I hope some of you respond (Jean?????) because I am going loony. So
you might remember that before my surgery I got it into my head that
Maria's world, nay, her universe would implode unless before surgery we
got a couch. We didn't have one having moved so much. But I had to get
it online - spend too much (on credit) and get a burnt umber couch.
Now I am poooooor on graduate fellowship and I have it my head lately
that the world - mine or Maria's will not be okay unless we have our
chair fixed (which I did), get a table for it, a leather foot rest and
a lamp. Not any lamp mind you. This lamp (look)
http://www.neimanmarcus.com/store/catalog/prod.jhtml?cmCat=search&itemId=prod27560129
Why????? I don't have a clue. I am worried about leaving Maria anything
when I die. I get weaker, my health gets worse, I have a harder time
keeping up with work and so I focus in on this damn lamp. I am nuts.
Once when I was a bar waitress and very broke I borrowed 500. from my
tax man to buy two tickets to opening night at the San Francisco opera
with Pavoritti (spelling?) and my mama, now dead, made me a red satin
ball gown with black twisted lact, long gloves (it was strapless and a
full ball skirt) and a beautful black satin cape which I still have. I
went with my then fellow . . . a petty mafia Latin type who I loved
fiercly for ten years and whose children (10) I raised. I don't regret
that night for it was something - surreal and fantastic though thank
god I left Jake eventually.
Will I regret getting this lamp to leave Maria??? Will she "get it"
when all I have to leave her are these few things I purchase to make up
for her lost legacy of her grandmama and her mother's STUPID
bankrupting of the family by showering John?? Will she know all her
life that she was loved and cherished and fretted over and that she is
special in a real way (she is quirky as they come) . . . Why am I
focused on a lamp from needless markup? I think because another
operation is coming . . . .
Anyway - does anyone like the lamp??
Rosena
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"Rosena" <filpriros@aol.com> wrote
Anyway - does anyone like the lamp??
Oh dear.
Well, you know these things are always a matter of personal taste, but it's
awfully...ornate. It's not the kind of lamp that would go with a lot of
different decorating styles; it's not made along clean classic lines. It's
done in the style of heavily carved Victorian furniture. That's a
specialized taste that not a lot of people these days want to live with,
since it's heavy and dark, and requires more maintenance and cleaning
because of the carving.
If it's the lamp that you really want for yourself, then get it on that
basis, but I wouldn't look at it as being an heirloom that Maria would
particularly appreciate or get a lot of good out of. Lamps don't make the
best heirlooms. They don't stand up to time or wear as well as other types
of furnishings. You'd be better off getting something else if you want it
to be a treasure for Maria. If you want nice things to pass on, a lamp is
probably something you could save money on, and invest the savings in
something more lasting, Even a nice antique box of some sort that would go
on the side table with the lamp would probably retain more value and look
better over time than that lamp will -- and you won't have to replace the
shade. :-)
Does Maria really want that lamp? Is it something she will treasure through
the years?
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22 Feb 2006 10:19:08 PM |
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"bunny" <bunnynospam@nospam.blarg.net> wrote in message
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"Rosena" <filpriros@aol.com> wrote
Anyway - does anyone like the lamp??
Oh dear.
Well, you know these things are always a matter of personal taste, but
it's awfully...ornate. It's not the kind of lamp that would go with a
lot of different decorating styles; it's not made along clean classic
lines. It's done in the style of heavily carved Victorian furniture.
That's a specialized taste that not a lot of people these days want to
live with, since it's heavy and dark, and requires more maintenance
and cleaning because of the carving.
If it's the lamp that you really want for yourself, then get it on
that basis, but I wouldn't look at it as being an heirloom that Maria
would particularly appreciate or get a lot of good out of. Lamps
don't make the best heirlooms. They don't stand up to time or wear as
well as other types of furnishings. You'd be better off getting
something else if you want it to be a treasure for Maria. If you want
nice things to pass on, a lamp is probably something you could save
money on, and invest the savings in something more lasting, Even a
nice antique box of some sort that would go on the side table with the
lamp would probably retain more value and look better over time than
that lamp will -- and you won't have to replace the shade. :-)
That was the most polite "no" I've ever seen.
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22 Feb 2006 06:37:57 PM |
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Hi Bunny,
I laughed in a good way when I read your reply - It is ornate, isn't
it?! I have very ornate old fashion taste. Naw, truth is Maria would
much rather have a nice antique box - actually she loves old boxes. And
they are much less expensive than this lamp!
