Religions > Bible > WARNING-READING THE BIBLE IS BAD FOR YOUR CHILDREN'S HEALTH !
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"SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" |
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15 Jan 2006 05:19:34 PM |
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WARNING-READING THE BIBLE IS BAD FOR YOUR CHILDREN'S HEALTH ! |
Andrea Yates, a devout Christian home schooler, and she FRANTICALLY READ THE
BIBLE.
A devout christian, MURDERING CHILDREN, well, that's right in line with what
the loving, caring christian god does.
The Tragic End: In March of 2000, Andrea, on Rusty's urging, became pregnant
and stopped taking the Haldol. On November 30, 2000, Mary was born. Andrea
was coping but on March 12, her father died and immediately her mental state
digressed. She stopped talking, refused liquids, mutilated herself, and
would not feed Mary. She also frantically read the Bible.
She "frantically read the bible, she must have read the part where the
loving, caring christian god said to MURDER YOUR CHILDREN".
http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/01/09/andrea.yeates.ap/index.html
The loving, caring christian god said, MURDER YOUR CHILDREN, ALL OF THEM
THIS TIME.
HOUSTON, Texas (AP) -- Andrea Yates pleaded innocent by reason of insanity
in the drowning deaths of her children Monday as she made her first court
appearance since her 2002 capital murder convictions were overturned.
State District Judge Belinda Hill set a March 20 trial date.
Yates, 41, will remain in the custody of the Harris County Sheriff's
Department until she is retried for the deaths of three of her five
children. Her attorney, George Parnham, had asked that Yates be sent to Rusk
State Hospital until the new trial.
During her original trial, jurors rejected Yates' insanity defense and found
her guilty for the 2001 deaths of three of the children drowned in the
family bathtub: 7-year-old Noah, 5-year-old John and the youngest,
6-month-old Mary.
Evidence was presented about the drownings of the other two children --
Paul, 3, and Luke, 2 -- but Yates was not charged in their deaths.
Yates was sentenced to life in prison.
Her convictions were overturned last January by a state appeals court
because of testimony by the state's expert witness, forensic psychiatrist
Park Dietz. He testified that, shortly before Yates killed her five
children, television's "Law and Order" series broadcast an episode about a
woman with postpartum depression who drowned her children. No such episode
ever existed.
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| User: "Mark Donovan" |
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| Title: Re: WARNING-READING THE BIBLE IS BAD FOR YOUR CHILDREN'S HEALTH ! |
16 Jan 2006 07:58:20 AM |
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"SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" <killgod@killgod.com> wrote in message
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Andrea Yates, a devout Christian home schooler, and she FRANTICALLY READ
THE BIBLE.
A devout christian, MURDERING CHILDREN, well, that's right in line with
what the loving, caring christian god does.
A mass murderer John List, who murdered his three children, also his wife
and mother, was also a devoted christian.
"John Emil List was a man of faith. He read the Bible daily, taught Sunday
school and prayed often. He did everything he could to shelter his wife and
three children within the Lutheran faith."
More about John Emil List at
http://www.jesus21.com/poppydixon/crime/list.html
Mark
The Tragic End: In March of 2000, Andrea, on Rusty's urging, became
pregnant
and stopped taking the Haldol. On November 30, 2000, Mary was born. Andrea
was coping but on March 12, her father died and immediately her mental
state
digressed. She stopped talking, refused liquids, mutilated herself, and
would not feed Mary. She also frantically read the Bible.
She "frantically read the bible, she must have read the part where the
loving, caring christian god said to MURDER YOUR CHILDREN".
http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/01/09/andrea.yeates.ap/index.html
The loving, caring christian god said, MURDER YOUR CHILDREN, ALL OF THEM
THIS TIME.
HOUSTON, Texas (AP) -- Andrea Yates pleaded innocent by reason of insanity
in the drowning deaths of her children Monday as she made her first court
appearance since her 2002 capital murder convictions were overturned.
State District Judge Belinda Hill set a March 20 trial date.
