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Trying To Prove Ages in Genesis |
Reposting the original post on this topic:
If you have read Genesis, then you know that people before the flood are
reported to have lived a very long time. People with scientific backgrounds
might consider Genesis to be not true because they can't believe that people
could live that long. [Examples:
Methuselah was supposed to have lived
969 years. Noah was 500 years old before he started building the ark, and
Adam lived over 900 years. See Genesis chapter 5.]
The secret to this long life I believe is caused by higher nutrition.
The scriptural basis for believing this can be found in these verses:
Genesis 3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of
us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take
also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
Genesis 3:23 Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of
Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.
Apparently if a man could get the kind of nutrition that was in the fruit of
the tree of life in the garden of eden, then he would live forever, and this
implies that he would not get old and aging would be stopped.
In 1973, I read an article that it was discovered that vitamins slow down
aging. I was in College at the time and working on a degree in physics. I
started taking large doses of vitamins at that time to slow down my aging.
By the time I was 40, I looked like I was about 26, and it was working so
well I increased the doses to see if I could make my age go backwards. The
following are the results of my experimentation with fighting aging. Some of
this I read in scientific articles and some of it I found out for myself. I
believe that if the right nutritional supplements were found, to duplicate
the nutrition in the fruit of the tree of life, then a person could take
this and live forever without aging.
[Note: Dying is not really a requirement for New Testament Christians,
according to scripture:
1 Corinthians 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep,
but we shall all be changed,
John 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die.
Believest thou this?
John 21:22 Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what
[is that] to thee? follow thou me.
John 21:23 Then went this saying abroad among the brethren, that that
disciple should not die: yet Jesus said not unto him, He shall not die; but,
If I will that he tarry till I come, what [is that] to thee?
They had that saying because the apostles realized that it is now possible
for a Christian to live without dying.]
Vitamins A and D are toxic at high levels. You can take megadoses of C and
E. Too much C just causes diarhea as your system flushes out the excess. You
could use this as a natural laxative to keep the colon clean. Large doses of
C have very good health effects: stronger heart, slowing down aging, more
collagin for firmer skin, less colesterol build up on veins, higher immune
system to fight disease, natural antihistimine to prevent running nose,
megadosing on C is a strong viruscide to kill viruses. I don't know if very
large doses of E are toxic, however I do know that large doses can be taken
regularly and it only helps you. However, it does increase the male sex
drive subsantially, it is the virility vitamin. I don't know if there is a
limit on taking E. I have been taking 3200 iu of E per day for years and it
didn't hurt me. I use it to slow down aging which it does very well. C is
water soluble, E is soluble in oil; putting antiaging vitamins in the watery
and oil parts of my body. I am 52 years old
and I have a body like a man in his early 20s. I look about 17 on my
driver's license photo. Never had crows feet wrinkles around the eyes. I
started megadosing on vitamins to fight aging in 1973. I could be the best
in the world at fighting aging at this time. It looked like I was actually
getting younger over an eight year period, but I take huge doses of vitamins
and
calcium to accomplish this. [A, C, E, calcium, stresstabs containing the B
complex vitamins and a high protein diet to slow down aging.] Also some
selenium, bioflavinoids, magnesium, zinc, generally anything that boosts the
immune system will fight aging. I believe the immune system can be boosted
so high that it will actually heal aging and cause a person to slowly and
gradually get younger. I have seen sagging around the chin and under the
eyes go away and my nose seemed to turn up more; my hair is slowly growing
back and it got two shades darker. Young people move fast and think fast. I
practice fast moving
exercise and this has increased my speed of thinking, moving and
flexibility. Exercise will
help boost the immune system, especially in males.
[If you are going to take large doses of calcium, take the kind that does
not have vitamin D mixed with it. This will help prevent vitamin D overdose,
which could be fatal. Too much A or too much D could kill you, so you need
to be careful with those two vitamins.]
Herbs
Main immune boosting herb is echinacea. Gotu Kola causes more blood to flow
to the brain and has been proven to increase the Intelligence Quoteint IQ of
test subjects. Eyebrite causes more blood flow to the eyes and regulates
fluid pressure in the eyes preventing age related eye problems; it makes you
see more clearly too. You should also try to get about 8 hours sleep per
day, because human growth harmone needed for cell division is mostly
produced when you sleep. Immune system is highest during sleep. Lots of
water should be drunk before bed. Caffeine helps to clean the products of
cell funcion out of the blood faster by increasing kidney funcion. [The
vitamins clean the cells faster and the caffeine cleans the cell wastes out
of the blood faster. Clean cells do not slow down the rate of the cell
divisions, so you don't get old.] [Aging is caused by background radiation
acting on oxidation products in the cells and changing them to free
radicals. Free radical damage causes cell divisions to slow down; this
causes aging. Antioxidant vitamins, megadoses, can clean the oxidation
products out of the cell so fast that the cell divisions don't slow down,
and hence, no aging.] Do you understand what I am trying to say?
[Side effects of taking all of this are easily controlled. If you get
diarhea or if your sinuses
become too stopped up, then stop taking the vitamin C for a couple of days.
If you get a headache,
then don’t take any vitamin A, that day. Use a half cup of milk with baking
soda in it to
nutralize stomach acid if your stomach gets too acid from the caffeine and
the vitamin C.]
These are results of over 31 years of my personal research, my own body
being the object for testing on.
Read the book of Genesis in the Bible. Methuselah was supposed to have lived
969 years. Noah was 500 years old before he started building the ark. I
suspect they may have been processing vitamins out of foods, something that
modern science only rediscovered in the last 150 years; megadosing on
vitamins only started around 1969 with Linus Pauling.
In the legend of Atlantis, which I think might be about the advanced
civilization before the flood (circa 15000 ago and earlier), it is said by
the Greek philosopher Plato, that the Atlanteans distilled the essence of
fruits, and lived a long time. This looks to me a lot like processing
vitamins from the foods. Also the way that Atlantis was destroyed by sinking
into the sea, might be a race memory of Noah's flood, destroying this
advanced civilization. I speculate that the story of the civilization before
the flood was retold many times since the time of Noah's children and the
story got changed with the retelling of it, and it may have become the
legend of Atlantis, but there is still a core of truth to it. Around the
world there are very ancient stone structures made with stones that weigh
many tons, and set to within a small fraction of an inch. These ancient
structures are real evidence that an advanced civilization did live on the
Earth at one time, but it perished for some reason. Modern engineers will
tell you that they could not build such structures today using modern
technology.
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18 Dec 2004 06:04:31 AM |
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"stone" <antiaging@ineedhits-mail.com> wrote in message
news:41c35a5b_2@news1.uncensored-news.com...
Reposting the original post on this topic:
If you have read Genesis, then you know that people before the flood are
reported to have lived a very long time. People with scientific
backgrounds
might consider Genesis to be not true because they can't believe that
people
could live that long. [Examples:
Methuselah was supposed to have lived
969 years. Noah was 500 years old before he started building the ark, and
Adam lived over 900 years. See Genesis chapter 5.]
How about knowing that this is nothing mroe than ancient fables and fairy
tales?
The secret to this long life I believe is caused by higher nutrition.
The scriptural basis for believing this can be found in these verses:
Genesis 3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of
us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take
also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
Genesis 3:23 Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of
Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.
There are many people, now, who practice good nutrition - and that doesn't
allow ANY of them to live those long lives.
Apparently if a man could get the kind of nutrition that was in the fruit
of
the tree of life in the garden of eden, then he would live forever, and
this
implies that he would not get old and aging would be stopped.
In 1973, I read an article that it was discovered that vitamins slow down
aging. I was in College at the time and working on a degree in physics. I
started taking large doses of vitamins at that time to slow down my aging.
By the time I was 40, I looked like I was about 26, and it was working so
well I increased the doses to see if I could make my age go backwards. The
following are the results of my experimentation with fighting aging. Some
of
this I read in scientific articles and some of it I found out for myself.
I
believe that if the right nutritional supplements were found, to duplicate
the nutrition in the fruit of the tree of life, then a person could take
this and live forever without aging.
[Note: Dying is not really a requirement for New Testament Christians,
according to scripture:
1 Corinthians 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep,
but we shall all be changed,
John 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die.
