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01 Dec 2007 09:31:36 AM |
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Two levels of sin - serious vs less serious |
Mortal (serious) vs Venial Sins (less serious)
1 John 5:16-17 (New International Version)
16If anyone sees his brother commit a sin that does not lead to death, he
should pray and God will give him life. I refer to those whose sin does not lead
to death. There is a sin that leads to death. I am not saying that he should
pray about that. 17All wrongdoing is sin, and there is sin that does not lead to
death.
Mortal sin leads to death. Less serious sin does not necessarily.
Hebrews 10:26-27 (New International Version)
26If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of
the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27but only a fearful expectation of
judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God.
duke, American-American
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| Title: Re: Two levels of sin - serious vs less serious |
01 Dec 2007 11:25:39 AM |
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On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 09:31:36 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
Mortal (serious) vs Venial Sins (less serious)
1 John 5:16-17 (New International Version)
16If anyone sees his brother commit a sin that does not lead to death, he
should pray and God will give him life. I refer to those whose sin does not lead
to death. There is a sin that leads to death. I am not saying that he should
pray about that. 17All wrongdoing is sin, and there is sin that does not lead to
death.
Mortal sin leads to death. Less serious sin does not necessarily.
Hebrews 10:26-27 (New International Version)
26If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of
the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27but only a fearful expectation of
judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God.
You should pay attention to that last one, duky.
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| User: "vernono vernono@hereandthere" |
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| Title: Re: Two levels of sin - serious vs less serious |
01 Dec 2007 05:06:28 PM |
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<checker@flapper.net> wrote in message
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On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 09:31:36 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
Mortal (serious) vs Venial Sins (less serious)
1 John 5:16-17 (New International Version)
16If anyone sees his brother commit a sin that does not lead to death, he
should pray and God will give him life. I refer to those whose sin does
not lead
to death. There is a sin that leads to death. I am not saying that he
should
pray about that. 17All wrongdoing is sin, and there is sin that does not
lead to
death.
Mortal sin leads to death. Less serious sin does not necessarily.
Hebrews 10:26-27 (New International Version)
26If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge
of
the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27but only a fearful expectation
of
judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God.
You should pay attention to that last one, duky.
checker
The ONLY mortal sin is distressing the Holy Spirit (Not being one of the
Father's)
There is ONE God, who can show Himself to any individual as the Father,
Jesus, The Holy Spirit.
OTHER gods (saints that can be talked to, mother of God, Idols bowed to) are
simply an illustration of MORTAL SIN.
(Not belonging to God)
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| User: "john w" |
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| Title: Re: Two levels of sin - serious vs less serious |
03 Dec 2007 01:06:38 PM |
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On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 16:06:28 -0700, "vernono" <vernono@hereandthere>
wrote:
<checker@flapper.net> wrote in message
news:4863l3dsv3fm4la24m9bf5tpjnct380kqf@4ax.com...
On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 09:31:36 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
Mortal (serious) vs Venial Sins (less serious)
1 John 5:16-17 (New International Version)
16If anyone sees his brother commit a sin that does not lead to death, he
should pray and God will give him life. I refer to those whose sin does
not lead
to death. There is a sin that leads to death. I am not saying that he
should
pray about that. 17All wrongdoing is sin, and there is sin that does not
lead to
death.
Mortal sin leads to death. Less serious sin does not necessarily.
Hebrews 10:26-27 (New International Version)
26If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge
of
the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27but only a fearful expectation
of
judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God.
You should pay attention to that last one, duky.
checker
SNIP
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| Title: Re: Two levels of sin - serious vs less serious |
03 Dec 2007 02:57:56 PM |
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On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 11:06:38 -0800, 'the other party' QUOTH:
SNIP
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03 Dec 2007 10:12:43 AM |
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On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 16:06:28 -0700, "vernono" <vernono@hereandthere>
wrote:
<checker@flapper.net> wrote in message
news:4863l3dsv3fm4la24m9bf5tpjnct380kqf@4ax.com...
On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 09:31:36 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
Mortal (serious) vs Venial Sins (less serious)
1 John 5:16-17 (New International Version)
16If anyone sees his brother commit a sin that does not lead to death, he
should pray and God will give him life. I refer to those whose sin does
not lead
to death. There is a sin that leads to death. I am not saying that he
should
pray about that. 17All wrongdoing is sin, and there is sin that does not
lead to
death.
