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Topic: Religions > Bible
User: "Egalitarian"
Date: 28 Jan 2007 09:24:51 AM
Object: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !!
There are two ways to get our troops OUT of
Iraq - **NOW** !!
There's a good way and bad way.
First - the BAD way. That's the way it was done
this last week. 43 of them were killed. Thus, fully 43
of them *immediately* got out of Iraq. But the problem
with doing it that way is that it's rough on their families
and probably is rock bottom on the list of priorities that
most soldiers would have by way of methods of redeploy-
ment out of there. And too, it would take 'way too long.
At that rate -- around 5,000 per year -- it would take over
25 years to get them all out of Iraq. Warmonger-in-Thief
Bush is probably the *only* person who'd like to see us
being stuck there for that long.
Then there's the GOOD way: Congress immediately
and with the full force of law totally DE-FUNDS the war,
with the sole exception of the amount of money that it
would take to IMMEDIATELY get **all** of our troops
out of these, and back to America safely. That would
save countless of our soldiers' lives, and enable the
USA to regain some of the respect it lost worldwide
when the a-hole who stole the White House illegally
invaded another sovereign nation after LYING to every-
one in order to CON them into supporting his idiocy.
Some people disagree with the latter method. It
would be interesting to know how many of those same
people also are bone-dumb enough to be RRR Cult
lemmings.
- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
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User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 07 Feb 2007 10:11:58 PM
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message

Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in message


Its the ignorance of hate mongers like you.


People setting off bombs in crowed areas/flying planes into bldgs are real
nice people.


You and Bush are responsible for the deaths of a hundred times as many
people. You don't get to claim virtue simply because you don't have
the courage to die for what you believe.


Oh, I know you would think it was the US fault.

Did somebody else invade Iraq?

The Muslim jihadist are

You love to blame muslims.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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User: "Joe Irvin"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 08 Feb 2007 08:42:46 AM
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message

Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in message


Its the ignorance of hate mongers like you.


People setting off bombs in crowed areas/flying planes into bldgs are
real
nice people.


You and Bush are responsible for the deaths of a hundred times as many
people. You don't get to claim virtue simply because you don't have
the courage to die for what you believe.


Oh, I know you would think it was the US fault.


Did somebody else invade Iraq?

No. It was the US with a few allies.

The Muslim jihadist are


You love to blame muslims.

No, I blame Muslim JIHADISTS, Honest Ray. But then again who would expect
you to be honest?


--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net

.
User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 08 Feb 2007 10:52:07 PM
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message

Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message

Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in message


Its the ignorance of hate mongers like you.


People setting off bombs in crowed areas/flying planes into bldgs are
real
nice people.


You and Bush are responsible for the deaths of a hundred times as many
people. You don't get to claim virtue simply because you don't have
the courage to die for what you believe.


Oh, I know you would think it was the US fault.


Did somebody else invade Iraq?


No. It was the US with a few allies.

And so whose fault is it?

The Muslim jihadist are


You love to blame muslims.


No,

And yet you keep blaming Muslims.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: "Joe Irvin"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 09 Feb 2007 10:07:01 AM
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message

Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message

Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in message


Its the ignorance of hate mongers like you.


People setting off bombs in crowed areas/flying planes into bldgs are
real
nice people.


You and Bush are responsible for the deaths of a hundred times as many
people. You don't get to claim virtue simply because you don't have
the courage to die for what you believe.


Oh, I know you would think it was the US fault.


Did somebody else invade Iraq?


No. It was the US with a few allies.


And so whose fault is it?

Saddam's ... he adheres to the agreement and he's still in power. I ask you
Honest Ray, did Saddam violate the agreement that ended the Gulf War?


The Muslim jihadist are


You love to blame muslims.


No,


And yet you keep blaming Muslims.

Honest Ray, its the Muslim jihadists. You know Honest Ray, as many times as
I've told you this and you continue to ignore it, that shows that you are
lying when you accuse me of hating/killing etc of Muslims. That is the
definition of lying, know something is true and ignoring it and passing it
on ... didn't you accuse Bush of lying ... you hold him to a standard you
cannot uphold? I guess thats just you, Honest Ray.


--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net

.
User: "BOB"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 09 Feb 2007 10:43:00 AM
"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

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Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message

Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in message


Its the ignorance of hate mongers like you.


People setting off bombs in crowed areas/flying planes into bldgs
are real
nice people.


You and Bush are responsible for the deaths of a hundred times as
many people. You don't get to claim virtue simply because you
don't have the courage to die for what you believe.


Oh, I know you would think it was the US fault.


Did somebody else invade Iraq?


No. It was the US with a few allies.


And so whose fault is it?


