Religions > Bible > Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !!
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Religions > Bible |
| User: |
"Egalitarian" |
| Date: |
28 Jan 2007 09:24:51 AM |
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Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! |
There are two ways to get our troops OUT of
Iraq - **NOW** !!
There's a good way and bad way.
First - the BAD way. That's the way it was done
this last week. 43 of them were killed. Thus, fully 43
of them *immediately* got out of Iraq. But the problem
with doing it that way is that it's rough on their families
and probably is rock bottom on the list of priorities that
most soldiers would have by way of methods of redeploy-
ment out of there. And too, it would take 'way too long.
At that rate -- around 5,000 per year -- it would take over
25 years to get them all out of Iraq. Warmonger-in-Thief
Bush is probably the *only* person who'd like to see us
being stuck there for that long.
Then there's the GOOD way: Congress immediately
and with the full force of law totally DE-FUNDS the war,
with the sole exception of the amount of money that it
would take to IMMEDIATELY get **all** of our troops
out of these, and back to America safely. That would
save countless of our soldiers' lives, and enable the
USA to regain some of the respect it lost worldwide
when the a-hole who stole the White House illegally
invaded another sovereign nation after LYING to every-
one in order to CON them into supporting his idiocy.
Some people disagree with the latter method. It
would be interesting to know how many of those same
people also are bone-dumb enough to be RRR Cult
lemmings.
- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! |
10 Feb 2007 08:17:40 PM |
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In article <eqlpvt$a41$1@news04.infoave.net>, Joe Irvin
<ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in message
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In article <eqi44c$5sl$1@news04.infoave.net>, Joe Irvin
<ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in message
In article <eqconj$hap$1@news04.infoave.net>, Joe Irvin
<ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in message
news:060220072133189063%dwbarnes@barnsco.com...
In article
<fQcyh.28479$Xq6.17645@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
weatherwax <weatherwax@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
Why has the price of oil at times been at its highest
while
we are there if it was suppose to keep the price of oil
down?
Instability in the region. Bush thought it was going to be
a
cake walk.
Bush actually predicted that oil revenues would pay for the
war
and
the
rebuilding of Iraq. I suspect that oil revenues in the
entire
middle
east
are going into the civil war in Iraq.
The list of incompetent actions by Bush and his cronies is
nearly
endless.
And I've never denied that the present administration has made
many
mistakes.
That minimizes it. They are incompetent and they lied.
I wouldn't say incompetent, I would say he is the 1st President of
the
last
few administrations that has taken the Muslim jihadists seriously.
By invading a country which had nothing to do with "Muslim
jihadists"
and continuing to be allies with those countries that harbor and
promote "Muslim jihadists".
Pay attention Honest Ray, Iraq was invaded because it was thought by
most
everyone that Saddam had WMD's .
Now you resort to outright lying. No, not "most everyone".
'Most everyone" believed Saddam had WMD's, Honest Ray ...
The why didn't the UN allow the invasion?
Because its the business of the UN to taaaaaaaalk.
Like you, eh? Because we sure donıt see you backing up your words,
Chicken Hawk.
Backed up my argument.
That will be the day.
Do you really think Chicken Hawk bothers me?
It is meant to be accurate, not bothersome. You are like most in the
Republican Party, you are scared of your own shadow. Fear and
cowardice run the Republican Party. The Republican Party is afraid of
terrorists, communists, anarchists, environmentalists, homosexuals,
criminals, muslims, jews, drug users, liberals, - you name it.
.
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| User: "Joe Irvin" |
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| Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! |
10 Feb 2007 09:31:17 PM |
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"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in message
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In article <eqlpvt$a41$1@news04.infoave.net>, Joe Irvin
<ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in message
news:100220071557296137%dwbarnes@barnsco.com...
In article <eqi44c$5sl$1@news04.infoave.net>, Joe Irvin
<ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in message
In article <eqconj$hap$1@news04.infoave.net>, Joe Irvin
<ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in message
news:060220072133189063%dwbarnes@barnsco.com...
In article
<fQcyh.28479$Xq6.17645@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
weatherwax <weatherwax@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
Why has the price of oil at times been at its highest
while
we are there if it was suppose to keep the price of
oil
down?
Instability in the region. Bush thought it was going to
be
a
cake walk.
Bush actually predicted that oil revenues would pay for
the
war
and
the
rebuilding of Iraq. I suspect that oil revenues in the
entire
middle
east
are going into the civil war in Iraq.
The list of incompetent actions by Bush and his cronies is
nearly
endless.
And I've never denied that the present administration has
made
many
mistakes.
That minimizes it. They are incompetent and they lied.
I wouldn't say incompetent, I would say he is the 1st President
of
the
last
few administrations that has taken the Muslim jihadists
seriously.
By invading a country which had nothing to do with "Muslim
jihadists"
and continuing to be allies with those countries that harbor and
promote "Muslim jihadists".
Pay attention Honest Ray, Iraq was invaded because it was thought
by
most
everyone that Saddam had WMD's .
Now you resort to outright lying. No, not "most everyone".
'Most everyone" believed Saddam had WMD's, Honest Ray ...
The why didn't the UN allow the invasion?
Because its the business of the UN to taaaaaaaalk.
Like you, eh? Because we sure donıt see you backing up your words,
Chicken Hawk.
Backed up my argument.
That will be the day.
Do you really think Chicken Hawk bothers me?
It is meant to be accurate, not bothersome.
But it is inaccurate, but when did inaccuracy ever matter to some like you
.... the importance is repeating the *lie*, in your mind it then becomes true
.... no connection at all with reality.
You are like most in the
Republican Party, you are scared of your own shadow. Fear and
cowardice run the Republican Party. The Republican Party is afraid of
terrorists, communists, anarchists, environmentalists, homosexuals,
criminals, muslims, jews, drug users, liberals, - you name it.
I speak for myself, not the Republican party ... I recognize the above for
what they are ... I don't pretend, like you and Honest Ray. Snipping my
comments isn't the same as them not existing ... you snip them because they
show your inconsistencies ... you cannot respond to them without showing
your inconsistencies ... you talk the talk but cannot walk the walk ... its
amusing to me to see you squirm. Chickenhawk, quite amusing
.
