Religions > Bible > Winter has changed his reference from "Pastor" to "Brother"!
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Religions > Bible |
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"Rev. BR Collins" |
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10 Jun 2007 12:02:12 AM |
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Winter has changed his reference from "Pastor" to "Brother"! |
I am getting to the bottom of the Winter's latest "cover-up"! This is
the latest one of his "hang-outs". http://www.thetruthofthebible.com/
I've got people checking around as to WHY Winter would go from
"Pastor" to "Brother".
Look Puster, we'll find out why you got demoted, it's just a matter of
time, little swine.
Have a BLESSED Day,
Rev. BR Collins
Hey, maybe your "prayers" finally caught up with you. You know, Gal.
1:8.
I hope you get your just reward, Puster.
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| User: "Carl" |
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| Title: Re: Winter has changed his reference from "Pastor" to "Brother"! |
10 Jun 2007 01:28:09 PM |
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"Rev. BR Collins" <rev.brcollins@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1181451732.527508.21240@n4g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
I am getting to the bottom of the Winter's latest "cover-up"! This is
the latest one of his "hang-outs". http://www.thetruthofthebible.com/
I've got people checking around as to WHY Winter would go from
"Pastor" to "Brother".
Look Puster, we'll find out why you got demoted, it's just a matter of
time, little swine.
Have a BLESSED Day,
Rev. BR Collins
Hey, maybe your "prayers" finally caught up with you. You know, Gal.
1:8.
I hope you get your just reward, Puster.
So far there seems to be only three individuals posting; Steve Winter (now
calling himself "Brother") a "Brother Jasper Kingrey" who is referred to as
a JNAHC Minister (which is Steve Winter's cultic church) and "Brother Hood"
(no first name given) who is listed as being 22 years old and from Paris,
Texas.
This appears to be Steve Winter's latest desperate attempt at becoming a
cult leader a la Jim Jones. Perhaps the provider of the bandwidth for this
latest site needs to be informed with evidence of what sort of individual
they have allowed into their midst.
May God bless,
Carl
website -- http://www.nettally.com/saints/
blog -- http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/
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| User: "Rod" |
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| Title: Re: Winter has changed his reference from "Pastor" to "Brother"! |
10 Jun 2007 11:47:08 AM |
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"Rev. BR Collins" <rev.brcollins@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1181451732.527508.21240@n4g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
I am getting to the bottom of the Winter's latest "cover-up"! This is
the latest one of his "hang-outs". http://www.thetruthofthebible.com/
I've got people checking around as to WHY Winter would go from
"Pastor" to "Brother".
I have an answer for you.....
Please note: the owner of the domain name is specified in the
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Registrant:
SellCom
2307 Whitley Drive
Durham, North Carolina 27707-2221
United States
Registered through: Sellcom
Domain Name: THETRUTHOFTHEBIBLE.COM
Created on: 06-Jun-07
Expires on: 07-Jun-12
Last Updated on: 06-Jun-07
Administrative Contact:
Winter, Steve
SellCom
2307 Whitley Drive
Durham, North Carolina 27707-2221
United States
(919) 401-0067
Technical Contact:
Winter, Steve
SellCom
2307 Whitley Drive
Durham, North Carolina 27707-2221
United States
(919) 401-0067
Domain servers in listed order:
NS5.SECURESERVER.NET
NS6.SECURESERVER.NET
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IP Address: 64.202.189.170 (ARIN & RIPE IP search)
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Domain Name: THETRUTHOFTHEBIBLE.COM
Registrar: WILD WEST DOMAINS, INC.
Whois Server: whois.wildwestdomains.com
Referral URL: http://www.wildwestdomains.com
Name Server: NS5.SECURESERVER.NET
Name Server: NS6.SECURESERVER.NET
Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Status: clientRenewProhibited
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Updated Date: 06-jun-2007
Creation Date: 06-jun-2007
Expiration Date: 06-jun-2012
Look Puster, we'll find out why you got demoted, it's just a matter of
time, little swine.
I registered, he banned me. I can't even read what he posts now ! The
dissappointment
is killing me....
Have a BLESSED Day,
Rev. BR Collins
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Rod
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| User: "Carl" |
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| Title: Re: Winter has changed his reference from "Pastor" to "Brother"! |
10 Jun 2007 01:23:03 PM |
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"Rod" <kc0oeb@att.net> wrote in message
news:mWVai.7528$u56.4807@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net...
"Rev. BR Collins" <rev.brcollins@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1181451732.527508.21240@n4g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
I am getting to the bottom of the Winter's latest "cover-up"! This is
the latest one of his "hang-outs". http://www.thetruthofthebible.com/
I've got people checking around as to WHY Winter would go from
"Pastor" to "Brother".
I have an answer for you.....
