Religions > Bible > WHY Don't *Normal* Christians STRIKE BACK at the RRR Cult's Lies? The possible ANSWER!
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| User: |
"Craig Chilton" |
| Date: |
27 Apr 2004 07:33:09 PM |
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WHY Don't *Normal* Christians STRIKE BACK at the RRR Cult's Lies? The possible ANSWER! |
Eric Bohlman <ebohlman@earthlink.net>
Ninure Saunders
<RainbowChristiannohate@Rainbow-Christian.tk> wrote:
"SPQR" <PopUlist349@hotmail.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
WHY Don't *Normal* Christians STRIKE BACK
at the RRR Cult's Lies?
The sensible, fair-minded and tolerant CHRISTIANS in
America want **nothing** to do with the hateful agendas of
the ignorant, PSEUDO-Christian losers of the RRR Cult.
The former comprise about 99% of America's Chrisrians,
and the RRR cultists comprise less than the reamaining 1%.
Some of the 99% *passively* sympathize with some of the
RRR's objectives, but are FAIR enough to not so much as
lift a finger to help them.
And tens of millions of *actual*, non-RRR-cult Christians
are Pro-Choice with respect to abortion, and support the right
of gays to marry their same-sex partners. I'm just ONE of those
tens of millions of people, and i've been setting that example
in here for many years, now.
Please DON'T blame *actual* Christians for the loath-
some and ignorant hatefulness and bigotry of the cultists
who dishonestly pretend to be, or who have been CONNED
into thinking their stance is Biblical.
The Bible appointed NO Gestapo to attempt to enforce
its precepts (or worse, its MISperceived precepts) upon
society in general.
There is NOTHING Christian about the RRR Cult.
So -- tell me -- when do the REAL Christians stand up as
a group and denounce the radical "religious right?" So long as
they do not do so, they are complicit and are sinning by silence.
We just can't seem to get the press coverage and/or access
as the "religious" right.
When the so-called liberal press wants a "Christian" viewpoint,
do they contact the World Council of Churches?
The President of the United Churches of Christ?
The Society of Friends (Quakers)?
No, they don't contact anyone like them. They contact people
like Jerry Falwell, or Pat Ribertson. The Christian Coalition, and
the like.
We can scream our heads off..and sometimes we do, but
even YOU can't hear us if the press/media ignores us.
The possible ANSWER!
*MAJOR* kudos to Eric Bohlman, who either is very intuitive...
has done his media homework **exceptionally** WELL... is in a position
to *know* that of which he speaks so well below... or any combination
of those possibilities. He just may have nailed the **cause** of this
squarely on the head! He wrote:
I've got a very strong hunch as to why that is. The media have, in
recent decades, gotten extremely lazy and cheap. They expect others
to do their work for them. Why do you think so much time and space is
devoted to coverage of celebrities and entertainment? It's because the
celebrities' PR people deliver pre-packaged, almost-ready-to-run stories
to the media, stories that require only minor editing. Most of what today's
media runs is slightly gussied-up press releases. Even a lot of the news
is really just corporate or government PR (Reagan got to be the "Teflon
President" because the media knew that if they covered him favorably,
they'd have a steady diet of ready-to-run "stories" delivered to them
from the White House at little or no cost).
People like Falwell, Robertson, Dobson, et.al. *know* that. They've
got slick, cheap-to-run "news" packages ready for the media whenever
there's a controversy. Media outlets hardly need to spend any staff time
(and therefore money) to run the RRR response to a story. But the
mainline churches haven't yet bought into commercial PR culture.
They've got the old-fashioned expectation that the media are actually
going to have reporters contact them and do real interviews and shoot-
ing. IOW, expect the media to spend money covering the story. Things
ain't like that anymore.
Covering the RRR's perspective on a story is a simple matter of
making a phone call and then punching a couple of codes into a satellite
receiver. A few minutes later, you've got your footage. Covering the
mainline perspective involves sending out a whole crew, maybe putting
them in a hotel, directing, and editing. All by highly-paid staff. It's an easy
decision for a bottom-liner.
So the problem is really that the mainline and liberal churches have
to start marketing themselves as if they were selling cars or soft drinks.
They have to start doing what used to be the media's work for them.
They can't turn up their noses and sniff that Madison Avenue stuff is
beneath them, or inappropriate for a religion. The landscape's changed.
It's pretty disgusting, but it's the truth. In today's media culture, the only
ways to be a newsmaker are to commit a serious crime or to be a news
producer yourself.
So if, say, the UCC hopes to get its perspective on, say, what's going to
happen in MA on May 17 on national TV, it's gotta be prepared to call the
networks and say "We've got an interview with our president ready to
uplink to you. Here's the password to download all the time codes you
need to cut out our interviewer's audio and video and dub in your own
talking head, and the script for him to read."
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
INSIGHT on our Warmonger-in-Thief ---
http://homepage.mac.com/webmasterkai/kaicurry/gwbush/dishonestdubya.html
AND...
http://www.blackboxvoting.com/
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
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| User: "CB" |
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| Title: Re: WHY Don't *Normal* Christians STRIKE BACK at the RRR Cult's Lies? The possible ANSWER! |
27 Apr 2004 07:42:56 PM |
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"Craig Chilton" <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:409dfba4.19629417@netnews.mchsi.com...
Eric Bohlman <ebohlman@earthlink.net>
Ninure Saunders
<RainbowChristiannohate@Rainbow-Christian.tk> wrote:
"SPQR" <PopUlist349@hotmail.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
WHY Don't *Normal* Christians STRIKE BACK
at the RRR Cult's Lies?
Because their the once a week Christians who like normal Muslims prefer
apathy to action, Kinda like John Kerry being a summer soldier
--
CB
"These are the times that try men's souls: The summer soldier
and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the
service of his country; but he that stands it NOW, deserves the
love and thanks of man and woman." --Thomas Paine
John F'ing Kerry, Summer Soldier
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| User: "Rich Travsky" |
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| Title: Re: WHY Don't *Normal* Christians STRIKE BACK at the RRR Cult's Lies?The possible ANSWER! |
09 May 2004 09:15:24 PM |
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CB wrote:
"Craig Chilton" <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:409dfba4.19629417@netnews.mchsi.com...
Eric Bohlman <ebohlman@earthlink.net>
Ninure Saunders
<RainbowChristiannohate@Rainbow-Christian.tk> wrote:
"SPQR" <PopUlist349@hotmail.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
WHY Don't *Normal* Christians STRIKE BACK
at the RRR Cult's Lies?
Because their the once a week Christians who like normal Muslims prefer
apathy to action, Kinda like John Kerry being a summer soldier
How was Kerry a summer soldier, esp compared to Duhbya who couldn't
be accounted for, took time out to work on someone's campaign, and left early?
RT
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| User: "W3" |
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| Title: Re: WHY Don't *Normal* Christians STRIKE BACK at the RRR Cult's Lies?The possible ANSWER! |
27 Apr 2004 07:47:05 PM |
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Craig Chilton wrote:
Eric Bohlman <ebohlman@earthlink.net>
Ninure Saunders
<RainbowChristiannohate@Rainbow-Christian.tk> wrote:
"SPQR" <PopUlist349@hotmail.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
WHY Don't *Normal* Christians STRIKE BACK
at the RRR Cult's Lies?
The sensible, fair-minded and tolerant CHRISTIANS in
America want **nothing** to do with the hateful agendas of
the ignorant, PSEUDO-Christian losers of the RRR Cult.
