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Topic: Religions > Bible
User: "Egalitarian"
Date: 28 Jan 2007 09:24:51 AM
Object: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !!
There are two ways to get our troops OUT of
Iraq - **NOW** !!
There's a good way and bad way.
First - the BAD way. That's the way it was done
this last week. 43 of them were killed. Thus, fully 43
of them *immediately* got out of Iraq. But the problem
with doing it that way is that it's rough on their families
and probably is rock bottom on the list of priorities that
most soldiers would have by way of methods of redeploy-
ment out of there. And too, it would take 'way too long.
At that rate -- around 5,000 per year -- it would take over
25 years to get them all out of Iraq. Warmonger-in-Thief
Bush is probably the *only* person who'd like to see us
being stuck there for that long.
Then there's the GOOD way: Congress immediately
and with the full force of law totally DE-FUNDS the war,
with the sole exception of the amount of money that it
would take to IMMEDIATELY get **all** of our troops
out of these, and back to America safely. That would
save countless of our soldiers' lives, and enable the
USA to regain some of the respect it lost worldwide
when the a-hole who stole the White House illegally
invaded another sovereign nation after LYING to every-
one in order to CON them into supporting his idiocy.
Some people disagree with the latter method. It
would be interesting to know how many of those same
people also are bone-dumb enough to be RRR Cult
lemmings.
- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
.

User: "Robert"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 12 Feb 2007 10:37:51 AM
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 17:28:11 GMT, BOB <sd@sd.net> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in
news:110220070857318571%dwbarnes@barnsco.com:

In article <Xns98D4588973C84SD@69.28.173.184>, BOB <sd@sd.net> wrote:

Robert <robpar@netportusa.com> wrote in
news:k0lus29930jo22mlp5qqih7ea99qclkecq@4ax.com:

On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 23:52:48 GMT, BOB <sd@sd.net> wrote:

Vouchers are fine with me as long as their cost doesn't come out of
our public taxes and go to private or religious institutions. If
you want someone to subsidize you private or religious education,
try asking

your

church synagogue or mosque to pay for it.


I am atheist, I would remind you that religious people pay taxes,
to
support public schools. And a voucher system that paid the same
amount, for each child enrolled in a school, either private,
religious, or public would be fair.


Sorry but I disagree. Taxes are meant to be used for government
services that benefit_everyone who pay them, regardliess of their
religion or lack of religion. If you want the government to
subsidize private and religious education, it would not be fair to
those who are non-religious.


Furthermore, the voucher system is just another way to assist the well
off while screwing the poor.


My opinion.

As of now parents that make
sacrifices to provide private school for their children, and pay
taxes for public schools, are getting screwed. Regardless of
belief.

No, they can always send their children to a public school for free.
If they choose to send them to private or religious schools, then it
is their obligation to pay the extra cost or find some organization
other than government to subsidize them.


Correct.


My opinion.


Another option might be to find a private or religious organization that
does not charge them for educational opportunities.

Most if not all of them are already over loaded with"scholarship"
students. Many of whom are no longer welcome in the public school
system.
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
.

User: "Joe Irvin"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 11 Feb 2007 12:26:43 PM
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in message
news:110220070857318571%dwbarnes@barnsco.com...

In article <Xns98D4588973C84SD@69.28.173.184>, BOB <sd@sd.net> wrote:

Robert <robpar@netportusa.com> wrote in
news:k0lus29930jo22mlp5qqih7ea99qclkecq@4ax.com:

On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 23:52:48 GMT, BOB <sd@sd.net> wrote:

Vouchers are fine with me as long as their cost doesn't come out of our
public taxes and go to private or religious institutions. If you want
someone to subsidize you private or religious education, try asking

your

church synagogue or mosque to pay for it.


I am atheist, I would remind you that religious people pay taxes, to
support public schools. And a voucher system that paid the same
amount, for each child enrolled in a school, either private,
religious, or public would be fair.


Sorry but I disagree. Taxes are meant to be used for government services
that benefit_everyone who pay them, regardliess of their religion or lack
of religion. If you want the government to subsidize private and
religious education, it would not be fair to those who are non-religious.


Furthermore, the voucher system is just another way to assist the well
off while screwing the poor.

Surely you are jesting ... the well off can send their kids to private
schools ... the poor are already being screwed big time by having to keeep
their kids in govt schools ... look a lots of inter city schools.



My opinion.

As of now parents that make
sacrifices to provide private school for their children, and pay taxes
for public schools, are getting screwed. Regardless of belief.

No, they can always send their children to a public school for free. If
they choose to send them to private or religious schools, then it is
their obligation to pay the extra cost or find some organization other
than government to subsidize them.


Correct.


My opinion.

.
User: "BOB"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 11 Feb 2007 01:16:49 PM
"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in
news:eqnn50$3qb$1@news04.infoave.net:


"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in message
news:110220070857318571%dwbarnes@barnsco.com...

In article <Xns98D4588973C84SD@69.28.173.184>, BOB <sd@sd.net> wrote:

Robert <robpar@netportusa.com> wrote in
news:k0lus29930jo22mlp5qqih7ea99qclkecq@4ax.com:

On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 23:52:48 GMT, BOB <sd@sd.net> wrote:

Vouchers are fine with me as long as their cost doesn't come out
of our public taxes and go to private or religious institutions.
If you want someone to subsidize you private or religious
education, try asking

your

church synagogue or mosque to pay for it.


I am atheist, I would remind you that religious people pay
taxes, to
support public schools. And a voucher system that paid the same
amount, for each child enrolled in a school, either private,
religious, or public would be fair.


Sorry but I disagree. Taxes are meant to be used for government
services that benefit_everyone who pay them, regardliess of their
religion or lack of religion. If you want the government to
subsidize private and religious education, it would not be fair to
those who are non-religious.


Furthermore, the voucher system is just another way to assist the
well off while screwing the poor.


Surely you are jesting ... the well off can send their kids to private
schools ... the poor are already being screwed big time by having to
keeep their kids in govt schools ... look a lots of inter city
schools.


