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"Sound of Trumpet" |
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12 Oct 2006 07:24:42 PM |
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Unborn Jesus Our Hope |
http://pewlady.blogspot.com/2006/09/unborn-jesus-our-hope.html
Tuesday, September 19, 2006
"Unborn Jesus Our Hope"
Once upon a time I was arrested and jailed -- like so many others --
for attempting to rescue babies from the horror of "termination." Forty
eight hours later I was charged with trespassing and let go by a
sympathetic judge. Since then I reluctantly admit that, to my shame,
the cost of fighting the pro-life fight was a wearisome one. The
exhilaration of that rescue attempt slowly but inexorably began to be
replaced by a feeling of helplessness. Abortion figures grew and grew.
Pro-life politicians began the trip of the dinosaur...as did pro-life
Catholics! The pro-life movement, to my mind, became nothing more nor
less than a futile exercise in picketing, "debates," and baby showers.
Don't get me wrong...I've remained active in the battle (albeit far
less than many!) but the spark was difficult to maintain.
I recently read this amazing paragraph:
By coming into the world as a little unborn baby, and living that
existence for nine months, Jesus sanctified the unborn state and the
relationship between the unborn child and his parents, particularly the
relationship with his mother. Day after day, month by month Jesus was
nothing but an insignificant unborn baby. He chose this restricted
unborn life to show the depths of God's love for us. Perhaps the world
can not unerstand nor appreciate it, but we Christians must!
This is but one gem from an amazing book called "Unborn Jesus Our
Hope." Aptly titled, the volume offers a "jump start" for those of us
who, humanly enough, flag in the fight for the unborn in the face of
the Culture of Death surrounding us. "Unborn Jesus Our Hope" offers
just that...hope. Within its pages we hear -- actually hear! -- the
words of Jesus in Mary's womb throughout the Bible: the very Word of
God. From God, who willed Himself into the helplessness of a babe in
the womb we receive encouragement, life, and -- despite a world of
contradiction surrounding us -- hope. Hope from the Babe in Utero.
It's one of those books you can read from cover to cover -- or open at
random -- and discover a, perhaps once known but somehow forgotten
reason for hope. And for joy! And, among many other gifts, a way to
claim real hope from a simple Ave Maria.
While written from a Catholic perspective, the book is richly rewarding
to all Christian readers. I thank writer George A. Peate for writing
this book and his wife, Michele, for sending it to me. And I urge you
to, if not purchase it (it's cheap!) to at least visit the sponsor
website here and learn more about it.
At Christmas, we sing in praise of "The Newborn King." At Easter, we
proclaim "Our Risen Savior." And during Lent, we offer supplications
"In the Name of Christ Crucified." Right now, and always, I ask Our
Father to bless you, in the Name of the Unborn Christ Child. Thank you!
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| User: "LC" |
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12 Oct 2006 07:32:56 PM |
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"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@myway.com> wrote in message
news:1160699082.383345.238690@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Wha? No more "Volcanomail"?
Looks like Strumpet got TOS'd from yet another ISP:
From: "Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@myway.com>
Newsgroups:
alt.atheism,alt.abortion,alt.bible,alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic,alt.society.liberalism
Subject: Unborn Jesus Our Hope
Date: 12 Oct 2006 17:24:42 -0700
Message-ID: <1160699082.383345.238690@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 200.193.48.52
LC~ Spam, spam, spam, and spam...
"Blessed is the man who, having nothing to stay, abstains from giving us
worthy evidence of the fact."~ George Elliot
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| User: "Divine Holiness Church 4 Dogs" |
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13 Oct 2006 02:27:34 AM |
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I don't like abortion but I believe a baby is better being terminated
before birth than growing up in orphanages and foster homes. They have
been horribly treated in these places (especially in Christian run
orphanages), and then they're thrown out into the street to be homeless.
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| User: "Josef Balluch" |
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13 Oct 2006 12:37:26 PM |
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In a message sent 'round the world, Sound of Trumpet poured fuel on the
fire with the following:
http://pewlady.blogspot.com/2006/09/unborn-jesus-our-hope.html
....
Don't get me wrong...I've remained active in the battle (albeit far
less than many!) but the spark was difficult to maintain.
....
Translation: Here is a matter that is really, really, REALLY important,
but not important enough for me to get out of my comfortable chair.