The former comprise about 99% of America's Chrisrians,
and the RRR cultists comprise less than the reamaining 1%.
Some of the 99% *passively* sympathize with some of the
RRR's objectives, but are FAIR enough to not so much as
lift a finger to help them.
And tens of millions of *actual*, non-RRR-cult Christians
are Pro-Choice with respect to abortion, and support the right
of gays to marry their same-sex partners. I'm just ONE of those
tens of millions of people, and i've been setting that example
in here for many years, now.
Please DON'T blame *actual* Christians for the loath-
some and ignorant hatefulness and bigotry of the cultists
who dishonestly pretend to be, or who have been CONNED
into thinking their stance is Biblical.
The Bible appointed NO Gestapo to attempt to enforce
its precepts (or worse, its MISperceived precepts) upon
society in general.
There is NOTHING Christian about the RRR Cult.
So -- tell me -- when do the REAL Christians stand up as
a group and denounce the radical "religious right?" So long as
they do not do so, they are complicit and are sinning by silence.
We just can't seem to get the press coverage and/or access
as the "religious" right.
When the so-called liberal press wants a "Christian" viewpoint,
do they contact the World Council of Churches?
The President of the United Churches of Christ?
The Society of Friends (Quakers)?
No, they don't contact anyone like them. They contact people
like Jerry Falwell, or Pat Ribertson. The Christian Coalition, and
the like.
We can scream our heads off..and sometimes we do, but
even YOU can't hear us if the press/media ignores us.
The possible ANSWER!
*MAJOR* kudos to Eric Bohlman, who either is very intuitive...
has done his media homework **exceptionally** WELL... is in a position
to *know* that of which he speaks so well below... or any combination
of those possibilities. He just may have nailed the **cause** of this
squarely on the head! He wrote:
I've got a very strong hunch as to why that is. The media have, in
recent decades, gotten extremely lazy and cheap. They expect others
to do their work for them. Why do you think so much time and space is
devoted to coverage of celebrities and entertainment? It's because the
celebrities' PR people deliver pre-packaged, almost-ready-to-run stories
to the media, stories that require only minor editing. Most of what today's
media runs is slightly gussied-up press releases. Even a lot of the news
is really just corporate or government PR (Reagan got to be the "Teflon
President" because the media knew that if they covered him favorably,
they'd have a steady diet of ready-to-run "stories" delivered to them
from the White House at little or no cost).
People like Falwell, Robertson, Dobson, et.al. *know* that. They've
got slick, cheap-to-run "news" packages ready for the media whenever
there's a controversy. Media outlets hardly need to spend any staff time
(and therefore money) to run the RRR response to a story. But the
mainline churches haven't yet bought into commercial PR culture.
They've got the old-fashioned expectation that the media are actually
going to have reporters contact them and do real interviews and shoot-
ing. IOW, expect the media to spend money covering the story. Things
ain't like that anymore.
Covering the RRR's perspective on a story is a simple matter of
making a phone call and then punching a couple of codes into a satellite
receiver. A few minutes later, you've got your footage. Covering the
mainline perspective involves sending out a whole crew, maybe putting
them in a hotel, directing, and editing. All by highly-paid staff. It's an easy
decision for a bottom-liner.
So the problem is really that the mainline and liberal churches have
to start marketing themselves as if they were selling cars or soft drinks.
They have to start doing what used to be the media's work for them.
They can't turn up their noses and sniff that Madison Avenue stuff is
beneath them, or inappropriate for a religion. The landscape's changed.
It's pretty disgusting, but it's the truth. In today's media culture, the only
ways to be a newsmaker are to commit a serious crime or to be a news
producer yourself.
So if, say, the UCC hopes to get its perspective on, say, what's going to
happen in MA on May 17 on national TV, it's gotta be prepared to call the
networks and say "We've got an interview with our president ready to
uplink to you. Here's the password to download all the time codes you
need to cut out our interviewer's audio and video and dub in your own
talking head, and the script for him to read."
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
INSIGHT on our Warmonger-in-Thief ---
http://homepage.mac.com/webmasterkai/kaicurry/gwbush/dishonestdubya.html
AND...
http://www.blackboxvoting.com/
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Craig Chilton is a anal fag.
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| User: "Craig Chilton" |
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| Title: Re: WHY Don't *Normal* Christians STRIKE BACK at the RRR Cult's Lies? The possible ANSWER! |
27 Apr 2004 09:02:26 PM |
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On 27 Apr 2004 19:47:05 -0500,
Eric Bohlman <ebohlman@earthlink.net>
Ninure Saunders
<RainbowChristiannohate@Rainbow-Christian.tk> wrote:
"SPQR" <PopUlist349@hotmail.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
WHY Don't *Normal* Christians STRIKE BACK
at the RRR Cult's Lies?
The sensible, fair-minded and tolerant CHRISTIANS in
America want **nothing** to do with the hateful agendas of
the ignorant, PSEUDO-Christian losers of the RRR Cult.
The former comprise about 99% of America's Chrisrians,
and the RRR cultists comprise less than the reamaining 1%.
Some of the 99% *passively* sympathize with some of the
RRR's objectives, but are FAIR enough to not so much as
lift a finger to help them.
And tens of millions of *actual*, non-RRR-cult Christians
are Pro-Choice with respect to abortion, and support the right
of gays to marry their same-sex partners. I'm just ONE of those
tens of millions of people, and i've been setting that example
in here for many years, now.
Please DON'T blame *actual* Christians for the loath-
some and ignorant hatefulness and bigotry of the cultists
who dishonestly pretend to be, or who have been CONNED
into thinking their stance is Biblical.
The Bible appointed NO Gestapo to attempt to enforce
its precepts (or worse, its MISperceived precepts) upon
society in general.
There is NOTHING Christian about the RRR Cult.
So -- tell me -- when do the REAL Christians stand up as
a group and denounce the radical "religious right?" So long as
they do not do so, they are complicit and are sinning by silence.
We just can't seem to get the press coverage and/or access
as the "religious" right.
When the so-called liberal press wants a "Christian" viewpoint,
do they contact the World Council of Churches?
The President of the United Churches of Christ?
The Society of Friends (Quakers)?
No, they don't contact anyone like them. They contact people
like Jerry Falwell, or Pat Ribertson. The Christian Coalition, and
the like.
We can scream our heads off..and sometimes we do, but
even YOU can't hear us if the press/media ignores us.
The possible ANSWER!
*MAJOR* kudos to Eric Bohlman, who either is very intuitive...
has done his media homework **exceptionally** WELL... is in a position
to *know* that of which he speaks so well below... or any combination
of those possibilities. He just may have nailed the **cause** of this
squarely on the head! He wrote:
I've got a very strong hunch as to why that is. The media have, in
recent decades, gotten extremely lazy and cheap. They expect others
to do their work for them. Why do you think so much time and space is
devoted to coverage of celebrities and entertainment? It's because the
celebrities' PR people deliver pre-packaged, almost-ready-to-run stories
to the media, stories that require only minor editing. Most of what today's
media runs is slightly gussied-up press releases. Even a lot of the news
is really just corporate or government PR (Reagan got to be the "Teflon
President" because the media knew that if they covered him favorably,
they'd have a steady diet of ready-to-run "stories" delivered to them
from the White House at little or no cost).
