Religions > Bible > Where the visitors on "Growing Deeper" have come from this February by now...
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"Vera Six" |
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10 Feb 2004 06:21:40 AM |
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Where the visitors on "Growing Deeper" have come from this February by now... |
17 of 17 Countries
# Hits % Visits Country
1 6441 64.09 245 Network
2 2781 27.67 280 US Commercial
3 385 3.83 12 Germany
4 189 1.88 6 Australia
5 47 0.47 5 Hong Kong
6 46 0.46 2 United Kingdom
7 29 0.29 1 New Zealand
8 28 0.28 2 Japan
9 26 0.26 2 Poland
10 24 0.24 1 Greece
11 23 0.23 1 US Educational
12 14 0.14 2 Austria
13 7 0.07 1 South Africa
14 6 0.06 1 US Military
15 2 0.02 2 Brasil
16 1 0.01 1 Italy
17 1 0.01 1 Sweden
# Hits % Visits Country
That is where the visitors on "Growing Deeper" have come
from in February by now...
Let us light some candles for all those far away from us ...
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God Bless,
Vera
You can find "Growing Deeper" here:
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* Growing Deeper *
** Where Jesus is Lord ... **
*** http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de ***
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| User: "David Matthieu P.P." |
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| Title: Re: BEWARE OF VERA 666 |
10 Feb 2004 04:11:48 PM |
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"Vera Six" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote in message
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Many readers and posters do not know who is this Usenet Character "Vera Six"
A.K.A. Vera 666 who has started to post now on alt.christnet.evangelical.
Vera Six is one of the Cult leaders who created what they consider to be a
"Church" on a Usenet Public Unmoderated Forum alt.christnet.christianlife.
The concept to turn a Christian Newsgroup into a "Church" was originally
developed and experimented by Mr. Craig or "Griz" a poster from Canada. Griz
claimed that he received a Revelation from God to take control of a
Christian Usenet Newsgroup and transform it into a Church. Two years ago
Griz selected "alt.christnet.christianlife" an unmoderated forum which has
been in service for over a decade and started an innovative Newsgroup based
Church. The indivual known as Vera 666 and other members of Griz's Newsgroup
based Church were very hostile with all posters who refused to yield to the
authority of Griz on the functioning forum. Posters were continually asked
to leave by Griz and Vera 666 on the pretense that they were the Owners, and
Moderators of "alt.christnet.christianlife". To ascertain their "ownership"
of that public unmoderated newsgroup, Griz the Cult Leader presented the
statistic that there were only 5 posts per day prior to the coming of his
"Fellowship" and ACC (alt.christnet.christianlife) was an abandoned, dying
forum. There is no need to mention that Griz's Newsgroup based Church
received a great deal of opposition on ACC, so the followers of Griz are
presently looking for another Cyberspace location for worship. Since the
first week of January, Griz and several of his devoted followers have joined
"christnet.christianlife" not to be mistaken with
"alt.christnet.christianlife". Unfornunately all the cult Leaders are
unhappy with this Newsgroup CC (christnet.christianlife), since it is a
moderated forum recruiting new followers is extremely slow.
Alt.christnet.evangelical has been elected as a new testing ground for this
strange Usenet Cult.
Posters and Readers of alt.christnet.evangelical beware!
"Frank" <roines@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:3CtTb.8550$F23.3975@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
Dear Vera and Abby,
May our Lord Jesus Christ strengthen you,
comfort you, reassure you,
and encourage you in your stand for truth!
Though ACC is good for reaching out to others,
it is too stormy for quiet sharing.
And CC though wonderful for sharing,
does not provide for rapid interaction.
Both ACC and CC certainly have their place.
But we can post as well to another alt
that would be less stormy,
at least for some time,
and give us fast interaction in a public place.
Preferably this would be a small Christian alt,
such as ACE (alt.christnet.evangelical).
If we do not respond to posts
that are made without love,
we should be able to have good interaction
on such a small Christian alt group.
