Religions > Bible > Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !!
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"Egalitarian" |
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28 Jan 2007 09:24:51 AM |
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Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! |
There are two ways to get our troops OUT of
Iraq - **NOW** !!
There's a good way and bad way.
First - the BAD way. That's the way it was done
this last week. 43 of them were killed. Thus, fully 43
of them *immediately* got out of Iraq. But the problem
with doing it that way is that it's rough on their families
and probably is rock bottom on the list of priorities that
most soldiers would have by way of methods of redeploy-
ment out of there. And too, it would take 'way too long.
At that rate -- around 5,000 per year -- it would take over
25 years to get them all out of Iraq. Warmonger-in-Thief
Bush is probably the *only* person who'd like to see us
being stuck there for that long.
Then there's the GOOD way: Congress immediately
and with the full force of law totally DE-FUNDS the war,
with the sole exception of the amount of money that it
would take to IMMEDIATELY get **all** of our troops
out of these, and back to America safely. That would
save countless of our soldiers' lives, and enable the
USA to regain some of the respect it lost worldwide
when the a-hole who stole the White House illegally
invaded another sovereign nation after LYING to every-
one in order to CON them into supporting his idiocy.
Some people disagree with the latter method. It
would be interesting to know how many of those same
people also are bone-dumb enough to be RRR Cult
lemmings.
- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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| Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! |
09 Feb 2007 07:55:28 PM |
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In article <090220070722257410%dwbarnes@barnsco.com>,
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote:
In article <jgkeegan-AEFF68.20582608022007@individual.net>, james g.
keegan jr. <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote:
In article <u8qdnWpyAK832VbYnZ2dnUVZ_vShnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in message
news:eqfg06$bde$1@news04.infoave.net...
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in message
news:070220072009026763%dwbarnes@barnsco.com...
According to the The Federal Bureau of Prisons, 0.209% of prison
populations are atheists. Over 93% are theists.
Divorce rates:
Jews
30%
Born-again Christians
27%
Other Christians
24%
Atheists
21%
Statistically, the more education one is, the more likely to be an
atheist.
³The researchers found acceptance or rejection of atheists is related
not only to personal religiosity, but also to oneıs exposure to
diversity, education and political orientation < with more educated,
East and West Coast Americans more accepting of atheists than their
Midwestern counterparts.²
Ok, I'll take you at your word which is taking a risk if I go by your
past. But now tell me how many big atheist charities there are/how much
atheists as opposed to theists give to charity. I would be interested
to
know what atheist charities responded to the hurricane in New Orleans?
I'm just interested, I'm have no agenda ... I know Christians will
accept
help from atheists in their charitable organizations. I don't want to
get
into an argument about religion.
First those polls don't tell the whole story, they are misleading and he
knows that.
"misleading," exactly how?
Osprey made it up.
of course he did. that's why i asked him to support his false claim
--- so he's run away again.
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! |
09 Feb 2007 09:22:23 AM |
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In article <u8qdnWpyAK832VbYnZ2dnUVZ_vShnZ2d@comcast.com>, Osprey
<NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in message
news:eqfg06$bde$1@news04.infoave.net...
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in message
news:070220072009026763%dwbarnes@barnsco.com...
In article <eqd65u$uv2$1@news04.infoave.net>, Joe Irvin
<ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
If we could eliminate all religions everywhere, it would be a good
start.
So much for the liberal lie that liberals believe in freedom.
BOB provides proof that they want domination and control.
You are an idiot.
That's a given.
The religious fools and fanatics don't want to admit that their
religions
are the driving force behind a majority of the wars and the killing
that
is going on now, as well as in the past. I'll say it again, eliminate
religion and you will eliminate a majority of the wars and killing
that
is going on now and in the future.
You are wrong again and I pointed out the deaths commited by Godless
communism in another post.
Religion is responsible for huge numbers of deaths. As for
³communism,² they do not kill for atheism.
Anyone else you would like to eliminate from the
political process like maybe conservatives?
According to the The Federal Bureau of Prisons, 0.209% of prison
populations are atheists. Over 93% are theists.
Divorce rates:
Jews
30%
Born-again Christians
27%
Other Christians
24%
Atheists
21%
Statistically, the more education one is, the more likely to be an
atheist.
³The researchers found acceptance or rejection of atheists is related
not only to personal religiosity, but also to oneıs exposure to
diversity, education and political orientation < with more educated,
East and West Coast Americans more accepting of atheists than their
Midwestern counterparts.²
Ok, I'll take you at your word which is taking a risk if I go by your
past. But now tell me how many big atheist charities there are/how much
atheists as opposed to theists give to charity. I would be interested to
know what atheist charities responded to the hurricane in New Orleans?
I'm just interested, I'm have no agenda ... I know Christians will accept
help from atheists in their charitable organizations. I don't want to get
into an argument about religion.
First those polls don't tell the whole story, they are misleading and he
knows that.
But somehow, Osprey canıt explain why.
Second...
You bring up a very good point about religious organizations being the ones
who will help others.
*****.
The thing that is so sad about it all.
Lets say in Barnes area, there is a major earthquake. Barnes is without a
home, no where to go..nothing but the clothes on his back.
I have insurance. It is the responsible thing to do. You wouldnıt
understand.
There is a local church down the street that hasn't suffered too much
damage, they are offering food, shelter, and clothes.
Barnes, the athiest, would rush there and take what he could and then bad
mouth them later.
What an idiot you are.
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! |
09 Feb 2007 09:22:25 AM |
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In article <eqfg06$bde$1@news04.infoave.net>, Joe Irvin
<ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in message
news:070220072009026763%dwbarnes@barnsco.com...
In article <eqd65u$uv2$1@news04.infoave.net>, Joe Irvin
<ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
If we could eliminate all religions everywhere, it would be a good
start.
So much for the liberal lie that liberals believe in freedom.
BOB provides proof that they want domination and control.
You are an idiot.
That's a given.
The religious fools and fanatics don't want to admit that their
religions
are the driving force behind a majority of the wars and the killing
that
is going on now, as well as in the past. I'll say it again, eliminate
religion and you will eliminate a majority of the wars and killing that
is going on now and in the future.
You are wrong again and I pointed out the deaths commited by Godless
communism in another post.
Religion is responsible for huge numbers of deaths. As for
³communism,² they do not kill for atheism.