People like Falwell, Robertson, Dobson, et.al. *know* that. They've
got slick, cheap-to-run "news" packages ready for the media whenever
there's a controversy. Media outlets hardly need to spend any staff time
(and therefore money) to run the RRR response to a story. But the
mainline churches haven't yet bought into commercial PR culture.
They've got the old-fashioned expectation that the media are actually
going to have reporters contact them and do real interviews and shoot-
ing. IOW, expect the media to spend money covering the story. Things
ain't like that anymore.
Covering the RRR's perspective on a story is a simple matter of
making a phone call and then punching a couple of codes into a satellite
receiver. A few minutes later, you've got your footage. Covering the
mainline perspective involves sending out a whole crew, maybe putting
them in a hotel, directing, and editing. All by highly-paid staff. It's an easy
decision for a bottom-liner.
So the problem is really that the mainline and liberal churches have
to start marketing themselves as if they were selling cars or soft drinks.
They have to start doing what used to be the media's work for them.
They can't turn up their noses and sniff that Madison Avenue stuff is
beneath them, or inappropriate for a religion. The landscape's changed.
It's pretty disgusting, but it's the truth. In today's media culture, the only
ways to be a newsmaker are to commit a serious crime or to be a news
producer yourself.
So if, say, the UCC hopes to get its perspective on, say, what's going to
happen in MA on May 17 on national TV, it's gotta be prepared to call the
networks and say "We've got an interview with our president ready to
uplink to you. Here's the password to download all the time codes you
need to cut out our interviewer's audio and video and dub in your own
talking head, and the script for him to read."
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
INSIGHT on our Warmonger-in-Thief ---
http://homepage.mac.com/webmasterkai/kaicurry/gwbush/dishonestdubya.html
AND...
http://www.blackboxvoting.com/
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
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| User: "Thomas Trust" |
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| Title: Re: WHY Don't *Normal* Christians STRIKE BACK at the RRR Cult's Lies? The possible ANSWER! |
27 Apr 2004 09:23:49 PM |
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"Craig Chilton" <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:40a510b9.25027067@netnews.mchsi.com...
WHY Don't *Normal* Christians STRIKE BACK
at the RRR Cult's Lies?
The only lies to strike back at are yours and those of your ilk.
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| User: "Craig Chilton" |
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| Title: Re: WHY Don't *Normal* Christians STRIKE BACK at the RRR Cult's Lies? The possible ANSWER! |
27 Apr 2004 09:45:43 PM |
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On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 02:23:49 GMT,
Ignorant Bigot,"Thomas Trust"
<ThomasTrust@newsworthy.com> spewed:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
WHY Don't *Normal* Christians STRIKE BACK
at the RRR Cult's Lies?
The only lies to strike back at are yours and those of your ilk.
Which **explains**, of course, why you ignorant and hateful bigots
are **NEVER** able to DISPROVE **any** of the many facts that we
present?
LOL!!! Go back to kindergarten. You have a LOT to learn, petty
little hate-monger.
As I was saying before your INANE and fact-free interruption ---
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Eric Bohlman <ebohlman@earthlink.net>
Ninure Saunders
<RainbowChristiannohate@Rainbow-Christian.tk> wrote:
"SPQR" <PopUlist349@hotmail.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
WHY Don't *Normal* Christians STRIKE BACK
at the RRR Cult's Lies?
The sensible, fair-minded and tolerant CHRISTIANS in
America want **nothing** to do with the hateful agendas of
the ignorant, PSEUDO-Christian losers of the RRR Cult.
The former comprise about 99% of America's Chrisrians,
and the RRR cultists comprise less than the reamaining 1%.
Some of the 99% *passively* sympathize with some of the
RRR's objectives, but are FAIR enough to not so much as
lift a finger to help them.
And tens of millions of *actual*, non-RRR-cult Christians
are Pro-Choice with respect to abortion, and support the right
of gays to marry their same-sex partners. I'm just ONE of those
tens of millions of people, and i've been setting that example
in here for many years, now.
Please DON'T blame *actual* Christians for the loath-
some and ignorant hatefulness and bigotry of the cultists
who dishonestly pretend to be, or who have been CONNED
into thinking their stance is Biblical.
The Bible appointed NO Gestapo to attempt to enforce
its precepts (or worse, its MISperceived precepts) upon
society in general.
There is NOTHING Christian about the RRR Cult.
So -- tell me -- when do the REAL Christians stand up as
a group and denounce the radical "religious right?" So long as
they do not do so, they are complicit and are sinning by silence.
We just can't seem to get the press coverage and/or access
as the "religious" right.
When the so-called liberal press wants a "Christian" viewpoint,
do they contact the World Council of Churches?
The President of the United Churches of Christ?
The Society of Friends (Quakers)?
No, they don't contact anyone like them. They contact people
like Jerry Falwell, or Pat Ribertson. The Christian Coalition, and
the like.
We can scream our heads off..and sometimes we do, but
even YOU can't hear us if the press/media ignores us.
The possible ANSWER!
*MAJOR* kudos to Eric Bohlman, who either is very intuitive...
has done his media homework **exceptionally** WELL... is in a position
to *know* that of which he speaks so well below... or any combination
of those possibilities. He just may have nailed the **cause** of this
squarely on the head! He wrote:
I've got a very strong hunch as to why that is. The media have, in
recent decades, gotten extremely lazy and cheap. They expect others
to do their work for them. Why do you think so much time and space is
devoted to coverage of celebrities and entertainment? It's because the
celebrities' PR people deliver pre-packaged, almost-ready-to-run stories
to the media, stories that require only minor editing. Most of what today's
media runs is slightly gussied-up press releases. Even a lot of the news
is really just corporate or government PR (Reagan got to be the "Teflon
President" because the media knew that if they covered him favorably,
they'd have a steady diet of ready-to-run "stories" delivered to them
from the White House at little or no cost).
People like Falwell, Robertson, Dobson, et.al. *know* that. They've
got slick, cheap-to-run "news" packages ready for the media whenever
there's a controversy. Media outlets hardly need to spend any staff time
(and therefore money) to run the RRR response to a story. But the
mainline churches haven't yet bought into commercial PR culture.
They've got the old-fashioned expectation that the media are actually
going to have reporters contact them and do real interviews and shoot-
ing. IOW, expect the media to spend money covering the story. Things
ain't like that anymore.
Covering the RRR's perspective on a story is a simple matter of
making a phone call and then punching a couple of codes into a satellite
receiver. A few minutes later, you've got your footage. Covering the
mainline perspective involves sending out a whole crew, maybe putting
them in a hotel, directing, and editing. All by highly-paid staff. It's an easy
decision for a bottom-liner.
So the problem is really that the mainline and liberal churches have
to start marketing themselves as if they were selling cars or soft drinks.
They have to start doing what used to be the media's work for them.
They can't turn up their noses and sniff that Madison Avenue stuff is
beneath them, or inappropriate for a religion. The landscape's changed.
It's pretty disgusting, but it's the truth. In today's media culture, the only
ways to be a newsmaker are to commit a serious crime or to be a news
producer yourself.
So if, say, the UCC hopes to get its perspective on, say, what's going to
happen in MA on May 17 on national TV, it's gotta be prepared to call the
networks and say "We've got an interview with our president ready to
uplink to you. Here's the password to download all the time codes you
need to cut out our interviewer's audio and video and dub in your own
talking head, and the script for him to read."