Saddam's ... he adheres to the agreement and he's still in power. I
ask you Honest Ray, did Saddam violate the agreement that ended the
Gulf War?


The Muslim jihadist are


You love to blame muslims.


No,


And yet you keep blaming Muslims.


Honest Ray, its the Muslim jihadists. You know Honest Ray, as many
times as I've told you this and you continue to ignore it, that shows
that you are lying when you accuse me of hating/killing etc of
Muslims. That is the definition of lying, know something is true and
ignoring it and passing it on ... didn't you accuse Bush of lying ...
you hold him to a standard you cannot uphold? I guess thats just you,
Honest Ray.


Someone tell idiot JoIrkin that his so-called Muslim "Jihadists" are
all_Muslims and that the Bush rigime has been killing Muslims
indiscriminately in Iraq and Afghanistan.

--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net



.
User: "Joe Irvin"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 09 Feb 2007 12:51:18 PM
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Its the ignorance of hate mongers like you.


People setting off bombs in crowed areas/flying planes into bldgs
are real
nice people.


You and Bush are responsible for the deaths of a hundred times as
many people. You don't get to claim virtue simply because you
don't have the courage to die for what you believe.


Oh, I know you would think it was the US fault.


Did somebody else invade Iraq?


No. It was the US with a few allies.


And so whose fault is it?


Saddam's ... he adheres to the agreement and he's still in power. I
ask you Honest Ray, did Saddam violate the agreement that ended the
Gulf War?


The Muslim jihadist are


You love to blame muslims.


No,


And yet you keep blaming Muslims.


Honest Ray, its the Muslim jihadists. You know Honest Ray, as many
times as I've told you this and you continue to ignore it, that shows
that you are lying when you accuse me of hating/killing etc of
Muslims. That is the definition of lying, know something is true and
ignoring it and passing it on ... didn't you accuse Bush of lying ...
you hold him to a standard you cannot uphold? I guess thats just you,
Honest Ray.


Someone tell idiot JoIrkin that his so-called Muslim "Jihadists" are
all_Muslims and that the Bush rigime has been killing Muslims
indiscriminately in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Bob, don't think that brain transplant worked ... must be bad quality
control ... but then it could be global warming.



--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net




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User: "BOB"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 09 Feb 2007 08:27:29 PM
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Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

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Its the ignorance of hate mongers like you.


People setting off bombs in crowed areas/flying planes into
bldgs are real
nice people.


You and Bush are responsible for the deaths of a hundred times
as many people. You don't get to claim virtue simply because
you don't have the courage to die for what you believe.


Oh, I know you would think it was the US fault.


Did somebody else invade Iraq?


No. It was the US with a few allies.


And so whose fault is it?


Saddam's ... he adheres to the agreement and he's still in power. I
ask you Honest Ray, did Saddam violate the agreement that ended the
Gulf War?


The Muslim jihadist are


You love to blame muslims.


No,


And yet you keep blaming Muslims.


Honest Ray, its the Muslim jihadists. You know Honest Ray, as many
times as I've told you this and you continue to ignore it, that
shows that you are lying when you accuse me of hating/killing etc of
Muslims. That is the definition of lying, know something is true
and ignoring it and passing it on ... didn't you accuse Bush of
lying ... you hold him to a standard you cannot uphold? I guess
thats just you, Honest Ray.


Someone tell idiot JoIrkin that his so-called Muslim "Jihadists" are
all_Muslims and that the Bush rigime has been killing Muslims
indiscriminately in Iraq and Afghanistan.


Bob, don't think that brain transplant worked

Too bad JoIrkin, we had hoped that it would be successful and that you
would become somewhat lucid.

... must be bad quality
control

Apparently you were just too far gone, JoIrkin.

... but then it could be global warming.


Nope, I think it was your obsessive irrationality that did you in, JoIrkin.


--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net







.



User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 09 Feb 2007 10:34:14 AM
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:


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"David W. Barnes" <dwbarnes@barnsco.com> wrote in message


Its the ignorance of hate mongers like you.


People setting off bombs in crowed areas/flying planes into bldgs are
real
nice people.


You and Bush are responsible for the deaths of a hundred times as many
people. You don't get to claim virtue simply because you don't have
the courage to die for what you believe.


Oh, I know you would think it was the US fault.


Did somebody else invade Iraq?


No. It was the US with a few allies.


And so whose fault is it?


Saddam's ...

You're like any other terrorist who kills people and then blames them
for being killed.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.





User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 07 Feb 2007 01:10:43 PM
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:


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Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

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Muslim jihadists aim
is to kill innocent civilians .


Using your bigotry to excuse YOUR wish to see innocent people die is
disgusting.


You are a real hoot, Honest Ray.