Yates, 41, will remain in the custody of the Harris County Sheriff's
Department until she is retried for the deaths of three of her five
children. Her attorney, George Parnham, had asked that Yates be sent to
Rusk
State Hospital until the new trial.
During her original trial, jurors rejected Yates' insanity defense and
found
her guilty for the 2001 deaths of three of the children drowned in the
family bathtub: 7-year-old Noah, 5-year-old John and the youngest,
6-month-old Mary.
Evidence was presented about the drownings of the other two children --
Paul, 3, and Luke, 2 -- but Yates was not charged in their deaths.
Yates was sentenced to life in prison.
Her convictions were overturned last January by a state appeals court
because of testimony by the state's expert witness, forensic psychiatrist
Park Dietz. He testified that, shortly before Yates killed her five
children, television's "Law and Order" series broadcast an episode about a
woman with postpartum depression who drowned her children. No such episode
ever existed.
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| User: "Richard Dawkins" |
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| Title: Re: WARNING-READING THE GOD HATING IDIOT'S CRAP IS BAD FOR YOUR INTELLIGENCE |
16 Jan 2006 05:31:25 PM |
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"Mark Donovan" <md@md.kz> wrote in message
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Atheists are naturally less intelligent....
www.atheistfools.com
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| User: "Mark Donovan" |
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| Title: Re: WARNING-READING THE GOD HATING IDIOT'S CRAP IS BAD FOR YOUR INTELLIGENCE |
16 Jan 2006 06:58:28 PM |
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"Richard Dawkins" <Dawkins@Hell.com> wrote in message
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"Mark Donovan" <md@md.kz> wrote in message
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Atheists are naturally less intelligent....
www.atheistfools.com
First, I have not written what you cite as my writings. Doing this shows
immense lack of intelligence on your part.
Second, well...., maybe you're right. Giordano Bruno, Galileo and Copernicus
were idiots, that's for sure, while their persecutors were glorious giants
of Science of the Medieval times. And in the U.S., of course, all top
scientists are Christian fundamentalists, no doubt about it. The entire
faculty of Harvard and Yale, and Stanford, and Brown, and all of the best
universities are Christians to the bone and beyond. Well, good luck in
believing in this too.
Mark
"The level of education is unusually high among atheists: 39% are university
graduates and another 37% are high school graduates." From:
http://www.secularhumanism.org/index.php?section=library&page=buggle_20_4
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| User: "Terrell D Lewis" |
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16 Jan 2006 07:12:58 PM |
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"Mark Donovan" <md@md.kz> wrote in message
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"Richard Dawkins" <Dawkins@Hell.com> wrote in message
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"Mark Donovan" <md@md.kz> wrote in message
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Atheists are naturally less intelligent....
www.atheistfools.com
First, I have not written what you cite as my writings. Doing this shows
immense lack of intelligence on your part.
Second, well...., maybe you're right. Giordano Bruno, Galileo and
Copernicus were idiots, that's for sure, while their persecutors were
glorious giants of Science of the Medieval times. And in the U.S., of
course, all top scientists are Christian fundamentalists, no doubt about
it. The entire faculty of Harvard and Yale, and Stanford, and Brown, and
all of the best universities are Christians to the bone and beyond. Well,
good luck in believing in this too.
Mark
"The level of education is unusually high among atheists: 39% are
university graduates and another 37% are high school graduates." From:
So ... what you are saying is 24% of athiests never graduated high school?
Or, to put another way, a quarter off all athiest never graduated high
school.
Who was it that said, There are three kinds of lies, Lies, Damned Lies and
Statistics (to which I would add Fishing Stories, Golf stories, and stories
about last weekend's date).
--
Terrell
http://www.songbookz.net
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| User: "Richard Dawkins" |
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| Title: Re: WARNING-READING THE GOD HATING IDIOT'S CRAP IS BAD FOR YOUR INTELLIGENCE |
16 Jan 2006 08:16:12 PM |
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"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7@NOSPAM.net> wrote in message
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"Mark Donovan" <md@md.kz> wrote in message
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"Richard Dawkins" <Dawkins@Hell.com> wrote in message
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"Mark Donovan" <md@md.kz> wrote in message
news:0ENyf.8712$US3.5309@trnddc04...