Love,
Frank
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| User: "Marcia, Bethany and Me" |
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| Title: Re: Where the visitors on "Growing Deeper" have come from this February by now... |
10 Feb 2004 10:43:23 AM |
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"Vera Six" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote in message
news:c0aikk$14ju99$1@ID-223228.news.uni-berlin.de...
17 of 17 Countries
# Hits % Visits Country
1 6441 64.09 245 Network
2 2781 27.67 280 US Commercial
3 385 3.83 12 Germany
4 189 1.88 6 Australia
5 47 0.47 5 Hong Kong
6 46 0.46 2 United Kingdom
7 29 0.29 1 New Zealand
8 28 0.28 2 Japan
9 26 0.26 2 Poland
10 24 0.24 1 Greece
11 23 0.23 1 US Educational
12 14 0.14 2 Austria
13 7 0.07 1 South Africa
14 6 0.06 1 US Military
15 2 0.02 2 Brasil
16 1 0.01 1 Italy
17 1 0.01 1 Sweden
# Hits % Visits Country
That is where the visitors on "Growing Deeper" have come
from in February by now...
Let us light some candles for all those far away from us ...
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God Bless,
Vera
You can find "Growing Deeper" here:
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* Growing Deeper *
** Where Jesus is Lord ... **
*** http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de ***
Those candles you light might result in our
decorated evergreen trees catching on fire,
and then doink damage to our precious
homes (and children). Shouldn't we instead
decorate our trees and precious homes with
strings of coloured electrical lights?
-Daryl S. Kabatoff
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| User: "cub_brave" |
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| Title: Re: Where the visitors on "Growing Deeper" have come from this February by now... |
10 Feb 2004 01:19:07 PM |
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"Vera Six" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote in message news:<c0aikk$14ju99$1@ID-223228.news.uni-berlin.de>...
17 of 17 Countries
# Hits % Visits Country
1 6441 64.09 245 Network
2 2781 27.67 280 US Commercial
3 385 3.83 12 Germany
4 189 1.88 6 Australia
5 47 0.47 5 Hong Kong
6 46 0.46 2 United Kingdom
7 29 0.29 1 New Zealand
8 28 0.28 2 Japan
9 26 0.26 2 Poland
10 24 0.24 1 Greece
11 23 0.23 1 US Educational
12 14 0.14 2 Austria
13 7 0.07 1 South Africa
14 6 0.06 1 US Military
15 2 0.02 2 Brasil
16 1 0.01 1 Italy
17 1 0.01 1 Sweden
# Hits % Visits Country
That is where the visitors on "Growing Deeper" have come
from in February by now...
Let us light some candles for all those far away from us ...
() () ()
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God Bless,
Vera
You can find "Growing Deeper" here:
WHAT'S THE DEAL WITH THE CANDLES??
CATCH PHRASES WITHOUT GIVING SCRIPTURE IS THE REASON MANY PEOPLE GO CRAZY!!!!!!
SPARE ME THE FLUFF OF YOUR SAYINGS, GIVE ME SCRIPTURE!!!!!!!!!!!
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| User: "Vera Six" |
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| Title: Re: Where the visitors on "Growing Deeper" have come from this February by now... |
10 Feb 2004 02:30:01 PM |
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"cub_brave" <cub_brave@yahoo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:5e687f04.0402101119.199b2ea8@posting.google.com...
"Vera Six" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote in message news:<c0aikk$14ju99$1@ID-223228.news.uni-berlin.de>...
17 of 17 Countries
# Hits % Visits Country
1 6441 64.09 245 Network
2 2781 27.67 280 US Commercial
3 385 3.83 12 Germany
4 189 1.88 6 Australia
5 47 0.47 5 Hong Kong
6 46 0.46 2 United Kingdom
7 29 0.29 1 New Zealand
8 28 0.28 2 Japan
9 26 0.26 2 Poland
10 24 0.24 1 Greece
11 23 0.23 1 US Educational
12 14 0.14 2 Austria
13 7 0.07 1 South Africa
14 6 0.06 1 US Military
15 2 0.02 2 Brasil
16 1 0.01 1 Italy
17 1 0.01 1 Sweden
# Hits % Visits Country
That is where the visitors on "Growing Deeper" have come
from in February by now...
