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Religions > Bible |
| User: |
"Doug Bashford, Fresno" |
| Date: |
03 Nov 2006 02:41:34 PM |
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When Republican Christians want Forced Abortions |
On Thu, 19 Oct 2006, in
alt.christnet.evangelical,alt.bible,alt.christnet,
alt.messianic,alt.christnet.theology
Aaron said about:
Re: Republican Torture Bill: You call that TORTURE ??
On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 (Doug Bashford) wrote:
On 14 Oct 2006, sleaze cover-up defender Jim Alder said about:
Re: Seen enough Evil yet? What would it take, Jim !?
(Doug Bashford) wrote:
What would it take Jim, for you turn against them, to
conclude they were scumbags, or whatever?
How about If BushCo advocated that Americans can torture?
Aaron said:
Not very Christian, those Republicans!
No. They routinely puts power before principle.
From: The American Conservative Magazine:
"George W. Bush presents conservatives with a fundamental
challenge: Do they believe in anything other than power? Are
they serious about their rhetoric on limited,
constitutionally restrained government?"
....."Bush routinely puts power before principle."
Sept, 2004 -The American Conservative Magazine
Here is another issue about the Republicans:
I know that the Republican Congressional Child Molestation Ring is
currently big news right now, but their policy of covering up for
their own child molester reminded me of another issue that the
Republican Party has been trying to keep quiet
Barbed wire forced-abortion sweatshops.
"Made in the USA."
Yes, I've known about that for quite some time.
Worse, it's largly by Republicans who have groomed
themselves as super-Christians, and seem to be feeding on
us. (this is getting old)
In Matthew, Jesus mentions prisoner mistreatment (see below)
The issue of which I was reminded is the Pro-Abortion position of the
Republican party. I realized that most voters have no clue what is
going on in the United States Protectorate of SaiPan. I have
noticed that there was not a lot of questioning
whether or not a political party really does
support the values that we are told that they support.
Christians are not known for "questioning."
In fact, regarding politics, just the opposite.
This makes great feeding grounds for wolves.
Before, we were protected by a certain amount
of decency in politics. I have never seen such sleazyness
as recently. And its almost a proud,
arrogant sleazyness.
As a protectorate of the US, the residents of SaiPan are US citizens.
However US federal laws do not automatically apply to a US
protectorate.
SaiPan makes its own laws. Women are imported from China to work in
textile mills. Many are taken out of the mills and forced into
prostitution by the owners of these same textile mills. Female
workers who get pregnant are forced to have abortions. A woman who
refused can be shipped back to China where she will still undergo an
abortion, but till also undergo a full hysterectomy if she is allowed
to live at all. Her family will also be billed for all costs even the
bullet if the government chooses to shoot her.
Yes. Barbed wire, forced abortion sweatshops, made
attractive because these garments say
"Made in the USA."
Forced prostitution is slavery and serial rape. The average American
would not stand for this going on in the fifty states, but the
Republican dominated congress allows this in the US outside of the
fifty states.
It's not just an abstract "Republican dominated congress,"
it's a few high profile, highly powerful "religious Right"
Republicans, actively pushing for these autrocities,
including Norquist, DeLay, Reed, Abramoff, and others you've
heard of, and they use Christian ministries and phone trees
to get their way. The more you research, the more
disgusting it gets.
Bill Moyers recently did a PBS expose on this, titled
"Capitol Crimes." Good show & website at PBS.
Forced abortion of offensive to both Pro-Choice and Anti-Abortion
activists. No matter which side of the issue you happen to support,
there is no way to justify FORCED Abortion.
No way. It's more filthy than filth.
Despite the fact that the workers are in the US, the Chinese
Government hold them in terror. They are forced to sigh illegal
"contracts" with the Chinese government forbidding them from
practicing Christianity, falling in love, getting married, getting
pregnant, asking for pay increases, or participating in political
activities. So, even after physically escaping the totalitarian
Chinese government, these people live in such terror of that
government that they do not press their legal rights.
What has our Government done...?
The Clinton administration called for immigration and labor reforms as
well as calling for the freedom of the workers to follow a religion.
