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User: "St. Jack NopetheDopeofapes"
Date: 23 Jun 2007 09:52:10 AM
Object: Two Centuries of Family Values
Two Centuries of Family Values
Barbara Ehrenreich, author of a number of books pushing Marxist ideology
and articles hostile to the role of Christianity and politics, claims that
the "fear of governmental tyranny kept the Founding Fathers from
proscribing anything like 'family values.' Homosexuality was not unknown
200 years ago; nor was abortion. But these were matters, like religion,
that the founders left to individual conscience."1 This is a remarkable
assertion since the thirteen colonies that became our nation's first
thirteen states had laws on the books making sodomy a crime. In some cases
sodomy was punished by death!2 In Bowers vs. Hardwick, the court remarked:
Sodomy was a criminal offense at common law and was forbidden by the laws
of the original 13 States when they ratified the Bill of Rights. In 1868,
when the Fourteenth Amendment was ratified, all but 5 of the 37 States in
the Union had criminal sodomy laws. In fact, until 1961, all 50 States
outlawed sodomy, and today [1986], 25 States and the District of Columbia
continue to provide criminal penalties for sodomy performed in private and
between consenting adults.3
Sodomy has never been tolerated in our nation's history. The law codes of
fifty states prove it.
At a General Court Marshall, on March 10, 1778, a Lieutenant Enslin was
"tried for attempting to commit sodomy with John Monhort." He was also
tried for "Perjury in swearing to false Accounts." Enslin was "found
guilty of the charges exhibited against him, being breaches of 5th.
Article 18th. Section of the Articles of War." He was dismissed from the
service "with infamy. His Excellency the Commander in Chief [George
Washington] approve[d] the sentence and with Abhorrence and Detestation of
such infamous Crimes order[ed] Lieutt. Enslin to be drummed out of the
Camp . . . by all the Drummers and Fifers in the Army never to return."4
Ehrenreich also wants us to believe that there were no laws prohibiting
abortion until the Christian Right came along. This is nonsense. She needs
to be reminded that abortion was legalized in 1973-nearly two-hundred
years after the ratification of the Constitution. Prior to the Roe vs.
Wade decision, abortion was outlawed in all fifty states and the District
of Columbia, with exceptions only for life endangerment of the mother.5
Isn't this a perfect example of the "family values" which Ehrenreich tells
us were not legislated?
Ehrenreich and her liberal peers are determined to ignore the historical
record and to remake the founders in their own image. Both Jefferson and
Washington believed that without religion, America's civil life would be
chaotic. The legal decisions and public pronouncements of this nation
attest to this fact: the "family values" that the liberal left disdain are
rooted deeply in our heritage and are based on nothing other than
principles of God's Word.
by Gary DeMar
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1. Barbara Ehrenreich, "Why the Religious Right Is Wrong," Time (September
7, 1992), 72.
2. "Trials for sex crimes [in early Massachusetts] were occasionally noted
but there was only one recorded execution." (Edwin Powers, Crime and
Punishment in Early Massachusetts, 1620-­1692: A Documentary History
[Boston, MA: Beacon Press, 1966], 300).
3. Bowers vs. Hardwick , 478 US 186, 92 L Ed 2d 140, 106 S Ct 2841, reh
den (US) 92 L Ed 2d 779, 107 S. Ct 29., 147-48. The plaintiff in the
Hardwick case was caught engaging in the act of sodomy only after the
police entered the house on an unrelated case.
4. The Writings of George Washington, Bicentennial Edition (Washington,
DC: U.S. Government Printing Office, 1934), (March 1 through May 31,
1778), 11:83-84.
5. David Granfield, The Abortion Decision (Garden City, NY: Doubleday,
1969), 78-80. Ehrenreich signed, along with more than 400 other
pro-abortionists, an amicus curiae brief in the 1989 Webster v.
Reproductive Health Services. The purpose of the brief was to demonstrate
historically that "Through the nineteenth century American common-law
decisions uniformly reaffirmed that women committed no offense in seeking
abortions." The assertion is false. See Ramesh Ponnuru, "Aborting
History," National Review (October 23, 1995), 29-32. Also see Marvin
Olasky, Abortion Rites: A Social History of Abortion in America (Wheaton,
IL: Crossway Books, 1992).
.

