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Topic: Religions > Bible
User: "Pastor Winter JNAHC"
Date: 03 Nov 2003 12:30:48 PM
Object: Trinitarians are as saved as legion
In this study/sermon I show how the average denominal trinitarian
is just as saved as a devil.
Mark 5:2 And when he was come out of the ship, immediately there
met him out of the tombs a man with an unclean spirit,
3 Who had his dwelling among the tombs; and no man could bind
him, no, not with chains:
4 Because that he had been often bound with fetters and chains,
and the chains had been plucked asunder by him, and the fetters
broken in pieces: neither could any man tame him.
5 And always, night and day, he was in the mountains, and in the
tombs, crying, and cutting himself with stones.
6 But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him,
7 And cried with a loud voice, and said, What have I to do with
thee, Jesus, thou Son of the most high God? I adjure thee by God,
that thou torment me not.
Notice that the devils confessed Jesus as Lord (and even PRAYED
to Him, eh?). This is important because at that point the devils
fulfilled the salvation requirements of many denominal
trinitarian
cults.
8 For he said unto him, Come out of the man, thou unclean
spirit.
9 And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying,
My name is Legion: for we are many.
10 And he besought him much that he would not send them away out
of the country.
The devils prayed to Jesus after acknowledging Him as Lord God.
11 Now there was there nigh unto the mountains a great herd of
swine feeding.
12 And all the devils besought him, saying, Send us into the
swine, that we may enter into them.
More praying to Jesus by the devils!
13 And forthwith Jesus gave them leave. And the unclean spirits
went out, and entered into the swine: and the herd ran violently
down a steep place into the sea, (they were about two thousand;)
and were choked in the sea.
Jesus GRANTED their prayer request. He answered their prayer.
14 And they that fed the swine fled, and told it in the city,
and in the country. And they went out to see what it was that
was done.
15 And they come to Jesus, and see him that was possessed with
the devil, and had the legion, sitting, and clothed, and in his
right mind: and they were afraid.
16 And they that saw it told them how it befell to him that was
possessed with the devil, and also concerning the swine.
17 And they began to pray him to depart out of their coasts.
The townspeople asked Jesus to leave and He granted their request
as well.
Are you a Baptist, Presbyterian, Methodist etc? Well, you are
just as saved as the devils in Legion!
The townspeople asking Jesus to leave is a sermon in itself, but
my point here is that false churches are lying to you when they
tell you that if you just "believe" or "pray", or "acknowledge
Jesus as Lord" that you are "saved". Did not the devils in
Legion do those things?
Jesus gave the Apostle Peter the keys to the kingdom of heaven.
Matt 16:19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of
heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in
heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed
in heaven.
Then when men were honest and asked Peter what they could do,
Peter unlocked the kingdom of heaven.
Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly,
that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both
Lord and Christ.
Acts 2:37 Now when they heard [this], they were pricked in their
heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men
[and] brethren, what shall we do?
Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized
every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of
sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and
to all that are afar off, [even] as many as the Lord our God
shall call.
Acts 2:40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort,
saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
Acts 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized:
and the same day there were added [unto them] about three
thousand souls.
Notice there were 3000 there that elected to have their sins
remitted. So you'd better believe that the minister of Satan will
do just about anything that he can to try to downplay Acts 2:38.
Paul mentions that there will be those that come along and preach
"another gospel."
Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other
gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let
him be accursed.
Paul also didn't leave us in ignorance that when Satan's
ministers come, they come masquerading as "ministers of
righteousness", as smooth talking false preachers saying things
like, "Just claim belief and you are saved."
II Corinthians 11:13 For such [are] false apostles, deceitful
workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
II Corinthians 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is
transformed into an angel of light.
II Corinthians 11:15 Therefore [it is] no great thing if his
ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness;
whose end shall be according to their works.
It is the job of the false preacher to cause YOU to be among
those that don't obey Acts 2:38.
II Thessalonians 1:7 And to you who are troubled rest with us,
when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty
angels,
II Thessalonians 1:8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them
that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus
Christ:
II Thessalonians 1:9 Who shall be punished with everlasting
destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of
his power;
James 1:22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only,
deceiving your own selves.
Hebrews 5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of
eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;
Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and
wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
Just having the same salvation as the devils in Legion will leave
you eternally challenged.
Pastor sTeve Winter
--
Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal /*/ PreRapture Ministry
http://www.pentecostal.biz for Bible studies (text and audio)
Have you obeyed Acts 2:38 as Paul taught in Acts 19:4-6?
Email
to let them know how you feel about
their blatant religious discrimination against www.prerapture.org
.

User: "Lance S. Ferm"

Title: Trinitarians are saved! 17 Nov 2003 07:57:17 PM
John 15:26 "But when the Helper comes, whom I shall send to you from the
Father, the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify of
Me."
http://www.truthandgrace.com/Trinity.htm
"Demon Winter JNAHC" <steve@prime.org> wrote in message
news:fh7dqvghnb13k3trilan3852o8u57s613t@4ax.com...

In this study/sermon I show how the average denominal trinitarian
is just as saved as a devil.

.
User: "Pastor Winter JNAHC"

Title: Re: Trinitarians are saved! 17 Nov 2003 08:11:11 PM
"Lance S. Ferm" <lsferm@earthlink.net> spake thusly and wrote:

John 15:26 "But when the Helper comes, whom I shall send to you from the
Father, the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify of
Me."

It is good when false-christian scum like Lance S. Ferm post
scriptures that they believe justify their polytheism, but really
they are just ignorantly affirming their polytheism. It seems
that all the accursed little devil can muster is an occasional
out of context scripture that he feels justifies his rejection of
Biblical salvation.
The best defense against deceiving false-christian scum like
Lance Ferm is simply education and information, so let's have
another real Bible study.
Trinitarianism is, however, not merely stupid and foolish, it is
a spiritually fatal error.
I will explain in this brief post why every trinitarian will
die in their sins and spend eternity in a devils' hell. I do
this not to condemn souls, because the trinitarian is
condemned already, but to warn of the fires of hell.
Jude 1:23 And others save with fear, pulling them out of the
fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.
2 Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of
season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and
doctrine.
Remission of sins is essential for sinful humanity to be
"sin free". The word "salvation" means free from sin.
In Acts 2:38 we see that sins are remitted (washed away) by
Jesus name baptism. Now the trinitarian is not really
worshipping the Jesus of the Bible, so they see no need to be
baptised in Jesus name (even though the Bible clearly commands
it). They think that their three gods need three separate
"titles" in baptism.
Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized
every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of
sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children,
and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God
shall call.
This is because Jesus is the Great "I AM" of the Bible.
His name is the ONLY saving name.
Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is
none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be
saved.
So, you see, trinity preachers like the filthy devil Lance S Ferm
really are deceiving people into hell. I don't just say that to
be mean, but rather in the service of truth.
Both of the following statements were spoken by the same person:
Exo 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said,
Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent
me unto you.
John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily , verily, I say unto
you, Before Abraham was, I am.
Now the false christian scum like Lance S. Ferm will not accept
that Jesus is "I AM". They "don't believe". They are
"non-believers". That is why Jesus said that those who would not
accept that He really was the "I AM" would die in their sins.
1. Those who do not see Jesus as "I AM" see no need to be
baptised in the name of Jesus.
John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your
sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your
sins.
2. Sins are remitted by Jesus name baptism.
Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized,
and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
3. Those who don't believe in Jesus will refuse Jesus name
baptism and will die with their sins UN-REMITTED.
1 Timothy 5:24 Some men’s sins are open beforehand, going before
to judgment; and some men they follow after.
That is why Jesus said:
John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your
sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your
sins.
Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but
he that believeth not shall be damned.
John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except
a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into
the kingdom of God.
Sins are washed away by Jesus name baptism. That is why the
Bible commands it, so you can "put on Christ".
Gal 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ
have put on Christ.
Trinitarians are deceived by their filthy preachers into refusing
to "put on Christ".
Mat 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call
his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.
Acts 19:4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism
of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe
on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
Acts 19:5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name
of the Lord Jesus.

