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Topic: Religions > Bible
User: "Egalitarian"
Date: 28 Jan 2007 09:24:51 AM
Object: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !!
There are two ways to get our troops OUT of
Iraq - **NOW** !!
There's a good way and bad way.
First - the BAD way. That's the way it was done
this last week. 43 of them were killed. Thus, fully 43
of them *immediately* got out of Iraq. But the problem
with doing it that way is that it's rough on their families
and probably is rock bottom on the list of priorities that
most soldiers would have by way of methods of redeploy-
ment out of there. And too, it would take 'way too long.
At that rate -- around 5,000 per year -- it would take over
25 years to get them all out of Iraq. Warmonger-in-Thief
Bush is probably the *only* person who'd like to see us
being stuck there for that long.
Then there's the GOOD way: Congress immediately
and with the full force of law totally DE-FUNDS the war,
with the sole exception of the amount of money that it
would take to IMMEDIATELY get **all** of our troops
out of these, and back to America safely. That would
save countless of our soldiers' lives, and enable the
USA to regain some of the respect it lost worldwide
when the a-hole who stole the White House illegally
invaded another sovereign nation after LYING to every-
one in order to CON them into supporting his idiocy.
Some people disagree with the latter method. It
would be interesting to know how many of those same
people also are bone-dumb enough to be RRR Cult
lemmings.
- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
.

User: "Joe Irvin"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 31 Jan 2007 10:09:52 AM
How about winning?
"Egalitarian" <xanadu@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:1169997891.235336.4770@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

There are two ways to get our troops OUT of
Iraq - **NOW** !!

There's a good way and bad way.

First - the BAD way. That's the way it was done
this last week. 43 of them were killed. Thus, fully 43
of them *immediately* got out of Iraq. But the problem
with doing it that way is that it's rough on their families
and probably is rock bottom on the list of priorities that
most soldiers would have by way of methods of redeploy-
ment out of there. And too, it would take 'way too long.
At that rate -- around 5,000 per year -- it would take over
25 years to get them all out of Iraq. Warmonger-in-Thief
Bush is probably the *only* person who'd like to see us
being stuck there for that long.

Then there's the GOOD way: Congress immediately
and with the full force of law totally DE-FUNDS the war,
with the sole exception of the amount of money that it
would take to IMMEDIATELY get **all** of our troops
out of these, and back to America safely. That would
save countless of our soldiers' lives, and enable the
USA to regain some of the respect it lost worldwide
when the a-hole who stole the White House illegally
invaded another sovereign nation after LYING to every-
one in order to CON them into supporting his idiocy.

Some people disagree with the latter method. It
would be interesting to know how many of those same
people also are bone-dumb enough to be RRR Cult
lemmings.

- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>

.
User: "ouroboros rex"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 31 Jan 2007 10:37:34 AM
"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in message
news:epqf0f$uk1$1@news04.infoave.net...

How about winning?

lol Don't stop there - we're all waiting in anticipation of your
brilliant plan.

"Egalitarian" <xanadu@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:1169997891.235336.4770@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

There are two ways to get our troops OUT of
Iraq - **NOW** !!

There's a good way and bad way.

First - the BAD way. That's the way it was done
this last week. 43 of them were killed. Thus, fully 43
of them *immediately* got out of Iraq. But the problem
with doing it that way is that it's rough on their families
and probably is rock bottom on the list of priorities that
most soldiers would have by way of methods of redeploy-
ment out of there. And too, it would take 'way too long.
At that rate -- around 5,000 per year -- it would take over
25 years to get them all out of Iraq. Warmonger-in-Thief
Bush is probably the *only* person who'd like to see us
being stuck there for that long.

Then there's the GOOD way: Congress immediately
and with the full force of law totally DE-FUNDS the war,
with the sole exception of the amount of money that it
would take to IMMEDIATELY get **all** of our troops
out of these, and back to America safely. That would
save countless of our soldiers' lives, and enable the
USA to regain some of the respect it lost worldwide
when the a-hole who stole the White House illegally
invaded another sovereign nation after LYING to every-
one in order to CON them into supporting his idiocy.

Some people disagree with the latter method. It
would be interesting to know how many of those same
people also are bone-dumb enough to be RRR Cult
lemmings.

- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>



.
User: "weatherwax"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 31 Jan 2007 01:20:48 PM
"ouroboros rex" wrote

"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote

How about winning?


lol Don't stop there - we're all waiting in anticipation
of your brilliant plan.