Please note: the owner of the domain name is specified in the
"registrant" field.
In most cases, the Registrar is not the owner of domain names listed in
this database.
Registrant:
SellCom
2307 Whitley Drive
Durham, North Carolina 27707-2221
United States
Registered through: Sellcom
Domain Name: THETRUTHOFTHEBIBLE.COM
Created on: 06-Jun-07
Expires on: 07-Jun-12
Last Updated on: 06-Jun-07
Administrative Contact:
Winter, Steve
SellCom
2307 Whitley Drive
Durham, North Carolina 27707-2221
United States
(919) 401-0067
Technical Contact:
Winter, Steve
SellCom
2307 Whitley Drive
Durham, North Carolina 27707-2221
United States
(919) 401-0067
Domain servers in listed order:
NS5.SECURESERVER.NET
NS6.SECURESERVER.NET
The previous information has been obtained either directly
from the registrant or a registrar of the domain name other than Network
Solutions. Network Solutions, therefore, does not guarantee its accuracy
or completeness.
Show underlying registry data for this record
Current Registrar: WILD WEST DOMAINS, INC.
IP Address: 64.202.189.170 (ARIN & RIPE IP search)
IP Location: US(UNITED STATES)-ARIZONA-SCOTTSDALE
Lock Status: clientDeleteProhibited
DMOZ no listings
Y! Directory: see listings
Data as of: 14-Jun-2005
Domain Name: THETRUTHOFTHEBIBLE.COM
Registrar: WILD WEST DOMAINS, INC.
Whois Server: whois.wildwestdomains.com
Referral URL: http://www.wildwestdomains.com
Name Server: NS5.SECURESERVER.NET
Name Server: NS6.SECURESERVER.NET
Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Status: clientRenewProhibited
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Updated Date: 06-jun-2007
Creation Date: 06-jun-2007
Expiration Date: 06-jun-2012
Look Puster, we'll find out why you got demoted, it's just a matter of
time, little swine.
I registered, he banned me. I can't even read what he posts now ! The
dissappointment
is killing me....
Steve Winter has found a way to have total domination over a tiny discussion
site where he controls all that is allowed on it. I imagine he will attract
a few followers most of whom will be banned once they begin challenging his
heretical nature.
May God bless,
Carl
website -- http://www.nettally.com/saints/
blog -- http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/
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| User: "John Fraser" |
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| Title: Re: Winter has changed his reference from "Pastor" to "Brother"! |
10 Jun 2007 03:54:01 PM |
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Good afternoon Carl;
"Carl" <saints@nettally.com> wrote in message
news:f4hfi8$h1q$1@news.utelfla.com...
Steve Winter has found a way to have total domination over a tiny
discussion site where he controls all that is allowed on it. I imagine he
will attract a few followers most of whom will be banned once they begin
challenging his heretical nature.
May God bless,
Carl
website -- http://www.nettally.com/saints/
blog -- http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/
He received quite a bit of flak before his sudden and silent departure.
Mind you, he was not innocent either. I believe he just wants a place where
he can post in peace without being reminded of his indiscretions. I
registered, but I don't expect it to be approved. Time will tell if it's a
success.
Cheers,
John
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| User: "Rev. BR Collins" |
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| Title: Re: Winter has changed his reference from "Pastor" to "Brother"! |
10 Jun 2007 08:52:11 PM |
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On Jun 10, 2:54?pm, "John Fraser" <jfra...@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
Good afternoon Carl;
"Carl" <sai...@nettally.com> wrote in message
news:f4hfi8$h1q$1@news.utelfla.com...
Steve Winter has found a way to have total domination over a tiny
discussion site where he controls all that is allowed on it. I imagine he
will attract a few followers most of whom will be banned once they begin
challenging his heretical nature.
May God bless,
Carl
website --http://www.nettally.com/saints/
blog --http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/
He received quite a bit of flak before his sudden and silent departure.
Mind you, he was not innocent either. I believe he just wants a place where
he can post in peace without being reminded of his indiscretions. I
registered, but I don't expect it to be approved. Time will tell if it's a
success.
Cheers,
John
He wields a big stick in his own group. You're already banned from
participating in the group. Check back know, John.
If I were moderating this group and I prohibited Puster Winter from
joining, he'd try and sue me.(if he had any of his paw in law's money
left)
I think he went throug all that though.
There are whispers coming from Durham, and it doesn't bode well for
"Brother" Winter.
Have a BLESSED Day,
Rev. BR Collins
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| User: "John Fraser" |
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10 Jun 2007 10:51:19 PM |
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Good morning BR;
"Rev. BR Collins" <rev.brcollins@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1181526731.750747.171500@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 10, 2:54?pm, "John Fraser" <jfra...@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
Good afternoon Carl;
"Carl" <sai...@nettally.com> wrote in message
news:f4hfi8$h1q$1@news.utelfla.com...