Let us light some candles for all those far away from us ...
() () ()
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() () ()
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() () ()
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() () ()
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God Bless,
Vera
You can find "Growing Deeper" here:
WHAT'S THE DEAL WITH THE CANDLES??
CATCH PHRASES WITHOUT GIVING SCRIPTURE IS THE REASON MANY PEOPLE GO CRAZY!!!!!!
Scripture?
Wel where is that order to go into the world and make disciples
and baptize them in the name of Jesus Christ?
Is that not worth some candles? :-)
SPARE ME THE FLUFF OF YOUR SAYINGS, GIVE ME SCRIPTURE!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey, have you got a Bible? Can you look it up for me?
What about Mark 16:15?
And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world,
and preach the gospel to every creature.
Or Matthew 28:19-20?
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations,
baptizing them in the name of the Father,
and of the Son,
and of the Holy Ghost:
Teaching them to observe all things
whatsoever I have commanded you:
and, lo, I am with you alway,
even unto the end of the world. Amen.
Amen!
:-)
Candles for atmosphere?
Yes...
Let us light some candles ... And praise the Lord! Okay?
And help me to do what God wants us to do. And help Raymond, too,
please. And all the other Christians...
() () ()
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God Bless,
Vera
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* Growing Deeper *
** Where Jesus is Lord ... **
*** http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de ***
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| User: "applegas" |
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| Title: Re: Where the visitors on "Growing Deeper" have come from this February by now... |
10 Feb 2004 03:03:21 PM |
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"Vera Six" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote in
news:c0bf4e$15ae9v$2@ID-223228.news.uni-berlin.de:
"cub_brave" <cub_brave@yahoo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:5e687f04.0402101119.199b2ea8@posting.google.com...
"Vera Six" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote in message
news:<c0aikk$14ju99$1@ID-223228.news.uni-berlin.de>...
17 of 17 Countries
# Hits % Visits Country
1 6441 64.09 245 Network
2 2781 27.67 280 US Commercial
3 385 3.83 12 Germany
4 189 1.88 6 Australia
5 47 0.47 5 Hong Kong
6 46 0.46 2 United Kingdom
7 29 0.29 1 New Zealand
8 28 0.28 2 Japan
9 26 0.26 2 Poland
10 24 0.24 1 Greece
11 23 0.23 1 US Educational
12 14 0.14 2 Austria
13 7 0.07 1 South Africa
14 6 0.06 1 US Military
15 2 0.02 2 Brasil
16 1 0.01 1 Italy
17 1 0.01 1 Sweden
# Hits % Visits Country
That is where the visitors on "Growing Deeper" have come
from in February by now...
Let us light some candles for all those far away from us ...
() () ()
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() () ()
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() () ()
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() () ()
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God Bless,
Vera
You can find "Growing Deeper" here:
WHAT'S THE DEAL WITH THE CANDLES??
CATCH PHRASES WITHOUT GIVING SCRIPTURE IS THE REASON MANY PEOPLE GO
CRAZY!!!!!!
Scripture?
Wel where is that order to go into the world and make disciples
and baptize them in the name of Jesus Christ?
Is that not worth some candles? :-)
SPARE ME THE FLUFF OF YOUR SAYINGS, GIVE ME SCRIPTURE!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey, have you got a Bible? Can you look it up for me?
What about Mark 16:15?
And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world,
and preach the gospel to every creature.
Or Matthew 28:19-20?
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations,
baptizing them in the name of the Father,
and of the Son,
and of the Holy Ghost:
Teaching them to observe all things
whatsoever I have commanded you:
and, lo, I am with you alway,
even unto the end of the world. Amen.
Amen!
:-)
Candles for atmosphere?
Yes...
Let us light some candles ... And praise the Lord! Okay?
And help me to do what God wants us to do. And help Raymond, too,
please. And all the other Christians...
