Create best child possible, as our future depends on it: bioethicist

By Amanda Dunn

Parents have an obligation to have the "best" child possible, and that
includes using genetic technologies to enhance humans. To neglect to
do so would consign future generations to chance, rather than making
rational choices about how we should live, Julian Savulescu, a
bioethicist at Oxford University and Melbourne's Murdoch Children's
Research Institute, said yesterday.

Speaking at a Centre for Applied Philosophy and Public Ethics seminar
at Melbourne University, Professor Savulescu said the idea of
enhancing children was no different from sending a child to the best
school.

"If you're going to have a child you should have the best child you
can," he said.

In the end, he argued, there were only two choices: either reject
medical technology in its entirety or embrace it. To want to engage in
only parts of it was morally ambiguous.

"Once we accept intervening in how things are naturally, for the
treatment of disease, relief of pain, we've accepted that we can
intervene in God's will or in nature for the better," he said. "And
why should we stop at relieving pain, or prolonging life? Surely what
matters is how well our lives go."

Copyright © 2004. The Sydney Morning Herald.

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The problem with creating these perfect individuals is that in time we
would only have one type of human being. Since they are so perfect and
fit in with the main herd, rutting and partying to their hearts
content, then where would those be that have the true brillance
through the trials and tribulations in their life?

Einstein was not much to look at but had a brilliant brain, instead of
hanging around the groups, because more then likely he was excluded
and tormented by them, he spent time and energy developing his other
skills which grew his normal brain into a brillant brain.

The drug abused brain would never have come to the understanding of
the very fundamental principle of God Himself that Einstein discovered
i.e. the all powerful God of light created matter from energy by
condensing energy.

energy=mass * light constant^2

ps Hawkins would not of made it into the world if these scientist had
their way.

End
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March of Dimes Exposé

Exposing the Hidden Link
(Reprinted with permission from "Lifelines, newspaper of the
Pennsylvania Pro-Life Federation")

For years the March of Dimes (MOD) has been boycotted by pro-life
groups for its involvement in the abortion industry. Unfortunately,
many well-meaning pro-life citizens continue to support MOD, not
knowing one of the group's methods of preventing what it calls "Birth
Defects" is to promote abortion.

MOD was one of the major forces behind the development and widespread
use of amniocentesis in the second trimester of pregnancy.
Amniocentesis is a test commonly used to determine if an unborn child
has a congenital abnormality, knowledge of which can facilitate the
decision to abort "defective" children.

Pat Robertson of CBN and the Christian Coalition asked those with this
philosophy, "Would we have been better off if there had never been a
Helen Keller or Beethoven or Einstein -- all of whom had "birth
defects?"

Henry Foster, who was rejected by the Senate as President Clinton's
nominee for Surgeon General, served on the March of Dimes' Medical
Service Advisory committee. While on the committee, Foster admitted
doing nearly 700 abortions following the results of amniocentesis,.
Foster also defended fetoscopic prenatal research as "clearly
therapeutic" since "it was done for the same reason that we do
amniocentesis, to decide whether or not the pregnancy should continue,
and to provide a therapeutic abortion."

Dr. David Nathan, Professor of Pediatrics at Harvard University, MOD
grantee, and National MOD adviser, explained that one particularly
elaborate international prenatal testing arrangement involving
scientists in London, New Haven, and Boston was done in order that
"knowledge go on, vital clinical testing go on, and when necessary,
abortions go on."

In a letter to Congress in 1978, MOD president Charles Massey wrote in
favor of legislation to fund this genetic screening. Massey notes,
"The financial cost of treating and institutionalizing our severely
affected survivors is staggering; we cannot begin to measure the
cost."

MOD has given several grants for developing tests that can detect
abnormalities in the first trimester. Prostaglandin abortionists Dr.
Maurice J. Mahoney of Yale received $35,000 for research on chorionic
villi sampling and for developing a prenatal diagnostic technique that
would permit the first-trimester abortion of affected pre-born
children. From 1989 to 1990, MOD gave $50,000 to Dr. Haig H. Kazazian
of Johns Hopkins University, a staunch advocate of eugenic abortion,
to perfect methods to detect, early in pregnancy, disorders such as
beta-thalassemia, hemophilia A, Duchenne muscular dystrophy, and
cystic fibrosis - none of which is treatable in the womb.

