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Surgery to stunt disabled girl's growth raises ethical questions
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CHICAGO, Illinois (AP) -- In a case fraught with ethical questions, the
parents of a severely mentally and physically disabled child have
stunted her growth to keep their little "pillow angel" a manageable and
more portable size.
The uterus and breast tissue of the bedridden 9-year-old girl were
removed at a Seattle hospital, and she received large doses of hormones
to halt her growth. She is now 4-foot-5; her parents say she would
otherwise probably reach a normal 5-foot-6.
The case has captured attention nationwide and abroad via the Internet,
with some decrying the parents' actions as perverse and akin to
eugenics. Some ethicists question the parents' claim that the drastic
treatment will benefit their daughter and allow them to continue caring
for her at home. (Watch a bioethicist discuss Ashley's condition. Video
)
University of Pennsylvania ethicist Art Caplan said the case is
troubling and reflects "slippery slope" thinking among parents who
believe "the way to deal with my kid with permanent behavioral problems
is to put them into permanent childhood."
Right or wrong, the couple's decision highlights a dilemma thousands of
parents face in struggling to care for severely disabled children as
they grow up.
"This particular treatment, even if it's OK in this situation, and I
think it probably is, is not a widespread solution and ignores the
large social issues about caring for people with disabilities," Dr.
Joel Frader, a medical ethicist at Chicago's Children's Memorial
Hospital, said Thursday. "As a society, we do a pretty rotten job of
helping caregivers provide what's necessary for these patients."
The case involves a girl identified only as Ashley on a blog her
parents created after her doctors wrote about her treatment in
October's Archives of Pediatrics & Adolescent Medicine. The journal did
not disclose the parents' names or where they live; the couple do not
identify themselves on their blog, either.
Shortly after birth, Ashley had feeding problems and showed severe
developmental delays. Her doctors diagnosed static encephalopathy,
which means severe brain damage. They do not know what caused it.
Her condition has left her in an infant state, unable to sit up, roll
over, hold a toy or walk or talk. Her parents say she will never get
better. She is alert, startles easily, and smiles, but does not
maintain eye contact, according to her parents, who call the
brown-haired little girl their "pillow angel."
She goes to school for disabled children, but her parents care for her
at home and say they have been unable to find suitable outside help.
An editorial in the medical journal called "the Ashley treatment"
ill-advised and questioned whether it will even work. But her parents
say it has succeeded so far.
She had surgery in July 2004 and recently completed the hormone
treatment. She weighs about 65 pounds, and is about 13 inches shorter
and 50 pounds lighter than she would be as an adult, according to her
parents' blog.
"Ashley's smaller and lighter size makes it more possible to include
her in the typical family life and activities that provide her with
needed comfort, closeness, security and love: meal time, car trips,
touch, snuggles, etc.," her parents wrote.
Also, Ashley's parents say keeping her small will reduce the risk of
bedsores and other conditions that can afflict bedridden patients. In
addition, they say preventing her from going through puberty means she
won't experience the discomfort of periods or grow breasts that might
develop breast cancer, which runs in the family.
"Even though caring for Ashley involves hard and continual work, she is
a blessing and not a burden," her parents say. Still, they write,
"Unless you are living the experience ... you have no clue what it is
like to be the bedridden child or their caregivers."
Caplan questioned how preventing normal growth could benefit the
patient. Treatment that is not for a patient's direct benefit "only
seems wrong to me," the ethicist said.
Dr. Douglas Diekema, an ethicist at Children's Hospital and Regional
Medical Center in Seattle, where Ashley was treated, said he met with
the parents and became convinced they were motivated by love and the
girl's best interests.
Diekema said he was mainly concerned with making sure the little girl
would actually benefit and not suffer any harm from the treatment. She
did not, and is doing well, he said.
"The more her parents can be touching her and caring for her ... and
involving her in family activities, the better for her," he said. "The
parents' argument was, `If she's smaller and lighter, we will be able
to do that for a longer period of time."'
___________________________________________________________________________
Shall we also start lobotomising the elderly if they show any signs of
discomfort, put them on bags for the ease of toileting them and starve
them to acceptable lifting levels?
If this is what to expect from a generation that murders the unborn
without guilt then what will follow that?
And then came the 666 modified frontal lobe people whose only morality
is what a computer gives them through the frontal lobes. For their own
good they will feel no anger no ........
Extract of a divine revelation of hell.....................
(From Mary Baxter who was given a glimpse into the future.)
As I watched, I saw another man in another office become very angry at
the beast. He demanded to talk with him. He was yelling at the top of
his voice. The beast appeared and seemed very courteous as he said,
"Come, I can help you take care of all your problems."
The beast took the angry man into a large room and motioned for him to
lie down on a table. The room and the table reminded me of a hospital
emergency room. The man was given an anesthesia and wheeled beneath a
vast machine. The beast attached wires to the man's head and turned on
the machine. On the top of the machine were the words, "This mind
eraser belongs to the beast, 666."
When the man was removed from the table, his eyes had a vacant stare,
and his movements reminded one of a zombie in a movie. I saw a large
blank spot on the top of his head, and I knew his mind had been
surgically altered so he could be controlled by the beast.
The beast said, "Now, sir, don't you feel better? Didn't I say I could
take care of all your problems? I have given you a new mind. You will
have no worries or troubles now."
The man did not speak.
"You will obey my every command," said the beast as he picked up a
small object and attached it to the man's shirt. He spoke again to the
man, and he answered without moving his lips. He moved like a living
dead man. "You will work and not get angry or frustrated, nor will you
cry or be sad. You will work for me until you die. I have many like you
that I control. Some lie, some kill, some steal, some make war, some
have children, some run machinery, and some do other things. Yes, I
control everything." An evil laugh came from him.
The man was handed papers to sign. He gladly gave all his belongings to
the beast.
In my vision I saw the man leave the office of the beast, get in a car
and drive home. When he approached his wife, she tried to kiss him, but
he made no attempt to respond. He had no feeling for his wife or anyone
else. The beast had made him incapable of feeling any emotion.
The wife became very angry and screamed at her husband, but to no
avail. At last she said, "OK, I'll call the beast. He will know what to
do." After a quick phone call, she left the house and drove to the same
building her husband had just left.
The beast welcomed her in and said, "Tell me all your troubles. I am
sure I can help you."
A very handsome man took her by the arm and led her to the same table
her husband had been on earlier. After the same operation, she also
became a depersonalized slave of the beast.
I heard the beast ask her, "How do you feel?" She did not answer until
after he had attached a small object to her blouse. Then she
acknowledged that he was master and lord and began to worship him.
End times:
http://mart1963.tripod.com/index.htm
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"martus" <marttila69@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Surgery to stunt disabled girl's growth raises ethical questions
POSTED: 8:25 p.m. EST, January 4, 2007
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CHICAGO, Illinois (AP) -- In a case fraught with ethical questions, the
parents of a severely mentally and physically disabled child have
stunted her growth to keep their little "pillow angel" a manageable and
more portable size.