The Republican dominated congress chose to impeach Clinton.
The whole affair distracted the public from the fact that
the Democrats were fighting to stop forced abortions while the
Republican party was supporting the practice.
I didnt know of that battle. The issue is quite confusing
cuz it involves money and power laundering, which of course
are DESIGNED to confuse. No bumber sticker, no issue.
Once the distraction of Clinton was out of the way, Democrats in
congress tried again to stop these horrors. After all, no one would
expect any elected official to actively oppose allowing Christian
worship, and putting an end to forced abortions and virtual slavery.
The House passed the measure. Senate Republicans refused to allow the
vote. Republican Tom Delay, the majority leader, had the authority of
making out the voting schedule. He simply left the measure off the
schedule. That way there would be no easily found record of his
party's stance on the issue.
They are full of dirty tricks like that. If Clinton had done
that, it would have been headlines. These guys are so
filthy, people dont even remember the "small stuff" like
that.
Now with Dalay gone, the new Republican Majority Leader has still
refused to call for the vote.
http://www.globalexchange.org/campaigns/sweatshops/saipan/abc040100.html
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/01/04/1524256&mode=thread&tid=25
http://thinkprogress.org/2005/06/06/delays-legacy-sweatshop-labor-forced-abortion-and-sex-slavery/
in Matthew, Jesus mentions prisoner mistreatment.
(Doug Bashford) wrote:
Bush is supposed to sign the Republican torture and desecration
of habeus corpus, etc, bill today. -- the "America Now Nazi" bill. -
Any American can now be disappeared at the will of Bush and
his chosen minions. No lawyer, no hearing, you are just gone.
On 14 Oct 2006, sleaze cover-up defender Jim Alder said about:
Re: Seen enough Evil yet? What would it take, Jim !?
(Doug Bashford) wrote:
What would it take Jim, for you turn against them, to
conclude they were scumbags, or whatever?
How about If BushCo advocated that Americans can torture?
It all depends on your definition of torture. I have a real
problem with treating prisoners with kid gloves just so I won't
offend ***** liberals. Leftwing whiners seem to think
that sending them to bed without supper is torture, talking
too loudly at them is torture, putting their religious literature
on the TV is torture.
"treating prisoners with kid gloves??"
"sending them to bed without supper??"
Arch-Republican Rush Limbaugh called it
like a high school prank.
Like this?
* Urinating on detainees
* Jumping on detainee's leg (a limb already wounded
by gunfire) with such force that it could not
thereafter heal properly
* Continuing by pounding detainee's wounded leg
with collapsible metal baton
* A baton-wielding U.S. soldier forcing an Iraqi
prisoner, covered in feces, to try to walk in a
straight line while his ankles are bound.
* the sexual abuse of a 16-year-old girl by two interrogators
* Two inmates "Hung by their arms from the ceiling and beaten so
severely that, according to a report by Army investigators, their legs
would have needed to be amputated had they lived."
* made to crawl around the floor naked while U.S. soldiers rode them
like donkeys
* punched one prisoner so hard in the chest that he needed
resuscitation.
* sodomized with lightsticks and brooms
* raped and sodomizeded female and child detainees
in Matthew, Jesus mentioned prisoner mistreatment:
25:43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and
ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me
not.
25:44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when
saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked,
or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
25:45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto
you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these,
ye did it not to me.
25:46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment:
but the righteous into life eternal.
25:40
"As you do to the least among you, so you do unto me."
Google:
CNN.com - Rumsfeld: Unreleased images 'cruel and
inhuman' - May 7 ...
A military report about that abuse describes
detainees being threatened,
sodomized with a chemical light and forced into
sexually. ...
www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/05/07/iraq.abuse.main/index.html
Nature of Abu Ghraib abuse - Wikipedia, the free
encyclopedia
"The boys were sodomized with the cameras rolling, and
the worst part is ... Taking photographs of dead Iraqi
detainees and MPs posing with cheerful looks. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nature_of_Abu_Ghraib_abuse - 31k
On March 15, 2006, Salon.com published the most extensive documentation of
the abuse.[54] The source who gave the CID material to Salon magazine is
familiar with the CID investigation.