It is very strange - I feel lately a lot like I did when I was with
child, and I want to feather and nest. I wonder if it is about getting
older and the same instincts kick in when you start to face mortality?
I want the towels fresh, and flowers on the table, and only nice china
used - like a story-book nest.
But I know I am mad for I also wish we were living in the middle of a
musical where jugglers appeared and we all burst into song and did cart
wheels.
Thanks for input Bunny - A box it may be. Founn an old brass trinket
on little feet that Maria loves and MUCH more reasonable! Thing is, I
have to pay attention to work and I am day dreaming instead.
Hope you are well!!
Best
Rosena
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22 Feb 2006 07:06:48 PM |
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Rosena wrote:
Hi Bunny,
I laughed in a good way when I read your reply - It is ornate, isn't
it?! I have very ornate old fashion taste. Naw, truth is Maria would
much rather have a nice antique box - actually she loves old boxes. And
they are much less expensive than this lamp!
It is very strange - I feel lately a lot like I did when I was with
child, and I want to feather and nest. I wonder if it is about getting
older and the same instincts kick in when you start to face mortality?
I want the towels fresh, and flowers on the table, and only nice china
used - like a story-book nest.
But I know I am mad for I also wish we were living in the middle of a
musical where jugglers appeared and we all burst into song and did cart
wheels.
Thanks for input Bunny - A box it may be. Founn an old brass trinket
on little feet that Maria loves and MUCH more reasonable! Thing is, I
have to pay attention to work and I am day dreaming instead.
Hope you are well!!
Best
Rosena
How about if I give you my grandfathers deer head, you can wire it, and
stick a lightbulb in its mouth. Hows that for an heirloom? I think that
store would charge at least 1,000.00 for a lamp like that. Thats a lot
of food money.
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21 Feb 2006 07:11:06 PM |
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"Rosena" <filpriros@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1140567715.396648.288560@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
I hope some of you respond (Jean?????) because I am going loony. So
you might remember that before my surgery I got it into my head that
Maria's world, nay, her universe would implode unless before surgery we
got a couch. We didn't have one having moved so much. But I had to get
it online - spend too much (on credit) and get a burnt umber couch.
Now I am poooooor on graduate fellowship and I have it my head lately
that the world - mine or Maria's will not be okay unless we have our
chair fixed (which I did), get a table for it, a leather foot rest and
a lamp. Not any lamp mind you. This lamp (look)
http://www.neimanmarcus.com/store/catalog/prod.jhtml?cmCat=search&itemId=pro
d27560129
Why????? I don't have a clue. I am worried about leaving Maria anything
when I die. I get weaker, my health gets worse, I have a harder time
keeping up with work and so I focus in on this damn lamp. I am nuts.
Once when I was a bar waitress and very broke I borrowed 500. from my
tax man to buy two tickets to opening night at the San Francisco opera
with Pavoritti (spelling?) and my mama, now dead, made me a red satin
ball gown with black twisted lact, long gloves (it was strapless and a
full ball skirt) and a beautful black satin cape which I still have. I
went with my then fellow . . . a petty mafia Latin type who I loved
fiercly for ten years and whose children (10) I raised. I don't regret
that night for it was something - surreal and fantastic though thank
god I left Jake eventually.
Will I regret getting this lamp to leave Maria??? Will she "get it"
when all I have to leave her are these few things I purchase to make up
for her lost legacy of her grandmama and her mother's STUPID
bankrupting of the family by showering John?? Will she know all her
life that she was loved and cherished and fretted over and that she is
special in a real way (she is quirky as they come) . . . Why am I
focused on a lamp from needless markup? I think because another
operation is coming . . . .
Anyway - does anyone like the lamp??
Rosena
i don't go to posted web sites
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| User: "Nom dePlume nomdeplume1000-at-yahoo.com" |
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22 Feb 2006 12:51:01 AM |
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"Rosena" <filpriros@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1140567715.396648.288560@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Now I am poooooor on graduate fellowship and I have it my head
lately
that the world - mine or Maria's will not be okay unless we have our
chair fixed (which I did), get a table for it, a leather foot rest
and
a lamp. Not any lamp mind you. This lamp (look)
http://www.neimanmarcus.com/store/catalog/prod.jhtml?cmCat=search&itemId=prod27560129
Why????? I don't have a clue.
It is probably spillover from your research. Lamps in the Middle Ages
held a special symbolic significance, indicating the transcendance of
humanity through the agency of the Holy Spirit.