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
INSIGHT on our Warmonger-in-Thief ---
http://homepage.mac.com/webmasterkai/kaicurry/gwbush/dishonestdubya.html
AND...
http://www.blackboxvoting.com/
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
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| User: "Thomas Trust" |
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| Title: Re: WHY Don't *Normal* Christians STRIKE BACK at the RRR Cult's Lies? The possible ANSWER! |
27 Apr 2004 09:54:07 PM |
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"Craig Chilton" <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:40ad19dc.27366846@netnews.mchsi.com...
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 02:23:49 GMT,
Ignorant Bigot,"Thomas Trust"
<ThomasTrust@newsworthy.com> spewed:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
WHY Don't *Normal* Christians STRIKE BACK
at the RRR Cult's Lies?
The only lies to strike back at are yours and those of your ilk.
Which **explains**, of course, why you ignorant and hateful bigots
are **NEVER** able to DISPROVE **any** of the many facts that we
present?
You see folks, Chilton doesn't even realize the irony of his post!
LOL!
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| User: "Craig Chilton" |
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| Title: Re: WHY Don't *Normal* Christians STRIKE BACK at the RRR Cult's Lies? The possible ANSWER! |
27 Apr 2004 10:34:25 PM |
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On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 02:54:07 GMT,
Ignorant Bigot,"Thomas Trust"
<ThomasTrust@newsworthy.com> spewed:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
WHY Don't *Normal* Christians STRIKE BACK
at the RRR Cult's Lies?
The only lies to strike back at are yours and those of your ilk.
Which **explains**, of course, why you ignorant and hateful bigots
are **NEVER** able to DISPROVE **any** of the many facts that we
present?
LOL!!! Go back to kindergarten. You have a LOT to learn,
petty little hate-monger. And AGAIN, you contributed nothing but
substanceless lies.
As I was saying before your INANE and fact-free interruption ---
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
Eric Bohlman <ebohlman@earthlink.net>
Ninure Saunders
<RainbowChristiannohate@Rainbow-Christian.tk> wrote:
"SPQR" <PopUlist349@hotmail.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
WHY Don't *Normal* Christians STRIKE BACK
at the RRR Cult's Lies?
The sensible, fair-minded and tolerant CHRISTIANS in
America want **nothing** to do with the hateful agendas of
the ignorant, PSEUDO-Christian losers of the RRR Cult.
The former comprise about 99% of America's Chrisrians,
and the RRR cultists comprise less than the reamaining 1%.
Some of the 99% *passively* sympathize with some of the
RRR's objectives, but are FAIR enough to not so much as
lift a finger to help them.
And tens of millions of *actual*, non-RRR-cult Christians
are Pro-Choice with respect to abortion, and support the right
of gays to marry their same-sex partners. I'm just ONE of those
tens of millions of people, and i've been setting that example
in here for many years, now.
Please DON'T blame *actual* Christians for the loath-
some and ignorant hatefulness and bigotry of the cultists
who dishonestly pretend to be, or who have been CONNED
into thinking their stance is Biblical.
The Bible appointed NO Gestapo to attempt to enforce
its precepts (or worse, its MISperceived precepts) upon
society in general.
There is NOTHING Christian about the RRR Cult.
So -- tell me -- when do the REAL Christians stand up as
a group and denounce the radical "religious right?" So long as
they do not do so, they are complicit and are sinning by silence.
We just can't seem to get the press coverage and/or access
as the "religious" right.
When the so-called liberal press wants a "Christian" viewpoint,
do they contact the World Council of Churches?
The President of the United Churches of Christ?
The Society of Friends (Quakers)?
No, they don't contact anyone like them. They contact people
like Jerry Falwell, or Pat Ribertson. The Christian Coalition, and
the like.
We can scream our heads off..and sometimes we do, but
even YOU can't hear us if the press/media ignores us.
The possible ANSWER!
*MAJOR* kudos to Eric Bohlman, who either is very intuitive...
has done his media homework **exceptionally** WELL... is in a position
to *know* that of which he speaks so well below... or any combination
of those possibilities. He just may have nailed the **cause** of this
squarely on the head! He wrote:
I've got a very strong hunch as to why that is. The media have, in
recent decades, gotten extremely lazy and cheap. They expect others
to do their work for them. Why do you think so much time and space is
devoted to coverage of celebrities and entertainment? It's because the
celebrities' PR people deliver pre-packaged, almost-ready-to-run stories
to the media, stories that require only minor editing. Most of what today's
media runs is slightly gussied-up press releases. Even a lot of the news
is really just corporate or government PR (Reagan got to be the "Teflon
President" because the media knew that if they covered him favorably,
they'd have a steady diet of ready-to-run "stories" delivered to them
from the White House at little or no cost).
People like Falwell, Robertson, Dobson, et.al. *know* that. They've
got slick, cheap-to-run "news" packages ready for the media whenever
there's a controversy. Media outlets hardly need to spend any staff time
(and therefore money) to run the RRR response to a story. But the
mainline churches haven't yet bought into commercial PR culture.
They've got the old-fashioned expectation that the media are actually
going to have reporters contact them and do real interviews and shoot-
ing. IOW, expect the media to spend money covering the story. Things
ain't like that anymore.
Covering the RRR's perspective on a story is a simple matter of
making a phone call and then punching a couple of codes into a satellite
receiver. A few minutes later, you've got your footage. Covering the
mainline perspective involves sending out a whole crew, maybe putting
them in a hotel, directing, and editing. All by highly-paid staff. It's an easy
decision for a bottom-liner.
So the problem is really that the mainline and liberal churches have
to start marketing themselves as if they were selling cars or soft drinks.
They have to start doing what used to be the media's work for them.
They can't turn up their noses and sniff that Madison Avenue stuff is
beneath them, or inappropriate for a religion. The landscape's changed.
It's pretty disgusting, but it's the truth. In today's media culture, the only
ways to be a newsmaker are to commit a serious crime or to be a news
producer yourself.
So if, say, the UCC hopes to get its perspective on, say, what's going to
happen in MA on May 17 on national TV, it's gotta be prepared to call the
networks and say "We've got an interview with our president ready to
uplink to you. Here's the password to download all the time codes you
need to cut out our interviewer's audio and video and dub in your own
talking head, and the script for him to read."
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
INSIGHT on our Warmonger-in-Thief ---
http://homepage.mac.com/webmasterkai/kaicurry/gwbush/dishonestdubya.html
AND...
http://www.blackboxvoting.com/
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
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27 Apr 2004 11:18:38 PM |
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"Craig Chilton" <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:40c52626.30513142@netnews.mchsi.com...
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 02:54:07 GMT,
Ignorant Bigot,"Thomas Trust"
<ThomasTrust@newsworthy.com> spewed:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
WHY Don't *Normal* Christians STRIKE BACK
at the RRR Cult's Lies?
The only lies to strike back at are yours and those of your ilk.
Which **explains**, of course, why you ignorant and hateful bigots
are **NEVER** able to DISPROVE **any** of the many facts that we
present?
LOL!!! Go back to kindergarten. You have a LOT to learn,
petty little hate-monger. And AGAIN, you contributed nothing but
substanceless lies.
As I was saying before your INANE and fact-free interruption ---
Repeating those Chilton lies doesn't make them more true.......
