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Sociology > Depression |
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"ALWAN" |
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07 Apr 2007 11:07:42 AM |
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" Jesus, Son of Mary |
109. [Be warned of] the Day when All=C4=81h will assemble the messengers
and say, "What was the response you received?" They will say, =C3=A2=E2=82=
=AC=C5=93We
have no knowledge. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen"
110. [The Day] when All=C4=81h will say, "O Jesus, Son of Mary, remember My
favor upon you and upon your mother when I supported you with the Pure
Spirit and you spoke to the people in the cradle and in maturity; and
[remember] when I taught you writing and wisdom and the Torah and the
Gospel; and when you designed from clay [what was] like the form of a
bird with My permission, then you breathed into it, and it became a
bird with My permission; and you healed the blind and the leper with
My permission; and when you brought forth the dead with My permission;
and when I restrained the Children of Israel from [killing] you when
you came to them with clear proofs and those who disbelieved among
them said, "This is not but obvious magic."
111. And [remember] when I inspired to the disciples, "Believe in Me
and in My messenger Jesus." They said, "We have believed, so bear
witness that indeed we are Muslims [in submission to All=C4=81h]."
112. [And remember] when the disciples said, "O Jesus, Son of Mary,
can your Lord send down to us a table [spread with food] from the
heaven? [Jesus] said," Fear All=C4=81h, if you should be believers."
113. They said, "We wish to eat from it and let our hearts be
reassured and know that you have been truthful to us and be among its
witnesses."
114. Said Jesus, the son of Mary, "O All=C4=81h, our Lord, send down to us
a table [spread with food] from the heaven to be for us a festival for
the first of us and the last of us and a sign from You. And provide
for us, and You are the best of providers."
115. All=C4=81h said, "Indeed, I will sent it down to you, but whoever
disbelieves afterwards from among you =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=80=9C then indeed =
will I punish
him with a punishment by which I have not punished anyone among the
worlds."
116. And [beware the Day] when All=C4=81h will say, "O Jesus, Son of Mary,
did you say to the people, 'Take me and my mother as deities besides
All=C4=81h?'" He will say, "Exalted are You! It was not for me to say that
to which I have no right. If I had said it, You would have known it.
You know what is within myself, and I do not know what is within
Yourself. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen.
117. I said not to them except what You commanded me =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=80=
=9C to worship
All=C4=81h, my Lord and your Lord. And I was a witness over them as long as
I was among them; but when You took me up, You were the Observer over
them, and You are, over all things, Witness.
118. If You should punish them =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=80=9C indeed they are You=
r servants; but
if You forgive them =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=80=9C indeed it is You who is the Ex=
alted in Might,
the Wise.
119. All=C4=81h will say, "This is the Day when the truthful will benefit
from their truthfulness." For them are gardens [in Paradise] beneath
which rivers flow, wherein they will abide forever, All=C4=81h being
pleased with them, and they with Him. That is the great attainment.
120. To All=C4=81h belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and
whatever is within them. And He is over all things competent
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| User: "Noon Cat Nick" |
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| Title: Re: " Jesus, Son of Mary |
07 Apr 2007 11:50:07 AM |
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ALWAN wrote:
120. To Allāh belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and
whatever is within them. And He is over all things competent
Deck the halls with boughs of holly, Allah-la-la-la, la la la la.
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| User: "Janithor" |
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| Title: Re: " Jesus, Son of Mary |
07 Apr 2007 07:16:49 PM |
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x-no-archive: yes
ALWAN wrote:
109. [Be warned of] the Day when All=C4=81h will assemble the messenger=
s
and say, "What was the response you received?" They will say, =C3=A2=E2=
=82=AC=C5=93We
have no knowledge. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen"
=20
=20
=20
110. [The Day] when All=C4=81h will say, "O Jesus, Son of Mary, remembe=
r My
favor upon you and upon your mother when I supported you with the Pure
Spirit and you spoke to the people in the cradle and in maturity; and
[remember] when I taught you writing and wisdom and the Torah and the
Gospel; and when you designed from clay [what was] like the form of a
bird with My permission, then you breathed into it, and it became a
bird with My permission; and you healed the blind and the leper with
My permission; and when you brought forth the dead with My permission;
and when I restrained the Children of Israel from [killing] you when
you came to them with clear proofs and those who disbelieved among
them said, "This is not but obvious magic."