We have already lost. What is there left to win?
--Wax
.
User: "ouroboros rex"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 31 Jan 2007 01:37:13 PM
"weatherwax" <weatherwax@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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"ouroboros rex" wrote

"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote

How about winning?


lol Don't stop there - we're all waiting in anticipation
of your brilliant plan.


We have already lost. What is there left to win?

Another 40 year cold war for Bush's oil and weapons pals. They're
workiing on it just as fast as they can. That'll buoy up that economy!
.
User: "weatherwax"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 31 Jan 2007 02:42:05 PM
"ouroboros rex" wrote

"weatherwax" <weatherwax@worldnet.att.net> wrote

"ouroboros rex" wrote

"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote

How about winning?


lol Don't stop there - we're all waiting in anticipation of your
brilliant plan.


We have already lost. What is there left to win?


Another 40 year cold war for Bush's oil and weapons
pals. They're workiing on it just as fast as they can.
That'll buoy up that economy!

Another 40 years? By that time, with continued escalation of the war, there
won't be any oil left to fight over.
--Wax
.

User: "Joe Irvin"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 01 Feb 2007 08:54:55 AM
"ouroboros rex" <c-bee1@NOSPUMMYitg.uiuc.edu> wrote in message
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"weatherwax" <weatherwax@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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"ouroboros rex" wrote

"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote

How about winning?


lol Don't stop there - we're all waiting in anticipation
of your brilliant plan.


We have already lost. What is there left to win?


Another 40 year cold war for Bush's oil and weapons pals. They're
workiing on it just as fast as they can. That'll buoy up that economy!

Ok so you know why the US is in the war why are the Mulsim jihadists in the
war remembering the scope to the war ... Europe/Asia/Africa.
.
User: "Server 13"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 01 Feb 2007 11:33:17 AM
"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in message
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"ouroboros rex" <c-bee1@NOSPUMMYitg.uiuc.edu> wrote in message
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"weatherwax" <weatherwax@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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"ouroboros rex" wrote

"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote

How about winning?


lol Don't stop there - we're all waiting in anticipation
of your brilliant plan.


We have already lost. What is there left to win?


Another 40 year cold war for Bush's oil and weapons pals. They're
workiing on it just as fast as they can. That'll buoy up that economy!


Ok so you know why the US is in the war why are the Mulsim jihadists in
the war remembering the scope to the war ... Europe/Asia/Africa.

We pissed them off. Then we went to Iraq, where they weren't.
If the Iraq war is supposed to be keeping terrorists over there, why are
they in Europe, Asia, and Africa?
You need to get your wars straight. We're not fighting in Europe, Asia or
Africa.
.
User: "Joe Irvin"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 01 Feb 2007 12:51:26 PM
"Server 13" <its@casual.com> wrote in message
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"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in message
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"ouroboros rex" <c-bee1@NOSPUMMYitg.uiuc.edu> wrote in message
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"weatherwax" <weatherwax@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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"ouroboros rex" wrote

"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote

How about winning?


lol Don't stop there - we're all waiting in anticipation
of your brilliant plan.


We have already lost. What is there left to win?


Another 40 year cold war for Bush's oil and weapons pals. They're
workiing on it just as fast as they can. That'll buoy up that economy!


Ok so you know why the US is in the war why are the Mulsim jihadists in
the war remembering the scope to the war ... Europe/Asia/Africa.


We pissed them off. Then we went to Iraq, where they weren't.

We had reason to go into Iraq, one can agree or disagree with this ...
Remember the agreement to end the Gulf war ... Saddam had to account for the
his weapon ... he fired on planes in the no fly zone to mention 2 reasons.


If the Iraq war is supposed to be keeping terrorists over there, why are
they in Europe, Asia, and Africa?

You need to get your wars straight. We're not fighting in Europe, Asia
or Africa.

Never said we were ... the Muslim jihadists are though ... the religion of
peace.



.
User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 02 Feb 2007 12:21:19 PM
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

We had reason to go into Iraq, one can agree or disagree with this ...

What reason is that?

Remember the agreement to end the Gulf war ...

Iraq did not have an agreement with the United States and the US is
not the world's police, judge, and jury.
Bush tried to get UN approval and was refused. The United Nations
did not consider Iraq's actons to be sufficient justification for an
invasion.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 02 Feb 2007 12:25:04 PM
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

We had reason to go into Iraq, one can agree or disagree with this ...


