#61.
Stone the Crows!
" He that is wounded in the stones or hath his privy member cut off,
shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD. A ***** shall
not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth
generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD. An
Ammonite or Moabite shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD;
even to their tenth generation shall they not enter into the
congregation of the LORD forever" (Deu. 23:1-3)

But

"Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast
them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or
maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cas into
everlasting fire" (Mat 18:8)

So did the Bible lie when it said you *couldn't* get to Heaven with a
defect or did it lie when it said you *could*?

#61.
Stone the Crows!
" He that is wounded in the stones or hath his privy member cut off,
shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD. A ***** shall
not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth
generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD. An
Ammonite or Moabite shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD;
even to their tenth generation shall they not enter into the
congregation of the LORD forever" (Deu. 23:1-3)

But

"Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast
them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or
maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cas into
everlasting fire" (Mat 18:8)

So did the Bible lie when it said you *couldn't* get to Heaven with a
defect or did it lie when it said you *could*?

#62.
Was that meteorite meet and right?
Jos. 10:11 "And it came to pass, as they fled from before
Israel...that the LORD cast down great stones from heaven...and they
died: they were more which died with hailstones than they whom the
children of Israel slew with the sword."

So these people are defeated. They're fleeing from the Israelites,
but that's not good enough for the God of love - he has to pound them
with stones? Or did the bible lie about that and it was realyl
hailstones? Or did the Bibel lie abotut hat and it was stones? Or
did the Bible just plainly and simply lie abotut he whole thing?

And why was this long-suffering god of love so determined to viciously
and physically hurt people?

#63.
Jos. 10:12 "Then spake Joshua to the LORD in the day when the LORD
delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said
in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou,
Moon, in the valley of Ajalon...."

Well this is a lie. The Earth didn't stop, nor did the Moon or Sun
"stop".

But I think the point is being missed in this debate. It isn't
whether the sun and moon actually or metaphorically stood still. The
point is why Joshua had to fight at all? Could God not have taken
care of his enemies for him in some humane fashion? Why did any
Israelite have to die to defend or secure the very homeland God
himself had promised?

Or was the promise just another "BibLie"

#64.
You can't count on the Bible:
Jos. 15:32 "...all the cities are twenty and nine, with their
villages:"
Wrong! The cities total 38.
Jos. 15:36 "...fourteen cities with their villages:"
Wrong! The cities total 15. The scribes who wrote and copied this
either added other cities and then forgot to change the totals, or
simply cannot add.
There are those who try to claim:
"Well, the number is only cities and when you add the "with their
villages", the total of 29 cities and 9 villages gives 38, and the
total of 14 cities and one village gives 15,"
please read on:
The next two sets (vss. 37-44) where the totals come to 16 and 9,
exactly match the quoted number, including their villages. The Divine
Word of God is an unarguable, undeniable, unavoidable, unrepentant,
lie.

#65.
God is plainly defeated:
Jud. 1:19 "And the LORD was with Judah; and he drave out the
inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants
of the valley, because they had chariots of iron."
But:
Jer. 32:27 "...I am the LORD...is there any thing too hard for me?"
And:
Mat. 19:26 "...with God all things are possible."

So did the Bible lie when it said nothing is too hard for the god?

This is giving away the secret that believers don't want you to know
(assuming they even know it themselves): the God of the Bible was
originally a Caananite God called El-Shaddai, a mere God of the
Mountains (this is why he succeeded in the mountains, but failed in
the valley - see 1 Kin. 20:28 for more on this. This is also why
Moses and others are always going into the mountains to commune with
their god.). El-Shaddai was dragged out of Ur of the Chaldees by
Abram, like a sex-doll from a shabby suitcase in a tawdry motel, and
inflated in much the same way, to give pleasure to the Hebrews.