() () ()
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() () ()
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() () ()
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() () ()
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God Bless,
Vera
--
* Growing Deeper *
** Where Jesus is Lord ... **
*** http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de ***
I love your candles, Vera. They are beautiful! I have asthma, so I
don't light candles at home. I miss them! So, thank you for giving
me beautiful candles to look at.
Love,
Sarah
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| User: "Vera Six" |
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| Title: Re: Where the visitors on "Growing Deeper" have come from this February by now... |
10 Feb 2004 03:12:00 PM |
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"applegas" <applegas@NO.SPAM.sunflower.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:Xns948B98C94EE4Eapplegasmywaycom@216.168.3.44...
"Vera Six" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote in
news:c0bf4e$15ae9v$2@ID-223228.news.uni-berlin.de:
"cub_brave" <cub_brave@yahoo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:5e687f04.0402101119.199b2ea8@posting.google.com...
"Vera Six" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote in message
news:<c0aikk$14ju99$1@ID-223228.news.uni-berlin.de>...
17 of 17 Countries
# Hits % Visits Country
1 6441 64.09 245 Network
2 2781 27.67 280 US Commercial
3 385 3.83 12 Germany
4 189 1.88 6 Australia
5 47 0.47 5 Hong Kong
6 46 0.46 2 United Kingdom
7 29 0.29 1 New Zealand
8 28 0.28 2 Japan
9 26 0.26 2 Poland
10 24 0.24 1 Greece
11 23 0.23 1 US Educational
12 14 0.14 2 Austria
13 7 0.07 1 South Africa
14 6 0.06 1 US Military
15 2 0.02 2 Brasil
16 1 0.01 1 Italy
17 1 0.01 1 Sweden
# Hits % Visits Country
That is where the visitors on "Growing Deeper" have come
from in February by now...
Let us light some candles for all those far away from us ...
() () ()
|| || || () () ()
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() () ()
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() () ()
|| || || () () ()
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() () ()
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God Bless,
Vera
You can find "Growing Deeper" here:
WHAT'S THE DEAL WITH THE CANDLES??
CATCH PHRASES WITHOUT GIVING SCRIPTURE IS THE REASON MANY PEOPLE GO
CRAZY!!!!!!
Scripture?
Wel where is that order to go into the world and make disciples
and baptize them in the name of Jesus Christ?
Is that not worth some candles? :-)
SPARE ME THE FLUFF OF YOUR SAYINGS, GIVE ME SCRIPTURE!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey, have you got a Bible? Can you look it up for me?
What about Mark 16:15?
And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world,
and preach the gospel to every creature.
Or Matthew 28:19-20?
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations,
baptizing them in the name of the Father,
and of the Son,
and of the Holy Ghost:
Teaching them to observe all things
whatsoever I have commanded you:
and, lo, I am with you alway,
even unto the end of the world. Amen.
Amen!
:-)
Candles for atmosphere?
Yes...
Let us light some candles ... And praise the Lord! Okay?
And help me to do what God wants us to do. And help Raymond, too,
please. And all the other Christians...
() () ()
|| || || () () ()
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() () ()
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() () ()
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() () ()
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God Bless,
Vera
--
* Growing Deeper *
** Where Jesus is Lord ... **
*** http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de ***
I love your candles, Vera. They are beautiful! I have asthma, so I
don't light candles at home. I miss them! So, thank you for giving
me beautiful candles to look at.
Love,
Sarah
You are very much welcome, Sarah!
Love,
Vera
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| User: "David Matthieu P.P." |
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| Title: Re: Vera 666 AKA Susie Jovel AKA Henrietta Schlaumayer |
10 Feb 2004 04:07:29 PM |
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Path: uni-berlin.de!c24027a9.dial.de.easynet.NET!not-for-mail
From: "Susie Jovel" <susiejovel@lycos.com>
Newsgroups: alt.christnet.evangelical
Subject: Warning
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 16:05:28 +0100
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"Susie Jovel" <susiejovel@lycos.com> wrote in message
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X-No-Archive: Yes
I am a dangerous cult leader...