Believest thou this?
John 21:22 Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what
[is that] to thee? follow thou me.
John 21:23 Then went this saying abroad among the brethren, that that
disciple should not die: yet Jesus said not unto him, He shall not die;
but,
If I will that he tarry till I come, what [is that] to thee?
They had that saying because the apostles realized that it is now possible
for a Christian to live without dying.]
Using one fairy tale story to support claims from another fairy tales story
means nothing!
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| User: "stone" |
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| Title: Re: Trying To Prove Ages in Genesis |
19 Dec 2004 09:52:27 PM |
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ZenIsWhen wrote in message <10s876tc85tek12@corp.supernews.com>...
"stone" <antiaging@ineedhits-mail.com> wrote in message
news:41c35a5b_2@news1.uncensored-news.com...
Reposting the original post on this topic:
If you have read Genesis, then you know that people before the flood are
reported to have lived a very long time. People with scientific
backgrounds
might consider Genesis to be not true because they can't believe that
people
could live that long. [Examples:
Methuselah was supposed to have lived
969 years. Noah was 500 years old before he started building the ark, and
Adam lived over 900 years. See Genesis chapter 5.]
How about knowing that this is nothing mroe than ancient fables and fairy
tales?
The secret to this long life I believe is caused by higher nutrition.
The scriptural basis for believing this can be found in these verses:
Genesis 3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of
us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take
also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
Genesis 3:23 Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of
Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.
There are many people, now, who practice good nutrition - and that doesn't
allow ANY of them to live those long lives.
On TV I saw a show about aging and vitamins. There was a woman that was
megadosing like me, she was in her 50s and had a body like in her 30s. I am
not talking about just practicing good nutrition. I am talking about
megadosing (very large doses regularly) on vitamins that have been shown to
slow down aging. This sort of thing goes way beyond just good nutrition.
Apparently if a man could get the kind of nutrition that was in the fruit
of
the tree of life in the garden of eden, then he would live forever, and
this
implies that he would not get old and aging would be stopped.
In 1973, I read an article that it was discovered that vitamins slow down
aging. I was in College at the time and working on a degree in physics. I
started taking large doses of vitamins at that time to slow down my
aging.
By the time I was 40, I looked like I was about 26, and it was working so
well I increased the doses to see if I could make my age go backwards.
The
following are the results of my experimentation with fighting aging. Some
of
this I read in scientific articles and some of it I found out for myself.
I
believe that if the right nutritional supplements were found, to
duplicate
the nutrition in the fruit of the tree of life, then a person could take
this and live forever without aging.
[Note: Dying is not really a requirement for New Testament Christians,
according to scripture:
1 Corinthians 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep,
but we shall all be changed,
John 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die.
Believest thou this?
John 21:22 Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come,
what
[is that] to thee? follow thou me.
John 21:23 Then went this saying abroad among the brethren, that that
disciple should not die: yet Jesus said not unto him, He shall not die;
but,
If I will that he tarry till I come, what [is that] to thee?
They had that saying because the apostles realized that it is now
possible
for a Christian to live without dying.]
Using one fairy tale story to support claims from another fairy tales story
means nothing!
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| User: "Melchizedek" |
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| Title: Re: Trying To Prove Ages in Genesis |
18 Dec 2004 03:35:45 PM |
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"stone" <antiaging@ineedhits-mail.com> wrote in message news:41c35a5b_2@news1.uncensored-news.com...
Reposting the original post on this topic:
If you have read Genesis, then you know that people before the flood are
reported to have lived a very long time. People with scientific backgrounds
might consider Genesis to be not true because they can't believe that people
could live that long. [Examples:
Methuselah was supposed to have lived
969 years. Noah was 500 years old before he started building the ark, and
Adam lived over 900 years. See Genesis chapter 5.]
The secret to this long life I believe is caused by higher nutrition.
The scriptural basis for believing this can be found in these verses:
Genesis 3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of
us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take
also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
Genesis 3:23 Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of
Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.
Apparently if a man could get the kind of nutrition that was in the fruit of
the tree of life in the garden of eden, then he would live forever, and this
implies that he would not get old and aging would be stopped.
In 1973, I read an article that it was discovered that vitamins slow down
aging. I was in College at the time and working on a degree in physics. I
started taking large doses of vitamins at that time to slow down my aging.
By the time I was 40, I looked like I was about 26, and it was working so
well I increased the doses to see if I could make my age go backwards. The
following are the results of my experimentation with fighting aging. Some of
this I read in scientific articles and some of it I found out for myself. I
believe that if the right nutritional supplements were found, to duplicate
the nutrition in the fruit of the tree of life, then a person could take
this and live forever without aging.
[Note: Dying is not really a requirement for New Testament Christians,
according to scripture:
1 Corinthians 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep,
but we shall all be changed,
John 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die.
Believest thou this?
John 21:22 Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what
[is that] to thee? follow thou me.
John 21:23 Then went this saying abroad among the brethren, that that
disciple should not die: yet Jesus said not unto him, He shall not die; but,
If I will that he tarry till I come, what [is that] to thee?
They had that saying because the apostles realized that it is now possible
for a Christian to live without dying.]
Vitamins A and D are toxic at high levels. You can take megadoses of C and
E. Too much C just causes diarhea as your system flushes out the excess. You
could use this as a natural laxative to keep the colon clean. Large doses of
C have very good health effects: stronger heart, slowing down aging, more
collagin for firmer skin, less colesterol build up on veins, higher immune
system to fight disease, natural antihistimine to prevent running nose,
megadosing on C is a strong viruscide to kill viruses. I don't know if very
large doses of E are toxic, however I do know that large doses can be taken
regularly and it only helps you. However, it does increase the male sex
drive subsantially, it is the virility vitamin. I don't know if there is a
limit on taking E. I have been taking 3200 iu of E per day for years and it
didn't hurt me. I use it to slow down aging which it does very well. C is
water soluble, E is soluble in oil; putting antiaging vitamins in the watery
and oil parts of my body. I am 52 years old
and I have a body like a man in his early 20s. I look about 17 on my
driver's license photo. Never had crows feet wrinkles around the eyes. I
started megadosing on vitamins to fight aging in 1973. I could be the best
in the world at fighting aging at this time. It looked like I was actually
getting younger over an eight year period, but I take huge doses of vitamins
and
calcium to accomplish this. [A, C, E, calcium, stresstabs containing the B
complex vitamins and a high protein diet to slow down aging.] Also some
selenium, bioflavinoids, magnesium, zinc, generally anything that boosts the
immune system will fight aging. I believe the immune system can be boosted
so high that it will actually heal aging and cause a person to slowly and
gradually get younger. I have seen sagging around the chin and under the
eyes go away and my nose seemed to turn up more; my hair is slowly growing
back and it got two shades darker. Young people move fast and think fast. I
practice fast moving
exercise and this has increased my speed of thinking, moving and
flexibility. Exercise will
help boost the immune system, especially in males.
[If you are going to take large doses of calcium, take the kind that does
not have vitamin D mixed with it. This will help prevent vitamin D overdose,
which could be fatal. Too much A or too much D could kill you, so you need
to be careful with those two vitamins.]
Herbs
Main immune boosting herb is echinacea. Gotu Kola causes more blood to flow
to the brain and has been proven to increase the Intelligence Quoteint IQ of
test subjects. Eyebrite causes more blood flow to the eyes and regulates
fluid pressure in the eyes preventing age related eye problems; it makes you
see more clearly too. You should also try to get about 8 hours sleep per
day, because human growth harmone needed for cell division is mostly
produced when you sleep. Immune system is highest during sleep. Lots of
water should be drunk before bed. Caffeine helps to clean the products of
cell funcion out of the blood faster by increasing kidney funcion. [The
vitamins clean the cells faster and the caffeine cleans the cell wastes out
of the blood faster. Clean cells do not slow down the rate of the cell
divisions, so you don't get old.] [Aging is caused by background radiation
acting on oxidation products in the cells and changing them to free
radicals. Free radical damage causes cell divisions to slow down; this
causes aging. Antioxidant vitamins, megadoses, can clean the oxidation
products out of the cell so fast that the cell divisions don't slow down,
and hence, no aging.] Do you understand what I am trying to say?
