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"Michael Christ" |
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03 Aug 2003 11:31:35 PM |
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Who can find God........... |
...............in a cup of coffee??
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| User: "Qolon" |
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| Title: Re: Who can find God........... |
03 Aug 2003 11:57:59 PM |
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"Count the beans Cliche Michael"
"Michael Christ" <jesus_au@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:HklXa.9739$bo1.4936@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
...............in a cup of coffee??
"Michael Christ" <jesus_au@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:yllXa.9743$bo1.990@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
New Name wrote:
Hmmm... let me ponder your request.
I see the letter M and I and C and H and A and E and L.
Does this equal 666?
That spells Michael...........doh!!!
QOLON NOTE:
"Here-hode is wisdom-sophia. Let him who has-echo understanding-nous
calculate-psephizo {to use pebbles in enumeration, that is, (genitive case)
to compute:-count; From psephos: a pebble (as worn smooth by handling), that
is, (by implication of use as a counter or ballot), a verdict (of
acquittal):
epsêphismenoi thanein condemned by vote, E.Heracl.141 or ticket (of
admission); a vote in support of the laws:-stone, voice; resolve to do
something; cf: ean psêphisêis to hen en grammasin, i.e. if you add up the
numerical values of the letters in the word hen {a name associated with
mystery knowledge}, Theol.Ar. 64} the number-arithmos {a number (as reckoned
up):-number} of the beast-therion, for it is the number-arithmos of a
man-anthropos: His number is 666-{Quaterion: chi-600 {22nd} xi-60 {14th}
sigma-6}" [Revelation 13:18]
What do you make of this: "And through his policy also he shall cause craft
to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by
peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of
princes; but he shall be broken without hand. AND THE VISION OF THE EVENING
AND MORNING WHICH WAS TOLD IS TRUE: WHEREFORE SHUT THOU UP THE VISION; FOR
IT SHALL BE FOR MANY DAYS. And I Daniel fainted, and was sick certain days;
afterward I rose up, and did the king's business; and I was astonished at
the vision, but none understood it." [Daniel 8:25-27; 9:20-10:1]
"Michael Christ" <jesus_au@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:gllXa.9742$bo1.9380@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
I haven't got a clue, Qolon.
QOLON NOTE:
122J3W1D = 6,000 years
6J = 294 years (known to King David in circa 1040 BCE)
20 x 6J = 1880CE + 2J = 1978CE + 22 {3W1D} = 6,000 years {1979CE & 2001CE
both commenced on Monday & are identical being 22 years apart}
- Qolon
"New Name" <Nathan_Chokmah@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:jverivgioals4t4k28cqnv1grbi7ecic8j@4ax.com...
And you thought I was an intellectual Michael. Good luck with Qolon!
QOLON NOTE:
Cliche Michael,
It might not seem apparent, but there is a hermeneutical connection between
the metathetic sequence within the Gospel narration as [John 1:1-13], our
conception and understanding of Language and the Theory of Number (by which
the Biblical text is scaffolded) advocated by Pythagoras who was
contemporaneous to the Hebrew's Babyonian capavity, and the argument (From
the Torah and the Prophets, therefore Merkabah kabbalistic in thought)
advanced within the text.
Pythagorean Tetragrammation of 'YHWH' as {72J} + 3(3²+1)/2 as 15 Units
{2W1D} = {72J2W1D} - 457 BCE)
#magic sum #3 = 457BCE, 438BCE, 407BCE, #6 = 361BCE, 297BCE, 212BCE, #9 =
103BCE, #10 = 33CE {70 weeks cryptic messianic prophecy} ... #17 = 1993CE
Nebuchadnezzar carried away some of the Temple vessels and a group of
hostages among whom were Daniel {God is my judge} and his three friends were
taught the Chaldean {demons; robbers} literary Art as mathematai or
numerological and taxonomical forms of the astrological based Mysticism:
"Gifted-sakal in all-kol wisdom-chokma {ie. a Merkabah reference to the 2nd
Serifot}, possessing-yada' {ie. to know} knowledge-da'ath {ie. A Kabbalistic
reference} and quick-biyn {ie. bina a Merkabah reference to the 3rd Serifot
of understanding} to understand-madda' {ie. intelligence or
consciousness:--knowledge, science, thought}, who had the ability-koach {to
be firm; vigor, literally (force, in a good or a bad sense) or figuratively
(capacity, means, produce)} to serve-'amad {to stand or perhaps employed to
withstand} in the king's-melek palace-heykal, and whom they might
teach-lamad {#30 as 12th character of the Hebrew taxonomy; properly to goad,
that is, (by implication) to teach (the rod being an Oriental incentive)},
the language-sepher {books} and literature-lashon {tongue; used literally
(as the instrument of licking, eating, or speech), and figuratively (speech,
an ingot, a fork of flame, a cove of water):-- + babbler, bay, + evil
speaker, language, talker, tongue, wedge} of the Chaldeans-kasday {magi,
professional astrologers; theives, robbers
<http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/telos/particular.html#TELETAI>}." [Daniel
1:4]
- Qolon
"Michael Christ" <jesus_au@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:E_hXa.8268$bo1.719@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
Good to see that you are paying attention, Qolon.