Steve Winter has found a way to have total domination over a tiny
discussion site where he controls all that is allowed on it. I imagine
he
will attract a few followers most of whom will be banned once they
begin
challenging his heretical nature.
May God bless,
Carl
website --http://www.nettally.com/saints/
blog --http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/
He received quite a bit of flak before his sudden and silent
departure.
Mind you, he was not innocent either. I believe he just wants a place
where
he can post in peace without being reminded of his indiscretions. I
registered, but I don't expect it to be approved. Time will tell if it's
a
success.
Cheers,
John
He wields a big stick in his own group. You're already banned from
participating in the group. Check back know, John.
If I were moderating this group and I prohibited Puster Winter from
joining, he'd try and sue me.(if he had any of his paw in law's money
left)
I think he went throug all that though.
There are whispers coming from Durham, and it doesn't bode well for
"Brother" Winter.
Have a BLESSED Day,
Rev. BR Collins
I have full faith he won't be happy upon seeing my application.
Cheers,
John
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| User: "kc0oeb" |
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11 Jun 2007 08:18:06 AM |
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"John Fraser" <jfraser@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:466cc6e6$0$4339$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net...
Good morning BR;
"Rev. BR Collins" <rev.brcollins@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1181526731.750747.171500@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 10, 2:54?pm, "John Fraser" <jfra...@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
Good afternoon Carl;
"Carl" <sai...@nettally.com> wrote in message
news:f4hfi8$h1q$1@news.utelfla.com...
Steve Winter has found a way to have total domination over a tiny
discussion site where he controls all that is allowed on it. I imagine
he
will attract a few followers most of whom will be banned once they
begin
challenging his heretical nature.
May God bless,
Carl
website --http://www.nettally.com/saints/
blog --http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/
He received quite a bit of flak before his sudden and silent
departure.
Mind you, he was not innocent either. I believe he just wants a place
where
he can post in peace without being reminded of his indiscretions. I
registered, but I don't expect it to be approved. Time will tell if
it's a
success.
Cheers,
John
He wields a big stick in his own group. You're already banned from
participating in the group. Check back know, John.
If I were moderating this group and I prohibited Puster Winter from
joining, he'd try and sue me.(if he had any of his paw in law's money
left)
I think he went throug all that though.
There are whispers coming from Durham, and it doesn't bode well for
"Brother" Winter.
Have a BLESSED Day,
Rev. BR Collins
I have full faith he won't be happy upon seeing my application.
You will likely get the same answer that I did. I am banned from even
reading anything at the site. It's hilarious, typical Steve Winter.
Rod
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| User: "John Fraser" |
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11 Jun 2007 08:48:56 AM |
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Good morning Rod;
"kc0oeb" <kc0oeb@att.net> wrote in message
news:rYbbi.7685$u56.1137@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net...
I have full faith he won't be happy upon seeing my application.
You will likely get the same answer that I did. I am banned from even
reading anything at the site. It's hilarious, typical Steve Winter.
Rod
In a way, it's understandable as he was given quite a rough ride before
his departure. I'm sure he doesn't wish to repeat the experience although
he also set a poor example. I guess we're all guilty of that to some
extent.
Cheers,
John
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| User: "Rod" |
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11 Jun 2007 09:21:54 AM |
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"John Fraser" <jfraser@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:466d52ff$0$4323$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net...
Good morning Rod;
"kc0oeb" <kc0oeb@att.net> wrote in message
news:rYbbi.7685$u56.1137@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net...
I have full faith he won't be happy upon seeing my application.
You will likely get the same answer that I did. I am banned from even
reading anything at the site. It's hilarious, typical Steve Winter.
Rod
In a way, it's understandable as he was given quite a rough ride before
his departure. I'm sure he doesn't wish to repeat the experience although
he also set a poor example.
Yes, were are guilty of that to an extent as well. But the old saying is
still true today, you get out of it what you put into it.
I guess we're all guilty of that to some extent.
Yes. I honestly wish we could have had a normal rapor with the guy,
but he didn't want that...I'm not glad that he is gone from here though,
some how his absence diminishes usenet, but at the same time it is
becoming somewhat peacefull. It could have been that way from the start,
he knows right from wrong, as most of us do, and I honestly believe that
he enjoyed promoting dissention to some degree.
Rod
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| User: "Bible Bob" |
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11 Jun 2007 09:33:07 AM |
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On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 09:21:54 -0500, "Rod" <kc0oeb@att.net> wrote:
"John Fraser" <jfraser@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:466d52ff$0$4323$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net...
Good morning Rod;
"kc0oeb" <kc0oeb@att.net> wrote in message
news:rYbbi.7685$u56.1137@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net...
