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User: "Bible Bob"
Date: 01 Jul 2007 06:42:52 PM
Object: Why All the Anti Jehovah's Witnesses Posts?
Why is it that members of the Baptist cult and the Methodist cult
attack the Jewhovah's Witness cult? Who are these people that attack
the Jehovah's Witnesses?
If memory serves me right it has been people like Jason Gastridge,
John Wolf, John Weatherly, Carl McCasky, and checker - all
hyperreligious fundamentalist religionists - that post anti child of
God posts under the pretense of defending right docrines which are
really false doctrines.
1Co 6:15-17 KJV
15 Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I
then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an
harlot? God forbid.
16 What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one
body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.
17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.
2Co 3:17-18 KJV
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is,
there is liberty.
18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of
the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as
by the Spirit of the Lord.
Eph 4:1-6 KJV
1 I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk
worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called,
2 With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one
another in love;
3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one
hope of your calling;
5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and
in you all.
Members of the body of Christ which is the only true church of God
with Christ as its head orchestrating the activities of the body are
supposed to live in unity of the Spirit. Jesus said that people would
know that who his disciples are by their love one for another.
Joh 13:35 KJV
By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love
one to another.
Members of the body of Christ were directed by the head of the body;
Christ, to love one another.
Joh 13:34 KJV
A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have
loved you, that ye also love one another.
Joh 13:35 KJV
By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love
one to another.
Joh 15:12 KJV
This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.
Joh 15:17 KJV
These things I command you, that ye love one another.
Rom 12:10 KJV
Be kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour
preferring one another;
Rom 13:8 KJV
Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth
another hath fulfilled the law.
Gal 5:13 KJV
For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty
for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.
Eph 4:2 KJV
With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one
another in love;
1Th 3:12 KJV
And the Lord make you to increase and abound in love one toward
another, and toward all men, even as we do toward you:
1Th 4:9 KJV
But as touching brotherly love ye need not that I write unto you: for
ye yourselves are taught of God to love one another.
Heb 10:24 KJV
And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good
works:
1Pe 1:22 KJV
Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the
Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one
another with a pure heart fervently:
1Pe 3:8 KJV
Finally, be ye all of one mind, having compassion one of another, love
as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous:
1Jn 3:11 KJV
For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we
should love one another.
1Jn 3:23 KJV
And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his
Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
1Jn 4:7 KJV
Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one
that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.
1Jn 4:11 KJV
Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another.
1Jn 4:12 KJV
No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth
in us, and his love is perfected in us.
2Jn 1:5 KJV
And now I beseech thee, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment
unto thee, but that which we had from the beginning, that we love one
another.
Who are these men who are casting stones at the Jehovah's Witnesses?
Are they disciples of Jesus Christ? Where is their love for one
another? That is the test of whether a person is a disciple. What
about their fruit; quality of life? What kind of fruit are they
producing by attacking the children of God? No one knows who is and
who is not a child of God in the Baptist, Methodist, or Jehovah's
Witness cults. Cults are cults ran by cult leaders and cult leaders
have followers who they have motivated to follow. The Baptists and
Methodists have just as much if not more false doctrines to correct
than the Jehovah's Witnesses. What makes the Baptists and Methodists
so special that they can unrighteously judge members of another chain
gang?
Of late I have been reading some of Carl's posts by some of his man
gods. In them I have seen the writers use phrases such as "true
Christian" to motivate their followers to think that only they are
true Christians and all else are false Christians. It's a lie and
just one example of the many false doctrines propagated by false
teachers who are schismatics. They even use the word Christian in the
wrong sense. A Christian is by definition a disciple of Jesus Christ;
not some idiot that goes to church and thinks himself holier than
thou.
I am thankful that I am not a member of any denominational sect led
about by Satan through false teachers to do harm to my brothers and
sisters in Christ.
BB
.

User: "bob young"

Title: Re: Why All the Anti Jehovah's Witnesses Posts? 04 Jul 2007 05:42:01 AM
Bible Bob wrote:

Why is it that members of the Baptist cult and the Methodist cult
attack the Jewhovah's Witness cult? Who are these people that attack
the Jehovah's Witnesses?

Well it's due to 'frustration'
You see the entire Christian gambit is based on mythology and in turn
that means something that is 'man made'
So given enough time man becomes impatient, arrogant and develops a
desire for more influence over others, so the entire fabric of the
religion becomes fractionalised, which in turn leads to bickering -
another human trait.
Of course were there a god this would not happen, the god would see to
that.
This is how Hoffmann put it:
"Christians, it is needless to say, utterly detest each other. They
slander each other constantly with the vilest forms of abuse and cannot
come to any sort of agreement in their teachings. Each sect brands its
own, fills the head of its own with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect
little pigs of those it wins over to its side."
[R.J.Hoffmann]



If memory serves me right it has been people like Jason Gastridge,
John Wolf, John Weatherly, Carl McCasky, and checker - all
hyperreligious fundamentalist religionists - that post anti child of
God posts under the pretense of defending right docrines which are
really false doctrines.

1Co 6:15-17 KJV
15 Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I
then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an
harlot? God forbid.
16 What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one
body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.
17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.

2Co 3:17-18 KJV
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is,
there is liberty.
18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of
the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as
by the Spirit of the Lord.

Eph 4:1-6 KJV
1 I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk
worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called,
2 With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one
another in love;
3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one
hope of your calling;
5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and
in you all.

Members of the body of Christ which is the only true church of God
with Christ as its head orchestrating the activities of the body are
supposed to live in unity of the Spirit. Jesus said that people would
know that who his disciples are by their love one for another.

Joh 13:35 KJV
By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love
one to another.

Members of the body of Christ were directed by the head of the body;
Christ, to love one another.

Joh 13:34 KJV
A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have
loved you, that ye also love one another.

Joh 13:35 KJV
By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love
one to another.

Joh 15:12 KJV
This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.

Joh 15:17 KJV
These things I command you, that ye love one another.

Rom 12:10 KJV
Be kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour
preferring one another;

Rom 13:8 KJV
Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth
another hath fulfilled the law.

Gal 5:13 KJV
For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty
for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.

Eph 4:2 KJV
With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one
another in love;

1Th 3:12 KJV
And the Lord make you to increase and abound in love one toward
another, and toward all men, even as we do toward you:

1Th 4:9 KJV
But as touching brotherly love ye need not that I write unto you: for
ye yourselves are taught of God to love one another.

Heb 10:24 KJV
And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good
works:

1Pe 1:22 KJV
Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the
Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one
another with a pure heart fervently:

1Pe 3:8 KJV
Finally, be ye all of one mind, having compassion one of another, love
as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous:

1Jn 3:11 KJV
For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we
should love one another.

1Jn 3:23 KJV
And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his
Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.

1Jn 4:7 KJV
Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one
that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.

1Jn 4:11 KJV
Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another.

1Jn 4:12 KJV
No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth
in us, and his love is perfected in us.

2Jn 1:5 KJV
And now I beseech thee, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment
unto thee, but that which we had from the beginning, that we love one
another.

Who are these men who are casting stones at the Jehovah's Witnesses?
Are they disciples of Jesus Christ? Where is their love for one
another? That is the test of whether a person is a disciple. What
about their fruit; quality of life? What kind of fruit are they
producing by attacking the children of God? No one knows who is and
who is not a child of God in the Baptist, Methodist, or Jehovah's
Witness cults. Cults are cults ran by cult leaders and cult leaders
have followers who they have motivated to follow. The Baptists and
Methodists have just as much if not more false doctrines to correct
than the Jehovah's Witnesses. What makes the Baptists and Methodists
so special that they can unrighteously judge members of another chain
gang?