You seem to be having a major problem with context though.
And that is not including your bulk email patterns.
"New Name" <Nathan_Chokmah@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:dv7rivg6sk2aah5sjbnct873ddv0dmahn6@4ax.com...
Vera, this is Michael's confession to me via email:
"And yet if I say to you that I am Jesus"
"Michael Christ" <jesus_au@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:ElhXa.8213$bo1.4226@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
New Name wrote:
Jesus is not God, nor is God's name Jesus Christ.
God cannot die.
Indeed, death had no hold on His Spirit, the Father's Spirit.
"Michael Christ" <jesus_au@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:tnhXa.8215$bo1.718@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
You should rejoice Qolon.
QOLON NOTE:
Cliche Michael,
You asked, "How can a man sin if sin has been removed from the equation?"
Isn't there such a notion as the sin of presumption Michael?
Jesus of Nazareth lived the law, that is true--As the Word made flesh!
1) Nature contains Nature (FOCUS)
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was
God."
2) Nature rejoices in its Nature (EQUITY)
"He was in the beginning with God."
3) Nature surmounts Nature (RATIO)
"All things were made through him, and without him nothing was made that was
made."
1 + 2 + 3 = Supernal Triad which acts upon TIME {ie. Kepler's 3 Cosmological
Laws}
4) Nature amended in its Nature [Aleph {1+30+80 = 111 /#6}]
- Nature contains Nature (#1 - 22/7 as 3W1D - Adam)
"In him was life, and the life was the light of men."
5) Act of Nature [Beth {2+10+400 = 412 /#6}]
- Nature rejoices in its Nature (#2 - 26J5W - Noah)
"And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend
it."
6) Form of Nature [Gimel {3+40+30 = 73 /#3}]
- Nature surmounts Nature (#3 - 40J4W as Everlasting Covenant [Hebrews
6:13-20])
"There was a man sent from God, whose name was John {Grace or mercy of the
Lord}."
7) Engendering Nature [Daleth {4+30+400 = 434 /#7}]
- Nature amended in its Nature (#4 - 50J [Torah @ Sinai])
"This man came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all through
him might believe."
8) Transforming Nature [He {5+1 = 6 /#6}]
- Act of Nature (#5 - Pythagorean Tetragrammation of 'YHWH' as {72J} +
3(3²+1)/2 as 15 Units {2W1D} = {72J2W1D} - 457 BCE)
#magic sum #3 = 457BCE, 438BCE, 407BCE, #6 = 361BCE, 297BCE, 212BCE, #9 =
103BCE, #10 = 33CE {70 weeks cryptic messianic prophecy} ... #17 = 1993CE
"He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light."
9) Autonomous Nature [Waw {6+6 = 12 /#5}]
- Form of Nature (#6 - cryptic Messianic prophecy in midst of 69th
week {72J71W5D} - 30CE being that 10J = 490 years = 33 CE)
"That was the true Light which gives light to every man who comes into the
world."
The Forma Corporis as a mathematical, esoteric/transcendental and Torah
based theological Kabbalistic chronological conception:
Telos (6,000) = Arch (0) + c² and n(n²+1)/2 = {ie.
#magic sum #3 = 15CE, 34CE, 65CE, #6 = 111CE, 175CE, 260CE, #9 = 369CE ...
#15 = 1695CE, TELOS = 13 September, 2001CE, #16 = 2056CE
Principles of democratic autonomy are sustained by a 369 day
chronological/mathematical matrix as the Merkabah (ie. Kabbalistic) mystical
(transcendent/metaphysical) foundation for a perennial solar/lunar {ie.
9(9²+1)/2 (369) - 3(3²+1)/2 (15) = 354 lunar cycle} philosophy uniting
reason and faith and the mechanism for {#11, #2, #37 - Non-Deeming Action/
Administraton of Government}.
10) Totality of Nature [Zayin {7+10+50 = 67 /#4}]
- Engendering Nature (#7 - Telos Topical year/day solar eclipse Monday
25 December, 2000 + 6 days = 122J3W1D : 6,000 / 666 = 9.009 ... (6
remaining)) ... 9(9² +1)/2 = 369 {52W5D or 9 x 41} days with center #41 Mem
= Thursday, 13 September, 2001 [#41 #41/(#41 - Playing with Reversal; cf:
vKabbalah JavaScript Class for Microsoft Internet Explorer Vsn 6.0
<http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/telos/kabbalah/vkabbalah.html?9/13/2001>)
"He was in the world, and the world was made through him, and the world did
not know him."