The pedestal of the lamp represented the foundational aspects of the
human condition, i.e. humans as clay, arising from the earth, and
returning to it: "Remember, man, thou art dust, and to dust thou shalt
return."
The column of the lamp, rising from the pedestal, represented man's
yearning for God. Through the agency of the Holy Spirit, man rises
from clay and passes into the realm of God.
The light source (oil, back then) represented God Himself. Yet the
column was always separated from the light by the oil container, which
itself represented the ineffable gulf separating Man from God. The
radiance that bridged the gulf, descending from source to ennobled
clay, was the effulgence of the Holy Spirit.
Theologians generally agree to this point. Less clear, and the subject
of rancorous debate, is the symbolism of the lamp shade. Some say that
it represents the shroud of ignorance overhanging humanity. Others
claim that its origins are syncretic, a holdover from dark and angry
pagan rituals, later transformed into a symbol of God's beneficent
shielding. Members of the latter school draw parallels to the means by
which simple, unleavened bread becomes the body and blood of Christ,
through Transubstantiation.
Then again, maybe you just have a thing for lamps.
--
Nom dePlume, Ph.D.
Why, yes, in fact, I am a rocket scientist.
Guide to Medications for Mental Illness:
http://www.geocities.com/nomdeplume1000/
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22 Feb 2006 05:23:04 PM |
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Nom,
I loved your reply - gave absolute method to my madness and you know,
actually some truth in way I relate to the picture of this lamp!
You are a quick wit.
Rosena
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| User: "Nom dePlume nomdeplume1000-at-yahoo.com" |
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22 Feb 2006 08:48:12 PM |
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"Rosena" <filpriros@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1140650584.752724.52990@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Nom,
I loved your reply - gave absolute method to my madness and you
know,
actually some truth in way I relate to the picture of this lamp!
You are a quick wit.
Rosena
I'm glad you enjoyed it, Rosena.
Cheers,
Nom
--
Nom dePlume, Ph.D.
Why, yes, in fact, I am a rocket scientist.
Guide to Medications for Mental Illness:
http://www.geocities.com/nomdeplume1000/
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| User: "Whiskers" |
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23 Feb 2006 12:31:20 PM |
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On 2006-02-22, Nom dePlume <nomdeplume1000-at-yahoo.com> wrote:
snip
Theologians generally agree to this point. Less clear, and the subject
of rancorous debate, is the symbolism of the lamp shade. Some say that
it represents the shroud of ignorance overhanging humanity. Others
claim that its origins are syncretic, a holdover from dark and angry
pagan rituals, later transformed into a symbol of God's beneficent
shielding. Members of the latter school draw parallels to the means by
which simple, unleavened bread becomes the body and blood of Christ,
through Transubstantiation.
Have these theologians nothing better to do - like washing the dishes or
trimming their wicks? ;))
The lampshade is obviously to stop the light from dazzling the eye. The
possible theological associations with that are pretty obvious, IMO, but
not terribly significant <WEG>
Then again, maybe you just have a thing for lamps.
Ah, now you're talking; I have a definite thing for lamps, of all kinds;
odd really, given my preference for not too much light.
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-- ^^^^^^^^^^
-- Whiskers
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| User: "Bacon" |
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21 Feb 2006 08:22:08 PM |
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"Rosena" <filpriros@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1140567715.396648.288560@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
I hope some of you respond (Jean?????) because I am going loony. So
you might remember that before my surgery I got it into my head that
Maria's world, nay, her universe would implode unless before surgery
we
got a couch. We didn't have one having moved so much. But I had to
get
it online - spend too much (on credit) and get a burnt umber couch.
Now I am poooooor on graduate fellowship and I have it my head lately
that the world - mine or Maria's will not be okay unless we have our
chair fixed (which I did), get a table for it, a leather foot rest and
a lamp. Not any lamp mind you. This lamp (look)
http://www.neimanmarcus.com/store/catalog/prod.jhtml?cmCat=search&itemId=prod27560129
Why????? I don't have a clue. I am worried about leaving Maria
anything
when I die. I get weaker, my health gets worse, I have a harder time
keeping up with work and so I focus in on this damn lamp. I am nuts.
Once when I was a bar waitress and very broke I borrowed 500. from my
tax man to buy two tickets to opening night at the San Francisco opera
with Pavoritti (spelling?) and my mama, now dead, made me a red satin
ball gown with black twisted lact, long gloves (it was strapless and a
full ball skirt) and a beautful black satin cape which I still have. I
went with my then fellow . . . a petty mafia Latin type who I loved
fiercly for ten years and whose children (10) I raised. I don't
regret
that night for it was something - surreal and fantastic though thank
god I left Jake eventually.