"Government schools"???? So now public education has somehow become
"government schools". You are truly and idiot, JoIrkin.


My opinion.

As of now parents that make
sacrifices to provide private school for their children, and pay
taxes for public schools, are getting screwed. Regardless of
belief.

No, they can always send their children to a public school for free.
If they choose to send them to private or religious schools, then
it is their obligation to pay the extra cost or find some
organization other than government to subsidize them.


Correct.


My opinion.




.
User: "Joe Irvin"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 11 Feb 2007 02:02:54 PM
"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message news:Xns98D472C0BE764SD@69.28.173.184...

"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in
news:eqnn50$3qb$1@news04.infoave.net:


"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in message
news:110220070857318571%dwbarnes@barnsco.com...

In article <Xns98D4588973C84SD@69.28.173.184>, BOB <sd@sd.net> wrote:

Robert <robpar@netportusa.com> wrote in
news:k0lus29930jo22mlp5qqih7ea99qclkecq@4ax.com:

On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 23:52:48 GMT, BOB <sd@sd.net> wrote:

Vouchers are fine with me as long as their cost doesn't come out
of our public taxes and go to private or religious institutions.
If you want someone to subsidize you private or religious
education, try asking

your

church synagogue or mosque to pay for it.


I am atheist, I would remind you that religious people pay
taxes, to
support public schools. And a voucher system that paid the same
amount, for each child enrolled in a school, either private,
religious, or public would be fair.


Sorry but I disagree. Taxes are meant to be used for government
services that benefit_everyone who pay them, regardliess of their
religion or lack of religion. If you want the government to
subsidize private and religious education, it would not be fair to
those who are non-religious.


Furthermore, the voucher system is just another way to assist the
well off while screwing the poor.


Surely you are jesting ... the well off can send their kids to private
schools ... the poor are already being screwed big time by having to
keeep their kids in govt schools ... look a lots of inter city
schools.


"Government schools"???? So now public education has somehow become
"government schools". You are truly and idiot, JoIrkin.

Bob, I'll try to make this easy for you ... its already been established I'm
a bigot, idiot, moron, and chickenhawk ... it doesn't change from post to
post ... so we don't have to be repetitive. Now, states have schools
systems who may recieve aid from teh Fed Govt, ergo govt schools ... not a
hard concept, Bob.

My opinion.

As of now parents that make
sacrifices to provide private school for their children, and pay
taxes for public schools, are getting screwed. Regardless of
belief.

No, they can always send their children to a public school for free.
If they choose to send them to private or religious schools, then
it is their obligation to pay the extra cost or find some
organization other than government to subsidize them.


Correct.


My opinion.





.
User: "BOB"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 11 Feb 2007 02:31:25 PM
"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in
news:eqnspb$a0t$1@news04.infoave.net:


"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
news:Xns98D472C0BE764SD@69.28.173.184...

"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in
news:eqnn50$3qb$1@news04.infoave.net:


"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in message
news:110220070857318571%dwbarnes@barnsco.com...

In article <Xns98D4588973C84SD@69.28.173.184>, BOB <sd@sd.net>
wrote:

Robert <robpar@netportusa.com> wrote in
news:k0lus29930jo22mlp5qqih7ea99qclkecq@4ax.com:

On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 23:52:48 GMT, BOB <sd@sd.net> wrote:

Vouchers are fine with me as long as their cost doesn't come out
of our public taxes and go to private or religious institutions.
If you want someone to subsidize you private or religious
education, try asking

your

church synagogue or mosque to pay for it.


I am atheist, I would remind you that religious people pay
taxes, to
support public schools. And a voucher system that paid the same
amount, for each child enrolled in a school, either private,
religious, or public would be fair.


Sorry but I disagree. Taxes are meant to be used for government
services that benefit_everyone who pay them, regardliess of their
religion or lack of religion. If you want the government to
subsidize private and religious education, it would not be fair to
those who are non-religious.


Furthermore, the voucher system is just another way to assist the
well off while screwing the poor.


Surely you are jesting ... the well off can send their kids to
private schools ... the poor are already being screwed big time by
having to keeep their kids in govt schools ... look a lots of inter
city schools.


"Government schools"???? So now public education has somehow become
"government schools". You are truly and idiot, JoIrkin.


Bob, I'll try to make this easy for you ... its already been
established I'm a bigot,

True

idiot,

Again, true.

moron,

Yep.

and chickenhawk ...

Correct.

it doesn't
change from post to post ...

The truth never changes, JoIrkin.

so we don't have to be repetitive.

Don't have to but enjoying it.

Now,
states have schools systems who may recieve aid from teh Fed Govt,
ergo govt schools ... not a hard concept, Bob.

I have never, never, ever heard of a public school being called a
"government school" JoIrkin (except by you and you are an idiot).
Perhaps you could enlighten us all with some official_documentation
stating where public schools are called "government schools". And by
official_documentation, I don't mean just your interpretation or say so.

My opinion.

As of now parents that make
sacrifices to provide private school for their children, and pay
taxes for public schools, are getting screwed. Regardless of
belief.

No, they can always send their children to a public school for
free.
If they choose to send them to private or religious schools, then
it is their obligation to pay the extra cost or find some
organization other than government to subsidize them.


Correct.


My opinion.








.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 11 Feb 2007 03:07:35 PM
"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message news:Xns98D47F678A143SD@69.28.173.184...

"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in
news:eqnspb$a0t$1@news04.infoave.net:


"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
news:Xns98D472C0BE764SD@69.28.173.184...

"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in
news:eqnn50$3qb$1@news04.infoave.net:


"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in message
news:110220070857318571%dwbarnes@barnsco.com...