Mortal sin leads to death. Less serious sin does not necessarily.
Hebrews 10:26-27 (New International Version)
26If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge
of
the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27but only a fearful expectation
of
judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God.
You should pay attention to that last one, duky.
checker
The ONLY mortal sin is distressing the Holy Spirit (Not being one of the
Father's)
There is ONE God, who can show Himself to any individual as the Father,
Jesus, The Holy Spirit.
OTHER gods (saints that can be talked to, mother of God, Idols bowed to) are
simply an illustration of MORTAL SIN.
(Not belonging to God)
Does this mean you are "oneness" pentecostal? Do you believe Jesus IS
His Father?
Just curious.
Checker
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| User: "vernono vernono@hereandthere" |
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| Title: Re: Two levels of sin - serious vs less serious |
03 Dec 2007 11:36:52 AM |
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<checker@flapper.net> wrote in message
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On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 16:06:28 -0700, "vernono" <vernono@hereandthere>
wrote:
<checker@flapper.net> wrote in message
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On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 09:31:36 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
Mortal (serious) vs Venial Sins (less serious)
1 John 5:16-17 (New International Version)
16If anyone sees his brother commit a sin that does not lead to death,
he
should pray and God will give him life. I refer to those whose sin does
not lead
to death. There is a sin that leads to death. I am not saying that he
should
pray about that. 17All wrongdoing is sin, and there is sin that does not
lead to
death.
Mortal sin leads to death. Less serious sin does not necessarily.
Hebrews 10:26-27 (New International Version)
26If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the
knowledge
of
the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27but only a fearful
expectation
of
judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God.
You should pay attention to that last one, duky.
checker
The ONLY mortal sin is distressing the Holy Spirit (Not being one of the
Father's)
There is ONE God, who can show Himself to any individual as the Father,
Jesus, The Holy Spirit.
OTHER gods (saints that can be talked to, mother of God, Idols bowed to)
are
simply an illustration of MORTAL SIN.
(Not belonging to God)
Does this mean you are "oneness" pentecostal? Do you believe Jesus IS
His Father?
Just curious.
Checker
God is omnipresent.
God is omnipotent.
God is omnipresent.
God (The Logos) was there in the beginning.
God is spirit (a term we use for that which we cannot understand.)
God the Father formed Jesus, the man, in Mary's womb. (Hebrews)
There is God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit and they have
ALL (as one) existed from the BEGINNING.
Nothing in the bible about "persons". Persons is a crutch word for us
mortals.
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| User: "john w" |
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| Title: Re: Two levels of sin - serious vs less serious |
03 Dec 2007 01:10:51 PM |
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On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 09:12:43 -0700, wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 16:06:28 -0700, "vernono" <vernono@hereandthere>
wrote:
< > wrote in message
news:4863l3dsv3fm4la24m9bf5tpjnct380kqf@4ax.com...
On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 09:31:36 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
Mortal (serious) vs Venial Sins (less serious)
1 John 5:16-17 (New International Version)
16If anyone sees his brother commit a sin that does not lead to death, he
should pray and God will give him life. I refer to those whose sin does
not lead
to death. There is a sin that leads to death. I am not saying that he
should
pray about that. 17All wrongdoing is sin, and there is sin that does not
lead to
death.
Mortal sin leads to death. Less serious sin does not necessarily.
Hebrews 10:26-27 (New International Version)
26If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge
of
the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27but only a fearful expectation
of
judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God.
You should pay attention to that last one, duky.
checker
The ONLY mortal sin is distressing the Holy Spirit (Not being one of the
Father's)
There is ONE God, who can show Himself to any individual as the Father,
Jesus, The Holy Spirit.
OTHER gods (saints that can be talked to, mother of God, Idols bowed to) are
simply an illustration of MORTAL SIN.
(Not belonging to God)
Does this mean you are "oneness" pentecostal? Do you believe Jesus IS
His Father?
The teaching that the Son is the Father is not "Oneness."
John 1
In the beginning was the Word / Logos/Son, and the Word/Logos/Son
was WITH God / Father, and the Word/Logos/Son WAS God/Father.