Ray is right on target regarding this issue, dishonest JoIrkin. You
on
the other hand are deluding yourself.


Well, Bob why don't you point out my bigotry ...


easily done.

You don't spew hate about criminals, you attack MUSLIMS.

That's religious bigotry.


Its Muslim JIHADIST, Honest Ray.


Why not Christian terrorists? Why not Jewish Terrorists?
Why not American criminals?


I'm against all of the above Honest Ray.

And yet you never mention those.

Why is it that who you hate is, first and foremost, Muslim?


Honest Ray, again its the Muslim JIHADISTS.

Always you attack Muslims.
You're a religiuos bigot.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: "Joe Irvin"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 07 Feb 2007 01:49:05 PM
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Muslim jihadists aim
is to kill innocent civilians .


Using your bigotry to excuse YOUR wish to see innocent people die
is
disgusting.


You are a real hoot, Honest Ray.


Ray is right on target regarding this issue, dishonest JoIrkin. You
on
the other hand are deluding yourself.


Well, Bob why don't you point out my bigotry ...


easily done.

You don't spew hate about criminals, you attack MUSLIMS.

That's religious bigotry.


Its Muslim JIHADIST, Honest Ray.


Why not Christian terrorists? Why not Jewish Terrorists?
Why not American criminals?


I'm against all of the above Honest Ray.


And yet you never mention those.

Because in comparison they (Christian terrorists) are minor.


Why is it that who you hate is, first and foremost, Muslim?


Honest Ray, again its the Muslim JIHADISTS.


Always you attack Muslims.

Muslim jihadist, Honest Ray.


You're a religiuos bigot.

And you are dean of the clown college. ;) And a real hoot.

--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net

.
User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 07 Feb 2007 10:14:24 PM
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message

Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

You don't spew hate about criminals, you attack MUSLIMS.

That's religious bigotry.


Its Muslim JIHADIST, Honest Ray.


Why not Christian terrorists? Why not Jewish Terrorists?
Why not American criminals?


I'm against all of the above Honest Ray.


And yet you never mention those.


Because in comparison they (Christian terrorists) are minor.

More proof that you are a religious bigot. Israel alone has killed
several times as many Palestinians and Lebanese as the number of
people killed on 9/11. The number of people killed by the US invasion
of Iraq has killed a hundred times as many.

Why is it that who you hate is, first and foremost, Muslim?


Honest Ray, again its the Muslim JIHADISTS.


Always you attack Muslims.


Muslim jihadist, Honest Ray.

Your words above prove you to be a bigot.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: "Joe Irvin"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 08 Feb 2007 09:11:47 AM
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message

Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:


You don't spew hate about criminals, you attack MUSLIMS.

That's religious bigotry.


Its Muslim JIHADIST, Honest Ray.


Why not Christian terrorists? Why not Jewish Terrorists?
Why not American criminals?


I'm against all of the above Honest Ray.


And yet you never mention those.


Because in comparison they (Christian terrorists) are minor.


More proof that you are a religious bigot. Israel alone has killed
several times as many Palestinians and Lebanese as the number of
people killed on 9/11. The number of people killed by the US invasion
of Iraq has killed a hundred times as many.

Don't want to get into a argument about Israel/Palestine but you completely
ignore Israels past histroy with its neighbors. And if you used your head
as something other than a hat rack you would realize that Israel will
definitely lose a war of attrition. Israel will always as long as they are
hostilities with their neighbors, have to kill more of their enemies. Its
survival as a nation depends on this.


Why is it that who you hate is, first and foremost, Muslim?


Honest Ray, again its the Muslim JIHADISTS.


Always you attack Muslims.


Muslim jihadist, Honest Ray.


Your words above prove you to be a bigot.

No, you said I was a bigot, you didn't prove it.


--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net

.
User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 08 Feb 2007 10:54:26 PM
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message

Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:


You don't spew hate about criminals, you attack MUSLIMS.

That's religious bigotry.


Its Muslim JIHADIST, Honest Ray.


Why not Christian terrorists? Why not Jewish Terrorists?
Why not American criminals?


I'm against all of the above Honest Ray.


And yet you never mention those.


Because in comparison they (Christian terrorists) are minor.


More proof that you are a religious bigot. Israel alone has killed
several times as many Palestinians and Lebanese as the number of
people killed on 9/11. The number of people killed by the US invasion
of Iraq has killed a hundred times as many.


Don't want to get into a argument about Israel/Palestine but you completely
ignore Israels past histroy with its neighbors.

No, I don't.

And if you used your head
as something other than a hat rack you would realize that Israel will
definitely lose a war of attrition.

Is that suppose dto be some justification for an apartheid state?