[Side effects of taking all of this are easily controlled. If you get
diarhea or if your sinuses
become too stopped up, then stop taking the vitamin C for a couple of days.
If you get a headache,
then don't take any vitamin A, that day. Use a half cup of milk with baking
soda in it to
nutralize stomach acid if your stomach gets too acid from the caffeine and
the vitamin C.]
These are results of over 31 years of my personal research, my own body
being the object for testing on.
Read the book of Genesis in the Bible. Methuselah was supposed to have lived
969 years. Noah was 500 years old before he started building the ark. I
suspect they may have been processing vitamins out of foods, something that
modern science only rediscovered in the last 150 years; megadosing on
vitamins only started around 1969 with Linus Pauling.
In the legend of Atlantis, which I think might be about the advanced
civilization before the flood (circa 15000 ago and earlier), it is said by
the Greek philosopher Plato, that the Atlanteans distilled the essence of
fruits, and lived a long time. This looks to me a lot like processing
vitamins from the foods. Also the way that Atlantis was destroyed by sinking
into the sea, might be a race memory of Noah's flood, destroying this
advanced civilization. I speculate that the story of the civilization before
the flood was retold many times since the time of Noah's children and the
story got changed with the retelling of it, and it may have become the
legend of Atlantis, but there is still a core of truth to it. Around the
world there are very ancient stone structures made with stones that weigh
many tons, and set to within a small fraction of an inch. These ancient
structures are real evidence that an advanced civilization did live on the
Earth at one time, but it perished for some reason. Modern engineers will
tell you that they could not build such structures today using modern
technology.
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Design From a Benevolent Creator
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| User: "John Ings" |
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| Title: Re: Trying To Prove Ages in Genesis |
17 Dec 2004 06:21:52 PM |
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On 17 Dec 2004 22:14:51 GMT, "stone" <antiaging@ineedhits-mail.com>
wrote:
Reposting the original post on this topic:
Reposting the answer:
If you have read Genesis, then you know that people before the flood are
reported to have lived a very long time. People with scientific backgrounds
might consider Genesis to be not true because they can't believe that people
could live that long.
No, they consider Genesis not true because there was no flood. And the
skeletons of people who lived before the time you suppose the flood
happened indicate they had relatively short life spans. Few lived past
30 in fact.
## Reality-ometer: [\........] Hmmph! Thought so...
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18 Dec 2004 11:42:08 AM |
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On 17 Dec 2004 22:14:51 GMT, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "stone" <antiaging@ineedhits-mail.com>
pontificated:
Reposting the original post on this topic:
If you have read Genesis, then you know that people before the flood are
reported to have lived a very long time. People with scientific backgrounds
might consider Genesis to be not true because they can't believe that people
could live that long. [Examples:
Methuselah was supposed to have lived
969 years. Noah was 500 years old before he started building the ark, and
Adam lived over 900 years. See Genesis chapter 5.]
The secret to this long life I believe is caused by higher nutrition.
The scriptural basis for believing this can be found in these verses:
Also, the world was different before the Flood and we
can notice that life spans started decreasing after the
Flood.
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditation." - Psalm 119:99
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17 Dec 2004 09:31:57 PM |
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stone wrote:
Reposting the original post on this topic:
If you have read Genesis, then you know that people before the flood are
reported to have lived a very long time. People with scientific backgrounds
might consider Genesis to be not true because they can't believe that people
could live that long. [Examples:
Methuselah was supposed to have lived
969 years. Noah was 500 years old before he started building the ark, and
Adam lived over 900 years. See Genesis chapter 5.]
The secret to this long life I believe is caused by higher nutrition.
The scriptural basis for believing this can be found in these verses:
Or could it be that folks back then writing this data wanted to live a long time and therefore
made their heros do just that.
Genesis 3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of
us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take
also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
A good example of primitive fable writing
Genesis 3:23 Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of
Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.
Apparently if a man could get the kind of nutrition that was in the fruit of
the tree of life in the garden of eden, then he would live forever, and this
implies that he would not get old and aging would be stopped.
In 1973, I read an article that it was discovered that vitamins slow down
aging. I was in College at the time and working on a degree in physics. I
started taking large doses of vitamins at that time to slow down my aging.
By the time I was 40, I looked like I was about 26, and it was working so
well I increased the doses to see if I could make my age go backwards. The
following are the results of my experimentation with fighting aging. Some of
this I read in scientific articles and some of it I found out for myself. I
believe that if the right nutritional supplements were found, to duplicate
the nutrition in the fruit of the tree of life, then a person could take
this and live forever without aging.
[Note: Dying is not really a requirement for New Testament Christians,
according to scripture:
1 Corinthians 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep,
but we shall all be changed,
John 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die.
Believest thou this?
John 21:22 Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what
[is that] to thee? follow thou me.
John 21:23 Then went this saying abroad among the brethren, that that
disciple should not die: yet Jesus said not unto him, He shall not die; but,
If I will that he tarry till I come, what [is that] to thee?
They had that saying because the apostles realized that it is now possible
for a Christian to live without dying.]
Vitamins A and D are toxic at high levels. You can take megadoses of C and
E. Too much C just causes diarhea as your system flushes out the excess. You
could use this as a natural laxative to keep the colon clean. Large doses of
C have very good health effects: stronger heart, slowing down aging, more
collagin for firmer skin, less colesterol build up on veins, higher immune
system to fight disease, natural antihistimine to prevent running nose,
megadosing on C is a strong viruscide to kill viruses. I don't know if very
large doses of E are toxic, however I do know that large doses can be taken
regularly and it only helps you. However, it does increase the male sex
drive subsantially, it is the virility vitamin. I don't know if there is a
limit on taking E. I have been taking 3200 iu of E per day for years and it
didn't hurt me. I use it to slow down aging which it does very well. C is
water soluble, E is soluble in oil; putting antiaging vitamins in the watery
and oil parts of my body. I am 52 years old
and I have a body like a man in his early 20s. I look about 17 on my
driver's license photo. Never had crows feet wrinkles around the eyes. I
started megadosing on vitamins to fight aging in 1973. I could be the best
in the world at fighting aging at this time. It looked like I was actually
getting younger over an eight year period, but I take huge doses of vitamins
and
calcium to accomplish this. [A, C, E, calcium, stresstabs containing the B
complex vitamins and a high protein diet to slow down aging.] Also some
selenium, bioflavinoids, magnesium, zinc, generally anything that boosts the
immune system will fight aging. I believe the immune system can be boosted
so high that it will actually heal aging and cause a person to slowly and
gradually get younger. I have seen sagging around the chin and under the
eyes go away and my nose seemed to turn up more; my hair is slowly growing
back and it got two shades darker. Young people move fast and think fast. I
practice fast moving
exercise and this has increased my speed of thinking, moving and
flexibility. Exercise will
help boost the immune system, especially in males.
[If you are going to take large doses of calcium, take the kind that does
not have vitamin D mixed with it. This will help prevent vitamin D overdose,
which could be fatal. Too much A or too much D could kill you, so you need
to be careful with those two vitamins.]
Herbs
Main immune boosting herb is echinacea. Gotu Kola causes more blood to flow
to the brain and has been proven to increase the Intelligence Quoteint IQ of
test subjects. Eyebrite causes more blood flow to the eyes and regulates
fluid pressure in the eyes preventing age related eye problems; it makes you
see more clearly too. You should also try to get about 8 hours sleep per
day, because human growth harmone needed for cell division is mostly
produced when you sleep. Immune system is highest during sleep. Lots of
water should be drunk before bed. Caffeine helps to clean the products of
cell funcion out of the blood faster by increasing kidney funcion. [The
vitamins clean the cells faster and the caffeine cleans the cell wastes out
of the blood faster. Clean cells do not slow down the rate of the cell
divisions, so you don't get old.] [Aging is caused by background radiation
acting on oxidation products in the cells and changing them to free
radicals. Free radical damage causes cell divisions to slow down; this
causes aging. Antioxidant vitamins, megadoses, can clean the oxidation
products out of the cell so fast that the cell divisions don't slow down,
and hence, no aging.] Do you understand what I am trying to say?