The uterus and breast tissue of the bedridden 9-year-old girl were
removed at a Seattle hospital, and she received large doses of hormones
to halt her growth. She is now 4-foot-5; her parents say she would
otherwise probably reach a normal 5-foot-6.
The case has captured attention nationwide and abroad via the Internet,
with some decrying the parents' actions as perverse and akin to
eugenics. Some ethicists question the parents' claim that the drastic
treatment will benefit their daughter and allow them to continue caring
for her at home. (Watch a bioethicist discuss Ashley's condition. Video
)
University of Pennsylvania ethicist Art Caplan said the case is
troubling and reflects "slippery slope" thinking among parents who
believe "the way to deal with my kid with permanent behavioral problems
is to put them into permanent childhood."
Right or wrong, the couple's decision highlights a dilemma thousands of
parents face in struggling to care for severely disabled children as
they grow up.
"This particular treatment, even if it's OK in this situation, and I
think it probably is, is not a widespread solution and ignores the
large social issues about caring for people with disabilities," Dr.
Joel Frader, a medical ethicist at Chicago's Children's Memorial
Hospital, said Thursday. "As a society, we do a pretty rotten job of
helping caregivers provide what's necessary for these patients."
The case involves a girl identified only as Ashley on a blog her
parents created after her doctors wrote about her treatment in
October's Archives of Pediatrics & Adolescent Medicine. The journal did
not disclose the parents' names or where they live; the couple do not
identify themselves on their blog, either.
Shortly after birth, Ashley had feeding problems and showed severe
developmental delays. Her doctors diagnosed static encephalopathy,
which means severe brain damage. They do not know what caused it.
Her condition has left her in an infant state, unable to sit up, roll
over, hold a toy or walk or talk. Her parents say she will never get
better. She is alert, startles easily, and smiles, but does not
maintain eye contact, according to her parents, who call the
brown-haired little girl their "pillow angel."
She goes to school for disabled children, but her parents care for her
at home and say they have been unable to find suitable outside help.
An editorial in the medical journal called "the Ashley treatment"
ill-advised and questioned whether it will even work. But her parents
say it has succeeded so far.
She had surgery in July 2004 and recently completed the hormone
treatment. She weighs about 65 pounds, and is about 13 inches shorter
and 50 pounds lighter than she would be as an adult, according to her
parents' blog.
"Ashley's smaller and lighter size makes it more possible to include
her in the typical family life and activities that provide her with
needed comfort, closeness, security and love: meal time, car trips,
touch, snuggles, etc.," her parents wrote.
Also, Ashley's parents say keeping her small will reduce the risk of
bedsores and other conditions that can afflict bedridden patients. In
addition, they say preventing her from going through puberty means she
won't experience the discomfort of periods or grow breasts that might
develop breast cancer, which runs in the family.
"Even though caring for Ashley involves hard and continual work, she is
a blessing and not a burden," her parents say. Still, they write,
"Unless you are living the experience ... you have no clue what it is
like to be the bedridden child or their caregivers."
Caplan questioned how preventing normal growth could benefit the
patient. Treatment that is not for a patient's direct benefit "only
seems wrong to me," the ethicist said.
Dr. Douglas Diekema, an ethicist at Children's Hospital and Regional
Medical Center in Seattle, where Ashley was treated, said he met with
the parents and became convinced they were motivated by love and the
girl's best interests.
Diekema said he was mainly concerned with making sure the little girl
would actually benefit and not suffer any harm from the treatment. She
did not, and is doing well, he said.
"The more her parents can be touching her and caring for her ... and
involving her in family activities, the better for her," he said. "The
parents' argument was, `If she's smaller and lighter, we will be able
to do that for a longer period of time."'
___________________________________________________________________________
Shall we also start lobotomising the elderly if they show any signs of
discomfort, put them on bags for the ease of toileting them and starve
them to acceptable lifting levels?
If this is what to expect from a generation that murders the unborn
without guilt then what will follow that?
THE ALL-LOVING COLD-HEARTED ***** christian god, busy as usual.
why did the ALL-LOVING christain god allow this poor girl to be like this to
begin with?
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06 Jan 2007 07:05:46 PM |
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-THE ALL-LOVING COLD-HEARTED ***** christian god, busy as usual.
- why did the ALL-LOVING christain god allow this poor girl to be like
this to
- begin with?
God allows a lot of Satan's and Man's nastiness to happen for the sake
of free will but be assured at judgement God will take His own, who
used their free will for the glory of God, and the rest will truely be
under an all hating cold hearted ***** angel in a kingdom ruled by
hate and the law of the jungle where man is the bottom of the scum that
lives there and everything above Man will torment Man.
Job 2 (New International Version)
Job's Second Test
1 On another day the angels came to present themselves before the
LORD, and Satan also came with them to present himself before him. 2
And the LORD said to Satan, "Where have you come from?"
Satan answered the LORD, "From roaming through the earth and
going back and forth in it."
3 Then the LORD said to Satan, "Have you considered my servant Job?
There is no one on earth like him; he is blameless and upright, a man
who fears God and shuns evil. And he still maintains his integrity,
though you incited me against him to ruin him without any reason."
4 "Skin for skin!" Satan replied. "A man will give all he has for his
own life. 5 But stretch out your hand and strike his flesh and bones,
and he will surely curse you to your face."
6 The LORD said to Satan, "Very well, then, he is in your hands; but
you must spare his life."
7 So Satan went out from the presence of the LORD and afflicted Job
with painful sores from the soles of his feet to the top of his head. 8
Then Job took a piece of broken pottery and scraped himself with it as
he sat among the ashes.
9 His wife said to him, "Are you still holding on to your integrity?
Curse God and die!"
10 He replied, "You are talking like a foolish woman. Shall we accept
good from God, and not trouble?"
In all this, Job did not sin in what he said.
Mark 12:30-32 (New International Version)
30Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and
with all your mind and with all your strength.' 31The second is this:
'Love your neighbor as yourself.There is no commandment greater than
these."
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06 Jan 2007 07:39:23 PM |
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SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim wrote:
THE ALL-LOVING COLD-HEARTED ***** christian god, busy as usual.
why did the ALL-LOVING christain god allow this poor girl to be like this to
begin with?
It is up to humanity to deal with this poor girl.
Michael
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| User: "sam7i5erotdkhgcx" |
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07 Jan 2007 08:42:00 AM |
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http://novus-ordo-seclorum.us/
The Ashley Treatment is wrong. Wrong in so many fragging ways. They
treat Ashley as if she was a dog. You never take away a person's
humanity. You never make them less human. The parents, the doctors had
no right to do this.