I have full faith he won't be happy upon seeing my application.
You will likely get the same answer that I did. I am banned from even
reading anything at the site. It's hilarious, typical Steve Winter.
Rod
In a way, it's understandable as he was given quite a rough ride before
his departure. I'm sure he doesn't wish to repeat the experience although
he also set a poor example.
Yes, were are guilty of that to an extent as well. But the old saying is
still true today, you get out of it what you put into it.
I guess we're all guilty of that to some extent.
Yes. I honestly wish we could have had a normal rapor with the guy,
but he didn't want that...I'm not glad that he is gone from here though,
some how his absence diminishes usenet, but at the same time it is
becoming somewhat peacefull. It could have been that way from the start,
he knows right from wrong, as most of us do, and I honestly believe that
he enjoyed promoting dissention to some degree.
Rod
Rod and John,
The Durham police are not happy with Steve's using them as pawns.
He is gone for now and posts about him will only motivate him to come
back. Maybe some time away from the groups will help him enjoy his
life. I think enough has been said in public.
Bob
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| User: "Rod" |
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11 Jun 2007 01:50:34 PM |
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"Bible Bob" <biblebob@saintly.com> wrote in message
news:v2nq631ev17da45ihc8tep5sb6un2o50tg@4ax.com...
On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 09:21:54 -0500, "Rod" <kc0oeb@att.net> wrote:
"John Fraser" <jfraser@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:466d52ff$0$4323$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net...
Good morning Rod;
"kc0oeb" <kc0oeb@att.net> wrote in message
news:rYbbi.7685$u56.1137@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net...
I have full faith he won't be happy upon seeing my application.
You will likely get the same answer that I did. I am banned from even
reading anything at the site. It's hilarious, typical Steve Winter.
Rod
In a way, it's understandable as he was given quite a rough ride
before
his departure. I'm sure he doesn't wish to repeat the experience
although
he also set a poor example.
Yes, were are guilty of that to an extent as well. But the old saying
is
still true today, you get out of it what you put into it.
I guess we're all guilty of that to some extent.
Yes. I honestly wish we could have had a normal rapor with the guy,
but he didn't want that...I'm not glad that he is gone from here
though,
some how his absence diminishes usenet, but at the same time it is
becoming somewhat peacefull. It could have been that way from the
start,
he knows right from wrong, as most of us do, and I honestly believe
that
he enjoyed promoting dissention to some degree.
Rod
Rod and John,
The Durham police are not happy with Steve's using them as pawns.
He is gone for now and posts about him will only motivate him to come
back. Maybe some time away from the groups will help him enjoy his
life. I think enough has been said in public.
I agree !
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| User: "John Fraser" |
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11 Jun 2007 06:52:15 PM |
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Good evening Bob;
"Bible Bob" <biblebob@saintly.com> wrote in message
news:v2nq631ev17da45ihc8tep5sb6un2o50tg@4ax.com...
On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 09:21:54 -0500, "Rod" <kc0oeb@att.net> wrote:
"John Fraser" <jfraser@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:466d52ff$0$4323$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net...
Good morning Rod;
"kc0oeb" <kc0oeb@att.net> wrote in message
news:rYbbi.7685$u56.1137@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net...
I have full faith he won't be happy upon seeing my application.
You will likely get the same answer that I did. I am banned from even
reading anything at the site. It's hilarious, typical Steve Winter.
Rod
In a way, it's understandable as he was given quite a rough ride
before
his departure. I'm sure he doesn't wish to repeat the experience
although
he also set a poor example.
Yes, were are guilty of that to an extent as well. But the old saying
is
still true today, you get out of it what you put into it.
I guess we're all guilty of that to some extent.
Yes. I honestly wish we could have had a normal rapor with the guy,
but he didn't want that...I'm not glad that he is gone from here
though,
some how his absence diminishes usenet, but at the same time it is
becoming somewhat peacefull. It could have been that way from the
start,
he knows right from wrong, as most of us do, and I honestly believe
that
he enjoyed promoting dissention to some degree.
Rod
Rod and John,
The Durham police are not happy with Steve's using them as pawns.
He is gone for now and posts about him will only motivate him to come
back. Maybe some time away from the groups will help him enjoy his
life. I think enough has been said in public.
Bob
Works for me.
Cheers,
John
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| User: "Rev. BR Collins" |
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| Title: Re: Winter has changed his reference from "Pastor" to "Brother"! |
11 Jun 2007 07:38:28 PM |
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On Jun 11, 5:52?pm, "John Fraser" <jfra...@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
Good evening Bob;
"Bible Bob" <bible...@saintly.com> wrote in message
news:v2nq631ev17da45ihc8tep5sb6un2o50tg@4ax.com...