Hypocrisy, they name is christianity.
Regards,
Josef
What you do speaks so loud that I cannot hear what you say.
-- Ralph Waldo Emerson
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| User: "Attila" |
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13 Oct 2006 06:08:50 AM |
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On 12 Oct 2006 17:24:42 -0700, "Sound of Trumpet"
<soundoftrumpet@myway.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<1160699082.383345.238690@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> wrote:
"Unborn Jesus Our Hope"
No one has ever proven such a person ever existed.
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Pro-Choice is Pro-Freedom
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| User: "Malcolm" |
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14 Oct 2006 04:40:09 AM |
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"Attila" <<prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
On 12 Oct 2006 17:24:42 -0700, "Sound of Trumpet"
<soundoftrumpet@myway.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<1160699082.383345.238690@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> wrote:
"Unborn Jesus Our Hope"
No one has ever proven such a person ever existed.
Jesus Myther garbage.
As the pro-abortionists get more extreme, their grasp on reality begins to
slip.
--
www.personal.leeds.ac.uk/~bgy1mm
freeware games to download.
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| User: "Attila" |
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14 Oct 2006 10:12:13 AM |
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On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 10:40:09 +0100, "Malcolm"
<regniztar@btinternet.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<tfWdnT8B6L87cK3YnZ2dnUVZ8qGdnZ2d@bt.com> wrote:
"Attila" <<prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
On 12 Oct 2006 17:24:42 -0700, "Sound of Trumpet"
<soundoftrumpet@myway.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<1160699082.383345.238690@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> wrote:
"Unborn Jesus Our Hope"
No one has ever proven such a person ever existed.
Jesus Myther garbage.
As the pro-abortionists get more extreme, their grasp on reality begins to
slip.
What pro-abortionists?
--
Pro-Choice is Pro-Freedom
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Unborn Jesus Our Hope |
14 Oct 2006 10:14:31 AM |
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In article <phv1j2ta20h2c9nk07ffku4uctnfotbuer@4ax.com>, Attila
<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 10:40:09 +0100, "Malcolm"
<regniztar@btinternet.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<tfWdnT8B6L87cK3YnZ2dnUVZ8qGdnZ2d@bt.com> wrote:
"Attila" <<prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
On 12 Oct 2006 17:24:42 -0700, "Sound of Trumpet"
<soundoftrumpet@myway.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<1160699082.383345.238690@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> wrote:
"Unborn Jesus Our Hope"
No one has ever proven such a person ever existed.
Jesus Myther garbage.
As the pro-abortionists get more extreme, their grasp on reality begins to
slip.
What pro-abortionists?
And now Jesus is reality?
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| User: "Malcolm" |
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15 Oct 2006 02:25:26 AM |
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"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:141020060814315834%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <phv1j2ta20h2c9nk07ffku4uctnfotbuer@4ax.com>, Attila
<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 10:40:09 +0100, "Malcolm"
<regniztar@btinternet.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<tfWdnT8B6L87cK3YnZ2dnUVZ8qGdnZ2d@bt.com> wrote:
"Attila" <<prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
On 12 Oct 2006 17:24:42 -0700, "Sound of Trumpet"
<soundoftrumpet@myway.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<1160699082.383345.238690@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> wrote:
"Unborn Jesus Our Hope"
No one has ever proven such a person ever existed.
Jesus Myther garbage.
As the pro-abortionists get more extreme, their grasp on reality begins
to
slip.
What pro-abortionists?
If an abortion takes place and someone approves of the act, or supports the
legislation under which the action takes place, then that person is
pro-abortion.
Obviously, few people if any advocate abortion for absolutely every
pregnancy, just as few if any pro-death penalty people advocate execution
for every crime,
And now Jesus is reality?
There most certainly was such a person, so Jesus is at least as much a
reality as, say Socrates or Julius Caesar.
Of course you can have a sensible argument over whether He actually rose
from the dead.
--
www.personal.leeds.ac.uk/~bgy1mm
freeware games to download.