Ashley is nine now. In the next 10 or 20 years they might find a
treatment or cure. I mean we can take cells and grow a liver or a
heart. There is hope for Ashley, there is hope for everyone. If this
was my child I could never do this.
There is no such thing as false hope, there is only hope.
I do not like the term (pillow angel). She is not a pillow angel. She
is not a baby doll. She is not a dog or cat that you can spay and
neuter. She is a human being and should always be treated as one. Her
parents and doctors are both sick. The doctors should have their
medical license taken away.
http://novus-ordo-seclorum.us/
martus wrote:
Surgery to stunt disabled girl's growth raises ethical questions
POSTED: 8:25 p.m. EST, January 4, 2007
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CHICAGO, Illinois (AP) -- In a case fraught with ethical questions, the
parents of a severely mentally and physically disabled child have
stunted her growth to keep their little "pillow angel" a manageable and
more portable size.
The uterus and breast tissue of the bedridden 9-year-old girl were
removed at a Seattle hospital, and she received large doses of hormones
to halt her growth. She is now 4-foot-5; her parents say she would
otherwise probably reach a normal 5-foot-6.
The case has captured attention nationwide and abroad via the Internet,
with some decrying the parents' actions as perverse and akin to
eugenics. Some ethicists question the parents' claim that the drastic
treatment will benefit their daughter and allow them to continue caring
for her at home. (Watch a bioethicist discuss Ashley's condition. Video
)
University of Pennsylvania ethicist Art Caplan said the case is
troubling and reflects "slippery slope" thinking among parents who
believe "the way to deal with my kid with permanent behavioral problems
is to put them into permanent childhood."
Right or wrong, the couple's decision highlights a dilemma thousands of
parents face in struggling to care for severely disabled children as
they grow up.
"This particular treatment, even if it's OK in this situation, and I
think it probably is, is not a widespread solution and ignores the
large social issues about caring for people with disabilities," Dr.
Joel Frader, a medical ethicist at Chicago's Children's Memorial
Hospital, said Thursday. "As a society, we do a pretty rotten job of
helping caregivers provide what's necessary for these patients."
The case involves a girl identified only as Ashley on a blog her
parents created after her doctors wrote about her treatment in
October's Archives of Pediatrics & Adolescent Medicine. The journal did
not disclose the parents' names or where they live; the couple do not
identify themselves on their blog, either.
Shortly after birth, Ashley had feeding problems and showed severe
developmental delays. Her doctors diagnosed static encephalopathy,
which means severe brain damage. They do not know what caused it.
Her condition has left her in an infant state, unable to sit up, roll
over, hold a toy or walk or talk. Her parents say she will never get
better. She is alert, startles easily, and smiles, but does not
maintain eye contact, according to her parents, who call the
brown-haired little girl their "pillow angel."
She goes to school for disabled children, but her parents care for her
at home and say they have been unable to find suitable outside help.
An editorial in the medical journal called "the Ashley treatment"
ill-advised and questioned whether it will even work. But her parents
say it has succeeded so far.
She had surgery in July 2004 and recently completed the hormone
treatment. She weighs about 65 pounds, and is about 13 inches shorter
and 50 pounds lighter than she would be as an adult, according to her
parents' blog.
"Ashley's smaller and lighter size makes it more possible to include
her in the typical family life and activities that provide her with
needed comfort, closeness, security and love: meal time, car trips,
touch, snuggles, etc.," her parents wrote.
Also, Ashley's parents say keeping her small will reduce the risk of
bedsores and other conditions that can afflict bedridden patients. In
addition, they say preventing her from going through puberty means she
won't experience the discomfort of periods or grow breasts that might
develop breast cancer, which runs in the family.
"Even though caring for Ashley involves hard and continual work, she is
a blessing and not a burden," her parents say. Still, they write,
"Unless you are living the experience ... you have no clue what it is
like to be the bedridden child or their caregivers."
Caplan questioned how preventing normal growth could benefit the
patient. Treatment that is not for a patient's direct benefit "only
seems wrong to me," the ethicist said.
Dr. Douglas Diekema, an ethicist at Children's Hospital and Regional
Medical Center in Seattle, where Ashley was treated, said he met with
the parents and became convinced they were motivated by love and the
girl's best interests.
Diekema said he was mainly concerned with making sure the little girl
would actually benefit and not suffer any harm from the treatment. She
did not, and is doing well, he said.
"The more her parents can be touching her and caring for her ... and
involving her in family activities, the better for her," he said. "The
parents' argument was, `If she's smaller and lighter, we will be able
to do that for a longer period of time."'
___________________________________________________________________________
Shall we also start lobotomising the elderly if they show any signs of
discomfort, put them on bags for the ease of toileting them and starve
them to acceptable lifting levels?
If this is what to expect from a generation that murders the unborn
without guilt then what will follow that?
And then came the 666 modified frontal lobe people whose only morality
is what a computer gives them through the frontal lobes. For their own
good they will feel no anger no ........
Extract of a divine revelation of hell.....................
(From Mary Baxter who was given a glimpse into the future.)
As I watched, I saw another man in another office become very angry at
the beast. He demanded to talk with him. He was yelling at the top of
his voice. The beast appeared and seemed very courteous as he said,
"Come, I can help you take care of all your problems."
The beast took the angry man into a large room and motioned for him to
lie down on a table. The room and the table reminded me of a hospital
emergency room. The man was given an anesthesia and wheeled beneath a
vast machine. The beast attached wires to the man's head and turned on
the machine. On the top of the machine were the words, "This mind
eraser belongs to the beast, 666."
When the man was removed from the table, his eyes had a vacant stare,
and his movements reminded one of a zombie in a movie. I saw a large
blank spot on the top of his head, and I knew his mind had been
surgically altered so he could be controlled by the beast.
The beast said, "Now, sir, don't you feel better? Didn't I say I could
take care of all your problems? I have given you a new mind. You will
have no worries or troubles now."
The man did not speak.
"You will obey my every command," said the beast as he picked up a
small object and attached it to the man's shirt. He spoke again to the
man, and he answered without moving his lips. He moved like a living
dead man. "You will work and not get angry or frustrated, nor will you
cry or be sad. You will work for me until you die. I have many like you
that I control. Some lie, some kill, some steal, some make war, some
have children, some run machinery, and some do other things. Yes, I
control everything." An evil laugh came from him.
The man was handed papers to sign. He gladly gave all his belongings to
the beast.
In my vision I saw the man leave the office of the beast, get in a car
and drive home. When he approached his wife, she tried to kiss him, but
he made no attempt to respond. He had no feeling for his wife or anyone
else. The beast had made him incapable of feeling any emotion.
The wife became very angry and screamed at her husband, but to no
avail. At last she said, "OK, I'll call the beast. He will know what to
do." After a quick phone call, she left the house and drove to the same
building her husband had just left.
The beast welcomed her in and said, "Tell me all your troubles. I am
sure I can help you."