Isaiah 9:6
ISA 9:6 For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given,
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
The Son is Son, Wonderful Counselor, Mighty [Almighty ] God,
Everlasting FATHER, Prince of Peace.
The Son is BOTH the Son and the FATHER.
I believe I'll take the prophet's word over YOURS!
Paul said (Colossians 2)
In Him (the Son) dwelt the Fullness of the Godhead (Father/Son/Holy
Spirit) in flesh.
If you don't believe that the Son (Christ) was the Father in flesh,
you are not a Christian.
Just curious.
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03 Dec 2007 02:58:22 PM |
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On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 11:10:51 -0800, 'the other party' QUOTH:
On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 09:12:43 -0700, wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 16:06:28 -0700, "vernono" <vernono@hereandthere>
wrote:
< > wrote in message
news:4863l3dsv3fm4la24m9bf5tpjnct380kqf@4ax.com...
On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 09:31:36 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
Mortal (serious) vs Venial Sins (less serious)
1 John 5:16-17 (New International Version)
16If anyone sees his brother commit a sin that does not lead to death, he
should pray and God will give him life. I refer to those whose sin does
not lead
to death. There is a sin that leads to death. I am not saying that he
should
pray about that. 17All wrongdoing is sin, and there is sin that does not
lead to
death.
Mortal sin leads to death. Less serious sin does not necessarily.
Hebrews 10:26-27 (New International Version)
26If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge
of
the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27but only a fearful expectation
of
judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God.
You should pay attention to that last one, duky.
checker
The ONLY mortal sin is distressing the Holy Spirit (Not being one of the
Father's)
There is ONE God, who can show Himself to any individual as the Father,
Jesus, The Holy Spirit.
OTHER gods (saints that can be talked to, mother of God, Idols bowed to) are
simply an illustration of MORTAL SIN.
(Not belonging to God)
Does this mean you are "oneness" pentecostal? Do you believe Jesus IS
His Father?
SNIP
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| User: "duke" |
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02 Dec 2007 07:15:43 AM |
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On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 16:06:28 -0700, "vernono" <vernono@hereandthere> wrote:
Mortal (serious) vs Venial Sins (less serious)
1 John 5:16-17 (New International Version)
16If anyone sees his brother commit a sin that does not lead to death, he
should pray and God will give him life. I refer to those whose sin does
not lead
to death. There is a sin that leads to death. I am not saying that he
should
pray about that. 17All wrongdoing is sin, and there is sin that does not
lead to
death.
Mortal sin leads to death. Less serious sin does not necessarily.
Hebrews 10:26-27 (New International Version)
26If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge
of
the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27but only a fearful expectation
of
judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God.
You should pay attention to that last one, duky.
checker
The ONLY mortal sin is distressing the Holy Spirit (Not being one of the
Father's)
????
There is ONE God, who can show Himself to any individual as the Father,
Jesus, The Holy Spirit.
Yet Jesus is the only one seen by man.
OTHER gods (saints that can be talked to, mother of God, Idols bowed to) are
simply an illustration of MORTAL SIN.
(Not belonging to God)
Communion of saints is sound Christian belief.
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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01 Dec 2007 01:13:45 PM |
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On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 09:31:36 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
Mortal (serious) vs Venial Sins (less serious)
1 John 5:16-17 (New International Version)
16If anyone sees his brother commit a sin that does not lead to death, he
should pray and God will give him life. I refer to those whose sin does not lead
to death. There is a sin that leads to death. I am not saying that he should
pray about that. 17All wrongdoing is sin, and there is sin that does not lead to
death.
Mortal sin leads to death. Less serious sin does not necessarily.
Hebrews 10:26-27 (New International Version)
26If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of
the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27but only a fearful expectation of
judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God.
You should pay attention to that last one, duky.
Is Duke Hebrew?
checker
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01 Dec 2007 04:16:01 PM |
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On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 14:13:45 -0500, ujb <ujb@bigfeet.com> wrote:
checker@flapper.net wrote:
On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 09:31:36 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
Mortal (serious) vs Venial Sins (less serious)
1 John 5:16-17 (New International Version)
16If anyone sees his brother commit a sin that does not lead to death, he
should pray and God will give him life. I refer to those whose sin does not lead
to death. There is a sin that leads to death. I am not saying that he should
pray about that. 17All wrongdoing is sin, and there is sin that does not lead to
death.