Anyone else you would like to eliminate from the
political process like maybe conservatives?
According to the The Federal Bureau of Prisons, 0.209% of prison
populations are atheists. Over 93% are theists.
Divorce rates:
Jews
30%
Born-again Christians
27%
Other Christians
24%
Atheists
21%
Statistically, the more education one is, the more likely to be an
atheist.
³The researchers found acceptance or rejection of atheists is related
not only to personal religiosity, but also to oneıs exposure to
diversity, education and political orientation < with more educated,
East and West Coast Americans more accepting of atheists than their
Midwestern counterparts.²
Ok, I'll take you at your word which is taking a risk if I go by your past.
Because we all know that if people prove you wrong they are liars.
But now tell me how many big atheist charities there are/how much atheists
as opposed to theists give to charity.
Charities are mostly a scam. Further, if you take away the money given
to the churches theists give almost nothing.
I would be interested to know what
atheist charities responded to the hurricane in New Orleans?
Atheists responded. I certainly did. But since they are not
³organized² they are not tracked.
I'm just
interested, I'm have no agenda ... I know Christians will accept help from
atheists in their charitable organizations. I don't want to get into an
argument about religion.
Sure. Here are a couple of facts for you - atheists are likely to be
more educated than the religious, and atheists are far more likely to
adopt.
Further, since scientists are atheists, they have saved more people
from death and suffering than all the religious combined.
The American Red Cross was founded by atheists.
Also, atheists give more to charity than Christians do. Clara Barton,
founder of the American Red Cross, is a good example. The three private
individuals who have donated the most to charity in American
history--Bill Gates, Warren Buffet and Andrew Carnegie--are all
atheists. John D. Rockefeller, #4, was a Baptist.
Religious "charities", i.e. - the Knights of Columbus, spent $100
million last year alone mailing postcards urging Canadians to vote
against gay marriage. Even the Salvation Army still organizes marches
under banners that read "Taking America Back for God". Secular
charities like the United Way and the Red Cross do all the work, which
is why this whole "faith-based initiative" thing is such a farce.
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| User: "Joe Irvin" |
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| Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! |
09 Feb 2007 12:57:11 PM |
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"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in message
news:090220070722257393%dwbarnes@barnsco.com...
In article <eqfg06$bde$1@news04.infoave.net>, Joe Irvin
<ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in message
news:070220072009026763%dwbarnes@barnsco.com...
In article <eqd65u$uv2$1@news04.infoave.net>, Joe Irvin
<ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
If we could eliminate all religions everywhere, it would be a
good
start.
So much for the liberal lie that liberals believe in freedom.
BOB provides proof that they want domination and control.
You are an idiot.
That's a given.
The religious fools and fanatics don't want to admit that their
religions
are the driving force behind a majority of the wars and the killing
that
is going on now, as well as in the past. I'll say it again,
eliminate
religion and you will eliminate a majority of the wars and killing
that
is going on now and in the future.
You are wrong again and I pointed out the deaths commited by Godless
communism in another post.
Religion is responsible for huge numbers of deaths. As for
³communism,² they do not kill for atheism.
Anyone else you would like to eliminate from the
political process like maybe conservatives?
According to the The Federal Bureau of Prisons, 0.209% of prison
populations are atheists. Over 93% are theists.
Divorce rates:
Jews
30%
Born-again Christians
27%
Other Christians
24%
Atheists
21%
Statistically, the more education one is, the more likely to be an
atheist.
³The researchers found acceptance or rejection of atheists is related
not only to personal religiosity, but also to oneıs exposure to
diversity, education and political orientation < with more educated,
East and West Coast Americans more accepting of atheists than their
Midwestern counterparts.²
Ok, I'll take you at your word which is taking a risk if I go by your
past.
Because we all know that if people prove you wrong they are liars.
But now tell me how many big atheist charities there are/how much
atheists
as opposed to theists give to charity.
Charities are mostly a scam. Further, if you take away the money given
to the churches theists give almost nothing.
I would be interested to know what
atheist charities responded to the hurricane in New Orleans?
Atheists responded. I certainly did. But since they are not
³organized² they are not tracked.
I'm just
interested, I'm have no agenda ... I know Christians will accept help
from
atheists in their charitable organizations. I don't want to get into an
argument about religion.
Sure. Here are a couple of facts for you - atheists are likely to be
more educated than the religious, and atheists are far more likely to
adopt.
Don't want to get into an argument about charity ... If atheists are more
educated, obviously you are not an atheist ... I wouldn't mention David W.
Barnes and education in the same sentence. But thats just me.
Further, since scientists are atheists, they have saved more people
from death and suffering than all the religious combined.
The American Red Cross was founded by atheists.
Also, atheists give more to charity than Christians do. Clara Barton,
founder of the American Red Cross, is a good example. The three private
individuals who have donated the most to charity in American
history--Bill Gates, Warren Buffet and Andrew Carnegie--are all
atheists. John D. Rockefeller, #4, was a Baptist.
Religious "charities", i.e. - the Knights of Columbus, spent $100
million last year alone mailing postcards urging Canadians to vote
against gay marriage. Even the Salvation Army still organizes marches
under banners that read "Taking America Back for God". Secular
charities like the United Way and the Red Cross do all the work, which
is why this whole "faith-based initiative" thing is such a farce.
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! |
09 Feb 2007 08:58:27 PM |
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In article <eqig65$j0i$1@news04.infoave.net>, Joe Irvin
<ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in message
news:090220070722257393%dwbarnes@barnsco.com...
In article <eqfg06$bde$1@news04.infoave.net>, Joe Irvin
<ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in message
news:070220072009026763%dwbarnes@barnsco.com...
In article <eqd65u$uv2$1@news04.infoave.net>, Joe Irvin
<ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
If we could eliminate all religions everywhere, it would be a
good
start.
So much for the liberal lie that liberals believe in freedom.
BOB provides proof that they want domination and control.
You are an idiot.
That's a given.
The religious fools and fanatics don't want to admit that their
religions
are the driving force behind a majority of the wars and the killing
that
is going on now, as well as in the past. I'll say it again,
eliminate
religion and you will eliminate a majority of the wars and killing
that
is going on now and in the future.
You are wrong again and I pointed out the deaths commited by Godless
communism in another post.
Religion is responsible for huge numbers of deaths. As for
³communism,² they do not kill for atheism.