A very handsome man took her by the arm and led her to the same table
her husband had been on earlier. After the same operation, she also
became a depersonalized slave of the beast.
I heard the beast ask her, "How do you feel?" She did not answer until
after he had attached a small object to her blouse. Then she
acknowledged that he was master and lord and began to worship him.
End times:
http://mart1963.tripod.com/index.htm
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07 Jan 2007 08:10:44 PM |
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"sam7i5erotdkhgcx" <dumpdrop@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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http://novus-ordo-seclorum.us/
The Ashley Treatment is wrong. Wrong in so many fragging ways. They
treat Ashley as if she was a dog. You never take away a person's
humanity. You never make them less human. The parents, the doctors had
no right to do this.
Ashley is nine now. In the next 10 or 20 years they might find a
treatment or cure. I mean we can take cells and grow a liver or a
heart. There is hope for Ashley, there is hope for everyone. If this
was my child I could never do this.
There is no such thing as false hope, there is only hope.
actually there is FALSE HOPE. it's called when you have FAITH in the
MASS-MURDERING, CHILD-KILLING COLD-HEARTED ***** christian god to do the
right thing. That is truly FALSE HOPE.
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| User: "martus" |
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08 Jan 2007 11:50:55 PM |
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..> actually there is FALSE HOPE. it's called when you have FAITH in the
..> MASS-MURDERING, CHILD-KILLING COLD-HEARTED ***** christian god to
do
..> .the right thing. That is truly FALSE HOPE.
God allows a lot of Satan's and Man's nastiness to happen for the sake
of free will but be assured at judgement God will take His own, who
used their free will for the glory of God, and the rest will truely be
under an all hating cold hearted ***** angel in a kingdom ruled by
hate and the law of the jungle where man is the bottom of the scum that
lives there and everything above Man will torment Man.
Job 2 (New International Version)
Job's Second Test
1 On another day the angels came to present themselves before the
LORD, and Satan also came with them to present himself before him. 2
And the LORD said to Satan, "Where have you come from?"
Satan answered the LORD, "From roaming through the earth and
going back and forth in it."
3 Then the LORD said to Satan, "Have you considered my servant Job?
There is no one on earth like him; he is blameless and upright, a man
who fears God and shuns evil. And he still maintains his integrity,
though you incited me against him to ruin him without any reason."
4 "Skin for skin!" Satan replied. "A man will give all he has for his
own life. 5 But stretch out your hand and strike his flesh and bones,
and he will surely curse you to your face."
6 The LORD said to Satan, "Very well, then, he is in your hands; but
you must spare his life."
7 So Satan went out from the presence of the LORD and afflicted Job
with painful sores from the soles of his feet to the top of his head. 8
Then Job took a piece of broken pottery and scraped himself with it as
he sat among the ashes.
9 His wife said to him, "Are you still holding on to your integrity?
Curse God and die!"
10 He replied, "You are talking like a foolish woman. Shall we accept
good from God, and not trouble?"
In all this, Job did not sin in what he said.
Mark 12:30-32 (New International Version)
30Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and
with all your mind and with all your strength.' 31The second is this:
'Love your neighbor as yourself.There is no commandment greater than
these."
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| User: "Father Haskell" |
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06 Jan 2007 03:19:15 AM |
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martus wrote:
Surgery to stunt disabled girl's growth raises ethical questions
POSTED: 8:25 p.m. EST, January 4, 2007
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CHICAGO, Illinois (AP) -- In a case fraught with ethical questions, the
parents of a severely mentally and physically disabled child have
stunted her growth to keep their little "pillow angel" a manageable and
more portable size.
Go check out her picture once more. Who is that peeking
in through the window?
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06 Jan 2007 06:39:49 AM |
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CHICAGO, Illinois (AP) -- In a case fraught with ethical questions, the
parents of a severely mentally and physically disabled child have
stunted her growth to keep their little "pillow angel" a manageable and
more portable size.
Those who know of the girl's case have decided in her best interests.
You don't know a thing about it, so why don't you just keep your 2
Cents to yourself?
Parents are responsible for making such decisions.
Do you want to adopt the girl and take complete responsibility for her
care for -- say-- the next 30 or 40 years?
The uterus and breast tissue of the bedridden 9-year-old girl were
removed at a Seattle hospital, and she received large doses of hormones
to halt her growth. She is now 4-foot-5; her parents say she would
otherwise probably reach a normal 5-foot-6.
The case has captured attention nationwide and abroad via the Internet,
with some decrying the parents' actions as perverse and akin to
eugenics. Some ethicists question the parents' claim that the drastic
treatment will benefit their daughter and allow them to continue caring
for her at home. (Watch a bioethicist discuss Ashley's condition. Video
)
University of Pennsylvania ethicist Art Caplan said the case is
troubling and reflects "slippery slope" thinking among parents who
believe "the way to deal with my kid with permanent behavioral problems
is to put them into permanent childhood."
Right or wrong, the couple's decision highlights a dilemma thousands of
parents face in struggling to care for severely disabled children as
they grow up.
"This particular treatment, even if it's OK in this situation, and I
think it probably is, is not a widespread solution and ignores the
large social issues about caring for people with disabilities," Dr.
Joel Frader, a medical ethicist at Chicago's Children's Memorial
Hospital, said Thursday. "As a society, we do a pretty rotten job of
helping caregivers provide what's necessary for these patients."
The case involves a girl identified only as Ashley on a blog her
parents created after her doctors wrote about her treatment in
October's Archives of Pediatrics & Adolescent Medicine. The journal did
not disclose the parents' names or where they live; the couple do not
identify themselves on their blog, either.
Shortly after birth, Ashley had feeding problems and showed severe
developmental delays. Her doctors diagnosed static encephalopathy,
which means severe brain damage. They do not know what caused it.
Her condition has left her in an infant state, unable to sit up, roll
over, hold a toy or walk or talk. Her parents say she will never get
better. She is alert, startles easily, and smiles, but does not
maintain eye contact, according to her parents, who call the
brown-haired little girl their "pillow angel."
She goes to school for disabled children, but her parents care for her
at home and say they have been unable to find suitable outside help.
An editorial in the medical journal called "the Ashley treatment"
ill-advised and questioned whether it will even work. But her parents
say it has succeeded so far.
She had surgery in July 2004 and recently completed the hormone
treatment. She weighs about 65 pounds, and is about 13 inches shorter
and 50 pounds lighter than she would be as an adult, according to her
parents' blog.
"Ashley's smaller and lighter size makes it more possible to include
her in the typical family life and activities that provide her with
needed comfort, closeness, security and love: meal time, car trips,
touch, snuggles, etc.," her parents wrote.
Also, Ashley's parents say keeping her small will reduce the risk of
bedsores and other conditions that can afflict bedridden patients. In
addition, they say preventing her from going through puberty means she
won't experience the discomfort of periods or grow breasts that might
develop breast cancer, which runs in the family.
