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User: "David Matthieu P.P."
Date: 16 Aug 2005 04:48:04 AM
Object: TWO PRIVATE JETS FOR KENNETH COPELAND
Kenneth Copeland wants not one but "two" Cessna Citation X Jets:
http://elitecxteam.org/kenneth/
The basic price tag for one Cessna Citation X's is 17.5 Million Dollars, so
for these
two jets the followers of Kenneth Copeland must do the math and also add the
sales tax. For several decades these poor followers will have to work long
hours and two jobs to pay for the pledges they charged on their credit
cards.
Kenneth Copeland wants not one but "two" Cessna Citation X Jets:
http://elitecxteam.org/kenneth/
The basic price tag for one Cessna Citation X's is 17.5 Million Dollars, so
for these
two jets the followers of Kenneth Copeland must do the math and also add the
sales tax. For several decades these poor followers will have to work long
hours and two jobs to pay for the pledges they charged on their credit
cards.
.

User: "Nog"

Title: Re: TWO PRIVATE JETS FOR KENNETH COPELAND 16 Aug 2005 02:19:24 PM
"David Matthieu P.P."
<donotreceivethepentecostalanointing@theyarespiritsofdevilsworkingmiracles.com>
wrote in message news:YBiMe.17808$Rm3.7719@bignews4.bellsouth.net...

Kenneth Copeland wants not one but "two" Cessna Citation X Jets:

http://elitecxteam.org/kenneth/

The basic price tag for one Cessna Citation X's is 17.5 Million Dollars,
so
for these
two jets the followers of Kenneth Copeland must do the math and also add
the
sales tax. For several decades these poor followers will have to work long
hours and two jobs to pay for the pledges they charged on their credit
cards.
Kenneth Copeland wants not one but "two" Cessna Citation X Jets:

http://elitecxteam.org/kenneth/

The basic price tag for one Cessna Citation X's is 17.5 Million Dollars,
so
for these
two jets the followers of Kenneth Copeland must do the math and also add
the
sales tax. For several decades these poor followers will have to work long
hours and two jobs to pay for the pledges they charged on their credit
cards.


Keep those holy dollars rolling in, he loves suckers.
.

User: "$ Glorious Appearing $"

Title: Re: TWO PRIVATE JETS FOR KENNETH COPELAND 16 Aug 2005 06:37:08 AM
"David Matthieu P.P."
<donotreceivethepentecostalanointing@theyarespiritsofdevilsworkingmiracles.com>
wrote in message news:YBiMe.17808$Rm3.7719@bignews4.bellsouth.net...

Kenneth Copeland wants not one but "two" Cessna Citation X Jets:

http://elitecxteam.org/kenneth/

The basic price tag for one Cessna Citation X's is 17.5 Million Dollars,
so
for these
two jets the followers of Kenneth Copeland must do the math and also add
the
sales tax. For several decades these poor followers will have to work long
hours and two jobs to pay for the pledges they charged on their credit
cards.
Kenneth Copeland wants not one but "two" Cessna Citation X Jets:

http://elitecxteam.org/kenneth/

The basic price tag for one Cessna Citation X's is 17.5 Million Dollars,
so
for these
two jets the followers of Kenneth Copeland must do the math and also add
the
sales tax. For several decades these poor followers will have to work long
hours and two jobs to pay for the pledges they charged on their credit
cards.

David,
What does Kennth promise in return to the good givers?
He must have great faith for two jets.
Albert


.
User: "David Matthieu P.P."

Title: Re: TWO PRIVATE JETS FOR KENNETH COPELAND 16 Aug 2005 08:52:45 AM
"$ Glorious Appearing $" <volendam@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:ddsj53$8fu$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...

What does Kennth promise in return to the good givers?

Only Legions of demons from the lowest Hell.
.


User: "I dont believe in atheists"

Title: Re: TWO PRIVATE JETS FOR KENNETH COPELAND 16 Aug 2005 07:21:48 PM
--
a little philosophy inclineth man's mind to atheism, but depth in philosophy
bringeth men's minds about to religion.
"David Matthieu P.P."
<donotreceivethepentecostalanointing@theyarespiritsofdevilsworkingmiracles.com>
wrote in message news:YBiMe.17808$Rm3.7719@bignews4.bellsouth.net...

Kenneth Copeland wants not one but "two" Cessna Citation X Jets:

http://elitecxteam.org/kenneth/

The basic price tag for one Cessna Citation X's is 17.5 Million Dollars,
so
for these
two jets the followers of Kenneth Copeland must do the math and also add
the
sales tax. For several decades these poor followers will have to work long
hours and two jobs to pay for the pledges they charged on their credit
cards.
Kenneth Copeland wants not one but "two" Cessna Citation X Jets:

http://elitecxteam.org/kenneth/

The basic price tag for one Cessna Citation X's is 17.5 Million Dollars,
so
for these
two jets the followers of Kenneth Copeland must do the math and also add
the
sales tax. For several decades these poor followers will have to work long
hours and two jobs to pay for the pledges they charged on their credit
cards.


.

User: "I dont believe in atheists"

Title: Re: TWO PRIVATE JETS FOR KENNETH COPELAND 16 Aug 2005 07:22:44 PM
--
a little philosophy inclineth man's mind to atheism, but depth in philosophy
bringeth men's minds about to religion.
"David Matthieu P.P."
<donotreceivethepentecostalanointing@theyarespiritsofdevilsworkingmiracles.com>
wrote in message news:YBiMe.17808$Rm3.7719@bignews4.bellsouth.net...

