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"stone" |
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31 Oct 2004 12:57:30 PM |
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Will Bush Fall to the 20 Year Curse? |
Ecclesiastes 3:1 To every thing there is a season, and a time to every
purpose under the heaven:
Ecclesiastes 3:15 That which hath been is now; and that which is to be hath
already been; and God requireth that which is past.
This is the Bible way of saying that history repeats itself and things
happen in cycles. There is a very old superstition in the United States and
it is based on fact. Every American president [except Ronald Reagan] that
was elected on a 20 year period died before he left office, either by
assasination or natural causes, from the president before Abe Lincoln until
now. And someone tried to kill Ronald Reagan but the bullet didn't kill him
and he was saved in the hospital. You can trace this back to around 1840.
[It refers to presidents elected, for example, in 1900, 1920, 1940, 1960, -
that is what I mean by elected on a 20 year period. Note: The Bible calls
astrology sinful to follow so don't follow after it. Nevertheless, the
astology people say that the 20 year curse is caused by a certain planet
being in a certain position at the founding of the country. President George
Bush was elected on a 20 year period, 2000. The question is, "will history
repeat itself, as in Ecclesiastes 3:15, and will president bush fall victim
to the 20 year curse and die before he leaves office"? I suppose that there
are many Muslim extremists that would love to kill themselves while killing
president Bush. The false religion Islam tells them that they will go to
heaven if they die in a Jihad or holy war - this is false religious
teaching.
The legendary Tecumseh curse-a curse originating from the Shawnees
after
General Harrison and his forces broke the power of the Native American
military movement in 1811at the famous battle of Tippecanoe, is
supposedly
the reason that 7 (almost 8) US presidents elected in years ending in
zero
every 20 years have died or been killed in office, not the position of
the
stars and planets during this nation's founding. Though some
astrologers
claim to have found an astrological correlation between the position
of
the
stars on the dates of the deaths of the pertinent presidents, I
believe
Chief Tecumseh's "curse" is a more likely cause.
Essentially the curse foretold:
" Harrison will not win this year to be the Great Chief, but he may
win
next
year. If he does, he will not finish his term. He will die in his
office... and after him, every Great Chief chosen every 20 years
thereafter
will die."
William Henry Harrison, first president to fall victim to the curse.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/wh9.html
Sure, the Presidents elected in 1840 (W Harrison - natural causes), 1860
(Lincoln - shot), 1880 (Garfield - shot), 1900 (McKinley - shot), 1920
(Harding - natural causes), 1940 (F Roosevelt - natural causes) and 1960
(Kennedy - shot) all died in office.
Don't make fun of such curses. The Bible has definite evidence that such a
curse will come true, if the one causing the curse believes without a doubt
that what he says in the curse will really happen. Joshua cursed the man
that would rebuild Jericho, saying that his firstborn would die when he
started to rebuild it, and his youngest son would die when he set up the
gates. The Bible says that hundreds of years later this curse came true.
Joshua 6:26 And Joshua adjured them at that time, saying, Cursed be the man
before the LORD, that riseth up and buildeth this city Jericho: he shall lay
the foundation thereof in his firstborn, and in his youngest son shall he
set up the gates of it. 1 Kings 16:34 In his days did Hiel the Bethelite
build Jericho: he laid the foundation thereof in Abiram his firstborn, and
set up the gates thereof in his youngest son Segub, according to the word of
the LORD, which he spake by Joshua the son of Nun. Also, Jotham the son of
Jerubaal, (Gideon) cursed Abimelech, and the men of Shechem, and years later
his curse came true. Judges 9:19 If ye then have dealt truly and sincerely
with Jerubbaal and with his house this day, then rejoice ye in Abimelech,
and let him also rejoice in you: Judges 9:20 But if not, let fire come out
from Abimelech, and devour the men of Shechem, and the house of Millo; and
let fire come out from the men of Shechem, and from the house of Millo, and
devour Abimelech. Judges 9:23 Then God sent an evil spirit between Abimelech
and the men of Shechem; and the men of Shechem dealt treacherously with
Abimelech: From verse 9:24 onto verse 9:55 it tells of how Abimelech and the
men of Shechem had war with each other and how Abimelech was killed. Judges
9:56 Thus God rendered the wickedness of Abimelech, which he did unto his
father, in slaying his seventy brethren: Judges 9:57 And all the evil of the
men of Shechem did God render upon their heads: and upon them came the curse
of Jotham the son of Jerubbaal. The Bible clearly shows that such a curse
will come true, if it is done with the belief that it will happen, without a
doubt. Mark 11:23 For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto
this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not
doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall
come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith. [Note the words,
"whosoever" and "whatsoever". It seems that this ability is for anyone, not
just Christians.] Old Tecumseh may have had unwavering belief when he made
this curse, if he really did make it. Nevertheless, Reagan is the only one
yet that beat the curse and someone did try to kill him.) It is as if the
curse tried to get him but failed.
Website about the curse:
http://explorers.whyte.com/curse.htm
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| Title: EXCERPT: George Orwell's 1984 |
12 Nov 2004 11:21:31 PM |
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George Orwell's wife died while in hospital for a
relatively minor operation before Nineteen Eighty-Four was
published, so that she never saw the success and scandal it
created.
George Orwell had written an outline of the plot of
Nineteen Eighty-Four in 1943. By the time he came to write
the first version of the novel, in 1947, neither world
history nor the events of his personal life had made him any
more hopeful about the future. He collapsed into bed for a
month after writing this first version until, after finally
consulting a doctor, he was sent to a sanatorium where his
tuberculosis could be treated. As soon as he started to feel
well, he began to write again, with a pen because the
doctors had taken away his typewriter.
He worked on alterations to Nineteen Eighty-Four in the
sanatorium, and as soon as he was able to leave, he got to
work on the second version of the novel, although he was
still so weak that he had to spend half the day in bed. This
final version was produced in 1948, and the year in which he
set the novel was obtained by reversing the last two digits.
The effort of typing the final version brought him near to
physical collapse.
http://www.liferesearchuniversal.com/introduction.html
===============
"...and, since no decisive victory is possible, it does
not matter whether the war is going well or badly. All
that is needed is that a state of war should exist. "
Literature Network > George Orwell > 1984 > Chapter 9
http://www.online-literature.com/orwell/1984/17/
===========excerpts: Chapter 9
9
Winston was gelatinous with fatigue. Gelatinous was the
right word. It had come into his head spontaneously. His
body seemed to have not only the weakness of a jelly, but
its translucency. He felt that if he held up his hand he
would be able to see the light through it. All the blood
and lymph had been drained out of him by an enormous debauch
of work, leaving only a frail structure of nerves, bones,
and skin. All sensations seemed to be magnified. His
overalls fretted his shoulders, the pavement tickled his
feet, even the opening and closing of a hand was an effort
that made his joints creak.
He had worked more than ninety hours in five days. So had
everyone else in the Ministry.
....snip
Slowly, in mild afternoon sunshine, he walked up a dingy
street in the direction of Mr Charrington's shop, keeping
one eye open for the patrols, but irrationally convinced
that this afternoon there was no danger of anyone
interfering with him. The heavy brief-case that he was
carrying bumped against his knee at each step, sending a
tingling sensation up and down the skin of his leg. Inside
it was the book, which he had now had in his possession for
six days and had not yet opened, nor even looked at.
On the sixth day of Hate Week, after the processions, the
speeches, the shouting, the singing, the banners, the
posters, the films, the waxworks, the rolling of drums and
squealing of trumpets, the tramp of marching feet, the
grinding of the caterpillars of tanks, the roar of massed
planes, the booming of guns -- after six days of this, when
the great orgasm was quivering to its climax and the general
hatred of Eurasia had boiled up into such delirium that if
the crowd could have got their hands on the 2,000 Eurasian
war-criminals who were to be publicly hanged on the last day
of the proceedings, they would unquestionably have torn them
to pieces -- at just this moment it had been announced that
Oceania was not after all at war with Eurasia. Oceania was
at war with Eastasia. Eurasia was an ally.
There was, of course, no admission that any change had taken
place. Merely it became known, with extreme suddenness and
everywhere at once, that Eastasia and not Eurasia was the
enemy. Winston was taking part in a demonstration in one
of the central London squares at the moment when it
happened. It was night, and the white faces and the
scarlet banners were luridly floodlit. The square was
packed with several thousand people, including a block of
about a thousand schoolchildren in the uniform of the Spies.
