Religions > Bible > Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !!
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28 Jan 2007 09:24:51 AM |
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Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! |
There are two ways to get our troops OUT of
Iraq - **NOW** !!
There's a good way and bad way.
First - the BAD way. That's the way it was done
this last week. 43 of them were killed. Thus, fully 43
of them *immediately* got out of Iraq. But the problem
with doing it that way is that it's rough on their families
and probably is rock bottom on the list of priorities that
most soldiers would have by way of methods of redeploy-
ment out of there. And too, it would take 'way too long.
At that rate -- around 5,000 per year -- it would take over
25 years to get them all out of Iraq. Warmonger-in-Thief
Bush is probably the *only* person who'd like to see us
being stuck there for that long.
Then there's the GOOD way: Congress immediately
and with the full force of law totally DE-FUNDS the war,
with the sole exception of the amount of money that it
would take to IMMEDIATELY get **all** of our troops
out of these, and back to America safely. That would
save countless of our soldiers' lives, and enable the
USA to regain some of the respect it lost worldwide
when the a-hole who stole the White House illegally
invaded another sovereign nation after LYING to every-
one in order to CON them into supporting his idiocy.
Some people disagree with the latter method. It
would be interesting to know how many of those same
people also are bone-dumb enough to be RRR Cult
lemmings.
- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
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07 Feb 2007 09:46:42 AM |
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"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in
If you accept that civilians get killed in wars, and you
advocate war, you advocate the killing of civilians.
Obviously, and a recognition of reality.
There is some progress. You now recognize that advocating war
is advocating the killing of civilians. Earliar, when I
accused you of advocating the killing of innocent civilians,
you denied it. Your own words on January 1:
No, I'm not advocating killing more innocent civilians.
I'm just recognizing reality that in war civilians get
killed.
No, Mr Weatherwax you are wrong. I have never advocated the
killing of innocent civilians as an aim of war.
Moving the goalposts.
Wrong its your reading comprehension. The US does kill civilians
in this war, but it isn't the aim to kill civilians ... you know
like setting off bombs in places where one knows there will be
lots of civilians.
I recognized the fact that innocent
civilians get killed in war.
You want war
You know that innocent civilians get killed in war
Yes I do recognize that innocent civilians get killed in war ...
do you hold that standard to WWII? ... that civilians shouldn't
get killed so we should let the Axis nations take over?
Thus, you want innocent civilians to get killed.
Wrong ... try to avoid civilian casualties ... not a goal to see
how many civilians one can kill. Very simple concept Honest Ray.
Muslim jihadists aim
is to kill innocent civilians .
Using your bigotry to excuse YOUR wish to see innocent people die
is disgusting.
You are a real hoot, Honest Ray.
Ray is right on target regarding this issue, dishonest JoIrkin.
You on the other hand are deluding yourself.
Well, Bob why don't you point out my bigotry ... do you, like Honest
Ray, think that Muslim jihadist should be allowed to go on killing
people like they do all over the world? ...
No one "should be allowed to go on killing people like they do all
over the world", not_even_America, JoIrkin.
How do you propose that the killing stop?
If we could eliminate all religions everywhere, it would be a good start.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Joe Irvin" |
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| Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! |
07 Feb 2007 12:25:08 PM |
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"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in
If you accept that civilians get killed in wars, and you
advocate war, you advocate the killing of civilians.
Obviously, and a recognition of reality.
There is some progress. You now recognize that advocating war
is advocating the killing of civilians. Earliar, when I
accused you of advocating the killing of innocent civilians,
you denied it. Your own words on January 1:
No, I'm not advocating killing more innocent civilians.
I'm just recognizing reality that in war civilians get
killed.
No, Mr Weatherwax you are wrong. I have never advocated the
killing of innocent civilians as an aim of war.
Moving the goalposts.
Wrong its your reading comprehension. The US does kill civilians
in this war, but it isn't the aim to kill civilians ... you know
like setting off bombs in places where one knows there will be
lots of civilians.
I recognized the fact that innocent
civilians get killed in war.
You want war
You know that innocent civilians get killed in war
Yes I do recognize that innocent civilians get killed in war ...
do you hold that standard to WWII? ... that civilians shouldn't
get killed so we should let the Axis nations take over?
Thus, you want innocent civilians to get killed.
Wrong ... try to avoid civilian casualties ... not a goal to see
how many civilians one can kill. Very simple concept Honest Ray.
Muslim jihadists aim
is to kill innocent civilians .
Using your bigotry to excuse YOUR wish to see innocent people die
is disgusting.
You are a real hoot, Honest Ray.
Ray is right on target regarding this issue, dishonest JoIrkin.
You on the other hand are deluding yourself.
Well, Bob why don't you point out my bigotry ... do you, like Honest
Ray, think that Muslim jihadist should be allowed to go on killing
people like they do all over the world? ...
No one "should be allowed to go on killing people like they do all
over the world", not_even_America, JoIrkin.
How do you propose that the killing stop?
If we could eliminate all religions everywhere, it would be a good start.
Been tried Bob ... communism ... as many as 25 million in the former USSR,
65 million in China,1.7 million in Cambodia. The Black Book of Communism"
Didn't work Bob, back to the drawing board. Islam should work, its the
religion of peace.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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07 Feb 2007 12:32:55 PM |
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If you accept that civilians get killed in wars, and you
advocate war, you advocate the killing of civilians.
Obviously, and a recognition of reality.