Kenneth Copeland wants not one but "two" Cessna Citation X Jets:

http://elitecxteam.org/kenneth/

The basic price tag for one Cessna Citation X's is 17.5 Million Dollars,
so
for these
two jets the followers of Kenneth Copeland must do the math and also add
the
sales tax. For several decades these poor followers will have to work long
hours and two jobs to pay for the pledges they charged on their credit
cards.
Kenneth Copeland wants not one but "two" Cessna Citation X Jets:

http://elitecxteam.org/kenneth/

The basic price tag for one Cessna Citation X's is 17.5 Million Dollars,
so
for these
two jets the followers of Kenneth Copeland must do the math and also add
the
sales tax. For several decades these poor followers will have to work long
hours and two jobs to pay for the pledges they charged on their credit
cards.

For some erroneous reason you think this article is an attack on God and
Christianity?
Nothing could be further from the truth....*shrugs*
.
User: "Tom"

Title: Re: TWO PRIVATE JETS FOR KENNETH COPELAND 16 Aug 2005 07:23:51 PM
"I don't believe in atheists" <Athiests@Fool.com> wrote in message
news:grvMe.46$Xh6.2716@news.uswest.net...



--
a little philosophy inclineth man's mind to atheism, but depth in
philosophy bringeth men's minds about to religion.
"David Matthieu P.P."
<donotreceivethepentecostalanointing@theyarespiritsofdevilsworkingmiracles.com>
wrote in message news:YBiMe.17808$Rm3.7719@bignews4.bellsouth.net...

Kenneth Copeland wants not one but "two" Cessna Citation X Jets:

http://elitecxteam.org/kenneth/

The basic price tag for one Cessna Citation X's is 17.5 Million Dollars,
so
for these
two jets the followers of Kenneth Copeland must do the math and also add
the
sales tax. For several decades these poor followers will have to work
long
hours and two jobs to pay for the pledges they charged on their credit
cards.
Kenneth Copeland wants not one but "two" Cessna Citation X Jets:

http://elitecxteam.org/kenneth/

The basic price tag for one Cessna Citation X's is 17.5 Million Dollars,
so
for these
two jets the followers of Kenneth Copeland must do the math and also add
the
sales tax. For several decades these poor followers will have to work
long
hours and two jobs to pay for the pledges they charged on their credit
cards.

For some erroneous reason you think this article is an attack on God and
Christianity?
Nothing could be further from the truth....*shrugs*

Here is an attack on you, Asswipe :
"I don't believe in atheists", "Church of the Painful Truth", "Atheist
Bruiser" and others.....these are all names used by the most pitiful of all
people,
Raymond Ambrosini. Raytard, as most people refer to him, is an internet
troll who is a sad and pathetic individual.
Raytard has told this group that he has a job with a six figure income. The
truth is that until recently he was unemployed. He is 49 years old and has
no college degree and it would appear little chance to make a six figure
income.
He might be referring to his job as a pilot. He used this in several
newsgroups he was in and was finally exposed when it was revealed he did not
have a pilot's license. I was personally in a forum a few years back when it
was discovered that not only was Raytard( actually I prefer to call him
Rayturd for it better suits him) not a pilot, but all of the experiences of
his flying was done on Microsoft Flight Simulator. Now that is pathetic
:-)))))))). He said in this forum that we would not guess his occupation and
I think he was thinking about his Microsoft flying
days :-)))))).
Rayturd has been on a pilot's forum and he was politely told to drop dead on
that forum.
Rayturd also claims to have a Ph.D. in Science. In his own words he doesn't
have beyond a two year college degree and does it ever show. If you have
ever corresponded with someone with an education, it shows early and often.
Rayturd also was on a medical forum where he claimed false credentials.
The numerous names under which he has posted has paralleled his personal
life where he is also known by several names. He has a web site under the
name Raymond Michael which using his first and middle names.
For anyone really interested in this fascinating troll all that you need to
do is a search on Raymond Ambrosini. His usual retort to the revelation of
this deceitful past is to say, "is that who you think I am"? Well, yes
Asswipe, that is who I think you are. Want to know why? You have an error in
much of your correspondence where you don't leave a space after a comma. You
will write, " the word needs a comma ,and I'll use one. See how you don't
have a space after the comma, Asswipe? Raymond Ambrosini has the same
problem, so yes, it is you. So you aren't 15, you're 50!! Damn, Rayturd,
aren't you a little old for this childish nonsense?
So long Asswipe, I'll post when you make a substantive statement but from
the my experiences of the past, you're too busy clipping and arranging the
posts of others so your small brain can handle them :-))))))).

.
User: "I dont believe in atheists"

Title: Re: TWO PRIVATE JETS FOR KENNETH COPELAND 16 Aug 2005 10:26:57 PM
"Tom" <mmman_90@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"I don't believe in atheists" <Athiests@Fool.com> wrote in message
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--
a little philosophy inclineth man's mind to atheism, but depth in
philosophy bringeth men's minds about to religion.
"David Matthieu P.P."
<donotreceivethepentecostalanointing@theyarespiritsofdevilsworkingmiracles.com>
wrote in message news:YBiMe.17808$Rm3.7719@bignews4.bellsouth.net...

Kenneth Copeland wants not one but "two" Cessna Citation X Jets:

http://elitecxteam.org/kenneth/

The basic price tag for one Cessna Citation X's is 17.5 Million Dollars,
so
for these
two jets the followers of Kenneth Copeland must do the math and also add
the
sales tax. For several decades these poor followers will have to work
long
hours and two jobs to pay for the pledges they charged on their credit
cards.
Kenneth Copeland wants not one but "two" Cessna Citation X Jets:

http://elitecxteam.org/kenneth/

The basic price tag for one Cessna Citation X's is 17.5 Million Dollars,
so
for these
two jets the followers of Kenneth Copeland must do the math and also add
the
sales tax. For several decades these poor followers will have to work
long
hours and two jobs to pay for the pledges they charged on their credit
cards.