On a scarlet-draped platform an orator of the Inner Party, a
small lean man with disproportionately long arms and a large
bald skull over which a few lank locks straggled, was
haranguing the crowd. A little Rumpelstiltskin figure,
contorted with hatred, he gripped the neck of the microphone
with one hand while the other, enormous at the end of a bony
arm, clawed the air menacingly above his head. His voice,
made metallic by the amplifiers, boomed forth an endless
catalogue of atrocities, massacres, deportations, lootings,
rapings, torture of prisoners, bombing of civilians, lying
propaganda, unjust aggressions, broken treaties.
It was almost impossible to listen to him without being
first convinced and then maddened. At every few moments
the fury of the crowd boiled over and the voice of the
speaker was drowned by a wild beast-like roaring that rose
uncontrollably from thousands of throats. The most savage
yells of all came from the schoolchildren. The speech had
been proceeding for perhaps twenty minutes when a messenger
hurried on to the platform and a scrap of paper was slipped
into the speaker's hand. He unrolled and read it without
pausing in his speech. Nothing altered in his voice or
manner, or in the content of what he was saying, but
suddenly the names were different.
Without words said, a wave of understanding rippled
through the crowd. Oceania was at war with Eastasia! The
next moment there was a tremendous commotion. The banners
and posters with which the square was decorated were all
wrong! Quite half of them had the wrong faces on them.
It was sabotage! The agents of Goldstein had been at work!
There was a riotous interlude while posters were ripped from
the walls, banners torn to shreds and trampled underfoot.
The Spies performed prodigies of activity in clambering over
the rooftops and cutting the streamers that fluttered from
the chimneys. But within two or three minutes it was all
over.
The orator, still gripping the neck of the microphone,
his shoulders hunched forward, his free hand clawing at the
air, had gone straight on with his speech. One minute
more, and the feral roars of rage were again bursting from
the crowd. The Hate continued exactly as before, except
that the target had been changed.
The thing that impressed Winston in looking back was that
the speaker had switched from one line to the other actually
in midsentence, not only without a pause, but without even
breaking the syntax.
..........snip
The social atmosphere is that of a besieged city, where the
possession of a lump of horseflesh makes the difference
between wealth and poverty. And at the same time the
consciousness of being at war, and therefore in danger,
makes the handing-over of all power to a small caste seem
the natural, unavoidable condition of survival.
War, it will be seen, accomplishes the necessary
destruction, but accomplishes it in a psychologically
acceptable way.
In principle it would be quite simple to waste the
surplus labour of the world by building temples and
pyramids, by digging holes and filling them up again, or
even by producing vast quantities of goods and then setting
fire to them.
But this would provide only the economic and not the
emotional basis for a hierarchical society.
What is concerned here is not the morale of masses, whose
attitude is unimportant so long as they are kept steadily at
work, but the morale of the Party itself. Even the
humblest Party member is expected to be competent,
industrious, and even intelligent within narrow limits, but
it is also necessary that he should be a credulous and
ignorant fanatic whose prevailing moods are fear, hatred,
adulation, and orgiastic triumph. In other words it is
necessary that he should have the mentality appropriate to a
state of war.
It does not matter whether the war is actually happening,
and, since no decisive victory is possible, it does not
matter whether the war is going well or badly. All that is
needed is that a state of war should exist. The splitting
of the intelligence which the Party requires of its members,
and which is more easily achieved in an atmosphere of war,
is now almost universal, but the higher up the ranks one
goes, the more marked it becomes.
It is precisely in the Inner Party that war hysteria and
hatred of the enemy are strongest. In his capacity as an
administrator, it is often necessary for a member of the
Inner Party to know that this or that item of war news is
untruthful, and he may often be aware that the entire war is
spurious and is either not happening or is being waged for
purposes quite other than the declared ones: but such
knowledge is easily neutralized by the technique of
doublethink. Meanwhile no Inner Party member wavers for an
instant in his mystical belief that the war is real, and
that it is bound to end victoriously, with Oceania the
undisputed master of the entire world.
All members of the Inner Party believe in this coming
conquest as an article of faith. It is to be achieved
either by gradually acquiring more and more territory and so
building up an overwhelming preponderance of power, or by
the discovery of some new and unanswerable weapon. The
search for new weapons continues unceasingly, and is one of
the very few remaining activities in which the inventive or
speculative type of mind can find any outlet.
In Oceania at the present day, Science, in the old sense,
has almost ceased to exist. In Newspeak there is no word
for 'Science'. The empirical method of thought, on which
all the scientific achievements of the past were founded, is
opposed to the most fundamental principles of Ingsoc. And
even technological progress only happens when its products
can in some way be used for the diminution of human liberty.
In all the useful arts the world is either standing still or
going backwards....
==============
"The enemy of the moment always represent[s] absolute
evil."
http//www.george-orwell.org/1984/2.html
"Speaking the Truth in times of universal deceit is a
revolutionary act." [George Orwell]
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| User: "Ray" |
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| Title: Re: Will Bush Fall to the 20 Year Curse? |
01 Nov 2004 04:14:39 AM |
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"stone" <antiaging@ineedhits-mail.com> wrote in message
news:4185359a_1@news1.uncensored-news.com...
Ecclesiastes 3:1 To every thing there is a season, and a time to every
purpose under the heaven:
Ecclesiastes 3:15 That which hath been is now; and that which is to be
hath
already been; and God requireth that which is past.
This is the Bible way of saying that history repeats itself and things
happen in cycles. There is a very old superstition in the United States
and
it is based on fact. Every American president [except Ronald Reagan] that
was elected on a 20 year period died before he left office, either by
assasination or natural causes, from the president before Abe Lincoln
until
now. And someone tried to kill Ronald Reagan but the bullet didn't kill
him
and he was saved in the hospital. You can trace this back to around 1840.
[It refers to presidents elected, for example, in 1900, 1920, 1940,
1960, -
that is what I mean by elected on a 20 year period. Note: The Bible calls
astrology sinful to follow so don't follow after it. Nevertheless, the
astology people say that the 20 year curse is caused by a certain planet
being in a certain position at the founding of the country. President
George
Bush was elected on a 20 year period, 2000. The question is, "will history
repeat itself, as in Ecclesiastes 3:15, and will president bush fall
victim
to the 20 year curse and die before he leaves office"? I suppose that
there
are many Muslim extremists that would love to kill themselves while
killing
president Bush. The false religion Islam tells them that they will go to
heaven if they die in a Jihad or holy war - this is false religious
teaching.
The legendary Tecumseh curse-a curse originating from the Shawnees
after
General Harrison and his forces broke the power of the Native
American
military movement in 1811at the famous battle of Tippecanoe, is
supposedly
the reason that 7 (almost 8) US presidents elected in years ending
in
zero
every 20 years have died or been killed in office, not the position
of
the
stars and planets during this nation's founding. Though some
astrologers
claim to have found an astrological correlation between the position
of
the
stars on the dates of the deaths of the pertinent presidents, I
believe
Chief Tecumseh's "curse" is a more likely cause.
Essentially the curse foretold:
" Harrison will not win this year to be the Great Chief, but he may
win
next
year. If he does, he will not finish his term. He will die in his
office... and after him, every Great Chief chosen every 20 years
thereafter
will die."
William Henry Harrison, first president to fall victim to the curse.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/wh9.html
Sure, the Presidents elected in 1840 (W Harrison - natural causes), 1860
(Lincoln - shot), 1880 (Garfield - shot), 1900 (McKinley - shot), 1920
(Harding - natural causes), 1940 (F Roosevelt - natural causes) and 1960
(Kennedy - shot) all died in office.
Don't make fun of such curses. The Bible has definite evidence that such a
curse will come true, if the one causing the curse believes without a
doubt
that what he says in the curse will really happen. Joshua cursed the man
that would rebuild Jericho, saying that his firstborn would die when he
started to rebuild it, and his youngest son would die when he set up the
gates. The Bible says that hundreds of years later this curse came true.
Joshua 6:26 And Joshua adjured them at that time, saying, Cursed be the
man
before the LORD, that riseth up and buildeth this city Jericho: he shall
lay
the foundation thereof in his firstborn, and in his youngest son shall he
set up the gates of it. 1 Kings 16:34 In his days did Hiel the Bethelite
build Jericho: he laid the foundation thereof in Abiram his firstborn, and
set up the gates thereof in his youngest son Segub, according to the word
of
the LORD, which he spake by Joshua the son of Nun. Also, Jotham the son of
Jerubaal, (Gideon) cursed Abimelech, and the men of Shechem, and years
later
his curse came true. Judges 9:19 If ye then have dealt truly and sincerely
with Jerubbaal and with his house this day, then rejoice ye in Abimelech,
and let him also rejoice in you: Judges 9:20 But if not, let fire come out
from Abimelech, and devour the men of Shechem, and the house of Millo; and
let fire come out from the men of Shechem, and from the house of Millo,
and
devour Abimelech. Judges 9:23 Then God sent an evil spirit between
Abimelech
and the men of Shechem; and the men of Shechem dealt treacherously with
Abimelech: From verse 9:24 onto verse 9:55 it tells of how Abimelech and
the
men of Shechem had war with each other and how Abimelech was killed.