[Side effects of taking all of this are easily controlled. If you get
diarhea or if your sinuses
become too stopped up, then stop taking the vitamin C for a couple of days.
If you get a headache,
then don’t take any vitamin A, that day. Use a half cup of milk with baking
soda in it to
nutralize stomach acid if your stomach gets too acid from the caffeine and
the vitamin C.]
These are results of over 31 years of my personal research, my own body
being the object for testing on.
Read the book of Genesis in the Bible. Methuselah was supposed to have lived
969 years. Noah was 500 years old before he started building the ark. I
suspect they may have been processing vitamins out of foods, something that
modern science only rediscovered in the last 150 years; megadosing on
vitamins only started around 1969 with Linus Pauling.
In the legend of Atlantis, which I think might be about the advanced
civilization before the flood (circa 15000 ago and earlier), it is said by
the Greek philosopher Plato, that the Atlanteans distilled the essence of
fruits, and lived a long time. This looks to me a lot like processing
vitamins from the foods. Also the way that Atlantis was destroyed by sinking
into the sea, might be a race memory of Noah's flood, destroying this
advanced civilization. I speculate that the story of the civilization before
the flood was retold many times since the time of Noah's children and the
story got changed with the retelling of it, and it may have become the
legend of Atlantis, but there is still a core of truth to it. Around the
world there are very ancient stone structures made with stones that weigh
many tons, and set to within a small fraction of an inch. These ancient
structures are real evidence that an advanced civilization did live on the
Earth at one time, but it perished for some reason. Modern engineers will
tell you that they could not build such structures today using modern
technology.
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18 Dec 2004 04:25:31 AM |
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stone wrote:
Reposting the original post on this topic:
=20
If you have read Genesis, then you know that people before the flood ar=
e
reported to have lived a very long time. People with scientific backgro=
unds
might consider Genesis to be not true because they can't believe that p=
eople
could live that long. [Examples:
Methuselah was supposed to have lived
969 years. Noah was 500 years old before he started building the ark, a=
nd
Adam lived over 900 years. See Genesis chapter 5.]
The secret to this long life I believe is caused by higher nutrition.
If you really read your bible you may get the answer in the first few ver=
ses
of Genesis 1.
What power did the water above have to do with protecting God's Creation
environment?
It stopped the radiation that comes from space that causes premature=20
aging in
Creatures (Created living things).
What happened to that canopy of water during the Flood of Noah's day some=
1656 years later?
In His Word,
Misty,
The scriptural basis for believing this can be found in these verses:
=20
Genesis 3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of=
us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and tak=
e
also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
Genesis 3:23 Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of
Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.
=20
Apparently if a man could get the kind of nutrition that was in the fru=
it of
the tree of life in the garden of eden, then he would live forever, and=
this
implies that he would not get old and aging would be stopped.
In 1973, I read an article that it was discovered that vitamins slow do=
wn
aging. I was in College at the time and working on a degree in physics.=
I
started taking large doses of vitamins at that time to slow down my agi=
ng.
By the time I was 40, I looked like I was about 26, and it was working =
so
well I increased the doses to see if I could make my age go backwards. =
The
following are the results of my experimentation with fighting aging. So=
me of
this I read in scientific articles and some of it I found out for mysel=
f. I
believe that if the right nutritional supplements were found, to duplic=
ate
the nutrition in the fruit of the tree of life, then a person could tak=
e
this and live forever without aging.
[Note: Dying is not really a requirement for New Testament Christians,
according to scripture:
1 Corinthians 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all slee=
p,
but we shall all be changed,
John 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die.
Believest thou this?
=20
John 21:22 Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, w=
hat
[is that] to thee? follow thou me.
John 21:23 Then went this saying abroad among the brethren, that that
disciple should not die: yet Jesus said not unto him, He shall not die;=
but,
If I will that he tarry till I come, what [is that] to thee?
They had that saying because the apostles realized that it is now possi=
ble
for a Christian to live without dying.]
=20
=20
Vitamins A and D are toxic at high levels. You can take megadoses of C =
and
E. Too much C just causes diarhea as your system flushes out the excess=
=2E You
could use this as a natural laxative to keep the colon clean. Large dos=
es of
C have very good health effects: stronger heart, slowing down aging, mo=
re
collagin for firmer skin, less colesterol build up on veins, higher imm=
une
system to fight disease, natural antihistimine to prevent running nose,=
megadosing on C is a strong viruscide to kill viruses. I don't know if =
very
large doses of E are toxic, however I do know that large doses can be t=
aken
regularly and it only helps you. However, it does increase the male sex=
drive subsantially, it is the virility vitamin. I don't know if there i=
s a
limit on taking E. I have been taking 3200 iu of E per day for years an=
d it
didn't hurt me. I use it to slow down aging which it does very well. C =
is
water soluble, E is soluble in oil; putting antiaging vitamins in the w=
atery
and oil parts of my body. I am 52 years old
and I have a body like a man in his early 20s. I look about 17 on my
driver's license photo. Never had crows feet wrinkles around the eyes. =
I
started megadosing on vitamins to fight aging in 1973. I could be the b=
est
in the world at fighting aging at this time. It looked like I was actua=
lly
getting younger over an eight year period, but I take huge doses of vit=
amins
and
calcium to accomplish this. [A, C, E, calcium, stresstabs containing th=
e B
complex vitamins and a high protein diet to slow down aging.] Also some=
selenium, bioflavinoids, magnesium, zinc, generally anything that boost=
s the
immune system will fight aging. I believe the immune system can be boos=
ted
so high that it will actually heal aging and cause a person to slowly a=
nd
gradually get younger. I have seen sagging around the chin and under th=
e
eyes go away and my nose seemed to turn up more; my hair is slowly grow=
ing
back and it got two shades darker. Young people move fast and think fas=
t. I
practice fast moving
exercise and this has increased my speed of thinking, moving and
flexibility. Exercise will
help boost the immune system, especially in males.
[If you are going to take large doses of calcium, take the kind that do=
es
not have vitamin D mixed with it. This will help prevent vitamin D over=
dose,
which could be fatal. Too much A or too much D could kill you, so you n=
eed
to be careful with those two vitamins.]
=20
Herbs
=20
Main immune boosting herb is echinacea. Gotu Kola causes more blood to =
flow
to the brain and has been proven to increase the Intelligence Quoteint =
IQ of
test subjects. Eyebrite causes more blood flow to the eyes and regulate=
s
fluid pressure in the eyes preventing age related eye problems; it make=
s you
see more clearly too. You should also try to get about 8 hours sleep pe=
r
day, because human growth harmone needed for cell division is mostly
produced when you sleep. Immune system is highest during sleep. Lots of=
water should be drunk before bed. Caffeine helps to clean the products =
of
cell funcion out of the blood faster by increasing kidney funcion. [The=
vitamins clean the cells faster and the caffeine cleans the cell wastes=
out
of the blood faster. Clean cells do not slow down the rate of the cell
divisions, so you don't get old.] [Aging is caused by background radiat=
ion
acting on oxidation products in the cells and changing them to free
radicals. Free radical damage causes cell divisions to slow down; this
causes aging. Antioxidant vitamins, megadoses, can clean the oxidation
products out of the cell so fast that the cell divisions don't slow dow=
n,
and hence, no aging.] Do you understand what I am trying to say?
[Side effects of taking all of this are easily controlled. If you get
diarhea or if your sinuses
become too stopped up, then stop taking the vitamin C for a couple of d=
ays.
If you get a headache,
then don=92t take any vitamin A, that day. Use a half cup of milk with =
baking
soda in it to
nutralize stomach acid if your stomach gets too acid from the caffeine =
and
the vitamin C.]
These are results of over 31 years of my personal research, my own body=
being the object for testing on.
=20
Read the book of Genesis in the Bible. Methuselah was supposed to have =
lived
969 years. Noah was 500 years old before he started building the ark. I=
suspect they may have been processing vitamins out of foods, something =
that
modern science only rediscovered in the last 150 years; megadosing on
vitamins only started around 1969 with Linus Pauling.