Mortal sin leads to death. Less serious sin does not necessarily.
Hebrews 10:26-27 (New International Version)
26If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of
the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27but only a fearful expectation of
judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God.
You should pay attention to that last one, duky.
Is Duke Hebrew?
Who knows. Why? Do you think that Hebrews are the only ones the book
of Hebrews is really addressed to?
Checker
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01 Dec 2007 08:15:34 PM |
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On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 14:13:45 -0500, ujb <ujb@bigfeet.com> wrote:
wrote:
On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 09:31:36 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
Mortal (serious) vs Venial Sins (less serious)
1 John 5:16-17 (New International Version)
16If anyone sees his brother commit a sin that does not lead to death, he
should pray and God will give him life. I refer to those whose sin does not lead
to death. There is a sin that leads to death. I am not saying that he should
pray about that. 17All wrongdoing is sin, and there is sin that does not lead to
death.
Mortal sin leads to death. Less serious sin does not necessarily.
Hebrews 10:26-27 (New International Version)
26If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of
the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27but only a fearful expectation of
judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God.
You should pay attention to that last one, duky.
Is Duke Hebrew?
Who knows. Why? Do you think that Hebrews are the only ones the book
of Hebrews is really addressed to?
Yes, as a matter of fact I do think that, yes, the letter was
written to Jewish converts. At one time it was called "The
Epistle of Paul to the Hebrews" so I'm in good company. Now some
think it was Barnabas as it seems it wasn't Paul after all? I'm
sure about who it was written to, but not about the author. What
say you?
ujb
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02 Dec 2007 07:18:17 AM |
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On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 21:15:34 -0500, ujb <ujb@bigfeet.com> wrote:
Yes, as a matter of fact I do think that, yes, the letter was
written to Jewish converts. At one time it was called "The
Epistle of Paul to the Hebrews" so I'm in good company. Now some
think it was Barnabas as it seems it wasn't Paul after all? I'm
sure about who it was written to, but not about the author. What
say you?
ujb
Wow, some new cafeteria Christian beliefs by protest_ants.
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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02 Dec 2007 07:21:08 AM |
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On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 15:16:01 -0700, wrote:
On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 14:13:45 -0500, ujb <ujb@bigfeet.com> wrote:
wrote:
On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 09:31:36 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
Mortal (serious) vs Venial Sins (less serious)
1 John 5:16-17 (New International Version)
16If anyone sees his brother commit a sin that does not lead to death, he
should pray and God will give him life. I refer to those whose sin does not lead
to death. There is a sin that leads to death. I am not saying that he should
pray about that. 17All wrongdoing is sin, and there is sin that does not lead to
death.
Mortal sin leads to death. Less serious sin does not necessarily.
Hebrews 10:26-27 (New International Version)
26If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of
the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27but only a fearful expectation of
judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God.
You should pay attention to that last one, duky.
Is Duke Hebrew?
Who knows. Why? Do you think that Hebrews are the only ones the book
of Hebrews is really addressed to?
Thanks be to God for my being Roman Catholic.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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02 Dec 2007 07:52:13 AM |
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duke wrote:
On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 15:16:01 -0700, wrote:
On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 14:13:45 -0500, ujb <ujb@bigfeet.com> wrote:
wrote:
On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 09:31:36 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
Mortal (serious) vs Venial Sins (less serious)
1 John 5:16-17 (New International Version)
16If anyone sees his brother commit a sin that does not lead to death, he
should pray and God will give him life. I refer to those whose sin does not lead
to death. There is a sin that leads to death. I am not saying that he should
pray about that. 17All wrongdoing is sin, and there is sin that does not lead to
death.
Mortal sin leads to death. Less serious sin does not necessarily.
Hebrews 10:26-27 (New International Version)
26If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of
the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27but only a fearful expectation of
judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God.
You should pay attention to that last one, duky.
Is Duke Hebrew?
Who knows. Why? Do you think that Hebrews are the only ones the book
of Hebrews is really addressed to?
Thanks be to God for my being Roman Catholic.