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| User: "Craig Chilton" |
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| Title: Re: WHY Don't *Normal* Christians STRIKE BACK at the RRR Cult's Lies? The possible ANSWER! |
28 Apr 2004 01:11:15 AM |
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On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 04:18:38 GMT,
Ignorant Bigot,"Thomas Trust"
<ThomasTrust@newsworthy.com> spewed:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
WHY Don't *Normal* Christians STRIKE BACK
at the RRR Cult's Lies?
The only lies to strike back at are yours and those of your ilk.
Which **explains**, of course, why you ignorant and hateful bigots
are **NEVER** able to DISPROVE **any** of the many facts that we
present?
LOL!!! Go back to kindergarten. You have a LOT to learn,
petty little hate-monger. And AGAIN, you contributed nothing but
substanceless lies.
As I was saying before your INANE and fact-free interruption ---
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
Eric Bohlman <ebohlman@earthlink.net>
Ninure Saunders
<RainbowChristiannohate@Rainbow-Christian.tk> wrote:
"SPQR" <PopUlist349@hotmail.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
WHY Don't *Normal* Christians STRIKE BACK
at the RRR Cult's Lies?
The sensible, fair-minded and tolerant CHRISTIANS in
America want **nothing** to do with the hateful agendas of
the ignorant, PSEUDO-Christian losers of the RRR Cult.
The former comprise about 99% of America's Chrisrians,
and the RRR cultists comprise less than the reamaining 1%.
Some of the 99% *passively* sympathize with some of the
RRR's objectives, but are FAIR enough to not so much as
lift a finger to help them.
And tens of millions of *actual*, non-RRR-cult Christians
are Pro-Choice with respect to abortion, and support the right
of gays to marry their same-sex partners. I'm just ONE of those
tens of millions of people, and i've been setting that example
in here for many years, now.
Please DON'T blame *actual* Christians for the loath-
some and ignorant hatefulness and bigotry of the cultists
who dishonestly pretend to be, or who have been CONNED
into thinking their stance is Biblical.
The Bible appointed NO Gestapo to attempt to enforce
its precepts (or worse, its MISperceived precepts) upon
society in general.
There is NOTHING Christian about the RRR Cult.
So -- tell me -- when do the REAL Christians stand up as
a group and denounce the radical "religious right?" So long as
they do not do so, they are complicit and are sinning by silence.
We just can't seem to get the press coverage and/or access
as the "religious" right.
When the so-called liberal press wants a "Christian" viewpoint,
do they contact the World Council of Churches?
The President of the United Churches of Christ?
The Society of Friends (Quakers)?
No, they don't contact anyone like them. They contact people
like Jerry Falwell, or Pat Ribertson. The Christian Coalition, and
the like.
We can scream our heads off..and sometimes we do, but
even YOU can't hear us if the press/media ignores us.
The possible ANSWER!
*MAJOR* kudos to Eric Bohlman, who either is very intuitive...
has done his media homework **exceptionally** WELL... is in a position
to *know* that of which he speaks so well below... or any combination
of those possibilities. He just may have nailed the **cause** of this
squarely on the head! He wrote:
I've got a very strong hunch as to why that is. The media have, in
recent decades, gotten extremely lazy and cheap. They expect others
to do their work for them. Why do you think so much time and space is
devoted to coverage of celebrities and entertainment? It's because the
celebrities' PR people deliver pre-packaged, almost-ready-to-run stories
to the media, stories that require only minor editing. Most of what today's
media runs is slightly gussied-up press releases. Even a lot of the news
is really just corporate or government PR (Reagan got to be the "Teflon
President" because the media knew that if they covered him favorably,
they'd have a steady diet of ready-to-run "stories" delivered to them
from the White House at little or no cost).
People like Falwell, Robertson, Dobson, et.al. *know* that. They've
got slick, cheap-to-run "news" packages ready for the media whenever
there's a controversy. Media outlets hardly need to spend any staff time
(and therefore money) to run the RRR response to a story. But the
mainline churches haven't yet bought into commercial PR culture.
They've got the old-fashioned expectation that the media are actually
going to have reporters contact them and do real interviews and shoot-
ing. IOW, expect the media to spend money covering the story. Things
ain't like that anymore.
Covering the RRR's perspective on a story is a simple matter of
making a phone call and then punching a couple of codes into a satellite
receiver. A few minutes later, you've got your footage. Covering the
mainline perspective involves sending out a whole crew, maybe putting
them in a hotel, directing, and editing. All by highly-paid staff. It's an easy
decision for a bottom-liner.
So the problem is really that the mainline and liberal churches have
to start marketing themselves as if they were selling cars or soft drinks.
They have to start doing what used to be the media's work for them.
They can't turn up their noses and sniff that Madison Avenue stuff is
beneath them, or inappropriate for a religion. The landscape's changed.
It's pretty disgusting, but it's the truth. In today's media culture, the only
ways to be a newsmaker are to commit a serious crime or to be a news
producer yourself.
So if, say, the UCC hopes to get its perspective on, say, what's going to
happen in MA on May 17 on national TV, it's gotta be prepared to call the
networks and say "We've got an interview with our president ready to
uplink to you. Here's the password to download all the time codes you
need to cut out our interviewer's audio and video and dub in your own
talking head, and the script for him to read."
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
INSIGHT on our Warmonger-in-Thief ---
http://homepage.mac.com/webmasterkai/kaicurry/gwbush/dishonestdubya.html
AND...
http://www.blackboxvoting.com/
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
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| User: "Thomas Trust" |
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| Title: Re: WHY Don't *Normal* Christians STRIKE BACK at the RRR Cult's Lies? The possible ANSWER! |
28 Apr 2004 01:58:25 AM |
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"Craig Chilton" <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:40914b00.7937350@netnews.mchsi.com...
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 04:18:38 GMT,
Ignorant Bigot,"Thomas Trust"
<ThomasTrust@newsworthy.com> spewed:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
WHY Don't *Normal* Christians STRIKE BACK
at the RRR Cult's Lies?
The only lies to strike back at are yours and those of your ilk.
Which **explains**, of course, why you ignorant and hateful bigots
are **NEVER** able to DISPROVE **any** of the many facts that we
present?
LOL!!! Go back to kindergarten. You have a LOT to learn,
petty little hate-monger. And AGAIN, you contributed nothing but
substanceless lies.
As I was saying before your INANE and fact-free interruption ---
Chilton want a cracker?
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| User: "Craig Chilton" |
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| Title: Re: WHY Don't *Normal* Christians STRIKE BACK at the RRR Cult's Lies? The possible ANSWER! |
28 Apr 2004 06:32:11 AM |
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On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 06:58:25 GMT,
Ignorant Bigot,"Thomas Trust"
<ThomasTrust@newsworthy.com> spewed:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
WHY Don't *Normal* Christians STRIKE BACK
at the RRR Cult's Lies?
The only lies to strike back at are yours and those of your ilk.
Which **explains**, of course, why you ignorant and hateful bigots
are **NEVER** able to DISPROVE **any** of the many facts that we
present?
LOL!!! Go back to kindergarten. You have a LOT to learn,
petty little hate-monger. And THIS time, you merely showed your
omability even to provide the SLIGHTEST response of substance.
As I was saying before your INANE and fact-free interruption ---
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
Eric Bohlman <ebohlman@earthlink.net>
Ninure Saunders
<RainbowChristiannohate@Rainbow-Christian.tk> wrote:
"SPQR" <PopUlist349@hotmail.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
WHY Don't *Normal* Christians STRIKE BACK
at the RRR Cult's Lies?
