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"James" |
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26 Nov 2005 03:08:02 PM |
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Was "Re: The trinity the true origins" |
"Toasty" <toasty88@gmail.com>
Re: The trinity the true origins
With some research into the bible and the history books, it seems that
the trinity was a pagan belivef that was slowly introduced in to the
christian churches.
More infomation on the research can be found at www.themeofthebible.com
go to the articles section and download The unknown god file.
Hello,
Yes, you are correct. The Trinity doctrine is not from the Bible.
Actually it is post-Biblical. It came into existence basically in its
present form, in the 4th century. Even the word "Trinity" is not found
in the Holy Scriptures. As The New Encyclopędia Britannica says,
"Neither the word Trinity, nor the explicit doctrine as such, appears
in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to
contradict the Shema in the Old Testament: 'Hear, O Israel: The Lord
our God is one Lord' (Deut. 6:4). . . . The doctrine developed
gradually over several centuries and through many controversies. . . .
By the end of the 4th century . . . the doctrine of the Trinity took
substantially the form it has maintained ever since."
And other Scriptures show that Jesus was not God, thus no part of a
post-Biblical 'trinity'. For instance, Jesus was created, but God has
always existed. Col 1:15,
"He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation."
(NASB)
Ps 90:2,
"Before the mountains were born or you brought forth the earth and the
world, from everlasting to everlasting you are God." (NIV)
Yes, upon research, a person finds that the popular Trinity doctrine
is a doctrine from men, not from God. And here is what Jesus said what
God thought about religious doctrines from men:
"And in vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments
of men.'' (Mt 15:9; NKJV)
Sincerely, James
***********************************
Want a FREE home Bible study?
Have Jehovah's Witnesses questions?
Go to the authorized source:
http://www.watchtower.org
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| User: "Dore" |
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| Title: Re: Was "Re: The trinity the true origins" |
27 Nov 2005 03:19:38 PM |
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"James" <arox@surfbest.net> wrote in message
news:deiho19gtonglnoeb27fjq6bbkailimnvi@4ax.com...
"Toasty" <toasty88@gmail.com>
Re: The trinity the true origins
With some research into the bible and the history books, it seems that
the trinity was a pagan belivef that was slowly introduced in to the
christian churches.
More infomation on the research can be found at www.themeofthebible.com
go to the articles section and download The unknown god file.
Hello,
Yes, you are correct. The Trinity doctrine is not from the Bible.
Actually it is post-Biblical. It came into existence basically in its
present form, in the 4th century. Even the word "Trinity" is not found
in the Holy Scriptures. As The New Encyclopędia Britannica says,
"Neither the word Trinity, nor the explicit doctrine as such, appears
in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to
contradict the Shema in the Old Testament: 'Hear, O Israel: The Lord
our God is one Lord' (Deut. 6:4). . . . The doctrine developed
gradually over several centuries and through many controversies. . . .
By the end of the 4th century . . . the doctrine of the Trinity took
substantially the form it has maintained ever since."
The term trinity is used to define the Godhead of the Father, the Son, and
the Holy Spirit, which is FACT. The Bible is full of references to each of
these three members of the Godhead and speaks specifically of who they are,
what they do and their divine attributes, which are ALL ONE and ALL fully
GOD.
--
Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com
"James" <arox@surfbest.net> wrote in message
news:deiho19gtonglnoeb27fjq6bbkailimnvi@4ax.com...
"Toasty" <toasty88@gmail.com>
Re: The trinity the true origins
With some research into the bible and the history books, it seems that
the trinity was a pagan belivef that was slowly introduced in to the
christian churches.
More infomation on the research can be found at www.themeofthebible.com
go to the articles section and download The unknown god file.
Hello,
Yes, you are correct. The Trinity doctrine is not from the Bible.