Wait a minute! Did I say Ur of the Chaldees? The Chaldean people
overthrew Assyrian rule to create a second Babylonian empire around
the 7th century BC. Not only was this not in Abram's time, it was
over half a millennium after Moses' time, thereby giving the lie to
the idea that any of the Genesis story was written by Moses or any of
his cohorts. It also denies that God is omnipotent because even with
his help, Judah failed to beat the iron chariots.

A brief note on Abram sacrificing his son: the Canaanites (from whom
he came) of that period apparently did sacrifice children - excavation
of a site near the city of Gezer (1 Kin. 9:16 "For Pharaoh king of
Egypt had gone up, and taken Gezer, and burnt it with fire, and slain
the Canaanites that dwelt in the city, and given it for a present unto
his daughter, Solomon's wife.") turned up jars full of the charred
bones of babies. This is the Patriarch of Judaism, Islam, and
Christianity, who whole-heartedly believed in murdering children and
burning their bodies as an offering to the so-called God of love and
peace, who, in a later incarnation said, "Suffer little children to
come unto me"! He ought to have said, "Little children, come unto me
and suffer!"

#66.
1 Sam 16:10-11 "Again, Jesse made seven of his sons to pass before
Samuel....And Samuel said unto Jesse, Are here all thy children? And
he said, There remaineth yet the youngest..."
But:
1 Chr. 2:13-15 "Jesse
begat...Eliab ...Abinadab ...Shimma ...Nethaneel ...Raddai ...Ozem ...Dav=

the seventh"
Jesse had seven sons or eight? Jesse lies with his wife, the scribe
lies about how many times....

#67.
And what's this about David and Goliath?
1 Sam. 17:49 "And David...smote the Philistine in his forehead...and
he fell upon his face to the earth."
2 Sam. 21:19 "And there was again a battle in Gob with the
Philistines, where Elhanan the son of Jair, a Bethlehemite, slew the
brother of Goliath of Gath..."

The words between 'slew' and 'Goliath' are an interpolation, designed
to protect the myth of David and Goliath. We can get a better angle
on it if we look at Chronicles, which tells precisely the same tale:
1 Chr. 20:5 "And there was war again with the Philistines; and Elhanan
the son of Jair slew Lahmi the brother of Goliath of Gath..."
According to Asimov ("Asimov's Guide to the Bible"), the word 'Lahmi'
is a corruption of the word 'Bethlehemite', so we can see here that in
place of the original 'Bethlehemite' and the interpolated 'brother of'
we now have a name for this supposed brother: Lahmi!

The original text doubtlessly identified Elhanan as the slayer of
Goliath, but since the myth of David and Goliath had become so
powerful an image, the scribes had to take credit from Elhanan. Naw,
he couldn't have slain Goliath, so it must have been the brother of
Goliath that he slew! See how the lie has grown? If it were not
actually Goliath that Elhanan slew, why even mention the matter? Even
if it were Goliath's brother, the fact that some nondescript guy from
Bethlehem with no ceremony whatsoever took down the brother of a nine-
foot guy who owned a 15 pound spear head, completely deflates David's
feat!

#68.
Worse than this is the fact that this story of David, which leads to
his introduction to Saul, is in complete contradiction to an earlier
story of David and Saul's first meeting:
1 Sam 16:18 "Then answered one of the servants, and said, Behold, I
have seen a son of Jesse the Bethlehemite, that is cunning in playing,
and a mighty valiant man...And Saul sent to Jesse, saying, Let David,
I pray thee, stand before me; for he hath found favour in my sight..."
So what is this farce of David and Goliath doing there at all? It's a
lie!

Saul doesn't get the point:
1 Sam. 18:11-12 "And Saul cast the javelin; for he said, I will smite
David even to the wall with it. And David avoided out of his presence
twice. And Saul was afraid of David, because the LORD was with him,
and was departed from Saul."
Wait a minute - Saul is afraid of David because God is with him, but
he tries to kill him anyway? David is God's chosen one, God is with
him, but he is so afraid of Saul he has to hide from him? That's soo-
oo believable!