Israel will always as long as they are
hostilities with their neighbors,

As long as Israel keeps killing innocent people, stealing their land,
and flauting international law there will continue to be hostilities.

Why is it that who you hate is, first and foremost, Muslim?


Honest Ray, again its the Muslim JIHADISTS.


Always you attack Muslims.


Muslim jihadist, Honest Ray.


Your words above prove you to be a bigot.


No, you said I was a bigot, you didn't prove it.

Who do you hate? Who do you want to kill?
Muslims.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: "Joe Irvin"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 09 Feb 2007 11:10:27 AM
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:


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Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message

Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:


You don't spew hate about criminals, you attack MUSLIMS.

That's religious bigotry.


Its Muslim JIHADIST, Honest Ray.


Why not Christian terrorists? Why not Jewish Terrorists?
Why not American criminals?


I'm against all of the above Honest Ray.


And yet you never mention those.


Because in comparison they (Christian terrorists) are minor.


More proof that you are a religious bigot. Israel alone has killed
several times as many Palestinians and Lebanese as the number of
people killed on 9/11. The number of people killed by the US invasion
of Iraq has killed a hundred times as many.


Don't want to get into a argument about Israel/Palestine but you
completely
ignore Israels past histroy with its neighbors.


No, I don't.

Then you don't know Israels history since its was formed in 1947 or 48.


And if you used your head
as something other than a hat rack you would realize that Israel will
definitely lose a war of attrition.


Is that suppose dto be some justification for an apartheid state?

Don't be such a clown ... repeating Jimmy Carters apartheid state make you
look like a world class bufoon ...
ATLANTA: Fourteen members of a Carter Center advisory board, who worked to
build support for the human rights organization started by former U.S.
President Jimmy Carter and his wife, have resigned in protest over Carter's
latest book.
The resignations, announced Thursday, are the latest in a backlash against
Carter's book "Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid," which has drawn fire from
Jewish groups, been attacked by fellow Democrats and led to the resignation
last month of Kenneth Stein, a Carter Center fellow and a longtime Carter
adviser. International Herald Tribune. Tons of website ... just Google.
And from Israel's Declaration of Establishment of State of Israel: THE
STATE OF ISRAEL will be open for Jewish immigration and for the Ingathering
of the Exiles; it will foster the development of the country for the benefit
of all its inhabitants; it will be based on freedom, justice and peace as
envisaged by the prophets of Israel; it will ensure complete equality of
social and political rights to all its inhabitants irrespective of religion,
race or sex; it will guarantee freedom of religion, conscience, language,
education and culture; it will safeguard the Holy Places of all religions;
and it will be faithful to the principles of the Charter of the United
Nations.
So what you say is bogus ... don't let the facts get in the way.


Israel will always as long as they are
hostilities with their neighbors,


As long as Israel keeps killing innocent people, stealing their land,
and flauting international law there will continue to be hostilities.

From someone who know little of Israels history since becoming a state.

Why is it that who you hate is, first and foremost, Muslim?


Honest Ray, again its the Muslim JIHADISTS.


Always you attack Muslims.


Muslim jihadist, Honest Ray.


Your words above prove you to be a bigot.


No, you said I was a bigot, you didn't prove it.


Who do you hate? Who do you want to kill?

Muslims.

Wrong ... Muslim jihadists, and you know that Honest Ray ... that make you a
liar, Honest Ray.


--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net

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User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 09 Feb 2007 12:48:50 PM
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message

Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message

You don't spew hate about criminals, you attack MUSLIMS.

That's religious bigotry.


Its Muslim JIHADIST, Honest Ray.


Why not Christian terrorists? Why not Jewish Terrorists?
Why not American criminals?


I'm against all of the above Honest Ray.


And yet you never mention those.


Because in comparison they (Christian terrorists) are minor.


More proof that you are a religious bigot. Israel alone has killed
several times as many Palestinians and Lebanese as the number of
people killed on 9/11. The number of people killed by the US invasion
of Iraq has killed a hundred times as many.


Don't want to get into a argument about Israel/Palestine but you
completely
ignore Israels past histroy with its neighbors.


No, I don't.


Then you don't know Israels history since its was formed in 1947 or 48.

Where did I say otherwise, bigot?
And did you know that Israel was created by terrorism?

And if you used your head
as something other than a hat rack you would realize that Israel will
definitely lose a war of attrition.


Is that suppose dto be some justification for an apartheid state?


Don't be such a clown ... repeating Jimmy Carters apartheid state make you
look like a world class bufoon ...

The usual ad hominem when the bigot is confronted by the truth.
Israel is an apartheid state. Attacking Carter won't change that
basic fact.