What did the people do immediately when Paul told them
to believe on Jesus?
Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized,
and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
Acts 8:34 And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee,
of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other
man?
35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same
scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.
36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain
water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder
me to be baptized?
37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou
mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is
the Son of God.
38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went
down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he
baptized him.
39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of
the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and
he went on his way rejoicing.
Notice how the eunuch understood that believing on Jesus included
being baptised. You now have several examples from the Word of
God where hearers of the Word of God knew that belief in Jesus
included baptism.
Acts 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized:
and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand
souls.
Even on the day of Pentecost, on the birthday of the New
Testament Church, there were 3000 baptised in Jesus Name. Those
that receive the Word of God get baptised.
Look back just two verses and see that Peter preached Jesus Name
baptism.
Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized
every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of
sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and
to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall
call.
Pastor sTeve Winter
--
Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal /*/ PreRapture Ministry
http://www.pentecostal.biz for Bible studies (text and audio)
Have you obeyed Acts 2:38 as Paul taught in Acts 19:4-6?
Email
to let them know how you feel about
their blatant religious discrimination against www.prerapture.org
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Trinitarians are saved! 20 Nov 2003 09:13:21 AM
Hello Pastor Winter JNAHC <steveNONO-SPAM@prime.org>,
you posted in alt.religion.christian.pentecostal :

"Lance S. Ferm" <lsferm@earthlink.net> spake thusly and wrote:

John 15:26 "But when the Helper comes, whom I shall send to you from the
Father, the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify of
Me."


It is good when false-christian scum like Lance S. Ferm post
scriptures that they believe justify their polytheism, but really
they are just ignorantly affirming their polytheism.

<snipped all of the rest of your post which you based upon what you
KNOW is a lie>
You KNOW we Trinitarians are NOT polytheists; we have corrected you
over and over in the many years you have been slandering us on the
net. Yet you LIE about us hatefully over and over again
You should REPENT and come to Jesus Christ, steve. Only HE can save
you!
in the Name of Jesus,
Christian
.
User: "Pastor Winter JNAHC"

Title: Re: Trinitarians are saved! 20 Nov 2003 01:24:39 PM
spake thusly and wrote:


You KNOW we Trinitarians are NOT polytheists; we have corrected you
over and over in the many years you have been slandering us on the
net. Yet you LIE about us hatefully over and over again

You are a lying false-christian scum. You slime claim to be
monotheistic even as you start your lengthy discourses in your
efforts to justify your polytheism.
Whether Satan's servants call their polytheistic philosophies
"trinitarianism", "triunity", or whatever smokescreen or
deception..
Whether they philosophize about pies being sliced or apples being
diced...
The bottom line is that they REJECT Jesus name baptism for the
remission of sins as preached and practiced by the Apostles and
ALL real Christians since then.
Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized,
and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
Jesus name baptism remits sins!
Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized
every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of
sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children,
and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God
shall call.
Those that really receive the Word of God are baptized in Jesus
name.
Acts 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were
baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three
thousand souls.
We have all of these proofs that the Apostles baptised using the
Name of Jesus. It astounds me how these trinity preachers can
deceive souls into believing that their filthy false preacher
knows more than the Apostles!
Acts 8:12 But when they believed Philip preaching the things
concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they
were baptized, both men and women.
Acts 8:16 (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they
were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)
Acts 10:47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be
baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
Acts 10:48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of
the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.
Acts 19:3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye
baptized? And they said, Unto John’s baptism.
Acts 19:4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism
of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe
on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
Paul told them to believe on Jesus and what did they immediately
understand that meant?
Acts 19:5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name
of the Lord Jesus.
Romans 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into
Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
Paul taught baptism in Jesus Name, but he found that he should
let the local preachers do the baptizing. They were not
baptised in the name of Paul, but rather, in the Name of Jesus.
But we can gain insight from this that a singular NAME was used
in baptism.
1 Corinthians 1:13 Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for
you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?
1 Corinthians 1:14 I thank God that I baptized none of you, but
Crispus and Gaius;
1 Corinthians 1:15 Lest any should say that I had baptized in
mine own name.
1 Corinthians 1:16 And I baptized also the household of
Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other.
The Bible is so clear in it's warning against trinitarianism.
Col 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and
vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of
the world, and not after Christ.
Col 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead
bodily.
Col 2:10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all
principality and power:
Trinitarian filth like to publish page after page of their
garbage polytheistic philosophies.
Guess what? Satanic trinitarian preachers do not want you to put
on Christ by being baptized in Jesus NAME!
Gal 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ
have put on Christ.
Why do Satanic preachers want you to reject the name of Jesus in
baptism?
Well....
2 Cor 11:13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers,
transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
2 Cor 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed
into an angel of light.
2 Cor 11:15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers
also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end
shall be according to their works.
2 Tim 3:13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse,
deceiving, and being deceived.
Pastor sTeve Winter
--
Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal /*/ PreRapture Ministry
http://www.pentecostal.biz for Bible studies (text and audio)
Have you obeyed Acts 2:38 as Paul taught in Acts 19:4-6?
Email
to let them know how you feel about
their blatant religious discrimination against www.prerapture.org
.


User: "Hans"

Title: Re: Trinitarians are saved! 26 Dec 2003 04:23:54 PM
"Pastor" Steve's vile language and behavior speaks volumes. Jesus Himself
said this would be the case:
Luk 6:45 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth
that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart
bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his
mouth speaketh.
Everyone knows what "Pastor" Steve's heart contains. His postings and
rantings build up absolutely nothing and edify no one. He is only here to
destroy, like his father:
Joh 10:10 The thief (Satan) cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and
to destroy: I (Jesus) am come that they might have life, and that they might
have it more abundantly.
I ask; to whom has "Pastor" Steve's words imparted life and encouragement?
Is there ANYONE on this NG who can stand up now and be counted in defense of
"Pastor" Steve?
Mr. Winter, you simply bear rotten fruit (and the buzzards are flying
about). This, per Jesus' words, indicates to me and most of us in the Lord,
that you are not regenerate. Come to Christ and live. This requires
denying self, taking up your cross, and following Jesus.
I know, I know... I'm filthy scum dirt-clod yadda yadda yadda... Funny
thing is is that this is true! I know in me, that is in my flesh, nothing
good dwells (Romans 7:18). Praise God and the Lord Jesus Christ for making
me new. To Him be glory both now and forever!
"Pastor Winter JNAHC" <steveNONO-SPAM@prime.org> wrote in message
news:kmvirvkltjtqsp8t49kr4340336ongduc5@4ax.com...