Atheists are naturally less intelligent....
www.atheistfools.com
First, I have not written what you cite as my writings. Doing this shows
immense lack of intelligence on your part.
Second, well...., maybe you're right. Giordano Bruno, Galileo and
Copernicus were idiots, that's for sure, while their persecutors were
glorious giants of Science of the Medieval times. And in the U.S., of
course, all top scientists are Christian fundamentalists, no doubt about
it. The entire faculty of Harvard and Yale, and Stanford, and Brown, and
all of the best universities are Christians to the bone and beyond. Well,
good luck in believing in this too.
Mark
"The level of education is unusually high among atheists: 39% are
university graduates and another 37% are high school graduates." From:
So ... what you are saying is 24% of athiests never graduated high school?
Or, to put another way, a quarter off all athiest never graduated high
school.
Who was it that said, There are three kinds of lies, Lies, Damned Lies and
Statistics (to which I would add Fishing Stories, Golf stories, and
stories about last weekend's date).
--
Terrell
http://www.songbookz.net
Read em and weep God Hater.
It must not be true because you don't want to believe it huh?
~snickers!~
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| User: "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" |
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| Title: Re: WARNING-worshipping a mass-murdering, child-killing christian god is bad for your intelligence |
16 Jan 2006 07:52:01 PM |
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use your common sense and brain, don't worship a being that demands that
people MURDER (er excuse me, I mean sacrifice) their only son
then the loving, caring christian god said:
Genesis 22:2
Then God said, "Take your son, your only son, Isaac, whom you love, and go
to the region of Moriah. MURDER him there as a burnt offering on one of the
mountains I will tell you about."
and if you want some more of god's wisdom, make sure you comb your hair or
the creator of heaven and universe will be upset with you and will MURDER
you because you didn't comb your hair. Don't tear your clothes either or
he'll be mad at the entire town. (lmao, and you christian nuts actually
believe the HORSESHIT in the bible??????) How stupid are you people?
Leviticus 10:6 6 Then Moses said to Aaron and his sons Eleazar and Ithamar,
"Do not let your hair become unkempt, [a] and do not tear your clothes, or
you will die and the LORD will be angry with the whole community. But your
relatives, all the house of Israel, may mourn for those the LORD has
destroyed by fire.
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| User: "Richard Dawkins" |
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| Title: Re: WARNING-READING THE GOD HATING IDIOT'S CRAP IS BAD FOR YOUR INTELLIGENCE |
16 Jan 2006 08:15:00 PM |
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"Mark Donovan" <md@md.kz> wrote in message
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"Richard Dawkins" <Dawkins@Hell.com> wrote in message
news:f1Wyf.35$2O4.4229@news.uswest.net...
"Mark Donovan" <md@md.kz> wrote in message
news:0ENyf.8712$US3.5309@trnddc04...
Atheists are naturally less intelligent....
www.atheistfools.com
First, I have not written what you cite as my writings. Doing this shows
immense lack of intelligence on your part.
Second, well...., maybe you're right. Giordano Bruno, Galileo and
Copernicus were idiots, that's for sure, while their persecutors were
glorious giants of Science of the Medieval times. And in the U.S., of
course, all top scientists are Christian fundamentalists, no doubt about
it. The entire faculty of Harvard and Yale, and Stanford, and Brown, and
all of the best universities are Christians to the bone and beyond. Well,
good luck in believing in this too.
Mark
"The level of education is unusually high among atheists: 39% are
university graduates and another 37% are high school graduates." From:
http://www.secularhumanism.org/index.php?section=library&page=buggle_20_4
And the level of Education for secularists is even higher.
