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"Therion Ware" |
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12 Jan 2005 10:15:02 AM |
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Torture to uncover brain secrets [?]. |
I know it's an electic group to post to, but one thinks they'll need
controls....
Your thoughts welcome.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4167565.stm
Torture to uncover brain secrets
Volunteers are to undergo torture to see if faith eases pain.
Oxford University scientists will carry out experiments on hundreds of
people in a bid to understand how the brain works during states of
consciousness.
One aspect of the two-year study will involve followers of both
religious and secular beliefs being burnt to see if they can handle
more pain than others.
Some volunteers will be shown religious symbols such as crucifixes and
images of the Virgin Mary during the torture.
How scientists plan to torture volunteers
Gel - A gel containing chilli can be applied to the back of the hand
to simulate a burning sensation
Heat-pad - A pad which can reach up to 60C will be put against the
skin
Researchers believe the study may improve understanding of faith, how
robust it is and how easily it can be dislodged.
The team from the newly-formed Centre for Science of the Mind also
want to include people with survival techniques in the torture
experiments, which may help the special forces easily identify people
with high pain thresholds.
Volunteers will have a gel containing chilli powder or heat-pad
applied to the back of their hand to simulate pain.
Scans
A team of neurologists, pharmacologists and anatomists will then
analyse how people react by using brain scans.
Another part of the research involves tests using anaesthetic, to see
what effect it has on the brain and why some people need higher doses
to make them unconscious.
Baroness Greenfield, director of the centre, said 20 years ago
scientists had shied away from studying the brain in such away but
that was now changing.
"We want to find out what the brain is doing, how it is working when
we are having feelings and most importantly of all when we are
conscious.
Christians feel pain just like everyone else, but many would say that
their belief in a God who cares and the promises of the Bible are a
huge comfort in difficult times
Church of England spokesman
"I am not promising we are going to solve the problem, I don't think
we are.
"But I think we are going to get more of an insight."
Centre deputy director Toby Collins added: "The reason we are using
pain is that it is easily standardised but varies greatly between
individuals.
"The pain matrix is not fully understood yet."
Dr Alison Gray, a spokeswoman for the Royal College of Psychiatrists,
said: "The experience of pain depends on biological factors such as
the amount of tissue damage and release of natural pain killers -
endorphins - in the brain.
"We know anecdotally that religious believers can tolerate great pain
when there is a specific purpose, and I would speculate that this
would operate via endorphin release.
"Religious practices such as prayer and meditation release endorphins
and would in theory increase the pain threshold.
"It will be interesting to see what these trials show, it may be that
the specific purpose of bearing the pain is missing, if so I would
expect the tests would be inconclusive."
But the Church of England said it was possible religion could be of
help.
A spokesman said: "Pain is a fact of life, whatever your beliefs.
Christians feel pain just like everyone else, but many would say that
their belief in a God who cares and the promises of the Bible are a
huge comfort in difficult times."
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/health/4167565.stm
Published: 2005/01/12 12:00:12 GMT
© BBC MMV
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| User: "Clayton Brand Ewok Skin Bedroom Slippers" |
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| Title: Re: Torture to uncover brain secrets [?]. |
12 Jan 2005 07:04:14 PM |
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"Therion Ware" <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message
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I know it's an electic group to post to, but one thinks they'll need
controls....
Your thoughts welcome.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4167565.stm
Torture to uncover brain secrets
Volunteers are to undergo torture to see if faith eases pain.
I want to apply to be one of the torturers....I've got lots and lots of
good, original...in fact almost sub-human.... ideas of things to do to
them!!!
:D
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| User: "sanguinevikings" |
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| Title: Re: Torture to uncover brain secrets [?]. |
13 Jan 2005 01:35:45 AM |
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Therion Ware wrote:
Some volunteers will be shown religious symbols such as crucifixes and
images of the Virgin Mary during the torture.
:-)
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| User: "Kathy" |
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| Title: Re: Torture to uncover brain secrets [?]. |
13 Jan 2005 07:24:31 AM |
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"sanguinevikings" <spam@spam.not> wrote in message
news:5b6dnTv2csVTuXvcRVnyrA@brightview.com...