Judges
9:56 Thus God rendered the wickedness of Abimelech, which he did unto his
father, in slaying his seventy brethren: Judges 9:57 And all the evil of
the
men of Shechem did God render upon their heads: and upon them came the
curse
of Jotham the son of Jerubbaal. The Bible clearly shows that such a curse
will come true, if it is done with the belief that it will happen, without
a
doubt. Mark 11:23 For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto
this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall
not
doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith
shall
come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith. [Note the words,
"whosoever" and "whatsoever". It seems that this ability is for anyone,
not
just Christians.] Old Tecumseh may have had unwavering belief when he made
this curse, if he really did make it. Nevertheless, Reagan is the only one
yet that beat the curse and someone did try to kill him.) It is as if the
curse tried to get him but failed.
Website about the curse:
http://explorers.whyte.com/curse.htm
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Well about GWB and the 20 year curse.
If indeed he is the beast, the he will be killed by assassination and rise
again from the dead as mentioned in Revelation 13, whereby he will possessed
by the Dragon, maybe even an empty shell (which some republicans might think
being no different to now lol)
According to the time system of the final seven of Daniels 70 x 7 years, it
starts with a peace treaty (Road MAp to Peace). Even if that happened next
week, it would mean that Bush would have to be re-elected in 2008 for his
third term.
Personally I feel there is much evidence in calculations to it fitting in
with the Mayan end of calendar date as the end of the final 7 years (7 x 360
days = 42 x 30 x 2), split into 2 lots of 42 months.
This has the peace treaty being on the 28th of January, 2006, and him rising
from the dead about the 11th of July 2009. Which puts two major dates for
assassination attempt on the 4th of July and his birthday the 6th of July.
Incidentally, the two war gods of Mars (Roman) and Aries (Greek) both align
up exactly on this Peace Treaty date of the 28th of January. Which
incidentally is the 20th year of Space Shuttle Challenger. Ironically in my
time zone it is my 42nd birthday, starting the first of two lots of 42
months. A coincidence? Time will tell. There are only some factors which
show it to be more than just a date, that there are alignments of several
things on that day.
Also isn't the 28th of January the day of the State of the Union Speech?
Just keep an open mind. If it does happen on that date, realise that the
fact that "Mr G W Bush" = 666 and also that...
"G W Bush" has the exact same value as "The Beast" in the code, as well as
"43rd American" = 666, "American Beast" = 666 and yes, the number "43rd" is
the same value as "Beast", oh yeah and "America" is the same value as
"Bush".
This code also shows that "Jesus" is the same value as "Messiah", "Cross",
"Gospel" and "English"
and that "Holy Spirit" is the same value "Jesus Christ", "Jesus is Lord",
"Lord of Hosts" and "Gods Calculator".
So there are no accidents in these things being a sign by the creator of
languages.
PERHAPS we should pay attention?
BTW, when this does happen, worship GOD and him alone serve.
PEace
http://beast666.webhop.info
http://bush.webhop.info
http://jupiter.webhop.info
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| User: "stone" |
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| Title: Re: Will Bush Fall to the 20 Year Curse? |
01 Nov 2004 09:54:16 PM |
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Ray wrote in message ...
"stone" <antiaging@ineedhits-mail.com> wrote in message
news:4185359a_1@news1.uncensored-news.com...
Ecclesiastes 3:1 To every thing there is a season, and a time to every
purpose under the heaven:
Ecclesiastes 3:15 That which hath been is now; and that which is to be
hath
already been; and God requireth that which is past.
This is the Bible way of saying that history repeats itself and things
happen in cycles. There is a very old superstition in the United States
and
it is based on fact. Every American president [except Ronald Reagan] that
was elected on a 20 year period died before he left office, either by
assasination or natural causes, from the president before Abe Lincoln
until
now. And someone tried to kill Ronald Reagan but the bullet didn't kill
him
and he was saved in the hospital. You can trace this back to around 1840.
[It refers to presidents elected, for example, in 1900, 1920, 1940,
1960, -
that is what I mean by elected on a 20 year period. Note: The Bible calls
astrology sinful to follow so don't follow after it. Nevertheless, the
astology people say that the 20 year curse is caused by a certain planet
being in a certain position at the founding of the country. President
George
Bush was elected on a 20 year period, 2000. The question is, "will
history
repeat itself, as in Ecclesiastes 3:15, and will president bush fall
victim
to the 20 year curse and die before he leaves office"? I suppose that
there
are many Muslim extremists that would love to kill themselves while
killing
president Bush. The false religion Islam tells them that they will go to
heaven if they die in a Jihad or holy war - this is false religious
teaching.
The legendary Tecumseh curse-a curse originating from the Shawnees
after
General Harrison and his forces broke the power of the Native
American
military movement in 1811at the famous battle of Tippecanoe, is
supposedly
the reason that 7 (almost 8) US presidents elected in years ending
in
zero
every 20 years have died or been killed in office, not the position
of
the
stars and planets during this nation's founding. Though some
astrologers
claim to have found an astrological correlation between the
position
of
the
stars on the dates of the deaths of the pertinent presidents, I
believe
Chief Tecumseh's "curse" is a more likely cause.
Essentially the curse foretold:
" Harrison will not win this year to be the Great Chief, but he may
win
next
year. If he does, he will not finish his term. He will die in his
office... and after him, every Great Chief chosen every 20 years
thereafter
will die."
William Henry Harrison, first president to fall victim to the curse.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/wh9.html
Sure, the Presidents elected in 1840 (W Harrison - natural causes), 1860
(Lincoln - shot), 1880 (Garfield - shot), 1900 (McKinley - shot), 1920
(Harding - natural causes), 1940 (F Roosevelt - natural causes) and 1960
(Kennedy - shot) all died in office.
Don't make fun of such curses. The Bible has definite evidence that such
a
curse will come true, if the one causing the curse believes without a
doubt
that what he says in the curse will really happen. Joshua cursed the man
that would rebuild Jericho, saying that his firstborn would die when he
started to rebuild it, and his youngest son would die when he set up the
gates. The Bible says that hundreds of years later this curse came true.
Joshua 6:26 And Joshua adjured them at that time, saying, Cursed be the
man
before the LORD, that riseth up and buildeth this city Jericho: he shall
lay
the foundation thereof in his firstborn, and in his youngest son shall he
set up the gates of it. 1 Kings 16:34 In his days did Hiel the Bethelite
build Jericho: he laid the foundation thereof in Abiram his firstborn,
and
set up the gates thereof in his youngest son Segub, according to the word
of
the LORD, which he spake by Joshua the son of Nun. Also, Jotham the son
of
Jerubaal, (Gideon) cursed Abimelech, and the men of Shechem, and years
later
his curse came true. Judges 9:19 If ye then have dealt truly and
sincerely
with Jerubbaal and with his house this day, then rejoice ye in Abimelech,
and let him also rejoice in you: Judges 9:20 But if not, let fire come
out
from Abimelech, and devour the men of Shechem, and the house of Millo;
and
let fire come out from the men of Shechem, and from the house of Millo,
and
devour Abimelech. Judges 9:23 Then God sent an evil spirit between
Abimelech
and the men of Shechem; and the men of Shechem dealt treacherously with
Abimelech: From verse 9:24 onto verse 9:55 it tells of how Abimelech and
the
men of Shechem had war with each other and how Abimelech was killed.
Judges
9:56 Thus God rendered the wickedness of Abimelech, which he did unto his
father, in slaying his seventy brethren: Judges 9:57 And all the evil of
the
men of Shechem did God render upon their heads: and upon them came the
curse
of Jotham the son of Jerubbaal. The Bible clearly shows that such a curse
will come true, if it is done with the belief that it will happen,
without
a
doubt. Mark 11:23 For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say
unto
this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall
not
doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith
shall
come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith. [Note the words,
"whosoever" and "whatsoever". It seems that this ability is for anyone,
not
just Christians.] Old Tecumseh may have had unwavering belief when he
made
this curse, if he really did make it. Nevertheless, Reagan is the only
one
yet that beat the curse and someone did try to kill him.) It is as if the
curse tried to get him but failed.
Website about the curse:
http://explorers.whyte.com/curse.htm
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Well about GWB and the 20 year curse.