On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 09:21:54 -0500, "Rod" <kc0...@att.net> wrote:
"John Fraser" <jfra...@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:466d52ff$0$4323$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net...
Good morning Rod;
"kc0oeb" <kc0...@att.net> wrote in message
news:rYbbi.7685$u56.1137@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net...
I have full faith he won't be happy upon seeing my application.
You will likely get the same answer that I did. I am banned from even
reading anything at the site. It's hilarious, typical Steve Winter.
Rod
In a way, it's understandable as he was given quite a rough ride
before
his departure. I'm sure he doesn't wish to repeat the experience
although
he also set a poor example.
Yes, were are guilty of that to an extent as well. But the old saying
is
still true today, you get out of it what you put into it.
I guess we're all guilty of that to some extent.
Yes. I honestly wish we could have had a normal rapor with the guy,
but he didn't want that...I'm not glad that he is gone from here
though,
some how his absence diminishes usenet, but at the same time it is
becoming somewhat peacefull. It could have been that way from the
start,
he knows right from wrong, as most of us do, and I honestly believe
that
he enjoyed promoting dissention to some degree.
Rod
Rod and John,
The Durham police are not happy with Steve's using them as pawns.
He is gone for now and posts about him will only motivate him to come
back. Maybe some time away from the groups will help him enjoy his
life. I think enough has been said in public.
Bob
Works for me.
Cheers,
John- Hide quoted text -
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WRONG! This guy is a scumbag of the lowest variety. He's totally
dishonest, and can't admit when he's wrong. If you listen to him, he's
NEVER been wrong. Not even when he published videos on pornographic
websites even after he was told they were pornographic.
He'll lie, cheat, and steal if he thinks his "kingdom" can be
advanced. Heck, he even downloaded kiddie porn so he could enter it as
"evidence" in an extortion case against concentric.
No, he deserves no "pass" on his past and present behavior. He's
absent for a reason, and that reason isn't good. Something has
happened or is happening with him.
Maybe all his cursing has come back to him like a boomarang.
Have a BLESSED Day,
Rev. BR Collins
PS. Puster, if you watching, you're a filthy low down scumbag.
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| User: "John Fraser" |
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12 Jun 2007 05:37:17 AM |
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Good morning BR;
"Rev. BR Collins" <rev.brcollins@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1181608708.107792.129170@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 11, 5:52?pm, "John Fraser" <jfra...@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
Good evening Bob;
"Bible Bob" <bible...@saintly.com> wrote in message
Rod and John,
The Durham police are not happy with Steve's using them as pawns.
He is gone for now and posts about him will only motivate him to come
back. Maybe some time away from the groups will help him enjoy his
life. I think enough has been said in public.
Bob
Works for me.
Cheers,
John- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
WRONG! This guy is a scumbag of the lowest variety. He's totally
dishonest, and can't admit when he's wrong. If you listen to him, he's
NEVER been wrong. Not even when he published videos on pornographic
websites even after he was told they were pornographic.
He'll lie, cheat, and steal if he thinks his "kingdom" can be
advanced. Heck, he even downloaded kiddie porn so he could enter it as
"evidence" in an extortion case against concentric.
No, he deserves no "pass" on his past and present behavior. He's
absent for a reason, and that reason isn't good. Something has
happened or is happening with him.
Maybe all his cursing has come back to him like a boomarang.
Have a BLESSED Day,
Rev. BR Collins
PS. Puster, if you watching, you're a filthy low down scumbag.
I don't doubt something cataclysmic occurred, but his negativity is
gone and isn't that what we sought? If we continue to drag his name through
the mud, are we truly free of what we sought relief from?
Cheers,
John
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On Jun 12, 6:37 am, "John Fraser" <jfra...@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
Good morning BR;
"Rev. BR Collins" <rev.brcoll...@yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:1181608708.107792.129170@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 11, 5:52?pm, "John Fraser" <jfra...@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
Good evening Bob;
"Bible Bob" <bible...@saintly.com> wrote in message
Rod and John,
The Durham police are not happy with Steve's using them as pawns.
He is gone for now and posts about him will only motivate him to come
back. Maybe some time away from the groups will help him enjoy his
life. I think enough has been said in public.
Bob
Works for me.
Cheers,
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WRONG! This guy is a scumbag of the lowest variety. He's totally
dishonest, and can't admit when he's wrong. If you listen to him, he's
NEVER been wrong. Not even when he published videos on pornographic
websites even after he was told they were pornographic.
He'll lie, cheat, and steal if he thinks his "kingdom" can be
advanced. Heck, he even downloaded kiddie porn so he could enter it as
"evidence" in an extortion case against concentric.
No, he deserves no "pass" on his past and present behavior. He's
absent for a reason, and that reason isn't good. Something has
happened or is happening with him.
Maybe all his cursing has come back to him like a boomarang.