User: "JTEM"

Title: Re: Two Centuries of Family Values 25 Jun 2007 02:37:29 PM
"St. Jack NopetheDopeofapes" <stjnd_...@NOTSOhotmail.com> wrote:
[---snip all----]
Question: You really need the government to tell
you not to have an abortion, or not to have sex
with another man?
.
User: "Libertarius"

Title: Re: Two Centuries of Family Values -- INADEQUATE 25 Jun 2007 03:24:36 PM
JTEM wrote:

"St. Jack NopetheDopeofapes" <stjnd_...@NOTSOhotmail.com> wrote:
[---snip all----]

Question: You really need the government to tell
you not to have an abortion, or not to have sex
with another man?


===>GOOD QUESTION!
Some people are so inadequate, they would like
someone to tell them when to take a breath. -- L.
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User: "Kanda Jalen Eirsie"

Title: Re: Two Centuries of Family Values -- INADEQUATE 19 Jul 2007 02:49:57 AM
Greetings...
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 13:24:36 -0700, Libertarius <Libertarius@nothingbutthe.truth> wrote:

Question: You really need the government to tell
you not to have an abortion, or not to have sex
with another man?


===>GOOD QUESTION!
Some people are so inadequate, they would like
someone to tell them when to take a breath. -- L.

Agreed!
Rev.3.1. [16] So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue
thee out of my mouth.
John.10.1. [16] And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must
bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd. My
sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
The line for the lukewarm forms to the left....
Matt.25.1. [33] And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into
everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

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User: "JohnN"

Title: Re: Two Centuries of Family Values 28 Jun 2007 02:33:01 PM
On Jun 23, 10:52 am, "St. Jack NopetheDopeofapes"
<stjnd_...@NOTSOhotmail.com> wrote:

Two Centuries of Family Values

Barbara Ehrenreich, author of a number of books pushing Marxist ideology
and articles hostile to the role of Christianity and politics, claims that
the "fear of governmental tyranny kept the Founding Fathers from
proscribing anything like 'family values.' Homosexuality was not unknown
200 years ago; nor was abortion. But these were matters, like religion,
that the founders left to individual conscience."1 This is a remarkable
assertion since the thirteen colonies that became our nation's first
thirteen states had laws on the books making sodomy a crime. In some cases
sodomy was punished by death!2 In Bowers vs. Hardwick, the court remarked:

Sodomy was a criminal offense at common law and was forbidden by the laws
of the original 13 States when they ratified the Bill of Rights. In 1868,
when the Fourteenth Amendment was ratified, all but 5 of the 37 States in
the Union had criminal sodomy laws. In fact, until 1961, all 50 States
outlawed sodomy, and today [1986], 25 States and the District of Columbia
continue to provide criminal penalties for sodomy performed in private and
between consenting adults.3

As I read Genesis, the crime of sodomy is either offering your virgin
daughters to your neighbors to gangbang or wanting to gangbang your
neighbor's virgin daughters.


Sodomy has never been tolerated in our nation's history. The law codes of
fifty states prove it.

Roman Catholics were forbideen by the original Constitution of the
state of North Carolina to hold any public office. That changed.


Ehrenreich and her liberal peers are determined to ignore the historical
record and to remake the founders in their own image. Both Jefferson and
Washington believed that without religion, America's civil life would be
chaotic. The legal decisions and public pronouncements of this nation
attest to this fact: the "family values" that the liberal left disdain are
rooted deeply in our heritage and are based on nothing other than
principles of God's Word.

And yet none of the Founders saw fit to enshiren their deep religious
beliefs in the Constituion. The only evidence the Constitution has to
support the Founders' Christian values are slavery and men are
superior to women.
JohnN
.