Hebrew Calendar: {4 x 91 [30+30+31] Quarters (364 days : 1092 / 3 = 364
days)} + 5 CHAD? 354 day lunar year x 3 years = 1062 + 30 day month = 1092
days : 1092 / 369 = 2 x 369 + 354 as typical lunar year & 9(9² +1)/2
{52W5D} - 3(3² +1)/2 {2W1D} = 354 as typical lunar year; For example:
{385 days} 29 Sept, 2000
{353 days} 17 Sept, 2001 +
{354 days} 6 Sept, 2002 +
{385 days} 26 Sept, 2003 = 1092 days]{v's Jubilee 2000 myth as fraudulent
claim to Christianity by the Roman Catholic Church et al}]
- Qolon
<http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/telos/kabbalah/patent.html#AXIOM4>
"He came to his own, and his own did not receive him. But as many as
received him, to them he gave the right to become children of God, even to
those who believe in his name: Who were born, not of blood, nor of the will
of man, but of God." [© 1982 Nelson Thomas, New King James Bible, Gospel of
John 1:1-13]
"Kabbalah explains that the physical finite world is a mere 'shadow' of the
higher reality. The analogy used in the mystical literature describes the
Creator's presence 'down here' as being channelled through the Divine Name
rather than through the Divine 'Body'. That this world is an ephemeral
projection of the higher worlds of Atzilut, Beriya and Yetzira.
Yet the world functions with exactitude and system - as if the Creator were
fully cognisant and involved with the processes of life. The 'mind of G-d'
seems very much focused and involved in this lower, coarse and limited
material realm of Assiya. At the same time our world is described as a three
dimensional projection of higher truths - an illusion. The seeming
contradiction is resolved through the use of the analogy of the 'name' and
'body' of G-d's presence. The 'body' is represented by the teaching that
what you and I do goes to the core of creation. The 'name' is reflected in
the ambivalent consciousness we experience in this lowest realm, with the
capacity to choose between choices that life presents challengingly for us."
[Portions courtesy: Sunday 3 August, 2003 -- © Copyright 2003 RABBI LAIBL
WOLF - WEEKLY MASTERY/MEDITATION <http://www.laiblwolf.com>]
- Qolon
"Michael Christ" <jesus_au@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:I4hXa.8194$bo1.6871@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
When a person says that they are a sinner the do not believe in the Father
and the Lord Jesus Christ. They do not believe that the sacrifice on the
cross was sufficient to cover all sin, the sin of the whole world. How can
a man sin if sin has been removed from the equation? There is none. What
is sin but that which breaks the law? The law is fulfilled. Jesus
fulfilled the law, so that which was raised up to show what sin was has been
removed/fulfilled.
What they _think_ is sin is actually guilt, the guilt in their heart that
they have not loved God with all their heart, soul and mind by offering up
their bodies as a living sacrifice...losing their lives.
On judgement day you will not be judged for anything you have done,
regardless of what you have done because Jesus paid the debt. Did He not???
You will be judged by that which you haven't done.
So what do you think remains? What must you do? And sin has nothing to do
with it.
[snipped for context]
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| User: "New Name" |
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| Title: Re: Who can find God........... |
04 Aug 2003 12:01:29 AM |
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On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 04:57:59 GMT, "Qolon" <telos@bigpond.com> wrote:
"Count the beans Cliche Michael"
"Michael Christ" <jesus_au@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:HklXa.9739$bo1.4936@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
..............in a cup of coffee??
"Michael Christ" <jesus_au@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:yllXa.9743$bo1.990@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
New Name wrote:
Hmmm... let me ponder your request.
I see the letter M and I and C and H and A and E and L.
Does this equal 666?
That spells Michael...........doh!!!
QOLON NOTE:
"Here-hode is wisdom-sophia. Let him who has-echo understanding-nous
calculate-psephizo {to use pebbles in enumeration, that is, (genitive case)
to compute:-count; From psephos: a pebble (as worn smooth by handling), that
is, (by implication of use as a counter or ballot), a verdict (of
acquittal):
Did not I warn you Michael. Michael is the name of the beast. :-)
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| User: "Qolon" |
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| Title: Re: Who can find God........... |
03 Aug 2003 11:50:48 PM |
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"Michael Christ" <jesus_au@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:HklXa.9739$bo1.4936@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
...............in a cup of coffee??