There is some progress. You now recognize that advocating
war is advocating the killing of civilians. Earliar, when I
accused you of advocating the killing of innocent civilians,
you denied it. Your own words on January 1:
No, I'm not advocating killing more innocent
civilians. I'm just recognizing reality that in war
civilians get killed.
No, Mr Weatherwax you are wrong. I have never advocated the
killing of innocent civilians as an aim of war.
Moving the goalposts.
Wrong its your reading comprehension. The US does kill
civilians in this war, but it isn't the aim to kill civilians
... you know like setting off bombs in places where one knows
there will be lots of civilians.
I recognized the fact that innocent
civilians get killed in war.
You want war
You know that innocent civilians get killed in war
Yes I do recognize that innocent civilians get killed in war ...
do you hold that standard to WWII? ... that civilians shouldn't
get killed so we should let the Axis nations take over?
Thus, you want innocent civilians to get killed.
Wrong ... try to avoid civilian casualties ... not a goal to see
how many civilians one can kill. Very simple concept Honest
Ray.
Muslim jihadists aim
is to kill innocent civilians .
Using your bigotry to excuse YOUR wish to see innocent people
die is disgusting.
You are a real hoot, Honest Ray.
Ray is right on target regarding this issue, dishonest JoIrkin.
You on the other hand are deluding yourself.
Well, Bob why don't you point out my bigotry ... do you, like
Honest Ray, think that Muslim jihadist should be allowed to go on
killing people like they do all over the world? ...
No one "should be allowed to go on killing people like they do all
over the world", not_even_America, JoIrkin.
How do you propose that the killing stop?
If we could eliminate all religions everywhere, it would be a good
start.
Been tried Bob ... communism ... as many as 25 million in the former
USSR, 65 million in China,1.7 million in Cambodia. The Black Book of
Communism" Didn't work Bob, back to the drawing board. Islam should
work, its the religion of peace.
But the U.S. which you nutcases claim is a "xtian nation" has done most
of the killing of innocent men, women and children, JoIrkin.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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07 Feb 2007 01:20:44 PM |
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"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in
If you accept that civilians get killed in wars, and you
advocate war, you advocate the killing of civilians.
Obviously, and a recognition of reality.
There is some progress. You now recognize that advocating
war is advocating the killing of civilians. Earliar, when I
accused you of advocating the killing of innocent civilians,
you denied it. Your own words on January 1:
No, I'm not advocating killing more innocent
civilians. I'm just recognizing reality that in war
civilians get killed.
No, Mr Weatherwax you are wrong. I have never advocated the
killing of innocent civilians as an aim of war.
Moving the goalposts.
Wrong its your reading comprehension. The US does kill
civilians in this war, but it isn't the aim to kill civilians
... you know like setting off bombs in places where one knows
there will be lots of civilians.
I recognized the fact that innocent
civilians get killed in war.
You want war
You know that innocent civilians get killed in war
Yes I do recognize that innocent civilians get killed in war ...
do you hold that standard to WWII? ... that civilians shouldn't
get killed so we should let the Axis nations take over?
Thus, you want innocent civilians to get killed.
Wrong ... try to avoid civilian casualties ... not a goal to see
how many civilians one can kill. Very simple concept Honest
Ray.
Muslim jihadists aim
is to kill innocent civilians .
Using your bigotry to excuse YOUR wish to see innocent people
die is disgusting.
You are a real hoot, Honest Ray.
Ray is right on target regarding this issue, dishonest JoIrkin.
You on the other hand are deluding yourself.
Well, Bob why don't you point out my bigotry ... do you, like
Honest Ray, think that Muslim jihadist should be allowed to go on
killing people like they do all over the world? ...
No one "should be allowed to go on killing people like they do all
over the world", not_even_America, JoIrkin.
How do you propose that the killing stop?
If we could eliminate all religions everywhere, it would be a good
start.
Been tried Bob ... communism ... as many as 25 million in the former
USSR, 65 million in China,1.7 million in Cambodia. The Black Book of
Communism" Didn't work Bob, back to the drawing board. Islam should
work, its the religion of peace.
But the U.S. which you nutcases claim is a "xtian nation" has done most
of the killing of innocent men, women and children, JoIrkin.
But Bob, this was your original statement: "If we could eliminate all
religions everywhere, it would be a good start." Wouldn't you now say that
that is a false statement ... Communist tried the elimination of religion
and there were massive deaths which I pointed out. So will you admit that
you are incorrect in your above premise?
Now about the US 'has done most of the killing of innocent men women, and
children.' How about some stats/cites to back up this claim?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in
If you accept that civilians get killed in wars, and you
advocate war, you advocate the killing of civilians.
Obviously, and a recognition of reality.
There is some progress. You now recognize that advocating
war is advocating the killing of civilians. Earliar, when
I accused you of advocating the killing of innocent
civilians, you denied it. Your own words on January 1:
No, I'm not advocating killing more innocent
civilians. I'm just recognizing reality that in war
civilians get killed.
No, Mr Weatherwax you are wrong. I have never advocated the
killing of innocent civilians as an aim of war.
Moving the goalposts.
Wrong its your reading comprehension. The US does kill
civilians in this war, but it isn't the aim to kill civilians
... you know like setting off bombs in places where one knows
there will be lots of civilians.
I recognized the fact that innocent
civilians get killed in war.