Israel will always as long as they are
hostilities with their neighbors,


As long as Israel keeps killing innocent people, stealing their land,
and flauting international law there will continue to be hostilities.


From someone who know little of Israels history since becoming a state.

The usual denial of the truth.

Muslim jihadist, Honest Ray.


Your words above prove you to be a bigot.


No, you said I was a bigot, you didn't prove it.


Who do you hate? Who do you want to kill?

Muslims.


Wrong ... Muslim jihadists,

Who are Muslims.
Proof that you're a religious bigot.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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User: "Joe Irvin"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 09 Feb 2007 01:29:51 PM
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You don't spew hate about criminals, you attack MUSLIMS.

That's religious bigotry.


Its Muslim JIHADIST, Honest Ray.


Why not Christian terrorists? Why not Jewish Terrorists?
Why not American criminals?


I'm against all of the above Honest Ray.


And yet you never mention those.


Because in comparison they (Christian terrorists) are minor.


More proof that you are a religious bigot. Israel alone has killed
several times as many Palestinians and Lebanese as the number of
people killed on 9/11. The number of people killed by the US invasion
of Iraq has killed a hundred times as many.


Don't want to get into a argument about Israel/Palestine but you
completely
ignore Israels past histroy with its neighbors.


No, I don't.


Then you don't know Israels history since its was formed in 1947 or 48.


Where did I say otherwise, bigot?

And did you know that Israel was created by terrorism?

Yes, terrorism on both sides, not just Israel.

And if you used your head
as something other than a hat rack you would realize that Israel will
definitely lose a war of attrition.


Is that suppose dto be some justification for an apartheid state?


Don't be such a clown ... repeating Jimmy Carters apartheid state make you
look like a world class bufoon ...


The usual ad hominem when the bigot is confronted by the truth.

You are an expert on ad hominem attacts, Honest Ray.

Israel is an apartheid state. Attacking Carter won't change that
basic fact.

I was attacking you thru Carter ... both world calss buffoons.

Israel will always as long as they are
hostilities with their neighbors,


As long as Israel keeps killing innocent people, stealing their land,
and flauting international law there will continue to be hostilities.


From someone who know little of Israels history since becoming a state.


The usual denial of the truth.

I deny your buffoonery.

Muslim jihadist, Honest Ray.


Your words above prove you to be a bigot.


No, you said I was a bigot, you didn't prove it.


Who do you hate? Who do you want to kill?

Muslims.


Wrong ... Muslim jihadists,


Who are Muslims.

But, not all Muslims ... a fact you will not recognize.


Proof that you're a religious bigot.

Good logic, Honest Ray. I hate Christian murders therefore I hate all
Christians. What a buffoon ... please take a break from your silliness


--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net

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Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 09 Feb 2007 09:08:35 PM
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:


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You don't spew hate about criminals, you attack MUSLIMS.

That's religious bigotry.


Its Muslim JIHADIST, Honest Ray.


Why not Christian terrorists? Why not Jewish Terrorists?
Why not American criminals?


I'm against all of the above Honest Ray.


And yet you never mention those.


Because in comparison they (Christian terrorists) are minor.


More proof that you are a religious bigot. Israel alone has killed
several times as many Palestinians and Lebanese as the number of
people killed on 9/11. The number of people killed by the US invasion
of Iraq has killed a hundred times as many.


Don't want to get into a argument about Israel/Palestine but you
completely
ignore Israels past histroy with its neighbors.


No, I don't.


Then you don't know Israels history since its was formed in 1947 or 48.


Where did I say otherwise, bigot?

And did you know that Israel was created by terrorism?


Yes, terrorism on both sides, not just Israel.

No. Zionists used terrorism to drive out Palestinians in order to
create a Jewish state.

And if you used your head
as something other than a hat rack you would realize that Israel will
definitely lose a war of attrition.


Is that suppose dto be some justification for an apartheid state?


Don't be such a clown ... repeating Jimmy Carters apartheid state make you
look like a world class bufoon ...


The usual ad hominem when the bigot is confronted by the truth.


You are an expert on ad hominem attacts, Honest Ray.

Another ad hominem.
It's all you have left once all of your propaganda is discredited.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
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Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 10 Feb 2007 12:45:57 PM
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You don't spew hate about criminals, you attack MUSLIMS.

That's religious bigotry.


Its Muslim JIHADIST, Honest Ray.


Why not Christian terrorists? Why not Jewish Terrorists?
Why not American criminals?


I'm against all of the above Honest Ray.


And yet you never mention those.


Because in comparison they (Christian terrorists) are minor.


More proof that you are a religious bigot. Israel alone has killed
several times as many Palestinians and Lebanese as the number of
people killed on 9/11. The number of people killed by the US
invasion
of Iraq has killed a hundred times as many.