;-)
There is my church:
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CC---> Where Jesus is Lord ...
http://www.acc-growling-deeper.de
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Vera 666 and Griz the cult leader have been continously calling several
Internet Service Providers requesting the account cancellation of innocent
posters of alt.christnet.christianlife. They considered this Usenet
newsgroup ACC as their private Church and they used all kind of means to
pressure, threaten and Blackmail aunwanted posters.
http://www.google.com/groups?q=+%22the+past+2+years+to+deal+%22+author:Griz&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&scoring=d&as_drrb=b&as_mind=8&as_minm=7&as_miny=1988&as_maxd=31&as_maxm=12&as_maxy=2003&selm=vk4b30p3532i6d%40corp.supernews.com&rnum=1
Posing as "Heini Schlaumayer", "Vera Six" from her account "t-online.de"
posted the message "I need your help" Via Google.com to spy on Mark and Bev
Tindall. Some how she already had the information that they live in
Maitland, Australia. "Vera Six" posing as "Henrietta
Schlaumayer" deceived the whole newsgroup soc.culture.australian to
fraudulently acquiere the address and phone number of Mark and Bev Tindall.
Please click on this Google Archives link to read the details of this other
scam of Vera 666:
http://www.google.com/groups?q=author:Heini+author:Schlaumayer&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&scoring=d&as_drrb=b&as_mind=1&as_minm=8&as_miny=1989&as_maxd=31&as_maxm=12&as_maxy=2003&selm=a7d0d0d7.0312131118.41d8aed1%40posting.google.com&rnum=1&filter=0
From: (Heini Schlaumayer)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian
Subject: Need your help
Date: 13 Dec 2003 11:18:57 -0800
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Hello group!
I need your help. I am here in Europe, and I have met a very nice
couple in my holidays this year. I would like to write a Christmas
Card to them to invite them to come in their next holidays, but
unfortunately I have lost their address. All I know is that they live
in Australia, Maitland. Their names are Mark and Bev Tindall,
Maitland, Australia.
Whoever can tell me their address or phone number please do so by
private mail.
Maybe they are in you local phone directory? It would be very easy for
you to look this up, but a long way for me here in the other end of
the world. Thank you so much for being such a big help!
Anyway, I wish you a nice Christmas time,
and a happy New Year!
Henrietta Schlaumayer
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| User: "cub_brave" |
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| Title: Re: Where the visitors on "Growing Deeper" have come from this February by now... |
11 Feb 2004 10:27:13 PM |
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applegas <applegas@NO.SPAM.sunflower.com> wrote in message news:<Xns948B98C94EE4Eapplegasmywaycom@216.168.3.44>...
"Vera Six" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote in
news:c0bf4e$15ae9v$2@ID-223228.news.uni-berlin.de:
"cub_brave" <cub_brave@yahoo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:5e687f04.0402101119.199b2ea8@posting.google.com...
"Vera Six" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote in message
news:<c0aikk$14ju99$1@ID-223228.news.uni-berlin.de>...
17 of 17 Countries
# Hits % Visits Country
1 6441 64.09 245 Network
2 2781 27.67 280 US Commercial
3 385 3.83 12 Germany
4 189 1.88 6 Australia
5 47 0.47 5 Hong Kong
6 46 0.46 2 United Kingdom
7 29 0.29 1 New Zealand
8 28 0.28 2 Japan
9 26 0.26 2 Poland
10 24 0.24 1 Greece
11 23 0.23 1 US Educational
12 14 0.14 2 Austria
13 7 0.07 1 South Africa
14 6 0.06 1 US Military
15 2 0.02 2 Brasil
16 1 0.01 1 Italy
17 1 0.01 1 Sweden
# Hits % Visits Country
That is where the visitors on "Growing Deeper" have come
from in February by now...
Let us light some candles for all those far away from us ...
() () ()
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() () ()
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God Bless,
Vera
You can find "Growing Deeper" here:
WHAT'S THE DEAL WITH THE CANDLES??
CATCH PHRASES WITHOUT GIVING SCRIPTURE IS THE REASON MANY PEOPLE GO
CRAZY!!!!!!