QOLON NOTE:
What do you make of this: "And through his policy also he shall cause craft
to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by
peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of
princes; but he shall be broken without hand. AND THE VISION OF THE EVENING
AND MORNING WHICH WAS TOLD IS TRUE: WHEREFORE SHUT THOU UP THE VISION; FOR
IT SHALL BE FOR MANY DAYS. And I Daniel fainted, and was sick certain days;
afterward I rose up, and did the king's business; and I was astonished at
the vision, but none understood it." [Daniel 8:25-27; 9:20-10:1]
"Michael Christ" <jesus_au@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:gllXa.9742$bo1.9380@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
I haven't got a clue, Qolon.
QOLON NOTE:
122J3W1D = 6,000 years
6J = 294 years (known to King David in circa 1040 BCE)
20 x 6J = 1880CE + 2J = 1978CE + 22 {3W1D} = 6,000 years {1979CE & 2001CE
both commenced on Monday & are identical being 22 years apart}
- Qolon
"New Name" <Nathan_Chokmah@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:jverivgioals4t4k28cqnv1grbi7ecic8j@4ax.com...
And you thought I was an intellectual Michael. Good luck with Qolon!
QOLON NOTE:
Cliche Michael,
It might not seem apparent, but there is a hermeneutical connection between
the metathetic sequence within the Gospel narration as [John 1:1-13], our
conception and understanding of Language and the Theory of Number (by which
the Biblical text is scaffolded) advocated by Pythagoras who was
contemporaneous to the Hebrew's Babyonian capavity, and the argument (From
the Torah and the Prophets, therefore Merkabah kabbalistic in thought)
advanced within the text.
Pythagorean Tetragrammation of 'YHWH' as {72J} + 3(3²+1)/2 as 15 Units
{2W1D} = {72J2W1D} - 457 BCE)
#magic sum #3 = 457BCE, 438BCE, 407BCE, #6 = 361BCE, 297BCE, 212BCE, #9 =
103BCE, #10 = 33CE {70 weeks cryptic messianic prophecy} ... #17 = 1993CE
Nebuchadnezzar carried away some of the Temple vessels and a group of
hostages among whom were Daniel {God is my judge} and his three friends were
taught the Chaldean {demons; robbers} literary Art as mathematai or
numerological and taxonomical forms of the astrological based Mysticism:
"Gifted-sakal in all-kol wisdom-chokma {ie. a Merkabah reference to the 2nd
Serifot}, possessing-yada' {ie. to know} knowledge-da'ath {ie. A Kabbalistic
reference} and quick-biyn {ie. bina a Merkabah reference to the 3rd Serifot
of understanding} to understand-madda' {ie. intelligence or
consciousness:--knowledge, science, thought}, who had the ability-koach {to
be firm; vigor, literally (force, in a good or a bad sense) or figuratively
(capacity, means, produce)} to serve-'amad {to stand or perhaps employed to
withstand} in the king's-melek palace-heykal, and whom they might
teach-lamad {#30 as 12th character of the Hebrew taxonomy; properly to goad,
that is, (by implication) to teach (the rod being an Oriental incentive)},
the language-sepher {books} and literature-lashon {tongue; used literally
(as the instrument of licking, eating, or speech), and figuratively (speech,
an ingot, a fork of flame, a cove of water):-- + babbler, bay, + evil
speaker, language, talker, tongue, wedge} of the Chaldeans-kasday {magi,
professional astrologers; theives, robbers
<http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/telos/particular.html#TELETAI>}." [Daniel
1:4]
- Qolon
"Michael Christ" <jesus_au@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:E_hXa.8268$bo1.719@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
Good to see that you are paying attention, Qolon.
You seem to be having a major problem with context though.
And that is not including your bulk email patterns.
"New Name" <Nathan_Chokmah@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:dv7rivg6sk2aah5sjbnct873ddv0dmahn6@4ax.com...
Vera, this is Michael's confession to me via email:
"And yet if I say to you that I am Jesus"
"Michael Christ" <jesus_au@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:ElhXa.8213$bo1.4226@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
New Name wrote:
Jesus is not God, nor is God's name Jesus Christ.
God cannot die.
Indeed, death had no hold on His Spirit, the Father's Spirit.
"Michael Christ" <jesus_au@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:tnhXa.8215$bo1.718@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
You should rejoice Qolon.
QOLON NOTE:
Cliche Michael,
You asked, "How can a man sin if sin has been removed from the equation?"
Isn't there such a notion as the sin of presumption Michael?
Jesus of Nazareth lived the law, that is true--As the Word made flesh!
1) Nature contains Nature (FOCUS)
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was
God."
2) Nature rejoices in its Nature (EQUITY)
"He was in the beginning with God."