For some erroneous reason you think this article is an attack on God and
Christianity?
Nothing could be further from the truth....*shrugs*


Here is an attack on you, Asswipe :

"I don't believe in atheists", "Church of the Painful Truth", "Atheist
Bruiser" and others.....these are all names used by the most pitiful of
all
people,
Raymond Ambrosini. Raytard, as most people refer to him, is an internet
troll who is a sad and pathetic individual.

Raytard has told this group that he has a job with a six figure income.
The
truth is that until recently he was unemployed. He is 49 years old and
has
no college degree and it would appear little chance to make a six figure
income.

He might be referring to his job as a pilot. He used this in several
newsgroups he was in and was finally exposed when it was revealed he did
not
have a pilot's license. I was personally in a forum a few years back when
it
was discovered that not only was Raytard( actually I prefer to call him
Rayturd for it better suits him) not a pilot, but all of the experiences
of
his flying was done on Microsoft Flight Simulator. Now that is pathetic
:-)))))))). He said in this forum that we would not guess his occupation
and
I think he was thinking about his Microsoft flying
days :-)))))).

Rayturd has been on a pilot's forum and he was politely told to drop dead
on
that forum.

Rayturd also claims to have a Ph.D. in Science. In his own words he
doesn't
have beyond a two year college degree and does it ever show. If you have
ever corresponded with someone with an education, it shows early and
often.

Rayturd also was on a medical forum where he claimed false credentials.

The numerous names under which he has posted has paralleled his personal
life where he is also known by several names. He has a web site under the
name Raymond Michael which using his first and middle names.

For anyone really interested in this fascinating troll all that you need
to
do is a search on Raymond Ambrosini. His usual retort to the revelation of
this deceitful past is to say, "is that who you think I am"? Well, yes
Asswipe, that is who I think you are. Want to know why? You have an error
in
much of your correspondence where you don't leave a space after a comma.
You
will write, " the word needs a comma ,and I'll use one. See how you don't
have a space after the comma, Asswipe? Raymond Ambrosini has the same
problem, so yes, it is you. So you aren't 15, you're 50!! Damn, Rayturd,
aren't you a little old for this childish nonsense?

So long Asswipe, I'll post when you make a substantive statement but from
the my experiences of the past, you're too busy clipping and arranging the
posts of others so your small brain can handle them :-))))))).

LMAO!!!!
This is Skytard from alt.barefoot
I kenw it was him when he had gotten my name and personal information
screwed up.
His style was recognized as well,but it was the name he used that was a dead
giveaway.
Once I traced the headers they went back to his IP.
He posts over at alt.barefoot under the nic *skywise*
His .jpgs appear to have 9 and 10 year olds in them so any authorities
lurking here then this is your heads up situation.
He will more than likely morph again so I will keep my eyes peeled.
He has also sent threatening E-mails and has been reported to Google.
.
User: "Tom"

Title: Re: TWO PRIVATE JETS FOR KENNETH COPELAND 17 Aug 2005 07:49:48 AM
"I don't believe in atheists" <Athiests@Fool.com> wrote in message
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"Tom" <mmman_90@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"I don't believe in atheists" <Athiests@Fool.com> wrote in message
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--
a little philosophy inclineth man's mind to atheism, but depth in
philosophy bringeth men's minds about to religion.
"David Matthieu P.P."
<donotreceivethepentecostalanointing@theyarespiritsofdevilsworkingmiracles.com>
wrote in message news:YBiMe.17808$Rm3.7719@bignews4.bellsouth.net...

Kenneth Copeland wants not one but "two" Cessna Citation X Jets:

http://elitecxteam.org/kenneth/

The basic price tag for one Cessna Citation X's is 17.5 Million
Dollars, so
for these
two jets the followers of Kenneth Copeland must do the math and also
add the
sales tax. For several decades these poor followers will have to work
long
hours and two jobs to pay for the pledges they charged on their credit
cards.
Kenneth Copeland wants not one but "two" Cessna Citation X Jets:

http://elitecxteam.org/kenneth/

The basic price tag for one Cessna Citation X's is 17.5 Million
Dollars, so
for these
two jets the followers of Kenneth Copeland must do the math and also
add the
sales tax. For several decades these poor followers will have to work
long
hours and two jobs to pay for the pledges they charged on their credit
cards.

For some erroneous reason you think this article is an attack on God and
Christianity?
Nothing could be further from the truth....*shrugs*


Here is an attack on you, Asswipe :

"I don't believe in atheists", "Church of the Painful Truth", "Atheist
Bruiser" and others.....these are all names used by the most pitiful of
all
people,
Raymond Ambrosini. Raytard, as most people refer to him, is an internet
troll who is a sad and pathetic individual.

Raytard has told this group that he has a job with a six figure income.
The
truth is that until recently he was unemployed. He is 49 years old and
has
no college degree and it would appear little chance to make a six figure
income.

He might be referring to his job as a pilot. He used this in several
newsgroups he was in and was finally exposed when it was revealed he did
not
have a pilot's license. I was personally in a forum a few years back when
it
was discovered that not only was Raytard( actually I prefer to call him
Rayturd for it better suits him) not a pilot, but all of the experiences
of
his flying was done on Microsoft Flight Simulator. Now that is pathetic
:-)))))))). He said in this forum that we would not guess his occupation
and
I think he was thinking about his Microsoft flying
days :-)))))).