Therion Ware wrote:
Some volunteers will be shown religious symbols such as crucifixes and
images of the Virgin Mary during the torture.
:-)
So it is in fact a bible prophesy come true! People are being
tortured/persecuted for their faith! Wow. I hope they realize the flaw in
their study, however. Since the bible says people will suffer for their
faith, it follows that the bible believers will in fact suffer *more* than
the non-believers from this experiment. Otherwise, they wouldn't be *True
Believers* (tm).
I hope their suffering teaches them all a valuable lesson from Gawd.
Kathy aa #1802
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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| Title: Re: Torture to uncover brain secrets [?]. |
13 Jan 2005 08:08:54 AM |
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On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 07:24:31 -0600 in alt.atheism, Kathy ("Kathy"
<k.knight@rogers.com>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
"sanguinevikings" <spam@spam.not> wrote in message
news:5b6dnTv2csVTuXvcRVnyrA@brightview.com...
Therion Ware wrote:
Some volunteers will be shown religious symbols such as crucifixes and
images of the Virgin Mary during the torture.
:-)
So it is in fact a bible prophesy come true! People are being
tortured/persecuted for their faith! Wow. I hope they realize the flaw in
their study, however. Since the bible says people will suffer for their
faith, it follows that the bible believers will in fact suffer *more* than
the non-believers from this experiment. Otherwise, they wouldn't be *True
Believers* (tm).
I hope their suffering teaches them all a valuable lesson from Gawd.
No doubt it will. But the study does see a bit, erm, problematic in as
much as I'd be willing to put a tenner (one time, one bet...!) on it
being established that anyone who has a strong belief, religious,
communist, atheist, nazi, or whatever is better able to resist pain
*provided* that resistance is perceived as furthering their beliefs,
so IMO what they'll end up establishing is nothing new (but might be
proven as opposed to anecdotal, which is a good thing).
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| User: "sanguinevikings" |
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| Title: Re: Torture to uncover brain secrets [?]. |
13 Jan 2005 08:11:08 AM |
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Kathy wrote:
"sanguinevikings" <spam@spam.not> wrote in message
news:5b6dnTv2csVTuXvcRVnyrA@brightview.com...
Therion Ware wrote:
Some volunteers will be shown religious symbols such as crucifixes and
images of the Virgin Mary during the torture.
:-)
So it is in fact a bible prophesy come true! People are being
tortured/persecuted for their faith! Wow. I hope they realize the flaw in
their study, however. Since the bible says people will suffer for their
faith, it follows that the bible believers will in fact suffer *more* than
the non-believers from this experiment. Otherwise, they wouldn't be *True
Believers* (tm).
I hope their suffering teaches them all a valuable lesson from Gawd.
Kathy aa #1802
I smiled because the phrase 'aversion therapy' sprung immediately to mind.
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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| Title: Re: Torture to uncover brain secrets [?]. |
13 Jan 2005 08:17:41 AM |
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On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:11:08 +0000 in alt.atheism, sanguinevikings
(sanguinevikings <spam@spam.not>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
Kathy wrote:
"sanguinevikings" <spam@spam.not> wrote in message
news:5b6dnTv2csVTuXvcRVnyrA@brightview.com...
Therion Ware wrote:
Some volunteers will be shown religious symbols such as crucifixes and
images of the Virgin Mary during the torture.
:-)
So it is in fact a bible prophesy come true! People are being
tortured/persecuted for their faith! Wow. I hope they realize the flaw in
their study, however. Since the bible says people will suffer for their
faith, it follows that the bible believers will in fact suffer *more* than
the non-believers from this experiment. Otherwise, they wouldn't be *True
Believers* (tm).
I hope their suffering teaches them all a valuable lesson from Gawd.
Kathy aa #1802
I smiled because the phrase 'aversion therapy' sprung immediately to mind.
Isn't that what our friend Jason Gastrich is trying to establish a
practice in?
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| User: "sanguinevikings" |
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| Title: Re: Torture to uncover brain secrets [?]. |
13 Jan 2005 08:34:08 AM |
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Therion Ware wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:11:08 +0000 in alt.atheism, sanguinevikings
(sanguinevikings <spam@spam.not>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
Kathy wrote:
"sanguinevikings" <spam@spam.not> wrote in message
news:5b6dnTv2csVTuXvcRVnyrA@brightview.com...