You want war
You know that innocent civilians get killed in war
Yes I do recognize that innocent civilians get killed in war
... do you hold that standard to WWII? ... that civilians
shouldn't get killed so we should let the Axis nations take
over?
Thus, you want innocent civilians to get killed.
Wrong ... try to avoid civilian casualties ... not a goal to
see how many civilians one can kill. Very simple concept
Honest Ray.
Muslim jihadists aim
is to kill innocent civilians .
Using your bigotry to excuse YOUR wish to see innocent people
die is disgusting.
You are a real hoot, Honest Ray.
Ray is right on target regarding this issue, dishonest JoIrkin.
You on the other hand are deluding yourself.
Well, Bob why don't you point out my bigotry ... do you, like
Honest Ray, think that Muslim jihadist should be allowed to go
on killing people like they do all over the world? ...
No one "should be allowed to go on killing people like they do
all over the world", not_even_America, JoIrkin.
How do you propose that the killing stop?
If we could eliminate all religions everywhere, it would be a good
start.
Been tried Bob ... communism ... as many as 25 million in the former
USSR, 65 million in China,1.7 million in Cambodia. The Black Book
of Communism" Didn't work Bob, back to the drawing board. Islam
should work, its the religion of peace.
But the U.S. which you nutcases claim is a "xtian nation" has done
most of the killing of innocent men, women and children, JoIrkin.
But Bob, this was your original statement: "If we could eliminate all
religions everywhere, it would be a good start." Wouldn't you now say
that that is a false statement ...
Nope, my statement still holds true, JoIrkin.
Communist tried the elimination of
religion and there were massive deaths which I pointed out. So will
you admit that you are incorrect in your above premise?
Nope.
Now about the US 'has done most of the killing of innocent men women,
and children.' How about some stats/cites to back up this claim?
It's common knowledge and easy to verify so do your own research if you
really care, JoIrkin. But I doubt that you care.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in
If you accept that civilians get killed in wars, and you
advocate war, you advocate the killing of civilians.
Obviously, and a recognition of reality.
There is some progress. You now recognize that advocating
war is advocating the killing of civilians. Earliar, when
I accused you of advocating the killing of innocent
civilians, you denied it. Your own words on January 1:
No, I'm not advocating killing more innocent
civilians. I'm just recognizing reality that in war
civilians get killed.
No, Mr Weatherwax you are wrong. I have never advocated the
killing of innocent civilians as an aim of war.
Moving the goalposts.
Wrong its your reading comprehension. The US does kill
civilians in this war, but it isn't the aim to kill civilians
... you know like setting off bombs in places where one knows
there will be lots of civilians.
I recognized the fact that innocent
civilians get killed in war.
You want war
You know that innocent civilians get killed in war
Yes I do recognize that innocent civilians get killed in war
... do you hold that standard to WWII? ... that civilians
shouldn't get killed so we should let the Axis nations take
over?
Thus, you want innocent civilians to get killed.
Wrong ... try to avoid civilian casualties ... not a goal to
see how many civilians one can kill. Very simple concept
Honest Ray.
Muslim jihadists aim
is to kill innocent civilians .
Using your bigotry to excuse YOUR wish to see innocent people
die is disgusting.
You are a real hoot, Honest Ray.
Ray is right on target regarding this issue, dishonest JoIrkin.
You on the other hand are deluding yourself.
Well, Bob why don't you point out my bigotry ... do you, like
Honest Ray, think that Muslim jihadist should be allowed to go
on killing people like they do all over the world? ...
No one "should be allowed to go on killing people like they do
all over the world", not_even_America, JoIrkin.
How do you propose that the killing stop?
If we could eliminate all religions everywhere, it would be a good
start.
Been tried Bob ... communism ... as many as 25 million in the former
USSR, 65 million in China,1.7 million in Cambodia. The Black Book
of Communism" Didn't work Bob, back to the drawing board. Islam
should work, its the religion of peace.
But the U.S. which you nutcases claim is a "xtian nation" has done
most of the killing of innocent men, women and children, JoIrkin.
But Bob, this was your original statement: "If we could eliminate all
religions everywhere, it would be a good start." Wouldn't you now say
that that is a false statement ...
Nope, my statement still holds true, JoIrkin.
You live in your own world that has nothing to do with reality, right?
Communist tried the elimination of
religion and there were massive deaths which I pointed out. So will
you admit that you are incorrect in your above premise?
Nope.
So are you delusional?
Now about the US 'has done most of the killing of innocent men women,
and children.' How about some stats/cites to back up this claim?
It's common knowledge and easy to verify so do your own research if you
really care, JoIrkin. But I doubt that you care.
I did and found that you were wrong ... I gave cites. Why don't you retire
to the troll lounge with Honest Ray and have a salad and some Kool Aid.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
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"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in
If you accept that civilians get killed in wars, and
you advocate war, you advocate the killing of
civilians.
Obviously, and a recognition of reality.
There is some progress. You now recognize that
advocating war is advocating the killing of civilians.
Earliar, when I accused you of advocating the killing of
innocent civilians, you denied it. Your own words on
January 1:
No, I'm not advocating killing more innocent
civilians. I'm just recognizing reality that in
war civilians get killed.
No, Mr Weatherwax you are wrong. I have never advocated
the killing of innocent civilians as an aim of war.
Moving the goalposts.
Wrong its your reading comprehension. The US does kill
civilians in this war, but it isn't the aim to kill
civilians ... you know like setting off bombs in places
where one knows there will be lots of civilians.