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| User: "TRUECRISTIAN" |
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| Title: Re: WARNING-READING THE BIBLE IS BAD FOR YOUR CHILDREN'S HEALTH ! |
16 Jan 2006 08:14:45 AM |
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FAG
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| User: "DaveJr" |
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16 Jan 2006 12:02:28 PM |
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"TRUECRISTIAN" <XL3@OPERAMAIL.COM> wrote in message
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FAG
Kristian Kook Kountry
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| User: "Torch" |
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16 Jan 2006 10:22:04 AM |
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"TRUECRISTIAN" <XL3@OPERAMAIL.COM> wrote in message
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FAG
Nicely put together argument, a formidable use of the Socratic dialectic -
so if I might summarise your position for those less gifted among us, true
christian men like yourself get off on other christians killing their kids
and anyone who might find something to criticise here is in fact a
homosexual - astonishing
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| User: "kathryn" |
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16 Jan 2006 12:52:23 PM |
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"TRUECRISTIAN" <XL3@OPERAMAIL.COM> wrote in message
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FAG
and there's evidence for you
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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16 Jan 2006 01:07:08 PM |
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"TRUECRISTIAN" <XL3@OPERAMAIL.COM> wrote in message
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FAG
What does the Film Actor's Guild have to do with anything?
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
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| User: "stoney" |
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20 Jan 2006 11:25:59 PM |
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On 16 Jan 2006 06:14:45 -0800, "TRUECRISTIAN" <XL3@OPERAMAIL.COM> wrote
in alt.atheism
FAG
I'm so glad you finally had the courage to come out of the closet.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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| User: "JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrichs effort" |
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16 Jan 2006 07:10:16 PM |
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TRUECRISTIAN wrote:
FAG
That's the funniest thing I've seen in a week.
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| User: "john w" |
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16 Jan 2006 09:55:15 AM |
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On 16 Jan 2006 06:14:45 -0800, "TRUECRISTIAN" <XL3@OPERAMAIL.COM>
wrote:
copyright 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of
this article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of
the author
FAG
That was a constructive comment!
:-(
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| User: "Bin Daire Dunnat" |
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16 Jan 2006 09:11:31 AM |
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:58:20 GMT, "Mark Donovan" <@md.kz> used
recycled pixels to say:
Andrea Yates, a devout Christian home schooler, and she FRANTICALLY READ
THE BIBLE.
A devout christian, MURDERING CHILDREN, well, that's right in line with
what the loving, caring christian god does.
A mass murderer John List, who murdered his three children, also his wife
and mother, was also a devoted christian.
{snipped}
Upon reading this a section in Matthew 7:21 - 23 immediately came to
mind:
"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the Kingdom of
heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in
your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many
miracles?' The I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from
me, you evildoers!'"
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| User: "stoney" |
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20 Jan 2006 11:25:20 PM |
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:11:31 -0500, Bin Daire Dunnat
<Someone@Someplace.to> wrote in alt.atheism
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:58:20 GMT, "Mark Donovan" <@md.kz> used
recycled pixels to say:
Andrea Yates, a devout Christian home schooler, and she FRANTICALLY READ
THE BIBLE.
A devout christian, MURDERING CHILDREN, well, that's right in line with
what the loving, caring christian god does.
A mass murderer John List, who murdered his three children, also his wife
and mother, was also a devoted christian.
{snipped}
Upon reading this a section in Matthew 7:21 - 23 immediately came to
mind:
"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the Kingdom of
heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in
your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many
miracles?' The I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from
me, you evildoers!'"
Free clue, sport. All are mere actors in a pointless play hitting their
marks and spouting their lines as scripted eons ago-according to your
superstition. Omniscience and Omnipotence-remember?
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Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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| User: "john w" |
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16 Jan 2006 09:54:43 AM |
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:58:20 GMT, "Mark Donovan" <md@md.kz> wrote:
copyright 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of
this article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of
the author
"SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" <killgod@killgod.com> wrote in message
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Andrea Yates, a devout Christian home schooler, and she FRANTICALLY READ
THE BIBLE.
A devout christian, MURDERING CHILDREN, well, that's right in line with
what the loving, caring christian god does.