Don't want to get into a argument about Israel/Palestine but you
completely
ignore Israels past histroy with its neighbors.


No, I don't.


Then you don't know Israels history since its was formed in 1947 or 48.


Where did I say otherwise, bigot?

And did you know that Israel was created by terrorism?


Yes, terrorism on both sides, not just Israel.


No. Zionists used terrorism to drive out Palestinians in order to
create a Jewish state.

As I said you have no history of the formation of the Jewish state of Israel
.... That is the short incorrect history of Israel.

And if you used your head
as something other than a hat rack you would realize that Israel will
definitely lose a war of attrition.


Is that suppose dto be some justification for an apartheid state?


Don't be such a clown ... repeating Jimmy Carters apartheid state make
you
look like a world class bufoon ...


The usual ad hominem when the bigot is confronted by the truth.


You are an expert on ad hominem attacts, Honest Ray.


Another ad hominem.

It's all you have left once all of your propaganda is discredited.

From one who has never used the ad hominem attack ... who main weapon IS the
'lie', mischaracterization of an opposing argument, red herring, and ad
hominem attack, Honest Ray.


--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net

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Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 10 Feb 2007 01:41:47 PM
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You don't spew hate about criminals, you attack MUSLIMS.

That's religious bigotry.


Its Muslim JIHADIST, Honest Ray.


Why not Christian terrorists? Why not Jewish Terrorists?
Why not American criminals?


I'm against all of the above Honest Ray.


And yet you never mention those.


Because in comparison they (Christian terrorists) are minor.


More proof that you are a religious bigot. Israel alone has killed
several times as many Palestinians and Lebanese as the number of
people killed on 9/11. The number of people killed by the US
invasion
of Iraq has killed a hundred times as many.


Don't want to get into a argument about Israel/Palestine but you
completely
ignore Israels past histroy with its neighbors.


No, I don't.


Then you don't know Israels history since its was formed in 1947 or 48.


Where did I say otherwise, bigot?

And did you know that Israel was created by terrorism?


Yes, terrorism on both sides, not just Israel.


No. Zionists used terrorism to drive out Palestinians in order to
create a Jewish state.


As I said you have no history of the formation of the Jewish state of Israel

You've shown that you have no regard for the truth. Just look up
"right of return" to see the proof of zionist terrorism.

And if you used your head
as something other than a hat rack you would realize that Israel will
definitely lose a war of attrition.


Is that suppose dto be some justification for an apartheid state?


Don't be such a clown ... repeating Jimmy Carters apartheid state make
you
look like a world class bufoon ...


The usual ad hominem when the bigot is confronted by the truth.


You are an expert on ad hominem attacts, Honest Ray.


Another ad hominem.

It's all you have left once all of your propaganda is discredited.


From one who has never used the ad hominem attack .

You have little else but ad hominems and slanted propaganda.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 10 Feb 2007 02:43:59 PM
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You don't spew hate about criminals, you attack MUSLIMS.

That's religious bigotry.


Its Muslim JIHADIST, Honest Ray.


Why not Christian terrorists? Why not Jewish Terrorists?
Why not American criminals?


I'm against all of the above Honest Ray.


And yet you never mention those.


Because in comparison they (Christian terrorists) are minor.


More proof that you are a religious bigot. Israel alone has
killed
several times as many Palestinians and Lebanese as the number of
people killed on 9/11. The number of people killed by the US
invasion
of Iraq has killed a hundred times as many.


Don't want to get into a argument about Israel/Palestine but you
completely
ignore Israels past histroy with its neighbors.


No, I don't.


Then you don't know Israels history since its was formed in 1947 or
48.


Where did I say otherwise, bigot?

And did you know that Israel was created by terrorism?


Yes, terrorism on both sides, not just Israel.


No. Zionists used terrorism to drive out Palestinians in order to
create a Jewish state.


As I said you have no history of the formation of the Jewish state of
Israel


You've shown that you have no regard for the truth. Just look up
"right of return" to see the proof of zionist terrorism.

If you think it so important, post it. I'm not going down one of your dead
end rabit trails. It its important post it. The short answer is that the
new State of Israel would let the people living there stay if they supported
the govt ... it was their Muslim brothers who told them to leave, that they
were going to push the Israelis into the sea ... it didn't happen. Israel
set up a fund for people who were displaced ... did the Arabs set up a fund
for the Israelis that were displaced?

And if you used your head
as something other than a hat rack you would realize that Israel
will
definitely lose a war of attrition.


Is that suppose dto be some justification for an apartheid state?


Don't be such a clown ... repeating Jimmy Carters apartheid state make
you
look like a world class bufoon ...