Rayturd has been on a pilot's forum and he was politely told to drop dead
on
that forum.

Rayturd also claims to have a Ph.D. in Science. In his own words he
doesn't
have beyond a two year college degree and does it ever show. If you have
ever corresponded with someone with an education, it shows early and
often.

Rayturd also was on a medical forum where he claimed false credentials.

The numerous names under which he has posted has paralleled his personal
life where he is also known by several names. He has a web site under the
name Raymond Michael which using his first and middle names.

For anyone really interested in this fascinating troll all that you need
to
do is a search on Raymond Ambrosini. His usual retort to the revelation
of
this deceitful past is to say, "is that who you think I am"? Well, yes
Asswipe, that is who I think you are. Want to know why? You have an error
in
much of your correspondence where you don't leave a space after a comma.
You
will write, " the word needs a comma ,and I'll use one. See how you don't
have a space after the comma, Asswipe? Raymond Ambrosini has the same
problem, so yes, it is you. So you aren't 15, you're 50!! Damn, Rayturd,
aren't you a little old for this childish nonsense?

So long Asswipe, I'll post when you make a substantive statement but from
the my experiences of the past, you're too busy clipping and arranging
the
posts of others so your small brain can handle them :-))))))).

LMAO!!!!
This is Skytard from alt.barefoot
I kenw it was him when he had gotten my name and personal information
screwed up.
His style was recognized as well,but it was the name he used that was a
dead
giveaway.
Once I traced the headers they went back to his IP.
He posts over at alt.barefoot under the nic *skywise*
His .jpgs appear to have 9 and 10 year olds in them so any authorities
lurking here then this is your heads up situation.
He will more than likely morph again so I will keep my eyes peeled.
He has also sent threatening E-mails and has been reported to Google.

To which I can only say, ROTFLMAO!! ROTFLMAO!!
.
User: "I dont believe in atheists"

Title: Re: TWO PRIVATE JETS FOR KENNETH COPELAND 17 Aug 2005 10:18:33 AM
"Tom" <mmman_90@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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--
a little philosophy inclineth man's mind to atheism, but depth in
philosophy bringeth men's minds about to religion.
"David Matthieu P.P."
<donotreceivethepentecostalanointing@theyarespiritsofdevilsworkingmiracles.com>
wrote in message news:YBiMe.17808$Rm3.7719@bignews4.bellsouth.net...

Kenneth Copeland wants not one but "two" Cessna Citation X Jets:

http://elitecxteam.org/kenneth/

The basic price tag for one Cessna Citation X's is 17.5 Million
Dollars, so
for these
two jets the followers of Kenneth Copeland must do the math and also
add the
sales tax. For several decades these poor followers will have to work
long
hours and two jobs to pay for the pledges they charged on their credit
cards.
Kenneth Copeland wants not one but "two" Cessna Citation X Jets:

http://elitecxteam.org/kenneth/

The basic price tag for one Cessna Citation X's is 17.5 Million
Dollars, so
for these
two jets the followers of Kenneth Copeland must do the math and also
add the
sales tax. For several decades these poor followers will have to work
long
hours and two jobs to pay for the pledges they charged on their credit
cards.

For some erroneous reason you think this article is an attack on God
and Christianity?
Nothing could be further from the truth....*shrugs*


Here is an attack on you, Asswipe :

"I don't believe in atheists", "Church of the Painful Truth", "Atheist
Bruiser" and others.....these are all names used by the most pitiful of
all
people,
Raymond Ambrosini. Raytard, as most people refer to him, is an internet
troll who is a sad and pathetic individual.

Raytard has told this group that he has a job with a six figure income.
The
truth is that until recently he was unemployed. He is 49 years old and
has
no college degree and it would appear little chance to make a six figure
income.

He might be referring to his job as a pilot. He used this in several
newsgroups he was in and was finally exposed when it was revealed he did
not
have a pilot's license. I was personally in a forum a few years back
when it
was discovered that not only was Raytard( actually I prefer to call him
Rayturd for it better suits him) not a pilot, but all of the experiences
of
his flying was done on Microsoft Flight Simulator. Now that is pathetic
:-)))))))). He said in this forum that we would not guess his occupation
and
I think he was thinking about his Microsoft flying
days :-)))))).

Rayturd has been on a pilot's forum and he was politely told to drop
dead on
that forum.

Rayturd also claims to have a Ph.D. in Science. In his own words he
doesn't
have beyond a two year college degree and does it ever show. If you have
ever corresponded with someone with an education, it shows early and
often.

Rayturd also was on a medical forum where he claimed false credentials.

The numerous names under which he has posted has paralleled his personal
life where he is also known by several names. He has a web site under
the
name Raymond Michael which using his first and middle names.

For anyone really interested in this fascinating troll all that you need
to
do is a search on Raymond Ambrosini. His usual retort to the revelation
of
this deceitful past is to say, "is that who you think I am"? Well, yes
Asswipe, that is who I think you are. Want to know why? You have an
error in
much of your correspondence where you don't leave a space after a comma.
You
will write, " the word needs a comma ,and I'll use one. See how you
don't
have a space after the comma, Asswipe? Raymond Ambrosini has the same
problem, so yes, it is you. So you aren't 15, you're 50!! Damn, Rayturd,
aren't you a little old for this childish nonsense?

So long Asswipe, I'll post when you make a substantive statement but
from
the my experiences of the past, you're too busy clipping and arranging
the
posts of others so your small brain can handle them :-))))))).