Scripture?
Wel where is that order to go into the world and make disciples
and baptize them in the name of Jesus Christ?
Is that not worth some candles? :-)
SPARE ME THE FLUFF OF YOUR SAYINGS, GIVE ME SCRIPTURE!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey, have you got a Bible? Can you look it up for me?
What about Mark 16:15?
And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world,
and preach the gospel to every creature.
Or Matthew 28:19-20?
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations,
baptizing them in the name of the Father,
and of the Son,
and of the Holy Ghost:
Teaching them to observe all things
whatsoever I have commanded you:
and, lo, I am with you alway,
even unto the end of the world. Amen.
Amen!
:-)
Candles for atmosphere?
Yes...
Let us light some candles ... And praise the Lord! Okay?
And help me to do what God wants us to do. And help Raymond, too,
please. And all the other Christians...
() () ()
|| || || () () ()
|| || ||
() () ()
|| || ||
() () ()
|| || || () () ()
|| || ||
() () ()
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God Bless,
Vera
--
* Growing Deeper *
** Where Jesus is Lord ... **
*** http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de ***
I love your candles, Vera. They are beautiful! I have asthma, so I
don't light candles at home. I miss them! So, thank you for giving
me beautiful candles to look at.
Love,
Sarah
HELLO,
THOSE ARE NOT CANDLES, THEY ARE PARENTHESES.
WHY NOT LOOK AT THE BIBLE INSTEAD OF CANDLES??????????????????????????
THAT'S REAL LIGHT.
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| User: "David Matthieu P.P." |
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| Title: Re: THE CULT OF VERA 666 |
10 Feb 2004 04:10:11 PM |
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"oldwetdog" <old*wet*dog@netscapeD0Tnet> wrote in message
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Vera Six wrote:
Hi people around,
<massive snip>
Warning: There is a Cult operating on Usenet!
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This is a Repost of "It Happened on ACC"
URL to google archive:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=10240pepe8t9i84%40corp.supernews.com&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain
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You may also want to see: "Subject: Examples of Ridicule"
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=10251sms41a4m5a%40corp.supernews.com&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain
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You may also want to see: "subject: Example of a Cult Gang Bang"
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=1024ll51et99la6%40corp.supernews.com&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain
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You may also want to see: "subject: The Cult and False Prophets"
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=1025tcmh820otcf%40corp.supernews.com&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain
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From: oldwetdog <old*wet*dog@netscapeD0Tnet>
Newsgroups: alt.christnet.christianlife
Subject: IT HAPPENED ON ACC !
Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2004 00:47:46 -0800
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google archive: O yes please!
It happened on ACC!
"A Cult on alt.christnet.christianlife"
"A Cult opperates on Usenet"
"A News Group Cult"
"usenet cult"
Griz and his cult had a good thing going. They were making progress in
recruiting members, and the group was growing, they were making progress
toward fulfilling the "Vision." Then problems started to mount. DMPP
would not quit. M&BT arrived and brought the situation to a critical
level. Then CULL arrived, and new members were asking questions.
A new "recruit" suddenly declined membership in the gang, and began to
question Griz. A second person demanded Griz's accountability. Then
others began questioning the "leadership." Griz could not prove himself
innocent, and every effort lead to defeat or embarrassment.
The leadership team met to discuss options. It was decided to fake the
departure of two or three members to win sympathy from a few of the
weaker/non-participating members of the Cult. This brought in some new
solders. This 'fake retreat' also gave ammunition to hurl at those who
did not approve of the Cult's methods. Still, the rebellion against Griz
and his Cult did not abate.
The leadership met and agreed to "surrender" to the demands of their
"attackers." A false surrender was arranged. Then, on January 8, 2004,
when Griz had "retreated from the field," all the gang members attacked
those who thought "they" had won freedom from Griz's dictatorship. The
most visible target was OWD. He had just posted two articles, "Control"
and "Context," which Griz could not answer. All the "Building Crew"
attacked AD HOMINEM! The Building Crew also attacked their old enemies
and reopened all the old wounds.