In article <Xns98D4588973C84SD@69.28.173.184>, BOB <sd@sd.net>
wrote:

Robert <robpar@netportusa.com> wrote in
news:k0lus29930jo22mlp5qqih7ea99qclkecq@4ax.com:

On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 23:52:48 GMT, BOB <sd@sd.net> wrote:

Vouchers are fine with me as long as their cost doesn't come out
of our public taxes and go to private or religious institutions.
If you want someone to subsidize you private or religious
education, try asking

your

church synagogue or mosque to pay for it.


I am atheist, I would remind you that religious people pay
taxes, to
support public schools. And a voucher system that paid the same
amount, for each child enrolled in a school, either private,
religious, or public would be fair.


Sorry but I disagree. Taxes are meant to be used for government
services that benefit_everyone who pay them, regardliess of their
religion or lack of religion. If you want the government to
subsidize private and religious education, it would not be fair to
those who are non-religious.


Furthermore, the voucher system is just another way to assist the
well off while screwing the poor.


Surely you are jesting ... the well off can send their kids to
private schools ... the poor are already being screwed big time by
having to keeep their kids in govt schools ... look a lots of inter
city schools.


"Government schools"???? So now public education has somehow become
"government schools". You are truly and idiot, JoIrkin.


Bob, I'll try to make this easy for you ... its already been
established I'm a bigot,


True

idiot,


Again, true.

moron,


Yep.

and chickenhawk ...


Correct.

it doesn't
change from post to post ...


The truth never changes, JoIrkin.

so we don't have to be repetitive.


Don't have to but enjoying it.

Now,
states have schools systems who may recieve aid from teh Fed Govt,
ergo govt schools ... not a hard concept, Bob.

I have never, never, ever heard of a public school being called a
"government school" JoIrkin (except by you and you are an idiot).
Perhaps you could enlighten us all with some official_documentation
stating where public schools are called "government schools". And by
official_documentation, I don't mean just your interpretation or say so.

http://www.duffyduffy.com/article.jsp?practArea=46&articleIndex=2
"Public school officials, including teachers and principals, act as
government agents."


My opinion.

As of now parents that make
sacrifices to provide private school for their children, and pay
taxes for public schools, are getting screwed. Regardless of
belief.

No, they can always send their children to a public school for
free.
If they choose to send them to private or religious schools, then
it is their obligation to pay the extra cost or find some
organization other than government to subsidize them.


Correct.


My opinion.









.
User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 11 Feb 2007 06:34:44 PM
In article <It-dnR-MhvgKGFLYnZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d@comcast.com>, Osprey
<NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

I have never, never, ever heard of a public school being called a
"government school" JoIrkin (except by you and you are an idiot).
Perhaps you could enlighten us all with some official_documentation
stating where public schools are called "government schools". And by
official_documentation, I don't mean just your interpretation or say so.



http://www.duffyduffy.com/article.jsp?practArea=46&articleIndex=2

"Public school officials, including teachers and principals, act as
government agents."

LOL! Osprey learned that in Criminal Just 101 and has been dying to
use it.
.


User: "Joe Irvin"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 11 Feb 2007 04:32:35 PM
"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message news:Xns98D47F678A143SD@69.28.173.184...

"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in
news:eqnspb$a0t$1@news04.infoave.net:


"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
news:Xns98D472C0BE764SD@69.28.173.184...

"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in
news:eqnn50$3qb$1@news04.infoave.net:


"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in message
news:110220070857318571%dwbarnes@barnsco.com...

In article <Xns98D4588973C84SD@69.28.173.184>, BOB <sd@sd.net>
wrote:

Robert <robpar@netportusa.com> wrote in
news:k0lus29930jo22mlp5qqih7ea99qclkecq@4ax.com:

On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 23:52:48 GMT, BOB <sd@sd.net> wrote:

Vouchers are fine with me as long as their cost doesn't come out
of our public taxes and go to private or religious institutions.
If you want someone to subsidize you private or religious
education, try asking

your

church synagogue or mosque to pay for it.


I am atheist, I would remind you that religious people pay
taxes, to
support public schools. And a voucher system that paid the same
amount, for each child enrolled in a school, either private,
religious, or public would be fair.


Sorry but I disagree. Taxes are meant to be used for government
services that benefit_everyone who pay them, regardliess of their
religion or lack of religion. If you want the government to
subsidize private and religious education, it would not be fair to
those who are non-religious.


Furthermore, the voucher system is just another way to assist the
well off while screwing the poor.


Surely you are jesting ... the well off can send their kids to
private schools ... the poor are already being screwed big time by
having to keeep their kids in govt schools ... look a lots of inter
city schools.


"Government schools"???? So now public education has somehow become
"government schools". You are truly and idiot, JoIrkin.


Bob, I'll try to make this easy for you ... its already been
established I'm a bigot,


True

idiot,


Again, true.

moron,


Yep.

and chickenhawk ...


Correct.

it doesn't
change from post to post ...


The truth never changes, JoIrkin.

so we don't have to be repetitive.


Don't have to but enjoying it.

Small mind eh?

Now,
states have schools systems who may recieve aid from teh Fed Govt,
ergo govt schools ... not a hard concept, Bob.

I have never, never, ever heard of a public school being called a
"government school" JoIrkin (except by you and you are an idiot).

You should get out a little, Bob, there a whole new world for you out there.

Perhaps you could enlighten us all with some official_documentation
stating where public schools are called "government schools". And by
official_documentation, I don't mean just your interpretation or say so.

Govt schools is all encompassing. Look at your local county/state budget
.... Look under education/school etc budget ... seeee. Now thats either a
county (govt), state (govt) ... and since I was talking about all US govt
supported schools ergo govt schools. Don't think you will find a
document/documentation stating "govt schools" though, but a very simple
concept to follow, even for you, I think.


My opinion.

As of now parents that make
sacrifices to provide private school for their children, and pay
taxes for public schools, are getting screwed. Regardless of
belief.

No, they can always send their children to a public school for
free.
If they choose to send them to private or religious schools, then
it is their obligation to pay the extra cost or find some
organization other than government to subsidize them.


Correct.


My opinion.