Have a BLESSED Day,
Rev. BR Collins
PS. Puster, if you watching, you're a filthy low down scumbag.
I don't doubt something cataclysmic occurred, but his negativity is
gone and isn't that what we sought? If we continue to drag his name through
the mud, are we truly free of what we sought relief from?
Agreed. Point taken.
May God bless,
Carl
website -- http://www.nettally.com/saints/
blog -- http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/
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11 Jun 2007 08:51:35 PM |
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On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 17:38:28 -0700, "Rev. BR Collins"
<rev.brcollins@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Jun 11, 5:52?pm, "John Fraser" <jfra...@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
Good evening Bob;
"Bible Bob" <bible...@saintly.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 09:21:54 -0500, "Rod" <kc0...@att.net> wrote:
"John Fraser" <jfra...@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:466d52ff$0$4323$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net...
Good morning Rod;
"kc0oeb" <kc0...@att.net> wrote in message
news:rYbbi.7685$u56.1137@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net...
I have full faith he won't be happy upon seeing my application.
You will likely get the same answer that I did. I am banned from even
reading anything at the site. It's hilarious, typical Steve Winter.
Rod
In a way, it's understandable as he was given quite a rough ride
before
his departure. I'm sure he doesn't wish to repeat the experience
although
he also set a poor example.
Yes, were are guilty of that to an extent as well. But the old saying
is
still true today, you get out of it what you put into it.
I guess we're all guilty of that to some extent.
Yes. I honestly wish we could have had a normal rapor with the guy,
but he didn't want that...I'm not glad that he is gone from here
though,
some how his absence diminishes usenet, but at the same time it is
becoming somewhat peacefull. It could have been that way from the
start,
he knows right from wrong, as most of us do, and I honestly believe
that
he enjoyed promoting dissention to some degree.
Rod
Rod and John,
The Durham police are not happy with Steve's using them as pawns.
He is gone for now and posts about him will only motivate him to come
back. Maybe some time away from the groups will help him enjoy his
life. I think enough has been said in public.
Bob
Works for me.
Cheers,
John- Hide quoted text -
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WRONG! This guy is a scumbag of the lowest variety. He's totally
dishonest, and can't admit when he's wrong. If you listen to him, he's
NEVER been wrong. Not even when he published videos on pornographic
websites even after he was told they were pornographic.
He'll lie, cheat, and steal if he thinks his "kingdom" can be
advanced. Heck, he even downloaded kiddie porn so he could enter it as
"evidence" in an extortion case against concentric.
No, he deserves no "pass" on his past and present behavior. He's
absent for a reason, and that reason isn't good. Something has
happened or is happening with him.
Maybe all his cursing has come back to him like a boomarang.
Have a BLESSED Day,
Rev. BR Collins
PS. Puster, if you watching, you're a filthy low down scumbag.
Cub Brave,
"We" deserve a pass.
God can take of Steve.
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11 Jun 2007 03:15:04 AM |
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On Jun 10, 6:52?pm, "Rev. BR Collins" <rev.brcoll...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Jun 10, 2:54?pm, "John Fraser" <jfra...@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
snip
None of what I say will have any meaning what so ever, but I am glad
the Pastor / brother appears to be healthy, now if the situation was
reverse he would not wish the same. Even in death he has mocked those
who dont agree with him, how sad is that. It does not mean anything
what so ever in religious discourse whose only objective what so ever
is to win. But it still is sad on a human level, which also has no
meaning in religious discourse.
The man did a great deal of damage to people out here, one just needs
to google that to find that. But I dont wish the same on him, granted
that is not Christian, but it is human. If I was a good christian I
would wish nothing but God's wrath and eternal hatred on him so he
could come to learn the true love of God by burning in hell forever,
praise Jesus.
I dont get the religon, why was not the cross of christ enough, it was
not, never will be, but why is it not enough ?
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11 Jun 2007 06:09:36 AM |
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Good morning;
<please_dont_sue_me@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1181549704.417991.99880@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 10, 6:52?pm, "Rev. BR Collins" <rev.brcoll...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Jun 10, 2:54?pm, "John Fraser" <jfra...@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
snip
None of what I say will have any meaning what so ever, but I am glad
the Pastor / brother appears to be healthy, now if the situation was
reverse he would not wish the same. Even in death he has mocked those
who dont agree with him, how sad is that. It does not mean anything
what so ever in religious discourse whose only objective what so ever
is to win. But it still is sad on a human level, which also has no
meaning in religious discourse.
The man did a great deal of damage to people out here, one just needs
to google that to find that. But I dont wish the same on him, granted
that is not Christian, but it is human. If I was a good christian I
would wish nothing but God's wrath and eternal hatred on him so he
could come to learn the true love of God by burning in hell forever,
praise Jesus.
