Ways that Anti-Choicers CON Themselves, #4 -- "The Tide is Turning -- Finally"



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Topic: Religions > Bible
User: "Craig Chilton -- Countdown to 1/20/09: 1,509 days to BYE-BYE Bushie! Forever!!"
Date: 05 Dec 2004 12:44:40 AM
Object: Ways that Anti-Choicers CON Themselves, #4 -- "The Tide is Turning -- Finally"
On 4 Dec 2004 14:16:06 -0800,
Terry G. <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" wrote

[ ... ]

...not a large number of people want abortion to be illegal.
According to Gallop, it always hovers around 17%.

You are such a liar. More than 50% of Americans oppose uncon-
trolled abortion [upon request]. The figure you cite is only those who
oppose abortion of any kind under all cirsumstances. But leave it to
a dishonest [egalitarian] like you to leave that part out.

Any Anti-Choicer who allows for ANY exception whatsoever is
NOT a true Anti-Choicer, because that is an open ADMISSION on
his part that mere reproductive-process entities aren't people.
And if they're not people, they are as this analogy says:
egg : chicken :: reproductive-process entity : person
Thus, the only true Anti-Choicers do number only a mere 17%.
The mealy-mouthed ones in the middle, while not being Pro-
Choicers either, are most assuredly HYPOCRITES.
***BOTTOM LINE*** -- You and your ilk LOSE. Big-time!
P.S. -- There's no such thing as a "pro-abort," so the only LIAR
in here is **you.** Especially since pretty much all egalitarians
are honest people. They have no need to lie, you see, because --
UNlike the Anti-Choicers -- ALL of the relevant facts are on the
PRO-Choice side of the issue.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Every time a person supports bigotry in public, and presents NO
relevant FACTS to back his/her stance in behalf of a loathsome
agenda against individual liberties and human rights, that person
has -- ironically -- further **damaged** the cause he/she supports.
And every time a fair-minded and sensible egalitarian opposes
such a bigot, publicly, and **presents** relevant FACTS that are
damaging to the bigot's agenda, that TOO is an additional nail in
the coffin lid of the agenda, and a push of that casket CLOSER
to the Drain of Extinction -- its well-deserved ultimate destination.
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
(E-Mail address is valid when removing _ from it.)
.

User: "John Savard"

Title: Re: Ways that Anti-Choicers CON Themselves, #4 -- "The Tide is Turning -- Finally" 05 Dec 2004 11:49:58 AM
On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 06:44:40 GMT,
(Craig Chilton --
Countdown to 1/20/09: 1,509 days to BYE-BYE Bushie! Forever!!) wrote,
in part:

Any Anti-Choicer who allows for ANY exception whatsoever is
NOT a true Anti-Choicer, because that is an open ADMISSION on
his part that mere reproductive-process entities aren't people.

Some of us would have supported shooting down an airplane with innocent
hostages in it on the way to hitting a building, and so abortion for
*legitimate medical reasons* is consistent with that - unlike, of
course, abortion in the case of a deformed fetus, or in cases of rape or
incest, other very common exceptions some people are willing to allow.
Incidentally, I'm glad you're looking at the bright side, and not
concluding, as your pre-election comments implied, that it is inevitable
that the U.S. will become a dictatorship since G. W. Bush got
re-elected.
John Savard
http://home.ecn.ab.ca/~jsavard/index.html
.
User: "Craig Chilton -- Countdown to 1/20/09: 1,507 days to BYE-BYE Bushie! Forever!!"

Title: Re: Ways that Anti-Choicers CON Themselves, #4 -- "The Tide is Turning -- Finally" 05 Dec 2004 07:39:09 PM
On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 17:49:58 GMT,
John Savard <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:

Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:

Any Anti-Choicer who allows for ANY exception whatsoever is
NOT a true Anti-Choicer, because that is an open ADMISSION on
his part that mere reproductive-process entities aren't people.

Some of us would have supported shooting down an airplane
with innocent hostages in it on the way to hitting a building, and
so abortion for *legitimate medical reasons* is consistent with that...

Not even remotely. The planes and the buildings contained
PEOPLE, and mere reproductive-process entities in NO WAY are
people.
egg : chicken :: reproductive-process entity : person

-- unlike, of course, abortion in the case of a deformed fetus,
or in cases of rape or incest, other very common exceptions some
people are willing to allow.

Making them total **hypocrites**, if they really are stupid enough
to regard mere entities of the reproductive process to be people.
AS I already pointed out, above. And here:

Thus, the only true Anti-Choicers do number only a mere 17%.
The mealy-mouthed ones in the middle, while not being Pro-
Choicers either, are most assuredly HYPOCRITES.

***BOTTOM LINE*** -- You and your ilk LOSE. Big-time!

Incidentally, I'm glad you're looking at the bright side, and not
concluding, as your pre-election comments implied, that it is inev-
itable that the U.S. will become a dictatorship since G. W. Bush
got re-elected.

It's like T.E. Lawrence said in "Lawrence of Arabia" --
"NOTHING is written."
As entrenched as the loathsome segregationists were in the South,
fair-minded egalitarians put them down, caused their agenda to become
EXTINCT, and made their philosophy to be SO sociopathic, that even
though there were millions of those bigots... of those still remaining
today, hardly any of them have dared to admit it in public since, lest
they become the village JOKE.
The SAME fate awaits the loathsome bigots of the RRR cult and
all of its mindless agendas. I **gauarantee** it. When one strategy
(such as ousting Bush in 2004) doesn't pan out -- we'll seek other,
equally-effective, or even better, ones.
MOST of the RRR cultists are **profoundly** ignorant people, or
they couldn't possibly **be** RRR cultists... just as was the case for
MOST of the segregationists. (How people like you seem to be
exceptions to that rule, I can't even begin to comprehend. But you
ARE an exception. For most of the RRR cultists, being dumber
than a sack of hammers is a prerequisite.)
And IGNORAMUSES can easily be defeated. and defeated
very thoroughly. Just as we saw happen to the segregationists.
It is up to America's sensible egalitarians to ENSURE that the
theocratic wanna-bes, and all other forms of terrorists, LOSE.
Big-time!
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Every time a person supports bigotry in public, and presents NO
relevant FACTS to back his/her stance in behalf of a loathsome
agenda against individual liberties and human rights, that person
has -- ironically -- further **damaged** the cause he/she supports.
And every time a fair-minded and sensible egalitarian opposes
such a bigot, publicly, and **presents** relevant FACTS that are
damaging to the bigot's agenda, that TOO is an additional nail in
the coffin lid of the agenda, and a push of that casket CLOSER
to the Drain of Extinction -- its well-deserved ultimate destination.
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
(E-Mail address is valid when removing _ from it.)
.


User: "John Savard"

Title: Re: Ways that Anti-Choicers CON Themselves, #4 -- "The Tide is Turning -- Finally" 05 Dec 2004 12:45:07 PM
On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 06:44:40 GMT,
(Craig Chilton --
Countdown to 1/20/09: 1,509 days to BYE-BYE Bushie! Forever!!) wrote,
in part:

They have no need to lie, you see, because --
UNlike the Anti-Choicers -- ALL of the relevant facts are on the
PRO-Choice side of the issue.

Apparently, however, they do have a need to shout.
John Savard
http://home.ecn.ab.ca/~jsavard/index.html
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