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! |
10 Feb 2007 09:53:33 PM |
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In article <eqm2m2$jks$1@news04.infoave.net>, Joe Irvin
<ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in message
news:100220071817403071%dwbarnes@barnsco.com...
In article <eqlpvt$a41$1@news04.infoave.net>, Joe Irvin
<ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in message
news:100220071557296137%dwbarnes@barnsco.com...
In article <eqi44c$5sl$1@news04.infoave.net>, Joe Irvin
<ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in message
In article <eqconj$hap$1@news04.infoave.net>, Joe Irvin
<ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in message
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In article
<fQcyh.28479$Xq6.17645@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
weatherwax <weatherwax@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
Why has the price of oil at times been at its highest
while
we are there if it was suppose to keep the price of
oil
down?
Instability in the region. Bush thought it was going to
be
a
cake walk.
Bush actually predicted that oil revenues would pay for
the
war
and
the
rebuilding of Iraq. I suspect that oil revenues in the
entire
middle
east
are going into the civil war in Iraq.
The list of incompetent actions by Bush and his cronies is
nearly
endless.
And I've never denied that the present administration has
made
many
mistakes.
That minimizes it. They are incompetent and they lied.
I wouldn't say incompetent, I would say he is the 1st President
of
the
last
few administrations that has taken the Muslim jihadists
seriously.
By invading a country which had nothing to do with "Muslim
jihadists"
and continuing to be allies with those countries that harbor and
promote "Muslim jihadists".
Pay attention Honest Ray, Iraq was invaded because it was thought
by
most
everyone that Saddam had WMD's .
Now you resort to outright lying. No, not "most everyone".
'Most everyone" believed Saddam had WMD's, Honest Ray ...
The why didn't the UN allow the invasion?
Because its the business of the UN to taaaaaaaalk.
Like you, eh? Because we sure donıt see you backing up your words,
Chicken Hawk.
Backed up my argument.
That will be the day.
Do you really think Chicken Hawk bothers me?
It is meant to be accurate, not bothersome.
But it is inaccurate, but when did inaccuracy ever matter to some like you
... the importance is repeating the *lie*, in your mind it then becomes true
... no connection at all with reality.
Kind of like when you had your ***** handed to you on the whole issue of
the Bush White House pressuring the intel sources for a reason to go to
war. The IG said you were wrong and you didnıt have the maturity to
admit it.
You are like most in the
Republican Party, you are scared of your own shadow. Fear and
cowardice run the Republican Party. The Republican Party is afraid of
terrorists, communists, anarchists, environmentalists, homosexuals,
criminals, muslims, jews, drug users, liberals, - you name it.
I speak for myself, not the Republican party ...
So it is a coincidence that everything you say is a Republican Party
talking point.
I recognize the above for
what they are ... I don't pretend, like you and Honest Ray.
This whole ³Honest Ray² thing is kind of childish, donıt you think? It
would be like us calling you ³Joe Schmoe.² Liberals donıt act that
way. Conservatives do. You should hear some of the goofy things your
buddy Osprey says. (He calls someone whose name is ³Bob,² Boob.
Childish, but it fits him.)
Snipping my
comments isn't the same as them not existing ... you snip them because they
show your inconsistencies ... you cannot respond to them without showing
your inconsistencies ... you talk the talk but cannot walk the walk ... its
amusing to me to see you squirm. Chickenhawk, quite amusing
I snip them because they are the same ***** repeatedly and I am
TIRED of responding to them. Big difference.
.
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| User: "Joe Irvin" |
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| Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! |
11 Feb 2007 12:58:21 PM |
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"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in message
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In article <eqm2m2$jks$1@news04.infoave.net>, Joe Irvin
<ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in message
news:100220071817403071%dwbarnes@barnsco.com...
In article <eqlpvt$a41$1@news04.infoave.net>, Joe Irvin
<ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in message
news:100220071557296137%dwbarnes@barnsco.com...
In article <eqi44c$5sl$1@news04.infoave.net>, Joe Irvin
<ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in message
In article <eqconj$hap$1@news04.infoave.net>, Joe Irvin
<ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in message
news:060220072133189063%dwbarnes@barnsco.com...
In article
<fQcyh.28479$Xq6.17645@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
weatherwax <weatherwax@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
Why has the price of oil at times been at its
highest
while
we are there if it was suppose to keep the price of
oil
down?
Instability in the region. Bush thought it was going
to
be
a
cake walk.
Bush actually predicted that oil revenues would pay for
the
war
and
the
rebuilding of Iraq. I suspect that oil revenues in
the
entire
middle
east
are going into the civil war in Iraq.
The list of incompetent actions by Bush and his cronies
is
nearly
endless.
And I've never denied that the present administration has
made
many
mistakes.
That minimizes it. They are incompetent and they lied.
I wouldn't say incompetent, I would say he is the 1st
President
of
the
last
few administrations that has taken the Muslim jihadists
seriously.
By invading a country which had nothing to do with "Muslim
jihadists"
and continuing to be allies with those countries that harbor
and
promote "Muslim jihadists".
Pay attention Honest Ray, Iraq was invaded because it was
thought
by
most
everyone that Saddam had WMD's .
Now you resort to outright lying. No, not "most everyone".
'Most everyone" believed Saddam had WMD's, Honest Ray ...
The why didn't the UN allow the invasion?
Because its the business of the UN to taaaaaaaalk.
Like you, eh? Because we sure donıt see you backing up your words,
Chicken Hawk.
Backed up my argument.
That will be the day.
Do you really think Chicken Hawk bothers me?
It is meant to be accurate, not bothersome.
But it is inaccurate, but when did inaccuracy ever matter to some like
you
... the importance is repeating the *lie*, in your mind it then becomes
true
... no connection at all with reality.
Kind of like when you had your ***** handed to you on the whole issue of
the Bush White House pressuring the intel sources for a reason to go to
war. The IG said you were wrong and you didnıt have the maturity to
admit it.