.
User: "BOB"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 11 Feb 2007 06:14:15 PM
"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in
news:eqo5i0$jsg$1@news04.infoave.net:


"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
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"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in
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"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
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"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in
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"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in message
news:110220070857318571%dwbarnes@barnsco.com...

In article <Xns98D4588973C84SD@69.28.173.184>, BOB <sd@sd.net>
wrote:

Robert <robpar@netportusa.com> wrote in
news:k0lus29930jo22mlp5qqih7ea99qclkecq@4ax.com:

On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 23:52:48 GMT, BOB <sd@sd.net> wrote:

Vouchers are fine with me as long as their cost doesn't come
out of our public taxes and go to private or religious
institutions. If you want someone to subsidize you private or
religious education, try asking

your

church synagogue or mosque to pay for it.


I am atheist, I would remind you that religious people pay
taxes, to
support public schools. And a voucher system that paid the
same amount, for each child enrolled in a school, either
private, religious, or public would be fair.


Sorry but I disagree. Taxes are meant to be used for government
services that benefit_everyone who pay them, regardliess of
their religion or lack of religion. If you want the government
to subsidize private and religious education, it would not be
fair to those who are non-religious.


Furthermore, the voucher system is just another way to assist the
well off while screwing the poor.


Surely you are jesting ... the well off can send their kids to
private schools ... the poor are already being screwed big time by
having to keeep their kids in govt schools ... look a lots of
inter city schools.


"Government schools"???? So now public education has somehow
become "government schools". You are truly and idiot, JoIrkin.


Bob, I'll try to make this easy for you ... its already been
established I'm a bigot,


True

idiot,


Again, true.

moron,


Yep.

and chickenhawk ...


Correct.

it doesn't
change from post to post ...


The truth never changes, JoIrkin.

so we don't have to be repetitive.


Don't have to but enjoying it.


Small mind eh?

Now,
states have schools systems who may recieve aid from teh Fed Govt,
ergo govt schools ... not a hard concept, Bob.

I have never, never, ever heard of a public school being called a
"government school" JoIrkin (except by you and you are an idiot).


You should get out a little, Bob, there a whole new world for you out
there.

Perhaps you could enlighten us all with some official_documentation
stating where public schools are called "government schools". And by
official_documentation, I don't mean just your interpretation or say
so.


Govt schools is all encompassing. Look at your local county/state
budget ... Look under education/school etc budget ... seeee. Now
thats either a county (govt), state (govt) ... and since I was talking
about all US govt supported schools ergo govt schools. Don't think
you will find a document/documentation stating "govt schools" though,
but a very simple concept to follow, even for you, I think.


Just as we thought JoIrkin, the connotation "government schools" is just an
idiotic expression you made up.

My opinion.

As of now parents that make
sacrifices to provide private school for their children, and
pay taxes for public schools, are getting screwed. Regardless
of belief.

No, they can always send their children to a public school for
free.
If they choose to send them to private or religious schools,
then
it is their obligation to pay the extra cost or find some
organization other than government to subsidize them.


Correct.


My opinion.












.
User: "Joe Irvin"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 11 Feb 2007 06:34:49 PM
"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message news:Xns98D4A530156F0SD@69.28.173.184...

"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in
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"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
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"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in
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In article <Xns98D4588973C84SD@69.28.173.184>, BOB <sd@sd.net>
wrote:

Robert <robpar@netportusa.com> wrote in
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On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 23:52:48 GMT, BOB <sd@sd.net> wrote:

Vouchers are fine with me as long as their cost doesn't come
out of our public taxes and go to private or religious
institutions. If you want someone to subsidize you private or
religious education, try asking

your

church synagogue or mosque to pay for it.


I am atheist, I would remind you that religious people pay
taxes, to
support public schools. And a voucher system that paid the
same amount, for each child enrolled in a school, either
private, religious, or public would be fair.


Sorry but I disagree. Taxes are meant to be used for government
services that benefit_everyone who pay them, regardliess of
their religion or lack of religion. If you want the government
to subsidize private and religious education, it would not be
fair to those who are non-religious.


Furthermore, the voucher system is just another way to assist the
well off while screwing the poor.


Surely you are jesting ... the well off can send their kids to
private schools ... the poor are already being screwed big time by
having to keeep their kids in govt schools ... look a lots of
inter city schools.


"Government schools"???? So now public education has somehow
become "government schools". You are truly and idiot, JoIrkin.


Bob, I'll try to make this easy for you ... its already been
established I'm a bigot,


True

idiot,


Again, true.

moron,


Yep.

and chickenhawk ...


Correct.

it doesn't
change from post to post ...


The truth never changes, JoIrkin.

so we don't have to be repetitive.


Don't have to but enjoying it.


Small mind eh?

Now,
states have schools systems who may recieve aid from teh Fed Govt,
ergo govt schools ... not a hard concept, Bob.

I have never, never, ever heard of a public school being called a
"government school" JoIrkin (except by you and you are an idiot).


You should get out a little, Bob, there a whole new world for you out
there.

Perhaps you could enlighten us all with some official_documentation
stating where public schools are called "government schools". And by
official_documentation, I don't mean just your interpretation or say
so.


Govt schools is all encompassing. Look at your local county/state
budget ... Look under education/school etc budget ... seeee. Now
thats either a county (govt), state (govt) ... and since I was talking
about all US govt supported schools ergo govt schools. Don't think
you will find a document/documentation stating "govt schools" though,
but a very simple concept to follow, even for you, I think.


Just as we thought JoIrkin, the connotation "government schools" is just
an
idiotic expression you made up.

No, not about to take credit for something I didn't do.


My opinion.

As of now parents that make
sacrifices to provide private school for their children, and
pay taxes for public schools, are getting screwed. Regardless
of belief.

No, they can always send their children to a public school for
free.
If they choose to send them to private or religious schools,
then
it is their obligation to pay the extra cost or find some
organization other than government to subsidize them.


Correct.


My opinion.