Therion Ware wrote:
Some volunteers will be shown religious symbols such as crucifixes and
images of the Virgin Mary during the torture.
:-)
So it is in fact a bible prophesy come true! People are being
tortured/persecuted for their faith! Wow. I hope they realize the flaw in
their study, however. Since the bible says people will suffer for their
faith, it follows that the bible believers will in fact suffer *more* than
the non-believers from this experiment. Otherwise, they wouldn't be *True
Believers* (tm).
I hope their suffering teaches them all a valuable lesson from Gawd.
Kathy aa #1802
I smiled because the phrase 'aversion therapy' sprung immediately to mind.
Isn't that what our friend Jason Gastrich is trying to establish a
practice in?
RTFLMAO!
Jason *is* aversion therapy.
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: Torture to uncover brain secrets [?]. |
13 Jan 2005 02:19:33 PM |
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On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 07:24:31 -0600, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, "Kathy" <k.knight@rogers.com>
pontificated:
"sanguinevikings" <spam@spam.not> wrote in message
news:5b6dnTv2csVTuXvcRVnyrA@brightview.com...
Therion Ware wrote:
Some volunteers will be shown religious symbols such as crucifixes
and images of the Virgin Mary during the torture.
:-)
So it is in fact a bible prophesy come true! People are being
tortured/persecuted for their faith! Wow. I hope they realize the
flaw in their study, however. Since the bible says people will suffer
for their faith, it follows that the bible believers will in fact
suffer *more* than the non-believers from this experiment. Otherwise,
they wouldn't be *True Believers* (tm).
I hope their suffering teaches them all a valuable lesson from Gawd.
Your disrespect is deplorable but accurate. And you expect to be
taken seriously, when all you do, is poke fun and
insult. Jerks like you give idiots a bad name.
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditation." - Psalm 119:99
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"And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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13 Jan 2005 10:39:05 PM |
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On 13 Jan 2005 20:19:33 GMT, Pastor Dave
<newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> said in alt.atheism:
Your disrespect is deplorable but accurate. And you expect to be
taken seriously, when all you do, is poke fun and
insult. Jerks like you give idiots a bad name.
So do people who post the same post twice in the same hour.
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"I received your letter of June 10th. I have never talked to a Jesuit
priest in my life and I am astonished by the audacity to tell such lies
about me. From the viewpoint of a Jesuit priest I am, of course, and
have always been an atheist."
- Albert Einstein to Guy H. Raner Jr, July 2, 1945,
responding to a rumor that a Jesuit priest had caused Einstein
to convert from atheism. Article by Michael R. Gilmore in Skeptic
magazine, Vol. 5, No. 2, 1997
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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14 Jan 2005 02:59:09 PM |
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On 13 Jan 2005 20:19:33 GMT, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, Pastor Dave
<newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> pontificated:
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 07:24:31 -0600, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, "Kathy" <k.knight@rogers.com>
pontificated:
"sanguinevikings" <spam@spam.not> wrote in message
news:5b6dnTv2csVTuXvcRVnyrA@brightview.com...
Therion Ware wrote:
Some volunteers will be shown religious symbols such as crucifixes
and images of the Virgin Mary during the torture.
:-)
So it is in fact a bible prophesy come true! People are being
tortured/persecuted for their faith! Wow. I hope they realize the
flaw in their study, however. Since the bible says people will suffer
for their faith, it follows that the bible believers will in fact
suffer *more* than the non-believers from this experiment. Otherwise,
they wouldn't be *True Believers* (tm).
I hope their suffering teaches them all a valuable lesson from Gawd.
Your disrespect is deplorable but accurate. And you expect to be
taken seriously, when all you do, is poke fun and
insult. Jerks like you give idiots a bad name.
Whatever you say, Sharon.
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditation." - Psalm 119:99
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"And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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14 Jan 2005 07:10:05 PM |
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On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:59:09 GMT, Pastor Dave
<newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> said in alt.atheism:
On 13 Jan 2005 20:19:33 GMT, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, Pastor Dave
<newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> pontificated:
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 07:24:31 -0600, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, "Kathy" <k.knight@rogers.com>
pontificated:
Your disrespect is deplorable but accurate. And you expect to be
taken seriously, when all you do, is poke fun and
insult. Jerks like you give idiots a bad name.