I recognized the fact that innocent
civilians get killed in war.
You want war
You know that innocent civilians get killed in war
Yes I do recognize that innocent civilians get killed in war
... do you hold that standard to WWII? ... that civilians
shouldn't get killed so we should let the Axis nations take
over?
Thus, you want innocent civilians to get killed.
Wrong ... try to avoid civilian casualties ... not a goal to
see how many civilians one can kill. Very simple concept
Honest Ray.
Muslim jihadists aim
is to kill innocent civilians .
Using your bigotry to excuse YOUR wish to see innocent
people die is disgusting.
You are a real hoot, Honest Ray.
Ray is right on target regarding this issue, dishonest
JoIrkin. You on the other hand are deluding yourself.
Well, Bob why don't you point out my bigotry ... do you, like
Honest Ray, think that Muslim jihadist should be allowed to go
on killing people like they do all over the world? ...
No one "should be allowed to go on killing people like they do
all over the world", not_even_America, JoIrkin.
How do you propose that the killing stop?
If we could eliminate all religions everywhere, it would be a
good start.
Been tried Bob ... communism ... as many as 25 million in the
former USSR, 65 million in China,1.7 million in Cambodia. The
Black Book of Communism" Didn't work Bob, back to the drawing
board. Islam should work, its the religion of peace.
But the U.S. which you nutcases claim is a "xtian nation" has done
most of the killing of innocent men, women and children, JoIrkin.
But Bob, this was your original statement: "If we could eliminate
all religions everywhere, it would be a good start." Wouldn't you
now say that that is a false statement ...
Nope, my statement still holds true, JoIrkin.
You live in your own world that has nothing to do with reality, right?
Pot, kettle, black.
Communist tried the elimination of
religion and there were massive deaths which I pointed out. So will
you admit that you are incorrect in your above premise?
Nope.
So are you delusional?
Pot, kettle, black.
Now about the US 'has done most of the killing of innocent men
women, and children.' How about some stats/cites to back up this
claim?
It's common knowledge and easy to verify so do your own research if
you really care, JoIrkin. But I doubt that you care.
I did and found that you were wrong ...
You are a liar, JoIrkin.
I gave cites.
Bs, JoIrkin.
Why don't you
retire to the troll lounge with Honest Ray and have a salad and some
Kool Aid.
Why don't you take your head out of your butt and face the truth,
JoIrkin?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message news:Xns98D04F1EF4ED9SD@69.28.173.184...
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Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
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"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in
If you accept that civilians get killed in wars, and you
advocate war, you advocate the killing of civilians.
Obviously, and a recognition of reality.
There is some progress. You now recognize that advocating war
is advocating the killing of civilians. Earliar, when I
accused you of advocating the killing of innocent civilians,
you denied it. Your own words on January 1:
No, I'm not advocating killing more innocent civilians.
I'm just recognizing reality that in war civilians get
killed.
No, Mr Weatherwax you are wrong. I have never advocated the
killing of innocent civilians as an aim of war.
Moving the goalposts.
Wrong its your reading comprehension. The US does kill civilians
in this war, but it isn't the aim to kill civilians ... you know
like setting off bombs in places where one knows there will be
lots of civilians.
I recognized the fact that innocent
civilians get killed in war.
You want war
You know that innocent civilians get killed in war
Yes I do recognize that innocent civilians get killed in war ...
do you hold that standard to WWII? ... that civilians shouldn't
get killed so we should let the Axis nations take over?
Thus, you want innocent civilians to get killed.
Wrong ... try to avoid civilian casualties ... not a goal to see
how many civilians one can kill. Very simple concept Honest Ray.
Muslim jihadists aim
is to kill innocent civilians .
Using your bigotry to excuse YOUR wish to see innocent people die
is disgusting.
You are a real hoot, Honest Ray.
Ray is right on target regarding this issue, dishonest JoIrkin.
You on the other hand are deluding yourself.
Well, Bob why don't you point out my bigotry ... do you, like Honest
Ray, think that Muslim jihadist should be allowed to go on killing
people like they do all over the world? ...
No one "should be allowed to go on killing people like they do all
over the world", not_even_America, JoIrkin.
How do you propose that the killing stop?
If we could eliminate all religions everywhere, it would be a good start.
So much for the liberal lie that liberals believe in freedom.
BOB provides proof that they want domination and control.
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07 Feb 2007 10:02:15 AM |
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In article <EIGdne-M-IYeaFTYnZ2dnUVZ_tunnZ2d@comcast.com>, Osprey
<NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message news:Xns98D04F1EF4ED9SD@69.28.173.184...
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Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"weatherwax" <weatherwax@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in
If you accept that civilians get killed in wars, and you
advocate war, you advocate the killing of civilians.
Obviously, and a recognition of reality.
There is some progress. You now recognize that advocating war
is advocating the killing of civilians. Earliar, when I
accused you of advocating the killing of innocent civilians,
you denied it. Your own words on January 1:
No, I'm not advocating killing more innocent civilians.
I'm just recognizing reality that in war civilians get
killed.
No, Mr Weatherwax you are wrong. I have never advocated the
killing of innocent civilians as an aim of war.
Moving the goalposts.
Wrong its your reading comprehension. The US does kill civilians
in this war, but it isn't the aim to kill civilians ... you know
like setting off bombs in places where one knows there will be
lots of civilians.