Of late I have been reading some of Carl's posts by some of his man
gods. In them I have seen the writers use phrases such as "true
Christian" to motivate their followers to think that only they are
true Christians and all else are false Christians. It's a lie and
just one example of the many false doctrines propagated by false
teachers who are schismatics. They even use the word Christian in the
wrong sense. A Christian is by definition a disciple of Jesus Christ;
not some idiot that goes to church and thinks himself holier than
thou.

I am thankful that I am not a member of any denominational sect led
about by Satan through false teachers to do harm to my brothers and
sisters in Christ.

BB

.
User: "Carl"

Title: Re: Why All the Anti Jehovah's Witnesses Posts? 04 Jul 2007 03:16:52 PM
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:468B78D3.7399FE3C@netvigator.com...

This is how Hoffmann put it:

"Christians, it is needless to say, utterly detest each other. They
slander each other constantly with the vilest forms of abuse and cannot
come to any sort of agreement in their teachings. Each sect brands its
own, fills the head of its own with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect
little pigs of those it wins over to its side."
[R.J.Hoffmann]

This is how it should have been put:
"R.J. Hoffman, it is needless to say, utterly detests Christians. He
slanders them with the volest forms of abuse and cannot come to any sort of
agreement with their teachings. He brands his own, fills the heads of his
own with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect little pigs of those he wins
over to his side."
Interesting how apt the statement becomes when Hoffman's name is attached.
While on the other hand, how illogical Hoffman's statement is due to the
sweeping overgeneralization it contains as well as his obvious contempt
making his whole premise moot.
May God bless,
Carl
my website -- http://www.nettally.com/saints/
my blog -- http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/
.
User: "bob young"

Title: Re: Why All the Anti Jehovah's Witnesses Posts? 06 Jul 2007 01:08:01 AM
Carl wrote:

"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:468B78D3.7399FE3C@netvigator.com...

This is how Hoffmann put it:

"Christians, it is needless to say, utterly detest each other. They
slander each other constantly with the vilest forms of abuse and cannot
come to any sort of agreement in their teachings. Each sect brands its
own, fills the head of its own with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect
little pigs of those it wins over to its side."
[R.J.Hoffmann]


This is how it should have been put:

"R.J. Hoffman, it is needless to say, utterly detests Christians. He
slanders them with the volest forms of abuse and cannot come to any sort of
agreement with their teachings. He brands his own, fills the heads of his
own with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect little pigs of those he wins
over to his side."

Interesting how apt the statement becomes when Hoffman's name is attached.
While on the other hand, how illogical Hoffman's statement is due to the
sweeping overgeneralization it contains as well as his obvious contempt
making his whole premise moot.

How silly - you people never stop proving that Hoffmann is perfectly correct
in his assumptions
all one has to do is stick around here a while and open up sme of your posts



May God bless,
Carl
my website -- http://www.nettally.com/saints/
my blog -- http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/

.



User: ""

Title: Re: Why All the Anti Jehovah's Witnesses Posts? 02 Jul 2007 07:32:23 PM
On Jul 1, 4:42 pm, Bible Bob <bible...@saintly.com> wrote:

Why is it that members of the Baptist cult and the Methodist cult
attack the Jewhovah's Witness cult? Who are these people that attack
the Jehovah's Witnesses?

If memory serves me right it has been people like Jason Gastridge,
John Wolf, John Weatherly, Carl McCasky, and checker - all
hyperreligious fundamentalist religionists - that post anti child of
God posts under the pretense of defending right docrines which are
really false doctrines.

1Co 6:15-17 KJV
15 Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I
then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an
harlot? God forbid.
16 What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one
body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.
17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.

2Co 3:17-18 KJV
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is,
there is liberty.
18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of
the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as
by the Spirit of the Lord.

Eph 4:1-6 KJV
1 I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk
worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called,
2 With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one
another in love;
3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one
hope of your calling;
5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and
in you all.

Members of the body of Christ which is the only true church of God
with Christ as its head orchestrating the activities of the body are
supposed to live in unity of the Spirit. Jesus said that people would
know that who his disciples are by their love one for another.

Joh 13:35 KJV
By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love
one to another.

Members of the body of Christ were directed by the head of the body;
Christ, to love one another.

Joh 13:34 KJV
A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have
loved you, that ye also love one another.

Joh 13:35 KJV
By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love
one to another.

Joh 15:12 KJV
This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.

Joh 15:17 KJV
These things I command you, that ye love one another.

Rom 12:10 KJV
Be kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour
preferring one another;

Rom 13:8 KJV
Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth
another hath fulfilled the law.

Gal 5:13 KJV
For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty
for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.

Eph 4:2 KJV
With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one
another in love;

1Th 3:12 KJV
And the Lord make you to increase and abound in love one toward
another, and toward all men, even as we do toward you:

1Th 4:9 KJV
But as touching brotherly love ye need not that I write unto you: for
ye yourselves are taught of God to love one another.

Heb 10:24 KJV
And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good
works:

1Pe 1:22 KJV
Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the
Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one
another with a pure heart fervently:

1Pe 3:8 KJV
Finally, be ye all of one mind, having compassion one of another, love
as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous:

1Jn 3:11 KJV
For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we
should love one another.

1Jn 3:23 KJV
And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his
Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.

1Jn 4:7 KJV
Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one
that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.

1Jn 4:11 KJV
Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another.

1Jn 4:12 KJV
No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth
in us, and his love is perfected in us.

2Jn 1:5 KJV
And now I beseech thee, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment
unto thee, but that which we had from the beginning, that we love one
another.

Who are these men who are casting stones at the Jehovah's Witnesses?
Are they disciples of Jesus Christ? Where is their love for one
another? That is the test of whether a person is a disciple. What
about their fruit; quality of life? What kind of fruit are they
producing by attacking the children of God? No one knows who is and
who is not a child of God in the Baptist, Methodist, or Jehovah's
Witness cults. Cults are cults ran by cult leaders and cult leaders
have followers who they have motivated to follow. The Baptists and
Methodists have just as much if not more false doctrines to correct
than the Jehovah's Witnesses. What makes the Baptists and Methodists
so special that they can unrighteously judge members of another chain
gang?

Of late I have been reading some of Carl's posts by some of his man
gods. In them I have seen the writers use phrases such as "true
Christian" to motivate their followers to think that only they are
true Christians and all else are false Christians. It's a lie and
just one example of the many false doctrines propagated by false
teachers who are schismatics. They even use the word Christian in the
wrong sense. A Christian is by definition a disciple of Jesus Christ;
not some idiot that goes to church and thinks himself holier than
thou.

I am thankful that I am not a member of any denominational sect led
about by Satan through false teachers to do harm to my brothers and
sisters in Christ.

BB

Dude, the JWs are a cult. Admitedly no one is perfect but we are
called to judge doctrine, and the JW doctrine is severly flawed and
quite frankly dangerous.
.
User: "Pastor Dave"

Title: Re: Why All the Anti Jehovah's Witnesses Posts? 02 Jul 2007 08:10:48 PM
On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 00:32:23 -0000,
spoke
thusly:

On Jul 1, 4:42 pm, Bible Bob <bible...@saintly.com> wrote:

Why is it that members of the Baptist cult and the Methodist cult
attack the Jewhovah's Witness cult? Who are these people that attack
the Jehovah's Witnesses?