The usual ad hominem when the bigot is confronted by the truth.


You are an expert on ad hominem attacts, Honest Ray.


Another ad hominem.

It's all you have left once all of your propaganda is discredited.


From one who has never used the ad hominem attack .


You have little else but ad hominems and slanted propaganda.

ZZZZZZZZZZZ


--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net

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Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 10 Feb 2007 05:01:23 PM
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You don't spew hate about criminals, you attack MUSLIMS.

That's religious bigotry.


Its Muslim JIHADIST, Honest Ray.


Why not Christian terrorists? Why not Jewish Terrorists?
Why not American criminals?


I'm against all of the above Honest Ray.


And yet you never mention those.


Because in comparison they (Christian terrorists) are minor.


More proof that you are a religious bigot. Israel alone has
killed
several times as many Palestinians and Lebanese as the number of
people killed on 9/11. The number of people killed by the US
invasion
of Iraq has killed a hundred times as many.


Don't want to get into a argument about Israel/Palestine but you
completely
ignore Israels past histroy with its neighbors.


No, I don't.


Then you don't know Israels history since its was formed in 1947 or
48.


Where did I say otherwise, bigot?

And did you know that Israel was created by terrorism?


Yes, terrorism on both sides, not just Israel.


No. Zionists used terrorism to drive out Palestinians in order to
create a Jewish state.


As I said you have no history of the formation of the Jewish state of
Israel


You've shown that you have no regard for the truth. Just look up
"right of return" to see the proof of zionist terrorism.


If you think it so important, post it. I'm not going down one of your dead

Run away, chickenhawk bigot.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 10 Feb 2007 07:08:49 PM
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You don't spew hate about criminals, you attack MUSLIMS.

That's religious bigotry.


Its Muslim JIHADIST, Honest Ray.


Why not Christian terrorists? Why not Jewish Terrorists?
Why not American criminals?


I'm against all of the above Honest Ray.


And yet you never mention those.


Because in comparison they (Christian terrorists) are minor.


More proof that you are a religious bigot. Israel alone has
killed
several times as many Palestinians and Lebanese as the number of
people killed on 9/11. The number of people killed by the US
invasion
of Iraq has killed a hundred times as many.


Don't want to get into a argument about Israel/Palestine but you
completely
ignore Israels past histroy with its neighbors.


No, I don't.


Then you don't know Israels history since its was formed in 1947 or
48.


Where did I say otherwise, bigot?

And did you know that Israel was created by terrorism?


Yes, terrorism on both sides, not just Israel.


No. Zionists used terrorism to drive out Palestinians in order to
create a Jewish state.


As I said you have no history of the formation of the Jewish state of
Israel


You've shown that you have no regard for the truth. Just look up
"right of return" to see the proof of zionist terrorism.


If you think it so important, post it. I'm not going down one of your
dead


Run away, chickenhawk bigot.

You say 'right to return' is so important and I ask you post it and you
don't ... and you say I'm running away??? Honest Ray, you are quite the
clown. Who is the bigot, Tell me which of these traditional Muslim values
you are for ... chaste
before marriage/against abortion/strong family/rap music demeaning
women/radical feminism etc. ... Honest Ray, do you support these?


--
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Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 11 Feb 2007 01:22:01 AM
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You don't spew hate about criminals, you attack MUSLIMS.

That's religious bigotry.


Its Muslim JIHADIST, Honest Ray.


Why not Christian terrorists? Why not Jewish Terrorists?
Why not American criminals?


I'm against all of the above Honest Ray.


And yet you never mention those.


Because in comparison they (Christian terrorists) are minor.


More proof that you are a religious bigot. Israel alone has
killed
several times as many Palestinians and Lebanese as the number of
people killed on 9/11. The number of people killed by the US
invasion
of Iraq has killed a hundred times as many.


Don't want to get into a argument about Israel/Palestine but you
completely
ignore Israels past histroy with its neighbors.


No, I don't.


Then you don't know Israels history since its was formed in 1947 or
48.


Where did I say otherwise, bigot?

And did you know that Israel was created by terrorism?


Yes, terrorism on both sides, not just Israel.


No. Zionists used terrorism to drive out Palestinians in order to
create a Jewish state.


As I said you have no history of the formation of the Jewish state of
Israel


You've shown that you have no regard for the truth. Just look up
"right of return" to see the proof of zionist terrorism.


If you think it so important, post it. I'm not going down one of your
dead


Run away, chickenhawk bigot.


You say 'right to return' is so important and I ask you post it and you
don't .