The sensible, fair-minded and tolerant CHRISTIANS in
America want **nothing** to do with the hateful agendas of
the ignorant, PSEUDO-Christian losers of the RRR Cult.
The former comprise about 99% of America's Chrisrians,
and the RRR cultists comprise less than the reamaining 1%.
Some of the 99% *passively* sympathize with some of the
RRR's objectives, but are FAIR enough to not so much as
lift a finger to help them.
And tens of millions of *actual*, non-RRR-cult Christians
are Pro-Choice with respect to abortion, and support the right
of gays to marry their same-sex partners. I'm just ONE of those
tens of millions of people, and i've been setting that example
in here for many years, now.
Please DON'T blame *actual* Christians for the loath-
some and ignorant hatefulness and bigotry of the cultists
who dishonestly pretend to be, or who have been CONNED
into thinking their stance is Biblical.
The Bible appointed NO Gestapo to attempt to enforce
its precepts (or worse, its MISperceived precepts) upon
society in general.
There is NOTHING Christian about the RRR Cult.
So -- tell me -- when do the REAL Christians stand up as
a group and denounce the radical "religious right?" So long as
they do not do so, they are complicit and are sinning by silence.
We just can't seem to get the press coverage and/or access
as the "religious" right.
When the so-called liberal press wants a "Christian" viewpoint,
do they contact the World Council of Churches?
The President of the United Churches of Christ?
The Society of Friends (Quakers)?
No, they don't contact anyone like them. They contact people
like Jerry Falwell, or Pat Ribertson. The Christian Coalition, and
the like.
We can scream our heads off..and sometimes we do, but
even YOU can't hear us if the press/media ignores us.
The possible ANSWER!
*MAJOR* kudos to Eric Bohlman, who either is very intuitive...
has done his media homework **exceptionally** WELL... is in a position
to *know* that of which he speaks so well below... or any combination
of those possibilities. He just may have nailed the **cause** of this
squarely on the head! He wrote:
I've got a very strong hunch as to why that is. The media have, in
recent decades, gotten extremely lazy and cheap. They expect others
to do their work for them. Why do you think so much time and space is
devoted to coverage of celebrities and entertainment? It's because the
celebrities' PR people deliver pre-packaged, almost-ready-to-run stories
to the media, stories that require only minor editing. Most of what today's
media runs is slightly gussied-up press releases. Even a lot of the news
is really just corporate or government PR (Reagan got to be the "Teflon
President" because the media knew that if they covered him favorably,
they'd have a steady diet of ready-to-run "stories" delivered to them
from the White House at little or no cost).
People like Falwell, Robertson, Dobson, et.al. *know* that. They've
got slick, cheap-to-run "news" packages ready for the media whenever
there's a controversy. Media outlets hardly need to spend any staff time
(and therefore money) to run the RRR response to a story. But the
mainline churches haven't yet bought into commercial PR culture.
They've got the old-fashioned expectation that the media are actually
going to have reporters contact them and do real interviews and shoot-
ing. IOW, expect the media to spend money covering the story. Things
ain't like that anymore.
Covering the RRR's perspective on a story is a simple matter of
making a phone call and then punching a couple of codes into a satellite
receiver. A few minutes later, you've got your footage. Covering the
mainline perspective involves sending out a whole crew, maybe putting
them in a hotel, directing, and editing. All by highly-paid staff. It's an easy
decision for a bottom-liner.
So the problem is really that the mainline and liberal churches have
to start marketing themselves as if they were selling cars or soft drinks.
They have to start doing what used to be the media's work for them.
They can't turn up their noses and sniff that Madison Avenue stuff is
beneath them, or inappropriate for a religion. The landscape's changed.
It's pretty disgusting, but it's the truth. In today's media culture, the only
ways to be a newsmaker are to commit a serious crime or to be a news
producer yourself.
So if, say, the UCC hopes to get its perspective on, say, what's going to
happen in MA on May 17 on national TV, it's gotta be prepared to call the
networks and say "We've got an interview with our president ready to
uplink to you. Here's the password to download all the time codes you
need to cut out our interviewer's audio and video and dub in your own
talking head, and the script for him to read."
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
INSIGHT on our Warmonger-in-Thief ---
http://homepage.mac.com/webmasterkai/kaicurry/gwbush/dishonestdubya.html
AND...
http://www.blackboxvoting.com/
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
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| Title: Re: WHY Don't *Normal* Christians STRIKE BACK at the RRR Cult's Lies? The possible ANSWER! |
28 Apr 2004 01:58:03 AM |
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"Craig Chilton" <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:40914b00.7937350@netnews.mchsi.com...
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 04:18:38 GMT,
Ignorant Bigot,"Thomas Trust"
<ThomasTrust@newsworthy.com> spewed:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
WHY Don't *Normal* Christians STRIKE BACK
at the RRR Cult's Lies?
The only lies to strike back at are yours and those of your ilk.
Which **explains**, of course, why you ignorant and hateful bigots
are **NEVER** able to DISPROVE **any** of the many facts that we
present?
LOL!!! Go back to kindergarten. You have a LOT to learn,
petty little hate-monger. And AGAIN, you contributed nothing but
substanceless lies.
As I was saying before your INANE and fact-free interruption ---
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
Eric Bohlman <ebohlman@earthlink.net>
Ninure Saunders
<RainbowChristiannohate@Rainbow-Christian.tk> wrote:
"SPQR" <PopUlist349@hotmail.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
WHY Don't *Normal* Christians STRIKE BACK
at the RRR Cult's Lies?
The sensible, fair-minded and tolerant CHRISTIANS in
America want **nothing** to do with the hateful agendas of
the ignorant, PSEUDO-Christian losers of the RRR Cult.
The former comprise about 99% of America's Chrisrians,
and the RRR cultists comprise less than the reamaining 1%.
Some of the 99% *passively* sympathize with some of the
RRR's objectives, but are FAIR enough to not so much as
lift a finger to help them.
And tens of millions of *actual*, non-RRR-cult Christians
are Pro-Choice with respect to abortion, and support the right
of gays to marry their same-sex partners. I'm just ONE of those
tens of millions of people, and i've been setting that example
in here for many years, now.
Please DON'T blame *actual* Christians for the loath-
some and ignorant hatefulness and bigotry of the cultists
who dishonestly pretend to be, or who have been CONNED
into thinking their stance is Biblical.
The Bible appointed NO Gestapo to attempt to enforce
its precepts (or worse, its MISperceived precepts) upon
society in general.
There is NOTHING Christian about the RRR Cult.
So -- tell me -- when do the REAL Christians stand up as
a group and denounce the radical "religious right?" So long as
they do not do so, they are complicit and are sinning by silence.
We just can't seem to get the press coverage and/or access
as the "religious" right.
When the so-called liberal press wants a "Christian" viewpoint,
do they contact the World Council of Churches?
The President of the United Churches of Christ?
The Society of Friends (Quakers)?
No, they don't contact anyone like them. They contact people
like Jerry Falwell, or Pat Ribertson. The Christian Coalition, and
the like.
We can scream our heads off..and sometimes we do, but
even YOU can't hear us if the press/media ignores us.
The possible ANSWER!