If indeed he is the beast, the he will be killed by assassination and rise
again from the dead as mentioned in Revelation 13, whereby he will
possessed
by the Dragon, maybe even an empty shell (which some republicans might
think
being no different to now lol)
George W. Bush is definitely not the Beast. I don't suspect the beast to
even come into power within the next 20 years. The Ezekiel 38 and 39
prophecy will be fulfilled before the tribulation period and possibly before
the beast even comes to power.
The prophecies about the beast or antichrist are for the last 7 years till
the end of the world. We are no where near that close to the end yet.
I believe that the seat of the beast is here. The antichrist (or beast) will
be the last one to occupy this seat.
The seat of the beast is probably the vatican, since the beast will be a
Roman ruler and the vatican rules rome. The vatican rules the catholic
president of Italy; the vatican rules over all catholics.
The following quotes show just how far the churches of today have strayed
from the wisdom of their founding fathers.
Martin Luther
(1483-1546) (Lutheran)
"We here are of the conviction that the papacy is the seat of the true and
real Antichrist...personally I declare that I owe the Pope no other
obedience than that to Antichrist." (Aug. 18, 1520) Taken from "The
Prophetic Faith of Our Fathers," Vol. 2, pg. 121 by Froom.
John Calvin
(1509-1564) (Presbyterian)
"Some persons think us too severe and censorious when we call the Roman
pontiff Antichrist. But those who are of this opinion do not consider that
they bring the same charge of presumption against Paul himself, after whom
we speak and whose language we adopt...I shall briefly show that (Paul's
words in II Thess. 2) are not capable of any other interpretation than that
which applies them to the Papacy." Taken from "Institutes" by John Calvin.
Cotton Mather
(1663-1728) (Congregational Theologian)
"The oracles of God foretold the rising of an Antichrist in the Christian
Church; and in the Pope of Rome, all the characteristics of that Antichrist
are so marvelously answered that if any who read the Scriptures do not see
it, there is a marvelous blindness upon them." Taken from "The Fall of
Babylon" by Cotton Mather in Froom's book "The Prophetic Faith of Our
Fathers," Vol. 3, pg. 113.
John Knox
(1505-1572) (Scotch Presbyterian)
Knox wrote to abolish "that tyranny which the pope himself has for so many
ages exercised over the church" and that the pope should be recognized as
"the very antichrist, and son of perdition, of whom Paul speaks." Taken from
"The Zurich Letters" pg. 199 by John Knox.
Thomas Cranmer
(1489-1556) (Anglican)
"Whereof it followeth Rome to be the seat of antichrist, and the pope to be
very antichrist himself. I could prove the same by many other scriptures,
old writers, and strong reasons." (Referring to prophecies in Revelation and
Daniel.) Taken from "Works" by Cranmer, Vol. 1, pp. 6-7.
John Wesley
(1703-1791) (Methodist)
Speaking of the Papacy he said, "He is in an emphatical sense, the Man of
Sin, as he increases all manner of sin above measure. And he is, too,
properly styled the Son of Perdition, as he has caused the death of
numberless multitudes, both of his opposers and followers...He it is...that
exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is
worshiped...claiming the highest power, and highest honor...claiming the
prerogatives which belong to God alone." Taken from "Antichrist and His Ten
Kingdoms" by John Wesley, pg. 110.
Roger William
(1603-1683) (First Baptist Pastor in America)
He spoke of the Pope as "the pretended Vicar of Christ on earth, who sits as
God over the Temple of God, exalting himself not only above all that is
called God, but over the souls and consciences of all his vessals, yea over
the Spirit of Christ, over the Holy Spirit, yea, and God himself...speaking
against the God of heaven, thinking to changed times and laws: but he is the
son of perdition (II Thess. 2)." Taken from "The Prophetic Faith of Our
Fathers" by Froom, Vol. 3, pg. 52.
Quoted from GREAT PROPHECIES OF THE BIBLE by Woodrow.
©1984-2001 Chick Publications, Inc. All rights reserved
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According to the time system of the final seven of Daniels 70 x 7 years, it
starts with a peace treaty (Road MAp to Peace). Even if that happened next
week, it would mean that Bush would have to be re-elected in 2008 for his
third term.
Personally I feel there is much evidence in calculations to it fitting in
with the Mayan end of calendar date as the end of the final 7 years (7 x
360
days = 42 x 30 x 2), split into 2 lots of 42 months.
This has the peace treaty being on the 28th of January, 2006, and him
rising
from the dead about the 11th of July 2009. Which puts two major dates for
assassination attempt on the 4th of July and his birthday the 6th of July.
Incidentally, the two war gods of Mars (Roman) and Aries (Greek) both align
up exactly on this Peace Treaty date of the 28th of January. Which
incidentally is the 20th year of Space Shuttle Challenger. Ironically in my
time zone it is my 42nd birthday, starting the first of two lots of 42
months. A coincidence? Time will tell. There are only some factors which
show it to be more than just a date, that there are alignments of several
things on that day.
Also isn't the 28th of January the day of the State of the Union Speech?
Just keep an open mind. If it does happen on that date, realise that the
fact that "Mr G W Bush" = 666 and also that...
"G W Bush" has the exact same value as "The Beast" in the code, as well as
"43rd American" = 666, "American Beast" = 666 and yes, the number "43rd" is
the same value as "Beast", oh yeah and "America" is the same value as
"Bush".
This code also shows that "Jesus" is the same value as "Messiah", "Cross",
"Gospel" and "English"
and that "Holy Spirit" is the same value "Jesus Christ", "Jesus is Lord",
"Lord of Hosts" and "Gods Calculator".
So there are no accidents in these things being a sign by the creator of
languages.
PERHAPS we should pay attention?
BTW, when this does happen, worship GOD and him alone serve.
PEace
http://beast666.webhop.info
http://bush.webhop.info
http://jupiter.webhop.info
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In Rev.13, one of his *heads* (Bradly) would be mortally wounded, but be
healed
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Ecclesiastes 3:1 To every thing there is a season, and a time to every
purpose under the heaven:
Ecclesiastes 3:15 That which hath been is now; and that which is to be
hath
already been; and God requireth that which is past.
This is the Bible way of saying that history repeats itself and things
happen in cycles. There is a very old superstition in the United States
and
it is based on fact. Every American president [except Ronald Reagan]
that
was elected on a 20 year period died before he left office, either by
assasination or natural causes, from the president before Abe Lincoln
until
now. And someone tried to kill Ronald Reagan but the bullet didn't kill
him
and he was saved in the hospital. You can trace this back to around
1840.
[It refers to presidents elected, for example, in 1900, 1920, 1940,
1960, -
that is what I mean by elected on a 20 year period. Note: The Bible
calls
astrology sinful to follow so don't follow after it. Nevertheless, the
astology people say that the 20 year curse is caused by a certain planet
being in a certain position at the founding of the country. President
George
Bush was elected on a 20 year period, 2000. The question is, "will
history
repeat itself, as in Ecclesiastes 3:15, and will president bush fall
victim
to the 20 year curse and die before he leaves office"? I suppose that
there
are many Muslim extremists that would love to kill themselves while
killing
president Bush. The false religion Islam tells them that they will go to
heaven if they die in a Jihad or holy war - this is false religious
teaching.
The legendary Tecumseh curse-a curse originating from the Shawnees
after
General Harrison and his forces broke the power of the Native
American
military movement in 1811at the famous battle of Tippecanoe, is
supposedly
the reason that 7 (almost 8) US presidents elected in years ending
in
zero
every 20 years have died or been killed in office, not the
position
of
the
stars and planets during this nation's founding. Though some
astrologers
claim to have found an astrological correlation between the
position
of
the
stars on the dates of the deaths of the pertinent presidents, I
believe
Chief Tecumseh's "curse" is a more likely cause.
Essentially the curse foretold:
" Harrison will not win this year to be the Great Chief, but he
may
win
next
year. If he does, he will not finish his term. He will die in
his
office... and after him, every Great Chief chosen every 20 years
thereafter
will die."
William Henry Harrison, first president to fall victim to the curse.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/wh9.html
Sure, the Presidents elected in 1840 (W Harrison - natural causes), 1860
(Lincoln - shot), 1880 (Garfield - shot), 1900 (McKinley - shot), 1920
(Harding - natural causes), 1940 (F Roosevelt - natural causes) and 1960
(Kennedy - shot) all died in office.
Don't make fun of such curses. The Bible has definite evidence that such
a
curse will come true, if the one causing the curse believes without a
doubt
that what he says in the curse will really happen. Joshua cursed the man
that would rebuild Jericho, saying that his firstborn would die when he
started to rebuild it, and his youngest son would die when he set up the
gates. The Bible says that hundreds of years later this curse came true.