Then Vera began to attack acting like DMPP and M&BT: Attack, attack, but
reply to none. The Building Crew, of course, protected her: "Leave her
alone, she is hurt and angry, she'll work it out in a couple of days."
Then Vera posts, "No, I'm not angry... I'm exercising my freedom." For
most of the day, there was all this freedom, filled with rampant anger,
freedom used as an opportunity to vent anger and hate.
This Conspiracy by Griz, Vera and the "Building Crew" was two sided:
First, revenge--we will attack them just as they have attacked us, and
prove that freedom makes it impossible to manage the NG. Second, make
them beg Griz to return.
However, this "change" in (or surrender of) leadership was also
something else: "shift of focus." It took everyone's eyes off the
accusations Griz could not disprove. Still, if Griz was wrong before the
"change," then even if he is no longer Leader/moderator of ACC, Griz is
still wrong. There has been no admission of his error; there has been no
statement that he will change his conduct or method. Clearly, Griz and
the Building Crew intend to use the same method of operation "until" or
"unless" there is a statement otherwise. In fact, this is proved by
their conduct in the hours immediately after, and the days since, "the
change."
That phony surrender has been repeated. Griz has (it is claimed)
retreated to Christnet.Christianlife, yahoo.groups and Vera's private
web site. Yet he continues as leader of the "Building Crew" (who now
wishes to be known as "The Fellowship").
Various members of the Griz Cult have faked retreats from ACC, only to
return in a few days and again begin their personal attacks using the
same methods used between Dec. 30, 2003 and Jan. 31, 2004. Various
members of the Cult have assumed false names or identities, or assumed a
NIC to act as a sock puppet and reenter ACC to wage war for the Gang.
These methods of war practiced by the Cult include:
A) False accusations and Ad Hominem attack. A member attacks, then other
members of the Cult Gang Bang (aka "dog pile")the victim. While the
Soldiers attack their victim, the "lovers" begin to preach "peace,
Peace!" And, "Why can't you just let it go?" The casual observer will
notice, however, that this loving request for peace is not made to the
soldiers of the Cult, but to their victim. Of course, as long as the
victim continues to defend him/her self they are guilty of the sin of
stubbornly refusing to end the argument.
B) The use of Slander. One member of the Gang will take something from
the victim's past (this may be a confessed fault, a medical diagnosis or
any perceived weakness) which can be used wrongfully for the purpose of
Slander. Other members will then chime in and say, "Oh, I knew there was
something wrong with [name]." The victim is now left with the option of
attempting to defend their self against slander, or allow the slander to
stand. If the victim attempts to defend, the soldiers will (as above)
gang bang the victim.
C.) When asked to supply evidence for accusations, the gang will refuse
a request for proof; and indeed one member replied, "I don't have to..."
The gang then continues their attack on the victim even though they have
refused to give evidence, since the accusation is proven by the fact
that they made it and the victim denied it.
D.) In the event that one of the Gang is caught in a lie (false
accusation is a lie), and the victim of the lie submits evidence of the
lie, the gang's soldiers will attack saying, "you have judged [name]."
Or, "This is not correction, it is Condemnation." Or, "This is nothing
but "Focus Shifting" to take our eyes off of Jesus." Or, "You are
exhibiting the sin of "the spirit of invalidation of Witness." However,
in no way will the lie, as made by the false accuser, be acknowledged or
an apology offered. In fact, should the affair be forgotten, the gang
will renew their attack on their intended victim.
E.) Gang fights are always about "we" and "you" The members of the Griz
Cult, both acknowledged and secret, will always take the side of the
Cult and defend from, or attack, those who oppose the lies, false
accusations and Gang Bang tactics of the Cult members. The members of
the Cult make it clear that protection of the Cult is more important
than the Truth of God's Word, or unity among Christians.