.
User: "BOB"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 11 Feb 2007 06:56:59 PM
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In article <Xns98D4588973C84SD@69.28.173.184>, BOB <sd@sd.net>
wrote:

Robert <robpar@netportusa.com> wrote in
news:k0lus29930jo22mlp5qqih7ea99qclkecq@4ax.com:

On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 23:52:48 GMT, BOB <sd@sd.net> wrote:

Vouchers are fine with me as long as their cost doesn't come
out of our public taxes and go to private or religious
institutions. If you want someone to subsidize you private
or religious education, try asking

your

church synagogue or mosque to pay for it.


I am atheist, I would remind you that religious people pay
taxes, to
support public schools. And a voucher system that paid the
same amount, for each child enrolled in a school, either
private, religious, or public would be fair.


Sorry but I disagree. Taxes are meant to be used for
government services that benefit_everyone who pay them,
regardliess of their religion or lack of religion. If you
want the government to subsidize private and religious
education, it would not be fair to those who are
non-religious.


Furthermore, the voucher system is just another way to assist
the well off while screwing the poor.


Surely you are jesting ... the well off can send their kids to
private schools ... the poor are already being screwed big time
by having to keeep their kids in govt schools ... look a lots
of inter city schools.


"Government schools"???? So now public education has somehow
become "government schools". You are truly and idiot, JoIrkin.


Bob, I'll try to make this easy for you ... its already been
established I'm a bigot,


True

idiot,


Again, true.

moron,


Yep.

and chickenhawk ...


Correct.

it doesn't
change from post to post ...


The truth never changes, JoIrkin.

so we don't have to be repetitive.


Don't have to but enjoying it.


Small mind eh?

Now,
states have schools systems who may recieve aid from teh Fed Govt,
ergo govt schools ... not a hard concept, Bob.

I have never, never, ever heard of a public school being called a
"government school" JoIrkin (except by you and you are an idiot).


You should get out a little, Bob, there a whole new world for you
out there.

Perhaps you could enlighten us all with some official_documentation
stating where public schools are called "government schools". And
by official_documentation, I don't mean just your interpretation or
say so.


Govt schools is all encompassing. Look at your local county/state
budget ... Look under education/school etc budget ... seeee. Now
thats either a county (govt), state (govt) ... and since I was
talking about all US govt supported schools ergo govt schools.
Don't think you will find a document/documentation stating "govt
schools" though, but a very simple concept to follow, even for you,
I think.


Just as we thought JoIrkin, the connotation "government schools" is
just an
idiotic expression you made up.


No, not about to take credit for something I didn't do.


Don't worry, JoIrkin, there is no "credit" to take. I don't blame you
for not wanting to admit that you made up the silly expression
"government schools".

My opinion.

As of now parents that make
sacrifices to provide private school for their children, and
pay taxes for public schools, are getting screwed.
Regardless of belief.

No, they can always send their children to a public school for
free.
If they choose to send them to private or religious schools,
then
it is their obligation to pay the extra cost or find some
organization other than government to subsidize them.


Correct.


My opinion.
















.
User: "Joe Irvin"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 12 Feb 2007 07:44:57 AM
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In article <Xns98D4588973C84SD@69.28.173.184>, BOB <sd@sd.net>
wrote:

Robert <robpar@netportusa.com> wrote in
news:k0lus29930jo22mlp5qqih7ea99qclkecq@4ax.com:

On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 23:52:48 GMT, BOB <sd@sd.net> wrote:

Vouchers are fine with me as long as their cost doesn't come
out of our public taxes and go to private or religious
institutions. If you want someone to subsidize you private
or religious education, try asking

your

church synagogue or mosque to pay for it.


I am atheist, I would remind you that religious people pay
taxes, to
support public schools. And a voucher system that paid the
same amount, for each child enrolled in a school, either
private, religious, or public would be fair.


Sorry but I disagree. Taxes are meant to be used for
government services that benefit_everyone who pay them,
regardliess of their religion or lack of religion. If you
want the government to subsidize private and religious
education, it would not be fair to those who are
non-religious.


Furthermore, the voucher system is just another way to assist
the well off while screwing the poor.


Surely you are jesting ... the well off can send their kids to
private schools ... the poor are already being screwed big time
by having to keeep their kids in govt schools ... look a lots
of inter city schools.


"Government schools"???? So now public education has somehow
become "government schools". You are truly and idiot, JoIrkin.


Bob, I'll try to make this easy for you ... its already been
established I'm a bigot,


True

idiot,


Again, true.

moron,


Yep.

and chickenhawk ...


Correct.

it doesn't
change from post to post ...


The truth never changes, JoIrkin.

so we don't have to be repetitive.


Don't have to but enjoying it.


Small mind eh?

Now,
states have schools systems who may recieve aid from teh Fed Govt,
ergo govt schools ... not a hard concept, Bob.

I have never, never, ever heard of a public school being called a
"government school" JoIrkin (except by you and you are an idiot).


You should get out a little, Bob, there a whole new world for you
out there.

Perhaps you could enlighten us all with some official_documentation
stating where public schools are called "government schools". And
by official_documentation, I don't mean just your interpretation or
say so.


Govt schools is all encompassing. Look at your local county/state
budget ... Look under education/school etc budget ... seeee. Now
thats either a county (govt), state (govt) ... and since I was
talking about all US govt supported schools ergo govt schools.
Don't think you will find a document/documentation stating "govt
schools" though, but a very simple concept to follow, even for you,
I think.


Just as we thought JoIrkin, the connotation "government schools" is
just an
idiotic expression you made up.


No, not about to take credit for something I didn't do.


Don't worry, JoIrkin, there is no "credit" to take. I don't blame you
for not wanting to admit that you made up the silly expression
"government schools".

Off course you are wrong as usual, but when did the truth every mean
anything to you. Just to show you I did not make up the term look here:
http://boortz.com/more/boortztionary.html Its about the 26th word/words
down the page. Will be waiting for your admission that you were wrong, but
I know it will probably never come.
If you don't want to look the word is: Government school or government
indoctrination center.