Thank God for Luther Martin rightly dividing the Word!
ujb
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02 Dec 2007 08:28:40 AM |
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On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 08:52:13 -0500, ujb <ujb@bigfeet.com> wrote:
duke wrote:
On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 15:16:01 -0700, wrote:
On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 14:13:45 -0500, ujb <ujb@bigfeet.com> wrote:
wrote:
On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 09:31:36 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
Mortal (serious) vs Venial Sins (less serious)
1 John 5:16-17 (New International Version)
16If anyone sees his brother commit a sin that does not lead to death, he
should pray and God will give him life. I refer to those whose sin does not lead
to death. There is a sin that leads to death. I am not saying that he should
pray about that. 17All wrongdoing is sin, and there is sin that does not lead to
death.
Mortal sin leads to death. Less serious sin does not necessarily.
Hebrews 10:26-27 (New International Version)
26If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of
the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27but only a fearful expectation of
judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God.
You should pay attention to that last one, duky.
Is Duke Hebrew?
Who knows. Why? Do you think that Hebrews are the only ones the book
of Hebrews is really addressed to?
Thanks be to God for my being Roman Catholic.
Thank God for Luther Martin rightly dividing the Word!
ujb
That's why you follow a protest_er.
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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02 Dec 2007 07:13:38 AM |
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On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 14:13:45 -0500, ujb <ujb@bigfeet.com> wrote:
checker@flapper.net wrote:
On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 09:31:36 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
Mortal (serious) vs Venial Sins (less serious)
1 John 5:16-17 (New International Version)
16If anyone sees his brother commit a sin that does not lead to death, he
should pray and God will give him life. I refer to those whose sin does not lead
to death. There is a sin that leads to death. I am not saying that he should
pray about that. 17All wrongdoing is sin, and there is sin that does not lead to
death.
Mortal sin leads to death. Less serious sin does not necessarily.
Hebrews 10:26-27 (New International Version)
26If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of
the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27but only a fearful expectation of
judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God.
You should pay attention to that last one, duky.
Is Duke Hebrew?
Oops, ujb still worships the OT.
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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01 Dec 2007 09:59:52 PM |
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On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 14:13:45 -0500, ujb <ujb@bigfeet.com> wrote:
checker@flapper.net wrote:
On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 09:31:36 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
Mortal (serious) vs Venial Sins (less serious)
1 John 5:16-17 (New International Version)
16If anyone sees his brother commit a sin that does not lead to death, he
should pray and God will give him life. I refer to those whose sin does not lead
to death. There is a sin that leads to death. I am not saying that he should
pray about that. 17All wrongdoing is sin, and there is sin that does not lead to
death.
Mortal sin leads to death. Less serious sin does not necessarily.
Hebrews 10:26-27 (New International Version)
26If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of
the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27but only a fearful expectation of
judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God.
You should pay attention to that last one, duky.
Is Duke Hebrew?
Are you human? I bet you're not.
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02 Dec 2007 08:45:52 AM |
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On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 19:59:52 -0800, the 'other party' whined:
On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 14:13:45 -0500, ujb <ujb@bigfeet.com> wrote:
Is Duke Hebrew?
SNIP!
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02 Dec 2007 07:12:42 AM |
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On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 10:25:39 -0700, wrote:
On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 09:31:36 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
Mortal (serious) vs Venial Sins (less serious)
1 John 5:16-17 (New International Version)
16If anyone sees his brother commit a sin that does not lead to death, he
should pray and God will give him life. I refer to those whose sin does not lead
to death. There is a sin that leads to death. I am not saying that he should
pray about that. 17All wrongdoing is sin, and there is sin that does not lead to
death.
Mortal sin leads to death. Less serious sin does not necessarily.
Hebrews 10:26-27 (New International Version)
26If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of
the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27but only a fearful expectation of
judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God.
You should pay attention to that last one, duky.
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I do, check. That's why I'm Roman Catholic. Thank God for the sacrament of
Confession.
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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18 Jan 2008 02:41:45 AM |
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Sin = Believing that sins will earn you torture until the end of time.
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Abortion = another woman saved, another baby kept from the tortures of
Christians
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01 Dec 2007 10:13:41 AM |
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On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 09:31:36 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
Mortal (serious) vs Venial Sins (less serious)
1 John 5:16-17 (New International Version)
16If anyone sees his brother commit a sin that does not lead to death, he
should pray and God will give him life. I refer to those whose sin does not lead
to death. There is a sin that leads to death. I am not saying that he should
pray about that. 17All wrongdoing is sin, and there is sin that does not lead to
death.