What reason is that?

Remember the agreement to end the Gulf war ...


Iraq did not have an agreement with the United States and the US is
not the world's police, judge, and jury.

Iraq had an agreement with the UN, of which they violated several times.
It's true, the US is not and should not be the worlds police, judge, and/or
jury.
That's the only part you said that was correct.


Bush tried to get UN approval and was refused. The United Nations
did not consider Iraq's actons to be sufficient justification for an
invasion.

The UN was very frustrated with Saddam's games and refusal to cooperate.
The UN did not stand in the way, and the UN warned Saddam several times.


--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net

.
User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 03 Feb 2007 01:50:32 AM
Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message

Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

We had reason to go into Iraq, one can agree or disagree with this ...


What reason is that?

Remember the agreement to end the Gulf war ...


Iraq did not have an agreement with the United States and the US is
not the world's police, judge, and jury.


Iraq had an agreement with the UN,

That's what I wrote, *****.

It's true, the US is not and should not be the worlds police, judge, and/or
jury.

Then you just eliminated the argument.

Bush tried to get UN approval and was refused. The United Nations
did not consider Iraq's actons to be sufficient justification for an
invasion.


The UN was very frustrated

Your rationalization for killing people counts for nothing.
The United Nations REFUSED to give permission for an invasion.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: "Joe Irvin"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 03 Feb 2007 11:45:33 AM
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Osprey <NoNeedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message

Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

We had reason to go into Iraq, one can agree or disagree with this ...


What reason is that?

Remember the agreement to end the Gulf war ...


Iraq did not have an agreement with the United States and the US is
not the world's police, judge, and jury.


Iraq had an agreement with the UN,


That's what I wrote, *****.

It's true, the US is not and should not be the worlds police, judge,
and/or
jury.


Then you just eliminated the argument.

Bush tried to get UN approval and was refused. The United Nations
did not consider Iraq's actons to be sufficient justification for an
invasion.


The UN was very frustrated


Your rationalization for killing people counts for nothing.
The United Nations REFUSED to give permission for an invasion.

Its the global warmings thats clouding may thinking Mr Fischer.


--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net

.



User: "Joe Irvin"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 02 Feb 2007 02:33:14 PM
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

We had reason to go into Iraq, one can agree or disagree with this ...


What reason is that?

The failure of the UN to enforce any of the resoultions against Iraq.

Remember the agreement to end the Gulf war ...


Iraq did not have an agreement with the United States and the US is
not the world's police, judge, and jury.

It had an agreement with the UN which the US carries one of the heavest
loads. For the UN to have any credibility at all it had to enforce
something, 1441 was the straw that broke the camels back ... talk had been
going on for 12 years and the UN was no closer to making Saddam comply then
they were when they first started.


Bush tried to get UN approval and was refused. The United Nations
did not consider Iraq's actons to be sufficient justification for an
invasion.

--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net

.
User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 03 Feb 2007 01:51:47 AM
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message

Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

We had reason to go into Iraq, one can agree or disagree with this ...


What reason is that?


The failure of the UN to enforce

They don't have to enforce ANY resolutions if they don't want to, you
murderous lunatic.

Remember the agreement to end the Gulf war ...


Iraq did not have an agreement with the United States and the US is
not the world's police, judge, and jury.


It had an agreement with the UN

Which is not the United States.

which the US carries one of the heavest
loads.

Which counts for nothing.

For the UN to have any credibility at all

For you to have any credibility you need to stop looking for any
excuse to kill people.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: "Joe Irvin"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 03 Feb 2007 11:47:36 AM
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message

Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

We had reason to go into Iraq, one can agree or disagree with this ...


What reason is that?


The failure of the UN to enforce


They don't have to enforce ANY resolutions if they don't want to, you
murderous lunatic.

How do you know. The UN has no enforcement arm. They have to call on th
member nations. You know nothing of the UN. .. its you ideology.


Remember the agreement to end the Gulf war ...


Iraq did not have an agreement with the United States and the US is
not the world's police, judge, and jury.


It had an agreement with the UN


Which is not the United States.

which the US carries one of the heavest
loads.


Which counts for nothing.

For the UN to have any credibility at all


For you to have any credibility you need to stop looking for any
excuse to kill people.

Global warming.


--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net

.
User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 03 Feb 2007 02:09:57 PM
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message

Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message

Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

We had reason to go into Iraq, one can agree or disagree with this ...