Will I regret getting this lamp to leave Maria??? Will she "get it"
when all I have to leave her are these few things I purchase to make
up
for her lost legacy of her grandmama and her mother's STUPID
bankrupting of the family by showering John?? Will she know all her
life that she was loved and cherished and fretted over and that she is
special in a real way (she is quirky as they come) . . . Why am I
focused on a lamp from needless markup? I think because another
operation is coming . . . .
Anyway - does anyone like the lamp??
Rosena
$300 for a lamp and they don't even include the bulb? You got screwed
(pun).
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21 Feb 2006 10:05:03 PM |
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He - He - I haven't bought it. I am hoping I can save enough and maybe
in April or May if I am careful. But I am not sure if it is a nice
spontaneous thing to do to give Maria later or a irresponsible stupid
crazy thing. Not good with this kind of thing - I live in fantasy
sometimes and it hurts me
Best
Rosena
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| User: "Bev Thornton" |
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21 Feb 2006 11:37:40 PM |
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On 2006-02-22, Rosena wrote:
special in a real way (she is quirky as they come) . . . Why am I
focused on a lamp from needless markup? I think because another
operation is coming . . . .
There you go.
All you need is light.
--
<email.4.bev@xoxy.net> Support: <http://www.aahuk.org/>
<http://www.clamwin.com/>
Do not speak harshly to anyone; those who are thus spoken to will retort.
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| User: "GlennT" |
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22 Feb 2006 05:37:05 AM |
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Bev Thornton wrote:
On 2006-02-22, Rosena wrote:
special in a real way (she is quirky as they come) . . . Why am I
focused on a lamp from needless markup? I think because another
operation is coming . . . .
There you go.
All you need is light.
And glasses.
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| User: "Rosena" |
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22 Feb 2006 05:28:01 PM |
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Definitely the glasses
Rosena
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22 Feb 2006 05:29:20 PM |
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I suppose Bev but beauty is an emotional obession with me - Libera and
all.
But said like a practical man. And I like idea of making lamp.
Best
Rosena
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22 Feb 2006 05:39:07 PM |
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On 2006-02-22, Rosena wrote:
And I like idea of making lamp.
Think light, think heirloom.
--
<reply.4.bev@xoxy.net> Support: <http://www.earthjustice.org/>
<http://who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs211>
It is better to travel well than to arrive.
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| User: "Contrarian" |
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22 Feb 2006 01:50:28 PM |
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Rosena <filpriros@aol.com> wrote:
I hope some of you respond (Jean?????) because I am going loony.<snip>
Now I am poooooor on graduate fellowship and I have it my head lately
that the world ...will not be okay [without] a lamp.
focused on a lamp from needless markup? I think because another
operation is coming . . . .
I think that's the reason. You're not alone in
doing this. One guy I worked with (super nice person,
extremely knowledgeable in some fields) would buy
a car every oh six months or so (dating crisis, brother's
difficulty) Used cars, mind you. Well at least every
year that I knew him.
And I can understand wanting a better home environment.
Anyway - does anyone like the lamp??
Hard to tell from this end (lynxer that I am)
Second scorp*'s suggestion of recreating it.
--
but the edge is still Out there. Or maybe it's In... HST (1967)
when i got to the edge , i built a deck % (2005)
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| User: "Rosena" |
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22 Feb 2006 05:27:35 PM |
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Hi you,
Yep anixety can do strange thing to desires. Right now going to worry
about Latin, watching Lost with Maria and looking forward to weekend.
Hope you are cool
Rosena
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| User: "scorpsmurf" |
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21 Feb 2006 08:37:31 PM |
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Rosena wrote:
I hope some of you respond (Jean?????) because I am going loony. So
you might remember that before my surgery I got it into my head that
Maria's world, nay, her universe would implode unless before surgery we
got a couch. We didn't have one having moved so much. But I had to get
it online - spend too much (on credit) and get a burnt umber couch.
Now I am poooooor on graduate fellowship and I have it my head lately
that the world - mine or Maria's will not be okay unless we have our
chair fixed (which I did), get a table for it, a leather foot rest and
a lamp. Not any lamp mind you. This lamp (look)
http://www.neimanmarcus.com/store/catalog/prod.jhtml?cmCat=search&itemId=prod27560129
Why????? I don't have a clue. I am worried about leaving Maria anything
when I die. I get weaker, my health gets worse, I have a harder time
keeping up with work and so I focus in on this damn lamp. I am nuts.