=20
In the legend of Atlantis, which I think might be about the advanced
civilization before the flood (circa 15000 ago and earlier), it is said=
by
the Greek philosopher Plato, that the Atlanteans distilled the essence =
of
fruits, and lived a long time. This looks to me a lot like processing
vitamins from the foods. Also the way that Atlantis was destroyed by si=
nking
into the sea, might be a race memory of Noah's flood, destroying this
advanced civilization. I speculate that the story of the civilization b=
efore
the flood was retold many times since the time of Noah's children and t=
he
story got changed with the retelling of it, and it may have become the
legend of Atlantis, but there is still a core of truth to it. Around th=
e
world there are very ancient stone structures made with stones that wei=
gh
many tons, and set to within a small fraction of an inch. These ancient=
structures are real evidence that an advanced civilization did live on =
the
Earth at one time, but it perished for some reason. Modern engineers wi=
ll
tell you that they could not build such structures today using modern
technology.
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| Title: Re: Trying To Prove Ages in Genesis |
19 Dec 2004 09:45:35 PM |
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Misty <""yardholler"@Nospam,charter.net> wrote in message ...
stone wrote:
Reposting the original post on this topic:
If you have read Genesis, then you know that people before the flood are
reported to have lived a very long time. People with scientific
backgrounds
might consider Genesis to be not true because they can't believe that
people
could live that long. [Examples:
Methuselah was supposed to have lived
969 years. Noah was 500 years old before he started building the ark, and
Adam lived over 900 years. See Genesis chapter 5.]
The secret to this long life I believe is caused by higher nutrition.
If you really read your bible you may get the answer in the first few verses
of Genesis 1.
What power did the water above have to do with protecting God's Creation
environment?
It stopped the radiation that comes from space that causes premature
aging in
Creatures (Created living things).
Genesis 1:7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which
[were] under the firmament from the waters which [were] above the firmament:
and it was so.
Genesis 1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the
morning were the second day.
Genesis 1:9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered
together unto one place, and let the dry [land] appear: and it was so.
If you are referring to these scriptures here:
The waters above the firmament are referring to the water that is being held
in the clouds in the form of condensed vapor droplets, and ice crystals.
There was no canopy of water up in the sky. The ancient people knew that
water was up in the sky, they could tell this everytime it rained. But that
is not a canopy of liquid water. It is a canopy of clouds. Fine water
droplets and ice crystals.
That idea you have about a canopy of water stopping radiation, that would
only be true for alpha (fast moving protons), Beta (fast moving electrons)
that would be coming from outer space. But much background radiation does
not come from space. It is generated here on the Earth by radioactive
elements, and other processes. The air in the Earth's atmosphere is already
stopping most of the radiation from space, as is the Earth's magnetic field.
[Magnetic field of the Earth tends to trap alpha and Beta at the poles
causing the Auroras at the poles.] If there was such a canopy of water it
would not stop the third form of radiation, Gamma (Strong electomagnetic
radiation that can penetrate many feet of lead) coming from space. Gamma
rays would penetrate that water canopy, and on striking an atom, it would
give its energy to an electron, and knock it off the atom, casing a beta
particle. So, there would still be beta radiation on the Earth, coming from
space, even if you had such a canopy of water. Beta radiation is capable of
penetrating every part of the human body, and so is Gamma radiation. (Alpha
only goes in at the surface.) But, like I said, background radiation is
generated here on the Earth. Only a very small percentage of it comes from
space.
In summary, your post is incorrect.
I have a bachelor of science in physics and studied this stuff a long time
ago.
What happened to that canopy of water during the Flood of Noah's day some
1656 years later?
In His Word,
Misty,
The scriptural basis for believing this can be found in these verses:
Genesis 3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of
us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take
also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
Genesis 3:23 Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of
Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.
Apparently if a man could get the kind of nutrition that was in the fruit
of
the tree of life in the garden of eden, then he would live forever, and
this
implies that he would not get old and aging would be stopped.
In 1973, I read an article that it was discovered that vitamins slow down
aging. I was in College at the time and working on a degree in physics. I
started taking large doses of vitamins at that time to slow down my aging.
By the time I was 40, I looked like I was about 26, and it was working so
well I increased the doses to see if I could make my age go backwards. The
following are the results of my experimentation with fighting aging. Some
of
this I read in scientific articles and some of it I found out for myself.
I
believe that if the right nutritional supplements were found, to duplicate
the nutrition in the fruit of the tree of life, then a person could take
this and live forever without aging.
[Note: Dying is not really a requirement for New Testament Christians,
according to scripture:
1 Corinthians 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep,
but we shall all be changed,
John 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die.
Believest thou this?
John 21:22 Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what
[is that] to thee? follow thou me.
John 21:23 Then went this saying abroad among the brethren, that that
disciple should not die: yet Jesus said not unto him, He shall not die;
but,
If I will that he tarry till I come, what [is that] to thee?
They had that saying because the apostles realized that it is now possible
for a Christian to live without dying.]
Vitamins A and D are toxic at high levels. You can take megadoses of C and
E. Too much C just causes diarhea as your system flushes out the excess.
You
could use this as a natural laxative to keep the colon clean. Large doses
of
C have very good health effects: stronger heart, slowing down aging, more
collagin for firmer skin, less colesterol build up on veins, higher immune
system to fight disease, natural antihistimine to prevent running nose,
megadosing on C is a strong viruscide to kill viruses. I don't know if
very
large doses of E are toxic, however I do know that large doses can be
taken
regularly and it only helps you. However, it does increase the male sex
drive subsantially, it is the virility vitamin. I don't know if there is a
limit on taking E. I have been taking 3200 iu of E per day for years and
it
didn't hurt me. I use it to slow down aging which it does very well. C is
water soluble, E is soluble in oil; putting antiaging vitamins in the
watery
and oil parts of my body. I am 52 years old
and I have a body like a man in his early 20s. I look about 17 on my
driver's license photo. Never had crows feet wrinkles around the eyes. I
started megadosing on vitamins to fight aging in 1973. I could be the best
in the world at fighting aging at this time. It looked like I was actually
getting younger over an eight year period, but I take huge doses of
vitamins
and
calcium to accomplish this. [A, C, E, calcium, stresstabs containing the B
complex vitamins and a high protein diet to slow down aging.] Also some
selenium, bioflavinoids, magnesium, zinc, generally anything that boosts
the
immune system will fight aging. I believe the immune system can be boosted
so high that it will actually heal aging and cause a person to slowly and
gradually get younger. I have seen sagging around the chin and under the
eyes go away and my nose seemed to turn up more; my hair is slowly growing
back and it got two shades darker. Young people move fast and think fast.
I
practice fast moving
exercise and this has increased my speed of thinking, moving and
flexibility. Exercise will
help boost the immune system, especially in males.
[If you are going to take large doses of calcium, take the kind that does
not have vitamin D mixed with it. This will help prevent vitamin D
overdose,
which could be fatal. Too much A or too much D could kill you, so you need
to be careful with those two vitamins.]
Herbs
Main immune boosting herb is echinacea. Gotu Kola causes more blood to
flow
to the brain and has been proven to increase the Intelligence Quoteint IQ
of
test subjects. Eyebrite causes more blood flow to the eyes and regulates
fluid pressure in the eyes preventing age related eye problems; it makes
you
see more clearly too. You should also try to get about 8 hours sleep per
day, because human growth harmone needed for cell division is mostly
produced when you sleep. Immune system is highest during sleep. Lots of
water should be drunk before bed. Caffeine helps to clean the products of
cell funcion out of the blood faster by increasing kidney funcion. [The
vitamins clean the cells faster and the caffeine cleans the cell wastes
out
of the blood faster. Clean cells do not slow down the rate of the cell
divisions, so you don't get old.] [Aging is caused by background radiation
acting on oxidation products in the cells and changing them to free
radicals. Free radical damage causes cell divisions to slow down; this
causes aging. Antioxidant vitamins, megadoses, can clean the oxidation
products out of the cell so fast that the cell divisions don't slow down,
and hence, no aging.] Do you understand what I am trying to say?
[Side effects of taking all of this are easily controlled. If you get
diarhea or if your sinuses
become too stopped up, then stop taking the vitamin C for a couple of
days.