*MAJOR* kudos to Eric Bohlman, who either is very intuitive...
has done his media homework **exceptionally** WELL... is in a position
to *know* that of which he speaks so well below... or any combination
of those possibilities. He just may have nailed the **cause** of this
squarely on the head! He wrote:
I've got a very strong hunch as to why that is. The media have, in
recent decades, gotten extremely lazy and cheap. They expect others
to do their work for them. Why do you think so much time and space is
devoted to coverage of celebrities and entertainment? It's because the
celebrities' PR people deliver pre-packaged, almost-ready-to-run stories
to the media, stories that require only minor editing. Most of what
today's
media runs is slightly gussied-up press releases. Even a lot of the
news
is really just corporate or government PR (Reagan got to be the "Teflon
President" because the media knew that if they covered him favorably,
they'd have a steady diet of ready-to-run "stories" delivered to them
from the White House at little or no cost).
People like Falwell, Robertson, Dobson, et.al. *know* that. They've
got slick, cheap-to-run "news" packages ready for the media whenever
there's a controversy. Media outlets hardly need to spend any staff
time
(and therefore money) to run the RRR response to a story. But the
mainline churches haven't yet bought into commercial PR culture.
They've got the old-fashioned expectation that the media are actually
going to have reporters contact them and do real interviews and shoot-
ing. IOW, expect the media to spend money covering the story. Things
ain't like that anymore.
Covering the RRR's perspective on a story is a simple matter of
making a phone call and then punching a couple of codes into a satellite
receiver. A few minutes later, you've got your footage. Covering the
mainline perspective involves sending out a whole crew, maybe putting
them in a hotel, directing, and editing. All by highly-paid staff.
It's an easy
decision for a bottom-liner.
So the problem is really that the mainline and liberal churches have
to start marketing themselves as if they were selling cars or soft
drinks.
They have to start doing what used to be the media's work for them.
They can't turn up their noses and sniff that Madison Avenue stuff is
beneath them, or inappropriate for a religion. The landscape's changed.
It's pretty disgusting, but it's the truth. In today's media culture,
the only
ways to be a newsmaker are to commit a serious crime or to be a news
producer yourself.
So if, say, the UCC hopes to get its perspective on, say, what's
going to
happen in MA on May 17 on national TV, it's gotta be prepared to call
the
networks and say "We've got an interview with our president ready to
uplink to you. Here's the password to download all the time codes you
need to cut out our interviewer's audio and video and dub in your own
talking head, and the script for him to read."
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
INSIGHT on our Warmonger-in-Thief ---
http://homepage.mac.com/webmasterkai/kaicurry/gwbush/dishonestdubya.html
AND...
http://www.blackboxvoting.com/
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
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| Title: Re: WHY Don't *Normal* Christians STRIKE BACK at the RRR Cult's Lies? The possible ANSWER! |
28 Apr 2004 08:46:08 AM |
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On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 00:33:09 GMT,
(Craig Chilton) spake thusly:
Eric Bohlman <ebohlman@earthlink.net>
Ninure Saunders
<RainbowChristiannohate@Rainbow-Christian.tk> wrote:
"SPQR" <PopUlist349@hotmail.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton < > wrote:
WHY Don't *Normal* Christians STRIKE BACK
at the RRR Cult's Lies?
The sensible, fair-minded and tolerant CHRISTIANS in
America want **nothing** to do with the hateful agendas of
the ignorant, PSEUDO-Christian losers of the RRR Cult.
The former comprise about 99% of America's Chrisrians,
and the RRR cultists comprise less than the reamaining 1%.
Some of the 99% *passively* sympathize with some of the
RRR's objectives, but are FAIR enough to not so much as
lift a finger to help them.
And tens of millions of *actual*, non-RRR-cult Christians
are Pro-Choice with respect to abortion, and support the right
of gays to marry their same-sex partners. I'm just ONE of those
tens of millions of people, and i've been setting that example
in here for many years, now.
Please DON'T blame *actual* Christians for the loath-
some and ignorant hatefulness and bigotry of the cultists
who dishonestly pretend to be, or who have been CONNED
into thinking their stance is Biblical.
The Bible appointed NO Gestapo to attempt to enforce
its precepts (or worse, its MISperceived precepts) upon
society in general.
There is NOTHING Christian about the RRR Cult.
So -- tell me -- when do the REAL Christians stand up as
a group and denounce the radical "religious right?" So long as
they do not do so, they are complicit and are sinning by silence.
We just can't seem to get the press coverage and/or access
as the "religious" right.
When the so-called liberal press wants a "Christian" viewpoint,
do they contact the World Council of Churches?
The President of the United Churches of Christ?
The Society of Friends (Quakers)?
No, they don't contact anyone like them. They contact people
like Jerry Falwell, or Pat Ribertson. The Christian Coalition, and
the like.
We can scream our heads off..and sometimes we do, but
even YOU can't hear us if the press/media ignores us.
The possible ANSWER!
*MAJOR* kudos to Eric Bohlman, who either is very intuitive...
has done his media homework **exceptionally** WELL... is in a position
to *know* that of which he speaks so well below... or any combination
of those possibilities. He just may have nailed the **cause** of this
squarely on the head! He wrote:
The media is very much slanted to the left. I'm very slanted to the
RIGHT. That is a
fact that prompted the book, "BIAS".
--
± Pastor Dave ±
"As for me, I have not hastened from being a pastor
to follow thee: neither have I desired the woeful day;
thou knowest: that which came out of my lips was right
before thee." - Jeremiah 17:16
It is often argued that religion is valuable because it makes men good,
but even if this were true it would not be a proof that religion is true.
That would be an extension of pragmatism beyond endurance. Santa Claus
makes children good in precisely the same way, and yet no one would argue
seriously that the fact proves his existence. The defense of religion is
full of such logical imbecilities."
Mencken
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: WHY Don't *Normal* Christians STRIKE BACK at the RRR Cult's Lies? The possible ANSWER! |
28 Apr 2004 06:23:49 AM |
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On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 00:33:09 GMT,
(Craig Chilton) spake thusly:
Eric Bohlman <ebohlman@earthlink.net>
Ninure Saunders
<RainbowChristiannohate@Rainbow-Christian.tk> wrote:
"SPQR" <PopUlist349@hotmail.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton < > wrote:
WHY Don't *Normal* Christians STRIKE BACK
at the RRR Cult's Lies?
The sensible, fair-minded and tolerant CHRISTIANS in
America want **nothing** to do with the hateful agendas of
the ignorant, PSEUDO-Christian losers of the RRR Cult.
The former comprise about 99% of America's Chrisrians,
and the RRR cultists comprise less than the reamaining 1%.
Some of the 99% *passively* sympathize with some of the
RRR's objectives, but are FAIR enough to not so much as
lift a finger to help them.
And tens of millions of *actual*, non-RRR-cult Christians
are Pro-Choice with respect to abortion, and support the right
of gays to marry their same-sex partners. I'm just ONE of those
tens of millions of people, and i've been setting that example
in here for many years, now.
Please DON'T blame *actual* Christians for the loath-
some and ignorant hatefulness and bigotry of the cultists
who dishonestly pretend to be, or who have been CONNED
into thinking their stance is Biblical.
The Bible appointed NO Gestapo to attempt to enforce
its precepts (or worse, its MISperceived precepts) upon
society in general.
There is NOTHING Christian about the RRR Cult.
So -- tell me -- when do the REAL Christians stand up as
a group and denounce the radical "religious right?" So long as
they do not do so, they are complicit and are sinning by silence.
We just can't seem to get the press coverage and/or access
as the "religious" right.