Anyone else you would like to eliminate from the
political process like maybe conservatives?
According to the The Federal Bureau of Prisons, 0.209% of prison
populations are atheists. Over 93% are theists.
Divorce rates:
Jews
30%
Born-again Christians
27%
Other Christians
24%
Atheists
21%
Statistically, the more education one is, the more likely to be an
atheist.
³The researchers found acceptance or rejection of atheists is related
not only to personal religiosity, but also to oneıs exposure to
diversity, education and political orientation < with more educated,
East and West Coast Americans more accepting of atheists than their
Midwestern counterparts.²
Ok, I'll take you at your word which is taking a risk if I go by your
past.
Because we all know that if people prove you wrong they are liars.
But now tell me how many big atheist charities there are/how much
atheists
as opposed to theists give to charity.
Charities are mostly a scam. Further, if you take away the money given
to the churches theists give almost nothing.
I would be interested to know what
atheist charities responded to the hurricane in New Orleans?
Atheists responded. I certainly did. But since they are not
³organized² they are not tracked.
I'm just
interested, I'm have no agenda ... I know Christians will accept help
from
atheists in their charitable organizations. I don't want to get into an
argument about religion.
Sure. Here are a couple of facts for you - atheists are likely to be
more educated than the religious, and atheists are far more likely to
adopt.
Don't want to get into an argument about charity ... If atheists are more
educated, obviously you are not an atheist ... I wouldn't mention David W.
Barnes and education in the same sentence. But thats just me.
So, basically, you have totally lost on the debates and are now reduced
to childish insults.
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| User: "Joe Irvin" |
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| Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! |
10 Feb 2007 12:51:58 PM |
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"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in message
news:090220071858273143%dwbarnes@barnsco.com...
In article <eqig65$j0i$1@news04.infoave.net>, Joe Irvin
<ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in message
news:090220070722257393%dwbarnes@barnsco.com...
In article <eqfg06$bde$1@news04.infoave.net>, Joe Irvin
<ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in message
news:070220072009026763%dwbarnes@barnsco.com...
In article <eqd65u$uv2$1@news04.infoave.net>, Joe Irvin
<ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
If we could eliminate all religions everywhere, it would be a
good
start.
So much for the liberal lie that liberals believe in freedom.
BOB provides proof that they want domination and control.
You are an idiot.
That's a given.
The religious fools and fanatics don't want to admit that their
religions
are the driving force behind a majority of the wars and the
killing
that
is going on now, as well as in the past. I'll say it again,
eliminate
religion and you will eliminate a majority of the wars and
killing
that
is going on now and in the future.
You are wrong again and I pointed out the deaths commited by
Godless
communism in another post.
Religion is responsible for huge numbers of deaths. As for
³communism,² they do not kill for atheism.
Anyone else you would like to eliminate from the
political process like maybe conservatives?
According to the The Federal Bureau of Prisons, 0.209% of prison
populations are atheists. Over 93% are theists.
Divorce rates:
Jews
30%
Born-again Christians
27%
Other Christians
24%
Atheists
21%
Statistically, the more education one is, the more likely to be an
atheist.
³The researchers found acceptance or rejection of atheists is
related
not only to personal religiosity, but also to oneıs exposure to
diversity, education and political orientation < with more educated,
East and West Coast Americans more accepting of atheists than their
Midwestern counterparts.²
Ok, I'll take you at your word which is taking a risk if I go by your
past.
Because we all know that if people prove you wrong they are liars.
But now tell me how many big atheist charities there are/how much
atheists
as opposed to theists give to charity.
Charities are mostly a scam. Further, if you take away the money given
to the churches theists give almost nothing.
I would be interested to know what
atheist charities responded to the hurricane in New Orleans?
Atheists responded. I certainly did. But since they are not
³organized² they are not tracked.
I'm just
interested, I'm have no agenda ... I know Christians will accept help
from
atheists in their charitable organizations. I don't want to get into
an
argument about religion.
Sure. Here are a couple of facts for you - atheists are likely to be
more educated than the religious, and atheists are far more likely to
adopt.
Don't want to get into an argument about charity ... If atheists are more
educated, obviously you are not an atheist ... I wouldn't mention David
W.
Barnes and education in the same sentence. But thats just me.
So, basically, you have totally lost on the debates and are now reduced
to childish insults.
You can call it an insult ... it was a criticism of the totality of your
lack of history and your use of your 'feelings' rather than fact to base
your arguments. I've given you facts that you acknowledged and blew them
off as if they didn't exist. I never ask you to agree with my conclusions.
There are plenty of people out there who disagree with me and accept the
same facts I do and have an argument counter to mine ... I can accept that
.... the debate should always be had. Anyway it tongue in cheek ... It I
offended you please accept my apologies.
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! |
07 Feb 2007 10:09:01 PM |
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In article <Xns98D05770B378DSD@69.28.173.184>, BOB <sd@sd.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in
news:070220070802150504%dwbarnes@barnsco.com:
In article <EIGdne-M-IYeaFTYnZ2dnUVZ_tunnZ2d@comcast.com>, Osprey
<NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
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"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in
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"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
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"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in
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"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
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"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"weatherwax" <weatherwax@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in message
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"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in
If you accept that civilians get killed in wars, and you
advocate war, you advocate the killing of civilians.
Obviously, and a recognition of reality.
There is some progress. You now recognize that advocating
war is advocating the killing of civilians. Earliar, when
I accused you of advocating the killing of innocent
civilians, you denied it. Your own words on January 1:
No, I'm not advocating killing more innocent
civilians. I'm just recognizing reality that in war
civilians get killed.
No, Mr Weatherwax you are wrong. I have never advocated the
killing of innocent civilians as an aim of war.
Moving the goalposts.
Wrong its your reading comprehension. The US does kill
civilians in this war, but it isn't the aim to kill civilians
... you know like setting off bombs in places where one knows
there will be lots of civilians.
I recognized the fact that innocent
civilians get killed in war.
You want war
You know that innocent civilians get killed in war
Yes I do recognize that innocent civilians get killed in war
... do you hold that standard to WWII? ... that civilians
shouldn't get killed so we should let the Axis nations take
over?
Thus, you want innocent civilians to get killed.
Wrong ... try to avoid civilian casualties ... not a goal to
see how many civilians one can kill. Very simple concept
Honest Ray.