"Lance S. Ferm" <lsferm@earthlink.net> spake thusly and wrote:

John 15:26 "But when the Helper comes, whom I shall send to you from the
Father, the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify

of

Me."


It is good when false-christian scum like Lance S. Ferm post
scriptures that they believe justify their polytheism, but really
they are just ignorantly affirming their polytheism. It seems
that all the accursed little devil can muster is an occasional
out of context scripture that he feels justifies his rejection of
Biblical salvation.

The best defense against deceiving false-christian scum like
Lance Ferm is simply education and information, so let's have
another real Bible study.

Trinitarianism is, however, not merely stupid and foolish, it is
a spiritually fatal error.

I will explain in this brief post why every trinitarian will
die in their sins and spend eternity in a devils' hell. I do
this not to condemn souls, because the trinitarian is
condemned already, but to warn of the fires of hell.

Jude 1:23 And others save with fear, pulling them out of the
fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.

2 Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of
season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and
doctrine.

Remission of sins is essential for sinful humanity to be
"sin free". The word "salvation" means free from sin.

In Acts 2:38 we see that sins are remitted (washed away) by
Jesus name baptism. Now the trinitarian is not really
worshipping the Jesus of the Bible, so they see no need to be
baptised in Jesus name (even though the Bible clearly commands
it). They think that their three gods need three separate
"titles" in baptism.

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized
every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of
sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children,
and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God
shall call.

This is because Jesus is the Great "I AM" of the Bible.
His name is the ONLY saving name.

Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is
none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be
saved.

So, you see, trinity preachers like the filthy devil Lance S Ferm
really are deceiving people into hell. I don't just say that to
be mean, but rather in the service of truth.

Both of the following statements were spoken by the same person:

Exo 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said,
Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent
me unto you.

John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily , verily, I say unto
you, Before Abraham was, I am.

Now the false christian scum like Lance S. Ferm will not accept
that Jesus is "I AM". They "don't believe". They are
"non-believers". That is why Jesus said that those who would not
accept that He really was the "I AM" would die in their sins.

1. Those who do not see Jesus as "I AM" see no need to be
baptised in the name of Jesus.

John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your
sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your
sins.

2. Sins are remitted by Jesus name baptism.

Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized,
and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

3. Those who don't believe in Jesus will refuse Jesus name
baptism and will die with their sins UN-REMITTED.

1 Timothy 5:24 Some men's sins are open beforehand, going before
to judgment; and some men they follow after.

That is why Jesus said:

John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your
sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your
sins.

Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but
he that believeth not shall be damned.

John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except
a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into
the kingdom of God.

Sins are washed away by Jesus name baptism. That is why the
Bible commands it, so you can "put on Christ".

Gal 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ
have put on Christ.

Trinitarians are deceived by their filthy preachers into refusing
to "put on Christ".

Mat 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call
his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.

Acts 19:4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism
of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe
on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
Acts 19:5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name
of the Lord Jesus.

What did the people do immediately when Paul told them
to believe on Jesus?

Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized,
and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

Acts 8:34 And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee,
of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other
man?
35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same
scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.
36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain
water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder
me to be baptized?
37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou
mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is
the Son of God.
38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went
down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he
baptized him.
39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of
the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and
he went on his way rejoicing.

Notice how the eunuch understood that believing on Jesus included
being baptised. You now have several examples from the Word of
God where hearers of the Word of God knew that belief in Jesus
included baptism.

Acts 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized:
and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand
souls.

Even on the day of Pentecost, on the birthday of the New
Testament Church, there were 3000 baptised in Jesus Name. Those
that receive the Word of God get baptised.

Look back just two verses and see that Peter preached Jesus Name
baptism.

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized
every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of
sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Acts 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and
to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall
call.

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User: "Pastor Winter JNAHC"

Title: Re: Trinitarians are saved! 27 Dec 2003 12:33:37 AM
"Hans Broesicke" <hbroesicke@charter.net> spake thusly and wrote:

"Pastor" Steve's vile language and behavior speaks volumes.
Jesus Himself said this would be the case:

See my reply as:
"Hans Broesicke" <hbroesicke@charter.net> a false-christian scum
I believe that some of you folks have some serious misconceptions
about the Lord of the Bible, who was the perfect example for the
Christian. Jesus Christ and His disciples did not coddle
deceiving religious scum like "Hans Broesicke"!
I Peter 2:21 For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ
also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should
follow his steps:
I Peter 2:22 Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his
mouth:
I Peter 2:23 Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he
suffered, he threatened not; but committed [himself] to him that
judgeth righteously:
But let us also look at a particular situation that shows us the
Lord exhibiting unusual behaviour; and that is, when he
encountered false preachers, false religionists, deceivers like
the filthy false-christian scum Hans Broesicke
Matthew 23:33 [Ye] serpents, [ye] generation of vipers, how can
ye escape the damnation of hell?
Matthew 23:27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!
for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear
beautiful outward, but are within full of dead [men's] bones, and
of all uncleanness.
Looking carefully at verse 27. In our modern language "full of
dead men's bones and all uncleanliness" would roughly translate
as the modern term "scum". That tells me that if the Lord was
walking our streets today and encountered a denominal trinitarian
preacher like the filthy false-christian scum Hans Broesicke,
that He would call him/her/it "scum", "snake", "hypocrite".
"Love incarnate" didn't coddle false preachers. The Apostle Paul
instructs us should we encounter anyone preaching other than the
original Acts 2:38 message:
Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any
other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you,
let him be accursed.
(Check out Acts 19, if you have any doubts that Paul adhered to
the Acts 2:38 re-birth of WATER and SPIRIT.)
Would Jesus Christ call you and/or your preacher "scum" ? If
he's not preaching the Acts 2:38 Apostolic message, He sure
would!
I hope this helps.
Pastor Steve Winter
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User: "Pastor Winter JNAHC"

Title: "Hans Broesicke" a false-christian scum 27 Dec 2003 12:32:12 AM
"Hans" <nospam@anonydomain.com> spake thusly and wrote:

"Pastor" Steve's vile language and behavior speaks volumes.
Jesus Himself said this would be the case:

