Religions > Bible > Torture Is For Cowards ... Stupid Cowards ... Impeachment Referendum... SAVE YOURSELF
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"robinhood zorro" |
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20 Sep 2006 04:19:19 PM |
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Torture Is For Cowards ... Stupid Cowards ... Impeachment Referendum... SAVE YOURSELF |
NOVEMBER IS IMPEACHMENT REFERENDUM OF THE BUSH CRIME FAMILY...do your
part to save the USA and mankind.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/3/29/193445/904
http://64.233.161.104/search?q=3Dcache:n0QU-xqpkkIJ:www.apfn.org/pdf/DIY.pd=
f+do+it+yourself+impeachment&hl=3Den&gl=3Dus&ct=3Dclnk&cd=3D10
(the above link is the html version of a pdf file... please click on
the pdf link it brings up and download the form that lets you help in
getting Bush impeached... you need Adobe to read and print the pdf
form)
Note there are also clauses in the Constitution by which we can get
impeached all the corrupt judges that the impeached Bush has stacked
the courts with....
Do Not Give Up Hope.
-- Bush Crime Family Is the "Mountain of Corruption" on which all the
other molehills live(dating back to granpappy Prescott Bush's
patnership with Adolph Hitler) ... it is a symbiotic coupling, cut off
the head of the serpent and the culture of corruption surrounding and
supporting Bush Crime Family will fade. NOVEMBER IS A REFERENDUM ON
IMPEACHMENT OF THE BUSH CRIME FAMILY...do your part to save mankind...
vote Democrat (or if the Green Candidate is winning vote Green)
Karl Rove exposed, thus destroying, a legitimate undercover CIA
operation that was protecting the U.S. and the world from black market
nuclear weapons... WHY? because they had proven that Bush was lying
about WMD's in Iraq before the 2004 elections. Karl Rove, one of the
main people who tells Bush what to say(everyone knows Bush is dumb as a
rock) is guilty of TREASON.
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TORTURE IS FOR COWARDS ... STUPID COWARDS
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rj-eskow/torture-is-for-cowards-_b_29833.html
09.20.2006
Torture Is For Cowards ... Stupid Cowards
By RJ Eskow
Here's where the Republican Party has brought the United States:
We are being lectured on the immorality of torture by Uganda.
And rightfully so.
The nation that was once the most brutal torture capital in the world
has changed - and sadly, so have we.
I'm pleased that three GOP Senators and an ex-Secretary of State appear
to have had enough - although that one's still in play.
After all, how do you "negotiate" the allowable limits of torture in a
civilized society?
The very idea disgraces us.
And McCain caved on the torture issue when he had a real card to play
-- in the 2004 election.
But let's hope they come through this time, for their country's sake.
Here's what our leaders are telling us:
We're afraid.
We know we're not very good at national security.
We've read the reports that say our airports, power plants, and ports
are no safer than they were on 9/11.
We don't know how to win wars and protect our homeland the American
way, so we need to cheat.
We need to jettison the values that make us Americans.
We can't protect America and preserve the values that make it America.
That's what the Republicans are saying.
Their consigliere is Alan Dershowitz.
A year ago, his briefs for torture were the extremist sentiments of a
fringe thinker.
Now his point of view, which is that the rules for torture should be
codified into statutes, is about to become American law.
That's how radical this government is, and how quickly it moves to
undercut core American beliefs.
Americans used to say they were willing to fight and die for their
liberties.
Not these guys.
They were too cowardly to go fight in a war they supported.
Now they're too frightened even to cower in their 'secure undisclosed
locations,' if they're required to meet the rules of a civilized
society.
And their cowardice echoed by today's conservative keyboard warriors
and television Rambos.
That's the "coward" part.
Here's the "stupid" part:
Military officers and intelligence officials oppose the hideous Bush
bill because they know it will endanger Americans, not protect them.
Our military leaders - the ones insulted and belitted by the arrogant
amateur Rumsfeld - know that our fighting men and women are far more
likely to be tortured horribly if this bill goes through.
(Yes, they've been tortured before, but the generals know full well how
much worse it can get.)
Like our military leaders, the intelligence experts hate this bill
because they know more than the amateurs do.
They know that torture gives you lousy intelligence, and that bad
intelligence slows you down by sending you down the wrong roads when
you're trying to find the bad guys.