Jesting again ... I backed my claims with evidence, while you backed yours
up with what you called evidence ... remember in each article you cited it
wasn't as you said it was and I pointed that out. You backed up your claims
with *****, and not very good ***** at that.
You are like most in the
Republican Party, you are scared of your own shadow. Fear and
cowardice run the Republican Party. The Republican Party is afraid of
terrorists, communists, anarchists, environmentalists, homosexuals,
criminals, muslims, jews, drug users, liberals, - you name it.
I speak for myself, not the Republican party ...
So it is a coincidence that everything you say is a Republican Party
talking point.
I don't read, and have never seen, or even know what the Republican *talking
points* are so if it as you say, then yes it is a coincidence.
I recognize the above for
what they are ... I don't pretend, like you and Honest Ray.
This whole ³Honest Ray² thing is kind of childish, donıt you think? It
would be like us calling you ³Joe Schmoe.² Liberals donıt act that
way. Conservatives do. You should hear some of the goofy things your
buddy Osprey says. (He calls someone whose name is ³Bob,² Boob.
Childish, but it fits him.)
Look, Honest Ray throws in strawmen and doesn't tell the truth all them time
.... responds to things I didn't say or even implied ... Calling him Honest
Ray is just a way to let him know he is fooling no one but himself. His
personal attacks mean nothing and I do find them amusing though ... if it
was the personal attacks only I would never have called him Honest Ray.
Also I can only speak for myself.
Snipping my
comments isn't the same as them not existing ... you snip them because
they
show your inconsistencies ... you cannot respond to them without showing
your inconsistencies ... you talk the talk but cannot walk the walk ...
its
amusing to me to see you squirm. Chickenhawk, quite amusing
I snip them because they are the same ***** repeatedly and I am
TIRED of responding to them. Big difference.
I call a response when one replies, not snips ... but thats just me ... I
guess a snip is a response.
.
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! |
11 Feb 2007 06:34:39 PM |
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In article <eqnp0a$5q8$1@news04.infoave.net>, Joe Irvin
<ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in message
news:100220071953333860%dwbarnes@barnsco.com...
In article <eqm2m2$jks$1@news04.infoave.net>, Joe Irvin
<ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in message
news:100220071817403071%dwbarnes@barnsco.com...
In article <eqlpvt$a41$1@news04.infoave.net>, Joe Irvin
<ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in message
news:100220071557296137%dwbarnes@barnsco.com...
In article <eqi44c$5sl$1@news04.infoave.net>, Joe Irvin
<ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:45cbfd59$0$14136$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:45caa2e9$0$80117$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in message
In article <eqconj$hap$1@news04.infoave.net>, Joe Irvin
<ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in message
news:060220072133189063%dwbarnes@barnsco.com...
In article
<fQcyh.28479$Xq6.17645@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
weatherwax <weatherwax@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
Why has the price of oil at times been at its
highest
while
we are there if it was suppose to keep the price of
oil
down?
Instability in the region. Bush thought it was going
to
be
a
cake walk.
Bush actually predicted that oil revenues would pay for
the
war
and
the
rebuilding of Iraq. I suspect that oil revenues in
the
entire
middle
east
are going into the civil war in Iraq.
The list of incompetent actions by Bush and his cronies
is
nearly
endless.
And I've never denied that the present administration has
made
many
mistakes.
That minimizes it. They are incompetent and they lied.
I wouldn't say incompetent, I would say he is the 1st
President
of
the
last
few administrations that has taken the Muslim jihadists
seriously.
By invading a country which had nothing to do with "Muslim
jihadists"
and continuing to be allies with those countries that harbor
and
promote "Muslim jihadists".
Pay attention Honest Ray, Iraq was invaded because it was
thought
by
most
everyone that Saddam had WMD's .
Now you resort to outright lying. No, not "most everyone".
'Most everyone" believed Saddam had WMD's, Honest Ray ...
The why didn't the UN allow the invasion?
Because its the business of the UN to taaaaaaaalk.
Like you, eh? Because we sure donıt see you backing up your words,
Chicken Hawk.
Backed up my argument.
That will be the day.
Do you really think Chicken Hawk bothers me?
It is meant to be accurate, not bothersome.
But it is inaccurate, but when did inaccuracy ever matter to some like
you
... the importance is repeating the *lie*, in your mind it then becomes
true
... no connection at all with reality.
Kind of like when you had your ***** handed to you on the whole issue of
the Bush White House pressuring the intel sources for a reason to go to
war. The IG said you were wrong and you didnıt have the maturity to
admit it.
Jesting again ... I backed my claims with evidence, while you backed yours
up with what you called evidence ...
Well maybe you should call the IG because they sided with me.
remember in each article you cited it
wasn't as you said it was and I pointed that out. You backed up your claims
with *****, and not very good ***** at that.\
Yeah you know better that the IG
You are like most in the
Republican Party, you are scared of your own shadow. Fear and
cowardice run the Republican Party. The Republican Party is afraid of
terrorists, communists, anarchists, environmentalists, homosexuals,
criminals, muslims, jews, drug users, liberals, - you name it.
I speak for myself, not the Republican party ...
So it is a coincidence that everything you say is a Republican Party
talking point.
I don't read, and have never seen, or even know what the Republican *talking
points* are so if it as you say, then yes it is a coincidence.
Watch Fox ³NEWS²
I recognize the above for
what they are ... I don't pretend, like you and Honest Ray.
This whole ³Honest Ray² thing is kind of childish, donıt you think? It
would be like us calling you ³Joe Schmoe.² Liberals donıt act that
way. Conservatives do. You should hear some of the goofy things your
buddy Osprey says. (He calls someone whose name is ³Bob,² Boob.
Childish, but it fits him.)
Look, Honest Ray throws in strawmen and doesn't tell the truth all them time
... responds to things I didn't say or even implied ... Calling him Honest
Ray is just a way to let him know he is fooling no one but himself.
Actually, it is a way of diminishing your credability.
His
personal attacks mean nothing and I do find them amusing though ... if it
was the personal attacks only I would never have called him Honest Ray.
Also I can only speak for myself.
Still childish.