LMAO!!!!
This is Skytard from alt.barefoot
I kenw it was him when he had gotten my name and personal information
screwed up.
His style was recognized as well,but it was the name he used that was a
dead
giveaway.
Once I traced the headers they went back to his IP.
He posts over at alt.barefoot under the nic *skywise*
His .jpgs appear to have 9 and 10 year olds in them so any authorities
lurking here then this is your heads up situation.
He will more than likely morph again so I will keep my eyes peeled.
He has also sent threatening E-mails and has been reported to Google.


To which I can only say, ROTFLMAO!! ROTFLMAO!!

Wait till the Feds pick up your sorry ***** you sick Oky ***** :-)
Oh yea...like you say
<Kerplonk> 0)))))
.
User: "Tom"

Title: Re: TWO PRIVATE JETS FOR KENNETH COPELAND 17 Aug 2005 11:32:23 AM
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--
a little philosophy inclineth man's mind to atheism, but depth in
philosophy bringeth men's minds about to religion.
"David Matthieu P.P."
<donotreceivethepentecostalanointing@theyarespiritsofdevilsworkingmiracles.com>
wrote in message news:YBiMe.17808$Rm3.7719@bignews4.bellsouth.net...

Kenneth Copeland wants not one but "two" Cessna Citation X Jets:

http://elitecxteam.org/kenneth/

The basic price tag for one Cessna Citation X's is 17.5 Million
Dollars, so
for these
two jets the followers of Kenneth Copeland must do the math and also
add the
sales tax. For several decades these poor followers will have to work
long
hours and two jobs to pay for the pledges they charged on their
credit
cards.
Kenneth Copeland wants not one but "two" Cessna Citation X Jets:

http://elitecxteam.org/kenneth/

The basic price tag for one Cessna Citation X's is 17.5 Million
Dollars, so
for these
two jets the followers of Kenneth Copeland must do the math and also
add the
sales tax. For several decades these poor followers will have to work
long
hours and two jobs to pay for the pledges they charged on their
credit
cards.

For some erroneous reason you think this article is an attack on God
and Christianity?
Nothing could be further from the truth....*shrugs*


Here is an attack on you, Asswipe :

"I don't believe in atheists", "Church of the Painful Truth", "Atheist
Bruiser" and others.....these are all names used by the most pitiful of
all
people,
Raymond Ambrosini. Raytard, as most people refer to him, is an internet
troll who is a sad and pathetic individual.

Raytard has told this group that he has a job with a six figure income.
The
truth is that until recently he was unemployed. He is 49 years old and
has
no college degree and it would appear little chance to make a six
figure
income.

He might be referring to his job as a pilot. He used this in several
newsgroups he was in and was finally exposed when it was revealed he
did not
have a pilot's license. I was personally in a forum a few years back
when it
was discovered that not only was Raytard( actually I prefer to call him
Rayturd for it better suits him) not a pilot, but all of the
experiences of
his flying was done on Microsoft Flight Simulator. Now that is pathetic
:-)))))))). He said in this forum that we would not guess his
occupation and
I think he was thinking about his Microsoft flying
days :-)))))).

Rayturd has been on a pilot's forum and he was politely told to drop
dead on
that forum.

Rayturd also claims to have a Ph.D. in Science. In his own words he
doesn't
have beyond a two year college degree and does it ever show. If you
have
ever corresponded with someone with an education, it shows early and
often.

Rayturd also was on a medical forum where he claimed false credentials.

The numerous names under which he has posted has paralleled his
personal
life where he is also known by several names. He has a web site under
the
name Raymond Michael which using his first and middle names.

For anyone really interested in this fascinating troll all that you
need to
do is a search on Raymond Ambrosini. His usual retort to the revelation
of
this deceitful past is to say, "is that who you think I am"? Well, yes
Asswipe, that is who I think you are. Want to know why? You have an
error in
much of your correspondence where you don't leave a space after a
comma. You
will write, " the word needs a comma ,and I'll use one. See how you
don't
have a space after the comma, Asswipe? Raymond Ambrosini has the same
problem, so yes, it is you. So you aren't 15, you're 50!! Damn,
Rayturd,
aren't you a little old for this childish nonsense?

So long Asswipe, I'll post when you make a substantive statement but
from
the my experiences of the past, you're too busy clipping and arranging
the
posts of others so your small brain can handle them :-))))))).

LMAO!!!!
This is Skytard from alt.barefoot
I kenw it was him when he had gotten my name and personal information
screwed up.
His style was recognized as well,but it was the name he used that was a
dead
giveaway.
Once I traced the headers they went back to his IP.
He posts over at alt.barefoot under the nic *skywise*
His .jpgs appear to have 9 and 10 year olds in them so any authorities
lurking here then this is your heads up situation.
He will more than likely morph again so I will keep my eyes peeled.
He has also sent threatening E-mails and has been reported to Google.


To which I can only say, ROTFLMAO!! ROTFLMAO!!


Wait till the Feds pick up your sorry ***** you sick Oky ***** :-)
Oh yea...like you say

<Kerplonk> 0)))))

I'm really scared, you lying sack of *****. Look *****, a neighbor in the
next block is an FBI agent. Do you think that I should send him this
succession of emails?
.





User: "Paul Duca"

Title: Re: TWO PRIVATE JETS FOR KENNETH COPELAND 16 Aug 2005 09:45:17 PM
in article grvMe.46$Xh6.2716@news.uswest.net, I don't believe in atheists at
Athiests@Fool.com wrote on 8/16/05 8:22 PM:
To IDB, God is the endless payday to those who succeed in groveling
to Him--and in Heaven, EVERYONE has two private jets and three mansions and
30 vehicles and piles of money, stocks, bonds, jevels, etc.
Paul
.