If memory serves me right it has been people like Jason Gastridge,
John Wolf, John Weatherly, Carl McCasky, and checker - all
hyperreligious fundamentalist religionists - that post anti child of
God posts under the pretense of defending right docrines which are
really false doctrines.

1Co 6:15-17 KJV

2Co 3:17-18 KJV

Eph 4:1-6 KJV

Joh 13:35 KJV

Joh 13:34 KJV

Joh 13:35 KJV

Joh 15:12 KJV

Joh 15:17 KJV

Rom 12:10 KJV

Rom 13:8 KJV

Gal 5:13 KJV

Eph 4:2 KJV

1Th 3:12 KJV

1Th 4:9 KJV

Heb 10:24 KJV

1Pe 1:22 KJV

1Pe 3:8 KJV

1Jn 3:11 KJV

1Jn 3:23 KJV

1Jn 4:7 KJV

1Jn 4:11 KJV

1Jn 4:12 KJV

2Jn 1:5 KJV

Who are these men who are casting stones
at the Jehovah's Witnesses? Are they disciples
of Jesus Christ? Where is their love for one
another? That is the test of whether a person
is a disciple. What about their fruit; quality
of life? What kind of fruit are they producing
by attacking the children of God? No one
knows who is and who is not a child of God
in the Baptist, Methodist, or Jehovah's Witness
cults. Cults are cults ran by cult leaders and
cult leaders have followers who they have
motivated to follow. The Baptists and Methodists
have just as much if not more false doctrines to
correct than the Jehovah's Witnesses. What makes
the Baptists and Methodists so special that they can
unrighteously judge members of another chain
gang?


I am thankful that I am not a member of any
denominational sect led about by Satan through
false teachers to do harm to my brothers and
sisters in Christ.

BB


Dude, the JWs are a cult. Admitedly no one is perfect
but we are called to judge doctrine, and the JW doctrine
is severly flawed and quite frankly dangerous.

Obviously dude, you are severely screwed up in the head!
Why? Because you have not realized that only Bible Bob
can judge (as he did above) everyone and no one else is
allowed to! :)
You have to remember that if you're not for Bible Bob,
then you are a member of a cult. Of course, if you are
for Bible Bob, then that would be the "Bible Bob Cult".
But he doesn't consider that and doesn't much care.
And of course, if you are not a member of any denomination,
you will still be accused of being in one, because you decided
to disagree with Bible Bob. And if necessary, you will be
accused of being "a cult of one". :)
Bob is an extremely judgmental person and spends his time
here judging what others are doing wrong, never taking the
time to consider that there might actually be error in what
he believes. He is self righteous and loves to play word
games with people, trying to confuse them to the point
that they no longer know what the subject was. And if
you prove him wrong about something, or ask him a
question to make a point, that he can't answer, then you
will become a worker of Satan, who is too drowned in
evil to know God, nor what His word teaches.
To Bob, everyone is a false teacher but Bob. Ask him
about Revelation 21:2,9-10 and see what you get for
an answer. :)
And yes, I know that my post seems a bit judgmental,
but bear in mind, I'm speaking from experience with
him and hey, I'm not calling at least half the Christian
community followers of false teachers. After all, how
could I? God assigned that job to Bob! :)
This man is weak minded and should be ashamed of
himself, not even seeing how he preaches about us
loving one another and then posts messages of our
condemnation. When cornered into answering a
direct question which shows that Scripturally, something
he said is contradicted, then the guns start blazing and
the man will never admit that he simply couldn't answer
the question and just doesn't want to face the fact that
his claims aren't holding water. Sad indeed! (:
But hey, what do you expect from a guy who just
quoted half the Bible above, which most of didn't
have anything to do at all with the subject? That
was one of those word games I was telling you
about, sir. :)
--
Pastor Dave
Expand and go out into the ocean of your faith.
God doesn't do His deepest work in the shallowest
part of the water.
The world says that seeing is believing.
The Bible says that believing is seeing.
Doctrine is not Scripture.
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Why All the Anti Jehovah's Witnesses Posts? 03 Jul 2007 11:52:08 AM
On Jul 2, 6:10 pm, Pastor Dave <n...@nowhere.com> wrote:

On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 00:32:23 -0000,

spoke
thusly:





On Jul 1, 4:42 pm, Bible Bob <bible...@saintly.com> wrote:


Why is it that members of the Baptist cult and the Methodist cult
attack the Jewhovah's Witness cult? Who are these people that attack
the Jehovah's Witnesses?


If memory serves me right it has been people like Jason Gastridge,
John Wolf, John Weatherly, Carl McCasky, and checker - all
hyperreligious fundamentalist religionists - that post anti child of
God posts under the pretense of defending right docrines which are
really false doctrines.


1Co 6:15-17 KJV


2Co 3:17-18 KJV


Eph 4:1-6 KJV


Joh 13:35 KJV


Joh 13:34 KJV


Joh 13:35 KJV


Joh 15:12 KJV


Joh 15:17 KJV


Rom 12:10 KJV


Rom 13:8 KJV


Gal 5:13 KJV


Eph 4:2 KJV


1Th 3:12 KJV


1Th 4:9 KJV


Heb 10:24 KJV


1Pe 1:22 KJV


1Pe 3:8 KJV


1Jn 3:11 KJV


1Jn 3:23 KJV


1Jn 4:7 KJV


1Jn 4:11 KJV


1Jn 4:12 KJV


2Jn 1:5 KJV


Who are these men who are casting stones
at the Jehovah's Witnesses? Are they disciples
of Jesus Christ? Where is their love for one
another? That is the test of whether a person
is a disciple. What about their fruit; quality
of life? What kind of fruit are they producing
by attacking the children of God? No one
knows who is and who is not a child of God
in the Baptist, Methodist, or Jehovah's Witness
cults. Cults are cults ran by cult leaders and
cult leaders have followers who they have
motivated to follow. The Baptists and Methodists
have just as much if not more false doctrines to
correct than the Jehovah's Witnesses. What makes
the Baptists and Methodists so special that they can
unrighteously judge members of another chain
gang?


I am thankful that I am not a member of any
denominational sect led about by Satan through
false teachers to do harm to my brothers and
sisters in Christ.


BB


Dude, the JWs are a cult. Admitedly no one is perfect
but we are called to judge doctrine, and the JW doctrine
is severly flawed and quite frankly dangerous.


Obviously dude, you are severely screwed up in the head!
Why? Because you have not realized that only Bible Bob
can judge (as he did above) everyone and no one else is
allowed to! :)

You have to remember that if you're not for Bible Bob,
then you are a member of a cult. Of course, if you are
for Bible Bob, then that would be the "Bible Bob Cult".
But he doesn't consider that and doesn't much care.

And of course, if you are not a member of any denomination,
you will still be accused of being in one, because you decided
to disagree with Bible Bob. And if necessary, you will be
accused of being "a cult of one". :)

Bob is an extremely judgmental person and spends his time
here judging what others are doing wrong, never taking the
time to consider that there might actually be error in what
he believes. He is self righteous and loves to play word
games with people, trying to confuse them to the point
that they no longer know what the subject was. And if
you prove him wrong about something, or ask him a
question to make a point, that he can't answer, then you
will become a worker of Satan, who is too drowned in
evil to know God, nor what His word teaches.