=20
=20
=20
111. And [remember] when I inspired to the disciples, "Believe in Me
and in My messenger Jesus." They said, "We have believed, so bear
witness that indeed we are Muslims [in submission to All=C4=81h]."
=20
=20
=20
112. [And remember] when the disciples said, "O Jesus, Son of Mary,
can your Lord send down to us a table [spread with food] from the
heaven? [Jesus] said," Fear All=C4=81h, if you should be believers."
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=20
=20
113. They said, "We wish to eat from it and let our hearts be
reassured and know that you have been truthful to us and be among its
witnesses."
=20
=20
=20
114. Said Jesus, the son of Mary, "O All=C4=81h, our Lord, send down to=
us
a table [spread with food] from the heaven to be for us a festival for
the first of us and the last of us and a sign from You. And provide
for us, and You are the best of providers."
=20
=20
=20
115. All=C4=81h said, "Indeed, I will sent it down to you, but whoever
disbelieves afterwards from among you =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=80=9C then ind=
eed will I punish
him with a punishment by which I have not punished anyone among the
worlds."
=20
=20
=20
116. And [beware the Day] when All=C4=81h will say, "O Jesus, Son of Ma=
ry,
did you say to the people, 'Take me and my mother as deities besides
All=C4=81h?'" He will say, "Exalted are You! It was not for me to say t=
hat
to which I have no right. If I had said it, You would have known it.
You know what is within myself, and I do not know what is within
Yourself. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen.
=20
=20
=20
117. I said not to them except what You commanded me =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=
=80=9C to worship
All=C4=81h, my Lord and your Lord. And I was a witness over them as lon=
g as
I was among them; but when You took me up, You were the Observer over
them, and You are, over all things, Witness.
=20
=20
=20
118. If You should punish them =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=80=9C indeed they are=
Your servants; but
if You forgive them =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=80=9C indeed it is You who is th=
e Exalted in Might,
the Wise.
=20
=20
=20
119. All=C4=81h will say, "This is the Day when the truthful will benef=
it
from their truthfulness." For them are gardens [in Paradise] beneath
which rivers flow, wherein they will abide forever, All=C4=81h being
pleased with them, and they with Him. That is the great attainment.
=20
=20
=20
120. To All=C4=81h belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth an=
d
whatever is within them. And He is over all things competent
OK, you convinced me. What's my next step? And should I be Sunni or Shi=
a?
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| User: "cal" |
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| Title: Re: " Jesus, Son of Mary |
08 Apr 2007 10:15:50 AM |
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"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:46183471.8040200@comcast.net...
x-no-archive: yes
ALWAN wrote:
119. Allah will say, "This is the Day when the truthful will benefit
from their truthfulness." For them are gardens [in Paradise] beneath
which rivers flow, wherein they will abide forever, Allah being
pleased with them, and they with Him. That is the great attainment.
120. To Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and
whatever is within them. And He is over all things competent
OK, you convinced me. What's my next step? And should I be Sunni or Shia?
if you convert to judaism, you could be thora of the torah.
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| User: "Alan Harding" |
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| Title: Re: " Jesus, Son of Mary |
08 Apr 2007 03:41:43 AM |
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In message <46183471.8040200@comcast.net>, Janithor
<Janithor@comcast.net> writes
ALWAN wrote:
109. [Be warned of] the Day when All?h will assemble the messengers
and say, "What was the response you received?" They will say, “We
have no knowledge. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen"
110. [The Day] when All?h will say, "O Jesus, Son of Mary,
remember My
favor upon you and upon your mother when I supported you with the Pure
Spirit and you spoke to the people in the cradle and in maturity; and
[remember] when I taught you writing and wisdom and the Torah and the
Gospel; and when you designed from clay [what was] like the form of a
bird with My permission, then you breathed into it, and it became a
bird with My permission; and you healed the blind and the leper with
My permission; and when you brought forth the dead with My permission;
and when I restrained the Children of Israel from [killing] you when
you came to them with clear proofs and those who disbelieved among
them said, "This is not but obvious magic."
111. And [remember] when I inspired to the disciples, "Believe in
Me
and in My messenger Jesus." They said, "We have believed, so bear
witness that indeed we are Muslims [in submission to All?h]."
112. [And remember] when the disciples said, "O Jesus, Son of
Mary,
can your Lord send down to us a table [spread with food] from the
heaven? [Jesus] said," Fear All?h, if you should be believers."
113. They said, "We wish to eat from it and let our hearts be
reassured and know that you have been truthful to us and be among its
witnesses."