If you get a headache,
then don’t take any vitamin A, that day. Use a half cup of milk with
baking
soda in it to
nutralize stomach acid if your stomach gets too acid from the caffeine and
the vitamin C.]
These are results of over 31 years of my personal research, my own body
being the object for testing on.
Read the book of Genesis in the Bible. Methuselah was supposed to have
lived
969 years. Noah was 500 years old before he started building the ark. I
suspect they may have been processing vitamins out of foods, something
that
modern science only rediscovered in the last 150 years; megadosing on
vitamins only started around 1969 with Linus Pauling.
In the legend of Atlantis, which I think might be about the advanced
civilization before the flood (circa 15000 ago and earlier), it is said by
the Greek philosopher Plato, that the Atlanteans distilled the essence of
fruits, and lived a long time. This looks to me a lot like processing
vitamins from the foods. Also the way that Atlantis was destroyed by
sinking
into the sea, might be a race memory of Noah's flood, destroying this
advanced civilization. I speculate that the story of the civilization
before
the flood was retold many times since the time of Noah's children and the
story got changed with the retelling of it, and it may have become the
legend of Atlantis, but there is still a core of truth to it. Around the
world there are very ancient stone structures made with stones that weigh
many tons, and set to within a small fraction of an inch. These ancient
structures are real evidence that an advanced civilization did live on the
Earth at one time, but it perished for some reason. Modern engineers will
tell you that they could not build such structures today using modern
technology.
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| User: "Glenn \Christian Mystic" |
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| Title: Re: Trying To Prove Ages in Genesis |
03 Feb 2005 07:19:47 PM |
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"stone" <antiaging@ineedhits-mail.com> wrote in message
news:41c64ade_5@news1.uncensored-news.com...
Misty <""yardholler"@Nospam,charter.net> wrote in message ...
stone wrote:
Reposting the original post on this topic:
If you have read Genesis, then you know that people before the flood are
reported to have lived a very long time. People with scientific
backgrounds
might consider Genesis to be not true because they can't believe that
people
could live that long. [Examples:
Methuselah was supposed to have lived
969 years. Noah was 500 years old before he started building the ark, and
Adam lived over 900 years. See Genesis chapter 5.]
The secret to this long life I believe is caused by higher nutrition.
If you really read your bible you may get the answer in the first few
verses
of Genesis 1.
What power did the water above have to do with protecting God's Creation
environment?
By the above I would guess that you never played with a magnifying glass
According to John 1 Jesus was the Word of God, and elsewhere it is stated
that He spoke to the masses only in parables, ever thought that this was
saying something about the scriptures, which are oft called "The Word of
God" ???
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| User: "John Ings" |
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| Title: Re: Trying To Prove Ages in Genesis |
20 Dec 2004 05:15:49 AM |
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On 20 Dec 2004 03:45:35 GMT, "stone" <antiaging@ineedhits-mail.com>
wrote:
I have a bachelor of science in physics and studied this stuff a long time
ago.
Yes, so you were saying stone.
So tell us, what are the first four words
of the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics?
Can't you remember?
## Shall God govern by the laws of nature,
## or priests by fictitious miracles?
John Adams
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: Trying To Prove Ages in Genesis |
20 Dec 2004 12:06:02 PM |
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On 20 Dec 2004 03:45:35 GMT, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "stone" <antiaging@ineedhits-mail.com>
pontificated:
If you really read your bible you may get the answer in the first few verses
of Genesis 1.
What power did the water above have to do with protecting God's Creation
environment?
It stopped the radiation that comes from space that causes premature
aging in Creatures (Created living things).
Genesis 1:7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which
[were] under the firmament from the waters which [were] above the firmament:
and it was so.
Genesis 1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the
morning were the second day.
Genesis 1:9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered
together unto one place, and let the dry [land] appear: and it was so.
If you are referring to these scriptures here:
The waters above the firmament are referring to the water that is being held
in the clouds in the form of condensed vapor droplets, and ice crystals.
There was no canopy of water up in the sky. The ancient people knew that
water was up in the sky, they could tell this everytime it rained. But that
is not a canopy of liquid water. It is a canopy of clouds. Fine water
droplets and ice crystals.
We have clouds now and it doesn't protect us from
aging. Also, in the beginning, there was no rain. It
hadn't rained before the Flood, so no, they wouldn't
have known by the rain.
The water above the firmament, whether ice, or vapor,
or suspended water, was not the clouds.
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditation." - Psalm 119:99
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| User: "stone" |
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| Title: Re: Trying To Prove Ages in Genesis |
20 Dec 2004 10:27:33 PM |
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Pastor Dave wrote in message ...
On 20 Dec 2004 03:45:35 GMT, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "stone" <antiaging@ineedhits-mail.com>
pontificated:
If you really read your bible you may get the answer in the first few
verses
of Genesis 1.
What power did the water above have to do with protecting God's Creation
environment?
It stopped the radiation that comes from space that causes premature
aging in Creatures (Created living things).
Genesis 1:7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which
[were] under the firmament from the waters which [were] above the
firmament:
and it was so.
Genesis 1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the
morning were the second day.
Genesis 1:9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered
together unto one place, and let the dry [land] appear: and it was so.
If you are referring to these scriptures here:
The waters above the firmament are referring to the water that is being
held
in the clouds in the form of condensed vapor droplets, and ice crystals.
There was no canopy of water up in the sky. The ancient people knew that
water was up in the sky, they could tell this everytime it rained. But
that
is not a canopy of liquid water. It is a canopy of clouds. Fine water
droplets and ice crystals.
We have clouds now and it doesn't protect us from
aging. Also, in the beginning, there was no rain. It
hadn't rained before the Flood, so no, they wouldn't
have known by the rain.
I never said that clouds or any water canopy would protect from aging. Misty
seems to think that.
There is no scripture that difinitively says that the flood is the first
time it rained. The rain for the flood is the first time that it is stated
to have rained. That is not the same thing as saying this is the first rain.
Noah apparently already knew what rain was, since God did not need to
explain it to him. Noah and many generations before him had seen rain. The m
ist was in the garden at the very beginning of creation, to water the herbs
before Adam was created. It is not stated to have lasted after that.
The water above the firmament, whether ice, or vapor,
or suspended water, was not the clouds.
Clouds are suspended water, in the form of tiny droplets and ice crystals.
If the droplets get too big, gravity will make them fall.
The only way you could have suspended water in the sky, with drops bigger
than rain or to have sheets of water, is if the laws of physics were very
different and it was a miracle.
Even if you had such a thing, as a canopy of water, in the garden at the
very beginning of creation, it certainly would not have been appropriate for
it to have continued during the many generations of people leading up to
Noah.
You are trying to say that all of those generations of people had a canopy
of water over their heads. I certainly doubt it. You seem to be
misinterpreting this. If there was such a canopy, it would interfere with
sunlight reaching the plants for there growth. The lower you go in the ocean
the darker it gets. Light is absorbed by water. Maybe a glass of it looks
transparent.
Show me a scripture that says the first time it rained was for the flood.
There isn't any.
That is the first time rain is mentioned to have happened, in the bible, but
it does not say that is the first time it rained.
There was no rain that fell to the ground; but a mist came up and watered
the whole face of the earth.
There was not any rain until it rained for 40 days and 40 night during the
Flood of Noah's boat ride.
Genesis 2:5-6
Genesis 2:5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and
every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it
to rain upon the earth, and [there was] not a man to till the ground.
Genesis 2:6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole
face of the ground.
In the garden of Eden was this mist. Don't get the idea that this mist
continued till the time of Noah. That mist is the mist used to keep the
plants alive before Adam was created. After Adam came, there was a man to
till the ground. The bible does not say when rain began. It may have begun
when Adam started tilling the ground in the garden.
God told Noah it was going to rain, without explaining to him what rain is.
Evidently Noah already knew what rain was and had seen it many times.
The way that it is written in Gen. 2:5,6, not having rain was associated
with not having a man to till the ground. After Adam was created there was a
man to till the ground, which could imply that it was raining then.