#69.
Jesus lies:
1 Sam. 21:1-6 "Then came David to Nob to Ahimelech the priest...So the
priest gave him hallowed bread:"
Mark 2:25-26 "And he said unto them, Have ye never read what David
did...How he went into the house of God in the days of Abiathar the
high priest, and did eat the shewbread, which is not lawful to eat but
for the priests, and gave also to them which were with him?"
Abiathar was the son of Ahimelech, and may himself have had a son
called Ahimelech! Jesus ought to have known better - if he were the
Son of God. Obviously he didn't, so he isn't.

#70.
That Saul, folks!
1 Sam. 31:4,5,6 "Then said Saul unto his armourbearer, Draw thy sword,
and thrust me through therewith...But his armourbearer would
not...Therefore Saul took a sword, and fell upon it. And when his
armourbearer saw that Saul was dead, he fell likewise upon his
sword...So Saul died, and his three sons, and his armourbearer, and
all his men, that same day together."
(How do they know this if they all died?!!)
Or
2 Sam. 1:5-10 "And David said...How knowest thou that Saul and
Jonathan his son be dead? And the young [Amalekite] that told him
said...I stood upon him, and slew him, because I was sure that he
could not live after that he was fallen..."
(Wait a minute - there's still an Amalekite left?!!!)
Or
2 Sam. 21:12 "And David went and took the bones of Saul...where the
Philistines had hanged them, when the Philistines had slain Saul in
Gilboa..."
(Those Philistines were such party animals - fill a stein and fill a
grave....)
Or
1 Chr. 10:13,14 "So Saul...enquired not of the LORD: therefore he slew
him, and turned the kingdom unto David the son of Jesse."

So who, precisely, did kill Saul? I have seen whiny-butt apologizers
...

meer lezen =BB

#61.
Stone the Crows!
" He that is wounded in the stones or hath his privy member cut off,
shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD. A ***** shall
not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth
generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD. An
Ammonite or Moabite shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD;
even to their tenth generation shall they not enter into the
congregation of the LORD forever" (Deu. 23:1-3)

But

"Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast
them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or
maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cas into
everlasting fire" (Mat 18:8)

So did the Bible lie when it said you *couldn't* get to Heaven with a
defect or did it lie when it said you *could*?


#62.
Was that meteorite meet and right?
Jos. 10:11 "And it came to pass, as they fled from before
Israel...that the LORD cast down great stones from heaven...and they
died: they were more which died with hailstones than they whom the
children of Israel slew with the sword."

So these people are defeated. They're fleeing from the Israelites,
but that's not good enough for the God of love - he has to pound them
with stones? Or did the bible lie about that and it was realyl
hailstones? Or did the Bibel lie abotut hat and it was stones? Or
did the Bible just plainly and simply lie abotut he whole thing?

And why was this long-suffering god of love so determined to viciously
and physically hurt people?


#63.
Jos. 10:12 "Then spake Joshua to the LORD in the day when the LORD
delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said
in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou,
Moon, in the valley of Ajalon...."

Well this is a lie. The Earth didn't stop, nor did the Moon or Sun
"stop".

But I think the point is being missed in this debate. It isn't
whether the sun and moon actually or metaphorically stood still. The
point is why Joshua had to fight at all? Could God not have taken
care of his enemies for him in some humane fashion? Why did any
Israelite have to die to defend or secure the very homeland God
himself had promised?

Or was the promise just another "BibLie"


#64.
You can't count on the Bible:
Jos. 15:32 "...all the cities are twenty and nine, with their
villages:"
Wrong! The cities total 38.
Jos. 15:36 "...fourteen cities with their villages:"
Wrong! The cities total 15. The scribes who wrote and copied this
either added other cities and then forgot to change the totals, or
simply cannot add.
There are those who try to claim:
"Well, the number is only cities and when you add the "with their
villages", the total of 29 cities and 9 villages gives 38, and the
total of 14 cities and one village gives 15,"
please read on:
The next two sets (vss. 37-44) where the totals come to 16 and 9,
exactly match the quoted number, including their villages. The Divine
Word of God is an unarguable, undeniable, unavoidable, unrepentant,
lie.