My opinion.

As of now parents that make
sacrifices to provide private school for their children, and
pay taxes for public schools, are getting screwed.
Regardless of belief.

No, they can always send their children to a public school for
free.
If they choose to send them to private or religious schools,
then
it is their obligation to pay the extra cost or find some
organization other than government to subsidize them.


Correct.


My opinion.

















.
User: "BOB"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 12 Feb 2007 10:24:40 AM
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In article <Xns98D4588973C84SD@69.28.173.184>, BOB
<sd@sd.net> wrote:

Robert <robpar@netportusa.com> wrote in
news:k0lus29930jo22mlp5qqih7ea99qclkecq@4ax.com:

On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 23:52:48 GMT, BOB <sd@sd.net> wrote:

Vouchers are fine with me as long as their cost doesn't
come out of our public taxes and go to private or
religious institutions. If you want someone to subsidize
you private or religious education, try asking

your

church synagogue or mosque to pay for it.


I am atheist, I would remind you that religious people
pay taxes, to
support public schools. And a voucher system that paid the
same amount, for each child enrolled in a school, either
private, religious, or public would be fair.


Sorry but I disagree. Taxes are meant to be used for
government services that benefit_everyone who pay them,
regardliess of their religion or lack of religion. If you
want the government to subsidize private and religious
education, it would not be fair to those who are
non-religious.


Furthermore, the voucher system is just another way to assist
the well off while screwing the poor.


Surely you are jesting ... the well off can send their kids to
private schools ... the poor are already being screwed big
time by having to keeep their kids in govt schools ... look a
lots of inter city schools.


"Government schools"???? So now public education has somehow
become "government schools". You are truly and idiot, JoIrkin.


Bob, I'll try to make this easy for you ... its already been
established I'm a bigot,


True

idiot,


Again, true.

moron,


Yep.

and chickenhawk ...


Correct.

it doesn't
change from post to post ...


The truth never changes, JoIrkin.

so we don't have to be repetitive.


Don't have to but enjoying it.


Small mind eh?

Now,
states have schools systems who may recieve aid from teh Fed
Govt, ergo govt schools ... not a hard concept, Bob.

I have never, never, ever heard of a public school being called a
"government school" JoIrkin (except by you and you are an idiot).


You should get out a little, Bob, there a whole new world for you
out there.

Perhaps you could enlighten us all with some
official_documentation stating where public schools are called
"government schools". And by official_documentation, I don't
mean just your interpretation or say so.


Govt schools is all encompassing. Look at your local county/state
budget ... Look under education/school etc budget ... seeee. Now
thats either a county (govt), state (govt) ... and since I was
talking about all US govt supported schools ergo govt schools.
Don't think you will find a document/documentation stating "govt
schools" though, but a very simple concept to follow, even for
you, I think.


Just as we thought JoIrkin, the connotation "government schools" is
just an
idiotic expression you made up.


No, not about to take credit for something I didn't do.


Don't worry, JoIrkin, there is no "credit" to take. I don't blame
you for not wanting to admit that you made up the silly expression
"government schools".


Off course you are wrong as usual, but when did the truth every mean
anything to you.

How would you know anything about "truth" JoIrkin? You never practice it.

Just to show you I did not make up the term look
here: http://boortz.com/more/boortztionary.html Its about the 26th
word/words down the page. Will be waiting for your admission that you
were wrong, but I know it will probably never come.

A "Neal Boortz website" is your "objective source"? You've got to be
kidding JoIrkin. Using that as your reference is a joke and you can be
sure I won't accept it as a legitimate. Goes to show everyone what a
dishonest slimebucket you really are JoIrkin.

If you don't want to look the word is: Government school or government
indoctrination center.


Put that "source" where the sun don't shine JoIrkin. It's less than
worthless. You are too.


My opinion.

As of now parents that make
sacrifices to provide private school for their children,
and pay taxes for public schools, are getting screwed.
Regardless of belief.

No, they can always send their children to a public school
for free.
If they choose to send them to private or religious
schools, then
it is their obligation to pay the extra cost or find some
organization other than government to subsidize them.


Correct.


My opinion.




















.
User: "Joe Irvin"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 12 Feb 2007 11:27:06 AM
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In article <Xns98D4588973C84SD@69.28.173.184>, BOB
<sd@sd.net> wrote:

Robert <robpar@netportusa.com> wrote in
news:k0lus29930jo22mlp5qqih7ea99qclkecq@4ax.com:

On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 23:52:48 GMT, BOB <sd@sd.net> wrote:

Vouchers are fine with me as long as their cost doesn't
come out of our public taxes and go to private or
religious institutions. If you want someone to subsidize
you private or religious education, try asking

your

church synagogue or mosque to pay for it.


I am atheist, I would remind you that religious people
pay taxes, to
support public schools. And a voucher system that paid the
same amount, for each child enrolled in a school, either
private, religious, or public would be fair.


Sorry but I disagree. Taxes are meant to be used for
government services that benefit_everyone who pay them,
regardliess of their religion or lack of religion. If you
want the government to subsidize private and religious
education, it would not be fair to those who are
non-religious.


Furthermore, the voucher system is just another way to assist
the well off while screwing the poor.


Surely you are jesting ... the well off can send their kids to
private schools ... the poor are already being screwed big
time by having to keeep their kids in govt schools ... look a
lots of inter city schools.


"Government schools"???? So now public education has somehow
become "government schools". You are truly and idiot, JoIrkin.


Bob, I'll try to make this easy for you ... its already been
established I'm a bigot,


True

idiot,


Again, true.

moron,


Yep.

and chickenhawk ...


Correct.

it doesn't
change from post to post ...


The truth never changes, JoIrkin.

so we don't have to be repetitive.


Don't have to but enjoying it.


Small mind eh?

Now,
states have schools systems who may recieve aid from teh Fed
Govt, ergo govt schools ... not a hard concept, Bob.

I have never, never, ever heard of a public school being called a
"government school" JoIrkin (except by you and you are an idiot).