Joshua 6:26 And Joshua adjured them at that time, saying, Cursed be the
man
before the LORD, that riseth up and buildeth this city Jericho: he shall
lay
the foundation thereof in his firstborn, and in his youngest son shall
he
set up the gates of it. 1 Kings 16:34 In his days did Hiel the Bethelite
build Jericho: he laid the foundation thereof in Abiram his firstborn,
and
set up the gates thereof in his youngest son Segub, according to the
word
of
the LORD, which he spake by Joshua the son of Nun. Also, Jotham the son
of
Jerubaal, (Gideon) cursed Abimelech, and the men of Shechem, and years
later
his curse came true. Judges 9:19 If ye then have dealt truly and
sincerely
with Jerubbaal and with his house this day, then rejoice ye in
Abimelech,
and let him also rejoice in you: Judges 9:20 But if not, let fire come
out
from Abimelech, and devour the men of Shechem, and the house of Millo;
and
let fire come out from the men of Shechem, and from the house of Millo,
and
devour Abimelech. Judges 9:23 Then God sent an evil spirit between
Abimelech
and the men of Shechem; and the men of Shechem dealt treacherously with
Abimelech: From verse 9:24 onto verse 9:55 it tells of how Abimelech and
the
men of Shechem had war with each other and how Abimelech was killed.
Judges
9:56 Thus God rendered the wickedness of Abimelech, which he did unto
his
father, in slaying his seventy brethren: Judges 9:57 And all the evil of
the
men of Shechem did God render upon their heads: and upon them came the
curse
of Jotham the son of Jerubbaal. The Bible clearly shows that such a
curse
will come true, if it is done with the belief that it will happen,
without
a
doubt. Mark 11:23 For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say
unto
this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall
not
doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith
shall
come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith. [Note the words,
"whosoever" and "whatsoever". It seems that this ability is for anyone,
not
just Christians.] Old Tecumseh may have had unwavering belief when he
made
this curse, if he really did make it. Nevertheless, Reagan is the only
one
yet that beat the curse and someone did try to kill him.) It is as if
the
curse tried to get him but failed.
Website about the curse:
http://explorers.whyte.com/curse.htm
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Well about GWB and the 20 year curse.
If indeed he is the beast, the he will be killed by assassination and rise
again from the dead as mentioned in Revelation 13, whereby he will
possessed
by the Dragon, maybe even an empty shell (which some republicans might
think
being no different to now lol)
George W. Bush is definitely not the Beast. I don't suspect the beast to
even come into power within the next 20 years. The Ezekiel 38 and 39
prophecy will be fulfilled before the tribulation period and possibly
before
the beast even comes to power.
The prophecies about the beast or antichrist are for the last 7 years till
the end of the world. We are no where near that close to the end yet.
I believe that the seat of the beast is here. The antichrist (or beast)
will
be the last one to occupy this seat.
The seat of the beast is probably the vatican, since the beast will be a
Roman ruler and the vatican rules rome. The vatican rules the catholic
president of Italy; the vatican rules over all catholics.
The following quotes show just how far the churches of today have strayed
from the wisdom of their founding fathers.
Martin Luther
(1483-1546) (Lutheran)
"We here are of the conviction that the papacy is the seat of the true and
real Antichrist...personally I declare that I owe the Pope no other
obedience than that to Antichrist." (Aug. 18, 1520) Taken from "The
Prophetic Faith of Our Fathers," Vol. 2, pg. 121 by Froom.
John Calvin
(1509-1564) (Presbyterian)
"Some persons think us too severe and censorious when we call the Roman
pontiff Antichrist. But those who are of this opinion do not consider that
they bring the same charge of presumption against Paul himself, after whom
we speak and whose language we adopt...I shall briefly show that (Paul's
words in II Thess. 2) are not capable of any other interpretation than
that
which applies them to the Papacy." Taken from "Institutes" by John Calvin.
Cotton Mather
(1663-1728) (Congregational Theologian)
"The oracles of God foretold the rising of an Antichrist in the Christian
Church; and in the Pope of Rome, all the characteristics of that
Antichrist
are so marvelously answered that if any who read the Scriptures do not see
it, there is a marvelous blindness upon them." Taken from "The Fall of
Babylon" by Cotton Mather in Froom's book "The Prophetic Faith of Our
Fathers," Vol. 3, pg. 113.
John Knox
(1505-1572) (Scotch Presbyterian)
Knox wrote to abolish "that tyranny which the pope himself has for so many
ages exercised over the church" and that the pope should be recognized as
"the very antichrist, and son of perdition, of whom Paul speaks." Taken
from
"The Zurich Letters" pg. 199 by John Knox.
Thomas Cranmer
(1489-1556) (Anglican)
"Whereof it followeth Rome to be the seat of antichrist, and the pope to
be
very antichrist himself. I could prove the same by many other scriptures,
old writers, and strong reasons." (Referring to prophecies in Revelation
and
Daniel.) Taken from "Works" by Cranmer, Vol. 1, pp. 6-7.
John Wesley
(1703-1791) (Methodist)
Speaking of the Papacy he said, "He is in an emphatical sense, the Man of
Sin, as he increases all manner of sin above measure. And he is, too,
properly styled the Son of Perdition, as he has caused the death of
numberless multitudes, both of his opposers and followers...He it
is...that
exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is
worshiped...claiming the highest power, and highest honor...claiming the
prerogatives which belong to God alone." Taken from "Antichrist and His
Ten
Kingdoms" by John Wesley, pg. 110.
Roger William
(1603-1683) (First Baptist Pastor in America)
He spoke of the Pope as "the pretended Vicar of Christ on earth, who sits
as
God over the Temple of God, exalting himself not only above all that is
called God, but over the souls and consciences of all his vessals, yea
over
the Spirit of Christ, over the Holy Spirit, yea, and God
himself...speaking
against the God of heaven, thinking to changed times and laws: but he is
the
son of perdition (II Thess. 2)." Taken from "The Prophetic Faith of Our
Fathers" by Froom, Vol. 3, pg. 52.
Quoted from GREAT PROPHECIES OF THE BIBLE by Woodrow.
©1984-2001 Chick Publications, Inc. All rights reserved
/
According to the time system of the final seven of Daniels 70 x 7 years,
it
starts with a peace treaty (Road MAp to Peace). Even if that happened next
week, it would mean that Bush would have to be re-elected in 2008 for his
third term.
Personally I feel there is much evidence in calculations to it fitting in
with the Mayan end of calendar date as the end of the final 7 years (7 x
360
days = 42 x 30 x 2), split into 2 lots of 42 months.
This has the peace treaty being on the 28th of January, 2006, and him
rising
from the dead about the 11th of July 2009. Which puts two major dates for
assassination attempt on the 4th of July and his birthday the 6th of July.
Incidentally, the two war gods of Mars (Roman) and Aries (Greek) both
align
up exactly on this Peace Treaty date of the 28th of January. Which
incidentally is the 20th year of Space Shuttle Challenger. Ironically in
my
time zone it is my 42nd birthday, starting the first of two lots of 42
months. A coincidence? Time will tell. There are only some factors which
show it to be more than just a date, that there are alignments of several
things on that day.
Also isn't the 28th of January the day of the State of the Union Speech?
Just keep an open mind. If it does happen on that date, realise that the
fact that "Mr G W Bush" = 666 and also that...
"G W Bush" has the exact same value as "The Beast" in the code, as well as
"43rd American" = 666, "American Beast" = 666 and yes, the number "43rd"
is
the same value as "Beast", oh yeah and "America" is the same value as
"Bush".
This code also shows that "Jesus" is the same value as "Messiah", "Cross",
"Gospel" and "English"
and that "Holy Spirit" is the same value "Jesus Christ", "Jesus is Lord",
"Lord of Hosts" and "Gods Calculator".
So there are no accidents in these things being a sign by the creator of
languages.
PERHAPS we should pay attention?
BTW, when this does happen, worship GOD and him alone serve.
PEace
http://beast666.webhop.info
http://bush.webhop.info
http://jupiter.webhop.info
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31 Oct 2004 01:18:55 PM |
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"stone" <antiaging@ineedhits-mail.com> wrote in message
news:4185359a_1@news1.uncensored-news.com...
Ecclesiastes 3:1 To every thing there is a season, and a time to every
purpose under the heaven:
Ecclesiastes 3:15 That which hath been is now; and that which is to be
hath
already been; and God requireth that which is past.