MOD has also funded fetal experimentation and fetal tissue use for
more than two decades. In the early 1970's, MOD gave $19,000 to Dr.
John F.S. Crocker of Dalhousie University in Halifax, Nova Scotia, to
study congenital kidney abnormalities. This study involved "60 pairs
of embryonic kidneys . . . obtained from human therapeutic abortions
after five to twelve weeks gestation."

In 1973-74, MOD gave $9,420 for appallingly grotesque fetal brain
metabolism studies in Helsinki, Finland on living, human babies
aborted by hysterotomy and still attached by the umbilical cord to the
mother. The babies were then decapitated and their heads were mounted
on perfusion equipment. Arthur A. Galloway, MOD Vice President for
Development, defended this research, saying it was "done legally and
ethically" under Finnish law; that "the investigators did not
participate in the decision to terminate pregnancy;" and "they were
concerned with the ethics of discarding such fetal issue without
seeking to find ways to improve the life and health of live born
premature infants."

In the 1970's, a MOD grant was awarded to Dr. A. de la Chapelle of the
University of Helsinki for research on maternal and fetal blood cells
to detect genetic conditions early in pregnancy. Some cell sources for
the experiment were obtained "by open-heart puncture of 10 week
fetuses that had been aborted for various reasons, not connected with
fetal diseases." (Healthy babies)

MOD published Strategies in Genetic Counseling: Reproductive Genetics
and New Age Technologies in 1990. The book states the March of Dimes'
viewpoint that, "There is no substitution for a constitutional right
to abortion which protects our fundamental rights." Fortunately,
pro-life leaders say, many Americans still recognize the fact that
pre-born children, perfect and imperfect, are among those with
fundamental rights to be protected.

Thankfully, there is a pro-life alternative for those wishing to
support prenatal research. Those wishing to support
life-supporting-birth defect prevention research may send donations to
the Michael Fund, a pro-life genetic research foundation seeking to
protect both unborn children with defects and children and adults with
defects.

Because Down Syndrome babies are often among those innocent babies
killed by abortion, the Michael Fund places special emphasis on Down
Syndrome research. Columnist Rich Hinshaw says, "It is one of the
triumphs of modern society that the life of the average person with
Down Syndrome has become strikingly normal - except that, unlike
normal people, people with Down Syndrome have been targeted for
elimination." For an up-to-date packet about the organization and
documentation of the pro-abortion aspects of MOD please call
412-823-6380 or write:

The Michael Fund
500 A Garden City Drive
Pittsburgh, PA 15146

Haunted Places in Italy
by Landon Howell
Owner & Editor

COURTESY OF THE SHADOWLANDS

Calabria - In the mountains - Sometimes you will see a white light
glowing at night. Also people have reported seeing a very pale women
wearing a white dress walk around for about a minute then disappear at
about 12:00 at night.

Florence - Belvedere Fort- On the other side of the Arno River lies a
plot developed only after the onset of the Industrial Revolution.
Witches were burned there at the stake; numerous incarcerations,
exiles, murders--during the night, the labyrinthine streets vibrate
with preternatural energy. Footsteps in the dark on an abandoned
cobbled street. Voices in empty alleyways; churchyards wherein one can
see the faint images of victims denied succor. The Belvedere Fort
itself is a brick edifice that had once divided the outlying country
from the inner city in the Middle Ages. Ghosts, shadows, wraiths walk
beside the wall, vanishing beneath the street lamps before reappearing
anew in the shadows. Children's laughter and singing.

Florence - Pensione Burchianti - small, translucent, pinkish male
ghost has been seen in the frescoed room (the one in which Mussolini
once stayed), as well as the feeling of icy cold breath on people's
faces, the feeling of someone sitting on the bed when there's no one
there, and the feeling of being watched when there's no one there.
People have also reported seeing a child ghost wandering throughout
the halls, a maid ghost that will clean rooms at night, and an old
knitting woman sitting in a rocking chair. The owner of the pensione
will not stay there at night because of the hauntings.