Don't blame God for people's untreated mental illness. Remember, she
had stopped taking her medications.
That is not God's fault.
That is Andrea's fault.
And when do you plan-- or do you plan-- to give God the credit for all
the GOOD in the world?
It is totally dishonest to ignore God when it's time to hand out
credit, and to ONLY think of God when there's blame to hand out.
If He's responsible for the evil in the world, then He's equally
responsible for the good.
And YOU are a liar.
A mass murderer John List, who murdered his three children, also his wife
and mother, was also a devoted christian.
Obviously not.
Man sees the outside. God sees the inside.
And what has caused you to hate God so much?
john w
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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16 Jan 2006 06:08:42 PM |
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"john w" <johnw@yow.how> wrote in message
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:58:20 GMT, "Mark Donovan" <md@md.kz> wrote:
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"SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" <killgod@killgod.com> wrote in message
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Andrea Yates, a devout Christian home schooler, and she FRANTICALLY READ
THE BIBLE.
A devout christian, MURDERING CHILDREN, well, that's right in line with
what the loving, caring christian god does.
Don't blame God for people's untreated mental illness. Remember, she
had stopped taking her medications.
That is not God's fault.
That is Andrea's fault.
And when do you plan-- or do you plan-- to give God the credit for all
the GOOD in the world?
It is totally dishonest to ignore God when it's time to hand out
credit, and to ONLY think of God when there's blame to hand out.
If He's responsible for the evil in the world, then He's equally
responsible for the good.
And YOU are a liar.
A mass murderer John List, who murdered his three children, also his wife
and mother, was also a devoted christian.
Obviously not.
Man sees the outside. God sees the inside.
And what has caused you to hate God so much?
john w
You still don't understand atheism, after all this time.
Atheists aren't angry at your poxy 'god'. We lack
belief in its existence. You can't hate what doesn't exist.
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^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
Michelle Malkin (Mickey) aa list#1
BAAWA Knight & Bible Thumper Thumper
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
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| User: "Mark Donovan" |
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16 Jan 2006 10:12:50 AM |
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"john w" <johnw@yow.how> wrote in message
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:58:20 GMT, "Mark Donovan" <md@md.kz> wrote:
copyright 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of
this article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of
the author
"SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" <killgod@killgod.com> wrote in message
news:aMAyf.8817$%W1.1371@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
Andrea Yates, a devout Christian home schooler, and she FRANTICALLY READ
THE BIBLE.
A devout christian, MURDERING CHILDREN, well, that's right in line with
what the loving, caring christian god does.
Don't blame God for people's untreated mental illness. Remember, she
had stopped taking her medications.
That is not God's fault.
That is Andrea's fault.
She was badly mentally ill, because god messed up the chemistry of her
brain.
I'm not sure how you would be able to control your actions and make sound
judgments if you consummed a large amount of hallucinogens. You might
understand that what you are doing is wrong, but you just can't stop, the
chemicals in your brain are driving your actions, not you. Many mentally ill
patients have hallucinogens produced naturally in their brain.
Apparently because god wants to have fun playing with their brains.
Apparently this makes him feel powerful and important. Apparently if not
everybody is worshipping him daily, his self-esteem drops down badly and he
needs to mess up some people's lives to feel better. Why else?
Mark
And when do you plan-- or do you plan-- to give God the credit for all
the GOOD in the world?
It is totally dishonest to ignore God when it's time to hand out
credit, and to ONLY think of God when there's blame to hand out.
If He's responsible for the evil in the world, then He's equally
responsible for the good.
And YOU are a liar.
A mass murderer John List, who murdered his three children, also his wife
and mother, was also a devoted christian.
Obviously not.
Man sees the outside. God sees the inside.
And what has caused you to hate God so much?
john w
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| User: "john w" |
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17 Jan 2006 01:18:40 AM |
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 16:12:50 GMT, "Mark Donovan" <md@md.kz> wrote:
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this article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of
the author
"john w" <johnw@yow.how> wrote in message
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:58:20 GMT, "Mark Donovan" <md@md.kz> wrote:
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"SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" <killgod@killgod.com> wrote in message
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Andrea Yates, a devout Christian home schooler, and she FRANTICALLY READ
THE BIBLE.