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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15 Oct 2006 09:02:24 AM |
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In article <WsqdnfyN380deqzYnZ2dnUVZ8qWdnZ2d@bt.com>,
"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote:
If an abortion takes place and someone approves of the act, or supports the
legislation under which the action takes place, then that person is
pro-abortion.
you are mistaken. allowing something to happen is not approval.
allowing someone to make a personal medical decision is not
pro-abortion, although i concede that those who oppose abortion are
so empty of any justification for their opposition that they often
attempt semantic arguments such as the pro-abortion label.
i hope this clears things up for you.
"You have confirmed my suspicion that those who argue the rights of
the fetus view the woman as a container." Muriel Nelson
<1992Jun22.123409.5...@hemlock‚.cray.com>
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| User: "Malcolm" |
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15 Oct 2006 05:44:11 PM |
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"james g. keegan jr." <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote in message news
In article <WsqdnfyN380deqzYnZ2dnUVZ8qWdnZ2d@bt.com>,
"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote:
If an abortion takes place and someone approves of the act, or supports
the
legislation under which the action takes place, then that person is
pro-abortion.
you are mistaken. allowing something to happen is not approval.
allowing someone to make a personal medical decision is not
pro-abortion, although i concede that those who oppose abortion are
so empty of any justification for their opposition that they often
attempt semantic arguments such as the pro-abortion label.
i hope this clears things up for you.
Very patronising last line.
You realise that the pro-abortionist's denial that they are pro-abortion is
a pure word game, and an admission that abortion is evil.
Personally I am anti-gun. But I don't think that people who disagree with me
on this are necessarily evil. They don't mess about saying "I am not
pro-gun, I am pro-choice on whether to carry a gun or not".
In Britain, the pro-abortion group was called "The National Abortion
Campaign". This was before the "pro-choice" nonsense was invented. They
advocated abortion when the woman desired to terminate the pregnancy, and
gave lots of examples where, as they saw it, abortion would be a socially
desireable and personally thing.
It is possible to oppose something but believe it should be legal. That
isn't the position taken by more than a handful of pro-abortionists,
however. Most pro-abortionists give reasons why access to abortion gives a
woman control over her own body, or reduces the number of unwanted children,
etc etc etc.
--
www.personal.leeds.ac.uk/~bgy1mm
freeware games to download.
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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15 Oct 2006 06:30:32 PM |
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In article <kaudnX5OO-giJK_YRVnysA@bt.com>,
"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote:
"james g. keegan jr." <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote in message news
In article <WsqdnfyN380deqzYnZ2dnUVZ8qWdnZ2d@bt.com>,
"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote:
If an abortion takes place and someone approves of the act, or supports
the
legislation under which the action takes place, then that person is
pro-abortion.
you are mistaken. allowing something to happen is not approval.
allowing someone to make a personal medical decision is not
pro-abortion, although i concede that those who oppose abortion are
so empty of any justification for their opposition that they often
attempt semantic arguments such as the pro-abortion label.
i hope this clears things up for you.
Very patronising last line.
you've been labeled paranoid before, i take it?
You realise that the pro-abortionist's denial that they are pro-abortion is
a pure word game, and an admission that abortion is evil.
only a crazed neocon would believe that.
In Britain, the pro-abortion group was called "The National Abortion
Campaign". This was before the "pro-choice" nonsense was invented. They
advocated abortion when the woman desired to terminate the pregnancy, and
gave lots of examples where, as they saw it, abortion would be a socially
desireable and personally thing.
It is possible to oppose something but believe it should be legal. That
isn't the position taken by more than a handful of pro-abortionists,
however. Most pro-abortionists give reasons why access to abortion gives a
woman control over her own body, or reduces the number of unwanted children,
etc etc etc.
glad to see you learned something from my comments.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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15 Oct 2006 06:03:21 PM |
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Malcolm <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote:
"james g. keegan jr." <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote in message news
In article <WsqdnfyN380deqzYnZ2dnUVZ8qWdnZ2d@bt.com>,
"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote:
If an abortion takes place and someone approves of the act, or supports
the
legislation under which the action takes place, then that person is
pro-abortion.
you are mistaken. allowing something to happen is not approval.
allowing someone to make a personal medical decision is not
pro-abortion, although i concede that those who oppose abortion are
so empty of any justification for their opposition that they often
attempt semantic arguments such as the pro-abortion label.
i hope this clears things up for you.
Very patronising last line.