To Bob, everyone is a false teacher but Bob. Ask him
about Revelation 21:2,9-10 and see what you get for
an answer. :)

And yes, I know that my post seems a bit judgmental,
but bear in mind, I'm speaking from experience with
him and hey, I'm not calling at least half the Christian
community followers of false teachers. After all, how
could I? God assigned that job to Bob! :)

This man is weak minded and should be ashamed of
himself, not even seeing how he preaches about us
loving one another and then posts messages of our
condemnation. When cornered into answering a
direct question which shows that Scripturally, something
he said is contradicted, then the guns start blazing and
the man will never admit that he simply couldn't answer
the question and just doesn't want to face the fact that
his claims aren't holding water. Sad indeed! (:

But hey, what do you expect from a guy who just
quoted half the Bible above, which most of didn't
have anything to do at all with the subject? That
was one of those word games I was telling you
about, sir. :)

--

Pastor Dave

Expand and go out into the ocean of your faith.
God doesn't do His deepest work in the shallowest
part of the water.

The world says that seeing is believing.
The Bible says that believing is seeing.

Doctrine is not Scripture.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

So your saying this is a pearls before swine kind of thing? Thanks
for the tip Pastor Dave.
Bob, hush the grownups are talking now. Go learn some sound doctrine
and then come and run with the big dogs.
.
User: "Pastor Dave"

Title: Re: Why All the Anti Jehovah's Witnesses Posts? 03 Jul 2007 03:20:16 PM
On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:52:08 -0000,
spoke
thusly:

But hey, what do you expect from a guy who just
quoted half the Bible above, which most of didn't
have anything to do at all with the subject? That
was one of those word games I was telling you
about, sir. :)


So your saying this is a pearls before swine kind of thing?

I can go with that. :)

Thanks for the tip Pastor Dave.

You're quite welcome.
--
Pastor Dave
Expand and go out into the ocean of your faith.
God doesn't do His deepest work in the shallowest
part of the water.
The world says that seeing is believing.
The Bible says that believing is seeing.
Doctrine is not Scripture.
.




User: "Raymond"

Title: Re: Why All the Anti Jehovah's Witnesses Posts? 01 Jul 2007 10:26:04 PM
On Jul 1, 6:42 pm, Bible Bob <bible...@saintly.com> wrote:

Why is it that members of the Baptist cult and the Methodist cult
attack the Jewhovah's Witness cult? Who are these people that attack
the Jehovah's Witnesses?

Why do you call people that except the Lord Jesus Christ as saviour
with the Jehovah Witness which deny that Jesus is God?
Jehovah Witness are a cult, and you calling Christians as cults lead
one to question what cult do you belong to, and why do you attack them
that do teach against the false teachings of the JW?

1Co 6:15-17 KJV
15 Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I
then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an
harlot? God forbid.
16 What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one
body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.
17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.

2Co 3:17-18 KJV
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is,
there is liberty.
18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of
the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as
by the Spirit of the Lord.

Eph 4:1-6 KJV
1 I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk
worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called,
2 With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one
another in love;
3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one
hope of your calling;
5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and
in you all.

Members of the body of Christ which is the only true church of God
with Christ as its head orchestrating the activities of the body are
supposed to live in unity of the Spirit. Jesus said that people would
know that who his disciples are by their love one for another.

You calling people that love Jesus as cults only lead to these verses
showing you are not a true member of the body of Christ.


Joh 13:35 KJV
By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love
one to another.

Members of the body of Christ were directed by the head of the body;
Christ, to love one another.

No where does it say to love them that do evil or deny that Jesus is
Lord and Jesus is God. Rebuke them, cast them out, there is no love
between evil and them that Love Jesus. We can love the sinner to
bring them to Jesus, we do not love their sin and can not support them
that seem to think it is OK to do so.

Joh 13:34 KJV
A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have
loved you, that ye also love one another.

Joh 13:35 KJV
By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love
one to another.

Joh 15:12 KJV
This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.

Joh 15:17 KJV
These things I command you, that ye love one another.

Rom 12:10 KJV
Be kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour
preferring one another;

Rom 13:8 KJV
Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth
another hath fulfilled the law.

Gal 5:13 KJV
For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty
for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.

Eph 4:2 KJV
With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one
another in love;

1Th 3:12 KJV
And the Lord make you to increase and abound in love one toward
another, and toward all men, even as we do toward you:

1Th 4:9 KJV
But as touching brotherly love ye need not that I write unto you: for
ye yourselves are taught of God to love one another.

Heb 10:24 KJV
And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good
works:

1Pe 1:22 KJV
Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the
Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one
another with a pure heart fervently:

1Pe 3:8 KJV
Finally, be ye all of one mind, having compassion one of another, love
as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous:

1Jn 3:11 KJV
For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we
should love one another.

1Jn 3:23 KJV
And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his
Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.

1Jn 4:7 KJV
Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one
that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.

1Jn 4:11 KJV
Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another.

1Jn 4:12 KJV
No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth
in us, and his love is perfected in us.

2Jn 1:5 KJV
And now I beseech thee, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment
unto thee, but that which we had from the beginning, that we love one
another.

It seems you want to use the these verse to make your point that you
are better then these folks, one is NOT to love sin, or love them that
preach false doctrine or them that deny Jesus is LORD as the JW do.


Who are these men who are casting stones at the Jehovah's Witnesses?

They have every rigth to do so, are you wanting the stones to be cast
at you for siding with them in a cult and them that deny that JESUS IS
GOD?

Are they disciples of Jesus Christ? Where is their love for one
another? That is the test of whether a person is a disciple. What
about their fruit; quality of life? What kind of fruit are they
producing by attacking the children of God? No one knows who is and

The JW are NOT children of GOD! They are children of false teaching
and deny that Jesus is God. One is to love them that Jesus loves and
love one another, no where are we to love them that teach and deny the
saviour, they are lost, we should love them to Jesus and one way is to
teach they are in false doctrine so they can see the errors of their
teachings and find that real God and Saviour.

who is not a child of God in the Baptist, Methodist, or Jehovah's
Witness cults. Cults are cults ran by cult leaders and cult leaders

All the Jehovah's Witness are in a cult and are NOT THE CHILDREN OF
GOD.

have followers who they have motivated to follow. The Baptists and
Methodists have just as much if not more false doctrines to correct
than the Jehovah's Witnesses. What makes the Baptists and Methodists
so special that they can unrighteously judge members of another chain
gang?

It seems like you and the JW need to be corrected and judged by the
Word of God as lost and that is the teachings of the Righteous Judge.


Of late I have been reading some of Carl's posts by some of his man
gods. In them I have seen the writers use phrases such as "true
Christian" to motivate their followers to think that only they are
true Christians and all else are false Christians. It's a lie and
just one example of the many false doctrines propagated by false
teachers who are schismatics. They even use the word Christian in the
wrong sense. A Christian is by definition a disciple of Jesus Christ;
not some idiot that goes to church and thinks himself holier than
thou.

You need to read this to yourself, as you fit those words to a Tee.
You are acting like you are holier then them and you would be that
"idiot" you called others. A disciple of Jesus Christ does not let
evil rule and false cults and them that deny Jesus as LORD keep
preaching without teaching against their false evil ways. Holiness
and sin have nothing to do with each other, as it seems you have made
up your own mind a Christian and the JW does not even fit your own
statement.

I am thankful that I am not a member of any denominational sect led
about by Satan through false teachers to do harm to my brothers and
sisters in Christ.

You should be ashamed to make such a statement, as the Bible teaches
to fellowship with one another and all the verses above show you for
your lack of love to others that do join together in fellowship to
serve Jesus. You teachings sound like they are lead by Satan and are
false and they do harm the true brothers and sisters in Christ, by
your words making them a cult along with a real cult the JW group that
deny that Jesus is God and say he is not, and just a man, like any
man, making Jesus as lost a sinner as they are.