What reason is that?


The failure of the UN to enforce


They don't have to enforce ANY resolutions if they don't want to, you
murderous lunatic.


How do you know.

You're not world dictator. Neither is your Glorious Leader Bush.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: "Joe Irvin"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 03 Feb 2007 02:52:39 PM
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message

Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message

Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

We had reason to go into Iraq, one can agree or disagree with this ...


What reason is that?


The failure of the UN to enforce


They don't have to enforce ANY resolutions if they don't want to, you
murderous lunatic.


How do you know.


You're not world dictator. Neither is your Glorious Leader Bush.

Look Mr Fischer, just killfile everything you see my name on ... its that
simple. I don't know why you even want to respond to me ... according to
you I'm a religious bigot, murder, killer, hypocrite. What is your malady
that you would even want to respond to me? Why don't you just have a cup of
tea/coffee and relax in the troll lounge with your pals.


--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net

.
User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 03 Feb 2007 04:04:48 PM
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message

Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message

Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

We had reason to go into Iraq, one can agree or disagree with this ...


What reason is that?


The failure of the UN to enforce


They don't have to enforce ANY resolutions if they don't want to, you
murderous lunatic.


How do you know.


You're not world dictator. Neither is your Glorious Leader Bush.


Look Mr Fischer, just killfile everything you see my name on .

I prefer to show everybody that you're a religious bigot who wants ot
kill Muslims.

I don't know why you even want to respond to me ... according to
you I'm a religious bigot, murder, killer, hypocrite.

Now you're lying, as expected.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: "Joe Irvin"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 05 Feb 2007 09:06:27 AM
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message

Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message

Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

We had reason to go into Iraq, one can agree or disagree with this
...


What reason is that?


The failure of the UN to enforce


They don't have to enforce ANY resolutions if they don't want to, you
murderous lunatic.


How do you know.


You're not world dictator. Neither is your Glorious Leader Bush.


Look Mr Fischer, just killfile everything you see my name on .


I prefer to show everybody that you're a religious bigot who wants ot
kill Muslims.

Even people that disagree with the war know that the Muslim jihadists are
the religious bigots willling to kill all infidels ... that's fact ... I've
given you examples in previous posts.


I don't know why you even want to respond to me ... according to
you I'm a religious bigot, murder, killer, hypocrite.


Now you're lying, as expected.

I'm lying ... youv'e call me a religious bigot and lyer ... tell the truth
Honest Ray. Honest Ray and Big Deal David ... you two should open a used
car lot ... Honest Rays and Big Deal Davids Used Cars ... sounds good to me.
;)


--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net

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User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 05 Feb 2007 11:37:47 PM
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message

Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message

Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message

Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message

Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

We had reason to go into Iraq, one can agree or disagree with this
...


What reason is that?


The failure of the UN to enforce


They don't have to enforce ANY resolutions if they don't want to, you
murderous lunatic.


How do you know.


You're not world dictator. Neither is your Glorious Leader Bush.


Look Mr Fischer, just killfile everything you see my name on .


I prefer to show everybody that you're a religious bigot who wants ot
kill Muslims.


Even people that disagree with the war know that the Muslim jihadists are
the religious bigots willling to kill all infidels ...

Just like you're willing to kill Muslims.
You're just like them; all you understand is killing people.

I don't know why you even want to respond to me ... according to
you I'm a religious bigot, murder, killer, hypocrite.


Now you're lying, as expected.


I'm lying .

Yes.

youv'e call me a religious bigot and lyer .

You are.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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User: "Joe Irvin"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 06 Feb 2007 08:30:29 AM
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message

Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message

Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message

Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message

Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

We had reason to go into Iraq, one can agree or disagree with this
...


What reason is that?


The failure of the UN to enforce


They don't have to enforce ANY resolutions if they don't want to,
you
murderous lunatic.


How do you know.


You're not world dictator. Neither is your Glorious Leader Bush.


Look Mr Fischer, just killfile everything you see my name on .


I prefer to show everybody that you're a religious bigot who wants ot
kill Muslims.


Even people that disagree with the war know that the Muslim jihadists are
the religious bigots willling to kill all infidels ...


Just like you're willing to kill Muslims.

Honest Ray, 1st you left off Jihadist when you said I was 'willing to kill
Muslims' and you say nothing about them killing people. By the way you
would probably be on the Muslims jihadist short list to be murdered with
your views. You completely ignore there murdering, Honest Ray.