When the so-called liberal press wants a "Christian" viewpoint,
do they contact the World Council of Churches?
The President of the United Churches of Christ?
The Society of Friends (Quakers)?
No, they don't contact anyone like them. They contact people
like Jerry Falwell, or Pat Ribertson. The Christian Coalition, and
the like.
We can scream our heads off..and sometimes we do, but
even YOU can't hear us if the press/media ignores us.
The possible ANSWER!
*MAJOR* kudos to Eric Bohlman, who either is very intuitive...
has done his media homework **exceptionally** WELL... is in a position
to *know* that of which he speaks so well below... or any combination
of those possibilities. He just may have nailed the **cause** of this
squarely on the head! He wrote:
The media is very much slanted to the left. That is a
fact that prompted the book, "BIAS".
--
± Pastor Dave Raymond ±
"As for me, I have not hastened from being a pastor
to follow thee: neither have I desired the woeful day;
thou knowest: that which came out of my lips was right
before thee." - Jeremiah 17:16
"The real mark of someone who wants to know the Truth
is not that they expect others to prove it to them,
but that they seek after it themselves." - Chayil
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| User: "RainLover" |
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28 Apr 2004 08:17:09 AM |
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On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 07:23:49 -0400, Pastor Dave <nospam*-*pastordave38@yahoo.com> wrote:
The media is very much slanted to the left. That is a
fact that prompted the book, "BIAS".
This is funny since others say the Media is slanted to the Right.
Personally, I think the U.S. Media has gotten fat and lazy and doesn't 'report' anything... they
simply parrot the press releases and news conferences they show up for.
I just heard a British report yesterday...
Someone (sorry, I don't remember who) did a study of the 3 U.S. networks in the month prior to the
Iraq Invasion... Out of 480 interviews with people about it, there were 30 interviews with people
opposed to going to war.
You can claim "right" or "left" leanings, but the media (at least the networks) are going down the
toilet.
James, Seattle
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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29 Apr 2004 07:06:18 AM |
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On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 06:17:09 -0700, RainLover
<SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> spake thusly:
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 07:23:49 -0400, Pastor Dave <nospam*-*pastordave38@yahoo.com> wrote:
The media is very much slanted to the left. That is a
fact that prompted the book, "BIAS".
This is funny since others say the Media is slanted to the Right.
Good for them. The fact is, it is slanted to the left.
--
± Pastor Dave Raymond ±
"As for me, I have not hastened from being a pastor
to follow thee: neither have I desired the woeful day;
thou knowest: that which came out of my lips was right
before thee." - Jeremiah 17:16
"Wasn't there a time when the brightest minds in
the world believed that the world was flat? And
up until like what, 50 years ago, you all thought
the atom was the smallest thing, until you split
it open and this like, whole mess of crap came out.
Now, are you telling me that you are so unbelievably
arrogant that you can't admit that there's a teeny
tiny possibility that you could be wrong about this?"
- Phoebe from Friends, regarding evolution
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: WHY Don't *Normal* Christians STRIKE BACK at the RRR Cult's Lies? The possible ANSWER! |
30 Apr 2004 12:32:32 AM |
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In article <btr1909sd4jomct5ml13qh29umjelkl8bq@4ax.com>, Pastor Dave
<nospam*-*pastordave38@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 06:17:09 -0700, RainLover
<SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> spake thusly:
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 07:23:49 -0400, Pastor Dave
<nospam*-*pastordave38@yahoo.com> wrote:
The media is very much slanted to the left. That is a
fact that prompted the book, "BIAS".
This is funny since others say the Media is slanted to the Right.
Good for them. The fact is, it is slanted to the left.
The FACT is, it isn't, as many honest studies demonstrate. It is also
a FACT that the Right needs to claim the media is slanted to the left
because to do otherwise would mean they would have to address the
truth, which goes against them. The Right is VERY big on attacking the
source.
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| User: "Osprey" |
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30 Apr 2004 08:22:26 AM |
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"David W. Barnes" <VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote in message
news:290420042232321293%VoteKerry@dbarnes.com...
In article <btr1909sd4jomct5ml13qh29umjelkl8bq@4ax.com>, Pastor Dave
<nospam*-*pastordave38@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 06:17:09 -0700, RainLover
<SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> spake thusly:
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 07:23:49 -0400, Pastor Dave
<nospam*-*pastordave38@yahoo.com> wrote:
The media is very much slanted to the left. That is a
fact that prompted the book, "BIAS".
This is funny since others say the Media is slanted to the Right.
Good for them. The fact is, it is slanted to the left.
The FACT is, it isn't, as many honest studies demonstrate. It is also
a FACT that the Right needs to claim the media is slanted to the left
because to do otherwise would mean they would have to address the
truth, which goes against them. The Right is VERY big on attacking the
source.
ROFL
Says Barnes who constantly attacks any source or cuts it out.
If the source proves Barnes is wrong, he cuts it out.
Oh the irony!!!!!!
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: WHY Don't *Normal* Christians STRIKE BACK at the RRR Cult's Lies? The possible ANSWER! |
30 Apr 2004 10:19:26 AM |
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In article <3d6dnZS_0siUzg_dRVn-vg@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote in message
news:290420042232321293%VoteKerry@dbarnes.com...
In article <btr1909sd4jomct5ml13qh29umjelkl8bq@4ax.com>, Pastor Dave
<nospam*-*pastordave38@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 06:17:09 -0700, RainLover
<SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> spake thusly:
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 07:23:49 -0400, Pastor Dave
<nospam*-*pastordave38@yahoo.com> wrote:
The media is very much slanted to the left. That is a
fact that prompted the book, "BIAS".
This is funny since others say the Media is slanted to the Right.
Good for them. The fact is, it is slanted to the left.
The FACT is, it isn't, as many honest studies demonstrate. It is also
a FACT that the Right needs to claim the media is slanted to the left
because to do otherwise would mean they would have to address the
truth, which goes against them. The Right is VERY big on attacking the
source.
ROFL
Says Barnes who constantly attacks any source or cuts it out.
If the source proves Barnes is wrong, he cuts it out.
Oh the irony!!!!!!
Heishman, you are nothing but lies and unsupported *****.
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| Title: Re: WHY Don't *Normal* Christians STRIKE BACK at the RRR Cult's Lies? The possible ANSWER! |
30 Apr 2004 02:10:13 PM |
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"David W. Barnes" <VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote in message
news:300420040819260409%VoteKerry@dbarnes.com...
In article <3d6dnZS_0siUzg_dRVn-vg@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote in message
news:290420042232321293%VoteKerry@dbarnes.com...
In article <btr1909sd4jomct5ml13qh29umjelkl8bq@4ax.com>, Pastor Dave
<nospam*-*pastordave38@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 06:17:09 -0700, RainLover
<SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> spake thusly:
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 07:23:49 -0400, Pastor Dave
<nospam*-*pastordave38@yahoo.com> wrote:
The media is very much slanted to the left. That is a
fact that prompted the book, "BIAS".
This is funny since others say the Media is slanted to the Right.
Good for them. The fact is, it is slanted to the left.
The FACT is, it isn't, as many honest studies demonstrate. It is also
a FACT that the Right needs to claim the media is slanted to the left
because to do otherwise would mean they would have to address the
truth, which goes against them. The Right is VERY big on attacking
the
source.
ROFL
Says Bar | | | | | | | |
