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Topic: Religions > Bible
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Date: 05 Mar 2006 01:20:46 PM
Object: Was "Re: Sprinkling in baptism"

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Was "Re: Sprinkling in baptism"
My preference would be for full immersion for adult believers. However, I
have no objection to children being baptised, or sprinkling being used as a
method.

It is my view that the following Scripture provides a "type";

Hebrews 9:19-22 NKJV
For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the
law, he took the blood of calves and goats, with water, scarlet wool, and
hyssop, and sprinkled both the book itself and all the people, saying,
"This is the blood of the covenant which God has commanded you." Then
likewise he sprinkled with blood both the tabernacle and all the vessels of
the ministry. And according to the law almost all things are purified with
blood, and without shedding of blood there is no remission.

Hello,
Infant and small children baptism is not a Bible teaching.
In the Bible, there is no mention of any baby being baptized in the
first century. Thus infant baptism is a practice that started outside
of the Bible, and AFTER the first century. This was at a time when
false teachers were around. (see 2 Pe 2:1-3)
And there is a very good reason why infants were not baptized. Notice
Jesus' command concerning baptism and think of this applying to a baby.
Mt 28:19,20,
"Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the
name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and
teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am
with you always, to the very end of the age." (NIV)
Notice the words "teaching them to obey everything I have commanded
you.". Thus the person being baptized was aware what he was doing, and
believed in Jesus and his teachings. Babies cannot do that.
Again notice who was baptized at Ac 8:12,
"But when they believed Philip as he preached the good news of the
kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both
men and women." (NIV)
Observe here "both men and women" were baptized. These were people who
"believed Philip" concerning what he was preaching. If babies or small
children were present, they could not have "believed" and took to heart
what Philip was preaching, so that is why they would not have been
baptized.
Thus in the Bible (which is God's inspired word; 2 Ti 3:16), the
emphasis is on first believing and understanding what was preached, and
THEN getting baptized, thus infant baptism is not a teaching of
scripture, but a tradition of men. (see also Jesus' words at Mark 7:9)
And you are correct, when the Bible gives details on baptism, it is
always total immersion.
Concerning Heb 9:19-22, the sprinkling going on had to do with
validating and putting in force the new covenant. The Bible shows no
connection to it with baptism.
I hope the above Scriptures have helped to increase your Bible
knowledge.
Sincerely, James
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Title: Re: Was "Re: Sprinkling in baptism" 05 Mar 2006 01:32:45 PM
An interesting direct knock on the Catholic faith from yet another
begruntled Protestant. You should know James, that on the eighth day a
baby was circumcised. This was done so that the baby child may have
faith. Are we then to say that an eight year old child must first
agree to be circumsized. NO! This was a commandment of God. Likewise
the commandment of Jesus is carried out on young children just as the
circumcision was. Catholic's also have communion to share in the table
of the Lord, and confirmation to REAFFIRM THEIR BAPTISM AND FAITH AT A
RESONABLE AGE. Please do not try a petty knock on faith by using
scripture with little relevance. We all know that Last days have not
befallen us yet.
-Mike
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