"Even though caring for Ashley involves hard and continual work, she is
a blessing and not a burden," her parents say. Still, they write,
"Unless you are living the experience ... you have no clue what it is
like to be the bedridden child or their caregivers."
Caplan questioned how preventing normal growth could benefit the
patient. Treatment that is not for a patient's direct benefit "only
seems wrong to me," the ethicist said.
Dr. Douglas Diekema, an ethicist at Children's Hospital and Regional
Medical Center in Seattle, where Ashley was treated, said he met with
the parents and became convinced they were motivated by love and the
girl's best interests.
Diekema said he was mainly concerned with making sure the little girl
would actually benefit and not suffer any harm from the treatment. She
did not, and is doing well, he said.
"The more her parents can be touching her and caring for her ... and
involving her in family activities, the better for her," he said. "The
parents' argument was, `If she's smaller and lighter, we will be able
to do that for a longer period of time."'
___________________________________________________________________________
Shall we also start lobotomising the elderly if they show any signs of
discomfort, put them on bags for the ease of toileting them and starve
them to acceptable lifting levels?
If this is what to expect from a generation that murders the unborn
without guilt then what will follow that?
And then came the 666 modified frontal lobe people whose only morality
is what a computer gives them through the frontal lobes. For their own
good they will feel no anger no ........
Extract of a divine revelation of hell.....................
(From Mary Baxter who was given a glimpse into the future.)
As I watched, I saw another man in another office become very angry at
the beast. He demanded to talk with him. He was yelling at the top of
his voice. The beast appeared and seemed very courteous as he said,
"Come, I can help you take care of all your problems."
The beast took the angry man into a large room and motioned for him to
lie down on a table. The room and the table reminded me of a hospital
emergency room. The man was given an anesthesia and wheeled beneath a
vast machine. The beast attached wires to the man's head and turned on
the machine. On the top of the machine were the words, "This mind
eraser belongs to the beast, 666."
When the man was removed from the table, his eyes had a vacant stare,
and his movements reminded one of a zombie in a movie. I saw a large
blank spot on the top of his head, and I knew his mind had been
surgically altered so he could be controlled by the beast.
The beast said, "Now, sir, don't you feel better? Didn't I say I could
take care of all your problems? I have given you a new mind. You will
have no worries or troubles now."
The man did not speak.
"You will obey my every command," said the beast as he picked up a
small object and attached it to the man's shirt. He spoke again to the
man, and he answered without moving his lips. He moved like a living
dead man. "You will work and not get angry or frustrated, nor will you
cry or be sad. You will work for me until you die. I have many like you
that I control. Some lie, some kill, some steal, some make war, some
have children, some run machinery, and some do other things. Yes, I
control everything." An evil laugh came from him.
The man was handed papers to sign. He gladly gave all his belongings to
the beast.
In my vision I saw the man leave the office of the beast, get in a car
and drive home. When he approached his wife, she tried to kiss him, but
he made no attempt to respond. He had no feeling for his wife or anyone
else. The beast had made him incapable of feeling any emotion.
The wife became very angry and screamed at her husband, but to no
avail. At last she said, "OK, I'll call the beast. He will know what to
do." After a quick phone call, she left the house and drove to the same
building her husband had just left.
The beast welcomed her in and said, "Tell me all your troubles. I am
sure I can help you."
A very handsome man took her by the arm and led her to the same table
her husband had been on earlier. After the same operation, she also
became a depersonalized slave of the beast.
I heard the beast ask her, "How do you feel?" She did not answer until
after he had attached a small object to her blouse. Then she
acknowledged that he was master and lord and began to worship him.
End times:
http://mart1963.tripod.com/index.htm
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john w wrote:
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On 5 Jan 2007 21:16:44 -0800, "martus" <marttila69@hotmail.com> wrote:
Surgery to stunt disabled girl's growth raises ethical questions
POSTED: 8:25 p.m. EST, January 4, 2007
CHICAGO, Illinois (AP) -- In a case fraught with ethical questions, the
parents of a severely mentally and physically disabled child have
stunted her growth to keep their little "pillow angel" a manageable and
more portable size.
- Those who know of the girl's case have decided in her best
interests.
- You don't know a thing about it, so why don't you just keep your 2
- Cents to yourself?
- Parents are responsible for making such decisions.
- Do you want to adopt the girl and take complete responsibility for
her
- care for -- say-- the next 30 or 40 years?
Why don't those butchers chop off her legs as well as this would save 6
kilo's of weight, you know make her more manageble for her benefit,
you sickos.
If the parents cannot look after her then she should be in government
care and speaking from experience dealing with her adult weight would
not be a problem as I have looked after people weighing over a hundred
kilo quite easily with a hoist.
I guess you can't expect anything better from a generation that
butchers the unborn for spare parts or just for the kick of it and this
flow on effect of disregard of a human's life is is already having an
effect on the helpless in society.
Ashley butchered and Terri S. murdered, to name a few.
The uterus and breast tissue of the bedridden 9-year-old girl were
removed at a Seattle hospital, and she received large doses of hormones
to halt her growth. She is now 4-foot-5; her parents say she would
otherwise probably reach a normal 5-foot-6.
The case has captured attention nationwide and abroad via the Internet,
with some decrying the parents' actions as perverse and akin to
eugenics. Some ethicists question the parents' claim that the drastic
treatment will benefit their daughter and allow them to continue caring
for her at home. (Watch a bioethicist discuss Ashley's condition. Video
)
University of Pennsylvania ethicist Art Caplan said the case is
troubling and reflects "slippery slope" thinking among parents who
believe "the way to deal with my kid with permanent behavioral problems
is to put them into permanent childhood."
Right or wrong, the couple's decision highlights a dilemma thousands of
parents face in struggling to care for severely disabled children as
they grow up.
"This particular treatment, even if it's OK in this situation, and I
think it probably is, is not a widespread solution and ignores the
large social issues about caring for people with disabilities," Dr.
Joel Frader, a medical ethicist at Chicago's Children's Memorial
Hospital, said Thursday. "As a society, we do a pretty rotten job of
helping caregivers provide what's necessary for these patients."
The case involves a girl identified only as Ashley on a blog her
parents created after her doctors wrote about her treatment in
October's Archives of Pediatrics & Adolescent Medicine. The journal did
not disclose the parents' names or where they live; the couple do not
identify themselves on their blog, either.
Shortly after birth, Ashley had feeding problems and showed severe
developmental delays. Her doctors diagnosed static encephalopathy,
which means severe brain damage. They do not know what caused it.
Her condition has left her in an infant state, unable to sit up, roll
over, hold a toy or walk or talk. Her parents say she will never get
better. She is alert, startles easily, and smiles, but does not
maintain eye contact, according to her parents, who call the
brown-haired little girl their "pillow angel."