You're just like them; all you understand is killing people.

If we could all just get along, Honest Ray.


I don't know why you even want to respond to me ... according to
you I'm a religious bigot, murder, killer, hypocrite.


Now you're lying, as expected.


I'm lying .


Yes.

Honest Ray, the decider of truth.


youv'e call me a religious bigot and lyer .


You are.

And you Honest Ray know.


--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net

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User: "Joe Irvin"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 01 Feb 2007 08:53:02 AM
"weatherwax" <weatherwax@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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"ouroboros rex" wrote

"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote

How about winning?


lol Don't stop there - we're all waiting in anticipation
of your brilliant plan.


We have already lost. What is there left to win?

Maybe, or maybe not. What we have left to win is the survival of the West.


--Wax

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User: "Server 13"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 01 Feb 2007 11:31:14 AM
"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in message
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"weatherwax" <weatherwax@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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"ouroboros rex" wrote

"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote

How about winning?


lol Don't stop there - we're all waiting in anticipation
of your brilliant plan.


We have already lost. What is there left to win?


Maybe, or maybe not. What we have left to win is the survival of the
West.

Simply a ridiculous lie.
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User: "Joe Irvin"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 01 Feb 2007 12:52:44 PM
"Server 13" <its@casual.com> wrote in message
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"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in message
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"weatherwax" <weatherwax@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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"ouroboros rex" wrote

"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote

How about winning?


lol Don't stop there - we're all waiting in anticipation
of your brilliant plan.


We have already lost. What is there left to win?


Maybe, or maybe not. What we have left to win is the survival of the
West.


Simply a ridiculous lie.

Remove the US and Israel from the world ... who is still at war all over
world. The Muslim jihadists.



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User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 02 Feb 2007 12:21:58 PM
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

"Server 13" <its@casual.com> wrote in message

"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in message

How about winning?


lol Don't stop there - we're all waiting in anticipation
of your brilliant plan.


We have already lost. What is there left to win?


Maybe, or maybe not. What we have left to win is the survival of the
West.


Simply a ridiculous lie.


Remove the US and Israel from the world ... who is still at war all over
world. The Muslim jihadists.

Your religious bigotry isn't the truth.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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User: "Joe Irvin"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 02 Feb 2007 02:44:53 PM
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:45c38146$0$80043$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...

Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

"Server 13" <its@casual.com> wrote in message

"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in message


How about winning?


lol Don't stop there - we're all waiting in anticipation
of your brilliant plan.


We have already lost. What is there left to win?


Maybe, or maybe not. What we have left to win is the survival of the
West.


Simply a ridiculous lie.


Remove the US and Israel from the world ... who is still at war all over
world. The Muslim jihadists.


Your religious bigotry isn't the truth.

It would help if you gave some evidence of my religious bigotry. "Instead
of the Judeo-Christian distinction between temporal and spiritual authority,
Islam postualtes a dichotomy which divides the world into the House of Islam
and the House of War, which generates the absolute, unconditional, and
permanent duty to prosecute jihad. ... 'In the Muslim community, the holy
war is a religious duty, because of the universalism of the Muslim mission
and the [obligation to] convert everybody to Islam either by persuasion or
by force."' Islam, Western civilization & the nation state, Daniel Johnson.
Is it me thats the religious bigot or you that defend the "few jihadists".


--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net

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User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 03 Feb 2007 01:53:11 AM
Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message

Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

"Server 13" <its@casual.com> wrote in message

"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in message

How about winning?


lol Don't stop there - we're all waiting in anticipation
of your brilliant plan.


We have already lost. What is there left to win?


Maybe, or maybe not. What we have left to win is the survival of the
West.


Simply a ridiculous lie.


Remove the US and Israel from the world ... who is still at war all over
world. The Muslim jihadists.


Your religious bigotry isn't the truth.


It would help if you gave some evidence of my religious bigotry.

Your hatred of Muslims. Your attempt to blame Muslims for defending
themselves against murderous bigots like you.

"Instead
of the Judeo-Christian distinction between temporal and spiritual authority,
Islam postualtes a dichotomy which divides the world into the House of Islam

Hitler used similar tactics against Jews.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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User: "Joe Irvin"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 03 Feb 2007 11:48:53 AM
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message

Joe Irvin <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote:

"Server 13" <its@casual.com> wrote in message

"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in message


How about winning?


lol Don't stop there - we're all waiting in anticipation
of your brilliant plan.