Thanks for clearing that up! ^ ^ ^ Sincerely!
For ONCE, you have correctly applied scripture! See? You can do it
when you really try!
Mortal sin leads to death. Less serious sin does not necessarily.
While I don't particularly like your labels, I know you didn't
invent them. And I don't find "The Bible" in the Bible. So even
non-Roman Catholic Christians have invented some labels. Like
"Christmas."
Hebrews 10:26-27 (New International Version)
26If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of
the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27but only a fearful expectation of
judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
And you're right back to those habitual sins, like lying.
You have been corrected on this one ^ ^ repeatedly. All you are
doing is repeating a LIE Paul VI told!
You have been corrected, so you know better! Yet you keep repeating
Paul VI's lie!
I must believe that that's a mortal sin, since Paul has said SEVERAL
times that God DESPISES liars.
And since you have been corrected repeatedly on this, and you keep
doing it (lying), I must believe that you are "without hope."
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14 Dec 2007 01:53:27 PM |
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On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 08:13:41 -0800,
Attention:
The Internet Censorship Squad has deemed the post herein as
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| User: "duke" |
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02 Dec 2007 07:11:22 AM |
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On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 08:13:41 -0800, john w <johnw<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
x-no-archive: yes
On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 09:31:36 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
Mortal (serious) vs Venial Sins (less serious)
1 John 5:16-17 (New International Version)
16If anyone sees his brother commit a sin that does not lead to death, he
should pray and God will give him life. I refer to those whose sin does not lead
to death. There is a sin that leads to death. I am not saying that he should
pray about that. 17All wrongdoing is sin, and there is sin that does not lead to
death.
Thanks for clearing that up! ^ ^ ^ Sincerely!
For ONCE, you have correctly applied scripture! See? You can do it
when you really try!
Here's some others that I posted that are valid scripture.
MASS:
Do this in memory of me - Mat 26, Mark 14, Luke 22, 1Cor 11.
SACRAMENTS:
Baptism - John 3:5-6, Mat 28:19
Holy Eucharist - Mat 26, Mark 14, Luke 22, 1 Cor 11.
Confession - John 20:22-23, Mat 9:2-8
Matrimony - Ephesians 5:31
Confirmation - Ephesians 1:13, Acts 8:14-17, 19:5-6,
Holy Orders - Acts 13:3 & 14:23, John 20:22, 1 & 2 Tim
Anointing of the Sick - Mark 6:12-13, John 5:14
PAPACY:
Mat 16:13-20, Acts 15:7
Mortal sin leads to death. Less serious sin does not necessarily.
While I don't particularly like your labels, I know you didn't
invent them. And I don't find "The Bible" in the Bible. So even
non-Roman Catholic Christians have invented some labels. Like
"Christmas."
There's no doubt that the Mass is the most perfect form of prayer.
And you're right back to those habitual sins, like lying.
You have been corrected on this one ^ ^ repeatedly. All you are
doing is repeating a LIE Paul VI told!
Oh, stuff it, jw.
You have been corrected, so you know better! Yet you keep repeating
Paul VI's lie!
No, you're just hoping it's not true. Because you leave it out of your
religious practices.
I must believe that that's a mortal sin, since Paul has said SEVERAL
times that God DESPISES liars.
Which is exactly why I don't lie.
And since you have been corrected repeatedly on this, and you keep
doing it (lying), I must believe that you are "without hope."
You haven't corrected anyone on this. You are only the fool of fools for
disbelieving scripture.
It's all professed directly from the Christian Church that Christ founded - the
Catholic Church.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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02 Dec 2007 10:24:05 AM |
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On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 07:11:22 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 08:13:41 -0800, john w <johnw<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
x-no-archive: yes
On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 09:31:36 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
Mortal (serious) vs Venial Sins (less serious)
1 John 5:16-17 (New International Version)
16If anyone sees his brother commit a sin that does not lead to death, he
should pray and God will give him life. I refer to those whose sin does not lead
to death. There is a sin that leads to death. I am not saying that he should
pray about that. 17All wrongdoing is sin, and there is sin that does not lead to
death.
Thanks for clearing that up! ^ ^ ^ Sincerely!
For ONCE, you have correctly applied scripture! See? You can do it
when you really try!