She goes to school for disabled children, but her parents care for her
at home and say they have been unable to find suitable outside help.
An editorial in the medical journal called "the Ashley treatment"
ill-advised and questioned whether it will even work. But her parents
say it has succeeded so far.
She had surgery in July 2004 and recently completed the hormone
treatment. She weighs about 65 pounds, and is about 13 inches shorter
and 50 pounds lighter than she would be as an adult, according to her
parents' blog.
"Ashley's smaller and lighter size makes it more possible to include
her in the typical family life and activities that provide her with
needed comfort, closeness, security and love: meal time, car trips,
touch, snuggles, etc.," her parents wrote.
Also, Ashley's parents say keeping her small will reduce the risk of
bedsores and other conditions that can afflict bedridden patients. In
addition, they say preventing her from going through puberty means she
won't experience the discomfort of periods or grow breasts that might
develop breast cancer, which runs in the family.
"Even though caring for Ashley involves hard and continual work, she is
a blessing and not a burden," her parents say. Still, they write,
"Unless you are living the experience ... you have no clue what it is
like to be the bedridden child or their caregivers."
Caplan questioned how preventing normal growth could benefit the
patient. Treatment that is not for a patient's direct benefit "only
seems wrong to me," the ethicist said.
Dr. Douglas Diekema, an ethicist at Children's Hospital and Regional
Medical Center in Seattle, where Ashley was treated, said he met with
the parents and became convinced they were motivated by love and the
girl's best interests.
Diekema said he was mainly concerned with making sure the little girl
would actually benefit and not suffer any harm from the treatment. She
did not, and is doing well, he said.
"The more her parents can be touching her and caring for her ... and
involving her in family activities, the better for her," he said. "The
parents' argument was, `If she's smaller and lighter, we will be able
to do that for a longer period of time."'
___________________________________________________________________________
Shall we also start lobotomising the elderly if they show any signs of
discomfort, put them on bags for the ease of toileting them and starve
them to acceptable lifting levels?
If this is what to expect from a generation that murders the unborn
without guilt then what will follow that?
And then came the 666 modified frontal lobe people whose only morality
is what a computer gives them through the frontal lobes. For their own
good they will feel no anger no ........
Extract of a divine revelation of hell.....................
(From Mary Baxter who was given a glimpse into the future.)
As I watched, I saw another man in another office become very angry at
the beast. He demanded to talk with him. He was yelling at the top of
his voice. The beast appeared and seemed very courteous as he said,
"Come, I can help you take care of all your problems."
The beast took the angry man into a large room and motioned for him to
lie down on a table. The room and the table reminded me of a hospital
emergency room. The man was given an anesthesia and wheeled beneath a
vast machine. The beast attached wires to the man's head and turned on
the machine. On the top of the machine were the words, "This mind
eraser belongs to the beast, 666."
When the man was removed from the table, his eyes had a vacant stare,
and his movements reminded one of a zombie in a movie. I saw a large
blank spot on the top of his head, and I knew his mind had been
surgically altered so he could be controlled by the beast.
The beast said, "Now, sir, don't you feel better? Didn't I say I could
take care of all your problems? I have given you a new mind. You will
have no worries or troubles now."
The man did not speak.
"You will obey my every command," said the beast as he picked up a
small object and attached it to the man's shirt. He spoke again to the
man, and he answered without moving his lips. He moved like a living
dead man. "You will work and not get angry or frustrated, nor will you
cry or be sad. You will work for me until you die. I have many like you
that I control. Some lie, some kill, some steal, some make war, some
have children, some run machinery, and some do other things. Yes, I
control everything." An evil laugh came from him.
The man was handed papers to sign. He gladly gave all his belongings to
the beast.
In my vision I saw the man leave the office of the beast, get in a car
and drive home. When he approached his wife, she tried to kiss him, but
he made no attempt to respond. He had no feeling for his wife or anyone
else. The beast had made him incapable of feeling any emotion.
The wife became very angry and screamed at her husband, but to no
avail. At last she said, "OK, I'll call the beast. He will know what to
do." After a quick phone call, she left the house and drove to the same
building her husband had just left.
The beast welcomed her in and said, "Tell me all your troubles. I am
sure I can help you."
A very handsome man took her by the arm and led her to the same table
her husband had been on earlier. After the same operation, she also
became a depersonalized slave of the beast.
I heard the beast ask her, "How do you feel?" She did not answer until
after he had attached a small object to her blouse. Then she
acknowledged that he was master and lord and began to worship him.
End times:
http://mart1963.tripod.com/index.htm
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"martus" <marttila69@hotmail.com> wrote in
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john w wrote:
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On 5 Jan 2007 21:16:44 -0800, "martus" <marttila69@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Surgery to stunt disabled girl's growth raises ethical questions
POSTED: 8:25 p.m. EST, January 4, 2007
CHICAGO, Illinois (AP) -- In a case fraught with ethical questions,
the parents of a severely mentally and physically disabled child
have stunted her growth to keep their little "pillow angel" a
manageable and more portable size.
- Those who know of the girl's case have decided in her best
interests.
- You don't know a thing about it, so why don't you just keep your 2
- Cents to yourself?
- Parents are responsible for making such decisions.
- Do you want to adopt the girl and take complete responsibility for
her
- care for -- say-- the next 30 or 40 years?
Why don't those butchers chop off her legs as well as this would save
6 kilo's of weight, you know make her more manageble for her benefit,
you sickos.
If the parents cannot look after her then she should be in government
care and speaking from experience dealing with her adult weight would
not be a problem as I have looked after people weighing over a hundred
kilo quite easily with a hoist.
I guess you can't expect anything better from a generation that
butchers the unborn for spare parts or just for the kick of it and
this flow on effect of disregard of a human's life is is already
having an effect on the helpless in society.
Ashley butchered and Terri S. murdered, to name a few.
Although nothing was said, it was my impression that these were "pro-life
/ anti-abortion" people.
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06 Jan 2007 07:41:46 PM |
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martus wrote:
I guess you can't expect anything better from a generation that
butchers the unborn for spare parts or just for the kick of it and this
flow on effect of disregard of a human's life is is already having an
effect on the helpless in society.
Ashley butchered and Terri S. murdered, to name a few.
In my opinion, Ashley's living tissue should be used to build a
prototype experimental cyborg.
If everything goes right, she will no longer be disabled.
Michael
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06 Jan 2007 09:05:51 PM |
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martus wrote:
john w wrote:
x-no-archive: yes
On 5 Jan 2007 21:16:44 -0800, "martus" <marttila69@hotmail.com> wrote:
Surgery to stunt disabled girl's growth raises ethical questions
POSTED: 8:25 p.m. EST, January 4, 2007
CHICAGO, Illinois (AP) -- In a case fraught with ethical questions, the
parents of a severely mentally and physically disabled child have
stunted her growth to keep their little "pillow angel" a manageable and
more portable size.