Snipping my
comments isn't the same as them not existing ... you snip them because
they
show your inconsistencies ... you cannot respond to them without showing
your inconsistencies ... you talk the talk but cannot walk the walk ...
its
amusing to me to see you squirm. Chickenhawk, quite amusing
I snip them because they are the same ***** repeatedly and I am
TIRED of responding to them. Big difference.
I call a response when one replies, not snips ... but thats just me ... I
guess a snip is a response.
.
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| Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! |
12 Feb 2007 08:06:17 AM |
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"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in message
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In article <eqnp0a$5q8$1@news04.infoave.net>, Joe Irvin
<ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
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<ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
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<ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
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<ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
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Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
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Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in message
In article <eqconj$hap$1@news04.infoave.net>, Joe Irvin
<ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in
message
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In article
<fQcyh.28479$Xq6.17645@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
weatherwax <weatherwax@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
Why has the price of oil at times been at its
highest
while
we are there if it was suppose to keep the price
of
oil
down?
Instability in the region. Bush thought it was
going
to
be
a
cake walk.
Bush actually predicted that oil revenues would pay
for
the
war
and
the
rebuilding of Iraq. I suspect that oil revenues in
the
entire
middle
east
are going into the civil war in Iraq.
The list of incompetent actions by Bush and his
cronies
is
nearly
endless.
And I've never denied that the present administration
has
made
many
mistakes.
That minimizes it. They are incompetent and they lied.
I wouldn't say incompetent, I would say he is the 1st
President
of
the
last
few administrations that has taken the Muslim jihadists
seriously.
By invading a country which had nothing to do with "Muslim
jihadists"
and continuing to be allies with those countries that
harbor
and
promote "Muslim jihadists".
Pay attention Honest Ray, Iraq was invaded because it was
thought
by
most
everyone that Saddam had WMD's .
Now you resort to outright lying. No, not "most everyone".
'Most everyone" believed Saddam had WMD's, Honest Ray ...
The why didn't the UN allow the invasion?
Because its the business of the UN to taaaaaaaalk.
Like you, eh? Because we sure donıt see you backing up your
words,
Chicken Hawk.
Backed up my argument.
That will be the day.
Do you really think Chicken Hawk bothers me?
It is meant to be accurate, not bothersome.
But it is inaccurate, but when did inaccuracy ever matter to some like
you
... the importance is repeating the *lie*, in your mind it then
becomes
true
... no connection at all with reality.
Kind of like when you had your ***** handed to you on the whole issue of
the Bush White House pressuring the intel sources for a reason to go to
war. The IG said you were wrong and you didnıt have the maturity to
admit it.
Jesting again ... I backed my claims with evidence, while you backed
yours
up with what you called evidence ...
Well maybe you should call the IG because they sided with me.
Cites
remember in each article you cited it
wasn't as you said it was and I pointed that out. You backed up your
claims
with *****, and not very good ***** at that.\
Yeah you know better that the IG
Never claimed that ... cites from the IG backing you claim the Prez
lied/manipulated intell he showed Congress? You don't have to respond if
you have no cites
You are like most in the
Republican Party, you are scared of your own shadow. Fear and
cowardice run the Republican Party. The Republican Party is afraid
of
terrorists, communists, anarchists, environmentalists, homosexuals,
criminals, muslims, jews, drug users, liberals, - you name it.
I speak for myself, not the Republican party ...
So it is a coincidence that everything you say is a Republican Party
talking point.
I don't read, and have never seen, or even know what the Republican
*talking
points* are so if it as you say, then yes it is a coincidence.
Watch Fox ³NEWS²
Cites with evidence Fox news uses Republican Party talking points ... Dont
respond unless yu have cites
I recognize the above for
what they are ... I don't pretend, like you and Honest Ray.
This whole ³Honest Ray² thing is kind of childish, donıt you think? It
would be like us calling you ³Joe Schmoe.² Liberals donıt act that
way. Conservatives do. You should hear some of the goofy things your
buddy Osprey says. (He calls someone whose name is ³Bob,² Boob.
Childish, but it fits him.)
Look, Honest Ray throws in strawmen and doesn't tell the truth all them
time
... responds to things I didn't say or even implied ... Calling him
Honest
Ray is just a way to let him know he is fooling no one but himself.
Actually, it is a way of diminishing your credability.
His
personal attacks mean nothing and I do find them amusing though ... if it
was the personal attacks only I would never have called him Honest Ray.
Also I can only speak for myself.
Still childish.
Snipping my
comments isn't the same as them not existing ... you snip them because
they
show your inconsistencies ... you cannot respond to them without
showing
your inconsistencies ... you talk the talk but cannot walk the walk
...
its
amusing to me to see you squirm. Chickenhawk, quite amusing
I snip them because they are the same ***** repeatedly and I am
TIRED of responding to them. Big difference.
I call a response when one replies, not snips ... but thats just me ... I
guess a snip is a response.
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! |
12 Feb 2007 09:50:50 AM |
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In article <eqps8l$h7m$1@news04.infoave.net>, Joe Irvin
<ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in message
news:110220071634396490%dwbarnes@barnsco.com...
In article <eqnp0a$5q8$1@news04.infoave.net>, Joe Irvin
<ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in message
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In article <eqm2m2$jks$1@news04.infoave.net>, Joe Irvin
<ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in message
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In article <eqlpvt$a41$1@news04.infoave.net>, Joe Irvin
<ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in message
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In article <eqi44c$5sl$1@news04.infoave.net>, Joe Irvin
<ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in message
In article <eqconj$hap$1@news04.infoave.net>, Joe Irvin
<ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in
message
news:060220072133189063%dwbarnes@barnsco.com...
In article
<fQcyh.28479$Xq6.17645@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
weatherwax <weatherwax@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
Why has the price of oil at times been at its
highest
while
we are there if it was suppose to keep the price
of
oil
down?
Instability in the region. Bush thought it was
going
to
be
a
cake walk.
Bush actually predicted that oil revenues would pay
for
the
war
and
the
rebuilding of Iraq. I suspect that oil revenues in
the
entire
middle
east
are going into the civil war in Iraq.