"A review of all the computer media submitted to this office revealed
a total of 1,325 images of suspected detainee abuse, 93 video files of
suspected detainee abuse, 660 images of adult pornography, 546 images of
suspected dead Iraqi detainees, 29 images of soldiers in simulated sexual
acts, 20 images of a soldier with a Swastika drawn between his eyes, 37
images of Military Working dogs being used in abuse of detainees and 125
images of questionable acts."
The Abu Ghraib files
279 photographs and 19 videos from the Army's internal investigation record
a harrowing three months of detainee abuse inside the notorious prison --
and make clear that many of those responsible have yet to be held
accountable.
http://www.salon.com/news/abu_ghraib/2006/03/14/introduction/
CNN.com - General to testify on abuse probe - May 11,
2004
"There will be a full accounting for the cruel and
disgraceful abuse of Iraqi detainees," Bush said at the
Pentagon briefing. ...
www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/05/11/iraq.abuse.main/
Taguba's 53-page report, classified "Secret" and dated
April 4, 2004, concluded that U.S. soldiers had
committed "egregious acts and grave breaches of
international law" at Abu Ghraib.[3] Taguba found that
between October and December 2003 there were numerous
instances of "sadistic, blatant, and wanton criminal
abuses" of prisoners. In violation of Army regulations,
intelligence officers asked military police to "loosen
up" inmates before questioning. The report estimates
that 60% of the prisoners at the site were "not a
threat to society" and that the screening process was
so inadequate that innocent civilians were often
detained indefinitely. Guards invented their own rules
and supervisors approved of their actions.
New Iraq Prison Abuse Images Show 'Savage Beatings'
Another detainee described how US Army Specialist
Charles Graner and other US soldiers sodomized another
detainee with a phosphorescent light. ...
www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0521-03.htm - 15k
..............big snip
--Doug
** "Fascism should more properly be called
** corporatism, since it is the merger of state
** and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
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| Title: Re: When Republican Christians want Forced Abortions |
04 Nov 2006 12:41:37 AM |
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"Doug Bashford, Fresno" <playing@home.edu> wrote in message
news:R42dnZMxyc3iNNbYnZ2dnUVZ_u2dnZ2d@pghconnect.com...
On Thu, 19 Oct 2006, in
alt.christnet.evangelical,alt.bible,alt.christnet,
alt.messianic,alt.christnet.theology
Aaron said about:
Re: Republican Torture Bill: You call that TORTURE ??
On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 (Doug Bashford) wrote:
On 14 Oct 2006, sleaze cover-up defender Jim Alder said about:
Re: Seen enough Evil yet? What would it take, Jim !?
(Doug Bashford) wrote:
What would it take Jim, for you turn against them, to
conclude they were scumbags, or whatever?
How about If BushCo advocated that Americans can torture?
Aaron said:
Not very Christian, those Republicans!
No. They routinely puts power before principle.
From: The American Conservative Magazine:
"George W. Bush presents conservatives with a fundamental
challenge: Do they believe in anything other than power? Are
they serious about their rhetoric on limited,
constitutionally restrained government?"
...."Bush routinely puts power before principle."
Sept, 2004 -The American Conservative Magazine
Here is another issue about the Republicans:
I know that the Republican Congressional Child Molestation Ring is
currently big news right now, but their policy of covering up for
their own child molester reminded me of another issue that the
Republican Party has been trying to keep quiet
Barbed wire forced-abortion sweatshops.
"Made in the USA."
Yes, I've known about that for quite some time.
Worse, it's largly by Republicans who have groomed
themselves as super-Christians, and seem to be feeding on
us. (this is getting old)
In Matthew, Jesus mentions prisoner mistreatment (see below)
The issue of which I was reminded is the Pro-Abortion position of the
Republican party. I realized that most voters have no clue what is
going on in the United States Protectorate of SaiPan. I have
noticed that there was not a lot of questioning
whether or not a political party really does
support the values that we are told that they support.
Christians are not known for "questioning."