A devout christian, MURDERING CHILDREN, well, that's right in line with
what the loving, caring christian god does.
Don't blame God for people's untreated mental illness. Remember, she
had stopped taking her medications.
That is not God's fault.
That is Andrea's fault.
She was badly mentally ill, because god messed up the chemistry of her
brain.
There you go, blaming God for all the bad in the world. Was she not
an adult? Did she not have control of her ability to take her
medications?
john w
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 16:12:50 GMT, "Mark Donovan" <md@md.kz> wrote:
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"SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" <killgod@killgod.com> wrote in message
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Andrea Yates, a devout Christian home schooler, and she FRANTICALLY READ
THE BIBLE.
A devout christian, MURDERING CHILDREN, well, that's right in line with
what the loving, caring christian god does.
Don't blame God for people's untreated mental illness. Remember, she
had stopped taking her medications.
That is not God's fault.
That is Andrea's fault.
She was badly mentally ill, because god messed up the chemistry of her
brain.
There you go, blaming God for all the bad in the world. Was she not an
If a god and in fact created the world in everything in it, but I got a
does not only responsible for the good but any and all evil. I realize
the concept is beyond your capability to comprehend, just like the concept
of accepting an argument for sake of discussion is the routine for Usenet,
another thing beyond your capacity to comprehend
adult? Did she not have control of her ability to take her medications?
Not if a god had decided she was going to kill her children or quit taking
her medications. One of the many problems of being omni- sentient, is
that it is a devout position a less for that concept/god/Demon/whatever it
knows what will pass and that does pass. Free will does not come into it
unless you desire to limit your gods to where you can understand them.
john w
which wannabe this time jw, the unofficial spokesperson for god, one of
them anyway?
walksalone who does understand the problem, jw actually assumes it knows
what a god is and how a god thinks even though he pretends no one else
can.
--
The Hadith Qudsi 6
The first of people against whom judgment will be pronounced on the Day of Resurrection will be a
man who died a martyr. He will be brought and Allah will make known to him His favours and he will
recognize them.
The Almighty will say: And what did you do about them? He will say: I fought for you until I died a
martyr. He will say: You have lied - you did but fight that it might be said [of you]: He is courageous.
And so it was said.
Then he will be ordered to be dragged along on his face until he is cast into Hell-fire.
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16 Jan 2006 10:49:08 AM |
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john w wrote:
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:58:20 GMT, "Mark Donovan" <md@md.kz> wrote:
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"SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" <killgod@killgod.com> wrote in message
news:aMAyf.8817$%W1.1371@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
Andrea Yates, a devout Christian home schooler, and she FRANTICALLY READ
THE BIBLE.
A devout christian, MURDERING CHILDREN, well, that's right in line with
what the loving, caring christian god does.
Don't blame God for people's untreated mental illness. Remember, she
had stopped taking her medications.
That is not God's fault.
On the contrary, if you have an omniscient and omnipotent god,
*everything* is its fault. Your god could have prevented a mentally ill
individual from committing murder in most likely countless ways, if it
existed. But it didn't. So here's your choice: is your god apathetic,
evil, impotent, ignorant, or nonexistent?
That is Andrea's fault.
And when do you plan-- or do you plan-- to give God the credit for all
the GOOD in the world?
When evidence of a god is presented.
It is totally dishonest to ignore God when it's time to hand out
credit, and to ONLY think of God when there's blame to hand out.
Not really. We don't believe in your god, so it doesn't make sense to
congratulate a figment of somebody else's imagination when something
good happens. But when something bad happens, we enjoy pointing out how
utterly ridiculous your claims are that your god is apathetic, evil,
impotent, ignorant, or nonexistent.
If He's responsible for the evil in the world, then He's equally
responsible for the good.