Muslim jihadists aim
is to kill innocent civilians .
Using your bigotry to excuse YOUR wish to see innocent people
die is disgusting.
You are a real hoot, Honest Ray.
Ray is right on target regarding this issue, dishonest JoIrkin.
You on the other hand are deluding yourself.
Well, Bob why don't you point out my bigotry ... do you, like
Honest Ray, think that Muslim jihadist should be allowed to go
on killing people like they do all over the world? ...
No one "should be allowed to go on killing people like they do
all over the world", not_even_America, JoIrkin.
How do you propose that the killing stop?
If we could eliminate all religions everywhere, it would be a good
start.
So much for the liberal lie that liberals believe in freedom.
BOB provides proof that they want domination and control.
You are an idiot.
That's a given.
The religious fools and fanatics don't want to admit that their religions
are the driving force behind a majority of the wars and the killing that
is going on now, as well as in the past. I'll say it again, eliminate
religion and you will eliminate a majority of the wars and killing that
is going on now and in the future.
Iım with ya, brother. I have said it before and I will say it again -
Religion Is The Root Of All Evil.
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| User: "BOB" |
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| Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! |
07 Feb 2007 11:16:51 PM |
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"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in
news:070220072009016688%dwbarnes@barnsco.com:
In article <Xns98D05770B378DSD@69.28.173.184>, BOB <sd@sd.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in
news:070220070802150504%dwbarnes@barnsco.com:
In article <EIGdne-M-IYeaFTYnZ2dnUVZ_tunnZ2d@comcast.com>, Osprey
<NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
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"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in
news:eqcs20$kob$1@news04.infoave.net:
"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
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"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in
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"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
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"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"weatherwax" <weatherwax@worldnet.att.net> wrote in
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"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in
If you accept that civilians get killed in wars, and
you advocate war, you advocate the killing of
civilians.
Obviously, and a recognition of reality.
There is some progress. You now recognize that
advocating war is advocating the killing of civilians.
Earliar, when I accused you of advocating the killing of
innocent civilians, you denied it. Your own words on
January 1:
No, I'm not advocating killing more innocent
civilians. I'm just recognizing reality that in
war civilians get killed.
No, Mr Weatherwax you are wrong. I have never advocated
the killing of innocent civilians as an aim of war.
Moving the goalposts.
Wrong its your reading comprehension. The US does kill
civilians in this war, but it isn't the aim to kill
civilians ... you know like setting off bombs in places
where one knows there will be lots of civilians.
I recognized the fact that innocent
civilians get killed in war.
You want war
You know that innocent civilians get killed in war
Yes I do recognize that innocent civilians get killed in
war ... do you hold that standard to WWII? ... that
civilians shouldn't get killed so we should let the Axis
nations take over?
Thus, you want innocent civilians to get killed.
Wrong ... try to avoid civilian casualties ... not a goal
to see how many civilians one can kill. Very simple
concept Honest Ray.
Muslim jihadists aim
is to kill innocent civilians .
Using your bigotry to excuse YOUR wish to see innocent
people die is disgusting.
You are a real hoot, Honest Ray.
Ray is right on target regarding this issue, dishonest
JoIrkin. You on the other hand are deluding yourself.
Well, Bob why don't you point out my bigotry ... do you, like
Honest Ray, think that Muslim jihadist should be allowed to
go on killing people like they do all over the world? ...
No one "should be allowed to go on killing people like they do
all over the world", not_even_America, JoIrkin.
How do you propose that the killing stop?
If we could eliminate all religions everywhere, it would be a
good start.
So much for the liberal lie that liberals believe in freedom.
BOB provides proof that they want domination and control.
You are an idiot.
That's a given.
The religious fools and fanatics don't want to admit that their
religions are the driving force behind a majority of the wars and the
killing that is going on now, as well as in the past. I'll say it
again, eliminate religion and you will eliminate a majority of the
wars and killing that is going on now and in the future.
Iım with ya, brother. I have said it before and I will say it again -
Religion Is The Root Of All Evil.
It's amazing (and disappointing) to me that more people don't see it.
.
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! |
07 Feb 2007 11:22:17 PM |
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"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message news:Xns98D0D87C4B2C0SD@69.28.173.184...
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in
news:070220072009016688%dwbarnes@barnsco.com:
In article <Xns98D05770B378DSD@69.28.173.184>, BOB <sd@sd.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in
news:070220070802150504%dwbarnes@barnsco.com:
In article <EIGdne-M-IYeaFTYnZ2dnUVZ_tunnZ2d@comcast.com>, Osprey
<NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
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"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in
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Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"weatherwax" <weatherwax@worldnet.att.net> wrote in
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"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in
If you accept that civilians get killed in wars, and
you advocate war, you advocate the killing of
civilians.
Obviously, and a recognition of reality.
There is some progress. You now recognize that
advocating war is advocating the killing of civilians.
Earliar, when I accused you of advocating the killing of
innocent civilians, you denied it. Your own words on
January 1:
No, I'm not advocating killing more innocent
civilians. I'm just recognizing reality that in
war civilians get killed.
No, Mr Weatherwax you are wrong. I have never advocated
the killing of innocent civilians as an aim of war.
Moving the goalposts.
Wrong its your reading comprehension. The US does kill
civilians in this war, but it isn't the aim to kill
civilians ... you know like setting off bombs in places
where one knows there will be lots of civilians.
I recognized the fact that innocent
civilians get killed in war.
You want war
You know that innocent civilians get killed in war
Yes I do recognize that innocent civilians get killed in
war ... do you hold that standard to WWII? ... that
civilians shouldn't get killed so we should let the Axis
nations take over?
Thus, you want innocent civilians to get killed.
Wrong ... try to avoid civilian casualties ... not a goal
to see how many civilians one can kill. Very simple
concept Honest Ray.
Muslim jihadists aim
is to kill innocent civilians .
Using your bigotry to excuse YOUR wish to see innocent
people die is disgusting.
You are a real hoot, Honest Ray.
Ray is right on target regarding this issue, dishonest
JoIrkin. You on the other hand are deluding yourself.
Well, Bob why don't you point out my bigotry ... do you, like
Honest Ray, think that Muslim jihadist should be allowed to
go on killing people like they do all over the world? ...
No one "should be allowed to go on killing people like they do
all over the world", not_even_America, JoIrkin.