Actually it is post-Biblical. It came into existence basically in its
present form, in the 4th century. Even the word "Trinity" is not found
in the Holy Scriptures. As The New Encyclopędia Britannica says,
"Neither the word Trinity, nor the explicit doctrine as such, appears
in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to
contradict the Shema in the Old Testament: 'Hear, O Israel: The Lord
our God is one Lord' (Deut. 6:4). . . . The doctrine developed
gradually over several centuries and through many controversies. . . .
By the end of the 4th century . . . the doctrine of the Trinity took
substantially the form it has maintained ever since."
And other Scriptures show that Jesus was not God, thus no part of a
post-Biblical 'trinity'. For instance, Jesus was created, but God has
always existed. Col 1:15,
"He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation."
(NASB)
Ps 90:2,
"Before the mountains were born or you brought forth the earth and the
world, from everlasting to everlasting you are God." (NIV)
Yes, upon research, a person finds that the popular Trinity doctrine
is a doctrine from men, not from God. And here is what Jesus said what
God thought about religious doctrines from men:
"And in vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments
of men.'' (Mt 15:9; NKJV)
Sincerely, James
***********************************
Want a FREE home Bible study?
Have Jehovah's Witnesses questions?
Go to the authorized source:
http://www.watchtower.org
***********************************
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| User: "Read The Bible" |
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| Title: Re: Was "Re: The trinity the true origins" |
29 Nov 2005 08:31:30 AM |
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James posted:
The Trinity doctrine is not from the Bible.
(The Trinity doctrine is from the Bible)
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the
Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three
are one.
James posted:
Neither the word Trinity, nor the explicit
doctrine as such, appears in the New Testament
(While the word "Bible" doesn't appear in the
New Testament, the doctrine of the Trinity does)
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with
God, and the Word was God. The same was in the
beginning with God. All things were made by him; and
without him was not any thing made that was made.
James posted:
nor did Jesus and his followers intend to
contradict the Shema in the Old Testament: 'Hear,
O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord'
(Amen. The Trinity doesn't contradict monotheism)
I (Jesus) and my Father are one.
James posted:
other Scriptures show that Jesus was not God
(Actually, no scriptures show that Jesus was not God)
And Thomas answered and said unto him (Jesus),
My Lord and my God.
James posted:
He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn
of all creation
(Jesus is firstborn not in time but in authority,
like Ephraim and David were)
Ephraim is my firstborn.
I will make him (David) my firstborn, higher than
the kings of the earth.
That in all things he (Jesus) might have the
preeminence.
James posted:
from everlasting to everlasting you are God
(Jesus is from everlasting and He is the mighty God)
Thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little
among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall
he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel;
whose goings forth have been from of old, from
everlasting.
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given:
and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and
his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The
mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of
Peace.
James posted:
Yes, upon research, a person finds that the popular
Trinity doctrine is a doctrine from men, not from
God
(Actually, no, upon research, a person finds that the
Trinity doctrine is a doctrine from God, while the
false doctrine that Jesus is an angel is from men)
For unto which of the angels said he at any time,
Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And
again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to
me a Son? And again, when he bringeth in the
firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all
the angels of God worship him. And of the angels he
saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his
ministers a flame of fire. But unto the Son he saith,
Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever.
Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the
doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in
the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and
the Son.
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jt posted:
the term "Jehovah" isn't in the Bible either.
(As Dore quoted, "Jehovah" is one way people have
translated the Hebrew tetragrammaton transliterated
YHWH or YHVH, and sometimes translated as Yahweh
or Yahveh)
*******
Jim posted:
the Word of The Lord God Almighty is completely
perfect and perfectly complete.
The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver
tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven
times.
The holy scriptures (are) able to make thee wise
unto salvation through faith which is in Christ
Jesus. All scripture is given by inspiration of God,
and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for
correction, for instruction in righteousness: That
the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished
unto all good works.
Jim posted:
God loves you.
God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we
were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Much more then,
being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved
from wrath through him.