I believe that some of you folks have some serious misconceptions
about the Lord of the Bible, who was the perfect example for the
Christian..
I Peter 2:21 For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ
also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should
follow his steps:
I Peter 2:22 Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his
mouth:
I Peter 2:23 Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he
suffered, he threatened not; but committed [himself] to him that
judgeth righteously:
But let us also look at a particular situation that shows us the
Lord exhibiting unusual behaviour; and that is, when he
encountered false preachers, false religionists, deceivers like
the filthy false-christian scum Hans Broesicke
Matthew 23:33 [Ye] serpents, [ye] generation of vipers, how can
ye escape the damnation of hell?
Matthew 23:27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!
for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear
beautiful outward, but are within full of dead [men's] bones, and
of all uncleanness.
Looking carefully at verse 27. In our modern language "full of
dead men's bones and all uncleanliness" would roughly translate
as the modern term "scum". That tells me that if the Lord was
walking our streets today and encountered a denominal trinitarian
preacher like the filthy false-christian scum Hans Broesicke,
that He would call him/her/it "scum", "snake", "hypocrite".
"Love incarnate" didn't coddle false preachers. The Apostle Paul
instructs us should we encounter anyone preaching other than the
original Acts 2:38 message:
Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any
other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you,
let him be accursed.
(Check out Acts 19, if you have any doubts that Paul adhered to
the Acts 2:38 re-birth of WATER and SPIRIT.)
Would Jesus Christ call you and/or your preacher "scum" ? If
he's not preaching the Acts 2:38 Apostolic message, He sure
would!
I hope this helps.
Pastor Steve Winter
--
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User: "brian"

Title: Re: Trinitarians are saved! 26 Dec 2003 09:06:10 PM
"Hans" <nospam@anonydomain.com> wrote in message
news:vupd33e4l2tn6b@corp.supernews.com...

"Pastor" Steve's vile language and behavior speaks volumes. Jesus Himself
said this would be the case:

Luk 6:45 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth
that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart
bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his
mouth speaketh.

Everyone knows what "Pastor" Steve's heart contains. His postings and
rantings build up absolutely nothing and edify no one. He is only here to
destroy, like his father:

Joh 10:10 The thief (Satan) cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill,

and

to destroy: I (Jesus) am come that they might have life, and that they

might

have it more abundantly.

I ask; to whom has "Pastor" Steve's words imparted life and encouragement?
Is there ANYONE on this NG who can stand up now and be counted in defense

of

"Pastor" Steve?

Mr. Winter, you simply bear rotten fruit (and the buzzards are flying
about). This, per Jesus' words, indicates to me and most of us in the

Lord,

that you are not regenerate. Come to Christ and live. This requires
denying self, taking up your cross, and following Jesus.

I know, I know... I'm filthy scum dirt-clod yadda yadda yadda... Funny
thing is is that this is true! I know in me, that is in my flesh, nothing
good dwells (Romans 7:18). Praise God and the Lord Jesus Christ for

making

me new. To Him be glory both now and forever!

You know I use to really want to follow that Jesus, I then learned that it
is totally iirelevant.


"Pastor Winter JNAHC" <steveNONO-SPAM@prime.org> wrote in message
news:kmvirvkltjtqsp8t49kr4340336ongduc5@4ax.com...

"Lance S. Ferm" <lsferm@earthlink.net> spake thusly and wrote:

John 15:26 "But when the Helper comes, whom I shall send to you from

the

Father, the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will

testify

of

Me."


It is good when false-christian scum like Lance S. Ferm post
scriptures that they believe justify their polytheism, but really
they are just ignorantly affirming their polytheism. It seems
that all the accursed little devil can muster is an occasional
out of context scripture that he feels justifies his rejection of
Biblical salvation.

The best defense against deceiving false-christian scum like
Lance Ferm is simply education and information, so let's have
another real Bible study.

Trinitarianism is, however, not merely stupid and foolish, it is
a spiritually fatal error.

I will explain in this brief post why every trinitarian will
die in their sins and spend eternity in a devils' hell. I do
this not to condemn souls, because the trinitarian is
condemned already, but to warn of the fires of hell.

Jude 1:23 And others save with fear, pulling them out of the
fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.

2 Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of
season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and
doctrine.

Remission of sins is essential for sinful humanity to be
"sin free". The word "salvation" means free from sin.

In Acts 2:38 we see that sins are remitted (washed away) by
Jesus name baptism. Now the trinitarian is not really
worshipping the Jesus of the Bible, so they see no need to be
baptised in Jesus name (even though the Bible clearly commands
it). They think that their three gods need three separate
"titles" in baptism.

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized
every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of
sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children,
and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God
shall call.

This is because Jesus is the Great "I AM" of the Bible.
His name is the ONLY saving name.

Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is
none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be
saved.

So, you see, trinity preachers like the filthy devil Lance S Ferm
really are deceiving people into hell. I don't just say that to
be mean, but rather in the service of truth.

Both of the following statements were spoken by the same person:

Exo 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said,
Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent
me unto you.

John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily , verily, I say unto
you, Before Abraham was, I am.

Now the false christian scum like Lance S. Ferm will not accept
that Jesus is "I AM". They "don't believe". They are
"non-believers". That is why Jesus said that those who would not
accept that He really was the "I AM" would die in their sins.

1. Those who do not see Jesus as "I AM" see no need to be
baptised in the name of Jesus.

John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your
sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your
sins.

2. Sins are remitted by Jesus name baptism.

Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized,
and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

3. Those who don't believe in Jesus will refuse Jesus name
baptism and will die with their sins UN-REMITTED.

1 Timothy 5:24 Some men's sins are open beforehand, going before
to judgment; and some men they follow after.

That is why Jesus said:

John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your
sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your
sins.

Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but
he that believeth not shall be damned.

John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except
a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into
the kingdom of God.

Sins are washed away by Jesus name baptism. That is why the
Bible commands it, so you can "put on Christ".

Gal 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ
have put on Christ.

Trinitarians are deceived by their filthy preachers into refusing
to "put on Christ".

Mat 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call
his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.

Acts 19:4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism
of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe
on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
Acts 19:5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name
of the Lord Jesus.

What did the people do immediately when Paul told them
to believe on Jesus?

Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized,
and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

Acts 8:34 And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee,
of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other
man?
35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same
scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.
36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain
water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder
me to be baptized?
37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou
mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is
the Son of God.
38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went
down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he
baptized him.
39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of
the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and
he went on his way rejoicing.

Notice how the eunuch understood that believing on Jesus included
being baptised. You now have several examples from the Word of
God where hearers of the Word of God knew that belief in Jesus
included baptism.

Acts 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized:
and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand
souls.

Even on the day of Pentecost, on the birthday of the New
Testament Church, there were 3000 baptised in Jesus Name. Those
that receive the Word of God get baptised.

Look back just two verses and see that Peter preached Jesus Name
baptism.

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized
every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of
sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Acts 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and
to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall
call.

Pastor sTeve Winter
--
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http://www.pentecostal.biz for Bible studies (text and audio)
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User: "Libertarius"

Title: Re: Trinitarians are saved! 26 Dec 2003 07:26:50 PM
FROM WHAT?
Having to think?
.