Northern Italy - Lucedio Monestary - This place is haunted by monks
and people who were sacrificed. There were footsteps heard,
apparitions were seen, sounds were heard.

Pensione - Burchianti -small, translucent, pinkish male ghost has been
seen in the frescoed room (the one in which Mussolini once stayed), as
well as the feeling of icy cold breath on people's faces, the feeling
of someone sitting on the bed when there's no one there, and the
feeling of being watched when there's no one there. People have also
reported seeing a child ghost wandering throughout the halls, a maid
ghost that will clean rooms at night, and an old knitting woman
sitting in a rocking chair. The owner of the pensione will not stay
there at night because of the hauntings.

Pompeii - Ancient Roman city where a volcano erupted, burying the city
killing 2,000 people in ancient times. Screams, shadows, and sulfur
have been smelled and seen here.

Rome - The Coliseum - It had been reported at night, noises of swords
clashing, horses snorting and the sounds of chariots running at the
coliseum. One time as a woman was leaving at night, she felt her hair
being grabbed and pulled back into the coliseum.

Rome - Area around the Forum - There are a lot of old ancient Roman
housing areas surrounding the Forum in Rome. Mostly at night,
especially when there aren't too many visitors or tourists, you can
look down over the barriers into the arches and catch glimpses of
shadowy figures walking around or gesturing. These figures are mostly
just memories of the past or lasting imprints, not anybody with
"unfinished business". These "ghosts" are hard to find because most of
Rome is lit up at night, but if you are lucky enough, you can find a
rare unlit section of ruins, and watch the figures.

Sicily - Palermo Catacombs - the corpses hanging on the walls
sometimes faintly move. When you walk by them, they will be in one
position, and when you pass by them again. They will be moved. In one
of the rooms, you can here, whistling, talking and people talking
amongst themselves. You get a creepy feeling when you walk in the main
door.

Venice - If you are not careful while walking in small groups after
dark, it is possible to get trapped in a time loop. There are also
many places where you can see the ghosts of people lurking in the
shadows, although they will usually disappear when they realize that
they have been seen.

Venice - Island of No Return - Reports of voices, footsteps, sounds,
and an overall sense of evil permeates the island. Locals of the area
still will not journey there at night.

Venice - Poveglia - An island not open to tourists. Was originally a
self-governing island hundreds of years ago before being taken over by
Italy. When the black plague swept over the country, Poveglia was
where the dead bodies and even those who were still alive were dumped.
They were put into "plague pits" where hundreds or even thousands of
bodies and still-living victims of the disease were thrown in and
either buried, burned or just left in the open to rot. Centuries
later, a hospital was built by a doctor who tortured patients and who
tried experimental therapies of his own invention on mental patients.
The hospital, his office and the crematorium, still stands. The island
is used for farming only and no tourists are permitted on the island
at any time. Psychics have received special permission to visit and
even they were scared out of their minds.
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Where demons came from:
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GENESIS 6:1-6 When men began to increase in number on the earth and
daughters were born to them, the sons of God saw that the daughters of
men were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose. Then the
LORD said, "My Spirit will not contend with man forever, for he is
mortal; his days will be a hundred and twenty years." The Nephilim
were on the earth in those days -and also afterward-when the sons of
God went to the daughters of men and had children by them. They were
the heroes of old, men of renown. The LORD saw how great man's
wickedness on the earth had become, and that every inclination of the
thoughts of his heart was only evil all the time. The LORD was grieved
that he had made man on the earth, and his heart was filled with pain.