I recognized the fact that innocent
civilians get killed in war.
You want war
You know that innocent civilians get killed in war
Yes I do recognize that innocent civilians get killed in war ...
do you hold that standard to WWII? ... that civilians shouldn't
get killed so we should let the Axis nations take over?
Thus, you want innocent civilians to get killed.
Wrong ... try to avoid civilian casualties ... not a goal to see
how many civilians one can kill. Very simple concept Honest Ray.
Muslim jihadists aim
is to kill innocent civilians .
Using your bigotry to excuse YOUR wish to see innocent people die
is disgusting.
You are a real hoot, Honest Ray.
Ray is right on target regarding this issue, dishonest JoIrkin.
You on the other hand are deluding yourself.
Well, Bob why don't you point out my bigotry ... do you, like Honest
Ray, think that Muslim jihadist should be allowed to go on killing
people like they do all over the world? ...
No one "should be allowed to go on killing people like they do all
over the world", not_even_America, JoIrkin.
How do you propose that the killing stop?
If we could eliminate all religions everywhere, it would be a good start.
So much for the liberal lie that liberals believe in freedom.
BOB provides proof that they want domination and control.
You are an idiot.
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07 Feb 2007 10:35:46 AM |
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"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in
news:070220070802150504%dwbarnes@barnsco.com:
In article <EIGdne-M-IYeaFTYnZ2dnUVZ_tunnZ2d@comcast.com>, Osprey
<NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
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"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in
news:eqcs20$kob$1@news04.infoave.net:
"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
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"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in
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"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
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"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"weatherwax" <weatherwax@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in message
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"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in
If you accept that civilians get killed in wars, and you
advocate war, you advocate the killing of civilians.
Obviously, and a recognition of reality.
There is some progress. You now recognize that advocating
war is advocating the killing of civilians. Earliar, when
I accused you of advocating the killing of innocent
civilians, you denied it. Your own words on January 1:
No, I'm not advocating killing more innocent
civilians. I'm just recognizing reality that in war
civilians get killed.
No, Mr Weatherwax you are wrong. I have never advocated the
killing of innocent civilians as an aim of war.
Moving the goalposts.
Wrong its your reading comprehension. The US does kill
civilians in this war, but it isn't the aim to kill civilians
... you know like setting off bombs in places where one knows
there will be lots of civilians.
I recognized the fact that innocent
civilians get killed in war.
You want war
You know that innocent civilians get killed in war
Yes I do recognize that innocent civilians get killed in war
... do you hold that standard to WWII? ... that civilians
shouldn't get killed so we should let the Axis nations take
over?
Thus, you want innocent civilians to get killed.
Wrong ... try to avoid civilian casualties ... not a goal to
see how many civilians one can kill. Very simple concept
Honest Ray.
Muslim jihadists aim
is to kill innocent civilians .
Using your bigotry to excuse YOUR wish to see innocent people
die is disgusting.
You are a real hoot, Honest Ray.
Ray is right on target regarding this issue, dishonest JoIrkin.
You on the other hand are deluding yourself.
Well, Bob why don't you point out my bigotry ... do you, like
Honest Ray, think that Muslim jihadist should be allowed to go
on killing people like they do all over the world? ...
No one "should be allowed to go on killing people like they do
all over the world", not_even_America, JoIrkin.
How do you propose that the killing stop?
If we could eliminate all religions everywhere, it would be a good
start.
So much for the liberal lie that liberals believe in freedom.
BOB provides proof that they want domination and control.
You are an idiot.
That's a given.
The religious fools and fanatics don't want to admit that their religions
are the driving force behind a majority of the wars and the killing that
is going on now, as well as in the past. I'll say it again, eliminate
religion and you will eliminate a majority of the wars and killing that
is going on now and in the future.
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07 Feb 2007 12:35:45 PM |
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"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message news:Xns98D05770B378DSD@69.28.173.184...
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in
news:070220070802150504%dwbarnes@barnsco.com:
In article <EIGdne-M-IYeaFTYnZ2dnUVZ_tunnZ2d@comcast.com>, Osprey
<NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
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"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in
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"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
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"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in
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"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
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"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"weatherwax" <weatherwax@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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t...
"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in message
news:eq2or5$83s$1@news04.infoave.net...
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in
If you accept that civilians get killed in wars, and you
advocate war, you advocate the killing of civilians.
Obviously, and a recognition of reality.
There is some progress. You now recognize that advocating
war is advocating the killing of civilians. Earliar, when
I accused you of advocating the killing of innocent
civilians, you denied it. Your own words on January 1:
No, I'm not advocating killing more innocent
civilians. I'm just recognizing reality that in war
civilians get killed.
No, Mr Weatherwax you are wrong. I have never advocated the
killing of innocent civilians as an aim of war.
Moving the goalposts.
Wrong its your reading comprehension. The US does kill
civilians in this war, but it isn't the aim to kill civilians
... you know like setting off bombs in places where one knows
there will be lots of civilians.
I recognized the fact that innocent
civilians get killed in war.
You want war
You know that innocent civilians get killed in war
Yes I do recognize that innocent civilians get killed in war
... do you hold that standard to WWII? ... that civilians
shouldn't get killed so we should let the Axis nations take
over?
Thus, you want innocent civilians to get killed.
Wrong ... try to avoid civilian casualties ... not a goal to
see how many civilians one can kill. Very simple concept
Honest Ray.
Muslim jihadists aim
is to kill innocent civilians .