User: "Aaron Swanson"

Title: Re: Trinitarians are saved! 26 Dec 2003 04:45:56 PM

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User: "Lance S. Ferm"

Title: Re: Trinitarians are saved! 23 Nov 2003 07:05:34 PM
Here are some more verses that heretics can't except at face value.
John 5:19 Then Jesus answered and said to them, "Most assuredly, I say to
you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, but what He sees the Father do; for
whatever He does, the Son also does in like manner.
John 5:20 "For the Father loves the Son, and shows Him all things that He
Himself does; and He will show Him greater works than these, that you may
marvel.
John 5:21 "For as the Father raises the dead and gives life to them, even
so the Son gives life to whom He will.
John 5:22 "For the Father judges no one, but has committed all judgment to
the Son,
John 5:23 "that all should honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He
who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.
http://www.truthandgrace.com/Trinitycover.htm
"Heretic Winter JNAHC" <steve@prime.org> wrote in message
news:kmvirvkltjtqsp8t49kr4340336ongduc5@4ax.com...

"Lance S. Ferm" <lsferm@earthlink.net> spake thusly and wrote:

John 15:26 "But when the Helper comes, whom I shall send to you from the
Father, the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify

of

Me."


It is good when false-christian scum like Lance S. Ferm post
scriptures that they believe justify their polytheism, but really
they are just ignorantly affirming their polytheism. It seems
that all the accursed little devil can muster is an occasional
out of context scripture that he feels justifies his rejection of
Biblical salvation.

The best defense against deceiving false-christian scum like
Lance Ferm is simply education and information, so let's have
another real Bible study.

.
User: "Pastor Winter JNAHC"

Title: Re: Trinitarians are saved! 23 Nov 2003 11:01:58 PM
"Lance S. Ferm" <lsferm@earthlink.net> spake thusly and wrote:

Here are some more verses that heretics can't except at face value.

John 5:19 Then Jesus answered and said to them, "Most assuredly, I say to
you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, but what He sees the Father do; for
whatever He does, the Son also does in like manner.
John 5:20 "For the Father loves the Son, and shows Him all things that He
Himself does; and He will show Him greater works than these, that you may
marvel.
John 5:21 "For as the Father raises the dead and gives life to them, even
so the Son gives life to whom He will.
John 5:22 "For the Father judges no one, but has committed all judgment to
the Son,
John 5:23 "that all should honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He
who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.

The ignorant false-christian scum Lance S. Ferm thinks that the
above verses support his polytheism and rejection of Jesus NAME.
Trying to explain spiritual truths to a scum like Lance Ferm
would be like trying to explain diamonds to a dog, or pearls
to a pig, but for the rest of you I publish the following:
In this post I will attempt to explain how the son could pray to
the father and still not be two separate gods (or persons). The
key to understanding this is understanding "flesh" and "spirit":
Here, we see that God the Father of the old testament does NOT
have flesh and bone (so consider also "The Right Hand" does not
mean a big ole arm)..See, God is a Spirit and a spirit hath NOT
flesh and bone.
Luke 24:39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself:
handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye
see me have.
John 4:24 God [is] a Spirit: and they that worship him must
worship [him] in spirit and in truth....
Also notice the importance of TRUTH in worshiping God, We MUST
know WHO we are worshipping! God of the old testament came to
earth in human form, he did NOT have blood to shed for anyone;
sooooo he took on a human body and came to his people:......
John 1:11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
II Corinthians 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling
the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them;
and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
In other words God came in the form of Christ, not a "second
person" or "Jehovah Jr.", but God HIMSELF in a human body..the
Lord of Glory himself....
I Corinthians 2:8 Which none of the princes of this world knew:
for had they known [it], they would not have crucified the Lord
of glory.
God did not send anyone else to "do the dirty work"; HE CAME
HIMSELF and took on a life and then gave up that life for us!!
I John 3:16 Hereby perceive we the love [of God], because he laid
down his life for us...."
God himself in a human body, but even then the Spirit of God was
greater than the flesh of God..even God had to keep his flesh in
subjection to his Spirit..It was not the flesh body of God that
did the miracles, but rather the Spirit that was in the
body...and, in the garden it was flesh praying to Spirit (not one
god praying to another as filth like Lance Ferm would have you
to believe.)
John 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the
Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of
myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
John 5:37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne
witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor
seen his shape.
(The Father IN the son=The Spirit in the flesh)
Matthew 13:17 {For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and
righteous [men] have desired to see [those things] which ye see,
and have not seen [them]; and to hear [those things] which ye
hear, and have not heard [them].}
Matthew 17:5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud
overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which
said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye
him.
Mark 1:11 And there came a voice from heaven, [saying], Thou art
my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
II Peter 1:17 For he received from God the Father honour and
glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent
glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
(Notice "IN WHOM" in each verse, the Father (spirit) was IN the
son (flesh)).
John 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with
you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me
hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou [then], Shew us the
Father?
John 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the
Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of
myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the
works.....
Jesus Christ, Jehovah God in the flesh....Why is this so
important?!?
Mark 12:29 And Jesus answered him, {The first of all the
commandments [is], Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:}
Not three lords, not "three separate persons", ONE GOD:
JESUS!!.....
Pastor sTeve Winter
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User: "penitent leper"

Title: Re: Trinitarians are saved! 23 Nov 2003 10:24:35 PM
On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 01:05:34 GMT, "Trinitarian Goon Lance S. Ferm"
<lsferm@earthlink.net> wrote:

Here are some more verses that heretics can't except at face value.

Coming from a trinitarian heretic, that's almost funny. But let's
see about that...

John 5:19 Then Jesus answered and said to them, "Most assuredly, I say to
you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, but what He sees the Father do; for
whatever He does, the Son also does in like manner.

A total acknowledgement by Jesus that he is not God, since Jesus
cannot do anything of himself, but only in imitation (what he sees the
Father do) of the Father.
Thanks for the excellent anti-trinitarian quote!

John 5:20 "For the Father loves the Son, and shows Him all things that He
Himself does; and He will show Him greater works than these, that you may
marvel.

Yes, God loves the mortal human being whom he calls Son, and shows
him all things that God Himself does. A clear case of God instructing
(showing him all things the Father does) a mortal human being. If
Jesus was God, he would already know everything and therefore require
no instruction.
Thanks for another excellent anti-trinitarian quote!

John 5:21 "For as the Father raises the dead and gives life to them, even
so the Son gives life to whom He will.

Yes, indeedy - "AS" the Father does, so does the son, for the mortal
human son has been so designated in authority by the Father.
You keep proving from scripture that the NT is anti-trinitarian -
keep up the great work!

John 5:22 "For the Father judges no one, but has committed all judgment to
the Son,

Right-tee-o! The Father has COMMITTED (given over) all judgment to
the Son because judgment does not belong by nature to the son who is
human and mortal and therefore needs to be GRANTED judging authority
by God.
Really, these quotes are so wonderfully anti-trinitarian, I'm going
to add them to my already voluminous list of anti-trinitarian
scriptures!

John 5:23 "that all should honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He
who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.