You should get out a little, Bob, there a whole new world for you
out there.

Perhaps you could enlighten us all with some
official_documentation stating where public schools are called
"government schools". And by official_documentation, I don't
mean just your interpretation or say so.


Govt schools is all encompassing. Look at your local county/state
budget ... Look under education/school etc budget ... seeee. Now
thats either a county (govt), state (govt) ... and since I was
talking about all US govt supported schools ergo govt schools.
Don't think you will find a document/documentation stating "govt
schools" though, but a very simple concept to follow, even for
you, I think.


Just as we thought JoIrkin, the connotation "government schools" is
just an
idiotic expression you made up.


No, not about to take credit for something I didn't do.


Don't worry, JoIrkin, there is no "credit" to take. I don't blame
you for not wanting to admit that you made up the silly expression
"government schools".


Off course you are wrong as usual, but when did the truth every mean
anything to you.


How would you know anything about "truth" JoIrkin? You never practice it.


Just to show you I did not make up the term look
here: http://boortz.com/more/boortztionary.html Its about the 26th
word/words down the page. Will be waiting for your admission that you
were wrong, but I know it will probably never come.


A "Neal Boortz website" is your "objective source"? You've got to be
kidding JoIrkin. Using that as your reference is a joke and you can be
sure I won't accept it as a legitimate. Goes to show everyone what a
dishonest slimebucket you really are JoIrkin.

Hay Airhead Bob I was responding to you, yes you Airhead. This is what I
was responding to ... to quote you: "Don't worry, JoIrkin, there is no
"credit" to take. I don't blame you for not wanting to admit that you made
up the silly expression
"government schools".
You claimed I made up the expression "govt schools" I proved you wrong,
Airhead Bob. I mentioned nothing about an "objective source."
No need to reply Airhead Bob. You are as dishonest as your pal, Honest Ray.

If you don't want to look the word is: Government school or government
indoctrination center.


Put that "source" where the sun don't shine JoIrkin. It's less than
worthless. You are too.

Airhead Bob proved wrong again and is not MAN enough to admit it. ... Guess
you never had any masculine role models in your life ... obviously there
are/were no manly virtues in your life. No reply necessary.

My opinion.

As of now parents that make
sacrifices to provide private school for their children,
and pay taxes for public schools, are getting screwed.
Regardless of belief.

No, they can always send their children to a public school
for free.
If they choose to send them to private or religious
schools, then
it is their obligation to pay the extra cost or find some
organization other than government to subsidize them.


Correct.

My opinion.

.
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Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 12 Feb 2007 11:40:20 AM
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In article <Xns98D4588973C84SD@69.28.173.184>, BOB
<sd@sd.net> wrote:

Robert <robpar@netportusa.com> wrote in
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On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 23:52:48 GMT, BOB <sd@sd.net> wrote:

Vouchers are fine with me as long as their cost doesn't
come out of our public taxes and go to private or
religious institutions. If you want someone to subsidize
you private or religious education, try asking

your

church synagogue or mosque to pay for it.


I am atheist, I would remind you that religious people
pay taxes, to
support public schools. And a voucher system that paid
the same amount, for each child enrolled in a school,
either private, religious, or public would be fair.


Sorry but I disagree. Taxes are meant to be used for
government services that benefit_everyone who pay them,
regardliess of their religion or lack of religion. If you
want the government to subsidize private and religious
education, it would not be fair to those who are
non-religious.


Furthermore, the voucher system is just another way to
assist the well off while screwing the poor.


Surely you are jesting ... the well off can send their kids
to private schools ... the poor are already being screwed
big time by having to keeep their kids in govt schools ...
look a lots of inter city schools.


"Government schools"???? So now public education has somehow
become "government schools". You are truly and idiot,
JoIrkin.


Bob, I'll try to make this easy for you ... its already been
established I'm a bigot,


True

idiot,


Again, true.

moron,


Yep.

and chickenhawk ...


Correct.

it doesn't
change from post to post ...


The truth never changes, JoIrkin.

so we don't have to be repetitive.


Don't have to but enjoying it.


Small mind eh?

Now,
states have schools systems who may recieve aid from teh Fed
Govt, ergo govt schools ... not a hard concept, Bob.

I have never, never, ever heard of a public school being called
a "government school" JoIrkin (except by you and you are an
idiot).


You should get out a little, Bob, there a whole new world for
you out there.

Perhaps you could enlighten us all with some
official_documentation stating where public schools are called
"government schools". And by official_documentation, I don't
mean just your interpretation or say so.


Govt schools is all encompassing. Look at your local
county/state budget ... Look under education/school etc budget
... seeee. Now thats either a county (govt), state (govt) ...
and since I was talking about all US govt supported schools ergo
govt schools. Don't think you will find a document/documentation
stating "govt schools" though, but a very simple concept to
follow, even for you, I think.


Just as we thought JoIrkin, the connotation "government schools"
is just an
idiotic expression you made up.


No, not about to take credit for something I didn't do.


Don't worry, JoIrkin, there is no "credit" to take. I don't blame
you for not wanting to admit that you made up the silly expression
"government schools".


Off course you are wrong as usual, but when did the truth every mean
anything to you.


How would you know anything about "truth" JoIrkin? You never
practice it.


Just to show you I did not make up the term look
here: http://boortz.com/more/boortztionary.html Its about the 26th
word/words down the page. Will be waiting for your admission that
you were wrong, but I know it will probably never come.


A "Neal Boortz website" is your "objective source"? You've got to be
kidding JoIrkin. Using that as your reference is a joke and you can
be sure I won't accept it as a legitimate. Goes to show everyone
what a dishonest slimebucket you really are JoIrkin.


Hay Airhead Bob I was responding to you, yes you Airhead. This is
what I was responding to ... to quote you: "Don't worry, JoIrkin,
there is no "credit" to take. I don't blame you for not wanting to
admit that you made up the silly expression
"government schools".