Once when I was a bar waitress and very broke I borrowed 500. from my
tax man to buy two tickets to opening night at the San Francisco opera
with Pavoritti (spelling?) and my mama, now dead, made me a red satin
ball gown with black twisted lact, long gloves (it was strapless and a
full ball skirt) and a beautful black satin cape which I still have. I
went with my then fellow . . . a petty mafia Latin type who I loved
fiercly for ten years and whose children (10) I raised. I don't regret
that night for it was something - surreal and fantastic though thank
god I left Jake eventually.
Will I regret getting this lamp to leave Maria??? Will she "get it"
when all I have to leave her are these few things I purchase to make up
for her lost legacy of her grandmama and her mother's STUPID
bankrupting of the family by showering John?? Will she know all her
life that she was loved and cherished and fretted over and that she is
special in a real way (she is quirky as they come) . . . Why am I
focused on a lamp from needless markup? I think because another
operation is coming . . . .
Anyway - does anyone like the lamp??
Rosena
The lamp is beautiful...God I could only wish to afford a lamp for that
much.
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21 Feb 2006 10:07:25 PM |
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Hi,
It is pretty eh? That is the thing - I absolutely cannot - cannot
afford it. We are truly poor right now. I just have this idea that if
I create a nice reading spot for us that somehow all will be fine . . .
I am going to wait a couple of months to 1) save and 2) mull it over.
Fun to share the thought though, glad you like it
Best
Rosena
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| User: "scorpsmurf" |
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21 Feb 2006 10:18:30 PM |
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Rosena wrote:
Hi,
It is pretty eh? That is the thing - I absolutely cannot - cannot
afford it. We are truly poor right now. I just have this idea that if
I create a nice reading spot for us that somehow all will be fine . . .
I am going to wait a couple of months to 1) save and 2) mull it over.
Fun to share the thought though, glad you like it
Best
Rosena
I'm a bit confused as to your whole situation.....but creating a nice
little reading spot would be nice....perhaps you could look at a
salvation army or goodwill and "create" the lamp like you want with
neiman marcus.
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| User: "Rosena" |
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21 Feb 2006 10:26:16 PM |
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Great idea - actually I thought of doing that. There is a good second
hand store here in Champaign that gives its proceeds to Habitat for
Humanity and I thought I'd print pictures of the things I am in fantasy
land about and then see how I could get same "feel" or "air" from
something used that I could paint or doll up. Actually Maria would get
a big kick out of doing that. Thanks for the input.
Rosena
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| User: "scorpsmurf" |
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21 Feb 2006 10:37:27 PM |
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Rosena wrote:
Great idea - actually I thought of doing that. There is a good second
hand store here in Champaign that gives its proceeds to Habitat for
Humanity and I thought I'd print pictures of the things I am in fantasy
land about and then see how I could get same "feel" or "air" from
something used that I could paint or doll up. Actually Maria would get
a big kick out of doing that. Thanks for the input.
Rosena
I watch a lot of HGTV...and get a lot of ideas from Design on a
Dime....As soon as I my boyfriend and I get a house together, I am
going to be using alot of the ideas that I get from there in my own
home..... When I lived with my ex.....I had bought a wrought iron
candle holder, it held about 12 candles..but instead of putting candles
on each tier, I put little clusters of river rocks on some... also from
Wal-Mart I bought little plaster columns, and some gold paint...then
just lightly put some gold paint on them to give them that aged
look....put small pot with ivy on top and let it cascade over the top
and it was beautiful above my cabinets in my kitchen....man I miss
doing that...can't wait to get a place of my own again, meaning no
renting!
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| User: "Rosena" |
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21 Feb 2006 10:41:49 PM |
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Oh the sounds so pretty. Actually, I get driven to do these things
more with renting because you need to make it your own eh? Are you
hoping for a house soon? That is always exciting.
Rosena
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| User: "scorpsmurf" |
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21 Feb 2006 10:46:28 PM |
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Rosena wrote:
Oh the sounds so pretty. Actually, I get driven to do these things
more with renting because you need to make it your own eh? Are you
hoping for a house soon? That is always exciting.
Rosena
I am hoping....but will probably get a different place to rent before
the whole house thing.....the place I'm in now....well it sort of
depresses me really....though I'm slowly trying to get things situated
in here...I've only been here since the middle of Oct...and I hate
it....I like my other apartment much better...it was newer..this place
hasn't been remodeled since it was built like in the '50s or '60s...but
oh well..it was the cheapest thing i could find on such short notice..
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