So true. By honoring the king's agent, one honors the king who sent
him. No trinitarianism there at all.
But it's another fantastic anti-trinitarian quote - thank you!
Ya know, for being a lunatic trinitarian heretic, you've got all the
right scriptures to disprove the antichrist doctrine of the trinity.
They're all keepers!
SNIP useless Steve Winter rant/counter-rant.
- pl -
.


User: "Mark Fox"

Title: Re: Trinitarians are saved! 29 Nov 2003 08:14:32 AM
Pastor Winter JNAHC <steveNONO-SPAM@prime.org> wrote

"Lance S. Ferm" <lsferm@earthlink.net>wrote:

John 15:26 "But when the Helper comes, whom I shall send to you from the
Father, the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify of
Me."


The best defense against deceiving false-christian scum like
Lance Ferm is simply education and information, so let's have
another real Bible study.

Trinitarianism is, however, not merely stupid and foolish, it is
a spiritually fatal error.

I will explain in this brief post why every trinitarian will
die in their sins and spend eternity in a devils' hell. I do
this not to condemn souls, because the trinitarian is
condemned already, but to warn of the fires of hell.

Pastor sTeve Winter

Jesus' instruction to us are so clear, yet instead of opening your
heart to those instructions you sit and argue about minutia like a
modern day sadducee. You seem as two fleas arguing over who owns the
dog on which they are riding. Your methods are clearly intended to
gather power and prestige for yourself in this world and not to honor
God. Eventhough your interpretation of the Bible is correct you are
not yet saved, as you clearly have not understood the significance of
God's word. I admonish you, before its too late, tell the world of how
God's word has saved you. Don't waste valuable time bickering over
details as you take it upon yourself to decide who is God and who is
saved.
.
User: "Pastor Winter JNAHC"

Title: Re: Trinitarians are saved! 29 Nov 2003 06:50:11 PM
(Mark Fox) spake thusly and wrote:

Don't waste valuable time bickering over
details as you take it upon yourself to decide who is God and who is
saved.

Scum, dirt false-christian scum, Mark Fox; I publish the
following not for you so as not to cast pearls before a swine,
but for the sake of any honest readers here, I reply.
The devil and his filthy slime like Mark Fox want you to join
them in hell. They want you to disregard the importance of
knowing God or even knowing WHO He is.
The best defense against filth like Mark Fox is simply education
and information.
1 Corinthians 2:8 Which none of the princes of this world knew:
for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of
glory.
It was none other than the Lord of Glory, Jehovah Himself, on the
cross.
Isaiah 48:11 For mine own sake, even for mine own sake, will I
do it: for how should my name be polluted? and I will not give my
glory unto another.
God said that He would not give His Glory to another. That
really was Him, in the flesh, on the cross.
1 John 3:16 Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid
down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the
brethren.
Acts 22:6 And it came to pass, that, as I made my journey, and
was come nigh unto Damascus about noon, suddenly there shone from
heaven a great light round about me.
Acts 22:7 And I fell unto the ground, and heard a voice saying
unto me, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?
Acts 22:8 And I answered, Who art thou, Lord? And he said unto
me, I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom thou persecutest.
* Notice that the Lord in heaven claimed to be Jesus of Nazareth!
None other than the Lord Jesus Christ. *
Acts 22:9 And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and
were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to
me.
Acts 22:10 And I said, What shall I do, Lord? And the Lord said
unto me, Arise, and go into Damascus; and there it shall be told
thee of all things which are appointed for thee to do.
* Notice that the Lord (Jesus Christ) spoke to Paul/Saul. *
Acts 22:11 And when I could not see for the glory of that light,
being led by the hand of them that were with me, I came into
Damascus.
Acts 22:12 And one Ananias, a devout man according to the law,
having a good report of all the Jews which dwelt [there],
Acts 22:13 Came unto me, and stood, and said unto me, Brother
Saul, receive thy sight. And the same hour I looked up upon him.
Acts 22:14 And he said, The God of our fathers hath chosen thee,
that thou shouldest know his will, and see that Just One, and
shouldest hear the voice of his mouth.
NOW NOTICE CAREFULLY PLEASE! He said that it was the "God of our
Fathers" that had chosen him, but we just read that it was "Jesus
Christ" that chose him. JESUS CHRIST is the God of Abraham,
Issac and Jacob.
Acts 22:15 For thou shalt be his witness unto all men of what
thou hast seen and heard.
Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and
wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
Also, notice, that just a few verses earlier that the "Lord" had
declared His name to be "Jesus of Nazareth".
Jesus Christ is NOT the "second person" in a Roman imaginary "god
squad". Jesus Christ is the "Everlasting Father".
Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given:
and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall
be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting
Father, The Prince of Peace.
Jesus Christ is the "Mighty God", He is NOT the "second person"
of the catholic trinity, as Satan and his preachers would have
you to believe.
What about deceiving religious scum like Mark Fox?
2 Thessalonians 1:7 And to you who are troubled rest with us,
when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty
angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God,
and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the
presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
False-christian filth like Mark Fox want you to discount the
importance of knowing who God is.
Pastor sTeve Winter
--
Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal /*/ PreRapture Ministry
http://www.pentecostal.biz for Bible studies (text and audio)
Have you obeyed Acts 2:38 as Paul taught in Acts 19:4-6?
Email
to let them know how you feel about
their blatant religious discrimination against www.prerapture.org
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Trinitarians are saved! 30 Nov 2003 02:19:05 PM
Hello Pastor Winter JNAHC <steveNONO-SPAM@prime.org>,
you posted in alt.religion.christian.pentecostal :

mark_fox_@yahoo.com (Mark Fox) spake thusly and wrote:

Don't waste valuable time bickering over
details as you take it upon yourself to decide who is God and who is
saved.


Scum, dirt false-christian scum, Mark Fox; I publish the
following not for you so as not to cast pearls before a swine,
but for the sake of any honest readers here, I reply.

The devil and his filthy slime like Mark Fox want you to join
them in hell. They want you to disregard the importance of
knowing God or even knowing WHO He is.

<snipped your cut-and-paste crud, stevie>
Another "scum, dirt false-christian scum," huh? Looks like everyone
is that except YOU, huh steve?
Hahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
You are pathetic, steve.
REPENT! Come to Jesus and throw away that nasty hatred you have for
God's people, steve!
In the Name of Jesus Christ,
Christian
.
User: "Pastor Winter JNAHC"

Title: Re: Trinitarians are saved! 30 Nov 2003 11:15:32 PM
spake thusly and wrote:


Another "scum, dirt false-christian scum," huh? Looks like everyone
is that except YOU, huh steve?

Hahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

You are pathetic, steve.