Mr. Winter has a contrary spirit which manifests itself when he doesn't
get his way. I realize that one must take a stand to defend one's
principles, but does one need to be less than civil? It is not Christian to
wish harm upon someone; even witches are not allowed that. It is Christian
wisdom to know that a person may have God's wrath upon someone. One cannot
be successful in rescuing the perishing if one also goes about ensuring
their doom. In his mind, Gal 1:8 is his Trump card, stand off weapon, etc.
It makes the hurt go away.
I dont get the religon, why was not the cross of christ enough, it was
not, never will be, but why is it not enough?
Biblically, it's a Jew/Gentile issue. In the mind of some, the Gentiles
being saved through grace was not good enough; they also had to comply with
certain Mosaic traditions. Mr. Winter seems bent on water baptism. I'm not
sure if this is something he can be participate in, or he feels it isn't
emphasized enough. Whatever the reason, any discussion regarding repentance
is less emphasized. It is true he can be adamant about obedience, but it's
also true he can be selective about it, too.
Time will tell if this latest endeavour will give him what he wants.
His opening discussion is about monotheism. I'm interested in reminding him
of past indiscretions.
Cheers,
John
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11 Jun 2007 06:37:16 AM |
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Sigh. Correct the last sentence to read "I am not interested in
reminding him of past indiscretions."
Mucho embarrassed,
John
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12 Jun 2007 11:33:45 AM |
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Rod wrote:
Registrant:
SellCom
2307 Whitley Drive
Durham, North Carolina 27707-2221
United States
Registered through: Sellcom
Domain Name: THETRUTHOFTHEBIBLE.COM
Created on: 06-Jun-07
Expires on: 07-Jun-12
Last Updated on: 06-Jun-07
Administrative Contact:
Winter, Steve
SellCom
2307 Whitley Drive
Durham, North Carolina 27707-2221
United States
(919) 401-0067
Technical Contact:
Winter, Steve
SellCom
2307 Whitley Drive
Durham, North Carolina 27707-2221
United States
(919) 401-0067
Domain servers in listed order:
NS5.SECURESERVER.NET
NS6.SECURESERVER.NET
It's again interesting to see how interwoven Steve Winter's business
affairs are with his religious endeavors.
If he's as much a scofflaw with his business affairs as he was in
possessing child pornography, there's probably some interesting
bookkeeping going on.
Is Sellcom a 501C corporation?
Quartus, a brother
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12 Jun 2007 12:55:25 PM |
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"Quartus, a brother" <quartus_a_brother_no_spam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:tNudnQfqWu96V_PbnZ2dnUVZ_jCdnZ2d@giganews.com...
Rod wrote:
Registrant:
SellCom
2307 Whitley Drive
Durham, North Carolina 27707-2221
United States
Registered through: Sellcom
Domain Name: THETRUTHOFTHEBIBLE.COM
Created on: 06-Jun-07
Expires on: 07-Jun-12
Last Updated on: 06-Jun-07
Administrative Contact:
Winter, Steve
SellCom
2307 Whitley Drive
Durham, North Carolina 27707-2221
United States
(919) 401-0067
Technical Contact:
Winter, Steve
SellCom
2307 Whitley Drive
Durham, North Carolina 27707-2221
United States
(919) 401-0067
Domain servers in listed order:
NS5.SECURESERVER.NET
NS6.SECURESERVER.NET
It's again interesting to see how interwoven Steve Winter's business
affairs are with his religious endeavors.
If he's as much a scofflaw with his business affairs as he was in
possessing child pornography, there's probably some interesting
bookkeeping going on.
Is Sellcom a 501C corporation?
yes. he has a business license and the chamber of commerce in Durham is
aware
of him.
Rod
Quartus, a brother
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13 Jun 2007 07:29:08 AM |
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On Jun 12, 1:55 pm, "Rod" <kc0...@att.net> wrote:
"Quartus, a brother" <quartus_a_brother_no_s...@yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:tNudnQfqWu96V_PbnZ2dnUVZ_jCdnZ2d@giganews.com...
Rod wrote:
Registrant:
SellCom
2307 Whitley Drive
Durham, North Carolina 27707-2221
United States
Registered through: Sellcom
Domain Name: THETRUTHOFTHEBIBLE.COM
Created on: 06-Jun-07
Expires on: 07-Jun-12
Last Updated on: 06-Jun-07
Administrative Contact:
Winter, Steve
SellCom
2307 Whitley Drive
Durham, North Carolina 27707-2221
United States
(919) 401-0067
Technical Contact:
Winter, Steve
SellCom
2307 Whitley Drive
Durham, North Carolina 27707-2221
United States
(919) 401-0067
Domain servers in listed order:
NS5.SECURESERVER.NET
NS6.SECURESERVER.NET
It's again interesting to see how interwoven Steve Winter's business
affairs are with his religious endeavors.