You claimed I made up the expression "govt schools" I proved you
wrong, Airhead Bob. I mentioned nothing about an "objective source."
No need to reply Airhead Bob. You are as dishonest as your pal,
Honest Ray.

I think every ng reader here can see who the real dishonest slimbbucket
is JoIrkin. You tried to pass off that stupid Neal Boortz website as a
legitimate reference to your silly "government schools" connotation.

If you don't want to look the word is: Government school or
government indoctrination center.


Put that "source" where the sun don't shine JoIrkin. It's less than
worthless. You are too.


Airhead Bob proved wrong again and is not MAN enough to admit it. ...
Guess you never had any masculine role models in your life ...
obviously there are/were no manly virtues in your life. No reply
necessary.

Anyone who would stoop so low as to use that idiotic Neal Boortz website
as a legitimate reference for anything is as dishonest and phony as they
come. How do you live with yourself, JoIrkin? Surely your parents
can't be very proud of the way you turned out. Just when we think you
anti-choice loons can't sink any deeper into the sea of credibility, you
jump in and lower the bar.

My opinion.

As of now parents that make
sacrifices to provide private school for their children,
and pay taxes for public schools, are getting screwed.
Regardless of belief.

No, they can always send their children to a public school
for free.
If they choose to send them to private or religious
schools, then
it is their obligation to pay the extra cost or find some
organization other than government to subsidize them.


Correct.


My opinion.




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User: "Robert"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 12 Feb 2007 11:12:21 AM
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 20:31:25 GMT, BOB <sd@sd.net> wrote:

"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in
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In article <Xns98D4588973C84SD@69.28.173.184>, BOB <sd@sd.net>
wrote:

Robert <robpar@netportusa.com> wrote in
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Now,
states have schools systems who may recieve aid from teh Fed Govt,
ergo govt schools ... not a hard concept, Bob.

I have never, never, ever heard of a public school being called a
"government school" JoIrkin (except by you and you are an idiot).
Perhaps you could enlighten us all with some official_documentation
stating where public schools are called "government schools". And by
official_documentation, I don't mean just your interpretation or say so.

Public= Government. Private means privately funded and regulated by
government.
BOB your are either a idiot, or troll. Filter time.
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User: "Robert"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 12 Feb 2007 10:53:02 AM
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 19:16:49 GMT, BOB <sd@sd.net> wrote:

"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in
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In article <Xns98D4588973C84SD@69.28.173.184>, BOB <sd@sd.net> wrote:

Robert <robpar@netportusa.com> wrote in
news:k0lus29930jo22mlp5qqih7ea99qclkecq@4ax.com:

On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 23:52:48 GMT, BOB <sd@sd.net> wrote:


Surely you are jesting ... the well off can send their kids to private
schools ... the poor are already being screwed big time by having to
keeep their kids in govt schools ... look a lots of inter city
schools.


"Government schools"???? So now public education has somehow become
"government schools". You are truly and idiot, JoIrkin.

No BOB you are the Idiot. Public Education has always been operated
according to Government Regulations.
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User: "Robert"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 12 Feb 2007 10:32:33 AM
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 16:42:12 GMT, BOB <sd@sd.net> wrote:

Robert <robpar@netportusa.com> wrote in
news:k0lus29930jo22mlp5qqih7ea99qclkecq@4ax.com:

On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 23:52:48 GMT, BOB <sd@sd.net> wrote:

Vouchers are fine with me as long as their cost doesn't come out of our
public taxes and go to private or religious institutions. If you want
someone to subsidize you private or religious education, try asking

your

church synagogue or mosque to pay for it.


I am atheist, I would remind you that religious people pay taxes, to
support public schools. And a voucher system that paid the same
amount, for each child enrolled in a school, either private,
religious, or public would be fair.


Sorry but I disagree. Taxes are meant to be used for government services
that benefit_everyone who pay them, regardliess of their religion or lack
of religion. If you want the government to subsidize private and
religious education, it would not be fair to those who are non-religious.

My opinion.

As of now parents that make
sacrifices to provide private school for their children, and pay taxes
for public schools, are getting screwed. Regardless of belief.

No, they can always send their children to a public school for free. If
they choose to send them to private or religious schools, then it is
their obligation to pay the extra cost or find some organization other
than government to subsidize them.

My opinion.

So in your opinion, it's fair to force people to pay for something
they don't want. Either accept the shitty education the government
furnishes, or pay for it, and then pay again for quality education.
Which incidentally I did. You are truly a good Nazi, put your complete
trust in government.
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User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 12 Feb 2007 10:09:02 PM
Robert <robpar@netportusa.com> wrote:

On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 16:42:12 GMT, BOB <sd@sd.net> wrote:

Robert <robpar@netportusa.com> wrote in
news:k0lus29930jo22mlp5qqih7ea99qclkecq@4ax.com:

On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 23:52:48 GMT, BOB <sd@sd.net> wrote:

Vouchers are fine with me as long as their cost doesn't come out of our
public taxes and go to private or religious institutions. If you want
someone to subsidize you private or religious education, try asking

your

church synagogue or mosque to pay for it.


I am atheist, I would remind you that religious people pay taxes, to
support public schools. And a voucher system that paid the same
amount, for each child enrolled in a school, either private,
religious, or public would be fair.


Sorry but I disagree. Taxes are meant to be used for government services
that benefit_everyone who pay them, regardliess of their religion or lack
of religion. If you want the government to subsidize private and
religious education, it would not be fair to those who are non-religious.

My opinion.

As of now parents that make
sacrifices to provide private school for their children, and pay taxes
for public schools, are getting screwed. Regardless of belief.

No, they can always send their children to a public school for free. If
they choose to send them to private or religious schools, then it is
their obligation to pay the extra cost or find some organization other
than government to subsidize them.

My opinion.


So in your opinion, it's fair to force people to pay for something
they don't want.

Isn't that what you're doing? Forcing people to pay taxes for
vouchers?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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User: "osprey"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 10 Feb 2007 12:11:27 PM
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