We have already lost. What is there left to win?


Maybe, or maybe not. What we have left to win is the survival of the
West.


Simply a ridiculous lie.


Remove the US and Israel from the world ... who is still at war all over
world. The Muslim jihadists.


Your religious bigotry isn't the truth.


It would help if you gave some evidence of my religious bigotry.


Your hatred of Muslims. Your attempt to blame Muslims for defending
themselves against murderous bigots like you.

Must be global warming.


"Instead
of the Judeo-Christian distinction between temporal and spiritual
authority,
Islam postualtes a dichotomy which divides the world into the House of
Islam


Hitler used similar tactics against Jews.

Wonder what excuse he used ... Global warming wasn't in effect then?


--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net

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User: "rbwinn"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 03 Feb 2007 07:55:23 AM
On Feb 3, 12:53 am,
(Ray Fischer) wrote:

Joe Irvin <ji3...@sccoast.net> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <

> wrote in message

Joe Irvin <ji3...@sccoast.net> wrote:

"Server 13" <i...@casual.com> wrote in message

"Joe Irvin" <ji3...@sccoast.net> wrote in message

How about winning?


lol Don't stop there - we're all waiting in anticipation
of your brilliant plan.


We have already lost. What is there left to win?


Maybe, or maybe not. What we have left to win is the survival of the
West.


Simply a ridiculous lie.


Remove the US and Israel from the world ... who is still at war all over
world. The Muslim jihadists.


Your religious bigotry isn't the truth.


It would help if you gave some evidence of my religious bigotry.


Your hatred of Muslims. Your attempt to blame Muslims for defending
themselves against murderous bigots like you.

"Instead
of the Judeo-Christian distinction between temporal and spiritual authority,
Islam postualtes a dichotomy which divides the world into the House of Islam


Hitler used similar tactics against Jews.

--
Ray Fischer


Hey, Ray, I thought you pro-abortion people did not allow references
to Hitler.
Robert B. Winn
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User: "Joe Irvin"

Title: Re: Two Ways to Get Our Troops OUT of Iraq - **NOW** !! 31 Jan 2007 11:47:48 AM
"ouroboros rex" <c-bee1@NOSPUMMYitg.uiuc.edu> wrote in message
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"Joe Irvin" <ji3486@sccoast.net> wrote in message
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How about winning?


lol Don't stop there - we're all waiting in anticipation of your
brilliant plan.

I not a military expert, but obviously the US has forgot how to wage war
since WWII. What I do think that needs to be done is for the politicians
to let our military wage the war ... let the military make the rules of
engagement, disarm the Iraqi militias, etc. When your military wins 99% of
the battles in Vietnam/Iraq, is the best military in the world, best armed
and equiped one has to wonder why we cannot win. You either commit to win,
not just defend, or you never get involved. We could send 100,000 troops
but if they are just there to defend and not go on offense in the long run
you will lose ... Don't get involved in a war if you don't have the stomach
for it. The Pentagon is full of Generals that could devise a strategy to
win this war, but I doubt they can devise a stategy with all the restraints
the politicians put on them.

"Egalitarian" <xanadu@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:1169997891.235336.4770@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

There are two ways to get our troops OUT of
Iraq - **NOW** !!

There's a good way and bad way.

First - the BAD way. That's the way it was done
this last week. 43 of them were killed. Thus, fully 43
of them *immediately* got out of Iraq. But the problem
with doing it that way is that it's rough on their families
and probably is rock bottom on the list of priorities that
most soldiers would have by way of methods of redeploy-
ment out of there. And too, it would take 'way too long.
At that rate -- around 5,000 per year -- it would take over
25 years to get them all out of Iraq. Warmonger-in-Thief
Bush is probably the *only* person who'd like to see us
being stuck there for that long.

Then there's the GOOD way: Congress immediately
and with the full force of law totally DE-FUNDS the war,
with the sole exception of the amount of money that it
would take to IMMEDIATELY get **all** of our troops
out of these, and back to America safely. That would
save countless of our soldiers' lives, and enable the
USA to regain some of the respect it lost worldwide
when the a-hole who stole the White House illegally
invaded another sovereign nation after LYING to every-
one in order to CON them into supporting his idiocy.

Some people disagree with the latter method. It
would be interesting to know how many of those same
people also are bone-dumb enough to be RRR Cult
lemmings.

- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>





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