How do you propose that the killing stop?
If we could eliminate all religions everywhere, it would be a
good start.
So much for the liberal lie that liberals believe in freedom.
BOB provides proof that they want domination and control.
You are an idiot.
That's a given.
The religious fools and fanatics don't want to admit that their
religions are the driving force behind a majority of the wars and the
killing that is going on now, as well as in the past. I'll say it
again, eliminate religion and you will eliminate a majority of the
wars and killing that is going on now and in the future.
Iım with ya, brother. I have said it before and I will say it again -
Religion Is The Root Of All Evil.
It's amazing (and disappointing) to me that more people don't see it.
And I'll say it again.
Liberals do not support personal freedoms..
As BOOB and Barnes display in this post. This wish to deny people their
freedoms.
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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| Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! |
08 Feb 2007 07:59:55 PM |
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In article <BMWdneIeafUULlfYnZ2dnUVZ_uKknZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
And I'll say it again.
Liberals do not support personal freedoms..
"If you are going to make the claim, prove it. "
coward bobby heishman posting as osprey
news:8912d58d.0307090126.4a25ab87@posting.google.com:
"Your statement is to be considered a lie until you
can prove it to be true."
"osprey" in <1161104485.981302.246...@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! |
09 Feb 2007 09:22:22 AM |
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In article <BMWdneIeafUULlfYnZ2dnUVZ_uKknZ2d@comcast.com>, Osprey
<NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message news:Xns98D0D87C4B2C0SD@69.28.173.184...
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in
news:070220072009016688%dwbarnes@barnsco.com:
In article <Xns98D05770B378DSD@69.28.173.184>, BOB <sd@sd.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in
news:070220070802150504%dwbarnes@barnsco.com:
In article <EIGdne-M-IYeaFTYnZ2dnUVZ_tunnZ2d@comcast.com>, Osprey
<NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
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"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in
news:eqcs20$kob$1@news04.infoave.net:
"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
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"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in
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"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
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"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"weatherwax" <weatherwax@worldnet.att.net> wrote in
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"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in message
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"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in
If you accept that civilians get killed in wars, and
you advocate war, you advocate the killing of
civilians.
Obviously, and a recognition of reality.
There is some progress. You now recognize that
advocating war is advocating the killing of civilians.
Earliar, when I accused you of advocating the killing of
innocent civilians, you denied it. Your own words on
January 1:
No, I'm not advocating killing more innocent
civilians. I'm just recognizing reality that in
war civilians get killed.
No, Mr Weatherwax you are wrong. I have never advocated
the killing of innocent civilians as an aim of war.
Moving the goalposts.
Wrong its your reading comprehension. The US does kill
civilians in this war, but it isn't the aim to kill
civilians ... you know like setting off bombs in places
where one knows there will be lots of civilians.
I recognized the fact that innocent
civilians get killed in war.
You want war
You know that innocent civilians get killed in war
Yes I do recognize that innocent civilians get killed in
war ... do you hold that standard to WWII? ... that
civilians shouldn't get killed so we should let the Axis
nations take over?
Thus, you want innocent civilians to get killed.
Wrong ... try to avoid civilian casualties ... not a goal
to see how many civilians one can kill. Very simple
concept Honest Ray.
Muslim jihadists aim
is to kill innocent civilians .
Using your bigotry to excuse YOUR wish to see innocent
people die is disgusting.
You are a real hoot, Honest Ray.
Ray is right on target regarding this issue, dishonest
JoIrkin. You on the other hand are deluding yourself.
Well, Bob why don't you point out my bigotry ... do you, like
Honest Ray, think that Muslim jihadist should be allowed to
go on killing people like they do all over the world? ...
No one "should be allowed to go on killing people like they do
all over the world", not_even_America, JoIrkin.
How do you propose that the killing stop?
If we could eliminate all religions everywhere, it would be a
good start.
So much for the liberal lie that liberals believe in freedom.
BOB provides proof that they want domination and control.
You are an idiot.
That's a given.
The religious fools and fanatics don't want to admit that their
religions are the driving force behind a majority of the wars and the
killing that is going on now, as well as in the past. I'll say it
again, eliminate religion and you will eliminate a majority of the
wars and killing that is going on now and in the future.
Iım with ya, brother. I have said it before and I will say it again -
Religion Is The Root Of All Evil.
It's amazing (and disappointing) to me that more people don't see it.
And I'll say it again.
Liberals do not support personal freedoms..
Look, you idiot, just because we believe you are kidding yourself
doesn't mean we donıt support the right to be a damn fool. Go for it.
As BOOB and Barnes display in this post. This wish to deny people their
freedoms.
No one said that, you moron. Back to the cave with you.
.
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| User: "BOB" |
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| Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! |
09 Feb 2007 10:31:30 AM |
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"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in
news:090220070722227213%dwbarnes@barnsco.com:
In article <BMWdneIeafUULlfYnZ2dnUVZ_uKknZ2d@comcast.com>, Osprey
<NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
news:Xns98D0D87C4B2C0SD@69.28.173.184...
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in
news:070220072009016688%dwbarnes@barnsco.com:
In article <Xns98D05770B378DSD@69.28.173.184>, BOB <sd@sd.net>
wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in
news:070220070802150504%dwbarnes@barnsco.com:
In article <EIGdne-M-IYeaFTYnZ2dnUVZ_tunnZ2d@comcast.com>,
Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
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"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in
news:eqcs20$kob$1@news04.infoave.net:
"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
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"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in
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"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
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"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"weatherwax" <weatherwax@worldnet.att.net> wrote in
message
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.att .ne t...
"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in message
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"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in
If you accept that civilians get killed in wars,
and you advocate war, you advocate the killing of
civilians.
Obviously, and a recognition of reality.
There is some progress. You now recognize that
advocating war is advocating the killing of
civilians. Earliar, when I accused you of advocating
the killing of innocent civilians, you denied it.
Your own words on January 1:
No, I'm not advocating killing more innocent
civilians. I'm just recognizing reality that
in war civilians get killed.
No, Mr Weatherwax you are wrong. I have never
advocated the killing of innocent civilians as an aim
of war.
Moving the goalposts.
Wrong its your reading comprehension. The US does kill
civilians in this war, but it isn't the aim to kill
civilians ... you know like setting off bombs in places
where one knows there will be lots of civilians.