This is the Bible way of saying that history repeats itself and things
happen in cycles. There is a very old superstition in the United States
and
it is based on fact. Every American president [except Ronald Reagan] that
was elected on a 20 year period died before he left office, either by
assasination or natural causes, from the president before Abe Lincoln
until
now. And someone tried to kill Ronald Reagan but the bullet didn't kill
him
and he was saved in the hospital. You can trace this back to around 1840.
[It refers to presidents elected, for example, in 1900, 1920, 1940,
1960, -
that is what I mean by elected on a 20 year period. Note: The Bible calls
astrology sinful to follow so don't follow after it. Nevertheless, the
astology people say that the 20 year curse is caused by a certain planet
being in a certain position at the founding of the country. President
George
Bush was elected on a 20 year period, 2000. The question is, "will history
repeat itself, as in Ecclesiastes 3:15, and will president bush fall
victim
to the 20 year curse and die before he leaves office"? I suppose that
there
are many Muslim extremists that would love to kill themselves while
killing
president Bush. The false religion Islam tells them that they will go to
heaven if they die in a Jihad or holy war - this is false religious
teaching.
No! When a curse is broken it can not be reinstated. Curses are spawned by
the evil one and we as servants of G-d can defeat them.
Proverbs 26:2 As the bird by wandering, as the swallow by flying, so the
curse causeless shall not come.
Cleo
The legendary Tecumseh curse-a curse originating from the Shawnees
after
General Harrison and his forces broke the power of the Native
American
military movement in 1811at the famous battle of Tippecanoe, is
supposedly
the reason that 7 (almost 8) US presidents elected in years ending
in
zero
every 20 years have died or been killed in office, not the position
of
the
stars and planets during this nation's founding. Though some
astrologers
claim to have found an astrological correlation between the position
of
the
stars on the dates of the deaths of the pertinent presidents, I
believe
Chief Tecumseh's "curse" is a more likely cause.
Essentially the curse foretold:
" Harrison will not win this year to be the Great Chief, but he may
win
next
year. If he does, he will not finish his term. He will die in his
office... and after him, every Great Chief chosen every 20 years
thereafter
will die."
William Henry Harrison, first president to fall victim to the curse.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/wh9.html
Sure, the Presidents elected in 1840 (W Harrison - natural causes), 1860
(Lincoln - shot), 1880 (Garfield - shot), 1900 (McKinley - shot), 1920
(Harding - natural causes), 1940 (F Roosevelt - natural causes) and 1960
(Kennedy - shot) all died in office.
Don't make fun of such curses. The Bible has definite evidence that such a
curse will come true, if the one causing the curse believes without a
doubt
that what he says in the curse will really happen. Joshua cursed the man
that would rebuild Jericho, saying that his firstborn would die when he
started to rebuild it, and his youngest son would die when he set up the
gates. The Bible says that hundreds of years later this curse came true.
Joshua 6:26 And Joshua adjured them at that time, saying, Cursed be the
man
before the LORD, that riseth up and buildeth this city Jericho: he shall
lay
the foundation thereof in his firstborn, and in his youngest son shall he
set up the gates of it. 1 Kings 16:34 In his days did Hiel the Bethelite
build Jericho: he laid the foundation thereof in Abiram his firstborn, and
set up the gates thereof in his youngest son Segub, according to the word
of
the LORD, which he spake by Joshua the son of Nun. Also, Jotham the son of
Jerubaal, (Gideon) cursed Abimelech, and the men of Shechem, and years
later
his curse came true. Judges 9:19 If ye then have dealt truly and sincerely
with Jerubbaal and with his house this day, then rejoice ye in Abimelech,
and let him also rejoice in you: Judges 9:20 But if not, let fire come out
from Abimelech, and devour the men of Shechem, and the house of Millo; and
let fire come out from the men of Shechem, and from the house of Millo,
and
devour Abimelech. Judges 9:23 Then God sent an evil spirit between
Abimelech
and the men of Shechem; and the men of Shechem dealt treacherously with
Abimelech: From verse 9:24 onto verse 9:55 it tells of how Abimelech and
the
men of Shechem had war with each other and how Abimelech was killed.
Judges
9:56 Thus God rendered the wickedness of Abimelech, which he did unto his
father, in slaying his seventy brethren: Judges 9:57 And all the evil of
the
men of Shechem did God render upon their heads: and upon them came the
curse
of Jotham the son of Jerubbaal. The Bible clearly shows that such a curse
will come true, if it is done with the belief that it will happen, without
a
doubt. Mark 11:23 For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto
this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall
not
doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith
shall
come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith. [Note the words,
"whosoever" and "whatsoever". It seems that this ability is for anyone,
not
just Christians.] Old Tecumseh may have had unwavering belief when he made
this curse, if he really did make it. Nevertheless, Reagan is the only one
yet that beat the curse and someone did try to kill him.) It is as if the
curse tried to get him but failed.
Website about the curse:
http://explorers.whyte.com/curse.htm
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"stone" <antiaging@ineedhits-mail.com> wrote in message
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Bush was elected on a 20 year period, 2000. The question is, "will
history
repeat itself, as in Ecclesiastes 3:15, and will president bush fall
victim
to the 20 year curse and die before he leaves office"?
One can only hope, as well as taking Cheney along with him.
cont
I suppose that
there
are many Muslim extremists that would love to kill themselves while
killing
president Bush.
There are NO Muslim terrorists in this nation, the power elite do all of the
planning, orchestrating, financing and implementing all terrorism against
the US. However, if Bush steps out of line with the New World Order, the CIA
will snuff him out, like they did Kennedy.
www.dorewilliamson.com/kennedy.com
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Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com
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Ecclesiastes 3:1 To every thing there is a season, and a time to every
purpose under the heaven:
Ecclesiastes 3:15 That which hath been is now; and that which is to be
hath
already been; and God requireth that which is past.
This is the Bible way of saying that history repeats itself and things
happen in cycles. There is a very old superstition in the United States
and
it is based on fact. Every American president [except Ronald Reagan]
that
was elected on a 20 year period died before he left office, either by
assasination or natural causes, from the president before Abe Lincoln
until
now. And someone tried to kill Ronald Reagan but the bullet didn't kill
him
and he was saved in the hospital. You can trace this back to around
1840.
[It refers to presidents elected, for example, in 1900, 1920, 1940,
1960, -
that is what I mean by elected on a 20 year period. Note: The Bible
calls
astrology sinful to follow so don't follow after it. Nevertheless, the
astology people say that the 20 year curse is caused by a certain planet
being in a certain position at the founding of the country. President
George
Bush was elected on a 20 year period, 2000. The question is, "will
history
repeat itself, as in Ecclesiastes 3:15, and will president bush fall
victim
to the 20 year curse and die before he leaves office"? I suppose that
there
are many Muslim extremists that would love to kill themselves while
killing
president Bush. The false religion Islam tells them that they will go to
heaven if they die in a Jihad or holy war - this is false religious
teaching.
No! When a curse is broken it can not be reinstated. Curses are spawned by
the evil one and we as servants of G-d can defeat them.
Proverbs 26:2 As the bird by wandering, as the swallow by flying, so the
curse causeless shall not come.
Cleo
The legendary Tecumseh curse-a curse originating from the Shawnees
after
General Harrison and his forces broke the power of the Native
American
military movement in 1811at the famous battle of Tippecanoe, is
supposedly
the reason that 7 (almost 8) US presidents elected in years ending
in
zero
every 20 years have died or been killed in office, not the
position
of
the
stars and planets during this nation's founding. Though some
astrologers
claim to have found an astrological correlation between the
position
of
the
stars on the dates of the deaths of the pertinent presidents, I
believe
Chief Tecumseh's "curse" is a more likely cause.
Essentially the curse foretold:
" Harrison will not win this year to be the Great Chief, but he
may
win
next
year. If he does, he will not finish his term. He will die in
his
office... and after him, every Great Chief chosen every 20 years
thereafter
will die."
William Henry Harrison, first president to fall victim to the curse.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/wh9.html
Sure, the Presidents elected in 1840 (W Harrison - natural causes), 1860
(Lincoln - shot), 1880 (Garfield - shot), 1900 (McKinley - shot), 1920
(Harding - natural causes), 1940 (F Roosevelt - natural causes) and 1960
(Kennedy - shot) all died in office.
Don't make fun of such curses. The Bible has definite evidence that such
a
curse will come true, if the one causing the curse believes without a
doubt
that what he says in the curse will really happen. Joshua cursed the man
that would rebuild Jericho, saying that his firstborn would die when he
started to rebuild it, and his youngest son would die when he set up the
gates. The Bible says that hundreds of years later this curse came true.