Jim posted:
let Him into your life and you'll then know more
than you could ever know on your own.
Even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the
Spirit of God. Now we have received, not the spirit
of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that
we might know the things that are freely given to us
of God. Which things also we speak, not in the words
which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy
Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with
spiritual. But the natural man receiveth not the
things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness
unto him: neither can he know them, because they are
spiritually discerned. But he that is spiritual
judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no
man. For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he
may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.
*******
Jim posted:
to believe God is to know God.
We have known and believed the love that God hath to
us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love
dwelleth in God, and God in him.
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| User: "jt" |
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| Title: Re: Was "Re: The trinity the true origins" |
26 Nov 2005 12:51:01 PM |
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James wrote:
"Toasty" <toasty88@gmail.com>
Re: The trinity the true origins
With some research into the bible and the history books, it seems
that the trinity was a pagan belivef that was slowly introduced in
to the christian churches.
More infomation on the research can be found at
www.themeofthebible.com go to the articles section and download The
unknown god file.
Hello,
Yes, you are correct. The Trinity doctrine is not from the Bible.
Actually it is post-Biblical. It came into existence basically in its
present form, in the 4th century. Even the word "Trinity" is not found
in the Holy Scriptures. As The New Encyclopędia Britannica says,
"Neither the word Trinity, nor the explicit doctrine as such, appears
in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to
contradict the Shema in the Old Testament: 'Hear, O Israel: The Lord
our God is one Lord' (Deut. 6:4). . . . The doctrine developed
gradually over several centuries and through many controversies. . . .
By the end of the 4th century . . . the doctrine of the Trinity took
substantially the form it has maintained ever since."
And other Scriptures show that Jesus was not God, thus no part of a
post-Biblical 'trinity'. For instance, Jesus was created, but God has
always existed. Col 1:15,
"He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation."
(NASB)
Ps 90:2,
"Before the mountains were born or you brought forth the earth and the
world, from everlasting to everlasting you are God." (NIV)
Yes, upon research, a person finds that the popular Trinity doctrine
is a doctrine from men, not from God. And here is what Jesus said what
God thought about religious doctrines from men:
"And in vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments
of men.'' (Mt 15:9; NKJV)
Sincerely, James
***********************************
Want a FREE home Bible study?
Have Jehovah's Witnesses questions?
Go to the authorized source:
http://www.watchtower.org
***********************************
Interestingly, the term "Jehovah" isn't in the Bible either.
--
jt
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| User: "Dore" |
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| Title: Re: Was "Re: The trinity the true origins" |
27 Nov 2005 03:22:31 PM |
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"jt" <jt612@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:762if.36784$6y4.20288@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
Interestingly, the term "Jehovah" isn't in the Bible either.
Actually, the name Jehovah IS in the Bible, but God prefers to be called,
"Father". The "concept" of the trinity is throughout the Bible as well.
Ex 6:3
3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of
God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.
KJV
Ps 83:18
18 That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most
high over all the earth.
KJV
Isa 12:2
2 Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the LORD
JEHOVAH is my strength and my song; he also is become my salvation.
KJV
Isa 26:4
4 Trust ye in the LORD for ever: for in the LORD JEHOVAH is everlasting
strength:
KJV
--
Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com
"jt" <jt612@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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James wrote:
"Toasty" <toasty88@gmail.com>
Re: The trinity the true origins
With some research into the bible and the history books, it seems
that the trinity was a pagan belivef that was slowly introduced in
to the christian churches.
More infomation on the research can be found at
www.themeofthebible.com go to the articles section and download The
unknown god file.
Hello,
Yes, you are correct. The Trinity doctrine is not from the Bible.
Actually it is post-Biblical. It came into existence basically in its
present form, in the 4th century. Even the word "Trinity" is not found
in the Holy Scriptures. As The New Encyclopędia Britannica says,
"Neither the word Trinity, nor the explicit doctrine as such, appears
in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to
contradict the Shema in the Old Testament: 'Hear, O Israel: The Lord
our God is one Lord' (Deut. 6:4). . . . The doctrine developed
gradually over several centuries and through many controversies. . . .