REPENT! Come to Jesus

No everyone is not a filthy false-christian scum like
There are many real Christians. Not
very many out here on USENET I will admit.
I am amazed at the audacity of some of the false christian scum
like
that we encounter from time to time.
Not only will they teach disobedience to the Bible, but, they
will question the salvation of the people that really believe in
only ONE God (Jesus), and DO obey Acts 2:38.
We should not forget that the Bible warned us against such like
and teaches that true Christians should NOT coddle such deceivers
as
or Mark Fox or any other Satanic
deceiver.
How did Paul deal with religious scum like
?
II Corinthians 11:12 But what I do, that I will do, that I may
cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein
they glory, they may be found even as we.
II Corinthians 11:13 For such [are] false apostles, deceitful
workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
II Corinthians 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is
transformed into an angel of light.
II Corinthians 11:15 Therefore [it is] no great thing if his
ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness;
whose end shall be according to their works.
Now common sense should make us aware that Satan is going to have
his servants like
pretending to be
"christian teachers", the difference will be that their teaching
will be to undermine the importance of knowing who Jesus is, AND
to undermine the importance of obeying His Word.
It's the same old story. God says do something, and the devil
teaches that it doesn't really matter.
God says be baptised in Jesus name; the devil's ministers like
the vile deceiver
teach that it doesn't
really matter.
Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized
every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of
sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and
to all that are afar off, [even] as many as the Lord our God
shall call.
God says that Jesus name baptism remits the sins of as many as
God will call. The religious filth will come along and say "Oh,
our glorious and wonderful god doesn't really mean that" and then
they will manufacture some emotionally titillating fable of
whatabout this or that to use to deceive souls into a comfortable
disobedience of the Bible.
II Peter 2:18 For when they speak great swelling [words] of
vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, [through
much] wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who
live in error.
II Peter 2:19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves
are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of
the same is he brought in bondage.
It is a real preachers' job to convince you to obey the Bible,
it's the false preachers job to teach you that you really don't
need to obey the Bible.
Forget the devil's fairy tales, salvation is only for the
obedient.
Hebrews 5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of
eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;
Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and
wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
Pastor sTeve Winter
--
Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal /*/ PreRapture Ministry
http://www.pentecostal.biz for Bible studies (text and audio)
Have you obeyed Acts 2:38 as Paul taught in Acts 19:4-6?
Email
to let them know how you feel about
their blatant religious discrimination against www.prerapture.org
.


User: "galia"

Title: Re: Trinitarians are saved! 29 Nov 2003 07:19:40 PM
"Pastor Winter JNAHC" <steveNONO-SPAM@prime.org> wrote in message
news:cafisv8qf0764r8fcqemfvn069t4qs3rd1@4ax.com...

mark_fox_@yahoo.com (Mark Fox) spake thusly and wrote:

Don't waste valuable time bickering over
details as you take it upon yourself to decide who is God and who is
saved.


Scum, dirt false-christian scum, Mark Fox; I publish the
following not for you so as not to cast pearls before a swine,
but for the sake of any honest readers here, I reply.

The devil and his filthy slime like Mark Fox want you to join
them in hell. They want you to disregard the importance of
knowing God or even knowing WHO He is.

The best defense against filth like Mark Fox is simply education
and information.

1 Corinthians 2:8 Which none of the princes of this world knew:
for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of
glory.

It was none other than the Lord of Glory, Jehovah Himself, on the
cross.

Isaiah 48:11 For mine own sake, even for mine own sake, will I
do it: for how should my name be polluted? and I will not give my
glory unto another.

God said that He would not give His Glory to another. That
really was Him, in the flesh, on the cross.

1 John 3:16 Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid
down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the
brethren.

Acts 22:6 And it came to pass, that, as I made my journey, and
was come nigh unto Damascus about noon, suddenly there shone from
heaven a great light round about me.

Acts 22:7 And I fell unto the ground, and heard a voice saying
unto me, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?

Acts 22:8 And I answered, Who art thou, Lord? And he said unto
me, I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom thou persecutest.

* Notice that the Lord in heaven claimed to be Jesus of Nazareth!
None other than the Lord Jesus Christ. *

Acts 22:9 And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and
were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to
me.

Acts 22:10 And I said, What shall I do, Lord? And the Lord said
unto me, Arise, and go into Damascus; and there it shall be told
thee of all things which are appointed for thee to do.

* Notice that the Lord (Jesus Christ) spoke to Paul/Saul. *

Acts 22:11 And when I could not see for the glory of that light,
being led by the hand of them that were with me, I came into
Damascus.

Acts 22:12 And one Ananias, a devout man according to the law,
having a good report of all the Jews which dwelt [there],

Acts 22:13 Came unto me, and stood, and said unto me, Brother
Saul, receive thy sight. And the same hour I looked up upon him.

Acts 22:14 And he said, The God of our fathers hath chosen thee,
that thou shouldest know his will, and see that Just One, and
shouldest hear the voice of his mouth.

NOW NOTICE CAREFULLY PLEASE! He said that it was the "God of our
Fathers" that had chosen him, but we just read that it was "Jesus
Christ" that chose him. JESUS CHRIST is the God of Abraham,
Issac and Jacob.

Acts 22:15 For thou shalt be his witness unto all men of what
thou hast seen and heard.

Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and
wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

Also, notice, that just a few verses earlier that the "Lord" had
declared His name to be "Jesus of Nazareth".

Jesus Christ is NOT the "second person" in a Roman imaginary "god
squad". Jesus Christ is the "Everlasting Father".

Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given:
and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall
be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting
Father, The Prince of Peace.

Jesus Christ is the "Mighty God", He is NOT the "second person"
of the catholic trinity, as Satan and his preachers would have
you to believe.

What about deceiving religious scum like Mark Fox?

2 Thessalonians 1:7 And to you who are troubled rest with us,
when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty
angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God,
and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the
presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

False-christian filth like Mark Fox want you to discount the
importance of knowing who God is.

Pastor sTeve Winter


You are nuts...
.



User: "Phillip Ray Holmes"

Title: Re: Trinitarians are saved! 19 Nov 2003 01:11:25 PM
Pastor Winter JNAHC <steveNONO-SPAM@prime.org> wrote in message news:<kmvirvkltjtqsp8t49kr4340336ongduc5@4ax.com>...

"Lance S. Ferm" <lsferm@earthlink.net> spake thusly and wrote:

John 15:26 "But when the Helper comes, whom I shall send to you from the
Father, the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify of
Me."


It is good when false-christian scum like Lance S. Ferm post
scriptures that they believe justify their polytheism, but really
they are just ignorantly affirming their polytheism. It seems
that all the accursed little devil can muster is an occasional
out of context scripture that he feels justifies his rejection of
Biblical salvation.

The best defense against deceiving false-christian scum like
Lance Ferm is simply education and information, so let's have
another real Bible study.

Trinitarianism is, however, not merely stupid and foolish, it is
a spiritually fatal error.

I will explain in this brief post why every trinitarian will
die in their sins and spend eternity in a devils' hell. I do
this not to condemn souls, because the trinitarian is
condemned already, but to warn of the fires of hell.

Jude 1:23 And others save with fear, pulling them out of the
fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.

2 Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of
season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and
doctrine.

Remission of sins is essential for sinful humanity to be
"sin free". The word "salvation" means free from sin.

In Acts 2:38 we see that sins are remitted (washed away) by
Jesus name baptism. Now the trinitarian is not really
worshipping the Jesus of the Bible, so they see no need to be
baptised in Jesus name (even though the Bible clearly commands
it). They think that their three gods need three separate
"titles" in baptism.