Pastor Dave Raymond
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for thy testimonies are my meditation." - Psalm 119:99
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21 Dec 2004 05:33:37 PM |
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On 21 Dec 2004 04:27:33 GMT, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "stone" <antiaging@ineedhits-mail.com>
pontificated:
If you are referring to these scriptures here:
The waters above the firmament are referring to the water that is being
held
in the clouds in the form of condensed vapor droplets, and ice crystals.
There was no canopy of water up in the sky. The ancient people knew that
water was up in the sky, they could tell this everytime it rained. But
that
is not a canopy of liquid water. It is a canopy of clouds. Fine water
droplets and ice crystals.
We have clouds now and it doesn't protect us from
aging. Also, in the beginning, there was no rain. It
hadn't rained before the Flood, so no, they wouldn't
have known by the rain.
I never said that clouds or any water canopy would protect from aging. Misty
seems to think that.
You said the water in the clouds and included clouds in
your statement. The following are your words...
<begin quote>
What power did the water above have to do with
protecting God's Creation environment?
It stopped the radiation that comes from space that
causes premature aging in Creatures (Created living
things).
There was no canopy of water up in the sky. The ancient
people knew that water was up in the sky, they could
tell this every time it rained. But that is not a
canopy of liquid water. It is a canopy of clouds. Fine
water droplets and ice crystals.
<end quote>
There is no scripture that difinitively says that the flood is the first
time it rained.
Genesis 2:5-6
5) And every plant of the field before it was in the
earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for
the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth,
and there was not a man to till the ground.
6) But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered
the whole face of the ground.
There is no Scripture to say it wasn't. It is clear
that there was a destructive event that caused the
Flood and that in the paradise God had created, rain
was not necessary. A mist came up from the ground to
water things. There is no reason to think it rained
until after the Flood, since nothing happened to change
the model of Earth until then. It is not logical to
think that it rained prior to that first event and most
of the water for the Flood did not come from the rain,
but rather, from under the top layer of the Earth. So
why mention rain at all, if rain wasn't a first time
event at that point in time?
The water above the firmament, whether ice, or vapor,
or suspended water, was not the clouds.
Clouds are suspended water, in the form of tiny droplets and ice crystals.
If the droplets get too big, gravity will make them fall.
It's not quite that simple. Clouds are actually made
up of water and ice. And this was not a protective
layer from UV rays, which is what will age us.
The only way you could have suspended water in the sky, with drops bigger
than rain or to have sheets of water, is if the laws of physics were very
different and it was a miracle.
You're assuming that it would be in the sky where
clouds are. No one is saying that. It would have been
a 7th layer to the atmosphere, above the exosphere.
Remember the number 7? Perfection, completeness. Now
there are six (technically five, but the exosphere is
divided into the ionosphere and magnetosphere), which
as any Jew will tell you, means imperfect and thus now,
look at the various climates and how fast we age.
Even if you had such a thing, as a canopy of water, in the garden at the
very beginning of creation, it certainly would not have been appropriate for
it to have continued during the many generations of people leading up to
Noah.
You are trying to say that all of those generations of people had a canopy
of water over their heads. I certainly doubt it. You seem to be
misinterpreting this. If there was such a canopy, it would interfere with
sunlight reaching the plants for there growth. The lower you go in the ocean
the darker it gets. Light is absorbed by water. Maybe a glass of it looks
transparent.
Actually, it would have created a greenhouse effect and
would have been great for plant growth and btw, water
(ice) is still found out in space.
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditation." - Psalm 119:99
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| Title: Re: Trying To Prove Ages in Genesis |
22 Dec 2004 03:55:34 PM |
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Pastor Dave wrote in message ...
On 21 Dec 2004 04:27:33 GMT, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "stone" <antiaging@ineedhits-mail.com>
pontificated:
If you are referring to these scriptures here:
The waters above the firmament are referring to the water that is being
held
in the clouds in the form of condensed vapor droplets, and ice crystals.
There was no canopy of water up in the sky. The ancient people knew that
water was up in the sky, they could tell this everytime it rained. But
that
is not a canopy of liquid water. It is a canopy of clouds. Fine water
droplets and ice crystals.
We have clouds now and it doesn't protect us from
aging. Also, in the beginning, there was no rain. It
hadn't rained before the Flood, so no, they wouldn't
have known by the rain.
I never said that clouds or any water canopy would protect from aging.
Misty
seems to think that.
You said the water in the clouds and included clouds in
your statement. The following are your words...
<begin quote>
What power did the water above have to do with
protecting God's Creation environment?
It stopped the radiation that comes from space that
causes premature aging in Creatures (Created living
things).
There was no canopy of water up in the sky. The ancient
people knew that water was up in the sky, they could
tell this every time it rained. But that is not a
canopy of liquid water. It is a canopy of clouds. Fine
water droplets and ice crystals.
<end quote>
There is no scripture that difinitively says that the flood is the first
time it rained.
Genesis 2:5-6
5) And every plant of the field before it was in the
earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for
the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth,
and there was not a man to till the ground.
6) But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered
the whole face of the ground.
There is no Scripture to say it wasn't. It is clear
that there was a destructive event that caused the
Flood and that in the paradise God had created, rain
was not necessary. A mist came up from the ground to
water things. There is no reason to think it rained
until after the Flood, since nothing happened to change
the model of Earth until then. It is not logical to
think that it rained prior to that first event and most
of the water for the Flood did not come from the rain,
but rather, from under the top layer of the Earth. So
why mention rain at all, if rain wasn't a first time
event at that point in time?
Because Misty made some uninformed statement about a canopy of water around
the Earth. That sort of thing would defy laws of science as we no them and
is highly unlikely.
God could do that miraculously, but the idea of a canopy of water throughout
all of the generations before Noah is most likely false and a
misinterpretation of scripture.
Misty brought up the false idea about the flood being the first rain.
No scripture saying it was and no scripture saying it wasn't, so not
arguement.
The water above the firmament, whether ice, or vapor,
or suspended water, was not the clouds.
Clouds are suspended water, in the form of tiny droplets and ice crystals.
If the droplets get too big, gravity will make them fall.
It's not quite that simple. Clouds are actually made
up of water and ice. And this was not a protective
layer from UV rays, which is what will age us.
UV rays only age the skin, by killing live skin cells where they multiply.
The internal organs are not aged by UV.
The only way you could have suspended water in the sky, with drops bigger
than rain or to have sheets of water, is if the laws of physics were very
different and it was a miracle.
You're assuming that it would be in the sky where
clouds are. No one is saying that. It would have been
a 7th layer to the atmosphere, above the exosphere.
Remember the number 7? Perfection, completeness. Now
there are six (technically five, but the exosphere is
divided into the ionosphere and magnetosphere), which
as any Jew will tell you, means imperfect and thus now,
look at the various climates and how fast we age.
No scriptural basis for a water canopy. Water is in the clouds and the
clouds are at the top of the sky. It was referring to the water in the
clouds.
Numerology is definitely not reliable.
Up that high it is cold, water freezes. Up that high, air pressure is so low
that water would disintegrate into single molecules and fly off into space.
You need air pressure to hold liquid water together. Low pressure on top of
mt. everest and water boils away at a much lower temperature. That high up
like you are saying, you could not have liquid water. No air pressure to
hold it together.
Even if you had such a thing, as a canopy of water, in the garden at the
very beginning of creation, it certainly would not have been appropriate
for
it to have continued during the many generations of people leading up to
Noah.
You are trying to say that all of those generations of people had a canopy
of water over their heads. I certainly doubt it. You seem to be
misinterpreting this. If there was such a canopy, it would interfere with
sunlight reaching the plants for there growth. The lower you go in the
ocean
the darker it gets. Light is absorbed by water. Maybe a glass of it looks
transparent.
Actually, it would have created a greenhouse effect and
would have been great for plant growth and btw, water
(ice) is still found out in space.
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditation." - Psalm 119:99
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| Title: Re: Trying To Prove Ages in Genesis |
22 Dec 2004 07:03:58 PM |
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On 22 Dec 2004 21:55:34 GMT, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "stone" <antiaging@ineedhits-mail.com>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote in message ...