I recognized the fact that innocent
civilians get killed in war.
You want war
You know that innocent civilians get killed in war
Yes I do recognize that innocent civilians get killed
in war ... do you hold that standard to WWII? ... that
civilians shouldn't get killed so we should let the
Axis nations take over?
Thus, you want innocent civilians to get killed.
Wrong ... try to avoid civilian casualties ... not a
goal to see how many civilians one can kill. Very
simple concept Honest Ray.
Muslim jihadists aim
is to kill innocent civilians .
Using your bigotry to excuse YOUR wish to see innocent
people die is disgusting.
You are a real hoot, Honest Ray.
Ray is right on target regarding this issue, dishonest
JoIrkin. You on the other hand are deluding yourself.
Well, Bob why don't you point out my bigotry ... do you,
like Honest Ray, think that Muslim jihadist should be
allowed to go on killing people like they do all over the
world? ...
No one "should be allowed to go on killing people like
they do all over the world", not_even_America, JoIrkin.
How do you propose that the killing stop?
If we could eliminate all religions everywhere, it would be
a good start.
So much for the liberal lie that liberals believe in freedom.
BOB provides proof that they want domination and control.
You are an idiot.
That's a given.
The religious fools and fanatics don't want to admit that their
religions are the driving force behind a majority of the wars and
the killing that is going on now, as well as in the past. I'll
say it again, eliminate religion and you will eliminate a
majority of the wars and killing that is going on now and in the
future.
Iım with ya, brother. I have said it before and I will say it
again - Religion Is The Root Of All Evil.
It's amazing (and disappointing) to me that more people don't see
it.
And I'll say it again.
Liberals do not support personal freedoms..
Look, you idiot, just because we believe you are kidding yourself
doesn't mean we donıt support the right to be a damn fool. Go for it.
As BOOB and Barnes display in this post. This wish to deny people
their freedoms.
No one said that, you moron. Back to the cave with you.
I guess the nutcase chick_hen_hawk heishman forgot that (s)he was an anti-
choice loon who wants to deny women their right to bodily autonomy, which
is a basic feedom for everyone in America.
.
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! |
09 Feb 2007 10:34:58 AM |
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"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message news:Xns98D256B93FDE4SD@69.28.173.184...
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in
news:090220070722227213%dwbarnes@barnsco.com:
In article <BMWdneIeafUULlfYnZ2dnUVZ_uKknZ2d@comcast.com>, Osprey
<NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
news:Xns98D0D87C4B2C0SD@69.28.173.184...
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in
news:070220072009016688%dwbarnes@barnsco.com:
In article <Xns98D05770B378DSD@69.28.173.184>, BOB <sd@sd.net>
wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in
news:070220070802150504%dwbarnes@barnsco.com:
In article <EIGdne-M-IYeaFTYnZ2dnUVZ_tunnZ2d@comcast.com>,
Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
news:Xns98D04F1EF4ED9SD@69.28.173.184...
"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in
news:eqcs20$kob$1@news04.infoave.net:
"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
news:Xns98CFA66977BAESD@69.28.173.184...
"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in
news:eqa9fv$nmg$1@news04.infoave.net:
"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
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"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"weatherwax" <weatherwax@worldnet.att.net> wrote in
message
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.att .ne t...
"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in message
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"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in
If you accept that civilians get killed in wars,
and you advocate war, you advocate the killing of
civilians.
Obviously, and a recognition of reality.
There is some progress. You now recognize that
advocating war is advocating the killing of
civilians. Earliar, when I accused you of advocating
the killing of innocent civilians, you denied it.
Your own words on January 1:
No, I'm not advocating killing more innocent
civilians. I'm just recognizing reality that
in war civilians get killed.
No, Mr Weatherwax you are wrong. I have never
advocated the killing of innocent civilians as an aim
of war.
Moving the goalposts.
Wrong its your reading comprehension. The US does kill
civilians in this war, but it isn't the aim to kill
civilians ... you know like setting off bombs in places
where one knows there will be lots of civilians.
I recognized the fact that innocent
civilians get killed in war.
You want war
You know that innocent civilians get killed in war
Yes I do recognize that innocent civilians get killed
in war ... do you hold that standard to WWII? ... that
civilians shouldn't get killed so we should let the
Axis nations take over?
Thus, you want innocent civilians to get killed.
Wrong ... try to avoid civilian casualties ... not a
goal to see how many civilians one can kill. Very
simple concept Honest Ray.
Muslim jihadists aim
is to kill innocent civilians .
Using your bigotry to excuse YOUR wish to see innocent
people die is disgusting.
You are a real hoot, Honest Ray.
Ray is right on target regarding this issue, dishonest
JoIrkin. You on the other hand are deluding yourself.
Well, Bob why don't you point out my bigotry ... do you,
like Honest Ray, think that Muslim jihadist should be
allowed to go on killing people like they do all over the
world? ...
No one "should be allowed to go on killing people like
they do all over the world", not_even_America, JoIrkin.
How do you propose that the killing stop?
If we could eliminate all religions everywhere, it would be
a good start.
So much for the liberal lie that liberals believe in freedom.
BOB provides proof that they want domination and control.
You are an idiot.
That's a given.
The religious fools and fanatics don't want to admit that their
religions are the driving force behind a majority of the wars and
the killing that is going on now, as well as in the past. I'll
say it again, eliminate religion and you will eliminate a
majority of the wars and killing that is going on now and in the
future.
Iım with ya, brother. I have said it before and I will say it
again - Religion Is The Root Of All Evil.
It's amazing (and disappointing) to me that more people don't see
it.
And I'll say it again.
Liberals do not support personal freedoms..
Look, you idiot, just because we believe you are kidding yourself
doesn't mean we donıt support the right to be a damn fool. Go for it.
As BOOB and Barnes display in this post. This wish to deny people
their freedoms.
No one said that, you moron. Back to the cave with you.
I guess the nutcase chick_hen_hawk heishman forgot that (s)he was an anti-
choice loon who wants to deny women their right to bodily autonomy, which
is a basic feedom for everyone in America.
Well well, BOB, who has me on ignore.
What BOB can't do is provide one single piece of evidence to support his
claim.
I happen to support abortion rights.
.
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! |
09 Feb 2007 08:56:58 PM |
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In article <eYidna3X0uUvP1HYnZ2dnUVZ_vyunZ2d@comcast.com>, Osprey
<NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message news:Xns98D256B93FDE4SD@69.28.173.184...