That doesn't necessarily follow, but I'll grant it. However, if it's
responsible for the good in the world, then by simple inaction is it
responsible for the evil, which contradicts the notions that it is
benevolent, omnipotent and omniscient.
And YOU are a liar.
A mass murderer John List, who murdered his three children, also his wife
and mother, was also a devoted christian.
Obviously not.
*bagpipes*
Man sees the outside. God sees the inside.
And what has caused you to hate God so much?
Who could possibly hate a figment of somebody else's imagination?
Unless of course you're referring to what those people induce
themselves to do under the direction of said figment. Say murder, for
instance.
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17 Jan 2006 01:19:29 AM |
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wrote:
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john w wrote:
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:58:20 GMT, "Mark Donovan" <md@md.kz> wrote:
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"SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" <killgod@killgod.com> wrote in message
news:aMAyf.8817$%W1.1371@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
Andrea Yates, a devout Christian home schooler, and she FRANTICALLY READ
THE BIBLE.
A devout christian, MURDERING CHILDREN, well, that's right in line with
what the loving, caring christian god does.
Don't blame God for people's untreated mental illness. Remember, she
had stopped taking her medications.
That is not God's fault.
On the contrary, if you have an omniscient and omnipotent god,
"If" ?
If you don't even believe in God, then any DISCUSSION of "God" is
pointless.
john w
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17 Jan 2006 04:33:29 AM |
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 23:19:29 -0800, john w <johnw@yow.how> wrote:
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wrote:
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john w wrote:
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:58:20 GMT, "Mark Donovan" <md@md.kz> wrote:
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"SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" <killgod@killgod.com> wrote in message
news:aMAyf.8817$%W1.1371@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
Andrea Yates, a devout Christian home schooler, and she FRANTICALLY READ
THE BIBLE.
A devout christian, MURDERING CHILDREN, well, that's right in line with
what the loving, caring christian god does.
Don't blame God for people's untreated mental illness. Remember, she
had stopped taking her medications.
That is not God's fault.
On the contrary, if you have an omniscient and omnipotent god,
"If" ?
If you don't even believe in God, then any DISCUSSION of "God" is
pointless.
But pointing out the idiocies of certain religious beliefs is not
pointless. You believe in an omniscient and omnipotent god, and you
apparently also believe that he is not responsible for any of the evil
in the world. The fact that you are unable to see the contradiction
is very interesting.
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)
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20 Jan 2006 11:27:23 PM |
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On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:33:29 +0100, thomas p
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 23:19:29 -0800, john w <johnw@yow.how> wrote:
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"SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" <killgod@killgod.com> wrote in message
news:aMAyf.8817$%W1.1371@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
Andrea Yates, a devout Christian home schooler, and she FRANTICALLY READ
THE BIBLE.
A devout christian, MURDERING CHILDREN, well, that's right in line with
what the loving, caring christian god does.
Don't blame God for people's untreated mental illness. Remember, she
had stopped taking her medications.
That is not God's fault.
On the contrary, if you have an omniscient and omnipotent god,
"If" ?
If you don't even believe in God, then any DISCUSSION of "God" is
pointless.
But pointing out the idiocies of certain religious beliefs is not
pointless. You believe in an omniscient and omnipotent god, and you
apparently also believe that he is not responsible for any of the evil
in the world. The fact that you are unable to see the contradiction
is very interesting.
The Paedophile can't even find its own arse with both hands so more
advanced things aren't possible.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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21 Jan 2006 05:02:11 AM |
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On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:27:23 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:33:29 +0100, thomas p
<tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote in alt.atheism
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 23:19:29 -0800, john w <johnw@yow.how> wrote:
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wrote:
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john w wrote:
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:58:20 GMT, "Mark Donovan" <md@md.kz> wrote:
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"SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" <killgod@killgod.com> wrote in message
news:aMAyf.8817$%W1.1371@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
Andrea Yates, a devout Christian home schooler, and she FRANTICALLY READ
THE BIBLE.