114. Said Jesus, the son of Mary, "O All?h, our Lord, send down to
us
a table [spread with food] from the heaven to be for us a festival for
the first of us and the last of us and a sign from You. And provide
for us, and You are the best of providers."
115. All?h said, "Indeed, I will sent it down to you, but whoever
disbelieves afterwards from among you – then indeed will I punish
him with a punishment by which I have not punished anyone among the
worlds."
116. And [beware the Day] when All?h will say, "O Jesus, Son of
Mary,
did you say to the people, 'Take me and my mother as deities besides
All?h?'" He will say, "Exalted are You! It was not for me to say that
to which I have no right. If I had said it, You would have known it.
You know what is within myself, and I do not know what is within
Yourself. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen.
117. I said not to them except what You commanded me – to
worship
All?h, my Lord and your Lord. And I was a witness over them as long as
I was among them; but when You took me up, You were the Observer over
them, and You are, over all things, Witness.
118. If You should punish them – indeed they are Your
servants; but
if You forgive them – indeed it is You who is the Exalted in Might,
the Wise.
119. All?h will say, "This is the Day when the truthful will
benefit
from their truthfulness." For them are gardens [in Paradise] beneath
which rivers flow, wherein they will abide forever, All?h being
pleased with them, and they with Him. That is the great attainment.
120. To All?h belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth
and
whatever is within them. And He is over all things competent
OK, you convinced me. What's my next step? And should I be Sunni or Shia?
Sufi.
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
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| User: "ALWAN" |
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| Title: Re: " Jesus, Son of Mary |
08 Apr 2007 05:24:51 AM |
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Janithor =D8=A3=D8=B1=D8=B3=D9=84=D8=AA:
x-no-archive: yes
ALWAN wrote:
109. [Be warned of] the Day when All=C4=81h will assemble the messengers
and say, "What was the response you received?" They will say, =C3=A2=E2=
=82=AC=C5=93We
have no knowledge. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen"
110. [The Day] when All=C4=81h will say, "O Jesus, Son of Mary, remembe=
r My
favor upon you and upon your mother when I supported you with the Pure
Spirit and you spoke to the people in the cradle and in maturity; and
[remember] when I taught you writing and wisdom and the Torah and the
Gospel; and when you designed from clay [what was] like the form of a
bird with My permission, then you breathed into it, and it became a
bird with My permission; and you healed the blind and the leper with
My permission; and when you brought forth the dead with My permission;
and when I restrained the Children of Israel from [killing] you when
you came to them with clear proofs and those who disbelieved among
them said, "This is not but obvious magic."
111. And [remember] when I inspired to the disciples, "Believe in Me
and in My messenger Jesus." They said, "We have believed, so bear
witness that indeed we are Muslims [in submission to All=C4=81h]."
112. [And remember] when the disciples said, "O Jesus, Son of Mary,
can your Lord send down to us a table [spread with food] from the
heaven? [Jesus] said," Fear All=C4=81h, if you should be believers."
113. They said, "We wish to eat from it and let our hearts be
reassured and know that you have been truthful to us and be among its
witnesses."
114. Said Jesus, the son of Mary, "O All=C4=81h, our Lord, send down to=
us
a table [spread with food] from the heaven to be for us a festival for
the first of us and the last of us and a sign from You. And provide
for us, and You are the best of providers."
115. All=C4=81h said, "Indeed, I will sent it down to you, but whoever
disbelieves afterwards from among you =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=80=9C then ind=
eed will I punish
him with a punishment by which I have not punished anyone among the
worlds."
116. And [beware the Day] when All=C4=81h will say, "O Jesus, Son of Ma=
ry,
did you say to the people, 'Take me and my mother as deities besides
All=C4=81h?'" He will say, "Exalted are You! It was not for me to say t=
hat
to which I have no right. If I had said it, You would have known it.
You know what is within myself, and I do not know what is within
Yourself. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen.
117. I said not to them except what You commanded me =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=
=80=9C to worship
All=C4=81h, my Lord and your Lord. And I was a witness over them as lon=
g as
I was among them; but when You took me up, You were the Observer over
them, and You are, over all things, Witness.
118. If You should punish them =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=80=9C indeed they are=
Your servants; but
if You forgive them =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=80=9C indeed it is You who is th=
e Exalted in Might,
the Wise.
119. All=C4=81h will say, "This is the Day when the truthful will benef=
it
from their truthfulness." For them are gardens [in Paradise] beneath
which rivers flow, wherein they will abide forever, All=C4=81h being
pleased with them, and they with Him. That is the great attainment.