You realise that the pro-abortionist's
As opposed to pro-liar terrorists?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Attila" |
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16 Oct 2006 05:39:47 AM |
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On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:44:11 +0100, "Malcolm"
<regniztar@btinternet.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<kaudnX5OO-giJK_YRVnysA@bt.com> wrote:
"james g. keegan jr." <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote in message news
In article <WsqdnfyN380deqzYnZ2dnUVZ8qWdnZ2d@bt.com>,
"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote:
If an abortion takes place and someone approves of the act, or supports
the
legislation under which the action takes place, then that person is
pro-abortion.
you are mistaken. allowing something to happen is not approval.
allowing someone to make a personal medical decision is not
pro-abortion, although i concede that those who oppose abortion are
so empty of any justification for their opposition that they often
attempt semantic arguments such as the pro-abortion label.
i hope this clears things up for you.
Very patronising last line.
You realise that the pro-abortionist's denial that they are pro-abortion is
a pure word game, and an admission that abortion is evil.
Nonsense. There is nothing 'evil' about a legal medical procedure.
Personally I am anti-gun. But I don't think that people who disagree with me
on this are necessarily evil. They don't mess about saying "I am not
pro-gun, I am pro-choice on whether to carry a gun or not".
In Britain, the pro-abortion group was called "The National Abortion
Campaign".
That was a campaign to legalize one of the two choices for a pregnant
woman was it not?
This was before the "pro-choice" nonsense was invented.
There is no choice without two legal options.
They
advocated abortion when the woman desired to terminate the pregnancy, and
gave lots of examples where, as they saw it, abortion would be a socially
desireable and personally thing.
That was a campaign to legalize the option of abortion. It naturally
was the focus of the discussions.
It is possible to oppose something but believe it should be legal.
As well as supporting it's legality without advocating it.
That
isn't the position taken by more than a handful of pro-abortionists,
however.
Again, what pro-abortionists? I have seen no one advocate abortion
over birth here.
Most pro-abortionists give reasons why access to abortion gives a
woman control over her own body, or reduces the number of unwanted children,
etc etc etc.
No reason or justification is required for any decision made under the
freedom of choice.
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Pro-Choice is Pro-Freedom
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| User: "Divine Holiness Church 4 Dogs" |
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16 Oct 2006 06:32:48 AM |
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Pro-Choice is Pro-Freedom
I'ts not about pro-choice. It's about anti-forced pregnancy.
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| User: "George Peatty" |
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16 Oct 2006 07:33:32 AM |
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In article <1160998368.834100.309750@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Divine
Holiness Church 4 Dogs says...
Pro-Choice is Pro-Freedom
I'ts not about pro-choice. It's about anti-forced pregnancy.
It's about murder.
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| User: "--sexkitten--" |
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16 Oct 2006 08:03:12 AM |
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George Peatty wrote:
In article <1160998368.834100.309750@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Divine
Holiness Church 4 Dogs says...
Pro-Choice is Pro-Freedom
I'ts not about pro-choice. It's about anti-forced pregnancy.
It's about murder.
Well yeah, people have been murdered by "pro-life" forces. Your point?
--
--sexkitten--
Other than telling us how to live, think, marry, pray, vote, invest,
educate our children and, now, die, I think the Republicans have done a
fine job of getting government out of our personal lives.
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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16 Oct 2006 08:06:27 AM |
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In article <egvu6s019ba@drn.newsguy.com>,
George Peatty <pttyg47-1230@copper.net> wrote:
[...]
It's about murder.
you didn't know you posted to abortion newsgroups, did you?
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| User: "Attila" |
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17 Oct 2006 05:42:20 AM |
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On 16 Oct 2006 05:33:32 -0700, George Peatty <pttyg47-1230@copper.net>
in alt.abortion with message-id <egvu6s019ba@drn.newsguy.com> wrote:
In article <1160998368.834100.309750@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Divine
Holiness Church 4 Dogs says...
Pro-Choice is Pro-Freedom
I'ts not about pro-choice. It's about anti-forced pregnancy.
It's about murder.
Not if you are speaking English and talking about anywhere abortion is
legal. Murder requires an illegal component. Without this illegal
component an act can no more be murder than a hamburger can be a
hamburger without meat or a cow be a cow without four legs and bovine
DNA.
It is impossible for a legal act to be illegal - it simply cannot
happen, To talk as if it can is to dishonestly foster a lie and
deception, as well as clearly indicating the audience is too dumb to
know what is being said.