Using your bigotry to excuse YOUR wish to see innocent people
die is disgusting.
You are a real hoot, Honest Ray.
Ray is right on target regarding this issue, dishonest JoIrkin.
You on the other hand are deluding yourself.
Well, Bob why don't you point out my bigotry ... do you, like
Honest Ray, think that Muslim jihadist should be allowed to go
on killing people like they do all over the world? ...
No one "should be allowed to go on killing people like they do
all over the world", not_even_America, JoIrkin.
How do you propose that the killing stop?
If we could eliminate all religions everywhere, it would be a good
start.
So much for the liberal lie that liberals believe in freedom.
BOB provides proof that they want domination and control.
You are an idiot.
That's a given.
The religious fools and fanatics don't want to admit that their religions
are the driving force behind a majority of the wars and the killing that
is going on now, as well as in the past. I'll say it again, eliminate
religion and you will eliminate a majority of the wars and killing that
is going on now and in the future.
You are wrong again and I pointed out the deaths commited by Godless
communism in another post. Anyone else you would like to eliminate from the
political process like maybe conservatives?
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07 Feb 2007 05:07:57 PM |
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"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in
news:eqd65u$uv2$1@news04.infoave.net:
"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
news:Xns98D05770B378DSD@69.28.173.184...
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in
news:070220070802150504%dwbarnes@barnsco.com:
In article <EIGdne-M-IYeaFTYnZ2dnUVZ_tunnZ2d@comcast.com>, Osprey
<NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
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"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in
news:eqcs20$kob$1@news04.infoave.net:
"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
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"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in
news:eqa9fv$nmg$1@news04.infoave.net:
"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
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"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in
news:eqa2ip$go9$1@news04.infoave.net:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:45c81318$0$80101$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"weatherwax" <weatherwax@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:W3axh.514792$Fi1.514690@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.
ne t...
"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in message
news:eq2or5$83s$1@news04.infoave.net...
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in
If you accept that civilians get killed in wars, and
you advocate war, you advocate the killing of
civilians.
Obviously, and a recognition of reality.
There is some progress. You now recognize that
advocating war is advocating the killing of civilians.
Earliar, when I accused you of advocating the killing of
innocent civilians, you denied it. Your own words on
January 1:
No, I'm not advocating killing more innocent
civilians. I'm just recognizing reality that in
war civilians get killed.
No, Mr Weatherwax you are wrong. I have never advocated
the killing of innocent civilians as an aim of war.
Moving the goalposts.
Wrong its your reading comprehension. The US does kill
civilians in this war, but it isn't the aim to kill
civilians ... you know like setting off bombs in places
where one knows there will be lots of civilians.
I recognized the fact that innocent
civilians get killed in war.
You want war
You know that innocent civilians get killed in war
Yes I do recognize that innocent civilians get killed in war
... do you hold that standard to WWII? ... that civilians
shouldn't get killed so we should let the Axis nations take
over?
Thus, you want innocent civilians to get killed.
Wrong ... try to avoid civilian casualties ... not a goal to
see how many civilians one can kill. Very simple concept
Honest Ray.
Muslim jihadists aim
is to kill innocent civilians .
Using your bigotry to excuse YOUR wish to see innocent
people die is disgusting.
You are a real hoot, Honest Ray.
Ray is right on target regarding this issue, dishonest
JoIrkin. You on the other hand are deluding yourself.
Well, Bob why don't you point out my bigotry ... do you, like
Honest Ray, think that Muslim jihadist should be allowed to go
on killing people like they do all over the world? ...
No one "should be allowed to go on killing people like they do
all over the world", not_even_America, JoIrkin.
How do you propose that the killing stop?
If we could eliminate all religions everywhere, it would be a
good start.
So much for the liberal lie that liberals believe in freedom.
BOB provides proof that they want domination and control.
You are an idiot.
That's a given.
The religious fools and fanatics don't want to admit that their
religions are the driving force behind a majority of the wars and the
killing that is going on now, as well as in the past. I'll say it
again, eliminate religion and you will eliminate a majority of the
wars and killing that is going on now and in the future.
You are wrong again and I pointed out the deaths commited by Godless
communism in another post.
Yet you simply choose to ignore the tens if not hundreds of thousands of
deaths caused by your "born-again" neocon wingnut republiKKKan friends in
the Bush administration as well as the millions of deaths caused by your
nutty xtian cohorts througout history, JoIrkin.
Anyone else you would like to eliminate
from the political process like maybe conservatives?
Just the fanatical nutcases and xtian hypocrites like yourself, JoIrkin.
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07 Feb 2007 06:42:45 PM |
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"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message news:Xns98D099EF25072SD@69.28.173.184...
"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in
news:eqd65u$uv2$1@news04.infoave.net:
"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
news:Xns98D05770B378DSD@69.28.173.184...
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in
news:070220070802150504%dwbarnes@barnsco.com:
In article <EIGdne-M-IYeaFTYnZ2dnUVZ_tunnZ2d@comcast.com>, Osprey
<NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
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"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in
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"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in
If you accept that civilians get killed in wars, and
you advocate war, you advocate the killing of
civilians.
Obviously, and a recognition of reality.
There is some progress. You now recognize that
advocating war is advocating the killing of civilians.
Earliar, when I accused you of advocating the killing of
innocent civilians, you denied it. Your own words on
January 1:
No, I'm not advocating killing more innocent
civilians. I'm just recognizing reality that in
war civilians get killed.
