he is. Does he believe
in the Baptism of the Spirit as being fully adequate to redeem us, or
does he REQUIRE water baptism? And what form should that water baptism
take?

Etc.

jw

John,

Born again from "gennao anothen" in John 3:3 and John 3:7 means "born
from above." In 1 Peter 1:23 "born again" is from "anagennao" means
to "bear" or "beget." To be born again means to receive the
incorruptible seed from the Father above, to be begotten of God, to
receive eternal life, etc.

1 Peter 1:23 KJV
23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible,
by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

With regard to baptism:

Acts 1:5 KJV
5 For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with
the Holy Ghost not many days hence.

Jesus said, the lesser (water baptism) shall be superceded by the
greater (spirit) not many days hence. Ten days later Peter said:

Acts 2:38 KJV
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of
you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye
shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Acts 2:41 KJV
41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the
same day there were added [unto them] about three thousand souls.

Jesus delivered what He said would come. Water is not mentioned in
verse 38 or verse 41. They were baptized with spirit when they
received his word. Water doesn't get a person saved, spirit does
because spirit is eternal life. Water is of the earth and earthy and
therefore temporal and symbolic. Spirit is eternal, henavenly, and
literal.

BB

Tell me something...why was Christ baptized?

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