User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Two Centuries of Family Values 23 Jun 2007 03:13:27 PM
On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 10:52:10 -0400, "St. Jack NopetheDopeofapes"
<stjnd_021@NOTSOhotmail.com> wrote:

Ehrenreich also wants us to believe that there were no laws prohibiting
abortion until the Christian Right came along. This is nonsense. She needs
to be reminded that abortion was legalized in 1973-nearly two-hundred
years after the ratification of the Constitution. Prior to the Roe vs.
Wade decision, abortion was outlawed in all fifty states and the District
of Columbia, with exceptions only for life endangerment of the mother.5
5. David Granfield, The Abortion Decision (Garden City, NY: Doubleday,
1969), 78-80. Ehrenreich signed, along with more than 400 other
pro-abortionists, an amicus curiae brief in the 1989 Webster v.
Reproductive Health Services. The purpose of the brief was to demonstrate
historically that "Through the nineteenth century American common-law
decisions uniformly reaffirmed that women committed no offense in seeking
abortions." The assertion is false. See Ramesh Ponnuru, "Aborting
History," National Review (October 23, 1995), 29-32. Also see Marvin
Olasky, Abortion Rites: A Social History of Abortion in America (Wheaton,
IL: Crossway Books, 1992).

So far it's all assertion. Any actual evidence that abortion was
illegal?
.

User: "Matt Silberstein"

Title: Re: Two Centuries of Family Values 25 Jun 2007 10:10:19 AM
On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 10:52:10 -0400, in alt.atheism , "St. Jack
NopetheDopeofapes" <stjnd_021@NOTSOhotmail.com> in
<mvOdneHXiPACruDbnZ2dnUVZ_hCdnZ2d@giganews.com> wrote:

Two Centuries of Family Values

Barbara Ehrenreich, author of a number of books pushing Marxist ideology
and articles hostile to the role of Christianity and politics, claims that
the "fear of governmental tyranny kept the Founding Fathers from
proscribing anything like 'family values.' Homosexuality was not unknown
200 years ago; nor was abortion. But these were matters, like religion,
that the founders left to individual conscience."1 This is a remarkable
assertion since the thirteen colonies that became our nation's first
thirteen states had laws on the books making sodomy a crime. In some cases
sodomy was punished by death!2 In Bowers vs. Hardwick, the court remarked:

Sodomy was any non-standard sex act, including oral sex between
husband and wife. I look forward to your claim that it should still be
illegal.
[snip]
--
Matt Silberstein
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User: "Libertarius"

Title: Re: Two Centuries of Family Values 25 Jun 2007 02:14:19 PM
Matt Silberstein wrote:

On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 10:52:10 -0400, in alt.atheism , "St. Jack
NopetheDopeofapes" <stjnd_021@NOTSOhotmail.com> in
<mvOdneHXiPACruDbnZ2dnUVZ_hCdnZ2d@giganews.com> wrote:


Two Centuries of Family Values

Barbara Ehrenreich, author of a number of books pushing Marxist ideology
and articles hostile to the role of Christianity and politics, claims that
the "fear of governmental tyranny kept the Founding Fathers from
proscribing anything like 'family values.' Homosexuality was not unknown
200 years ago; nor was abortion. But these were matters, like religion,
that the founders left to individual conscience."1 This is a remarkable
assertion since the thirteen colonies that became our nation's first
thirteen states had laws on the books making sodomy a crime. In some cases
sodomy was punished by death!2 In Bowers vs. Hardwick, the court remarked:



Sodomy was any non-standard sex act, including oral sex between
husband and wife. I look forward to your claim that it should still be
illegal.


[snip]

===>The US Constitution was to regulate and limit the powers of the
FEDERAL government. Most Americans are ignorant of what the Cosntitution
says. Read the Tenth Amendment. -- L.
--
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User: "Matt Silberstein"

Title: Re: Two Centuries of Family Values 25 Jun 2007 04:05:02 PM
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 12:14:19 -0700, in alt.atheism , Libertarius
<Libertarius@nothingbutthe.truth> in
<468007d3$0$16397$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> wrote:

Matt Silberstein wrote:

On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 10:52:10 -0400, in alt.atheism , "St. Jack
NopetheDopeofapes" <stjnd_021@NOTSOhotmail.com> in
<mvOdneHXiPACruDbnZ2dnUVZ_hCdnZ2d@giganews.com> wrote:


Two Centuries of Family Values

Barbara Ehrenreich, author of a number of books pushing Marxist ideology
and articles hostile to the role of Christianity and politics, claims that
the "fear of governmental tyranny kept the Founding Fathers from
proscribing anything like 'family values.' Homosexuality was not unknown
200 years ago; nor was abortion. But these were matters, like religion,
that the founders left to individual conscience."1 This is a remarkable
assertion since the thirteen colonies that became our nation's first
thirteen states had laws on the books making sodomy a crime. In some cases
sodomy was punished by death!2 In Bowers vs. Hardwick, the court remarked:



Sodomy was any non-standard sex act, including oral sex between
husband and wife. I look forward to your claim that it should still be
illegal.