Please note that the most recent examples of these methods of Gang
Warfare have continued unabated since about January 8, 2004, and can in
fact be shown in practice by this witness back to October 2003. Some
witnesses testify that these tactics have been used by Griz and his Cult
for about 2 years. While the members of the Cult continue to follow
Griz, any visitor, reader or lurker, or poster in
alt.christnet.christianlife, christnet.christianlife, the Cult's home
page or their "group" in yahoo.groups should expect to see this Cult
continue its methods of gang warfare.
Members of the Cult (are; or may or may not) include:
Griz (Craig)
Pablo
Cal (CBrown7281)
Mike Barefield
Ben mitts
Brian Garrison
TBC/Aarons Rod
Frank
Vera
Jeannette/Abby
Joy (JPF)
PureJoyAgain
Delightful (Faith)
Chayil
At any time, Cult members may function as follows:
Warriors
or Peace makers
The Cult, at times, may appear to be organized as follows:
(They will have their own names for their individual office or
'position' in their "on-line church" as based on the "fivefold ministry.")
Minister: Griz
Elders: Cal, Mike
Word of Knowledge: Pablo
Prophet: fervent
The blind: Frank
Recruiter: Vera
Court Jesters: Ben mitts, TBC/Aarons Rod
The members appear to communicate with each other by:
A "Chat room" on their home page,
personal E-mail,
Instant Messenger,
and/or cell phones.
Cult members consider it their right and priviledge to "lie for Jesus."
In fact, "lying for Jesus" seems to be the rite of passage.
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Those who Love Truth search for it, those who hate Truth, lie
google is your friend
--
oldwetdog
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"Sophistry is not a system of ideas, but a vicious attitude of the
mind." Jacques Maritain
http://www.xprt.net/~servitum/
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Beware of Vera Six AKA Vera 666 and her Cult!
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| User: "Martin Willett" |
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| Title: Re: Where the visitors on "Growing Deeper" have come from this February by now... |
18 Feb 2004 03:07:23 PM |
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Vera Six wrote:
17 of 17 Countries
# Hits % Visits Country
1 6441 64.09 245 Network
2 2781 27.67 280 US Commercial
3 385 3.83 12 Germany
4 189 1.88 6 Australia
5 47 0.47 5 Hong Kong
6 46 0.46 2 United Kingdom
7 29 0.29 1 New Zealand
8 28 0.28 2 Japan
9 26 0.26 2 Poland
10 24 0.24 1 Greece
11 23 0.23 1 US Educational
12 14 0.14 2 Austria
13 7 0.07 1 South Africa
14 6 0.06 1 US Military
15 2 0.02 2 Brasil
16 1 0.01 1 Italy
17 1 0.01 1 Sweden
# Hits % Visits Country
That is where the visitors on "Growing Deeper" have come
from in February by now...
Let us light some candles for all those far away from us ...
17 countries. Do you think that is impressive?
What about Tunisia, Pakistan, Czech Republic, Mauritius, Qatar,
Ukraine, Estonia, Lithuania, Monaco, China, Turkey, Croatia,
Luxembourg, Chile, India, Guatemala, Tuvalu, Fiji, Seychelles, Togo,
Bolivia, Macedonia, Thailand, Jamaica, Israel, Dominican Republic,
Samoa, Nepal, Sri Lanka, United Arab Emirates, Singapore, Malaysia,
Yugoslavia, Antigua and Barbuda, Romania or Iran? Or how about exotic
France, Ireland, Netherlands or Canada?
What would you say to 109 so far this month? And another 60 on my
all-time list. I get more hits than that in one day.
As your home page has 27 inline elements any of those "countries"
listing one visit and less than twenty odd hits didn't even hang
around for the first page to load (and could you blame them for
that?). Everything from Poland and down on that list is a record of
failure because they quit the first page before it finished loading.
As your site does appear on Google you haven't got that excuse. So why
is it doing so poorly?
Perhaps because it isn't clear whether it is a poor quality Christian
website or a parody of a poor quality Christian website. If it is
meant to be a parody it should be a lot funnier. If it isn't it should
be
overhauled and started again. It looks like it has been designed by
somebody with the artistic sensibilities of a 12 year old girl.
--
Martin Willett
http://mwillett.org/
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