BB

What Bible do you read Bob? I seen a few books that are called Bible
and have nothing to do with the HOLY BIBLE is that the kind of Bible
you use?
.
User: "ResLight"

Title: Re: Why All the Anti Jehovah's Witnesses Posts? 06 Jul 2007 09:57:34 PM
"Raymond" <rwknapp@aim.com> wrote in message
news:1183346764.070199.129430@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...

On Jul 1, 6:42 pm, Bible Bob <bible...@saintly.com> wrote:

Why is it that members of the Baptist cult and the Methodist cult
attack the Jewhovah's Witness cult? Who are these people that attack
the Jehovah's Witnesses?


Why do you call people that except the Lord Jesus Christ as saviour
with the Jehovah Witness which deny that Jesus is God?

Since Jesus is not his God, the only true God who sent him (John 17:1,3),
then the JWs are at least correct on that point.
In service of Jesus and his God,
Ronald
http://godandson.reslight.net
.
User: "Carl"

Title: Re: Why All the Anti Jehovah's Witnesses Posts? 14 Jul 2007 02:34:06 PM
"Egbert" <egbert@mailingimpliesthatyouagreetopayme50bucks.invalid> wrote in
message news:46932b26$0$25480$ba620dc5@text.nova.planet.nl...


"My Lord and My God" addressing Jesus. Jesus told Philip when asked


Thomas did not say: "My Lord, you ARE GOD" but he expressed amazement just
like many Americans say: "OMG (oh my God!)"

That is absolutely rubbish. Beside the historical fact that such an
expression (e.g. - an expression of amazement) did not exist in Biblical
times, it would have drawn an immediate rebuke by Jesus for taking the
Lord's name in vain. However when Thomas called Jesus "my God" Jesus did not
rebuke him, but commended Thomas for believing that Jesus is God.
John 20:28-29
Thomas said to him, "My Lord and my God !" Then Jesus told him, "Because you
have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet
have believed."
Your claim that Thomas was expressing amazement using a phrase "like many
Americans say" is patently absurd, clearly unBiblical and even Jesus'
response further supports Thomas' belief that Jesus is God. Thomas called
Jesus "my God" because he finally realized that Jesus is God manifest in
flesh, the second person in the Trinity.
May God bless,
Carl
my website -- http://www.nettally.com/saints/
my blog -- http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/
.
User: "Libertarius"

Title: Re: Why All the Anti Jehovah's Witnesses Posts? 14 Jul 2007 05:37:46 PM
Carl wrote:

"Egbert" <egbert@mailingimpliesthatyouagreetopayme50bucks.invalid> wrote in
message news:46932b26$0$25480$ba620dc5@text.nova.planet.nl...

"My Lord and My God" addressing Jesus. Jesus told Philip when asked


Thomas did not say: "My Lord, you ARE GOD" but he expressed amazement just
like many Americans say: "OMG (oh my God!)"



That is absolutely rubbish. Beside the historical fact that such an
expression (e.g. - an expression of amazement) did not exist in Biblical
times, it would have drawn an immediate rebuke by Jesus for taking the
Lord's name in vain. However when Thomas called Jesus "my God" Jesus did not
rebuke him, but commended Thomas for believing that Jesus is God.

John 20:28-29

Thomas said to him, "My Lord and my God !" Then Jesus told him, "Because you
have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet
have believed."

Your claim that Thomas was expressing amazement using a phrase "like many
Americans say" is patently absurd, clearly unBiblical and even Jesus'
response further supports Thomas' belief that Jesus is God. Thomas called
Jesus "my God" because he finally realized that Jesus is God manifest in
flesh, the second person in the Trinity.

May God bless,
Carl
my website -- http://www.nettally.com/saints/
my blog -- http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/


===>you obviously don't know that the source of that attribution to
the fictional "Thomas" is the PAGAN address to the Roman "Divine
Emperor" who was addressed "OUR LORD AND OUR GOD". -- L.
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
.

User: "Bible Bob"

Title: Re: Why All the Anti Jehovah's Witnesses Posts? 14 Jul 2007 08:14:55 PM
On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 15:34:06 -0400, "Carl" <saints@nettally.com>
wrote:


"Egbert" <egbert@mailingimpliesthatyouagreetopayme50bucks.invalid> wrote in
message news:46932b26$0$25480$ba620dc5@text.nova.planet.nl...


"My Lord and My God" addressing Jesus. Jesus told Philip when asked


Thomas did not say: "My Lord, you ARE GOD" but he expressed amazement just
like many Americans say: "OMG (oh my God!)"


That is absolutely rubbish. Beside the historical fact that such an
expression (e.g. - an expression of amazement) did not exist in Biblical
times, it would have drawn an immediate rebuke by Jesus for taking the
Lord's name in vain. However when Thomas called Jesus "my God" Jesus did not
rebuke him, but commended Thomas for believing that Jesus is God.

John 20:28-29

Thomas said to him, "My Lord and my God !" Then Jesus told him, "Because you
have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet
have believed."

Your claim that Thomas was expressing amazement using a phrase "like many
Americans say" is patently absurd, clearly unBiblical and even Jesus'
response further supports Thomas' belief that Jesus is God. Thomas called
Jesus "my God" because he finally realized that Jesus is God manifest in
flesh, the second person in the Trinity.

May God bless,
Carl
my website -- http://www.nettally.com/saints/
my blog -- http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/

Carl,
Trix are for kids. Stoping trying to be one. Quote the verses in
context. I have suggested this several times but you refuse to do so
because read in context your silly trix won't work on adults.
Joh 20:26-31 KJV
26 And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas
with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the
midst, and said, Peace be unto you.
27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my
hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be
not faithless, but believing.
28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast
believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
30 And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his
disciples, which are not written in this book:
31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the
Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through
his name.
Verses 30 and 31 blow your false doctrine out of the water. The
puspose of the book was so that we might believe that Jesus is the
Christ, the Son of God; not God.
What you have in that verse is called a fallacy of accent which occurs
when very often in the English versions where the editors wanted to
trick people into thinking something they wanted them to think. They
simply capitalized "god" where it should read "god" without a capital
"G." In the Greek the word "god" is not capitalized if the ms is
cursive or all the letters of the word are capitalized if uncial.
Capitalization and punctuation are two of the tools used by the
tricksters to fool those they know will be too lazy to compare what
they say to what the Greek says. The Greek word is "theos" and can
refer to God or God's representative or some other god. It is
connected with "mou" (my) and preceded by the article "ho". Hence the
sense is, my representative from God.
To use the Lord's name in vain means to use it without a correct
purpose. "Theos" is not the Lord's name. Thomas was a devout
follower of Christ and hence a true follower of the Law and the
Prophets who would not have said that Jesus was God in the sense of
"God the Creator" but could use "god" in the sense of God's
representative without being in vioaltion of the Law or the prophets.
Thre was no reason for Jesus to correct Thomas. People are corrected
when they are wrong. Then, too, verse 31 says that Jesus did some
things that were not written in the book. Maybe he did correct Thomas
out of earshot of the other disciples. We do not know.
But for you, a person who does not know how to read the word of God,
to say that what Thomas said is proof that Jesus Christ is God is just
foolishness and a lack of understanding of spiritual matters on your
part.
Let's face it. You have proven on a daily basis that you lack
confidnece in your knowledge of the Scriptures. You are afraid to
post what the word of God says because you might make a boo boo.
Instead of expounding the Scriptures, you expound the doctrines of
devils as the word of God.
BB
.