- Those who know of the girl's case have decided in her best
interests.
- You don't know a thing about it, so why don't you just keep your 2
- Cents to yourself?
- Parents are responsible for making such decisions.
- Do you want to adopt the girl and take complete responsibility for
her
- care for -- say-- the next 30 or 40 years?
Why don't those butchers chop off her legs as well as this would save 6
kilo's of weight, you know make her more manageble for her benefit,
you sickos.
If the parents cannot look after her then she should be in government
care and speaking from experience dealing with her adult weight would
not be a problem as I have looked after people weighing over a hundred
kilo quite easily with a hoist.
I guess you can't expect anything better from a generation that
butchers the unborn for spare parts or just for the kick of it and this
flow on effect of disregard of a human's life is is already having an
effect on the helpless in society.
Ashley butchered and Terri S. murdered, to name a few.
The ONLY difference between what society is doing to the unborn and the
helpless and what these serial killers below done in selling off the
torso's of their victims, besides getting their jollies, is that they
didn't have the approval of those in charge of their lives. And when
there are enough of these murders/butchers then it becomes some sort of
right to kill/butcher and those that try and stop this maddness are
called radicals because they are trying to stop this murder.
And these murders justified themselves by saying that think how many
people can be saved by these human parts and afterall these people
have no value and have no rights because they are poor or in the case
of the unborn no voice.
Delhi families' rage over serial killings
As Indian police link a series of child murders to a black market in
human organs, the faces of some of the disappeared, who vanished to
official indifference, are revealed for the first time
Dan McDougall in Noida, Uttar Pradesh
Sunday January 7, 2007
The Observer
Forty or more people, ranging from a boy aged 10 months to a
32-year-old mother of three, may have fallen victim to two of India's
most prolific serial killers as the authorities revealed their
suspicion that murders may have been carried out to harvest body parts
such as kidneys, livers and kneecaps.
Police in Noida, an upmarket satellite city of the Indian capital, New
Delhi, alleged last night that they had established 'a connection'
between a wealthy building contractor Mohinder Pandher and his servant
Satish Koli, the two men arrested for the killings, and their missing
neighbour RK Singh, a local doctor who was prosecuted in 2002 for
trying to sell a patient's kidney on the Indian black market.
Article continues
Pandher and Satish have been charged with kidnapping, raping and
murdering 10 children and five women, mostly teenagers. Police say
Satish has confessed that he and his master lured the victims into
their house with toffees and chocolates before raping and killing them.
However, confessions not made in court are inadmissible under Indian
law.
The claims came as The Observer acquired the first photographs of the
dead or missing, including six children who lived within 150 yards of
each other in Nithari Basti, the migrant workers' slum that borders the
main suspect's luxury three-storey villa.
All six youngsters had been missing since October last year. According
to relatives, their disappearances had been ignored by the local
police. Most of the missing were young girls.
Pandher, a dealer in earth-moving equipment, and his domestic help were
originally arrested last week after police picked up the servant for
questioning over his suspected involvement in the disappearance of
Madhu Haldar, a 15-year-old girl who went missing in late December.
Investigations later led to the discovery in the new year of skeletal
remains of at least 17 victims, including 13 children, stuffed in bags
and left in the drains behind and in front of the Pandher home. The
victims were all missing their torsos and kneecaps.
Since then the parents of more than 40 youngsters, all aged between
three and 18, have come forward to provide DNA as the search for other
bodies continues. 'There is a suspicion that a neighbour who was a
doctor might be involved in the human organ transplant racket,' senior
Noida police official Saumitra Yadav told The Observer yesterday. 'We
are increasingly resigned to that being the case.
'The doctor is missing. We fear he may have become a victim himself.
There are over 40 missing children in the immediate area. We can only
assume the worst at this point.'
Yesterday one of the doctors who examined the remains of the victims
questioned the original police theory that the murders had been
motivated solely by 'rape and lunacy'.
'The theory that they were sexual deviants is full of loopholes,' said
Vinod Kumar, chief medical superintendent at Noida district hospital.
'Whoever did it is seasoned and cold blooded. I am not claiming some
professional did it, but the finesse with which the mutilations were
done is bound to raise eyebrows.
'There is a definite pattern in the killings. Almost all have only the
heads, legs and arms. There are no torsos. Who does this kind of thing?
Someone who is profiting from the sale of body parts.'
Yesterday, as police fought to control further riots by angry locals,
the leader of India's ruling coalition, Sonia Gandhi, made a surprise
visit to the scene of the crime and harshly criticised the local police
handling of the investigation. Responsibility for it has now been
handed over to India's top federal investigating agency, the Central
Bureau of Investigation.
In the last week, six police officers have been suspended after it
emerged that Pandher, the prime suspect in the case, was arrested 13
months ago following a series of complaints from local residents in the
slum bordering his house who suspected his involvement in the
disappearance of their children. But the suspect walked out of the
police station the same night.
According to Sagar Berai, whose 12-year-old granddaughter was one of
the confirmed victims of the killers, his family has spent the last 10
months pleading with the police to investigate the children's case.
'We are all poor migrants from Nepal and eastern West Bengal state,' he
said. 'I am not alone; dozens of my neighbours have been living on the
doorstep of the local police station crying for help to find their
children. So many have disappeared in the last two years, many of them
from near the same water tank. The police repeatedly told me "You
Bengalis have so many children and you can't take care of them". They
mocked us, but we knew she had been taken.'
Vandana Sarkar, whose 20-year-old daughter, Pinky, disappeared in
October and has since been confirmed by police as among the victims,
yesterday described the experience of having to identify her body.
'I was given nothing of her. I only saw her white pants completely
drenched with blood,' she said, holding a photograph of Pinky at age 17
- round-faced and pretty in a sari, with her hands decorated with
henna. 'I cannot even begin to imagine what they must have done to
her.'
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On 6 Jan 2007 16:40:33 -0800, "martus" <marttila69@hotmail.com> wrote:
john w wrote:
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On 5 Jan 2007 21:16:44 -0800, "martus" <marttila69@hotmail.com> wrote:
Surgery to stunt disabled girl's growth raises ethical questions
POSTED: 8:25 p.m. EST, January 4, 2007
CHICAGO, Illinois (AP) -- In a case fraught with ethical questions, the
parents of a severely mentally and physically disabled child have
stunted her growth to keep their little "pillow angel" a manageable and
more portable size.
- Those who know of the girl's case have decided in her best
interests.
- You don't know a thing about it, so why don't you just keep your 2
- Cents to yourself?
- Parents are responsible for making such decisions.
- Do you want to adopt the girl and take complete responsibility for
her
- care for -- say-- the next 30 or 40 years?
Why don't those butchers chop off her legs as well as this would save 6
kilo's of weight, you know make her more manageble for her benefit,
you sickos.