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Pro-Choice is Pro-Freedom
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| User: "Paul Anderson" |
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15 Oct 2006 07:04:06 PM |
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On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:44:11 +0100, "Malcolm"
<regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote:
"james g. keegan jr." <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote ....
you are mistaken. allowing something to happen is not approval.
allowing someone....
You realise that the pro-abortionist's denial that they are pro-abortion is
a pure word game, and an admission that abortion is evil....
No, I am not Pro-Catholic. I think that being a Catholic is stupid,
that many Catholics are evil people hiding behind a veil of religion.
But I have seen no justification for banning Catholism and thus I am
not Anti-Catholic. Since I am neither Pro- nor Anti- it is obvious
that I am for allowing the person to choose for themselves.
Likewise, abortion is yucky, it is a waste of human resources.
Starting/aborting a pregnancy is an unnecessary hormornal kick to the
system. I am absolutely NOT pro-abortion. I would cheerfully
support a total ban on abortion, given justification. However, I have
seen no justification for banning abortion and thus I am not
Anti-Abortion. Since I am neither Pro- nor Anti- it is obvious that I
am for allowing the person to choose for themselves.
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| User: "Giant Waffle" |
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15 Oct 2006 08:37:04 PM |
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On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 00:04:06 GMT, while bungee jumping,
elcoyote@netzero.net (Paul Anderson) shouted thusly:
On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:44:11 +0100, "Malcolm"
<regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote:
"james g. keegan jr." <jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote ....
you are mistaken. allowing something to happen is not approval.
allowing someone....
You realise that the pro-abortionist's denial that they are pro-abortion is
a pure word game, and an admission that abortion is evil....
No, I am not Pro-Catholic. I think that being a Catholic is stupid,
You don't have too many Catholic friends, do you. :)
Likewise, abortion is yucky
That's quite an argument!
Just teasin. :)
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Giant Waffle
<{{{><
My heart rejoices in the Lord; My horn is exalted in the Lord.
I smile at my enemies, because I rejoice in Your salvation.
- 1 Samuel 2:1
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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15 Oct 2006 10:52:17 AM |
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In article <WsqdnfyN380deqzYnZ2dnUVZ8qWdnZ2d@bt.com>, Malcolm
<regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:141020060814315834%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <phv1j2ta20h2c9nk07ffku4uctnfotbuer@4ax.com>, Attila
<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 10:40:09 +0100, "Malcolm"
<regniztar@btinternet.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<tfWdnT8B6L87cK3YnZ2dnUVZ8qGdnZ2d@bt.com> wrote:
"Attila" <<prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
On 12 Oct 2006 17:24:42 -0700, "Sound of Trumpet"
<soundoftrumpet@myway.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<1160699082.383345.238690@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> wrote:
"Unborn Jesus Our Hope"
No one has ever proven such a person ever existed.
Jesus Myther garbage.
As the pro-abortionists get more extreme, their grasp on reality begins
to
slip.
What pro-abortionists?
If an abortion takes place and someone approves of the act, or supports the
legislation under which the action takes place, then that person is
pro-abortion.
That statement is "pro-idiot." So if I feel people should not be
prosecuted for flag burning I am "pro-flag burning." If I feel people
should no be prosecuted for voting Republican, I am "pro-Republican."
If I believe you should not be prosecuted foe being religious, I am
"pro-religion."
Obviously, few people if any advocate abortion for absolutely every
pregnancy, just as few if any pro-death penalty people advocate execution
for every crime,
That statement was a waste of time.
And now Jesus is reality?
There most certainly was such a person, so Jesus is at least as much a
reality as, say Socrates or Julius Caesar.
How do you know Jesus existed?
Of course you can have a sensible argument over whether He actually rose
from the dead.
Not really. That would be like having a sensible argument over whether
he was a Martian.