If he's as much a scofflaw with his business affairs as he was in
possessing child pornography, there's probably some interesting
bookkeeping going on.
Is Sellcom a 501C corporation?
yes. he has a business license and the chamber of commerce in Durham is
aware
of him.
I wonder if the IRS is aware of him as well.
May God bless,
Carl
website -- http://www.nettally.com/saints/
blog -- http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/
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13 Jun 2007 07:53:24 AM |
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wrote:
I wonder if the IRS is aware of him as well.
It was Stephen Adams intent, if the lawsuit against him had progressed,
to depose Steve Winter under oath about the mingling of his business and
religious activities. Stephen told Steve that was his plan. That would
have been interesting!
The reason Stephen could have done this is that Steve Winter had claimed
that Sellcomm had been financially injured as a result of things said
about him. Ha!
Quartus, a brother
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13 Jun 2007 07:08:50 PM |
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"Quartus, a brother" <quartus_a_brother_no_spam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:aP2dndNnqJpcdfLbnZ2dnUVZ_rSjnZ2d@giganews.com...
saints@nettally.com wrote:
I wonder if the IRS is aware of him as well.
It was Stephen Adams intent, if the lawsuit against him had progressed, to
depose Steve Winter under oath about the mingling of his business and
religious activities. Stephen told Steve that was his plan. That would
have been interesting!
The reason Stephen could have done this is that Steve Winter had claimed
that Sellcomm had been financially injured as a result of things said
about him. Ha!
From my view point it appears the opposite. Steve Winter called Adams
employer
and tried to get him fired. That is factual and cause to seek damages, and
perhaps
he should have, but to Steve Adams credit he did not. That is admirable
and says
a lot for the mans character.
Rod
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13 Jun 2007 09:37:37 AM |
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Good morning Quartus;
"Quartus, a brother" <quartus_a_brother_no_spam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:aP2dndNnqJpcdfLbnZ2dnUVZ_rSjnZ2d@giganews.com...
saints@nettally.com wrote:
I wonder if the IRS is aware of him as well.
It was Stephen Adams intent, if the lawsuit against him had progressed, to
depose Steve Winter under oath about the mingling of his business and
religious activities. Stephen told Steve that was his plan. That would
have been interesting!
The reason Stephen could have done this is that Steve Winter had claimed
that Sellcomm had been financially injured as a result of things said
about him. Ha!
Quartus, a brother
If I recall, the Plaintiff declared that his business income suffered as
a result of his religious discussions. Judge Tilley ruled that he could not
find any evidence to support the allegation because the Plaintiff did not
provide any.
Cheers,
John
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13 Jun 2007 08:03:57 AM |
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On Jun 13, 8:53 am, "Quartus, a brother"
<quartus_a_brother_no_s...@yahoo.com> wrote:
It was Stephen Adams intent, if the lawsuit against him had progressed,
to depose Steve Winter under oath about the mingling of his business and
religious activities. Stephen told Steve that was his plan. That would
have been interesting!
The reason Stephen could have done this is that Steve Winter had claimed
that Sellcomm had been financially injured as a result of things said
about him. Ha!
Being one of the defendants in the lawsuit, I was aware of Mr. Adams'
plan and frankly was eagerly anticipating such testimony. The
disclosure phase would have been most interesting.
May God bless,
Carl
website -- http://www.nettally.com/saints/
blog -- http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/
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13 Jun 2007 08:14:55 AM |
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wrote:
Being one of the defendants in the lawsuit, I was aware of Mr. Adams'
plan and frankly was eagerly anticipating such testimony.
Ah yes! I had quite forgotten that. :-)
Quartus, a brother
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10 Jun 2007 10:40:12 AM |
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Good morning BR;
"Rev. BR Collins" <rev.brcollins@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1181451732.527508.21240@n4g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
I am getting to the bottom of the Winter's latest "cover-up"! This is
the latest one of his "hang-outs". http://www.thetruthofthebible.com/
I've got people checking around as to WHY Winter would go from
"Pastor" to "Brother".
Look Puster, we'll find out why you got demoted, it's just a matter of
time, little swine.
Have a BLESSED Day,
Rev. BR Collins
Hey, maybe your "prayers" finally caught up with you. You know, Gal.
1:8.
I hope you get your just reward, Puster.
I don't know if he could or could not pay the bills, but Impsmail is for
sale. I have a feeling it was taken down because of politics, not funding.
Should you choose to go ahead with your purchase, please do it justice by
making it into a site worthy of respect. Removing his name altogether would
be a good start.
Well, at least we know he's still preaching. I noticed he lists himself
as the Administrator of the site.
Cheers,
John
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