The cowardice is also very personal for Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld.
They're no doubt afraid that, unless this bill is passed, they may
someday stand trial for the atrocities they've committed - some of
which may not yet have come to light.
Lastly, here's where "stupid" and "coward" come together:
An America that's disrespected in the world community won't get
cooperation from allies and neutral countries.
That cooperation is needed if we're going to root out the terrorists
and destroy them.
The crowd that's in power now talks about our values, but they can't
wait to dump them.
They talk about being better than the terrorists, then can't wait to
act just like them.
They're a stain on our national honor.
It's no coincidence that the guys with the guts to fight the
conservatives' wars think torture is a bad idea, while chickenhawks
like Bush, Cheney, and Frist think waterboarding is the best idea to
come out of Argentina since the tango.
Cowards, go home.
Let the experts do their jobs.
If you do, then maybe someday soon Americans will again be able to
speak to the world with the moral authority of Ugandans.
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"Patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels."
Samuel Johnson
"And cowards" is an appropriate addition in this case.
Harry
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Reply From: NuGrass (in talk.politics.misc)
That's all par for the course from a group that never should have been
in power in the first place let alone elected for a second time.
They torture people but still can't find Bin Laden.
Where is the person that outed a CIA agent for revenge?
They got rid of the only person with any honor in their regeme, Colin
Powel, so that the words "we can't do that, it would be wrong" would
never interupt one of their meetings.
And this is just a short list for the morning!
David
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"Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders
of the country who determine the policy, and [...] the
people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is
easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked,and
denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country
to greater danger."
-- Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials
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Harry
(see all of Harry Hope's excellent posts as they break, put this link
in your browser, use it, this is a search on google groups, on the
author Harry Hope sorted by date... nothing fancy):
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=3D&start=3D0&scoring=3Dd&enc_author=3D-nI=
hFBQAAACtBOUGAhN9cSve8yYdFJBuOPANdqfI6prRsqjc7uCt1A&
With history moving so fast these days you might also want to sort
Harry Hope's posts by "relevance" particulary if the lies and
misdirection that we are all being sujected to by the extensive Bush
Crime Family Propagand machine are confusing you. Using the "sort by
relevance" option has a way of letting you take in the big picture.
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=3D&start=3D0&enc_author=3D-nIhFBQAAACtBOU=
GAhN9cSve8yYdFJBuOPANdqfI6prRsqjc7uCt1A&
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| Title: Re: Torture Is For Cowards ... Stupid Cowards ... Impeachment Referendum... SAVE YOURSELF |
22 Sep 2006 10:22:13 PM |
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(in alt.prisons)
Stevie wrote:
Brainwashing from repeated exposure of disinformation. And also idiocy (as
you pointed out). There's a Democrat running for congress that in his ads
actually said that, "President Bush tried to sell our ports...bla, bla..."
If Bush were honest (remember Carter? hell even Clinton is a saint
compared to Bush jr.)
DO YOU HAVE EVEN ONE EXAMPLE THAT HAS TURNED OUT BUSH WAS NOT LYING?
First he said there were nuclear arms in Iraq... later claimed that the
"intelligence was bad" (of course admitting that they faked the
"intelligence" will take impeachment hearings before it comes out)
First he denied the secret prisons. Then certain people in the CIA said
the hell with Bush, suddenly Bush sez oh yeah we meant to move those
guys to gitmo.
Then he denied that the torture at Abu Ghraib was ordered from the top
(but if you look at the ***** covering that Bush people such as Gonzales
was doing for Bush to torture people long before Abu Ghraib came out...
you can figure out that Bush knew about the torture before they even
did it.)
THE THING I AM HOPING YOU HAVE ENOUGH SENSE TO RECOGNIZE IS THAT GAS
PRICES WERE LOWERED BY THE BUSH CRIME FAMILY FOR JUST A SMALL WINDOW
BEFORE NOVEMBER TO MAKE VOTERS THINK BUSH IS TRYING TO HELP... Bush is
trying to help no american. He is helping his Big-Oil cronies be they
Saudi, Bin Ladens, or Military-Industrial complex.
Similar to Hitler's pre-war Germany Bush is pushing the U.S. into a
war... a war which may truly be the last because there will be no one
left alive.
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