The list of incompetent actions by Bush and his
cronies
is
nearly
endless.
And I've never denied that the present administration
has
made
many
mistakes.
That minimizes it. They are incompetent and they lied.
I wouldn't say incompetent, I would say he is the 1st
President
of
the
last
few administrations that has taken the Muslim jihadists
seriously.
By invading a country which had nothing to do with "Muslim
jihadists"
and continuing to be allies with those countries that
harbor
and
promote "Muslim jihadists".
Pay attention Honest Ray, Iraq was invaded because it was
thought
by
most
everyone that Saddam had WMD's .
Now you resort to outright lying. No, not "most everyone".
'Most everyone" believed Saddam had WMD's, Honest Ray ...
The why didn't the UN allow the invasion?
Because its the business of the UN to taaaaaaaalk.
Like you, eh? Because we sure donıt see you backing up your
words,
Chicken Hawk.
Backed up my argument.
That will be the day.
Do you really think Chicken Hawk bothers me?
It is meant to be accurate, not bothersome.
But it is inaccurate, but when did inaccuracy ever matter to some like
you
... the importance is repeating the *lie*, in your mind it then
becomes
true
... no connection at all with reality.
Kind of like when you had your ***** handed to you on the whole issue of
the Bush White House pressuring the intel sources for a reason to go to
war. The IG said you were wrong and you didnıt have the maturity to
admit it.
Jesting again ... I backed my claims with evidence, while you backed
yours
up with what you called evidence ...
Well maybe you should call the IG because they sided with me.
Cites
I already provided them. Is this really the best you can do? Keep
asking the same crap? See below for more proof.
remember in each article you cited it
wasn't as you said it was and I pointed that out. You backed up your
claims
with *****, and not very good ***** at that.\
Yeah you know better that the IG
Never claimed that ... cites from the IG backing you claim the Prez
lied/manipulated intell he showed Congress? You don't have to respond if
you have no cites
Or if you could just read the previous cites.
<http://www.newsdaily.com/TopNews/UPI-1-20070209-17175100-bc-us-intel.xm
l>
<http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070209/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/iraq_pentagon_int
elligence>
<http://www.americanchronicle.com/AMchronDefault.asp>
Many others - look it up yourself.
You are like most in the
Republican Party, you are scared of your own shadow. Fear and
cowardice run the Republican Party. The Republican Party is afraid
of
terrorists, communists, anarchists, environmentalists, homosexuals,
criminals, muslims, jews, drug users, liberals, - you name it.
I speak for myself, not the Republican party ...
So it is a coincidence that everything you say is a Republican Party
talking point.
I don't read, and have never seen, or even know what the Republican
*talking
points* are so if it as you say, then yes it is a coincidence.
Watch Fox ³NEWS²
Cites with evidence Fox news uses Republican Party talking points ... Dont
respond unless yu have cites
<http://mediamatters.org/items/200407140002>
I recognize the above for
what they are ... I don't pretend, like you and Honest Ray.
This whole ³Honest Ray² thing is kind of childish, donıt you think? It
would be like us calling you ³Joe Schmoe.² Liberals donıt act that
way. Conservatives do. You should hear some of the goofy things your
buddy Osprey says. (He calls someone whose name is ³Bob,² Boob.
Childish, but it fits him.)
Look, Honest Ray throws in strawmen and doesn't tell the truth all them
time
... responds to things I didn't say or even implied ... Calling him
Honest
Ray is just a way to let him know he is fooling no one but himself.
Actually, it is a way of diminishing your credability.
His
personal attacks mean nothing and I do find them amusing though ... if it
was the personal attacks only I would never have called him Honest Ray.
Also I can only speak for myself.
Still childish.
Snipping my
comments isn't the same as them not existing ... you snip them because
they
show your inconsistencies ... you cannot respond to them without
showing
your inconsistencies ... you talk the talk but cannot walk the walk
...
its
amusing to me to see you squirm. Chickenhawk, quite amusing
I snip them because they are the same ***** repeatedly and I am
TIRED of responding to them. Big difference.
I call a response when one replies, not snips ... but thats just me ... I
guess a snip is a response.
.
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| User: "Joe Irvin" |
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| Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! |
12 Feb 2007 10:48:11 AM |
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"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in message
news:120220070750505850%dwbarnes@barnsco.com...
In article <eqps8l$h7m$1@news04.infoave.net>, Joe Irvin
<ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in message
news:110220071634396490%dwbarnes@barnsco.com...
In article <eqnp0a$5q8$1@news04.infoave.net>, Joe Irvin
<ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in message
news:100220071953333860%dwbarnes@barnsco.com...
In article <eqm2m2$jks$1@news04.infoave.net>, Joe Irvin
<ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in message
news:100220071817403071%dwbarnes@barnsco.com...
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<ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in message
news:100220071557296137%dwbarnes@barnsco.com...
In article <eqi44c$5sl$1@news04.infoave.net>, Joe Irvin
<ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in
message
In article <eqconj$hap$1@news04.infoave.net>, Joe
Irvin
<ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in
message
news:060220072133189063%dwbarnes@barnsco.com...
In article
<fQcyh.28479$Xq6.17645@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
weatherwax <weatherwax@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
Why has the price of oil at times been at its
highest
while
we are there if it was suppose to keep the
price
of
oil
down?
Instability in the region. Bush thought it was
going
to
be
a
cake walk.
Bush actually predicted that oil revenues would
pay
for
the
war
and
the
rebuilding of Iraq. I suspect that oil revenues
in
the
entire
middle
east
are going into the civil war in Iraq.
The list of incompetent actions by Bush and his
cronies
is
nearly
endless.
And I've never denied that the present
administration
has
made
many
mistakes.
That minimizes it. They are incompetent and they
lied.
I wouldn't say incompetent, I would say he is the 1st
President
of
the
last
few administrations that has taken the Muslim jihadists
seriously.
By invading a country which had nothing to do with
"Muslim
jihadists"
and continuing to be allies with those countries that
harbor
and
promote "Muslim jihadists".
Pay attention Honest Ray, Iraq was invaded because it
was
thought
by
most
everyone that Saddam had WMD's .