120. To All=C4=81h belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and
whatever is within them. And He is over all things competent
OK, you convinced me. What's my next step? And should I be Sunni or Shi=
a?
ok
http://sultan.org/
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| User: "Janithor" |
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| Title: Re: " Jesus, Son of Mary |
08 Apr 2007 05:58:18 AM |
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x-no-archive: yes
ALWAN wrote:
Janithor =D8=A3=D8=B1=D8=B3=D9=84=D8=AA:
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x-no-archive: yes
ALWAN wrote:
109. [Be warned of] the Day when All=C4=81h will assemble the messenge=
rs
and say, "What was the response you received?" They will say, =C3=A2=E2=
=82=AC=C5=93We
have no knowledge. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen"
110. [The Day] when All=C4=81h will say, "O Jesus, Son of Mary, rememb=
er My
favor upon you and upon your mother when I supported you with the Pure=
Spirit and you spoke to the people in the cradle and in maturity; and
[remember] when I taught you writing and wisdom and the Torah and the
Gospel; and when you designed from clay [what was] like the form of a
bird with My permission, then you breathed into it, and it became a
bird with My permission; and you healed the blind and the leper with
My permission; and when you brought forth the dead with My permission;=
and when I restrained the Children of Israel from [killing] you when
you came to them with clear proofs and those who disbelieved among
them said, "This is not but obvious magic."
111. And [remember] when I inspired to the disciples, "Believe in Me
and in My messenger Jesus." They said, "We have believed, so bear
witness that indeed we are Muslims [in submission to All=C4=81h]."
112. [And remember] when the disciples said, "O Jesus, Son of Mary,
can your Lord send down to us a table [spread with food] from the
heaven? [Jesus] said," Fear All=C4=81h, if you should be believers."
113. They said, "We wish to eat from it and let our hearts be
reassured and know that you have been truthful to us and be among its
witnesses."
114. Said Jesus, the son of Mary, "O All=C4=81h, our Lord, send down t=
o us
a table [spread with food] from the heaven to be for us a festival for=
the first of us and the last of us and a sign from You. And provide
for us, and You are the best of providers."
115. All=C4=81h said, "Indeed, I will sent it down to you, but whoever=
disbelieves afterwards from among you =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=80=9C then in=
deed will I punish
him with a punishment by which I have not punished anyone among the
worlds."
116. And [beware the Day] when All=C4=81h will say, "O Jesus, Son of M=
ary,
did you say to the people, 'Take me and my mother as deities besides
All=C4=81h?'" He will say, "Exalted are You! It was not for me to say =
that
to which I have no right. If I had said it, You would have known it.
You know what is within myself, and I do not know what is within
Yourself. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen.
117. I said not to them except what You commanded me =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=
=80=9C to worship
All=C4=81h, my Lord and your Lord. And I was a witness over them as lo=
ng as
I was among them; but when You took me up, You were the Observer over
them, and You are, over all things, Witness.
118. If You should punish them =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=80=9C indeed they ar=
e Your servants; but
if You forgive them =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=80=9C indeed it is You who is t=
he Exalted in Might,
the Wise.
119. All=C4=81h will say, "This is the Day when the truthful will bene=
fit
from their truthfulness." For them are gardens [in Paradise] beneath
which rivers flow, wherein they will abide forever, All=C4=81h being
pleased with them, and they with Him. That is the great attainment.
120. To All=C4=81h belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth a=
nd
whatever is within them. And He is over all things competent
OK, you convinced me. What's my next step? And should I be Sunni or S=
hia?
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ok
http://sultan.org/
You responded! So, like, you're an actual human being? Who are you,=20
and what's your story? I'll be honest with you, I'm a committed=20
agnostic, I was just trying to see if you're a bot or a real human.=20
What little interest I have in in Islam or religion in general is more=20
academic than personal.
Like I said to you earlier though, just my opinion, you'll have a lot=20
more success bringing people to Islam if you deal with them personally,=20
rather than by posting anon links and spammy messages. It's like when I =
go sell for my cleaning services, I go door-to-door. If I just dropped=20
off flyers in the middle of the night, people will throw them away in=20
the morning. If I step into their building when they are there, and=20
talk to them personally, the response rate is much higher. Granted,=20
it's a lot more work, but for now I find it the most effective way to=20
get people over to my cause, i.e. hiring me to clean their buildings.=20
Good luck with it though.
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