3) Nature surmounts Nature (RATIO)
"All things were made through him, and without him nothing was made that was
made."
1 + 2 + 3 = Supernal Triad which acts upon TIME {ie. Kepler's 3 Cosmological
Laws}
4) Nature amended in its Nature [Aleph {1+30+80 = 111 /#6}]
- Nature contains Nature (#1 - 22/7 as 3W1D - Adam)
"In him was life, and the life was the light of men."
5) Act of Nature [Beth {2+10+400 = 412 /#6}]
- Nature rejoices in its Nature (#2 - 26J5W - Noah)
"And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend
it."
6) Form of Nature [Gimel {3+40+30 = 73 /#3}]
- Nature surmounts Nature (#3 - 40J4W as Everlasting Covenant [Hebrews
6:13-20])
"There was a man sent from God, whose name was John {Grace or mercy of the
Lord}."
7) Engendering Nature [Daleth {4+30+400 = 434 /#7}]
- Nature amended in its Nature (#4 - 50J [Torah @ Sinai])
"This man came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all through
him might believe."
8) Transforming Nature [He {5+1 = 6 /#6}]
- Act of Nature (#5 - Pythagorean Tetragrammation of 'YHWH' as {72J} +
3(3²+1)/2 as 15 Units {2W1D} = {72J2W1D} - 457 BCE)
#magic sum #3 = 457BCE, 438BCE, 407BCE, #6 = 361BCE, 297BCE, 212BCE, #9 =
103BCE, #10 = 33CE {70 weeks cryptic messianic prophecy} ... #17 = 1993CE
"He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light."
9) Autonomous Nature [Waw {6+6 = 12 /#5}]
- Form of Nature (#6 - cryptic Messianic prophecy in midst of 69th
week {72J71W5D} - 30CE being that 10J = 490 years = 33 CE)
"That was the true Light which gives light to every man who comes into the
world."
The Forma Corporis as a mathematical, esoteric/transcendental and Torah
based theological Kabbalistic chronological conception:
Telos (6,000) = Arch (0) + c² and n(n²+1)/2 = {ie.
#magic sum #3 = 15CE, 34CE, 65CE, #6 = 111CE, 175CE, 260CE, #9 = 369CE ...
#15 = 1695CE, TELOS = 13 September, 2001CE, #16 = 2056CE
Principles of democratic autonomy are sustained by a 369 day
chronological/mathematical matrix as the Merkabah (ie. Kabbalistic) mystical
(transcendent/metaphysical) foundation for a perennial solar/lunar {ie.
9(9²+1)/2 (369) - 3(3²+1)/2 (15) = 354 lunar cycle} philosophy uniting
reason and faith and the mechanism for {#11, #2, #37 - Non-Deeming Action/
Administraton of Government}.
10) Totality of Nature [Zayin {7+10+50 = 67 /#4}]
- Engendering Nature (#7 - Telos Topical year/day solar eclipse Monday
25 December, 2000 + 6 days = 122J3W1D : 6,000 / 666 = 9.009 ... (6
remaining)) ... 9(9² +1)/2 = 369 {52W5D or 9 x 41} days with center #41 Mem
= Thursday, 13 September, 2001 [#41 #41/(#41 - Playing with Reversal; cf:
vKabbalah JavaScript Class for Microsoft Internet Explorer Vsn 6.0
<http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/telos/kabbalah/vkabbalah.html?9/13/2001>)
"He was in the world, and the world was made through him, and the world did
not know him."
Hebrew Calendar: {4 x 91 [30+30+31] Quarters (364 days : 1092 / 3 = 364
days)} + 5 CHAD? 354 day lunar year x 3 years = 1062 + 30 day month = 1092
days : 1092 / 369 = 2 x 369 + 354 as typical lunar year & 9(9² +1)/2
{52W5D} - 3(3² +1)/2 {2W1D} = 354 as typical lunar year; For example:
{385 days} 29 Sept, 2000
{353 days} 17 Sept, 2001 +
{354 days} 6 Sept, 2002 +
{385 days} 26 Sept, 2003 = 1092 days]{v's Jubilee 2000 myth as fraudulent
claim to Christianity by the Roman Catholic Church et al}]
- Qolon
<http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/telos/kabbalah/patent.html#AXIOM4>
"He came to his own, and his own did not receive him. But as many as
received him, to them he gave the right to become children of God, even to
those who believe in his name: Who were born, not of blood, nor of the will
of man, but of God." [© 1982 Nelson Thomas, New King James Bible, Gospel of
John 1:1-13]
"Kabbalah explains that the physical finite world is a mere 'shadow' of the
higher reality. The analogy used in the mystical literature describes the
Creator's presence 'down here' as being channelled through the Divine Name
rather than through the Divine 'Body'. That this world is an ephemeral
projection of the higher worlds of Atzilut, Beriya and Yetzira.