#65.
God is plainly defeated:
Jud. 1:19 "And the LORD was with Judah; and he drave out the
inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants
of the valley, because they had chariots of iron."
But:
Jer. 32:27 "...I am the LORD...is there any thing too hard for me?"
And:
Mat. 19:26 "...with God all things are possible."

So did the Bible lie when it said nothing is too hard for the god?

This is giving away the secret that believers don't want you to know
(assuming they even know it themselves): the God of the Bible was
originally a Caananite God called El-Shaddai, a mere God of the
Mountains (this is why he succeeded in the mountains, but failed in
the valley - see 1 Kin. 20:28 for more on this. This is also why
Moses and others are always going into the mountains to commune with
their god.). El-Shaddai was dragged out of Ur of the Chaldees by
Abram, like a sex-doll from a shabby suitcase in a tawdry motel, and
inflated in much the same way, to give pleasure to the Hebrews.

Wait a minute! Did I say Ur of the Chaldees? The Chaldean people
overthrew Assyrian rule to create a second Babylonian empire around
the 7th century BC. Not only was this not in Abram's time, it was
over half a millennium after Moses' time, thereby giving the lie to
the idea that any of the Genesis story was written by Moses or any of
his cohorts. It also denies that God is omnipotent because even with
his help, Judah failed to beat the iron chariots.

A brief note on Abram sacrificing his son: the Canaanites (from whom
he came) of that period apparently did sacrifice children - excavation
of a site near the city of Gezer (1 Kin. 9:16 "For Pharaoh king of
Egypt had gone up, and taken Gezer, and burnt it with fire, and slain
the Canaanites that dwelt in the city, and given it for a present unto
his daughter, Solomon's wife.") turned up jars full of the charred
bones of babies. This is the Patriarch of Judaism, Islam, and
Christianity, who whole-heartedly believed in murdering children and
burning their bodies as an offering to the so-called God of love and
peace, who, in a later incarnation said, "Suffer little children to
come unto me"! He ought to have said, "Little children, come unto me
and suffer!"


#66.
1 Sam 16:10-11 "Again, Jesse made seven of his sons to pass before
Samuel....And Samuel said unto Jesse, Are here all thy children? And
he said, There remaineth yet the youngest..."
But:
1 Chr. 2:13-15 "Jesse
begat...Eliab ...Abinadab ...Shimma ...Nethaneel ...Raddai ...Ozem
...David
the seventh"
Jesse had seven sons or eight? Jesse lies with his wife, the scribe
lies about how many times....


#67.
And what's this about David and Goliath?
1 Sam. 17:49 "And David...smote the Philistine in his forehead...and
he fell upon his face to the earth."
2 Sam. 21:19 "And there was again a battle in Gob with the
Philistines, where Elhanan the son of Jair, a Bethlehemite, slew the
brother of Goliath of Gath..."
The words between 'slew' and 'Goliath' are an interpolation, designed
to protect the myth of David and Goliath. We can get a better angle
on it if we look at Chronicles, which tells precisely the same tale:
1 Chr. 20:5 "And there was war again with the Philistines; and Elhanan
the son of Jair slew Lahmi the brother of Goliath of Gath..."
According to Asimov ("Asimov's Guide to the Bible"), the word 'Lahmi'
is a corruption of the word 'Bethlehemite', so we can see here that in
place of the original 'Bethlehemite' and the interpolated 'brother of'
we now have a name for this supposed brother: Lahmi!