Whatever you say, Sharon.
One minute you claim that responding is ridiculous ("To expect one to
respond to such an insulting post, is ridiculous."), the next minute
you respond.
Then you demand respect?
All you've earned is derision.
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"I am a deeply religious nonbeliever.... This is a somewhat new kind of religion."
- Letter to Hans Muehsam March 30, 1954; Einstein Archive 38-434
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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13 Jan 2005 01:27:30 PM |
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On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 07:24:31 -0600, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, "Kathy" <k.knight@rogers.com>
pontificated:
"sanguinevikings" <spam@spam.not> wrote in message
news:5b6dnTv2csVTuXvcRVnyrA@brightview.com...
Therion Ware wrote:
Some volunteers will be shown religious symbols such as crucifixes and
images of the Virgin Mary during the torture.
:-)
So it is in fact a bible prophesy come true! People are being
tortured/persecuted for their faith! Wow. I hope they realize the flaw in
their study, however. Since the bible says people will suffer for their
faith, it follows that the bible believers will in fact suffer *more* than
the non-believers from this experiment. Otherwise, they wouldn't be *True
Believers* (tm).
I hope their suffering teaches them all a valuable lesson from Gawd.
Your disrespect is deplorable. And you expect to be
taken seriously, when all you do, is poke fun and
insult.
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditation." - Psalm 119:99
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o{}xxxxx[]::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::>
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"And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
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| User: "John Warren" |
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| Title: Re: Torture to uncover brain secrets [?]. |
13 Jan 2005 01:45:28 PM |
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"Pastor Dave" <newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:nridu0lji00driclid72qav2o1mpp6mffh@4ax.com...
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 07:24:31 -0600, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, "Kathy" <k.knight@rogers.com>
pontificated:
"sanguinevikings" <spam@spam.not> wrote in message
news:5b6dnTv2csVTuXvcRVnyrA@brightview.com...
Therion Ware wrote:
Some volunteers will be shown religious symbols such as crucifixes and
images of the Virgin Mary during the torture.
:-)
So it is in fact a bible prophesy come true! People are being
tortured/persecuted for their faith! Wow. I hope they realize the flaw
in
their study, however. Since the bible says people will suffer for their
faith, it follows that the bible believers will in fact suffer *more* than
the non-believers from this experiment. Otherwise, they wouldn't be *True
Believers* (tm).
I hope their suffering teaches them all a valuable lesson from Gawd.
Your disrespect is deplorable. And you expect to be
taken seriously, when all you do, is poke fun and
insult.
Oh, I think the writer makes a good point. There are a significant number
of ecstatic religious who get off on pain (classic masochism) and, unable to
recognize or accept the essential endorphin high, instead chose to see it as
suffering from ghod.
This is particularly common in the Christian cults where "mortification of
the flesh" is held to be a positive action. Of course, off hand, I can't
recall any other religion that uses and instrument of torture as their
symbol.
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditation." - Psalm 119:99
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"And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
That's the deal. Go out and kill anyone who disagrees with you.
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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14 Jan 2005 02:58:53 PM |
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On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:45:28 -0500, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, "John Warren" <Drjohnwarren@adelphia.net>
pontificated:
Some volunteers will be shown religious symbols such as crucifixes and
images of the Virgin Mary during the torture.
:-)
So it is in fact a bible prophesy come true! People are being
tortured/persecuted for their faith! Wow. I hope they realize the flaw
in
their study, however. Since the bible says people will suffer for their
faith, it follows that the bible believers will in fact suffer *more* than
the non-believers from this experiment. Otherwise, they wouldn't be *True
Believers* (tm).
I hope their suffering teaches them all a valuable lesson from Gawd.
Your disrespect is deplorable. And you expect to be
taken seriously, when all you do, is poke fun and
insult.
Oh, I think the writer makes a good point.
Irrelevant. To expect one to respond to such an
insulting post, is ridiculous. Then of course, she
will claim that it is the believers who are
disrespectful and that atheists are good, respectful
people. Spelling God's name as, "Gawd" is done for one
reason and one reason only and that is to insult and
show complete disrespect.