Yet the world functions with exactitude and system - as if the Creator were
fully cognisant and involved with the processes of life. The 'mind of G-d'
seems very much focused and involved in this lower, coarse and limited
material realm of Assiya. At the same time our world is described as a three
dimensional projection of higher truths - an illusion. The seeming
contradiction is resolved through the use of the analogy of the 'name' and
'body' of G-d's presence. The 'body' is represented by the teaching that
what you and I do goes to the core of creation. The 'name' is reflected in
the ambivalent consciousness we experience in this lowest realm, with the
capacity to choose between choices that life presents challengingly for us."
[Portions courtesy: Sunday 3 August, 2003 -- © Copyright 2003 RABBI LAIBL
WOLF - WEEKLY MASTERY/MEDITATION <http://www.laiblwolf.com>]
- Qolon
"Michael Christ" <jesus_au@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:I4hXa.8194$bo1.6871@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
When a person says that they are a sinner the do not believe in the Father
and the Lord Jesus Christ. They do not believe that the sacrifice on the
cross was sufficient to cover all sin, the sin of the whole world. How can
a man sin if sin has been removed from the equation? There is none. What
is sin but that which breaks the law? The law is fulfilled. Jesus
fulfilled the law, so that which was raised up to show what sin was has been
removed/fulfilled.
What they _think_ is sin is actually guilt, the guilt in their heart that
they have not loved God with all their heart, soul and mind by offering up
their bodies as a living sacrifice...losing their lives.
On judgement day you will not be judged for anything you have done,
regardless of what you have done because Jesus paid the debt. Did He not???
You will be judged by that which you haven't done.
So what do you think remains? What must you do? And sin has nothing to do
with it.
[snipped for context]
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03 Aug 2003 11:58:53 PM |
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On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 04:50:48 GMT, "Qolon" <telos@bigpond.com> wrote:
"Michael Christ" <jesus_au@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:HklXa.9739$bo1.4936@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
..............in a cup of coffee??
QOLON NOTE:
What do you make of this: "And through his policy also he shall cause craft
to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by
peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of
princes; but he shall be broken without hand. AND THE VISION OF THE EVENING
AND MORNING WHICH WAS TOLD IS TRUE: WHEREFORE SHUT THOU UP THE VISION; FOR
IT SHALL BE FOR MANY DAYS. And I Daniel fainted, and was sick certain days;
afterward I rose up, and did the king's business; and I was astonished at
the vision, but none understood it." [Daniel 8:25-27; 9:20-10:1]
Michael is in denial. Much like an alcoholic. Compulsive liar.
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| User: "Michael Christ" |
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04 Aug 2003 12:07:54 AM |
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Michael Christ wrote:
..............in a cup of coffee??
sensible2me:
I can
Come on then, Marlene, show the 'men'.
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The Holy Spirit has come.
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My Sons are born of Me. They are My Spirit.
In them is no darkness at all.
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Only One Spirit loves...and loves indeed.
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| User: "sensible2me" |
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04 Aug 2003 12:23:07 AM |
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"Michael Christ" <jesus_au@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:KSlXa.9790$bo1.2703@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
Michael Christ wrote:
..............in a cup of coffee??
sensible2me:
I can
Come on then, Marlene, show the 'men'.
sensible2me"
You have a woman, you show the men.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The Holy Spirit has come.
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My Sons are born of Me. They are My Spirit.
In them is no darkness at all.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Only One Spirit loves...and loves indeed.
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| User: "sensible2me" |
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| Title: Re: Who can find God........... |
04 Aug 2003 12:35:46 AM |
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"New Name" <Nathan_Chokmah@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:oerriv8ieft8gsrp2tfofqj3c2878ducg3@4ax.com...
On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 00:23:07 -0500, "sensible2me"
<mcapps@mail.advertisnet.com> wrote:
"Michael Christ" <jesus_au@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:KSlXa.9790$bo1.2703@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
Michael Christ wrote:
..............in a cup of coffee??
sensible2me:
I can
Come on then, Marlene, show the 'men'.
sensible2me"
You have a woman, you show the men.
I dunno... if Michael is a full time reprobate.
sensible2me:
He was born with the principle. WE all just have to learn how to apply it.
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| User: "New Name" |
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04 Aug 2003 12:38:36 AM |
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On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 00:35:46 -0500, "sensible2me"
<mcapps@mail.advertisnet.com> wrote:
"New Name" <Nathan_Chokmah@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:oerriv8ieft8gsrp2tfofqj3c2878ducg3@4ax.com...