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15 Oct 2006 06:49:39 AM |
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On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 08:25:26 +0100, "Malcolm"
<regniztar@btinternet.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<WsqdnfyN380deqzYnZ2dnUVZ8qWdnZ2d@bt.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:141020060814315834%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <phv1j2ta20h2c9nk07ffku4uctnfotbuer@4ax.com>, Attila
<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 10:40:09 +0100, "Malcolm"
<regniztar@btinternet.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<tfWdnT8B6L87cK3YnZ2dnUVZ8qGdnZ2d@bt.com> wrote:
"Attila" <<prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
On 12 Oct 2006 17:24:42 -0700, "Sound of Trumpet"
<soundoftrumpet@myway.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<1160699082.383345.238690@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> wrote:
"Unborn Jesus Our Hope"
No one has ever proven such a person ever existed.
Jesus Myther garbage.
As the pro-abortionists get more extreme, their grasp on reality begins
to
slip.
What pro-abortionists?
If an abortion takes place and someone approves of the act, or supports the
legislation under which the action takes place, then that person is
pro-abortion.
Wrong.
Obviously, few people if any advocate abortion for absolutely every
pregnancy,
Such people would in fact be pro-abortion.
just as few if any pro-death penalty people advocate execution
for every crime,
Many advocate the death penalty for those crimes in which it applies
as opposed to some 'life sentence'.
And now Jesus is reality?
There most certainly was such a person,
Prove it.
so Jesus is at least as much a
reality as, say Socrates or Julius Caesar.
Not proven.
Of course you can have a sensible argument over whether He actually rose
from the dead.
Prove he ever existed first.
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Pro-Choice is Pro-Freedom
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| User: "Steve O" |
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13 Oct 2006 12:11:32 PM |
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"Attila" <<prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
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On 12 Oct 2006 17:24:42 -0700, "Sound of Trumpet"
<soundoftrumpet@myway.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<1160699082.383345.238690@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> wrote:
"Unborn Jesus Our Hope"
No one has ever proven such a person ever existed.
Certainly not this one, if it is unborn as claimed.
--
Steve O
a.a. #2240
"Faith doesn't move mountains - it levels buildings."
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| User: "2755 Dead" |
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13 Oct 2006 08:26:16 AM |
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On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 07:08:50 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now>
wrote:
On 12 Oct 2006 17:24:42 -0700, "Sound of Trumpet"
<soundoftrumpet@myway.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<1160699082.383345.238690@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> wrote:
"Unborn Jesus Our Hope"
No one has ever proven such a person ever existed.
"Unborn" So -will- exist.
Sort of a pre-person now. If Knickers and the World Net News is to be
believed, at risk of becoming pate on a cracker.
--
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12 Oct 2006 08:56:14 PM |
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Sound of Trumpet wrote:
I've remained active in the Culture of Death -- Christian I ty!
Abridged and fixed.
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12 Oct 2006 07:27:42 PM |
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Sound of Trumpet wrote:
http://pewlady.blogspot.com/2006/09/unborn-jesus-our-hope.html
Tuesday, September 19, 2006
"Unborn Jesus Our Hope"
Once upon a time I was arrested and jailed -- like so many others --
for attempting to rescue babies from the horror of "termination." Forty
eight hours later I was charged with trespassing and let go by a
sympathetic judge. Since then I reluctantly admit that, to my shame,
the cost of fighting the pro-life fight was a wearisome one.
snip yer bitchin'
If men could get pregnant, abortion would be a holy sacrement.
-Panama Floyd, Atl.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
EAC Martian Commander
Plonked by Kadaitcha Man, Sep 06
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain
Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
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15 Oct 2006 10:14:25 AM |
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Sound of Trumpet wrote:
http://pewlady.blogspot.com/2006/09/unborn-jesus-our-hope.html
Tuesday, September 19, 2006
"Unborn Jesus Our Hope"
[...]
I recently read this amazing paragraph:
By coming into the world as a little unborn baby, and living that
existence for nine months, Jesus sanctified the unborn state and the
relationship between the unborn child and his parents, particularly the
relationship with his mother. Day after day, month by month Jesus was
nothing but an insignificant unborn baby. He chose this restricted
unborn life to show the depths of God's love for us. Perhaps the world
can not unerstand nor appreciate it, but we Christians must!
Here's a fun little thought to meditate on - the fertilized ovum that
became you was alive in your mother's body going all the way back to
when *she* was a fetus in *her* mother's womb. Which means that the
ovum that became Jesus existed as a part of Mary's body even before
Mary was born.
Actual human biology has a way of confounding our conventional wisdom
about What We Are - that might be why creationists hate evolution so
much.
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