Joshua 6:26 And Joshua adjured them at that time, saying, Cursed be the
man
before the LORD, that riseth up and buildeth this city Jericho: he shall
lay
the foundation thereof in his firstborn, and in his youngest son shall
he
set up the gates of it. 1 Kings 16:34 In his days did Hiel the Bethelite
build Jericho: he laid the foundation thereof in Abiram his firstborn,
and
set up the gates thereof in his youngest son Segub, according to the
word
of
the LORD, which he spake by Joshua the son of Nun. Also, Jotham the son
of
Jerubaal, (Gideon) cursed Abimelech, and the men of Shechem, and years
later
his curse came true. Judges 9:19 If ye then have dealt truly and
sincerely
with Jerubbaal and with his house this day, then rejoice ye in
Abimelech,
and let him also rejoice in you: Judges 9:20 But if not, let fire come
out
from Abimelech, and devour the men of Shechem, and the house of Millo;
and
let fire come out from the men of Shechem, and from the house of Millo,
and
devour Abimelech. Judges 9:23 Then God sent an evil spirit between
Abimelech
and the men of Shechem; and the men of Shechem dealt treacherously with
Abimelech: From verse 9:24 onto verse 9:55 it tells of how Abimelech and
the
men of Shechem had war with each other and how Abimelech was killed.
Judges
9:56 Thus God rendered the wickedness of Abimelech, which he did unto
his
father, in slaying his seventy brethren: Judges 9:57 And all the evil of
the
men of Shechem did God render upon their heads: and upon them came the
curse
of Jotham the son of Jerubbaal. The Bible clearly shows that such a
curse
will come true, if it is done with the belief that it will happen,
without
a
doubt. Mark 11:23 For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say
unto
this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall
not
doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith
shall
come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith. [Note the words,
"whosoever" and "whatsoever". It seems that this ability is for anyone,
not
just Christians.] Old Tecumseh may have had unwavering belief when he
made
this curse, if he really did make it. Nevertheless, Reagan is the only
one
yet that beat the curse and someone did try to kill him.) It is as if
the
curse tried to get him but failed.
Website about the curse:
http://explorers.whyte.com/curse.htm
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"Dore" wrote
:> "stone" wrote
:
: > Bush was elected on a 20 year period, 2000. The question is, "will
: history
: > > repeat itself, as in Ecclesiastes 3:15, and will president bush fall
: > victim
: > > to the 20 year curse and die before he leaves office"?
:
: One can only hope, as well as taking Cheney along with him.
*How cruel!
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If there is but one religion, why do you white people differ so much about
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*How cruel!
Oh, so you think that SATAN should live and be as evil, corrupt, abusive,
enslaving, murdering, warmongering, controlling, deceptive, lying and
stealing as much as he wants? If not, then why would you want his servants,
who DO the same things, to live as well? I suppose evil deserves NO
justice?
--
Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com
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"Dore" wrote
:> "stone" wrote
:
: > Bush was elected on a 20 year period, 2000. The question is, "will
: history
: > > repeat itself, as in Ecclesiastes 3:15, and will president bush fall
: > victim
: > > to the 20 year curse and die before he leaves office"?
:
: One can only hope, as well as taking Cheney along with him.
*How cruel!
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Spirit.
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*How cruel!
Oh, so you think that SATAN should live and be as evil, corrupt, abusive,
enslaving, murdering, warmongering, controlling, deceptive, lying and
stealing as much as he wants? If not, then why would you want his
servants,
who DO the same things, to live as well? I suppose evil deserves NO
justice?
--
Dore
Why is it that the American meaning of Justice seems to be REVENGE.
It seems that the ISLAMIC idea is much the same.
God says I will repay.
To me a JUST God is one who knows my heart and realises that injustice has
occured to many times where I have been falsley accused and falsely
punished. Justice is about the truth. Justice is about me being vindicated.
It is not about me avenging or having those which mistakenly accused me
suffer.
It is about showing them they were wrong when they punished me, thinking
they were doing justice.
Why would God desire us to forgive one another, and even tell us that unless
we forgive we cannot be forgiven, (which is the point of many parables), if
forgiveness was not a major issue. For God forgives all who ask with a
contrite heart. So true JUSTICE is about us all realising the truth. About
God putting us straight. For in the name of doing right, so much wrong has
been done, and often with the best of intentions.
Thank God that HE KNOWS the Truth.
PEace
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06 Nov 2004 11:52:05 PM |
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"Ray" <raymokeeffe@888hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Why is it that the American meaning of Justice seems to be REVENGE.
It seems that the ISLAMIC idea is much the same.
God says I will repay.
So we should let and allow ALL criminals, rapists, murderers, thieves etc
walk the streets waiting for God to do something about it?
cont
To me a JUST God is one who knows my heart and realises that injustice has
occured to many times where I have been falsley accused and falsely
punished. Justice is about the truth. Justice is about me being
vindicated.
It is not about me avenging or having those which mistakenly accused me
suffer.
It is about showing them they were wrong when they punished me, thinking
they were doing justice.
We are not talking about you and the common man, we are talking about the
power elite who are SATANISTS, the servants of the BEAST, that are ruling
the world and abusing, oppressing, lying, deceiving, murdering,
brainwashing, manipulating, controlling and doing every evil imaginable to
the people, WITHOUT CONSCIENCE, and getting away with it. The power elite
are NOT like you. They are corrupt and evil to the maximum degree. And just
LIKE SATAN, whom they serve and worship, deserve NO mercy.
cont
Why would God desire us to forgive one another, and even tell us that
unless
we forgive we cannot be forgiven, (which is the point of many parables),
if
forgiveness was not a major issue. For God forgives all who ask with a
contrite heart. So true JUSTICE is about us all realising the truth. About
God putting us straight. For in the name of doing right, so much wrong has
been done, and often with the best of intentions.
Thank God that HE KNOWS the Truth.
Then open up the prisons and let everyone out, for justice is about
forgiveness and mercy and ALL EVIL, UNREPENTED, doesn't deserve JUSTICE?
Isa 59:1-18
59:1 Behold, the LORD's hand is not shortened, that it cannot save; neither
his ear heavy, that it cannot hear:
2 But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins
have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.
3 For your hands are defiled with blood, and your fingers with iniquity;
your lips have spoken lies, your tongue hath muttered perverseness.
4 None calleth for justice, nor any pleadeth for truth: they trust in
vanity, and speak lies; they conceive mischief, and bring forth iniquity.
5 They hatch cockatrice' eggs, and weave the spider's web: he that eateth of
their eggs dieth, and that which is crushed breaketh out into a viper.
6 Their webs shall not become garments, neither shall they cover themselves
with their works: their works are works of iniquity, and the act of violence
is in their hands.
7 Their feet run to evil, and they make hast to shed innocent blood: their
thoughts are thoughts of iniquity; wasting and destruction are in their
paths.
8 The way of peace they know not; and there is no judgment in their goings:
they have made them crooked paths: whosoever goeth therein shall not know
peace.
9 Therefore is judgment far from us, neither doth justice overtake us: we
wait for light, but behold obscurity; for brightness, but we walk in
darkness.
10 We grope for the wall like the blind, and we grope as if we had no eyes:
we stumble at noonday as in the night; we are in desolate places as dead
men.
11 We roar all like bears, and mourn sore like doves: we look for judgment,
but there is none; for salvation, but it is far off from us.
12 For our transgressions are multiplied before thee, and our sins testify
against us: for our transgressions are with us; and as for our iniquities,
we know them;
13 In transgressing and lying against the LORD, and departing away from our
God, speaking oppression and revolt, conceiving and uttering from the heart
words of falsehood.
14 And judgment is turned away backward, and justice standeth afar off: for
truth is fallen in the street, and equity cannot enter.
15 Yea, truth faileth; and he that departeth from evil maketh himself a
prey: and the LORD saw it, and it displeased him that there was no judgment.
16 And he saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no
intercessor: therefore his arm brought salvation unto him; and his
righteousness, it sustained him.
17 For he put on righteousness as a breastplate, and an helmet of salvation
upon his head; and he put on the garments of vengeance for clothing, and was
clad with zeal as a cloke.
18 According to their deeds, accordingly he will repay, fury to his
adversaries, recompence to his enemies; to the islands he will repay
recompence.
KJV
Rev 19:11-16
11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon
him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and
make war.
12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and
he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called
The Word of God.
14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses,
clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite
the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the
winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF
KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
KJV
Isa 13:3-13
3 I have commanded my sanctified ones, I have also called my mighty ones for
mine anger, even them that rejoice in my highness.
4 The noise of a multitude in the mountains, like as of a great people; a
tumultuous noise of the kingdoms of nations gathered together: the LORD of
hosts mustereth the host of the battle.