On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 00:23:07 -0500, "sensible2me"
<mcapps@mail.advertisnet.com> wrote:
"Michael Christ" <jesus_au@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:KSlXa.9790$bo1.2703@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
Michael Christ wrote:
..............in a cup of coffee??
sensible2me:
I can
Come on then, Marlene, show the 'men'.
sensible2me"
You have a woman, you show the men.
I dunno... if Michael is a full time reprobate.
sensible2me:
He was born with the principle. WE all just have to learn how to apply it.
Ooops... I guess I was at the Train station when the Ark arrived.
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| User: "sensible2me" |
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| Title: Re: Who can find God........... |
04 Aug 2003 01:19:40 AM |
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"New Name" <Nathan_Chokmah@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:m7srivc50hf634nbftun9luj1vo61inp51@4ax.com...
On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 00:35:46 -0500, "sensible2me"
<mcapps@mail.advertisnet.com> wrote:
"New Name" <Nathan_Chokmah@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:oerriv8ieft8gsrp2tfofqj3c2878ducg3@4ax.com...
On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 00:23:07 -0500, "sensible2me"
<mcapps@mail.advertisnet.com> wrote:
"Michael Christ" <jesus_au@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:KSlXa.9790$bo1.2703@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
Michael Christ wrote:
..............in a cup of coffee??
sensible2me:
I can
Come on then, Marlene, show the 'men'.
sensible2me"
You have a woman, you show the men.
I dunno... if Michael is a full time reprobate.
sensible2me:
He was born with the principle. WE all just have to learn how to apply
it.
Ooops... I guess I was at the Train station when the Ark arrived.
sensible2me:
All aboard two by two.
Male & female animalistic traits.
Likeness and images all aboard.
Don't have to be a butt, or chew on my own cud. I can ram my way through
life with horns but I'll sacrifice that and settle for being a lamb..
Don't want to be a bull-y but I can graze on green pastures and let God
produce the milk to feed me.
Till the cows come home I'll graze in greener pastures.
Adam named them up front. .
I could crow as a rooster, I'll settle to be like a hen.
I could be like an eagle, owl and even a... sparrow.
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| User: "New Name" |
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06 Aug 2003 01:55:20 AM |
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On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 01:19:40 -0500, "sensible2me"
<mcapps@mail.advertisnet.com> wrote:
"New Name" <Nathan_Chokmah@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:m7srivc50hf634nbftun9luj1vo61inp51@4ax.com...
On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 00:35:46 -0500, "sensible2me"
<mcapps@mail.advertisnet.com> wrote:
"New Name" <Nathan_Chokmah@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:oerriv8ieft8gsrp2tfofqj3c2878ducg3@4ax.com...
On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 00:23:07 -0500, "sensible2me"
<mcapps@mail.advertisnet.com> wrote:
"Michael Christ" <jesus_au@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:KSlXa.9790$bo1.2703@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
Michael Christ wrote:
..............in a cup of coffee??
sensible2me:
I can
Come on then, Marlene, show the 'men'.
sensible2me"
You have a woman, you show the men.
I dunno... if Michael is a full time reprobate.
sensible2me:
He was born with the principle. WE all just have to learn how to apply
it.
Ooops... I guess I was at the Train station when the Ark arrived.
sensible2me:
All aboard two by two.
Male & female animalistic traits.
Likeness and images all aboard.
Don't have to be a butt, or chew on my own cud. I can ram my way through
life with horns but I'll sacrifice that and settle for being a lamb..
Don't want to be a bull-y but I can graze on green pastures and let God
produce the milk to feed me.
Till the cows come home I'll graze in greener pastures.
Adam named them up front. .
I could crow as a rooster, I'll settle to be like a hen.
I could be like an eagle, owl and even a... sparrow.
I love you sense of humour. No doubt you did get it from Michael.
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| User: "Michael Christ" |
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| Title: Re: Who can find God........... |
04 Aug 2003 12:39:32 AM |
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Michael Christ wrote:
..............in a cup of coffee??
sensible2me:
I can
Michael Christ wrote:
Come on then, Marlene, show the 'men'.
sensible2me"
You have a woman, you show the men.
sensible2me"
You have a woman, you show the men.
Very well.
I picked up my cup, tipped it slightly and saw that the coffee was
perfectly level, in perfect balance. On a round earth spinning in
space there in stillness of my hand was a perfect level, a perfect
balance.
How perfect is His love is. Not slightly this nor slightly that but
straight and true as a far as eternity.
O glorious Lord, how is it that you be as you are, how perfect
you are in all the Earth. How can a heart turn away from you...
stuffed if I know [you'll have to forgive me reader, I got a little
poetically emotional].