Here's some others that I posted that are valid scripture.
Why-- every time you make a point-- do you have to push it with 10
non-points?
There is no word "mass" in the Bible.
SNIP
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02 Dec 2007 10:31:47 AM |
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On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 08:24:05 -0800, john w <johnw<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
x-no-archive: yes
On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 07:11:22 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 08:13:41 -0800, john w <johnw<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
x-no-archive: yes
On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 09:31:36 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
Mortal (serious) vs Venial Sins (less serious)
1 John 5:16-17 (New International Version)
16If anyone sees his brother commit a sin that does not lead to death, he
should pray and God will give him life. I refer to those whose sin does not lead
to death. There is a sin that leads to death. I am not saying that he should
pray about that. 17All wrongdoing is sin, and there is sin that does not lead to
death.
Thanks for clearing that up! ^ ^ ^ Sincerely!
For ONCE, you have correctly applied scripture! See? You can do it
when you really try!
Here's some others that I posted that are valid scripture.
Why-- every time you make a point-- do you have to push it with 10
non-points?
They are 10 gifts from God that you turn your back on.
There is no word "mass" in the Bible.
So what's the difference between your service and mine?
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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02 Dec 2007 02:56:39 PM |
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On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 10:31:47 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 08:24:05 -0800, john w <johnw<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
x-no-archive: yes
On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 07:11:22 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 08:13:41 -0800, john w <johnw<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
x-no-archive: yes
On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 09:31:36 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
Mortal (serious) vs Venial Sins (less serious)
1 John 5:16-17 (New International Version)
16If anyone sees his brother commit a sin that does not lead to death, he
should pray and God will give him life. I refer to those whose sin does not lead
to death. There is a sin that leads to death. I am not saying that he should
pray about that. 17All wrongdoing is sin, and there is sin that does not lead to
death.
Thanks for clearing that up! ^ ^ ^ Sincerely!
For ONCE, you have correctly applied scripture! See? You can do it
when you really try!
Here's some others that I posted that are valid scripture.
Why-- every time you make a point-- do you have to push it with 10
non-points?
They are 10 gifts from God that you turn your back on.
Not so. I don't turn my back on scripture, and you can't find the
stuff you are talking about IN THE BIBLE.
You have to take someone else's word for it. You take the word of
people who to this day, continue to protect child molesters!
There is no word "mass" in the Bible.
So what's the difference between your service and mine?
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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02 Dec 2007 05:38:24 PM |
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On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 12:56:39 -0800, john w <johnw<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
Here's some others that I posted that are valid scripture.
Why-- every time you make a point-- do you have to push it with 10
non-points?
They are 10 gifts from God that you turn your back on.
Not so. I don't turn my back on scripture, and you can't find the
stuff you are talking about IN THE BIBLE.
Hell, jw, I quoted you scripture verses. Are you that nuts?
You have to take someone else's word for it. You take the word of
people who to this day, continue to protect child molesters!
No they don't. The Catholic house is well being cleaned out, but not the
protest_ant house.
There is no word "mass" in the Bible.
So what's the difference between your service and mine?
To answer would have been to deny the Holy Eucharist. You know it and I know
it.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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02 Dec 2007 09:11:48 PM |
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On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 17:38:24 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 12:56:39 -0800, john w <johnw<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
Here's some others that I posted that are valid scripture.
Why-- every time you make a point-- do you have to push it with 10
non-points?
They are 10 gifts from God that you turn your back on.
Not so. I don't turn my back on scripture, and you can't find the
stuff you are talking about IN THE BIBLE.
Hell, jw, I quoted you scripture verses. Are you that nuts?
When you call me "nuts", you cut off any rational communication. I
won't interact with people who OPENLY insult me.
A learning and behavior disorder don't make me "insane."
You have to take someone else's word for it. You take the word of
people who to this day, continue to protect child molesters!
No they don't. The Catholic house is well being cleaned out, but not the
protest_ant house.
You are a God-damned liar.
And you AGAIN are being DELIBERATELY offensive.
There is no word "mass" in the Bible.
So what's the difference between your service and mine?
To answer would have been to deny the Holy Eucharist. You know it and I know
it.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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03 Dec 2007 09:52:02 AM |
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On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 19:11:48 -0800, 'the other party' QUOTH:
SNIP trash AND blasphemous profanity
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