5 They come from a far country, from the end of heaven, even the LORD, and
the weapons of his indignation, to destroy the whole land.
6 Howl ye; for the day of the LORD is at hand; it shall come as a
destruction from the Almighty.
7 Therefore shall all hands be faint, and every man's heart shall melt:
8 And they shall be afraid: pangs and sorrows shall take hold of them; they
shall be in pain as a woman that travaileth: they shall be amazed one at
another; their faces shall be as flames.
9 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce
anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof
out of it.
10 For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give
their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon
shall not cause her light to shine.
11 And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their
iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay
low the haughtiness of the terrible.
12 I will make a man more precious than fine gold; even a man than the
golden wedge of Ophir.
13 Therefore I will shake the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of her
place, in the wrath of the LORD of hosts, and in the day of his fierce
anger.
KJV
You may forgive and provide mercy to the evil ones, but I don't have to.
--
Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com
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"Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote in message
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"Big Bear" <yuengling.blackandtan@msn.com> wrote in message
news:418c1c6c$1_4@127.0.0.1...
*How cruel!
Oh, so you think that SATAN should live and be as evil, corrupt,
abusive,
enslaving, murdering, warmongering, controlling, deceptive, lying and
stealing as much as he wants? If not, then why would you want his
servants,
who DO the same things, to live as well? I suppose evil deserves NO
justice?
--
Dore
Why is it that the American meaning of Justice seems to be REVENGE.
It seems that the ISLAMIC idea is much the same.
God says I will repay.
To me a JUST God is one who knows my heart and realises that injustice has
occured to many times where I have been falsley accused and falsely
punished. Justice is about the truth. Justice is about me being
vindicated.
It is not about me avenging or having those which mistakenly accused me
suffer.
It is about showing them they were wrong when they punished me, thinking
they were doing justice.
Why would God desire us to forgive one another, and even tell us that
unless
we forgive we cannot be forgiven, (which is the point of many parables),
if
forgiveness was not a major issue. For God forgives all who ask with a
contrite heart. So true JUSTICE is about us all realising the truth. About
God putting us straight. For in the name of doing right, so much wrong has
been done, and often with the best of intentions.
Thank God that HE KNOWS the Truth.
PEace
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14 Oct 2005 06:21:55 PM |
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We may have to obey what Jesus taught us, but *you* don't have to... got it
!
"Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote in message
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"Ray" <raymokeeffe@888hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Why is it that the American meaning of Justice seems to be REVENGE.
It seems that the ISLAMIC idea is much the same.
God says I will repay.
So we should let and allow ALL criminals, rapists, murderers, thieves etc
walk the streets waiting for God to do something about it?
cont
To me a JUST God is one who knows my heart and realises that injustice
has
occured to many times where I have been falsley accused and falsely
punished. Justice is about the truth. Justice is about me being
vindicated.
It is not about me avenging or having those which mistakenly accused me
suffer.
It is about showing them they were wrong when they punished me, thinking
they were doing justice.
We are not talking about you and the common man, we are talking about the
power elite who are SATANISTS, the servants of the BEAST, that are ruling
the world and abusing, oppressing, lying, deceiving, murdering,
brainwashing, manipulating, controlling and doing every evil imaginable to
the people, WITHOUT CONSCIENCE, and getting away with it. The power elite
are NOT like you. They are corrupt and evil to the maximum degree. And
just
LIKE SATAN, whom they serve and worship, deserve NO mercy.
cont
Why would God desire us to forgive one another, and even tell us that
unless
we forgive we cannot be forgiven, (which is the point of many parables),
if
forgiveness was not a major issue. For God forgives all who ask with a
contrite heart. So true JUSTICE is about us all realising the truth.
About
God putting us straight. For in the name of doing right, so much wrong
has
been done, and often with the best of intentions.
Thank God that HE KNOWS the Truth.
Then open up the prisons and let everyone out, for justice is about
forgiveness and mercy and ALL EVIL, UNREPENTED, doesn't deserve JUSTICE?
Isa 59:1-18
59:1 Behold, the LORD's hand is not shortened, that it cannot save;
neither
his ear heavy, that it cannot hear:
2 But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your
sins
have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.
3 For your hands are defiled with blood, and your fingers with iniquity;
your lips have spoken lies, your tongue hath muttered perverseness.
4 None calleth for justice, nor any pleadeth for truth: they trust in
vanity, and speak lies; they conceive mischief, and bring forth iniquity.
5 They hatch cockatrice' eggs, and weave the spider's web: he that eateth
of
their eggs dieth, and that which is crushed breaketh out into a viper.
6 Their webs shall not become garments, neither shall they cover
themselves
with their works: their works are works of iniquity, and the act of
violence
is in their hands.
7 Their feet run to evil, and they make hast to shed innocent blood: their
thoughts are thoughts of iniquity; wasting and destruction are in their
paths.
8 The way of peace they know not; and there is no judgment in their
goings:
they have made them crooked paths: whosoever goeth therein shall not know
peace.
9 Therefore is judgment far from us, neither doth justice overtake us: we
wait for light, but behold obscurity; for brightness, but we walk in
darkness.
10 We grope for the wall like the blind, and we grope as if we had no
eyes:
we stumble at noonday as in the night; we are in desolate places as dead
men.
11 We roar all like bears, and mourn sore like doves: we look for
judgment,
but there is none; for salvation, but it is far off from us.
12 For our transgressions are multiplied before thee, and our sins testify
against us: for our transgressions are with us; and as for our iniquities,
we know them;
13 In transgressing and lying against the LORD, and departing away from
our
God, speaking oppression and revolt, conceiving and uttering from the
heart
words of falsehood.
14 And judgment is turned away backward, and justice standeth afar off:
for
truth is fallen in the street, and equity cannot enter.
15 Yea, truth faileth; and he that departeth from evil maketh himself a
prey: and the LORD saw it, and it displeased him that there was no
judgment.
16 And he saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no
intercessor: therefore his arm brought salvation unto him; and his
righteousness, it sustained him.
17 For he put on righteousness as a breastplate, and an helmet of
salvation
upon his head; and he put on the garments of vengeance for clothing, and
was
clad with zeal as a cloke.
18 According to their deeds, accordingly he will repay, fury to his
adversaries, recompence to his enemies; to the islands he will repay
recompence.
KJV
Rev 19:11-16
11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon
him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and
make war.
12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and
he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is
called
The Word of God.
14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses,
clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite
the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth
the
winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF
KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
KJV
Isa 13:3-13
3 I have commanded my sanctified ones, I have also called my mighty ones
for
mine anger, even them that rejoice in my highness.
4 The noise of a multitude in the mountains, like as of a great people; a
tumultuous noise of the kingdoms of nations gathered together: the LORD of
hosts mustereth the host of the battle.
5 They come from a far country, from the end of heaven, even the LORD, and
the weapons of his indignation, to destroy the whole land.
6 Howl ye; for the day of the LORD is at hand; it shall come as a
destruction from the Almighty.
7 Therefore shall all hands be faint, and every man's heart shall melt:
8 And they shall be afraid: pangs and sorrows shall take hold of them;
they
shall be in pain as a woman that travaileth: they shall be amazed one at
another; their faces shall be as flames.
9 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce
anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof
out of it.
10 For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give
their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon
shall not cause her light to shine.
11 And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their
iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will
lay
low the haughtiness of the terrible.
12 I will make a man more precious than fine gold; even a man than the
golden wedge of Ophir.
13 Therefore I will shake the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of
her
place, in the wrath of the LORD of hosts, and in the day of his fierce
anger.
KJV
You may forgive and provide mercy to the evil ones, but I don't have to.
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Dore
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*How cruel!
Oh, so you think that SATAN should live and be as evil, corrupt,
abusive,
enslaving, murdering, warmongering, controlling, deceptive, lying and
stealing as much as he wants? If not, then why would you want his
servants,
who DO the same things, to live as well? I suppose evil deserves NO
justice?
--
Dore
Why is it that the American meaning of Justice seems to be REVENGE.
It seems that the ISLAMIC idea is much the same.
God says I will repay.
To me a JUST God is one who knows my heart and realises that injustice
has
occured to many times where I have been falsley accused and falsely
punished. Justice is about the truth. Justice is about me being
vindicated.
It is not about me avenging or having those which mistakenly accused me
suffer.
It is about showing them they were wrong when they punished me, thinking
they were doing justice.
Why would God desire us to forgive one another, and even tell us that
unless
we forgive we cannot be forgiven, (which is the point of many parables),
if
forgiveness was not a major issue. For God forgives all who ask with a
contrite heart. So true JUSTICE is about us all realising the truth.
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