The original text doubtlessly identified Elhanan as the slayer of
Goliath, but since the myth of David and Goliath had become so
powerful an image, the scribes had to take credit from Elhanan. Naw,
he couldn't have slain Goliath, so it must have been the brother of
Goliath that he slew! See how the lie has grown? If it were not
actually Goliath that Elhanan slew, why even mention the matter? Even
if it were Goliath's brother, the fact that some nondescript guy from
Bethlehem with no ceremony whatsoever took down the brother of a nine-
foot guy who owned a 15 pound spear head, completely deflates David's
feat!


#68.
Worse than this is the fact that this story of David, which leads to
his introduction to Saul, is in complete contradiction to an earlier
story of David and Saul's first meeting:
1 Sam 16:18 "Then answered one of the servants, and said, Behold, I
have seen a son of Jesse the Bethlehemite, that is cunning in playing,
and a mighty valiant man...And Saul sent to Jesse, saying, Let David,
I pray thee, stand before me; for he hath found favour in my sight..."
So what is this farce of David and Goliath doing there at all? It's a
lie!

Saul doesn't get the point:
1 Sam. 18:11-12 "And Saul cast the javelin; for he said, I will smite
David even to the wall with it. And David avoided out of his presence
twice. And Saul was afraid of David, because the LORD was with him,
and was departed from Saul."
Wait a minute - Saul is afraid of David because God is with him, but
he tries to kill him anyway? David is God's chosen one, God is with
him, but he is so afraid of Saul he has to hide from him? That's soo-
oo believable!


#69.
Jesus lies:
1 Sam. 21:1-6 "Then came David to Nob to Ahimelech the priest...So the
priest gave him hallowed bread:"
Mark 2:25-26 "And he said unto them, Have ye never read what David
did...How he went into the house of God in the days of Abiathar the
high priest, and did eat the shewbread, which is not lawful to eat but
for the priests, and gave also to them which were with him?"
Abiathar was the son of Ahimelech, and may himself have had a son
called Ahimelech! Jesus ought to have known better - if he were the
Son of God. Obviously he didn't, so he isn't.


#70.
That Saul, folks!
1 Sam. 31:4,5,6 "Then said Saul unto his armourbearer, Draw thy sword,
and thrust me through therewith...But his armourbearer would
not...Therefore Saul took a sword, and fell upon it. And when his
armourbearer saw that Saul was dead, he fell likewise upon his
sword...So Saul died, and his three sons, and his armourbearer, and
all his men, that same day together."
(How do they know this if they all died?!!)
Or
2 Sam. 1:5-10 "And David said...How knowest thou that Saul and
Jonathan his son be dead? And the young [Amalekite] that told him
said...I stood upon him, and slew him, because I was sure that he
could not live after that he was fallen..."
(Wait a minute - there's still an Amalekite left?!!!)
Or
2 Sam. 21:12 "And David went and took the bones of Saul...where the
Philistines had hanged them, when the Philistines had slain Saul in
Gilboa..."
(Those Philistines were such party animals - fill a stein and fill a
grave....)
Or
1 Chr. 10:13,14 "So Saul...enquired not of the LORD: therefore he slew
him, and turned the kingdom unto David the son of Jesse."

So who, precisely, did kill Saul? I have seen whiny-butt apologizers
claiming that Saul killed himself, and the Amalekite simply lied about
his involvement to curry favor with David, as though this absolves the
Bible of error, but this is nonsense.

Why would the Amalekite lie, knowing he would be killed for admitting
to slaying God's anointed? Either the Amalekite killed Saul, in which
case the other three verses are lies, or Saul killed himself and the
Amalekite lied, in which case the Bible contains a known lie which is
not identified as such.

This latter option begs the question as to how many other lies there
are in the Bible which remain unidentified? How many other liars have
had the full text of their lies written into the "Holy Scripture"
without offering us any means whatsoever of telling fact from fib?
Even if this issue were resolved, there is no explanation I have ever
seen which can have either the first quote or the second quote true,
and also the third and fourth quotes true. In other words, whichever
apology you choose, three of these verses are lies!

Budikka