User: "Merlin"

Title: Re: Why All the Anti Jehovah's Witnesses Posts? 03 Jul 2007 08:04:28 AM
hey Raymond

where are these attacks you mention?


in love with the living gay jesus who taught us not to cross post,
since you have......


Jesus was glad,

when?

happy,

where?

but

tee hee you wrote but.

not gay

how?

as the term is used today.

so being called gay is a christian insult? that is how this all got
started no? insults from christians?

Such as
this "Bright and pleasant; promoting a feeling of cheer".

and sin is missing the mark in archery in the greek it comes
from.......
what is your point?

If one uses these links why should they not post to all the links they
use?

why? god why?

Saves having to rewrite and re-post to each group.

dude, how many dudes you chatting up on this good thang? have you
noticed there are very few women on here.

Then Google
newsgroups only let a message go to five 5 groups so the extra links
have to be removed as in your post here to be sent out.

it's a nuisance yes, yet look at all the odd places these posts go, it
introduces a whole unwanting group of people to another reality that
can only strengthen them through exposure to other worlds. not of
merlin's choosing.




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alt.christnet.theology, , alt.christnet,
alt.religion.christian, alt.religion.christian.baptist,
alt.religion.christian.biblestudy, alt.christnet,
alt.religion.christian.pentecostal, free.christians, alt.christnet

.

User: "john w"

Title: Re: Why All the Anti Jehovah's Witnesses Posts? 02 Jul 2007 08:55:59 PM
x-no-archive: yes
On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 19:42:52 -0400, Bible Bob <biblebob@saintly.com>
wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.

Why is it that members of the Baptist cult and the Methodist cult
attack the Jewhovah's Witness cult? Who are these people that attack
the Jehovah's Witnesses?

You once again prove that you don't know sound teaching or doctrine!
If you examined Jehovah's Witness teaching, the JWs teach that Jesus
was / is an ANGEL.
john w


If memory serves me right it has been people like Jason Gastridge,
John Wolf, John Weatherly, Carl McCasky, and checker - all
hyperreligious fundamentalist religionists - that post anti child of
God posts under the pretense of defending right docrines which are
really false doctrines.

1Co 6:15-17 KJV
15 Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I
then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an
harlot? God forbid.
16 What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one
body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.
17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.

2Co 3:17-18 KJV
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is,
there is liberty.
18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of
the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as
by the Spirit of the Lord.

Eph 4:1-6 KJV
1 I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk
worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called,
2 With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one
another in love;
3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one
hope of your calling;
5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and
in you all.

Members of the body of Christ which is the only true church of God
with Christ as its head orchestrating the activities of the body are
supposed to live in unity of the Spirit. Jesus said that people would
know that who his disciples are by their love one for another.

Joh 13:35 KJV
By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love
one to another.

Members of the body of Christ were directed by the head of the body;
Christ, to love one another.

Joh 13:34 KJV
A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have
loved you, that ye also love one another.

Joh 13:35 KJV
By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love
one to another.

Joh 15:12 KJV
This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.

Joh 15:17 KJV
These things I command you, that ye love one another.

Rom 12:10 KJV
Be kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour
preferring one another;

Rom 13:8 KJV
Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth
another hath fulfilled the law.

Gal 5:13 KJV
For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty
for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.

Eph 4:2 KJV
With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one
another in love;

1Th 3:12 KJV
And the Lord make you to increase and abound in love one toward
another, and toward all men, even as we do toward you:

1Th 4:9 KJV
But as touching brotherly love ye need not that I write unto you: for
ye yourselves are taught of God to love one another.

Heb 10:24 KJV
And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good
works:

1Pe 1:22 KJV
Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the
Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one
another with a pure heart fervently:

1Pe 3:8 KJV
Finally, be ye all of one mind, having compassion one of another, love
as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous:

1Jn 3:11 KJV
For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we
should love one another.

1Jn 3:23 KJV
And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his
Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.

1Jn 4:7 KJV
Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one
that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.

1Jn 4:11 KJV
Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another.

1Jn 4:12 KJV
No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth
in us, and his love is perfected in us.

2Jn 1:5 KJV
And now I beseech thee, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment
unto thee, but that which we had from the beginning, that we love one
another.

Who are these men who are casting stones at the Jehovah's Witnesses?
Are they disciples of Jesus Christ? Where is their love for one
another? That is the test of whether a person is a disciple. What
about their fruit; quality of life? What kind of fruit are they
producing by attacking the children of God? No one knows who is and
who is not a child of God in the Baptist, Methodist, or Jehovah's
Witness cults. Cults are cults ran by cult leaders and cult leaders
have followers who they have motivated to follow. The Baptists and
Methodists have just as much if not more false doctrines to correct
than the Jehovah's Witnesses. What makes the Baptists and Methodists
so special that they can unrighteously judge members of another chain
gang?

Of late I have been reading some of Carl's posts by some of his man
gods. In them I have seen the writers use phrases such as "true
Christian" to motivate their followers to think that only they are
true Christians and all else are false Christians. It's a lie and
just one example of the many false doctrines propagated by false
teachers who are schismatics. They even use the word Christian in the
wrong sense. A Christian is by definition a disciple of Jesus Christ;
not some idiot that goes to church and thinks himself holier than
thou.

I am thankful that I am not a member of any denominational sect led
about by Satan through false teachers to do harm to my brothers and
sisters in Christ.

BB

.
User: "Bible Bob"

Title: Re: Why All the Anti Jehovah's Witnesses Posts? 03 Jul 2007 07:48:39 AM
On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 18:55:59 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@yahoo.com>
wrote:

x-no-archive: yes
On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 19:42:52 -0400, Bible Bob <biblebob@saintly.com>
wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.

Why is it that members of the Baptist cult and the Methodist cult
attack the Jewhovah's Witness cult? Who are these people that attack
the Jehovah's Witnesses?


You once again prove that you don't know sound teaching or doctrine!
If you examined Jehovah's Witness teaching, the JWs teach that Jesus
was / is an ANGEL.

john w

jw,
So do the trinitarians.
Attack doctrines; not the people. It is fine to reprove a brother or
sister in Christ for wrong behavior contrary to the word of God. But
is is not okay to hate or mistreat a person because when the doctrine
you base the reproof on is false.
BB



If memory serves me right it has been people like Jason Gastridge,
John Wolf, John Weatherly, Carl McCasky, and checker - all
hyperreligious fundamentalist religionists - that post anti child of
God posts under the pretense of defending right docrines which are
really false doctrines.

1Co 6:15-17 KJV
15 Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I
then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an
harlot? God forbid.
16 What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one
body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.
17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.

2Co 3:17-18 KJV
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is,
there is liberty.
18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of
the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as
by the Spirit of the Lord.

Eph 4:1-6 KJV
1 I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk
worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called,
2 With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one
another in love;
3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one
hope of your calling;
5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and
in you all.

Members of the body of Christ which is the only true church of God
with Christ as its head orchestrating the activities of the body are
supposed to live in unity of the Spirit. Jesus said that people would
know that who his disciples are by their love one for another.

Joh 13:35 KJV
By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love
one to another.

Members of the body of Christ were directed by the head of the body;
Christ, to love one another.

Joh 13:34 KJV
A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have
loved you, that ye also love one another.

Joh 13:35 KJV
By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love
one to another.

Joh 15:12 KJV
This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.

Joh 15:17 KJV
These things I command you, that ye love one another.

Rom 12:10 KJV
Be kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour
preferring one another;

Rom 13:8 KJV
Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth
another hath fulfilled the law.

Gal 5:13 KJV
For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty
for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.