If the parents cannot look after her then she should be in government
care
That truly is not for you to say!
john w
and speaking from experience dealing with her adult weight would
not be a problem as I have looked after people weighing over a hundred
kilo quite easily with a hoist.
I guess you can't expect anything better from a generation that
butchers the unborn for spare parts or just for the kick of it and this
flow on effect of disregard of a human's life is is already having an
effect on the helpless in society.
Ashley butchered and Terri S. murdered, to name a few.
The uterus and breast tissue of the bedridden 9-year-old girl were
removed at a Seattle hospital, and she received large doses of hormones
to halt her growth. She is now 4-foot-5; her parents say she would
otherwise probably reach a normal 5-foot-6.
The case has captured attention nationwide and abroad via the Internet,
with some decrying the parents' actions as perverse and akin to
eugenics. Some ethicists question the parents' claim that the drastic
treatment will benefit their daughter and allow them to continue caring
for her at home. (Watch a bioethicist discuss Ashley's condition. Video
)
University of Pennsylvania ethicist Art Caplan said the case is
troubling and reflects "slippery slope" thinking among parents who
believe "the way to deal with my kid with permanent behavioral problems
is to put them into permanent childhood."
Right or wrong, the couple's decision highlights a dilemma thousands of
parents face in struggling to care for severely disabled children as
they grow up.
"This particular treatment, even if it's OK in this situation, and I
think it probably is, is not a widespread solution and ignores the
large social issues about caring for people with disabilities," Dr.
Joel Frader, a medical ethicist at Chicago's Children's Memorial
Hospital, said Thursday. "As a society, we do a pretty rotten job of
helping caregivers provide what's necessary for these patients."
The case involves a girl identified only as Ashley on a blog her
parents created after her doctors wrote about her treatment in
October's Archives of Pediatrics & Adolescent Medicine. The journal did
not disclose the parents' names or where they live; the couple do not
identify themselves on their blog, either.
Shortly after birth, Ashley had feeding problems and showed severe
developmental delays. Her doctors diagnosed static encephalopathy,
which means severe brain damage. They do not know what caused it.
Her condition has left her in an infant state, unable to sit up, roll
over, hold a toy or walk or talk. Her parents say she will never get
better. She is alert, startles easily, and smiles, but does not
maintain eye contact, according to her parents, who call the
brown-haired little girl their "pillow angel."
She goes to school for disabled children, but her parents care for her
at home and say they have been unable to find suitable outside help.
An editorial in the medical journal called "the Ashley treatment"
ill-advised and questioned whether it will even work. But her parents
say it has succeeded so far.
She had surgery in July 2004 and recently completed the hormone
treatment. She weighs about 65 pounds, and is about 13 inches shorter
and 50 pounds lighter than she would be as an adult, according to her
parents' blog.
"Ashley's smaller and lighter size makes it more possible to include
her in the typical family life and activities that provide her with
needed comfort, closeness, security and love: meal time, car trips,
touch, snuggles, etc.," her parents wrote.
Also, Ashley's parents say keeping her small will reduce the risk of
bedsores and other conditions that can afflict bedridden patients. In
addition, they say preventing her from going through puberty means she
won't experience the discomfort of periods or grow breasts that might
develop breast cancer, which runs in the family.
"Even though caring for Ashley involves hard and continual work, she is
a blessing and not a burden," her parents say. Still, they write,
"Unless you are living the experience ... you have no clue what it is
like to be the bedridden child or their caregivers."
Caplan questioned how preventing normal growth could benefit the
patient. Treatment that is not for a patient's direct benefit "only
seems wrong to me," the ethicist said.
Dr. Douglas Diekema, an ethicist at Children's Hospital and Regional
Medical Center in Seattle, where Ashley was treated, said he met with
the parents and became convinced they were motivated by love and the
girl's best interests.
Diekema said he was mainly concerned with making sure the little girl
would actually benefit and not suffer any harm from the treatment. She
did not, and is doing well, he said.
"The more her parents can be touching her and caring for her ... and
involving her in family activities, the better for her," he said. "The
parents' argument was, `If she's smaller and lighter, we will be able
to do that for a longer period of time."'
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Shall we also start lobotomising the elderly if they show any signs of
discomfort, put them on bags for the ease of toileting them and starve
them to acceptable lifting levels?
If this is what to expect from a generation that murders the unborn
without guilt then what will follow that?
And then came the 666 modified frontal lobe people whose only morality
is what a computer gives them through the frontal lobes. For their own
good they will feel no anger no ........
Extract of a divine revelation of hell.....................
(From Mary Baxter who was given a glimpse into the future.)
As I watched, I saw another man in another office become very angry at
the beast. He demanded to talk with him. He was yelling at the top of
his voice. The beast appeared and seemed very courteous as he said,
"Come, I can help you take care of all your problems."
The beast took the angry man into a large room and motioned for him to
lie down on a table. The room and the table reminded me of a hospital
emergency room. The man was given an anesthesia and wheeled beneath a
vast machine. The beast attached wires to the man's head and turned on
the machine. On the top of the machine were the words, "This mind
eraser belongs to the beast, 666."
When the man was removed from the table, his eyes had a vacant stare,
and his movements reminded one of a zombie in a movie. I saw a large
blank spot on the top of his head, and I knew his mind had been
surgically altered so he could be controlled by the beast.
The beast said, "Now, sir, don't you feel better? Didn't I say I could
take care of all your problems? I have given you a new mind. You will
have no worries or troubles now."
The man did not speak.
"You will obey my every command," said the beast as he picked up a
small object and attached it to the man's shirt. He spoke again to the
man, and he answered without moving his lips. He moved like a living
dead man. "You will work and not get angry or frustrated, nor will you
cry or be sad. You will work for me until you die. I have many like you
that I control. Some lie, some kill, some steal, some make war, some
have children, some run machinery, and some do other things. Yes, I
control everything." An evil laugh came from him.
The man was handed papers to sign. He gladly gave all his belongings to
the beast.
In my vision I saw the man leave the office of the beast, get in a car
and drive home. When he approached his wife, she tried to kiss him, but
he made no attempt to respond. He had no feeling for his wife or anyone
else. The beast had made him incapable of feeling any emotion.
The wife became very angry and screamed at her husband, but to no
avail. At last she said, "OK, I'll call the beast. He will know what to
do." After a quick phone call, she left the house and drove to the same
building her husband had just left.
The beast welcomed her in and said, "Tell me all your troubles. I am
sure I can help you."
A very handsome man took her by the arm and led her to the same table
her husband had been on earlier. After the same operation, she also
became a depersonalized slave of the beast.
I heard the beast ask her, "How do you feel?" She did not answer until
after he had attached a small object to her blouse. Then she
acknowledged that he was master and lord and began to worship him.
End times:
http://mart1963.tripod.com/index.htm
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