A devout christian, MURDERING CHILDREN, well, that's right in line with
what the loving, caring christian god does.
Don't blame God for people's untreated mental illness. Remember, she
had stopped taking her medications.
That is not God's fault.
On the contrary, if you have an omniscient and omnipotent god,
"If" ?
If you don't even believe in God, then any DISCUSSION of "God" is
pointless.
But pointing out the idiocies of certain religious beliefs is not
pointless. You believe in an omniscient and omnipotent god, and you
apparently also believe that he is not responsible for any of the evil
in the world. The fact that you are unable to see the contradiction
is very interesting.
The Paedophile can't even find its own arse with both hands so more
advanced things aren't possible.
One can almost predict which posts they will not respond to.
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)
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21 Jan 2006 04:55:44 PM |
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On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 12:02:11 +0100, thomas p
<tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote in alt.atheism
On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:27:23 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:33:29 +0100, thomas p
<tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote in alt.atheism
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 23:19:29 -0800, john w <johnw@yow.how> wrote:
[]
But pointing out the idiocies of certain religious beliefs is not
pointless. You believe in an omniscient and omnipotent god, and you
apparently also believe that he is not responsible for any of the evil
in the world. The fact that you are unable to see the contradiction
is very interesting.
The Paedophile can't even find its own arse with both hands so more
advanced things aren't possible.
One can almost predict which posts they will not respond to.
One can do so with a surprisingly high rate of accuracy.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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wrote:
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john w wrote:
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"SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" <killgod@killgod.com> wrote in message
news:aMAyf.8817$%W1.1371@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
Andrea Yates, a devout Christian home schooler, and she FRANTICALLY READ
THE BIBLE.
A devout christian, MURDERING CHILDREN, well, that's right in line with
what the loving, caring christian god does.
Don't blame God for people's untreated mental illness. Remember, she
had stopped taking her medications.
That is not God's fault.
On the contrary, if you have an omniscient and omnipotent god,
"If" ?
If you don't even believe in God, then any DISCUSSION of "God" is
pointless.
But pointing out the idiocies of certain religious beliefs is not
pointless. You believe in an omniscient and omnipotent god, and you
apparently also believe that he is not responsible for any of the evil
in the world. The fact that you are unable to see the contradiction
is very interesting.
What you are suggesting-- in fact -- is that Henry Ford is personally
responsible for all the deaths that have occurred from car crashes.
The only way for there to not be evil in the world is for God to have
made us all robots.
God has given us each the ability to CHOOSE to do right or to do
wrong.
He does not make those choices for us.
The ability He gave us to choose proves His omnipotence.
The fact that you CHOOSE to not see those FACTS is VERY interesting.
You may as well prove that gravity doesn't exist, since you've never
seen it.
You may as well be a blind person and say the sun doesn't exist,
because you have never seen the sun.
Some things ARE beyond human understanding.
And if you refuse to accept anything that you do not FULLY understand,
then you live in a tiny world.
And yet you are a hypocrite. Toss out your computer, get the raw
materials, and create a computer from scratch. No designs. You must do
it out of your head.
Throw away your cell phone.
Get raw materials. Build a cell phone from scratch, without a design.
You involve yourself with things you don't understand every day.
Yet you REFUSE Eternal Life.
Why?
Because you'd have to acknowledge One greater than you.
And THAT is the rub.
john w
There are joys which long to be ours.
God sends ten thousands truths, which come
about us like birds seeking inlet;
but we are shut up to them, and so
they bring us nothing, but sit and sing
awhile upon the roof, and then fly away.
-- Henry Ward Beecher>
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)
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22 Jan 2006 12:12:16 PM |
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God has given us each the ability to CHOOSE to do right or to do
wrong.
He does not make those choices for us.
really religious nut?, how about when the LOVING, CARING SHITHOLE CREATOR
SAID MURDER YOUR ONLY SON just to satisfy his sick lust for power.
How does FREE WILL come into play when the SUPREME SHITHOLE CREATOR SAYS TO
COMMITT MURDER ????????????????????
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