User: "aaim"

Title: Re: TWO PRIVATE JETS FOR KENNETH COPELAND 17 Aug 2005 09:58:07 PM
David Matthieu P.P. wrote:

Kenneth Copeland wants not one but "two" Cessna Citation X Jets:

http://elitecxteam.org/kenneth/

The basic price tag for one Cessna Citation X's is 17.5 Million Dollars, so
for these
two jets the followers of Kenneth Copeland must do the math and also add the
sales tax. For several decades these poor followers will have to work long
hours and two jobs to pay for the pledges they charged on their credit
cards.
Kenneth Copeland wants not one but "two" Cessna Citation X Jets:

http://elitecxteam.org/kenneth/

The basic price tag for one Cessna Citation X's is 17.5 Million Dollars, so
for these
two jets the followers of Kenneth Copeland must do the math and also add the
sales tax. For several decades these poor followers will have to work long
hours and two jobs to pay for the pledges they charged on their credit
cards.




Interesting web site.
http://elitecxteam.org/kenneth/
.
User: "dwacon."

Title: Re: TWO PRIVATE JETS FOR KENNETH COPELAND 18 Aug 2005 09:42:20 PM
"aaim" <aaim@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3PSMe.3299$FA3.2497@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

David Matthieu P.P. wrote:

Kenneth Copeland wants not one but "two" Cessna Citation X Jets:

http://elitecxteam.org/kenneth/

The basic price tag for one Cessna Citation X's is 17.5 Million Dollars,
so
for these
two jets the followers of Kenneth Copeland must do the math and also add
the
sales tax. For several decades these poor followers will have to work long
hours and two jobs to pay for the pledges they charged on their credit
cards.
Kenneth Copeland wants not one but "two" Cessna Citation X Jets:

http://elitecxteam.org/kenneth/

The basic price tag for one Cessna Citation X's is 17.5 Million Dollars,
so
for these
two jets the followers of Kenneth Copeland must do the math and also add
the
sales tax. For several decades these poor followers will have to work long
hours and two jobs to pay for the pledges they charged on their credit
cards.



Interesting web site.

http://elitecxteam.org/kenneth/


Maybe I'll believe God for one of those for myself!
--
Guaranteed protection from Al-Quaeda
The weapons of our warfare are not carnal...
http://www.cafepress.com/powerpress.11162234
.


User: "VO"

Title: Re: TWO PRIVATE JETS FOR KENNETH COPELAND 16 Aug 2005 08:31:10 PM
Jealous?
"David Matthieu P.P."
<donotreceivethepentecostalanointing@theyarespiritsofdevilsworkingmiracles.com>
wrote in message news:YBiMe.17808$Rm3.7719@bignews4.bellsouth.net...

Kenneth Copeland wants not one but "two" Cessna Citation X Jets:

http://elitecxteam.org/kenneth/

The basic price tag for one Cessna Citation X's is 17.5 Million Dollars,
so
for these
two jets the followers of Kenneth Copeland must do the math and also add
the
sales tax. For several decades these poor followers will have to work long
hours and two jobs to pay for the pledges they charged on their credit
cards.
Kenneth Copeland wants not one but "two" Cessna Citation X Jets:

http://elitecxteam.org/kenneth/

The basic price tag for one Cessna Citation X's is 17.5 Million Dollars,
so
for these
two jets the followers of Kenneth Copeland must do the math and also add
the
sales tax. For several decades these poor followers will have to work long
hours and two jobs to pay for the pledges they charged on their credit
cards.


.
User: "David Matthieu P.P."

Title: Re: TWO PRIVATE JETS FOR KENNETH COPELAND 17 Aug 2005 04:26:19 AM
"VO" <here@overthere.net> wrote in message
news:43029358$0$26329$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com...

Jealous?

Why should anyone be jealous of an Antichrist who made a pact with Satan?
"Let me tell you something folks. Anybody in here that's
ever been sexually abused, listen to me right now. Listen
to me very carefully. The bible's very careful about the
way it says these things. But down there in that dungeon,
Romans, ungodly men, ungodly men, put him (Jesus) to every
kind of abuse that you can think of. There is no sin that
Jesus didn't bare. There is no thing, there is no such thing
as a sexual abuse on somebody that Jesus doesn't know firsthand
what it's all about. He's been where you are, I don't care
what you've been through, Jesus has been through it. And
everything's done to him that we we couldn't even speak of."
(KENNETH COPELAND-The Resurrection Truth)
"It wasn't a physical death on the cross that paid the price for
sin...anybody can do that." (Kenneth Copeland, What Satan Saw on the Day of
Pentecost (Kenneth Copeland, Fort Worth: Messages by Kenneth Copeland, n.d.,
audiotape #BCC-19), side 1.)
Jesus is said to have remarked, "It was a sign of Satan that was hanging on
the cross....I accepted, in my own spirit, spiritual death; and the light
was turned off." (Kenneth Copeland, What Happened from the Cross to the
Throne, side 2.)
Jesus had to "accept the sin nature of Satan." (Kenneth Copeland, What
Happened from the Cross to the Throne, side 2.)
"Satan conquered Jesus on the Cross and took His spirit to the dark regions
of hell" (Kenneth Copeland, Holy Bible: Kenneth Copeland Reference Edition
(Kenneth Copeland, Fort Worth: Kenneth Copeland Ministries, 1991), 129.)
"He [Jesus] allowed the devil to drag Him into the depths of hell....He
allowed Himself to come under Satan's control...every demon in hell came
down on Him to annihilate Him....They tortured Him beyond anything anybody
had ever conceived. For three days He suffered everything there is to
suffer." (Kenneth Copeland, "The Price of It All," 3.)
"How did Jesus then on the cross say, 'My God.' Because God was not His
Father any more. He took upon Himself the nature of Satan. And I'm telling
you Jesus is in the middle of that pit. He's suffering all that there is to
suffer, there is no suffering left . . . apart from Him. His emaciated,
little wormy spirit is down in the bottom of that thing and the devil thinks
He's got Him destroyed. But, all of a sudden God started talking." (Kenneth
Copeland, Believer's Voice of Victory (television program), TBN, 21 April
1991.)
Jesus at His death became one with Satan. (Benny Hinn, Benny Hinn broadcast,
recorded 12/15/90)
"He [Jesus] who is righteous by choice said, 'The only way I can stop sin is
by Me becoming it. I can't just stop it by letting it touch Me; I and it
must become one.' Hear this! He who is the nature of God became the nature
of Satan where He became sin!" (Benny Hinn, TBN, 12/1/90).
"Christ 'became one with the nature of Satan' and was 'born again' in hell"
( Benny Hinn)
"I was shocked when I found out who the biggest failure in
the Bible actually is. Everybody ask you ask "Who's the
biggest failure?" They say "Judas", somebody else will
say "No, I believe it was Adam", well how about the devil.
He's the most consistent failure. But he's not the biggest
in terms of material failure and so forth. The biggest one
in all the Bible is God. What, what, what - don't you turn
that set off - you listen to what. I told you - now you
sit still a minute. You know me well enough to know I
wouldn't, I wouldn't tell something I can't prove from
the Bible." (Kenneth Copeland)
.
User: "VO"