By the end of the 4th century . . . the doctrine of the Trinity took
substantially the form it has maintained ever since."
And other Scriptures show that Jesus was not God, thus no part of a
post-Biblical 'trinity'. For instance, Jesus was created, but God has
always existed. Col 1:15,
"He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation."
(NASB)
Ps 90:2,
"Before the mountains were born or you brought forth the earth and the
world, from everlasting to everlasting you are God." (NIV)
Yes, upon research, a person finds that the popular Trinity doctrine
is a doctrine from men, not from God. And here is what Jesus said what
God thought about religious doctrines from men:
"And in vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments
of men.'' (Mt 15:9; NKJV)
Sincerely, James
***********************************
Want a FREE home Bible study?
Have Jehovah's Witnesses questions?
Go to the authorized source:
http://www.watchtower.org
***********************************
Interestingly, the term "Jehovah" isn't in the Bible either.
--
jt
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| User: "Jim Ledford" |
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27 Nov 2005 04:43:52 PM |
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Dore wrote:
[....]
Actually, the name Jehovah IS in the Bible, but God prefers to be called,
"Father". The "concept" of the trinity is throughout the Bible as well.
Ex 6:3
3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of
God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.
KJV
thank you very much for bringing Ex 6:3 up and placing
it right here where I could be made aware of this that
I needed to know.
you've done a good thing.
:)
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| User: "jt" |
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27 Nov 2005 04:53:18 PM |
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Jim Ledford wrote:
Dore wrote:
[....]
Actually, the name Jehovah IS in the Bible, but God prefers to be
called, "Father". The "concept" of the trinity is throughout the
Bible as well.
Ex 6:3
3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the
name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.
KJV
thank you very much for bringing Ex 6:3 up and placing
it right here where I could be made aware of this that
I needed to know.
you've done a good thing.
:)
Except that it's incorrect.
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jt
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| User: "Jim Ledford" |
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27 Nov 2005 10:34:08 PM |
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jt wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote:
Dore wrote:
[....]
Actually, the name Jehovah IS in the Bible, but God prefers to be
called, "Father". The "concept" of the trinity is throughout the
Bible as well.
Ex 6:3
3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the
name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.
KJV
thank you very much for bringing Ex 6:3 up and placing
it right here where I could be made aware of this that
I needed to know.
you've done a good thing.
:)
Except that it's incorrect.
the Word of The Lord God Almighty is
completely prefect and perfectly complete.
God loves you. let Him into your life and you'll
then know more than you could ever know on your own.
--
jt
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| User: "jt" |
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27 Nov 2005 10:41:23 PM |
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Jim Ledford wrote:
jt wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote:
Dore wrote:
[....]
Actually, the name Jehovah IS in the Bible, but God prefers to be
called, "Father". The "concept" of the trinity is throughout the
Bible as well.
Ex 6:3
3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the
name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to
them. KJV
thank you very much for bringing Ex 6:3 up and placing
it right here where I could be made aware of this that
I needed to know.
you've done a good thing.
:)
Except that it's incorrect.
the Word of The Lord God Almighty is
completely prefect and perfectly complete.
God loves you. let Him into your life and you'll
then know more than you could ever know on your own.
What makes you think I don't have God in my life?
--
jt
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| User: "Jim Ledford" |
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27 Nov 2005 10:59:45 PM |
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jt wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote:
jt wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote:
Dore wrote:
[....]
Actually, the name Jehovah IS in the Bible, but God prefers to be
called, "Father". The "concept" of the trinity is throughout the
Bible as well.
Ex 6:3
3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the
name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to
them. KJV
thank you very much for bringing Ex 6:3 up and placing
it right here where I could be made aware of this that
I needed to know.
you've done a good thing.