Humm!!
Satan and his angels on earth now had a hold on mankind because of
this evil and started to have children with the daughters of men
creating these wicked men of renown. We know that only Noah and his
family were saved out of the floods so the Nephilim(the cross between
angels and mankind) must of all been wiped out. I put it to you that
these Nephilim are what we call the "Neanderthals" of today for these
reasons and they are:
1) That both man and nephilim co-existed at the same time but man now
exist alone, God created man, man didn't evolve from this or any other
missing link.
2) The neanderthals had a bigger brain cavity in their skulls than man
but scientist have concluded that they must of been less intelligent
because they were wiped out and man was not, but this was only due to
God perserving mankind through Noah and his family.
3) The neanderthals bone density is greater than man's and some
scientists have concluded that they were the far stronger of the two
which would make them these hero's of old, men of renown(due to
strength as well as intelligence?). Other bible translations call them
giants and warriors of renown.

Legends are still with us about people such as Hercules who had a
god(dark angel?) called Zeus as a father and was born of a earthly
mother. Zeus the king of the gods and the supreme ruler of men has a
brother called Hades who rules the underworld where all men's spirits
went after they died. Satan is the king of the dark angels and the
ruler of men because of man's sinful nature and Hades is Satan's
kingdom which makes you wonder if Zeus is just another name for Satan.


2 PETER 2:4 For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but
sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for
judgment;

JUDE 1:6-7 And the angels who did not keep their positions of
authority but abandoned their own home-these he has kept in darkness,
bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day. In a
similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave
themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an
example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.

Humm!!
The whole earth was polluted with wickedness so God threw the dark
angels that created these nephlims into hell/Hades and flooded the
earth killing every living thing except those saved by Noah's ark.
Hades is one of the fallen angels but it is also a place of
confinement for those that reject God, both man that has died and
these dark angels. Jesus has shown others what Hades is and they
described it as a growing entity in the shape of a body. Hades is
filling up with the dammed like a balloon filling up with air. A
direct opposite of the body of Christ filling up with the saved and
would explain how Satan got his kingdom as God didn't make it for him.
This evil place exist in this fallen angel "Hades".


1 PETER 5:8-9 Be self-controlled and alert. Your enemy the devil
prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour.
Resist him, standing firm in the faith, because you know that your
brothers throughout the world are undergoing the same kind of
sufferings.

Humm!!
All the fallen angels that created these Nephlim were confined to
Hades by God. The other fallen angels including Satan are still free
till Judgement day.


JOB 1:6-12

One day the angels came to present themselves before the LORD, and
Satan also came with them. The LORD said to Satan, "Where have you
come from?" Satan answered the LORD, "From roaming through the earth
and going back and forth in it." Then the LORD said to Satan, "Have
you considered my servant Job? There is no one on earth like him; he
is blameless and upright, a man who fears God and shuns evil." "Does
Job fear God for nothing?" Satan replied. "Have you not put a hedge
around him and his household and everything he has? You have blessed
the work of his hands, so that his flocks and herds are spread
throughout the land. But stretch out your hand and strike everything
he has, and he will surely curse you to your face." The LORD said to
Satan, "Very well, then, everything he has is in your hands, but on
the man himself do not lay a finger."

One day the angels came to present themselves before the LORD, and
Satan also came with them. The LORD said to Satan, "Where have you
come from?" Satan answered the LORD, "From roaming through the earth
and going back and forth in it." Then the LORD said to Satan, "Have
you considered my servant Job? There is no one on earth like him; he
is blameless and upright, a man who fears God and shuns evil." "Does
Job fear God for nothing?" Satan replied. "Have you not put a hedge
around him and his household and everything he has? You have blessed
the work of his hands, so that his flocks and herds are spread
throughout the land. But stretch out your hand and strike everything
he has, and he will surely curse you to your face." The LORD said to
Satan, "Very well, then, everything he has is in your hands, but on
the man himself do not lay a finger."

Humm!!
Even though Satan is free for now he is limited to the amount evil he
can do by God, especially to those that worship God.

Psalm 78:
49-50
He cast upon them the fierceness of his anger, wrath, and
indignation, and trouble, by sending evil angels among them. He made a
way to his anger; he spared not their soul from death, but gave their
life over to the pestilence; The King James Version, (Cambridge:
Cambridge) 1769.