In fact, regarding politics, just the opposite.
This makes great feeding grounds for wolves.
Before, we were protected by a certain amount
of decency in politics. I have never seen such sleazyness
as recently. And its almost a proud,
arrogant sleazyness.
As a protectorate of the US, the residents of SaiPan are US citizens.
However US federal laws do not automatically apply to a US
protectorate.
SaiPan makes its own laws. Women are imported from China to work in
textile mills. Many are taken out of the mills and forced into
prostitution by the owners of these same textile mills. Female
workers who get pregnant are forced to have abortions. A woman who
refused can be shipped back to China where she will still undergo an
abortion, but till also undergo a full hysterectomy if she is allowed
to live at all. Her family will also be billed for all costs even the
bullet if the government chooses to shoot her.
Yes. Barbed wire, forced abortion sweatshops, made
attractive because these garments say
"Made in the USA."
Forced prostitution is slavery and serial rape. The average American
would not stand for this going on in the fifty states, but the
Republican dominated congress allows this in the US outside of the
fifty states.
It's not just an abstract "Republican dominated congress,"
it's a few high profile, highly powerful "religious Right"
Republicans, actively pushing for these autrocities,
including Norquist, DeLay, Reed, Abramoff, and others you've
heard of, and they use Christian ministries and phone trees
to get their way. The more you research, the more
disgusting it gets.
Bill Moyers recently did a PBS expose on this, titled
"Capitol Crimes." Good show & website at PBS.
Forced abortion of offensive to both Pro-Choice and Anti-Abortion
activists. No matter which side of the issue you happen to support,
there is no way to justify FORCED Abortion.
No way. It's more filthy than filth.
Despite the fact that the workers are in the US, the Chinese
Government hold them in terror. They are forced to sigh illegal
"contracts" with the Chinese government forbidding them from
practicing Christianity, falling in love, getting married, getting
pregnant, asking for pay increases, or participating in political
activities. So, even after physically escaping the totalitarian
Chinese government, these people live in such terror of that
government that they do not press their legal rights.
What has our Government done...?
The Clinton administration called for immigration and labor reforms as
well as calling for the freedom of the workers to follow a religion.
The Republican dominated congress chose to impeach Clinton.
The whole affair distracted the public from the fact that
the Democrats were fighting to stop forced abortions while the
Republican party was supporting the practice.
I didnt know of that battle. The issue is quite confusing
cuz it involves money and power laundering, which of course
are DESIGNED to confuse. No bumber sticker, no issue.
Once the distraction of Clinton was out of the way, Democrats in
congress tried again to stop these horrors. After all, no one would
expect any elected official to actively oppose allowing Christian
worship, and putting an end to forced abortions and virtual slavery.
The House passed the measure. Senate Republicans refused to allow the
vote. Republican Tom Delay, the majority leader, had the authority of
making out the voting schedule. He simply left the measure off the
schedule. That way there would be no easily found record of his
party's stance on the issue.
They are full of dirty tricks like that. If Clinton had done
that, it would have been headlines. These guys are so
filthy, people dont even remember the "small stuff" like
that.
Now with Dalay gone, the new Republican Majority Leader has still
refused to call for the vote.
http://www.globalexchange.org/campaigns/sweatshops/saipan/abc040100.html
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/01/04/1524256&mode=thread&tid=25
http://thinkprogress.org/2005/06/06/delays-legacy-sweatshop-labor-forced-abortion-and-sex-slavery/
in Matthew, Jesus mentions prisoner mistreatment.
(Doug Bashford) wrote:
snipers
in Matthew, Jesus mentioned prisoner mistreatment:
25:43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and
ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me
not.
25:44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when
saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked,
or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
25:45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto
you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these,
ye did it not to me.
25:46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment:
but the righteous into life eternal.
25:40
"As you do to the least among you, so you do unto me."
snipers
It is eveident in Prophecy search that the
two horns like a lamb you see in Revelation 13. . .
Are the 2 political partties of the US.
M,
.............big snip
--Doug
** "Fascism should more properly be called
** corporatism, since it is the merger of state
** and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
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