:)
Except that it's incorrect.
the Word of The Lord God Almighty is
completely prefect and perfectly complete.
God loves you. let Him into your life and you'll
then know more than you could ever know on your own.
What makes you think I don't have God in my life?
do you make a lie out of [Ex 6:3]
to trust God is to believe God.
to believe God is to know God.
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jt
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| User: "jt" |
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27 Nov 2005 11:19:38 PM |
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Jim Ledford wrote:
jt wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote:
jt wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote:
Dore wrote:
[....]
Actually, the name Jehovah IS in the Bible, but God prefers to be
called, "Father". The "concept" of the trinity is throughout the
Bible as well.
Ex 6:3
3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the
name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to
them. KJV
thank you very much for bringing Ex 6:3 up and placing
it right here where I could be made aware of this that
I needed to know.
you've done a good thing.
:)
Except that it's incorrect.
the Word of The Lord God Almighty is
completely prefect and perfectly complete.
God loves you. let Him into your life and you'll
then know more than you could ever know on your own.
What makes you think I don't have God in my life?
do you make a lie out of [Ex 6:3]
I simply said the KJV rendering is incorrect. The term "Jehovah" is not in
the Hebrew scriptures.
<snip>
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jt
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| User: "Jim Ledford" |
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28 Nov 2005 06:51:39 AM |
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jt wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote:
jt wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote:
jt wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote:
Dore wrote:
[....]
Actually, the name Jehovah IS in the Bible, but God prefers to be
called, "Father". The "concept" of the trinity is throughout the
Bible as well.
Ex 6:3
3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the
name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to
them. KJV
thank you very much for bringing Ex 6:3 up and placing
it right here where I could be made aware of this that
I needed to know.
you've done a good thing.
:)
Except that it's incorrect.
the Word of The Lord God Almighty is
completely prefect and perfectly complete.
God loves you. let Him into your life and you'll
then know more than you could ever know on your own.
What makes you think I don't have God in my life?
do you make a lie out of [Ex 6:3]
I simply said the KJV rendering is incorrect.
the Word of The Lord God Almighty is
completely prefect and perfectly complete.
the KJB is the Word of God breathed by God
Himself inspired by God Himself into existence.
notice how you say "version" while the ones enlightened
by: to trust God is to believe God. to believe God is to
know God, say KJ Bible. words are powerful and should
be considered carefully in that their use reflects the
users belief. God holds, knows and delivers the one truth.
man has his 'versions'.
The term "Jehovah" is not in the Hebrew scriptures.
<snip>
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jt
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| User: "jt" |
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28 Nov 2005 07:06:56 AM |
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Jim Ledford wrote:
jt wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote:
jt wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote:
jt wrote:
Jim Ledford wrote:
Dore wrote:
[....]
Actually, the name Jehovah IS in the Bible, but God prefers to
be called, "Father". The "concept" of the trinity is
throughout the Bible as well.
Ex 6:3
3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by
the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not
known to them. KJV
thank you very much for bringing Ex 6:3 up and placing
it right here where I could be made aware of this that
I needed to know.
you've done a good thing.
:)
Except that it's incorrect.
the Word of The Lord God Almighty is
completely prefect and perfectly complete.
God loves you. let Him into your life and you'll
then know more than you could ever know on your own.
What makes you think I don't have God in my life?
do you make a lie out of [Ex 6:3]
I simply said the KJV rendering is incorrect.
the Word of The Lord God Almighty is
completely prefect and perfectly complete.
the KJB is the Word of God breathed by God
Himself inspired by God Himself into existence.
notice how you say "version" while the ones enlightened
by: to trust God is to believe God. to believe God is to
know God, say KJ Bible. words are powerful and should
be considered carefully in that their use reflects the
users belief. God holds, knows and delivers the one truth.
man has his 'versions'.