Title: Re: TWO PRIVATE JETS FOR KENNETH COPELAND 17 Aug 2005 10:24:01 AM
"David Matthieu P.P."
<donotreceivethepentecostalanointing@theyarespiritsofdevilsworkingmiracles.com>
wrote in message news:DnDMe.20680$Rm3.2277@bignews4.bellsouth.net...


"VO" <here@overthere.net> wrote in message
news:43029358$0$26329$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com...

Jealous?



Why should anyone be jealous of an Antichrist who made a pact with Satan?

I don't know, but you are.
IF you had limited comments to specifics about teach, it would be for the
thread.
No, you seem obsessed that he has one or more airplanes and you don't.
.
User: "David Matthieu P.P."

Title: Re: KENNETH COPELAND CAN FLY WITHOUT AIRPLANES 17 Aug 2005 01:09:59 PM

I don't know, but you are.

IF you had limited comments to specifics about teach, it would be for the
thread.

No, you seem obsessed that he has one or more airplanes and you don't.

"I felt as if I was lifted up off my bed - not far, maybe one foot or so -
but I felt as if I were floating and hands were holding me. I had no fear
whatsoever - only peace, only joy - and all I could do was "listen with my
heart.and in my mind." (Jan Crouch)
The above words were written by Jan Crouch in the TBN July 2004 Newsletter.
Concerning this strange manifestation Jacky Alnor wrote an interesting
article "Jan Crouch hears voices and Levitates", but was it levitation or an
Out of Body Experience (O.B.E.)?
http://www.cultlink.com/sentinel/crouchvoice.htm
http://www.tbn.org/about/newsletter/index.php/454.html
This mysterious experience of Jan Crouch is also linked to the phenomenon of
Alien Abbudtion. Pastor Benny Hinn knows a lot about this subject of Alien
Abduction, he openly declares that he is visited regularly by supernatural
beings. To make the matter more complicated, Benny Hinn was on TBN, the well
known Christian TV network, and made this unbiblical and highly
controversial declaration:
"Adam had complete dominion over the earth and all it contains.
Adam could fly like a bird.
Adam could swim underwater and breathe like a fish.
Adam went to the moon.
Adam walked on water.
Adam was a super being, He was the first superman that lived.
Adam had dominion over the sun, moon & stars."
http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/quotes.html
Believe me I am well accustomed with all the false prophecies, and erroneous
interpretation of the Bible by Pentecostals and all the Charismatic Crowd,
but I could not figure this one out. How in the world could Pastor Benny
Hinn come up with Adam superman, flying like a bird, and going to the moon?
All this remained a complete mystery to me until I became aware that many
Christians, after receiving the Charismatic and Pentecostal Anointing,
confessed floating out of their bodies and going through partitions and
meeting in space strange beings. Immediately it became Crystal clear, the
only possible explanation for Benny Hinn's assertion concerning Adam having
dominion over the sun, moon and stars is: this famous anointed preacher is
talking by Experience. To converse in such a way on Trinity Broadcasting
Network, he must be personally an expert in this mode of interplanetary or
even intergalactic transportation! I pasted below some interesting
statements of Benny Hinn that can be found in his book "War in the
Heavenlies":
"...the most unusual thing happened. In an instant, I was out of my body. I
assure you I was out of my body. ... I was out of my body. John says also 'I
was in the spirit' which means he was out of the body. I came out of my body
in a split moment. I know exactly what it feels like when you die. Believe
me, you will feel nothing. ... Michael now looks at this angel and asks him
to take care of me, and leaves the room. As he said that, I was straight
back in my body. The Lord gave me that mighty experience. I was now back in
my body, ... I had this experience, please believe me. I did not see the
angels nor hear the angels until I was out of the body." (Benny Hinn)
While the scientists all over the world are striving to develop
sophisticated methods of propulsion to travel faster trough space, many
Pentecostal Ministers and followers are currently traveling astronomical
distances in fractions of second. In their Churches where incredible cases
of spiritual possessions are daily recorded, spiritual entities manifesting
through mystical trances are initiating Pentecostals to breathtaking and
mind-boggling rides into space bypassing or infinitely reducing the time
element. Pastor Kenneth Copeland having a conversation with a spiritual
entity he calls "God" as he was preaching, said these amazing words:
"He said you weren't dying, I said what do you mean I wasn't dying my spirit
was coming out of my body he said that's right you were fixin', he said you
were just about to come out of your body and I was going to allow you to
minister that congregation without your BODY, you were gonna go through that
congregation like a whirlwind, of the power and glory of God." (Kenneth
Copeland)
To a certain extent the person who went trough a near death experience can
somehow relate to these Pentecostal spiritual excursions. The phenomenon is
similar to the out of body experience. However contrarily to the popular
belief, these anointed subjects are not at all in control of their Voyage
throughout the Universe. During their spellbinding journeys they are at all
time under the power of spiritual beings who in a flash lead them through
vertiginous highways unknown to the conventional means of space navigation.
Besides believers attending anointed Churches, there are plenty other folks
who are also having these same experiences. Strangely all individuals who
are not affiliated to a Pentecostal or Charismatic Church acknowledge a past
or present involvement with occult practices. Apparently unable to recognize
the spiritual nature of their experiences, they seem to believe they have
been abducted, and incorrectly identify these supernatural beings as aliens
from out of space.
Scientists investigating these cases made a clever Observation, these
incidents only happen when subjects claiming to be abducted are in their
beds. In spite of systematic inspections of houses where these abductions
supposedly took place, researchers could never find any signs of forced
entry. After meticulous examinations of hundreds of such residences, not
even once there was the least evidence suggesting a fight between the so
called "alien beings" and our human fellows resisting or trying to escape
the invasion. Amazingly these supposed "Extra Terrestrial Beings" after
their sordid incursions, always take great care to bring back safely all
their human captives to the comfort of their beds. Because of all the above
reasons, many investigators are suggesting that this phenomenon may be
caused by a state of stupor they are calling Sleep Paralysis. Nevertheless
these men of science cannot explain why only persons practicing new age,
clairvoyance, Pentecostalism and the adepts initiated to the mystical world
of demonic evocations, can experience what is commonly known as alien
abduction? In the past centuries these abnormal experiences were always
considered to be of demonic Origins, it is only nowadays with the
technological progress that they are classified in the popular category of
Alien Abduction. To share more light on these paranormal appearances, we are
sharing with you this remarkable testimony of a Christian woman visited by
these beings:
http://www.cultlink.com/sentinel/encounter.htm
Other interesting link about demonic manifestations in Pentecostal and
Charismatic Churches:
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/7192/page4.html
.
User: "VO"