[snip]

===>The US Constitution was to regulate and limit the powers of the
FEDERAL government. Most Americans are ignorant of what the Cosntitution
says. Read the Tenth Amendment. -- L.

Read the 14th.
--
Matt Silberstein
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User: "Libertarius"

Title: Re: Two Centuries of Family Values 25 Jun 2007 05:55:00 PM
Matt Silberstein wrote:

On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 12:14:19 -0700, in alt.atheism , Libertarius
<Libertarius@nothingbutthe.truth> in
<468007d3$0$16397$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> wrote:


Matt Silberstein wrote:

On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 10:52:10 -0400, in alt.atheism , "St. Jack
NopetheDopeofapes" <stjnd_021@NOTSOhotmail.com> in
<mvOdneHXiPACruDbnZ2dnUVZ_hCdnZ2d@giganews.com> wrote:



Two Centuries of Family Values

Barbara Ehrenreich, author of a number of books pushing Marxist ideology
and articles hostile to the role of Christianity and politics, claims that
the "fear of governmental tyranny kept the Founding Fathers from
proscribing anything like 'family values.' Homosexuality was not unknown
200 years ago; nor was abortion. But these were matters, like religion,
that the founders left to individual conscience."1 This is a remarkable
assertion since the thirteen colonies that became our nation's first
thirteen states had laws on the books making sodomy a crime. In some cases
sodomy was punished by death!2 In Bowers vs. Hardwick, the court remarked:



Sodomy was any non-standard sex act, including oral sex between
husband and wife. I look forward to your claim that it should still be
illegal.


[snip]


===>The US Constitution was to regulate and limit the powers of the
FEDERAL government. Most Americans are ignorant of what the Cosntitution
says. Read the Tenth Amendment. -- L.



Read the 14th.


===>Irrelevant.
The statement was "the thirteen colonies that became our nation's first
thirteen states had laws on the books making sodomy a crime. In some
cases sodomy was punished by death!"
The 14th Amendment came much later. By then there were many more than
"the thirteen colonies that became our nation's first
thirteen states." The 10th Amendment allowed the "first 13"
to have their own laws. -- L.
--
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User: "Matt Silberstein"

Title: Re: Two Centuries of Family Values 26 Jun 2007 08:51:13 AM
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 15:55:00 -0700, in alt.atheism , Libertarius
<Libertarius@nothingbutthe.truth> in
<46803b8c$0$16328$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> wrote:

Matt Silberstein wrote:

On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 12:14:19 -0700, in alt.atheism , Libertarius
<Libertarius@nothingbutthe.truth> in
<468007d3$0$16397$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> wrote:


Matt Silberstein wrote:

On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 10:52:10 -0400, in alt.atheism , "St. Jack
NopetheDopeofapes" <stjnd_021@NOTSOhotmail.com> in
<mvOdneHXiPACruDbnZ2dnUVZ_hCdnZ2d@giganews.com> wrote:



Two Centuries of Family Values

Barbara Ehrenreich, author of a number of books pushing Marxist ideology
and articles hostile to the role of Christianity and politics, claims that
the "fear of governmental tyranny kept the Founding Fathers from
proscribing anything like 'family values.' Homosexuality was not unknown
200 years ago; nor was abortion. But these were matters, like religion,
that the founders left to individual conscience."1 This is a remarkable
assertion since the thirteen colonies that became our nation's first
thirteen states had laws on the books making sodomy a crime. In some cases
sodomy was punished by death!2 In Bowers vs. Hardwick, the court remarked:



Sodomy was any non-standard sex act, including oral sex between
husband and wife. I look forward to your claim that it should still be
illegal.


[snip]


===>The US Constitution was to regulate and limit the powers of the
FEDERAL government. Most Americans are ignorant of what the Cosntitution
says. Read the Tenth Amendment. -- L.