Now you resort to outright lying. No, not "most
everyone".
'Most everyone" believed Saddam had WMD's, Honest Ray ...
The why didn't the UN allow the invasion?
Because its the business of the UN to taaaaaaaalk.
Like you, eh? Because we sure donıt see you backing up your
words,
Chicken Hawk.
Backed up my argument.
That will be the day.
Do you really think Chicken Hawk bothers me?
It is meant to be accurate, not bothersome.
But it is inaccurate, but when did inaccuracy ever matter to some
like
you
... the importance is repeating the *lie*, in your mind it then
becomes
true
... no connection at all with reality.
Kind of like when you had your ***** handed to you on the whole issue
of
the Bush White House pressuring the intel sources for a reason to go
to
war. The IG said you were wrong and you didnıt have the maturity to
admit it.
Jesting again ... I backed my claims with evidence, while you backed
yours
up with what you called evidence ...
Well maybe you should call the IG because they sided with me.
Cites
I already provided them. Is this really the best you can do? Keep
asking the same crap? See below for more proof.
remember in each article you cited it
wasn't as you said it was and I pointed that out. You backed up your
claims
with *****, and not very good ***** at that.\
Yeah you know better that the IG
Never claimed that ... cites from the IG backing you claim the Prez
lied/manipulated intell he showed Congress? You don't have to respond if
you have no cites
Or if you could just read the previous cites.
<http://www.newsdaily.com/TopNews/UPI-1-20070209-17175100-bc-us-intel.xm
Couldn't connect to a web page.
<http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070209/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/iraq_pentagon_int
elligence>
Couldn't connect ot a web page.
<http://www.americanchronicle.com/AMchronDefault.asp>
Many others - look it up yourself.
The American Chronicle was just the repeat of the NPR article I've already
answered. Big YAWN
You are like most in the
Republican Party, you are scared of your own shadow. Fear and
cowardice run the Republican Party. The Republican Party is
afraid
of
terrorists, communists, anarchists, environmentalists,
homosexuals,
criminals, muslims, jews, drug users, liberals, - you name it.
I speak for myself, not the Republican party ...
So it is a coincidence that everything you say is a Republican Party
talking point.
I don't read, and have never seen, or even know what the Republican
*talking
points* are so if it as you say, then yes it is a coincidence.
Watch Fox ³NEWS²
Cites with evidence Fox news uses Republican Party talking points ...
Dont
respond unless yu have cites
<http://mediamatters.org/items/200407140002>
John Moody is the Serior VP of the News & Editorial direction at Fox News.
Before that he worked at TIME magazine certainly no right wing magazine.
Still haven't showed where Fox has repeated the Repulican talking points any
more than any others stations including Fox repeat Democratic talking points
.... This is really getting old.
I recognize the above for
what they are ... I don't pretend, like you and Honest Ray.
This whole ³Honest Ray² thing is kind of childish, donıt you think?
It
would be like us calling you ³Joe Schmoe.² Liberals donıt act that
way. Conservatives do. You should hear some of the goofy things
your
buddy Osprey says. (He calls someone whose name is ³Bob,² Boob.
Childish, but it fits him.)
Look, Honest Ray throws in strawmen and doesn't tell the truth all
them
time
... responds to things I didn't say or even implied ... Calling him
Honest
Ray is just a way to let him know he is fooling no one but himself.
Actually, it is a way of diminishing your credability.
His
personal attacks mean nothing and I do find them amusing though ... if
it
was the personal attacks only I would never have called him Honest
Ray.
Also I can only speak for myself.
Still childish.
Snipping my
comments isn't the same as them not existing ... you snip them
because
they
show your inconsistencies ... you cannot respond to them without
showing
your inconsistencies ... you talk the talk but cannot walk the walk
...
its
amusing to me to see you squirm. Chickenhawk, quite amusing
I snip them because they are the same ***** repeatedly and I am
TIRED of responding to them. Big difference.
I call a response when one replies, not snips ... but thats just me
... I
guess a snip is a response.
I'm done ... you are starting to offer the same stories/articles printed in
different mags/newpapers/websites. It doesn't work.
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! |
12 Feb 2007 11:20:58 PM |
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In article <eqq5o8$rho$1@news04.infoave.net>, Joe Irvin
<ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
I'm done ... you are starting to offer the same stories/articles printed in
different mags/newpapers/websites. It doesn't work.
Truth tends to be repetitive. It doesnıt change. Only liars can be
creative with the facts.
But run off. I think it fits you.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! |
09 Feb 2007 10:31:29 AM |
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Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
I wouldn't say incompetent, I would say he is the 1st President of the
last
few administrations that has taken the Muslim jihadists seriously.
By invading a country which had nothing to do with "Muslim jihadists"
and continuing to be allies with those countries that harbor and
promote "Muslim jihadists".
Pay attention Honest Ray, Iraq was invaded because it was thought by
most
everyone that Saddam had WMD's .
Now you resort to outright lying. No, not "most everyone".
'Most everyone" believed Saddam had WMD's, Honest Ray ...
The why didn't the UN allow the invasion?
Because its the business of the UN to taaaaaaaalk.
That's a pathetic evasion. If "Most everyone" thought that Iraq was a
threat then why did the UN Security Council refuse to give permission
to the US for an invasion?
Why hasn't the UN
intervened in Sudan?
You're changing the subject. I didn't ask about any action. I asked
about agreement which you say existed.
Few
people in fact. Most everyone wanted to let the UN inspectors do
their job.
This may be true, but we would still be talking today most probably ...
And there would be 250,000 people who would not be dead.
I agree that its to bad anyone had to die.
Unless they're Muslims, of course.
That is the trouble with
you guys you want to talk .
And you want to kill.
You are to the root of the problem ...
Like terrorists you love to blame other people for your wish to kill.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Joe Irvin" |
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| Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! |
09 Feb 2007 12:28:36 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:45cca1e1$0$14142$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
I wouldn't say incompetent, I would say he is the 1st President of
the
last
few administrations that has taken the Muslim jihadists seriously.