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditation." - Psalm 119:99
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"And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
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| User: "John Warren" |
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| Title: Re: Torture to uncover brain secrets [?]. |
14 Jan 2005 03:13:47 PM |
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"Pastor Dave" <newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:qgcgu0dge1jhvni0cpfv9ef1g4npv2j74c@4ax.com...
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:45:28 -0500, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, "John Warren" <Drjohnwarren@adelphia.net>
pontificated:
Some volunteers will be shown religious symbols such as crucifixes
and
images of the Virgin Mary during the torture.
:-)
So it is in fact a bible prophesy come true! People are being
tortured/persecuted for their faith! Wow. I hope they realize the flaw
in
their study, however. Since the bible says people will suffer for their
faith, it follows that the bible believers will in fact suffer *more*
than
the non-believers from this experiment. Otherwise, they wouldn't be
*True
Believers* (tm).
I hope their suffering teaches them all a valuable lesson from Gawd.
Your disrespect is deplorable. And you expect to be
taken seriously, when all you do, is poke fun and
insult.
Oh, I think the writer makes a good point.
Irrelevant. To expect one to respond to such an
insulting post, is ridiculous. Then of course, she
will claim that it is the believers who are
disrespectful and that atheists are good, respectful
people. Spelling God's name as, "Gawd" is done for one
reason and one reason only and that is to insult and
show complete disrespect.
--
In my world, respect is EARNED.
One good way to lose respect is to snip the explanation part of a post.
Another is to murder thousands of innocent people. You have done the first
and your ghod has seemingly done the second.
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16 Jun 2005 09:21:10 PM |
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In the spirit realm no one dies, God murdered no one, besides murder mean
killing someone illegally, and God makes the rules.
"John Warren" <Drjohnwarren@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:aMmdnYpGTKvmq3XcRVn-hg@adelphia.com...
"Pastor Dave" <newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:qgcgu0dge1jhvni0cpfv9ef1g4npv2j74c@4ax.com...
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:45:28 -0500, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, "John Warren" <Drjohnwarren@adelphia.net>
pontificated:
Some volunteers will be shown religious symbols such as crucifixes
and
images of the Virgin Mary during the torture.
:-)
So it is in fact a bible prophesy come true! People are being
tortured/persecuted for their faith! Wow. I hope they realize the
flaw
in
their study, however. Since the bible says people will suffer for
their
faith, it follows that the bible believers will in fact suffer *more*
than
the non-believers from this experiment. Otherwise, they wouldn't be
*True
Believers* (tm).
I hope their suffering teaches them all a valuable lesson from Gawd.
Your disrespect is deplorable. And you expect to be
taken seriously, when all you do, is poke fun and
insult.
Oh, I think the writer makes a good point.
Irrelevant. To expect one to respond to such an
insulting post, is ridiculous. Then of course, she
will claim that it is the believers who are
disrespectful and that atheists are good, respectful
people. Spelling God's name as, "Gawd" is done for one
reason and one reason only and that is to insult and
show complete disrespect.
--
In my world, respect is EARNED.
One good way to lose respect is to snip the explanation part of a post.
Another is to murder thousands of innocent people. You have done the
first and your ghod has seemingly done the second.
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: Torture to uncover brain secrets [?]. |
15 Jan 2005 10:41:56 AM |
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On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:13:47 -0500, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, "John Warren" <Drjohnwarren@adelphia.net>
pontificated:
"Pastor Dave" <newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:qgcgu0dge1jhvni0cpfv9ef1g4npv2j74c@4ax.com...
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:45:28 -0500, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, "John Warren" <Drjohnwarren@adelphia.net>
pontificated:
Some volunteers will be shown religious symbols such as crucifixes
and
images of the Virgin Mary during the torture.
:-)
So it is in fact a bible prophesy come true! People are being
tortured/persecuted for their faith! Wow. I hope they realize the flaw
in
their study, however. Since the bible says people will suffer for their
faith, it follows that the bible believers will in fact suffer *more*
than
the non-believers from this experiment. Otherwise, they wouldn't be
*True
Believers* (tm).