Read the 14th.


===>Irrelevant.
The statement was "the thirteen colonies that became our nation's first
thirteen states had laws on the books making sodomy a crime. In some
cases sodomy was punished by death!"
The 14th Amendment came much later. By then there were many more than
"the thirteen colonies that became our nation's first
thirteen states." The 10th Amendment allowed the "first 13"
to have their own laws. -- L.

Yes, it did. But no one had said otherwise.
--
Matt Silberstein
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User: "No Reply"

Title: Re: Two Centuries of Family Values 26 Jun 2007 11:47:10 AM
"Matt Silberstein" <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message news:0e6283hqj3o7q47h6muq33tn2c2oar038f@4ax.com...

===>The US Constitution was to regulate and limit the powers of the
FEDERAL government. Most Americans are ignorant of what the Cosntitution
says. Read the Tenth Amendment. -- L.



Read the 14th.


===>Irrelevant.
The statement was "the thirteen colonies that became our nation's first
thirteen states had laws on the books making sodomy a crime. In some
cases sodomy was punished by death!"
The 14th Amendment came much later. By then there were many more than
"the thirteen colonies that became our nation's first
thirteen states." The 10th Amendment allowed the "first 13"
to have their own laws. -- L.


Yes, it did. But no one had said otherwise.

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User: "Merlin"

Title: Re: Two Centuries of Family Values 26 Jun 2007 09:22:13 AM
dear Libertarius,

The statement was "the thirteen colonies that became our nation's first
thirteen states had laws on the books making sodomy a crime. In some
cases sodomy was punished by death!"

did this enclude slaves that were forced to have sodomy with their
owners?
would you put all your gay slaves to death back then?
would you torture your lesbian slaves until they had sex with you?
how great were these people when they could not give homosexauls or
non whites any rights?
in love with the living gay jesus,
merlin
.
User: "Libertarius"

Title: Re: Two Centuries of Family Values 26 Jun 2007 11:41:52 AM
Merlin wrote:

dear Libertarius,


The statement was "the thirteen colonies that became our nation's first
thirteen states had laws on the books making sodomy a crime. In some
cases sodomy was punished by death!"



did this enclude slaves that were forced to have sodomy with their
owners?

===>Possibly in some, probably not in the majority of cases.

would you put all your gay slaves to death back then?

===>I did not live "back then".
But I doubt they did care what their gay slaves did.

would you torture your lesbian slaves until they had sex with you?

===>Again, I did not live "back then".
If they raped their female slaves, they probably did not care if they
were hetero or homo.


how great were these people when they could not give homosexauls or
non whites any rights?

===>No one can "give" anyone any rights.
Human rights are INHERENT.
Some people can be prevented by force from exercising their natural rights.


in love with the living gay jesus,

===>Like all deities,
that is a figment of your imagination. -- L.
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User: "Merlin"

Title: Re: Two Centuries of Family Values 26 Jun 2007 11:53:16 AM
dear libby,

Human rights are INHERENT.
Some people can be prevented by force from exercising their natural rights.


in love with the living gay jesus,


===>Like all deities,
that is a figment of your imagination. -- L.

as is civil rights for gays and non whites in america in christian
america.
.
User: "No Reply"

Title: Re: Two Centuries of Family Values 26 Jun 2007 08:27:52 PM
"Merlin" <merlinator@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1182876796.038341.102290@c77g2000hse.googlegroups.com...

dear libby,


Human rights are INHERENT.
Some people can be prevented by force from exercising their natural rights.


in love with the living gay jesus,


===>Like all deities,
that is a figment of your imagination. -- L.