You don't believe anything I post so I provided you with all the
information you need to look it up yourself

Who is the bigot, Tell me which of these traditional Muslim values

Stereotyping is a classic tactic of the bigot.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 11 Feb 2007 01:07:09 PM
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You don't spew hate about criminals, you attack MUSLIMS.

That's religious bigotry.


Its Muslim JIHADIST, Honest Ray.


Why not Christian terrorists? Why not Jewish Terrorists?
Why not American criminals?


I'm against all of the above Honest Ray.


And yet you never mention those.


Because in comparison they (Christian terrorists) are minor.


More proof that you are a religious bigot. Israel alone has
killed
several times as many Palestinians and Lebanese as the number
of
people killed on 9/11. The number of people killed by the US
invasion
of Iraq has killed a hundred times as many.


Don't want to get into a argument about Israel/Palestine but you
completely
ignore Israels past histroy with its neighbors.


No, I don't.


Then you don't know Israels history since its was formed in 1947
or
48.


Where did I say otherwise, bigot?

And did you know that Israel was created by terrorism?


Yes, terrorism on both sides, not just Israel.


No. Zionists used terrorism to drive out Palestinians in order to
create a Jewish state.


As I said you have no history of the formation of the Jewish state of
Israel


You've shown that you have no regard for the truth. Just look up
"right of return" to see the proof of zionist terrorism.


If you think it so important, post it. I'm not going down one of your
dead


Run away, chickenhawk bigot.


You say 'right to return' is so important and I ask you post it and you
don't .


You don't believe anything I post so I provided you with all the
information you need to look it up yourself

Its your claim ... you provide the proof.

Who is the bigot, Tell me which of these traditional Muslim values


Stereotyping is a classic tactic of the bigot.

See other posts.


--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net

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Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 11 Feb 2007 02:19:32 PM
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You don't spew hate about criminals, you attack MUSLIMS.

That's religious bigotry.


Its Muslim JIHADIST, Honest Ray.


Why not Christian terrorists? Why not Jewish Terrorists?
Why not American criminals?


I'm against all of the above Honest Ray.


And yet you never mention those.


Because in comparison they (Christian terrorists) are minor.


More proof that you are a religious bigot. Israel alone has
killed
several times as many Palestinians and Lebanese as the number
of
people killed on 9/11. The number of people killed by the US
invasion
of Iraq has killed a hundred times as many.


Don't want to get into a argument about Israel/Palestine but you
completely
ignore Israels past histroy with its neighbors.


No, I don't.


Then you don't know Israels history since its was formed in 1947
or
48.


Where did I say otherwise, bigot?

And did you know that Israel was created by terrorism?


Yes, terrorism on both sides, not just Israel.


No. Zionists used terrorism to drive out Palestinians in order to
create a Jewish state.


As I said you have no history of the formation of the Jewish state of
Israel


You've shown that you have no regard for the truth. Just look up
"right of return" to see the proof of zionist terrorism.


If you think it so important, post it. I'm not going down one of your
dead


Run away, chickenhawk bigot.


You say 'right to return' is so important and I ask you post it and you
don't .


You don't believe anything I post so I provided you with all the
information you need to look it up yourself


Its your claim ... you provide the proof.

Run away, coward.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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You don't spew hate about criminals, you attack
MUSLIMS.

That's religious bigotry.


Its Muslim JIHADIST, Honest Ray.


Why not Christian terrorists? Why not Jewish
Terrorists?
Why not American criminals?


I'm against all of the above Honest Ray.


And yet you never mention those.


Because in comparison they (Christian terrorists) are minor.


More proof that you are a religious bigot. Israel alone has
killed
several times as many Palestinians and Lebanese as the
number
of
people killed on 9/11. The number of people killed by the
US
invasion
of Iraq has killed a hundred times as many.


Don't want to get into a argument about Israel/Palestine but
you
completely
ignore Israels past histroy with its neighbors.


No, I don't.


Then you don't know Israels history since its was formed in 1947
or
48.


Where did I say otherwise, bigot?

And did you know that Israel was created by terrorism?


Yes, terrorism on both sides, not just Israel.


No. Zionists used terrorism to drive out Palestinians in order to
create a Jewish state.


As I said you have no history of the formation of the Jewish state
of
Israel


You've shown that you have no regard for the truth. Just look up
"right of return" to see the proof of zionist terrorism.


If you think it so important, post it. I'm not going down one of your
dead


Run away, chickenhawk bigot.


You say 'right to return' is so important and I ask you post it and you
don't .


You don't believe anything I post so I provided you with all the
information you need to look it up yourself


Its your claim ... you provide the proof.


Run away, coward.

You are a real hoot, Honest Ray. Your claim and I'm suppose to provide the
proof for your claim.


--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net

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If you accept that civilians get killed in wars, and you
advoca