By invading a country which had nothing to do with "Muslim
jihadists"
and continuing to be allies with those countries that harbor and
promote "Muslim jihadists".
Pay attention Honest Ray, Iraq was invaded because it was thought by
most
everyone that Saddam had WMD's .
Now you resort to outright lying. No, not "most everyone".
'Most everyone" believed Saddam had WMD's, Honest Ray ...
The why didn't the UN allow the invasion?
Because its the business of the UN to taaaaaaaalk.
That's a pathetic evasion. If "Most everyone" thought that Iraq was a
threat then why did the UN Security Council refuse to give permission
to the US for an invasion?
Because its a crooked organization, number 1. The US doesn't have to put
its security in the hands of these crooks. The last reason is good enough
for me.
Why hasn't the UN
intervened in Sudan?
You're changing the subject. I didn't ask about any action. I asked
about agreement which you say existed.
It exists, Honest Ray. The war just didn't stop because everyone just
stopped fighting.
Few
people in fact. Most everyone wanted to let the UN inspectors do
their job.
This may be true, but we would still be talking today most probably ...
And there would be 250,000 people who would not be dead.
I agree that its to bad anyone had to die.
Unless they're Muslims, of course.
That is the trouble with
you guys you want to talk .
And you want to kill.
You are to the root of the problem ...
Like terrorists you love to blame other people for your wish to kill.
Yes, Honest Ray thats it.
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Ray Fischer
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09 Feb 2007 01:06:54 PM |
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Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
I wouldn't say incompetent, I would say he is the 1st President of
the
last
few administrations that has taken the Muslim jihadists seriously.
By invading a country which had nothing to do with "Muslim
jihadists"
and continuing to be allies with those countries that harbor and
promote "Muslim jihadists".
Pay attention Honest Ray, Iraq was invaded because it was thought by
most
everyone that Saddam had WMD's .
Now you resort to outright lying. No, not "most everyone".
'Most everyone" believed Saddam had WMD's, Honest Ray ...
The why didn't the UN allow the invasion?
Because its the business of the UN to taaaaaaaalk.
That's a pathetic evasion. If "Most everyone" thought that Iraq was a
threat then why did the UN Security Council refuse to give permission
to the US for an invasion?
Because its a crooked organization, number 1.
Ad hominem.
The US doesn't have to put
its security in the hands of these crooks.
You prefer to put your security into the hands of the cxrooks in
Washington.
The last reason is good enough
for me.
In short, you're a stupid bigot.
Why hasn't the UN
intervened in Sudan?
You're changing the subject. I didn't ask about any action. I asked
about agreement which you say existed.
It exists, Honest Ray.
Now you're just lying stupidly. There was no agreement of a threat at the UN.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! |
09 Feb 2007 01:36:26 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
I wouldn't say incompetent, I would say he is the 1st President of
the
last
few administrations that has taken the Muslim jihadists seriously.
By invading a country which had nothing to do with "Muslim
jihadists"
and continuing to be allies with those countries that harbor and
promote "Muslim jihadists".
Pay attention Honest Ray, Iraq was invaded because it was thought
by
most
everyone that Saddam had WMD's .
Now you resort to outright lying. No, not "most everyone".
'Most everyone" believed Saddam had WMD's, Honest Ray ...
The why didn't the UN allow the invasion?
Because its the business of the UN to taaaaaaaalk.
That's a pathetic evasion. If "Most everyone" thought that Iraq was a
threat then why did the UN Security Council refuse to give permission
to the US for an invasion?
Because its a crooked organization, number 1.
Ad hominem.
Its true, Honest Ray even if you ignore it.
The US doesn't have to put
its security in the hands of these crooks.
You prefer to put your security into the hands of the cxrooks in
Washington.
No, crooks are crooks, whether in Washington or the UN.
The last reason is good enough
for me.
In short, you're a stupid bigot.
Why hasn't the UN
intervened in Sudan?
You're changing the subject. I didn't ask about any action. I asked
about agreement which you say existed.
It exists, Honest Ray.
Now you're just lying stupidly. There was no agreement of a threat at the
UN.
Just in your dreams, Honest Ray.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! |
09 Feb 2007 09:20:08 PM |
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Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:45ccc64e$0$14062$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
I wouldn't say incompetent, I would say he is the 1st President of
the
last
few administrations that has taken the Muslim jihadists seriously.
By invading a country which had nothing to do with "Muslim
jihadists"
and continuing to be allies with those countries that harbor and
promote "Muslim jihadists".
Pay attention Honest Ray, Iraq was invaded because it was thought
by
most
everyone that Saddam had WMD's .
Now you resort to outright lying. No, not "most everyone".
'Most everyone" believed Saddam had WMD's, Honest Ray ...
The why didn't the UN allow the invasion?
Because its the business of the UN to taaaaaaaalk.
That's a pathetic evasion. If "Most everyone" thought that Iraq was a
threat then why did the UN Security Council refuse to give permission
to the US for an invasion?
Because its a crooked organization, number 1.
Ad hominem.
Its true, Honest Ray even if you ignore it.
You don't know what the truth is, bigot.
Why hasn't the UN
intervened in Sudan?
You're changing the subject. I didn't ask about any action. I asked
about agreement which you say existed.
It exists, Honest Ray.
Now you're just lying stupidly. There was no agreement of a threat at the
UN.
Just in your dreams, Honest Ray.
Everybody except you lunatics knows that the UN security council did
NOT agree with Bush regarding Iraq.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! |
10 Feb 2007 12:25:25 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:45cd39e8$0$14120$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:45ccc64e$0$14062$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
I wouldn't say incompetent, I would say he is the 1st President
of
the
last
few administrations that has taken the Muslim jihadists
seriously.
By invading a country which had nothing to do with "Muslim
jihadists"
and continuing to be allies with those countries that harbor and
promote "Muslim jihadists".
Pay attention Honest Ray, Iraq was invaded because it was thought
by
most
everyone that Saddam had WMD's .
Now you resort to outright lying. No, not "most everyone".
'Most everyone" believed Saddam had WMD's, Honest Ray ...
The why didn't the UN allow the invasion?