The term "Jehovah" is not in the Hebrew scriptures.
Okay, thanks for letting me know what I was dealing with. Bye now.
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jt
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| User: "jt" |
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27 Nov 2005 04:52:51 PM |
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Dore wrote:
"jt" <jt612@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:762if.36784$6y4.20288@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
Interestingly, the term "Jehovah" isn't in the Bible either.
Actually, the name Jehovah IS in the Bible, but God prefers to be
called, "Father". The "concept" of the trinity is throughout the
Bible as well.
Find it in the Hebrew Bible. Here's a tip: you won't find it...it doesn't
exist.
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jt
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| User: "Dore" |
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28 Nov 2005 05:57:02 PM |
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"jt" <jt612@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:TKqif.32883$Y82.9487@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
Find it in the Hebrew Bible. Here's a tip: you won't find it...it
doesn't exist.
So please quote the English translation of Ex 6:3, PS 12:2, & Isa 26:4 from
the Hebrew Bible.
I speak English, not Hebrew.
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Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com
"jt" <jt612@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Dore wrote:
"jt" <jt612@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:762if.36784$6y4.20288@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
Interestingly, the term "Jehovah" isn't in the Bible either.
Actually, the name Jehovah IS in the Bible, but God prefers to be
called, "Father". The "concept" of the trinity is throughout the
Bible as well.
Find it in the Hebrew Bible. Here's a tip: you won't find it...it
doesn't exist.
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28 Nov 2005 09:44:38 PM |
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Dore wrote:
"jt" <jt612@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Find it in the Hebrew Bible. Here's a tip: you won't find it...it
doesn't exist.
So please quote the English translation of Ex 6:3, PS 12:2, & Isa
26:4 from the Hebrew Bible.
I speak English, not Hebrew.
Since there were no vowels, all that can be done is transliteration. It's
YHWH. In Hebrew, it's yod, he, vav, he. In the 6th Century, the Masoretic
scribes began inserting vowel marks into their translation of the OT.
Because the Jews refused to pronounce the name of God out of a sense of
reverence, the vowel marks for the Hebrew term "Adonai," which means "Lord,"
were used by the Masoretes. The result, when transliterated into English,
becomes "JeHoVaH." It is a "name" that is completely manufactured by
scribes.
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29 Nov 2005 07:13:07 PM |
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"jt" <jt612@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Since there were no vowels, all that can be done is transliteration. It's
YHWH. In Hebrew, it's yod, he, vav, he. In the 6th Century, the
Masoretic scribes began inserting vowel marks into their translation of
the OT. Because the Jews refused to pronounce the name of God out of a
sense of reverence, the vowel marks for the Hebrew term "Adonai," which
means "Lord," were used by the Masoretes. The result, when transliterated
into English, becomes "JeHoVaH." It is a "name" that is completely
manufactured by scribes.
Thank you for that explanation, that is very interesting. I never did like
the name "Jehovah" anyway, and the Father wants to be called "Father" and I
only ever heard the angels use the name "God" when speaking of Him.
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Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com
"jt" <jt612@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Dore wrote:
"jt" <jt612@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:TKqif.32883$Y82.9487@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
Find it in the Hebrew Bible. Here's a tip: you won't find it...it
doesn't exist.
So please quote the English translation of Ex 6:3, PS 12:2, & Isa
26:4 from the Hebrew Bible.
I speak English, not Hebrew.
Since there were no vowels, all that can be done is transliteration. It's
YHWH. In Hebrew, it's yod, he, vav, he. In the 6th Century, the
Masoretic scribes began inserting vowel marks into their translation of
the OT. Because the Jews refused to pronounce the name of God out of a
sense of reverence, the vowel marks for the Hebrew term "Adonai," which
means "Lord," were used by the Masoretes. The result, when transliterated
into English, becomes "JeHoVaH." It is a "name" that is completely
manufactured by scribes.
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jt
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