Humm!!
Even evil angels serve a purpose for now in God's plan, in that, if
man chooses the path of evil and turns his back on God, God may lift
his protection off and allow the evil angels to bring sickness, misery
and death to him. Make no mistake, if God did not protect mankind from
the evil angels then they would happily destroy all mankind as soon as
possible. Notice in the above verse that God had to first make a way
for his anger i.e had to allow the evil angels into action.
MATTHEW 8:16 When evening came, many who were demon-possessed were
brought to him, and he drove out the spirits with a word and healed
all the sick.

LUKE 8:30-31 Jesus asked him, "What is your name?" "Legion," he
replied, because many demons had gone into him. And they begged him
repeatedly not to order them to go into the Abyss.

Humm!!
The demons can only be the evil spirits left over from the union of
the evil angels with women. Although the fallen angel were confined to
Hell by God these evil spirits were not. These spirits crave to
possess a body once again and when they do they can display superhuman
strength e.g. by snapping chains(Mark5:4) or the ability to know
things that human don't know unless informed by these demons
(Acts16:16).

One verse from Esdras(one of the books not included into the bible for
one reason or another) and two translations of Nostradamus's
predictions are very interesting concerning these evil spirits and
their desire for possessing bodies once again which I feel are
actually dealing with human clones in our present time and these
predictions are as follows:


2 ESDRAS 5:8 There shall be chaos also in many places, fire shall
often break out, the wild animals shall roam beyond their haunts, and
menstruous women shall bring forth monsters. (From the Harpes Collins
study bible with the apocryphal/deuterocanonical books included)

Century 1-quatrain91

The gods will arrive in the 'guise of humans', And they will be the
cause of great conflict. Before, the sky was seen to be free of arms.
The greatest damage will be caused in the west. (From 'Nostradamus The
Prophecies' by J.Anderson Black)

Century 2-quatrain45
Too much the heavens weep for the Androgyny procreation, Near the
heavens human blood shed: Because of death too late a great people
re-created, Late and soon comes the awaited help. (From 'Nostradamus
The Complete Prophecies' by John Hogue)

Humm!!
Look at what Esdra is predicting for the end times and that is
'menstruous women(fertile women) shall bring forth monsters' and
Nostradamus is predicting, in his first one he says that 'the gods
will arrive in the guise of humans' and what is a human clone but a
soulless human body ready for the gods(the evil spirits) to occupy. If
you lost a part of your body would you expect it to start moving about
on its own accord? Of course not, so what is a human clone but a lump
of re-created flesh in the form of somebody's human body and if it
moves, then animated by evil spirits. The second quatrain says, "The
Androgyny procreation and a great people 're-created'" and the Bible
mentions these great people that were the children of the fallen
angels and women before they were all wiped out by the floods in
Noah's time.

To ask the question, "How long before human clones will be produced?"
is to be a little naive since the real questions that should be asked
is, "How old are they now and how many of them have been created?".
Now man, under the influence of these evil spirits, are producing
clone bodies for these evil spirits(demons) to occupy. These demons
which are the offspring of the fallen angels may not of had bodies
completely to themselves since before the flood but they have now or
will have. The presence of these demons has been seen throughout
mankind's history especially by those that willing allow them into
their bodies.

A few prime examples would be in voodoo where the person says that a
spirit takes over there bodies, mediums that talk to the dead(demons
in reality), demon possessed people and people with familiar spirits.
Some not so obvious examples are when people are put under hypnosis
and can be made to act out of character and while under hypnosis have
so called memories of past lives while the demon is in control of that
person's body also another not so obvious example is of people being
abducted by aliens(most have their souls tormented by demons for a
while).

Note that demons have been around for at least 3000 years(before the
great flood of Noah's day) and have inhabited countless human lives
after the floods because they no longer have bodies of their own. This
explains all these past lives people believe to be their own which in
reality is the life history of these demons that inhabit them.

The intelligence level of these demon clones far outstrips mans and if
your final destination is Hell then maybe you won't have too much to
worry about for awhile. The last part of the second quatrain says that
late and soon comes the awaited help which is probably God(Jesus) who
takes out his people during the tribulation then at the predetermined
end of the tribulation puts an end to the madness.