No, Mr Weatherwax you are wrong. I have never advocated
the killing of innocent civilians as an aim of war.
Moving the goalposts.
Wrong its your reading comprehension. The US does kill
civilians in this war, but it isn't the aim to kill
civilians ... you know like setting off bombs in places
where one knows there will be lots of civilians.
I recognized the fact that innocent
civilians get killed in war.
You want war
You know that innocent civilians get killed in war
Yes I do recognize that innocent civilians get killed in war
... do you hold that standard to WWII? ... that civilians
shouldn't get killed so we should let the Axis nations take
over?
Thus, you want innocent civilians to get killed.
Wrong ... try to avoid civilian casualties ... not a goal to
see how many civilians one can kill. Very simple concept
Honest Ray.
Muslim jihadists aim
is to kill innocent civilians .
Using your bigotry to excuse YOUR wish to see innocent
people die is disgusting.
You are a real hoot, Honest Ray.
Ray is right on target regarding this issue, dishonest
JoIrkin. You on the other hand are deluding yourself.
Well, Bob why don't you point out my bigotry ... do you, like
Honest Ray, think that Muslim jihadist should be allowed to go
on killing people like they do all over the world? ...
No one "should be allowed to go on killing people like they do
all over the world", not_even_America, JoIrkin.
How do you propose that the killing stop?
If we could eliminate all religions everywhere, it would be a
good start.
So much for the liberal lie that liberals believe in freedom.
BOB provides proof that they want domination and control.
You are an idiot.
That's a given.
The religious fools and fanatics don't want to admit that their
religions are the driving force behind a majority of the wars and the
killing that is going on now, as well as in the past. I'll say it
again, eliminate religion and you will eliminate a majority of the
wars and killing that is going on now and in the future.
You are wrong again and I pointed out the deaths commited by Godless
communism in another post.
Yet you simply choose to ignore the tens if not hundreds of thousands of
deaths caused by your "born-again" neocon wingnut republiKKKan friends in
the Bush administration as well as the millions of deaths caused by your
nutty xtian cohorts througout history, JoIrkin.
No, what I ignore is you mindless raving/rants and accusations without any
evidence, just like above. But just keeep repeating it.
Anyone else you would like to eliminate
from the political process like maybe conservatives?
Just the fanatical nutcases and xtian hypocrites like yourself, JoIrkin.
I'm a member of the Church of the Painful truth ... every heard of it? Neal
Boortz is the high priest. ;)
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In article <EIGdne-M-IYeaFTYnZ2dnUVZ_tunnZ2d@comcast.com>, Osprey
<NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
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Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
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"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in
If you accept that civilians get killed in wars, and
you advocate war, you advocate the killing of
civilians.
Obviously, and a recognition of reality.
There is some progress. You now recognize that
advocating war is advocating the killing of civilians.
Earliar, when I accused you of advocating the killing
of innocent civilians, you denied it. Your own words on
January 1:
No, I'm not advocating killing more innocent
civilians. I'm just recognizing reality that in
war civilians get killed.
No, Mr Weatherwax you are wrong. I have never advocated
the killing of innocent civilians as an aim of war.
Moving the goalposts.
Wrong its your reading comprehension. The US does kill
civilians in this war, but it isn't the aim to kill
civilians ... you know like setting off bombs in places
where one knows there will be lots of civilians.
I recognized the fact that innocent
civilians get killed in war.
You want war
You know that innocent civilians get killed in war
Yes I do recognize that innocent civilians get killed in
war ... do you hold that standard to WWII? ... that
civilians shouldn't get killed so we should let the Axis
nations take over?
Thus, you want innocent civilians to get killed.
Wrong ... try to avoid civilian casualties ... not a goal
to see how many civilians one can kill. Very simple
concept Honest Ray.
Muslim jihadists aim
is to kill innocent civilians .
Using your bigotry to excuse YOUR wish to see innocent
people die is disgusting.
You are a real hoot, Honest Ray.
Ray is right on target regarding this issue, dishonest
JoIrkin. You on the other hand are deluding yourself.
Well, Bob why don't you point out my bigotry ... do you,
like Honest Ray, think that Muslim jihadist should be
allowed to go on killing people like they do all over the
world? ...
No one "should be allowed to go on killing people like they
do all over the world", not_even_America, JoIrkin.
How do you propose that the killing stop?
If we could eliminate all religions everywhere, it would be a
good start.
So much for the liberal lie that liberals believe in freedom.
BOB provides proof that they want domination and control.
You are an idiot.
That's a given.
The religious fools and fanatics don't want to admit that their
religions are the driving force behind a majority of the wars and
the killing that is going on now, as well as in the past. I'll say
it again, eliminate religion and you will eliminate a majority of
the wars and killing that is going on now and in the future.
You are wrong again and I pointed out the deaths commited by Godless
communism in another post.
Yet you simply choose to ignore the tens if not hundreds of thousands
of deaths caused by your "born-again" neocon wingnut republiKKKan
friends in the Bush administration as well as the millions of deaths
caused by your nutty xtian cohorts througout history, JoIrkin.
No, what I ignore is you mindless raving/rants and accusations without
any evidence, just like above. But just keeep repeating it.
The evidence is there, JoIrkin. Go get it if you want it.
Anyone else you would like to eliminate
from the political process like maybe conservatives?