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in
news:090220070722227213%dwbarnes@barnsco.com:
In article <BMWdneIeafUULlfYnZ2dnUVZ_uKknZ2d@comcast.com>, Osprey
<NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
news:Xns98D0D87C4B2C0SD@69.28.173.184...
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in
news:070220072009016688%dwbarnes@barnsco.com:
In article <Xns98D05770B378DSD@69.28.173.184>, BOB <sd@sd.net>
wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in
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In article <EIGdne-M-IYeaFTYnZ2dnUVZ_tunnZ2d@comcast.com>,
Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
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"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in
If you accept that civilians get killed in wars,
and you advocate war, you advocate the killing of
civilians.
Obviously, and a recognition of reality.
There is some progress. You now recognize that
advocating war is advocating the killing of
civilians. Earliar, when I accused you of advocating
the killing of innocent civilians, you denied it.
Your own words on January 1:
No, I'm not advocating killing more innocent
civilians. I'm just recognizing reality that
in war civilians get killed.
No, Mr Weatherwax you are wrong. I have never
advocated the killing of innocent civilians as an aim
of war.
Moving the goalposts.
Wrong its your reading comprehension. The US does kill
civilians in this war, but it isn't the aim to kill
civilians ... you know like setting off bombs in places
where one knows there will be lots of civilians.
I recognized the fact that innocent
civilians get killed in war.
You want war
You know that innocent civilians get killed in war
Yes I do recognize that innocent civilians get killed
in war ... do you hold that standard to WWII? ... that
civilians shouldn't get killed so we should let the
Axis nations take over?
Thus, you want innocent civilians to get killed.
Wrong ... try to avoid civilian casualties ... not a
goal to see how many civilians one can kill. Very
simple concept Honest Ray.
Muslim jihadists aim
is to kill innocent civilians .
Using your bigotry to excuse YOUR wish to see innocent
people die is disgusting.
You are a real hoot, Honest Ray.
Ray is right on target regarding this issue, dishonest
JoIrkin. You on the other hand are deluding yourself.
Well, Bob why don't you point out my bigotry ... do you,
like Honest Ray, think that Muslim jihadist should be
allowed to go on killing people like they do all over the
world? ...
No one "should be allowed to go on killing people like
they do all over the world", not_even_America, JoIrkin.
How do you propose that the killing stop?
If we could eliminate all religions everywhere, it would be
a good start.
So much for the liberal lie that liberals believe in freedom.
BOB provides proof that they want domination and control.
You are an idiot.
That's a given.
The religious fools and fanatics don't want to admit that their
religions are the driving force behind a majority of the wars and
the killing that is going on now, as well as in the past. I'll
say it again, eliminate religion and you will eliminate a
majority of the wars and killing that is going on now and in the
future.
Iım with ya, brother. I have said it before and I will say it
again - Religion Is The Root Of All Evil.
It's amazing (and disappointing) to me that more people don't see
it.
And I'll say it again.
Liberals do not support personal freedoms..
Look, you idiot, just because we believe you are kidding yourself
doesn't mean we donıt support the right to be a damn fool. Go for it.
As BOOB and Barnes display in this post. This wish to deny people
their freedoms.
No one said that, you moron. Back to the cave with you.
I guess the nutcase chick_hen_hawk heishman forgot that (s)he was an anti-
choice loon who wants to deny women their right to bodily autonomy, which
is a basic feedom for everyone in America.
Well well, BOB, who has me on ignore.
Hypocrite.
What BOB can't do is provide one single piece of evidence to support his
claim.
³Proof is easy, but it will cost you.³ - Osprey 2/9/2007
I happen to support abortion rights.
No you donıt. You support women have legal abortion but want to change
what is legal.
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10 Feb 2007 12:56:00 AM |
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On Feb 9, 9:56 pm, "David W. Barnes" <dwbar...@barnsco.com> wrote:
In article <eYidna3X0uUvP1HYnZ2dnUVZ_vyun...@comcast.com>, Osprey
<NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"BOB" <s...@sd.net> wrote in messagenews:Xns98D256B93FDE4SD@69.28.173.1=
84...
"David W. Barnes" <dwbar...@barnsco.com> wrote in
news:090220070722227213%dwbarnes@barnsco.com:
In article <BMWdneIeafUULlfYnZ2dnUVZ_uKkn...@comcast.com>, Osprey
<NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"BOB" <s...@sd.net> wrote in message
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"David W. Barnes" <dwbar...@barnsco.com> wrote in
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In article <Xns98D05770B378...@69.28.173.184>, BOB <s...@sd.net>
wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbar...@barnsco.com> wrote in
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In article <EIGdne-M-IYeaFTYnZ2dnUVZ_tunn...@comcast.com>,
Osprey <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
"BOB" <s...@sd.net> wrote in message
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"David W. Barnes" <dwbar...@barnsco.com> wrote in
If you accept that civilians get killed in wars,
and you advocate war, you advocate the killing of
civilians.
Obviously, and a recognition of reality.
There is some progress. You now recognize that
advocating war is advocating the killing of
civilians. Earliar, when I accused you of advocati=
ng
the killing of innocent civilians, you denied it.
Your own words on January 1:
No, I'm not advocating killing more innocent
civilians. I'm just recognizing reality that
in war civilians get killed.
No, Mr Weatherwax you are wrong. I have never
advocated the killing of innocent civilians as an aim
of war.
Moving the goalposts.
Wrong its your reading comprehension. The US does ki=
ll
civilians in this war, but it isn't the aim to kill
civilians ... you know like setting off bombs in plac=
es
where one knows there will be lots of civilians.
I recognized the fact that innocent
civilians get killed in war.
You want war
You know that innocent civilians get killed in war
Yes I do recognize that innocent civilians get killed
in war ... do you hold that standard to WWII? ... that
civilians shouldn't get killed so we should let the
Axis nations take over?
Thus, you want innocent civilians to get killed.
Wrong ... try to avoid civilian casualties ... not a
goal to see how many civilians one can kill. Very
simple concept Honest Ray.
Muslim jihadists aim
is to kill innocent civilians .
Using your bigotry to excuse YOUR wish to see innoce=
nt
people die is disgusting.
You are a real hoot, Honest Ray.