I hope their suffering teaches them all a valuable lesson from Gawd.
Your disrespect is deplorable. And you expect to be
taken seriously, when all you do, is poke fun and
insult.
Oh, I think the writer makes a good point.
Irrelevant. To expect one to respond to such an
insulting post, is ridiculous. Then of course, she
will claim that it is the believers who are
disrespectful and that atheists are good, respectful
people. Spelling God's name as, "Gawd" is done for one
reason and one reason only and that is to insult and
show complete disrespect.
--
In my world, respect is EARNED.
Then in your world, it's okay to go around
disrespecting people, until you think they've earned
your respect. I would have thought your mother would
have taught you better manners than that.
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditation." - Psalm 119:99
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"And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/solution.html
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Torture to uncover brain secrets [?]. |
14 Jan 2005 07:07:17 PM |
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On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:58:53 GMT, Pastor Dave
<newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> said in alt.atheism:
Irrelevant. To expect one to respond to such an
insulting post, is ridiculous.
Now you're getting warm.
Everyone EXPECTS you to respond. No one WANTS you to.
Then of course, she
will claim that it is the believers who are
disrespectful
You post your religious ***** to alt.atheism and claim that you're NOT
disrespectful?
and that atheists are good, respectful
people. Spelling God's name as, "Gawd" is done for one
reason and one reason only and that is to insult and
show complete disrespect.
And you deserve something else because?
--
"I've heard the call. I believe God wants me to run for president."
--George W. Bush, quoted in George Magazine, September, 2000
"God gave the savior to the German people. We have faith,
deep and unshakeable faith, that he was sent to us by
God to save Germany."
--Hermann Goering, speaking of Hitler
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at verizon dot net
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| User: "sanguinevikings" |
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14 Jan 2005 03:17:45 PM |
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Pastor Dave wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:45:28 -0500, while scaling the
Mt. Everest, "John Warren" <Drjohnwarren@adelphia.net>
pontificated:
Some volunteers will be shown religious symbols such as crucifixes and
images of the Virgin Mary during the torture.
:-)
So it is in fact a bible prophesy come true! People are being
tortured/persecuted for their faith! Wow. I hope they realize the flaw
in
their study, however. Since the bible says people will suffer for their
faith, it follows that the bible believers will in fact suffer *more* than
the non-believers from this experiment. Otherwise, they wouldn't be *True
Believers* (tm).
I hope their suffering teaches them all a valuable lesson from Gawd.
Your disrespect is deplorable. And you expect to be
taken seriously, when all you do, is poke fun and
insult.
Oh, I think the writer makes a good point.
Irrelevant. To expect one to respond to such an
insulting post, is ridiculous. Then of course, she
will claim that it is the believers who are
disrespectful and that atheists are good, respectful
people. Spelling God's name as, "Gawd" is done for one
reason and one reason only and that is to insult and
show complete disrespect.
In-deedly-doodly.
<plonk>
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Torture to uncover brain secrets [?]. |
13 Jan 2005 10:37:59 PM |
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On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:27:30 GMT, Pastor Dave
<newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> said in alt.atheism:
Your disrespect is deplorable. And you expect to be
taken seriously, when all you do, is poke fun and
insult.
Respect has to be earned. All religion has earned so far is
disrespect.
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"A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything."
- Friedrich Nietzsche
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rukbat at verizon dot net
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Torture to uncover brain secrets [?]. |
18 Jan 2005 03:45:54 PM |
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On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 04:37:59 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:27:30 GMT, Pastor Dave
<newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> said in alt.atheism:
Your disrespect is deplorable. And you expect to be
taken seriously, when all you do, is poke fun and
insult.
Respect has to be earned. All religion has earned so far is
disrespect.
And laughter.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "Tukla Ratte" |
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12 Jan 2005 11:35:56 AM |
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Therion Ware wrote:
I know it's an electic group to post to, but one thinks they'll need
controls....
Your thoughts welcome.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4167565.stm
Burning them? See, in the U.S., the best way to torture theists would
be to block Fox News, NASCAR, and Desperate Housewives from their
televisions.
--
Tukla, Eater of Theists, Squeaker of Chew Toys
Official Mascot of Alt.Atheism, aa 1347
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