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The Holy Spirit has come.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
My Sons are born of Me. They are My Spirit.
In them is no darkness at all.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Only One Spirit loves...and loves indeed.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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| User: "sensible2me" |
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| Title: Re: Who can find God........... |
04 Aug 2003 12:48:41 AM |
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"Michael Christ" <jesus_au@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:okmXa.9820$bo1.2371@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
Michael Christ wrote:
..............in a cup of coffee??
sensible2me:
I can
Michael Christ wrote:
Come on then, Marlene, show the 'men'.
sensible2me"
You have a woman, you show the men.
sensible2me"
You have a woman, you show the men.
Very well.
I picked up my cup, tipped it slightly and saw that the coffee was
perfectly level, in perfect balance. On a round earth spinning in
space there in stillness of my hand was a perfect level, a perfect
balance.
How perfect is His love is. Not slightly this nor slightly that but
straight and true as a far as eternity.
O glorious Lord, how is it that you be as you are, how perfect
you are in all the Earth. How can a heart turn away from you...
stuffed if I know [you'll have to forgive me reader, I got a little
poetically emotional].
sensible2me:
That's a cupful. I believe I'll have one if you don't mind.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The Holy Spirit has come.
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My Sons are born of Me. They are My Spirit.
In them is no darkness at all.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Only One Spirit loves...and loves indeed.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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| User: "New Name" |
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| Title: Re: Who can find God........... |
06 Aug 2003 01:57:16 AM |
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On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 05:39:32 GMT, "Michael Christ"
<jesus_au@bigpond.com> wrote:
Michael Christ wrote:
..............in a cup of coffee??
sensible2me:
I can
Michael Christ wrote:
Come on then, Marlene, show the 'men'.
sensible2me"
You have a woman, you show the men.
sensible2me"
You have a woman, you show the men.
Very well.
I picked up my cup, tipped it slightly and saw that the coffee was
perfectly level, in perfect balance. On a round earth spinning in
space there in stillness of my hand was a perfect level, a perfect
balance.
Therein lays the problem. To much caffeine.
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| User: "New Name" |
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| Title: Re: Who can find God........... |
04 Aug 2003 12:28:00 AM |
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On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 00:23:07 -0500, "sensible2me"
<mcapps@mail.advertisnet.com> wrote:
"Michael Christ" <jesus_au@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:KSlXa.9790$bo1.2703@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
Michael Christ wrote:
..............in a cup of coffee??
sensible2me:
I can
Come on then, Marlene, show the 'men'.
sensible2me"
You have a woman, you show the men.
Are you looking for a man?
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| User: "sensible2me" |
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| Title: Re: Who can find God........... |
04 Aug 2003 12:43:18 AM |
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"New Name" <Nathan_Chokmah@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:glrriv0mgfqfd2lollar8vigqibgnvb9js@4ax.com...
On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 00:23:07 -0500, "sensible2me"
<mcapps@mail.advertisnet.com> wrote:
"Michael Christ" <jesus_au@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:KSlXa.9790$bo1.2703@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
Michael Christ wrote:
..............in a cup of coffee??
sensible2me:
I can
Come on then, Marlene, show the 'men'.
sensible2me"
You have a woman, you show the men.
Are you looking for a man?
sensible2me:
Silence............. is the Best man
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| User: "New Name" |
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| Title: Re: Who can find God........... |
04 Aug 2003 12:13:23 AM |
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On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 05:07:54 GMT, "Michael Christ"
<jesus_au@bigpond.com> wrote:
Michael Christ wrote:
..............in a cup of coffee??
sensible2me:
I can
Come on then, Marlene, show the 'men'.
For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given
in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
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| User: "Michael Christ" |
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| Title: Re: Who can find God........... |
04 Aug 2003 12:28:43 AM |
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New Name wrote:
For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given
in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
If there was no 'as' it would suit you.
You be an angel if you like, I know I am a Son.
It is time for you to put your Bible down and look.............all around.
Can you find God in a cup of coffee?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The Holy Spirit has come.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
My Sons are born of Me. They are My Spirit.
In them is no darkness at all.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Only One Spirit loves...and loves indeed.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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| User: "New Name" |
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| Title: Re: Who can find God........... |
04 Aug 2003 12:35:37 AM |
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On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 05:28:43 GMT, "Michael Christ"
<jesus_au@bigpond.com> wrote:
New Name wrote:
For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given
in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
If there was no 'as' it would suit you.
"If" is your word.
You be an angel if you like, I know I am a Son.
I am not an Angel, neither are you a Son.
It is time for you to put your Bible down and look.............all around.
Did that already.
Can you find God in a cup of coffee?
In your coffee, all I see is darkness.
Perhaps you need to add cream to your illusion?
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