Nope!
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Licona
49. How Can Someone Come Back from the Dead? (1:07) - Michael Licona
50. Was Jesus Really Crucified? (3:20) - Michael Licona
51. Why Does the Resurrection Make a Difference? (4:23) - Lee Strobel,
Jerry Johnston
52. What is So Unique About Jesus Christ? (5:13) - Lee Strobel
53. Is there a Case for the Resurrection of Jesus? (7:30) - Dr. William
Lane Craig
54. Did People Really See Jesus After the Resurrection? (4:57) - Dr.
William Lane Craig
55. What is the Most Rational Conclusion of a Resurrected Jesus? (1:41) -
Dr. William Lane Craig
56. Did Jesus Physically Appear to the Disciples or Was He a Vision? (2:17)
- Dr. William Lane Craig
57. What Do Scholars Believe About the Resurrection of Jesus? (4:26) - Dr.
William Lane Craig
58. Did Simon Peter Invent the Resurrection? (3:32) - Dr. William Lane
Craig
59. What is the Personal Impact for the Resurrection? (5:09) - Dr. William
Lane Craig
60. Did Jesus Die and Was He Buried as Christians Claim? (3:27) - Dr.
William Lane Craig
61. Did Early Jews Understand the Scriptures to Claim an Empty Tomb? (3:34)
- Dr. William Lane Craig
62. Did People See the Resurrected Jesus and How Did it Effect Them? (3:42)
- Dr. William Lane Craig
63. Did God Raise Jesus from the Dead? (2:59) - Dr. William Lane Craig
64. Has God Revealed Himself Personally to Creation? (5:15) - Dr. William
Lane Craig
65. Did Jesus Claim to Be God in His Teachings? (5:53) - Dr. William Lane
Craig
66. Did Jesus Claim to Be God in His Actions? (5:07) - Dr. William Lane
Craig
67. How do Muslims Conceive of Jesus? (4:54) - Dr. William Lane Craig
68. How Much Sin Will Jesus Forgive in My Life? (9:32) - Luis Palau
69. What Does it Mean to Be a Follower of Jesus Christ? (13:13) - Rick
Warren
70. Response to an Email Regarding the ARCHKO Volume (3:04) - Lee Strobel
71. Former Atheist Now Deist, Antony Flew, Goes Beyond Deism Saying a
Creator Was Involved in the creation of Life. (3:01) - Lee Strobel, Antony
Flew
.

User: "Libertarius"

Title: Re: Two Centuries of Family Values 26 Jun 2007 12:08:44 PM
Merlin wrote:

dear libby,



Human rights are INHERENT.
Some people can be prevented by force from exercising their natural rights.

in love with the living gay jesus,


===>Like all deities,
that is a figment of your imagination. -- L.



as is civil rights for gays and non whites in america in christian
america.

===>Are you one of those who believe people in government
should decide how you may live, whom you may make consensual
love to or what you may do with your fetus?
Read the NINTH AMENDMENT of the Bill of Rights. -- L
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
.
User: "Kanda Jalen Eirsie"

Title: Re: Two Centuries of Family Values 19 Jul 2007 01:54:25 AM
Greetings...
On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 10:08:44 -0700, Libertarius <Libertarius@nothingbutthe.truth> wrote:

===>Are you one of those who believe people in government
should decide how you may live, whom you may make consensual
love to or what you may do with your fetus?
Read the NINTH AMENDMENT of the Bill of Rights. -- L

You know the more of your posts I read Liber - The more I find that I respect your
views... Well, other than your satanic agnosticism... lol..
Your own example says - Without God - You have no rights, as he is the ultimate
authority...
ll
Kanda'
<>SPAM-KILLER<>- If you really want to contact me, then -
kandaje<at>bresnan<dot>net
Providing good honest memes - even if you don't get it yet..
You figure it out...
.

User: ""

Title: Re: Two Centuries of Family Values 27 Jun 2007 01:37:15 PM
dear Libby>

===>Are you one of those

oh oh. is that bad or what?

who believe people in government

never believe anyone in government. they are all out to get elected
or get their bosses elected. or stay in office. this christian
government we have now is dangerous to democracy and civil right and
personal freedoms in america.

should decide how you may live,

in a dictatorship or democracy?
in rome people were not allowed not to worship ceasar, that is how
they got jesus, jesus was said to be a king, prince of the house of
david, not sure where that put herod in the line of david, that did
not obey ceasar, that is the basic reason he was executed. he was not
willing to worship ceasar, pay taxes? he said of course.

whom you may make consensual

is this legal?

love to

this christian government is making it very hard to experience any
diversity.

or what you may do with your fetus?

this is a strange phrase, we can be arrested for discarding a baby on
a porch, no?

Read

dearest whomever, please do not give assignments, say it here.
in love with the living gay jesus,
merlin
.










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