Title: Re: KENNETH COPELAND CAN FLY WITHOUT AIRPLANES 17 Aug 2005 01:40:53 PM
"David Matthieu P.P."
<donotreceivethepentecostalanointing@theyarespiritsofdevilsworkingmiracles.com>
wrote in message news:z2LMe.21308$Rm3.8838@bignews4.bellsouth.net...


I don't know, but you are.

IF you had limited comments to specifics about teach, it would be for the
thread.

No, you seem obsessed that he has one or more airplanes and you don't.



"I felt as if I was lifted up off my bed - not far, maybe one foot or so -
but I felt as if I were floating and hands were holding me. I had no fear
whatsoever - only peace, only joy - and all I could do was "listen with my
heart.and in my mind." (Jan Crouch)

Just don't go there.
They are kooks. You give them space.
.





User: "Don - - - - - ---"

Title: Re: TWO PRIVATE JETS FOR KENNETH COPELAND 16 Aug 2005 12:40:24 PM
On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 05:48:04 -0400, "David Matthieu P.P."
<donotreceivethepentecostalanointing@theyarespiritsofdevilsworkingmiracles.com>
wrote:

Kenneth Copeland wants not one but "two" Cessna Citation X Jets:

One night several months ago, Jesse Duplantis strutted across the
stage telling the viewers that God had spoken to him by name, telling
him to get another airplane.
Ain't God good???
I wish God would give me a Ford Excursion Diesel with a tow-package.
I ask him all the time about it.
"We ain't gone be po no mo."
- - Pastor Greg Powe, Atlanta
.

User: "jw"

Title: Re: TWO PRIVATE JETS FOR KENNETH COPELAND 16 Aug 2005 09:15:01 AM
x-no-archive: yes
On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 05:48:04 -0400, "David Matthieu P.P."
<donotreceivethepentecostalanointing@theyarespiritsofdevilsworkingmiracles.com>
wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this
post can be reproduced ANYWHERE w/o expressed written consent of
author

Kenneth Copeland wants not one but "two" Cessna Citation X Jets:

I see nothing wrong with Kenny having two Cessnas, if he can bilk them
out of his "flock."
One Cessna could be having a "bad hair day."
chuckle.
jw


http://elitecxteam.org/kenneth/

The basic price tag for one Cessna Citation X's is 17.5 Million Dollars, so
for these
two jets the followers of Kenneth Copeland must do the math and also add the
sales tax. For several decades these poor followers will have to work long
hours and two jobs to pay for the pledges they charged on their credit
cards.
Kenneth Copeland wants not one but "two" Cessna Citation X Jets:

http://elitecxteam.org/kenneth/

The basic price tag for one Cessna Citation X's is 17.5 Million Dollars, so
for these
two jets the followers of Kenneth Copeland must do the math and also add the
sales tax. For several decades these poor followers will have to work long
hours and two jobs to pay for the pledges they charged on their credit
cards.

.


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