Eph 4:2 KJV
With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one
another in love;

1Th 3:12 KJV
And the Lord make you to increase and abound in love one toward
another, and toward all men, even as we do toward you:

1Th 4:9 KJV
But as touching brotherly love ye need not that I write unto you: for
ye yourselves are taught of God to love one another.

Heb 10:24 KJV
And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good
works:

1Pe 1:22 KJV
Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the
Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one
another with a pure heart fervently:

1Pe 3:8 KJV
Finally, be ye all of one mind, having compassion one of another, love
as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous:

1Jn 3:11 KJV
For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we
should love one another.

1Jn 3:23 KJV
And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his
Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.

1Jn 4:7 KJV
Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one
that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.

1Jn 4:11 KJV
Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another.

1Jn 4:12 KJV
No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth
in us, and his love is perfected in us.

2Jn 1:5 KJV
And now I beseech thee, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment
unto thee, but that which we had from the beginning, that we love one
another.

Who are these men who are casting stones at the Jehovah's Witnesses?
Are they disciples of Jesus Christ? Where is their love for one
another? That is the test of whether a person is a disciple. What
about their fruit; quality of life? What kind of fruit are they
producing by attacking the children of God? No one knows who is and
who is not a child of God in the Baptist, Methodist, or Jehovah's
Witness cults. Cults are cults ran by cult leaders and cult leaders
have followers who they have motivated to follow. The Baptists and
Methodists have just as much if not more false doctrines to correct
than the Jehovah's Witnesses. What makes the Baptists and Methodists
so special that they can unrighteously judge members of another chain
gang?

Of late I have been reading some of Carl's posts by some of his man
gods. In them I have seen the writers use phrases such as "true
Christian" to motivate their followers to think that only they are
true Christians and all else are false Christians. It's a lie and
just one example of the many false doctrines propagated by false
teachers who are schismatics. They even use the word Christian in the
wrong sense. A Christian is by definition a disciple of Jesus Christ;
not some idiot that goes to church and thinks himself holier than
thou.

I am thankful that I am not a member of any denominational sect led
about by Satan through false teachers to do harm to my brothers and
sisters in Christ.

BB

.
User: "john w"

Title: Re: Why All the Anti Jehovah's Witnesses Posts? 03 Jul 2007 12:51:42 PM
x-no-archive: yes
On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 08:48:39 -0400, Bible Bob <biblebob@saintly.com>
wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.

On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 18:55:59 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@yahoo.com>
wrote:

x-no-archive: yes
On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 19:42:52 -0400, Bible Bob <biblebob@saintly.com>
wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.

Why is it that members of the Baptist cult and the Methodist cult
attack the Jewhovah's Witness cult? Who are these people that attack
the Jehovah's Witnesses?


You once again prove that you don't know sound teaching or doctrine!
If you examined Jehovah's Witness teaching, the JWs teach that Jesus
was / is an ANGEL.

john w


jw,

So do the trinitarians.

Trinitarians do NOT teach that Jesus was / is an angel!


Attack doctrines; not the people.

I attack YOU when you refuse correction!

It is fine to reprove a brother or

sister in Christ

You are not a brother in Christ.
You are a pretender, and according to Galatians 1, whenever you post
your foolishness, your anti-Gospel rhetoric, I will confront you!
for wrong behavior contrary to the word of God.
I am not acting contrary to Gal 1. You are!
And don't quote scripture to me! Satan quotes scripture!
But

is is not okay to hate or mistreat a person because when the doctrine
you base the reproof on is false.

BB



If memory serves me right it has been people like Jason Gastridge,
John Wolf, John Weatherly, Carl McCasky, and checker - all
hyperreligious fundamentalist religionists - that post anti child of
God posts under the pretense of defending right docrines which are
really false doctrines.

1Co 6:15-17 KJV
15 Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I
then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an
harlot? God forbid.
16 What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one
body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.
17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.

2Co 3:17-18 KJV
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is,
there is liberty.
18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of
the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as
by the Spirit of the Lord.

Eph 4:1-6 KJV
1 I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk
worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called,
2 With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one
another in love;
3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one
hope of your calling;
5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and
in you all.

Members of the body of Christ which is the only true church of God
with Christ as its head orchestrating the activities of the body are
supposed to live in unity of the Spirit. Jesus said that people would
know that who his disciples are by their love one for another.

Joh 13:35 KJV
By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love
one to another.

Members of the body of Christ were directed by the head of the body;
Christ, to love one another.

Joh 13:34 KJV
A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have
loved you, that ye also love one another.

Joh 13:35 KJV
By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love
one to another.

Joh 15:12 KJV
This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.

Joh 15:17 KJV
These things I command you, that ye love one another.

Rom 12:10 KJV
Be kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour
preferring one another;

Rom 13:8 KJV
Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth
another hath fulfilled the law.

Gal 5:13 KJV
For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty
for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.

Eph 4:2 KJV
With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one
another in love;

1Th 3:12 KJV
And the Lord make you to increase and abound in love one toward
another, and toward all men, even as we do toward you:

1Th 4:9 KJV
But as touching brotherly love ye need not that I write unto you: for
ye yourselves are taught of God to love one another.

Heb 10:24 KJV
And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good
works:

1Pe 1:22 KJV
Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the
Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one
another with a pure heart fervently:

1Pe 3:8 KJV
Finally, be ye all of one mind, having compassion one of another, love
as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous:

1Jn 3:11 KJV
For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we
should love one another.

1Jn 3:23 KJV
And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his
Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.

1Jn 4:7 KJV
Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one
that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.

1Jn 4:11 KJV
Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another.

1Jn 4:12 KJV
No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth
in us, and his love is perfected in us.

2Jn 1:5 KJV
And now I beseech thee, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment
unto thee, but that which we had from the beginning, that we love one
another.

Who are these men who are casting stones at the Jehovah's Witnesses?
Are they disciples of Jesus Christ? Where is their love for one
another? That is the test of whether a person is a disciple. What
about their fruit; quality of life? What kind of fruit are they
producing by attacking the children of God? No one knows who is and
who is not a child of God in the Baptist, Methodist, or Jehovah's
Witness cults. Cults are cults ran by cult leaders and cult leaders
have followers who they have motivated to follow. The Baptists and
Methodists have just as much if not more false doctrines to correct
than the Jehovah's Witnesses. What makes the Baptists and Methodists
so special that they can unrighteously judge members of another chain
gang?

Of late I have been reading some of Carl's posts by some of his man
gods. In them I have seen the writers use phrases such as "true
Christian" to motivate their followers to think that only they are
true Christians and all else are false Christians. It's a lie and
just one example of the many false doctrines propagated by false
teachers who are schismatics. They even use the word Christian in the
wrong sense. A Christian is by definition a disciple of Jesus Christ;
not some idiot that goes to church and thinks himself holier than
thou.

I am thankful that I am not a member of any denominational sect led
about by Satan through false teachers to do harm to my brothers and
sisters in Christ.

BB

.
User: "bob young"

Title: Re: Why All the Anti Jehovah's Witnesses Posts? 04 Jul 2007 05:42:02 AM
"john w

x-no-archive: yes
On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 08:48:39 -0400, Bible Bob <biblebob@saintly.com>
wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.

On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 18:55:59 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@yahoo.com>
wrote:

x-no-archive: yes
On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 19:42:52 -0400, Bible Bob <biblebob@saintly.com>
wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.

Why is it that members of the Baptist cult and the Methodist cult
attack the Jewhovah's Witness cult? Who are these people that attack
the Jehovah's Witnesses?