Ray is right on target regarding this issue, dishonest
JoIrkin. You on the other hand are deluding yourself.
Well, Bob why don't you point out my bigotry ... do you,
like Honest Ray, think that Muslim jihadist should be
allowed to go on killing people like they do all over t=
he
world? ...
No one "should be allowed to go on killing people like
they do all over the world", not_even_America, JoIrkin.
How do you propose that the killing stop?
If we could eliminate all religions everywhere, it would be
a good start.
So much for the liberal lie that liberals believe in freedom.
BOB provides proof that they want domination and control.
You are an idiot.
That's a given.
The religious fools and fanatics don't want to admit that their
religions are the driving force behind a majority of the wars a=
nd
the killing that is going on now, as well as in the past. I'll
say it again, eliminate religion and you will eliminate a
majority of the wars and killing that is going on now and in the
future.
I=B9m with ya, brother. I have said it before and I will say it
again - Religion Is The Root Of All Evil.
It's amazing (and disappointing) to me that more people don't see
it.
And I'll say it again.
Liberals do not support personal freedoms..
Look, you idiot, just because we believe you are kidding yourself
doesn't mean we don=B9t support the right to be a damn fool. Go for=
it.
As BOOB and Barnes display in this post. This wish to deny people
their freedoms.
No one said that, you moron. Back to the cave with you.
I guess the nutcase chick_hen_hawk heishman forgot that (s)he was an =
anti-
choice loon who wants to deny women their right to bodily autonomy, w=
hich
is a basic feedom for everyone in America.
Well well, BOB, who has me on ignore.
Hypocrite.
What BOB can't do is provide one single piece of evidence to support his
claim.
=B3Proof is easy, but it will cost you.=B3 - Osprey 2/9/2007
I happen to support abortion rights.
No you don=B9t.
Yes, I do.
You support women have legal abortion
Exactly.
So we can see clearly you are confused.
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| Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! |
10 Feb 2007 10:13:47 AM |
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In article <1171090560.647837.12870@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
You support women have legal abortion
Exactly.
So we can see clearly you are confused.
Except, as you just cut and ran from, you also support making abortion
illegal.
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| Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! |
09 Feb 2007 09:13:18 PM |
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In article <Xns98D256B93FDE4SD@69.28.173.184>, BOB <sd@sd.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in
news:090220070722227213%dwbarnes@barnsco.com:
In article <BMWdneIeafUULlfYnZ2dnUVZ_uKknZ2d@comcast.com>, Osprey
<NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
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"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in
news:070220072009016688%dwbarnes@barnsco.com:
In article <Xns98D05770B378DSD@69.28.173.184>, BOB <sd@sd.net>
wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in
news:070220070802150504%dwbarnes@barnsco.com:
In article <EIGdne-M-IYeaFTYnZ2dnUVZ_tunnZ2d@comcast.com>,
Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
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"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
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Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:
"weatherwax" <weatherwax@worldnet.att.net> wrote in
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"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in message
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"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in
If you accept that civilians get killed in wars,
and you advocate war, you advocate the killing of
civilians.
Obviously, and a recognition of reality.
There is some progress. You now recognize that
advocating war is advocating the killing of
civilians. Earliar, when I accused you of advocating
the killing of innocent civilians, you denied it.
Your own words on January 1:
No, I'm not advocating killing more innocent
civilians. I'm just recognizing reality that
in war civilians get killed.
No, Mr Weatherwax you are wrong. I have never
advocated the killing of innocent civilians as an aim
of war.
Moving the goalposts.
Wrong its your reading comprehension. The US does kill
civilians in this war, but it isn't the aim to kill
civilians ... you know like setting off bombs in places
where one knows there will be lots of civilians.
I recognized the fact that innocent
civilians get killed in war.
You want war
You know that innocent civilians get killed in war
Yes I do recognize that innocent civilians get killed
in war ... do you hold that standard to WWII? ... that
civilians shouldn't get killed so we should let the
Axis nations take over?
Thus, you want innocent civilians to get killed.
Wrong ... try to avoid civilian casualties ... not a
goal to see how many civilians one can kill. Very
simple concept Honest Ray.
Muslim jihadists aim
is to kill innocent civilians .
Using your bigotry to excuse YOUR wish to see innocent
people die is disgusting.
You are a real hoot, Honest Ray.
Ray is right on target regarding this issue, dishonest
JoIrkin. You on the other hand are deluding yourself.
Well, Bob why don't you point out my bigotry ... do you,
like Honest Ray, think that Muslim jihadist should be
allowed to go on killing people like they do all over the
world? ...
No one "should be allowed to go on killing people like
they do all over the world", not_even_America, JoIrkin.
How do you propose that the killing stop?
If we could eliminate all religions everywhere, it would be
a good start.
So much for the liberal lie that liberals believe in freedom.
BOB provides proof that they want domination and control.
You are an idiot.
That's a given.
The religious fools and fanatics don't want to admit that their
religions are the driving force behind a majority of the wars and
the killing that is going on now, as well as in the past. I'll
say it again, eliminate religion and you will eliminate a
majority of the wars and killing that is going on now and in the
future.
Iım with ya, brother. I have said it before and I will say it
again - Religion Is The Root Of All Evil.
It's amazing (and disappointing) to me that more people don't see
it.
And I'll say it again.
Liberals do not support personal freedoms..
Look, you idiot, just because we believe you are kidding yourself
doesn't mean we donıt support the right to be a damn fool. Go for it.
As BOOB and Barnes display in this post. This wish to deny people
their freedoms.
No one said that, you moron. Back to the cave with you.
I guess the nutcase chick_hen_hawk heishman forgot that (s)he was an anti-
choice loon who wants to deny women their right to bodily autonomy, which
is a basic feedom for everyone in America.
Osprey is the poster boy for those who want to demonstrate what the
Right Wing is all about.
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| Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! |
09 Feb 2007 09:25:27 AM |
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"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in message
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In article <BMWdneIeafUULlfYnZ2dnUVZ_uKknZ2d@comcast.com>, Osprey
<NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
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"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in
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In article <Xns98D05770B378DSD@69.28.173.184>, BOB <sd@sd.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in
news:070220070802150504%dwbarnes@barnsco.com:
In article <EIGdne-M-IYeaFTYnZ2dnUVZ_tunnZ2d@comcast.com>, Osprey
<NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
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