Because its the business of the UN to taaaaaaaalk.
That's a pathetic evasion. If "Most everyone" thought that Iraq was a
threat then why did the UN Security Council refuse to give permission
to the US for an invasion?
Because its a crooked organization, number 1.
Ad hominem.
Its true, Honest Ray even if you ignore it.
You don't know what the truth is, bigot.
I'll take that as you agree that the UN is a crooked organizaton and has
been exposed for being so, especially with oil for food program, Honest Ray.
Why hasn't the UN
intervened in Sudan?
You're changing the subject. I didn't ask about any action. I asked
about agreement which you say existed.
It exists, Honest Ray.
Now you're just lying stupidly. There was no agreement of a threat at
the
UN.
Just in your dreams, Honest Ray.
Everybody except you lunatics knows that the UN security council did
NOT agree with Bush regarding Iraq.
Read UN resolution 1441. The tittle of the Security Councils Press Release
SC/7564, 8-1-2002 "Security Council Holds Iraq in 'Material Breach' of
Disarmament Obligations, Offers Final Chance to Comply, Unanimously Adopting
Resoluton 1441. http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2002/SC7564.doc.htm
It was just more from the talk masters at the UN ... talk the talk but fail
to act, Honest Ray.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! |
10 Feb 2007 01:37:52 PM |
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Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:45cd39e8$0$14120$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:45ccc64e$0$14062$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
I wouldn't say incompetent, I would say he is the 1st President
of
the
last
few administrations that has taken the Muslim jihadists
seriously.
By invading a country which had nothing to do with "Muslim
jihadists"
and continuing to be allies with those countries that harbor and
promote "Muslim jihadists".
Pay attention Honest Ray, Iraq was invaded because it was thought
by
most
everyone that Saddam had WMD's .
Now you resort to outright lying. No, not "most everyone".
'Most everyone" believed Saddam had WMD's, Honest Ray ...
The why didn't the UN allow the invasion?
Because its the business of the UN to taaaaaaaalk.
That's a pathetic evasion. If "Most everyone" thought that Iraq was a
threat then why did the UN Security Council refuse to give permission
to the US for an invasion?
Because its a crooked organization, number 1.
Ad hominem.
Its true, Honest Ray even if you ignore it.
You don't know what the truth is, bigot.
I'll take that as you agree that the UN is a crooked organizaton and has
And so you prove that you're a liar.
Why hasn't the UN
intervened in Sudan?
You're changing the subject. I didn't ask about any action. I asked
about agreement which you say existed.
It exists, Honest Ray.
Now you're just lying stupidly. There was no agreement of a threat at
the
UN.
Just in your dreams, Honest Ray.
Everybody except you lunatics knows that the UN security council did
NOT agree with Bush regarding Iraq.
Read UN resolution 1441. The tittle of the Security Councils Press Release
SC/7564, 8-1-2002 "Security Council Holds Iraq in 'Material Breach' of
Disarmament Obligations, Offers Final Chance to Comply, Unanimously Adopting
Resoluton 1441. http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2002/SC7564.doc.htm
Nothing there authorizes any ivasion, liar.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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10 Feb 2007 02:32:34 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
I wouldn't say incompetent, I would say he is the 1st
President
of
the
last
few administrations that has taken the Muslim jihadists
seriously.
By invading a country which had nothing to do with "Muslim
jihadists"
and continuing to be allies with those countries that harbor
and
promote "Muslim jihadists".
Pay attention Honest Ray, Iraq was invaded because it was
thought
by
most
everyone that Saddam had WMD's .
Now you resort to outright lying. No, not "most everyone".
'Most everyone" believed Saddam had WMD's, Honest Ray ...
The why didn't the UN allow the invasion?
Because its the business of the UN to taaaaaaaalk.
That's a pathetic evasion. If "Most everyone" thought that Iraq was
a
threat then why did the UN Security Council refuse to give
permission
to the US for an invasion?
Because its a crooked organization, number 1.
Ad hominem.
Its true, Honest Ray even if you ignore it.
You don't know what the truth is, bigot.
I'll take that as you agree that the UN is a crooked organizaton and has
And so you prove that you're a liar.
As I said, I'll take that as you agree that the UN is a crooked organizaton
and has
Why hasn't the UN
intervened in Sudan?
You're changing the subject. I didn't ask about any action. I
asked
about agreement which you say existed.
It exists, Honest Ray.
Now you're just lying stupidly. There was no agreement of a threat at
the
UN.
Just in your dreams, Honest Ray.
Everybody except you lunatics knows that the UN security council did
NOT agree with Bush regarding Iraq.
Read UN resolution 1441. The tittle of the Security Councils Press
Release
SC/7564, 8-1-2002 "Security Council Holds Iraq in 'Material Breach' of
Disarmament Obligations, Offers Final Chance to Comply, Unanimously
Adopting
Resoluton 1441. http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2002/SC7564.doc.htm
Nothing there authorizes any ivasion, liar.
Final chance, means nothing to you ... you imply anything I say as being a
"lie." ... now you see not implication of a final chance. Do you see it as
final chance of talking and if they do not continue to talk, we will
continue to talk anyway, Honest Ray, the walking joke master.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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10 Feb 2007 04:59:33 PM |
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Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:45cd39e8$0$14120$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:45ccc64e$0$14062$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
I wouldn't say incompetent, I would say he is the 1st
President
of
the
last
few administrations that has taken the Muslim jihadists
seriously.
By invading a country which had nothing to do with "Muslim
jihadists"
and continuing to be allies with those countries that harbor
and
promote "Muslim jihadists".
Pay attention Honest Ray, Iraq was invaded because it was
thought
by
most
everyone that Saddam had WMD's .
Now you resort to outright lying. No, not "most everyone".
'Most everyone" believed Saddam had WMD's, Honest Ray ...
The why didn't the UN allow the invasion?
Because its the business of the UN to taaaaaaaalk.
That's a pathetic evasion. If "Most everyone" thought that Iraq was
a
threat then why did the UN Security Council refuse to give
permission
to the US for an invasion?
Because its a crooked organization, number 1.
Ad hominem.
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