You once again prove that you don't know sound teaching or doctrine!
If you examined Jehovah's Witness teaching, the JWs teach that Jesus
was / is an ANGEL.

john w


jw,

So do the trinitarians.


Trinitarians do NOT teach that Jesus was / is an angel!


Attack doctrines; not the people.


I attack YOU when you refuse correction!

It is fine to reprove a brother or

sister in Christ


You are not a brother in Christ.
You are a pretender, and according to Galatians 1, whenever you post
your foolishness, your anti-Gospel rhetoric, I will confront you!

"Christians, it is needless to say, utterly detest each other. They slander
each other constantly with the vilest forms of abuse and cannot come to any
sort of agreement in their teachings. Each sect brands its own, fills the
head of its own with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect little pigs of
those it wins over to its side."
[R.J.Hoffmann]



for wrong behavior contrary to the word of God.

I am not acting contrary to Gal 1. You are!

And don't quote scripture to me! Satan quotes scripture!

But

is is not okay to hate or mistreat a person because when the doctrine
you base the reproof on is false.

BB



If memory serves me right it has been people like Jason Gastridge,
John Wolf, John Weatherly, Carl McCasky, and checker - all
hyperreligious fundamentalist religionists - that post anti child of
God posts under the pretense of defending right docrines which are
really false doctrines.

1Co 6:15-17 KJV
15 Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I
then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an
harlot? God forbid.
16 What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one
body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.
17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.

2Co 3:17-18 KJV
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is,
there is liberty.
18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of
the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as
by the Spirit of the Lord.

Eph 4:1-6 KJV
1 I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk
worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called,
2 With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one
another in love;
3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one
hope of your calling;
5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and
in you all.

Members of the body of Christ which is the only true church of God
with Christ as its head orchestrating the activities of the body are
supposed to live in unity of the Spirit. Jesus said that people would
know that who his disciples are by their love one for another.

Joh 13:35 KJV
By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love
one to another.

Members of the body of Christ were directed by the head of the body;
Christ, to love one another.

Joh 13:34 KJV
A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have
loved you, that ye also love one another.

Joh 13:35 KJV
By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love
one to another.

Joh 15:12 KJV
This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.

Joh 15:17 KJV
These things I command you, that ye love one another.

Rom 12:10 KJV
Be kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour
preferring one another;

Rom 13:8 KJV
Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth
another hath fulfilled the law.

Gal 5:13 KJV
For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty
for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.

Eph 4:2 KJV
With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one
another in love;

1Th 3:12 KJV
And the Lord make you to increase and abound in love one toward
another, and toward all men, even as we do toward you:

1Th 4:9 KJV
But as touching brotherly love ye need not that I write unto you: for
ye yourselves are taught of God to love one another.

Heb 10:24 KJV
And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good
works:

1Pe 1:22 KJV
Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the
Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one
another with a pure heart fervently:

1Pe 3:8 KJV
Finally, be ye all of one mind, having compassion one of another, love
as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous:

1Jn 3:11 KJV
For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we
should love one another.

1Jn 3:23 KJV
And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his
Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.

1Jn 4:7 KJV
Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one
that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.

1Jn 4:11 KJV
Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another.

1Jn 4:12 KJV
No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth
in us, and his love is perfected in us.

2Jn 1:5 KJV
And now I beseech thee, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment
unto thee, but that which we had from the beginning, that we love one
another.

Who are these men who are casting stones at the Jehovah's Witnesses?
Are they disciples of Jesus Christ? Where is their love for one
another? That is the test of whether a person is a disciple. What
about their fruit; quality of life? What kind of fruit are they
producing by attacking the children of God? No one knows who is and
who is not a child of God in the Baptist, Methodist, or Jehovah's
Witness cults. Cults are cults ran by cult leaders and cult leaders
have followers who they have motivated to follow. The Baptists and
Methodists have just as much if not more false doctrines to correct
than the Jehovah's Witnesses. What makes the Baptists and Methodists
so special that they can unrighteously judge members of another chain
gang?

Of late I have been reading some of Carl's posts by some of his man
gods. In them I have seen the writers use phrases such as "true
Christian" to motivate their followers to think that only they are
true Christians and all else are false Christians. It's a lie and
just one example of the many false doctrines propagated by false
teachers who are schismatics. They even use the word Christian in the
wrong sense. A Christian is by definition a disciple of Jesus Christ;
not some idiot that goes to church and thinks himself holier than
thou.

I am thankful that I am not a member of any denominational sect led
about by Satan through false teachers to do harm to my brothers and
sisters in Christ.

BB

.
User: "Carl"

Title: Re: Why All the Anti Jehovah's Witnesses Posts? 04 Jul 2007 03:15:13 PM
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:468B7903.44B71959@netvigator.com...


"Christians, it is needless to say, utterly detest each other. They
slander
each other constantly with the vilest forms of abuse and cannot come to
any
sort of agreement in their teachings. Each sect brands its own, fills the
head of its own with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect little pigs of
those it wins over to its side."
[R.J.Hoffmann]

"R.J. Hoffman, it is needless to say, utterly detests Christians. He
slanders them with the volest forms of abuse and cannot come to any sort of
agreement with their teachings. He brands his own, fills the heads of his
own with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect little pigs of those he wins
over to his side."
Interesting how apt the statement becomes when Hoffman's name is attached.
While on the other hand, how illogical Hoffman's statement is due to the
sweeping overgeneralization it contains as well as his obvious contempt
making his whole premise moot.
May God bless,
Carl
my website -- http://www.nettally.com/saints/
my blog -- http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/
.
User: "john w"

Title: Re: Why All the Anti Jehovah's Witnesses Posts? 07 Jul 2007 02:17:49 PM
x-no-archive: yes
On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 16:15:13 -0400, "Carl" <saints@nettally.com> wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.


"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:468B7903.44B71959@netvigator.com...


"Christians, it is needless to say, utterly detest each other. They
slander
each other constantly with the vilest forms of abuse and cannot come to
any
sort of agreement in their teachings. Each sect brands its own, fills the
head of its own with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect little pigs of
those it wins over to its side."
[R.J.Hoffmann]


"R.J. Hoffman, it is needless to say, utterly detests Christians. He
slanders them with the volest forms of abuse and cannot come to any sort of
agreement with their teachings. He brands his own, fills the heads of his
own with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect little pigs of those he wins
over to his side."

Interesting how apt the statement becomes when Hoffman's name is attached.
While on the other hand, how illogical Hoffman's statement is due to the
sweeping overgeneralization it contains as well as his obvious contempt
making his whole premise moot.

smirk.
Carl, when you're right on...
john w


May God bless,
Carl
my website -- http://www.nettally.com/saints/
my blog -- http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/

.
User: "Bible Bob"

Title: Re: Why All the Anti Jehovah's Witnesses Posts? 07 Jul 2007 05:03:14 PM
On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 12:17:49 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@yahoo.com>
wrote:

x-no-archive: yes
On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 16:15:13 -0400, "Carl" <saints@nettally.com> wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.


"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:468B7903.44B71959@netvigator.com...


"Christians, it is needless to say, utterly detest each other. They
slander
each other constantly with the vilest forms of abuse and cannot come to
any
sort of agreement in their teachings. Each sect brands its own, fills the
head of its own with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect little pigs of
those it wins over to its side."
[R.J.Hoffmann]


"R.J. Hoffman, it is needless to say, utterly detests Christians. He
slanders them with the volest forms of abuse and cannot come to any sort of
agreement with their teachings. He brands his own, fills the heads of his
own with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect little pigs of those he wins
over to his side."

Interesting how apt the statement becomes