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized
every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of
sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children,
and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God
shall call.

This is because Jesus is the Great "I AM" of the Bible.
His name is the ONLY saving name.

Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is
none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be
saved.

So, you see, trinity preachers like the filthy devil Lance S Ferm
really are deceiving people into hell. I don't just say that to
be mean, but rather in the service of truth.

Both of the following statements were spoken by the same person:

Exo 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said,
Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent
me unto you.

John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily , verily, I say unto
you, Before Abraham was, I am.

Now the false christian scum like Lance S. Ferm will not accept
that Jesus is "I AM". They "don't believe". They are
"non-believers". That is why Jesus said that those who would not
accept that He really was the "I AM" would die in their sins.

1. Those who do not see Jesus as "I AM" see no need to be
baptised in the name of Jesus.

John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your
sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your
sins.

2. Sins are remitted by Jesus name baptism.

Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized,
and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

3. Those who don't believe in Jesus will refuse Jesus name
baptism and will die with their sins UN-REMITTED.

1 Timothy 5:24 Some men?s sins are open beforehand, going before
to judgment; and some men they follow after.

That is why Jesus said:

John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your
sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your
sins.

Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but
he that believeth not shall be damned.

John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except
a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into
the kingdom of God.

Sins are washed away by Jesus name baptism. That is why the
Bible commands it, so you can "put on Christ".

Gal 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ
have put on Christ.

Trinitarians are deceived by their filthy preachers into refusing
to "put on Christ".

Mat 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call
his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.

Acts 19:4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism
of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe
on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
Acts 19:5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name
of the Lord Jesus.

What did the people do immediately when Paul told them
to believe on Jesus?

Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized,
and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

Acts 8:34 And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee,
of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other
man?
35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same
scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.
36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain
water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder
me to be baptized?
37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou
mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is
the Son of God.
38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went
down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he
baptized him.
39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of
the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and
he went on his way rejoicing.

Notice how the eunuch understood that believing on Jesus included
being baptised. You now have several examples from the Word of
God where hearers of the Word of God knew that belief in Jesus
included baptism.

Acts 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized:
and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand
souls.

Even on the day of Pentecost, on the birthday of the New
Testament Church, there were 3000 baptised in Jesus Name. Those
that receive the Word of God get baptised.

Look back just two verses and see that Peter preached Jesus Name
baptism.

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized
every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of
sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Acts 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and
to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall
call.

Pastor sTeve Winter

Amen
Brother Big Steve! WOW Did I say that? Amen Steve Acts 2:38 is the only
plan of salvation given in The New Testament of The Holy Bible
Phillip Ray Holmes
1455 Keene Road
Enville, TN 38332
.
User: "penitent leper"

Title: Re: Trinitarians are saved! 19 Nov 2003 01:17:15 PM
On 19 Nov 2003 11:11:25 -0800,
(Phillip Ray Holmes)
wrote:

Pastor Winter JNAHC <steveNONO-SPAM@prime.org> wrote in message news:<kmvirvkltjtqsp8t49kr4340336ongduc5@4ax.com>...

"Lance S. Ferm" <lsferm@earthlink.net> spake thusly and wrote:

John 15:26 "But when the Helper comes, whom I shall send to you from the
Father, the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify of
Me."


It is good when false-christian scum like Lance S. Ferm post
scriptures that they believe justify their polytheism, but really
they are just ignorantly affirming their polytheism. It seems
that all the accursed little devil can muster is an occasional
out of context scripture that he feels justifies his rejection of
Biblical salvation.

The best defense against deceiving false-christian scum like
Lance Ferm is simply education and information, so let's have
another real Bible study.

Trinitarianism is, however, not merely stupid and foolish, it is
a spiritually fatal error.

I will explain in this brief post why every trinitarian will
die in their sins and spend eternity in a devils' hell. I do
this not to condemn souls, because the trinitarian is
condemned already, but to warn of the fires of hell.

Jude 1:23 And others save with fear, pulling them out of the
fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.

2 Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of
season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and
doctrine.

Remission of sins is essential for sinful humanity to be
"sin free". The word "salvation" means free from sin.

In Acts 2:38 we see that sins are remitted (washed away) by
Jesus name baptism. Now the trinitarian is not really
worshipping the Jesus of the Bible, so they see no need to be
baptised in Jesus name (even though the Bible clearly commands
it). They think that their three gods need three separate
"titles" in baptism.

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized
every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of
sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children,
and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God
shall call.

This is because Jesus is the Great "I AM" of the Bible.
His name is the ONLY saving name.

Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is
none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be
saved.

So, you see, trinity preachers like the filthy devil Lance S Ferm
really are deceiving people into hell. I don't just say that to
be mean, but rather in the service of truth.

Both of the following statements were spoken by the same person:

Exo 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said,
Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent
me unto you.

John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily , verily, I say unto
you, Before Abraham was, I am.

Now the false christian scum like Lance S. Ferm will not accept
that Jesus is "I AM". They "don't believe". They are
"non-believers". That is why Jesus said that those who would not
accept that He really was the "I AM" would die in their sins.

1. Those who do not see Jesus as "I AM" see no need to be
baptised in the name of Jesus.

John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your
sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your
sins.

2. Sins are remitted by Jesus name baptism.

Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized,
and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

3. Those who don't believe in Jesus will refuse Jesus name
baptism and will die with their sins UN-REMITTED.

1 Timothy 5:24 Some men?s sins are open beforehand, going before
to judgment; and some men they follow after.

That is why Jesus said:

John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your
sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your
sins.

Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but
he that believeth not shall be damned.

John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except
a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into
the kingdom of God.

Sins are washed away by Jesus name baptism. That is why the
Bible commands it, so you can "put on Christ".

Gal 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ
have put on Christ.

Trinitarians are deceived by their filthy preachers into refusing
to "put on Christ".

Mat 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call
his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.

Acts 19:4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism
of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe
on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
Acts 19:5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name
of the Lord Jesus.

What did the people do immediately when Paul told them
to believe on Jesus?

Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized,
and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

Acts 8:34 And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee,
of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other
man?
35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same
scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.
36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain
water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder
me to be baptized?
37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou
mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is
the Son of God.
38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went
down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he
baptized him.
39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of
the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and
he went on his way rejoicing.

Notice how the eunuch understood that believing on Jesus included
being baptised. You now have several examples from the Word of
God where hearers of the Word of God knew that belief in Jesus
included baptism.

Acts 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized:
and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand
souls.

Even on the day of Pentecost, on the birthday of the New
Testament Church, there were 3000 baptised in Jesus Name. Those
that receive the Word of God get baptised.

Look back just two verses and see that Peter preached Jesus Name
baptism.

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized
every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of
sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Acts 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and
to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall
call.

Pastor sTeve Winter


Amen
Brother Big Steve! WOW Did I say that? Amen Steve Acts 2:38 is the only
plan of salvation given in The New Testament of The Holy Bible

The NT contains no such plan of salvation.
- pl -
.