On 21 Dec 2004 04:27:33 GMT, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "stone" <antiaging@ineedhits-mail.com>
pontificated:
If you are referring to these scriptures here:
The waters above the firmament are referring to the water that is being
held
in the clouds in the form of condensed vapor droplets, and ice crystals.
There was no canopy of water up in the sky. The ancient people knew that
water was up in the sky, they could tell this everytime it rained. But
that
is not a canopy of liquid water. It is a canopy of clouds. Fine water
droplets and ice crystals.
We have clouds now and it doesn't protect us from
aging. Also, in the beginning, there was no rain. It
hadn't rained before the Flood, so no, they wouldn't
have known by the rain.
I never said that clouds or any water canopy would protect from aging.
Misty
seems to think that.
You said the water in the clouds and included clouds in
your statement. The following are your words...
<begin quote>
What power did the water above have to do with
protecting God's Creation environment?
It stopped the radiation that comes from space that
causes premature aging in Creatures (Created living
things).
There was no canopy of water up in the sky. The ancient
people knew that water was up in the sky, they could
tell this every time it rained. But that is not a
canopy of liquid water. It is a canopy of clouds. Fine
water droplets and ice crystals.
<end quote>
There is no scripture that difinitively says that the flood is the first
time it rained.
Genesis 2:5-6
5) And every plant of the field before it was in the
earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for
the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth,
and there was not a man to till the ground.
6) But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered
the whole face of the ground.
There is no Scripture to say it wasn't. It is clear
that there was a destructive event that caused the
Flood and that in the paradise God had created, rain
was not necessary. A mist came up from the ground to
water things. There is no reason to think it rained
until after the Flood, since nothing happened to change
the model of Earth until then. It is not logical to
think that it rained prior to that first event and most
of the water for the Flood did not come from the rain,
but rather, from under the top layer of the Earth. So
why mention rain at all, if rain wasn't a first time
event at that point in time?
Because Misty made some uninformed statement about a canopy of water around
the Earth. That sort of thing would defy laws of science as we no them and
is highly unlikely.
No, it wouldn't defy any laws and there was a canopy of
water. Whether it was actual water, or ice, or vapor
is up for debate, but it was there.
God could do that miraculously, but the idea of a canopy of water throughout
all of the generations before Noah is most likely false and a
misinterpretation of scripture.
It is not a misinterpretation at all. The firmament in
Hebrew speaks of a dome.
Misty brought up the false idea about the flood being the first rain.
You claim it's false. That doesn't make it false. Why
do you think that whatever idea you come up with is
automatic truth?
No scripture saying it was and no scripture saying it wasn't, so not
arguement.
You just argued that it rained before the Flood, so
don't claim to be neutral about it.
The water above the firmament, whether ice, or vapor,
or suspended water, was not the clouds.
Clouds are suspended water, in the form of tiny droplets and ice crystals.
If the droplets get too big, gravity will make them fall.
It's not quite that simple. Clouds are actually made
up of water and ice. And this was not a protective
layer from UV rays, which is what will age us.
UV rays only age the skin, by killing live skin cells where they multiply.
The internal organs are not aged by UV.
That's where you're wrong. But that's another
discussion. Our atmosphere has a lot to do with how we
age and how we heal, etc.. There used to be more
oxygen as well.
The only way you could have suspended water in the sky, with drops bigger
than rain or to have sheets of water, is if the laws of physics were very
different and it was a miracle.
You're assuming that it would be in the sky where
clouds are. No one is saying that. It would have been
a 7th layer to the atmosphere, above the exosphere.
Remember the number 7? Perfection, completeness. Now
there are six (technically five, but the exosphere is
divided into the ionosphere and magnetosphere), which
as any Jew will tell you, means imperfect and thus now,
look at the various climates and how fast we age.
No scriptural basis for a water canopy. Water is in the clouds and the
clouds are at the top of the sky. It was referring to the water in the
clouds.
No, sorry, you're wrong. You claimed that people
didn't age quickly because of this water in the clouds
and the clouds and yet, people do age and the clouds
are still there, so your premise is false and it is
ridiculous for you to continue to try to claim it is
true. Whatever greatly slowed down aging is not there
any more, or people wouldn't be aging so fast. Do you
not see this simple logical deduction?
Numerology is definitely not reliable.
Up that high it is cold, water freezes. Up that high, air pressure is so low
that water would disintegrate into single molecules and fly off into space.
You need air pressure to hold liquid water together. Low pressure on top of
mt. everest and water boils away at a much lower temperature. That high up
like you are saying, you could not have liquid water. No air pressure to
hold it together.
Again you go off to some other world in your head.
Clouds are still there, so why are people aging, if it
was the water in the clouds that prevented it back then
and it rained back then also, which would release the
water? You're claiming everything is the same, yet it
was different for aging. How do you come to that
conclusion? And don't say the water in the clouds,
because you claimed that was already there and it's
here now and people age fast now.
Even if you had such a thing, as a canopy of water, in the garden at the
very beginning of creation, it certainly would not have been appropriate
for
it to have continued during the many generations of people leading up to
Noah.
You are trying to say that all of those generations of people had a canopy
of water over their heads. I certainly doubt it. You seem to be
misinterpreting this. If there was such a canopy, it would interfere with
sunlight reaching the plants for there growth. The lower you go in the
ocean
the darker it gets. Light is absorbed by water. Maybe a glass of it looks
transparent.
Actually, it would have created a greenhouse effect and
would have been great for plant growth and btw, water
(ice) is still found out in space.
You didn't address this point.
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditation." - Psalm 119:99
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07 Feb 2005 09:49:33 AM |
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The magnifying effect of the sun passing through that "canopy" of yours
would have melted the surface of the earth in short order...
"Pastor Dave" <newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
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On 22 Dec 2004 21:55:34 GMT, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "stone" <antiaging@ineedhits-mail.com>
pontificated:
Pastor Dave wrote in message ...
On 21 Dec 2004 04:27:33 GMT, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, "stone" <antiaging@ineedhits-mail.com>
pontificated:
If you are referring to these scriptures here:
The waters above the firmament are referring to the water that is
being
held
in the clouds in the form of condensed vapor droplets, and ice
crystals.
There was no canopy of water up in the sky. The ancient people knew
that
water was up in the sky, they could tell this everytime it rained. But
that
is not a canopy of liquid water. It is a canopy of clouds. Fine water
droplets and ice crystals.
We have clouds now and it doesn't protect us from
aging. Also, in the beginning, there was no rain. It
hadn't rained before the Flood, so no, they wouldn't
have known by the rain.
I never said that clouds or any water canopy would protect from aging.
Misty
seems to think that.
You said the water in the clouds and included clouds in
your statement. The following are your words...
<begin quote>
What power did the water above have to do with
protecting God's Creation environment?
It stopped the radiation that comes from space that
causes premature aging in Creatures (Created living
things).
There was no canopy of water up in the sky. The ancient
people knew that water was up in the sky, they could
tell this every time it rained. But that is not a
canopy of liquid water. It is a canopy of clouds. Fine
water droplets and ice crystals.
<end quote>
There is no scripture that difinitively says that the flood is the first
time it rained.
Genesis 2:5-6
5) And every plant of the field before it was in the
earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for
the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth,
and there was not a man to till the ground.
6) But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered
the whole face of the ground.
There is no Scripture to say it wasn't. It is clear
that there was a destructive event that caused the
Flood and that in the paradise God had created, rain
was not necessary. A mist came up from the ground to
water things. There is no reason to think it rained
until after the Flood, since nothing happened to change
the model of Earth until then. It is not logical to
think that it rained prior to that first event and most
of the water for the Flood did not come from the rain,
but rather, from under the top layer of the Earth. So
why mention rain at all, if rain wasn't a first time
event at that point in time?
Because Misty made some uninformed statement about a canopy of water
around
the Earth. That sort of thing would defy laws of science as we no them and
is highly unlikely.
No, it wouldn't defy any laws and there was a canopy of
water. Whether it was actual water, or ice, or vapor
is up for debate, but it was there.
God could do that miraculously, but the idea of a canopy of water
throughout
all of the generations before Noah is most likely false and a
misinterpretation of scripture.
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