Just the fanatical nutcases and xtian hypocrites like yourself,
JoIrkin.
I'm a member of the Church of the Painful truth ... every heard of it?
Neal Boortz is the high priest. ;)
Kook.
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| Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! |
08 Feb 2007 09:27:49 AM |
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"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message news:Xns98D0AC3CD3684SD@69.28.173.184...
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In article <EIGdne-M-IYeaFTYnZ2dnUVZ_tunnZ2d@comcast.com>, Osprey
<NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
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Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"weatherwax" <weatherwax@worldnet.att.net> wrote in
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"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in
If you accept that civilians get killed in wars, and
you advocate war, you advocate the killing of
civilians.
Obviously, and a recognition of reality.
There is some progress. You now recognize that
advocating war is advocating the killing of civilians.
Earliar, when I accused you of advocating the killing
of innocent civilians, you denied it. Your own words on
January 1:
No, I'm not advocating killing more innocent
civilians. I'm just recognizing reality that in
war civilians get killed.
No, Mr Weatherwax you are wrong. I have never advocated
the killing of innocent civilians as an aim of war.
Moving the goalposts.
Wrong its your reading comprehension. The US does kill
civilians in this war, but it isn't the aim to kill
civilians ... you know like setting off bombs in places
where one knows there will be lots of civilians.
I recognized the fact that innocent
civilians get killed in war.
You want war
You know that innocent civilians get killed in war
Yes I do recognize that innocent civilians get killed in
war ... do you hold that standard to WWII? ... that
civilians shouldn't get killed so we should let the Axis
nations take over?
Thus, you want innocent civilians to get killed.
Wrong ... try to avoid civilian casualties ... not a goal
to see how many civilians one can kill. Very simple
concept Honest Ray.
Muslim jihadists aim
is to kill innocent civilians .
Using your bigotry to excuse YOUR wish to see innocent
people die is disgusting.
You are a real hoot, Honest Ray.
Ray is right on target regarding this issue, dishonest
JoIrkin. You on the other hand are deluding yourself.
Well, Bob why don't you point out my bigotry ... do you,
like Honest Ray, think that Muslim jihadist should be
allowed to go on killing people like they do all over the
world? ...
No one "should be allowed to go on killing people like they
do all over the world", not_even_America, JoIrkin.
How do you propose that the killing stop?
If we could eliminate all religions everywhere, it would be a
good start.
So much for the liberal lie that liberals believe in freedom.
BOB provides proof that they want domination and control.
You are an idiot.
That's a given.
The religious fools and fanatics don't want to admit that their
religions are the driving force behind a majority of the wars and
the killing that is going on now, as well as in the past. I'll say
it again, eliminate religion and you will eliminate a majority of
the wars and killing that is going on now and in the future.
You are wrong again and I pointed out the deaths commited by Godless
communism in another post.
Yet you simply choose to ignore the tens if not hundreds of thousands
of deaths caused by your "born-again" neocon wingnut republiKKKan
friends in the Bush administration as well as the millions of deaths
caused by your nutty xtian cohorts througout history, JoIrkin.
No, what I ignore is you mindless raving/rants and accusations without
any evidence, just like above. But just keeep repeating it.
The evidence is there, JoIrkin. Go get it if you want it.
When you present an argument you present the evidence to back up you claim
.... you didn't but you've been a stitch ranting and raving.
Anyone else you would like to eliminate
from the political process like maybe conservatives?
Just the fanatical nutcases and xtian hypocrites like yourself,
JoIrkin.
I'm a member of the Church of the Painful truth ... every heard of it?
Neal Boortz is the high priest. ;)
Kook.
Boooooooooooooob, thats not nice.
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08 Feb 2007 10:53:53 AM |
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Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
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"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in
If you accept that civilians get killed in wars,
and you advocate war, you advocate the killing of
civilians.
Obviously, and a recognition of reality.
There is some progress. You now recognize that
advocating war is advocating the killing of
civilians. Earliar, when I accused you of advocating
the killing of innocent civilians, you denied it.
Your own words on January 1:
No, I'm not advocating killing more innocent
civilians. I'm just recognizing reality that
in war civilians get killed.
No, Mr Weatherwax you are wrong. I have never
advocated the killing of innocent civilians as an aim
of war.
Moving the goalposts.
Wrong its your reading comprehension. The US does kill
civilians in this war, but it isn't the aim to kill
civilians ... you know like setting off bombs in places
where one knows there will be lots of civilians.
I recognized the fact that innocent
civilians get killed in war.
You want war
You know that innocent civilians get killed in war
Yes I do recognize that innocent civilians get killed in
war ... do you hold that standard to WWII? ... that
civilians shouldn't get killed so we should let the Axis
nations take over?
Thus, you want innocent civilians to get killed.
Wrong ... try to avoid civilian casualties ... not a
goal to see how many civilians one can kill. Very
simple concept Honest Ray.
Muslim jihadists aim
is to kill innocent civilians .
Using your bigotry to excuse YOUR wish to see innocent
people die is disgusting.
You are a real hoot, Honest Ray.
Ray is right on target regarding this issue, dishonest
JoIrkin. You on the other hand are deluding yourself.
Well, Bob why don't you point out my bigotry ... do you,
like Honest Ray, think that Muslim jihadist should be
allowed to go on killing people like they do all over the
world? ...
No one "should be allowed to go on killing people like they
do all over the world", not_even_America, JoIrkin.
How do you propose that the killing stop?
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