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11 Oct 2005 04:33:21 PM |
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@ ***** You Claudia @ |
I am SOOOOOO sick of your *****. I have been looking for rescue exactly
how, *****???
By working no matter how fucked up I am??? By taking care of my little
girl???? By going back to school successfully????? By being a law
professor???? By taking Maria for a trip to England and getting around
in my wheel chair by myself??? By lifting my own scooter, dealing with
my own handicap??? Getting myself to surgery??? And On and ON.
WHO THE ***** ARE YOU - who has excuse after excuse after excuse why
they cannot be thankful to Life for giving you all you have, YOU who
has the chairty of a stone, to judge me????????
And Jean this hostility is not meant for you BUT EXACTL^Y what was the
point of that thread??? Am I doing something morally wrong because my
life is academic and that is my bent???
And for anyone who cares my BA is Philosphy of Law. My JD is Law. My
Masters is medieval history. And my current program is medieval legal
history. DOES IT MATTER to anyone -- hurt you in some way -- if I get
my jollys from old dead men and women and their lives and thoughts and
feats??????????
I am so pissed. Claudia STAY AWAY PLEASE FROM ANYTHING ABOUT ME
as I do you. You whinny *****
Rosena
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11 Oct 2005 04:46:05 PM |
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"Rosena" <filpriros@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1129066401.730670.318470@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
I am SOOOOOO sick of your *****. I have been looking for rescue exactly
how, *****???
By working no matter how fucked up I am??? By taking care of my little
girl???? By going back to school successfully????? By being a law
professor???? By taking Maria for a trip to England and getting around
in my wheel chair by myself??? By lifting my own scooter, dealing with
my own handicap??? Getting myself to surgery??? And On and ON.
WHO THE ***** ARE YOU - who has excuse after excuse after excuse why
they cannot be thankful to Life for giving you all you have, YOU who
has the chairty of a stone, to judge me????????
And Jean this hostility is not meant for you BUT EXACTL^Y what was the
point of that thread??? Am I doing something morally wrong because my
life is academic and that is my bent???
And for anyone who cares my BA is Philosphy of Law. My JD is Law. My
Masters is medieval history. And my current program is medieval legal
history. DOES IT MATTER to anyone -- hurt you in some way -- if I get
my jollys from old dead men and women and their lives and thoughts and
feats??????????
I am so pissed. Claudia STAY AWAY PLEASE FROM ANYTHING ABOUT ME
as I do you. You whinny *****
Rosena
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From: "Rosena" <filpriros@aol.com>
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11 Oct 2005 05:51:58 PM |
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This made me laugh.
Only takes one sentence with my name on it to send the Persecution
Complex Factory into full production. I could've said nothing but
"hi, Rosena, sorry things are bad". The reaction would be the same.
Keep trying to whip me, Rosena, because what I represent to you is
everything you want to whip and beat out of yourself.
I know you're reading this. Because I ***** you off and it makes your
skin tingle and you want more, baby. Killfiling me and say... getting
on with your life without me in it? That would require choosing
between the masochism you crave and your best interests.
Your daughter deserves better. Quit wasting your energy on me and put
it into her.
(sits back and waits)
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I've always loved me, I was just taught that I didn't.
- %
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11 Oct 2005 07:27:16 PM |
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I am calm now. What I said to you pretty much stands and lets not
loose sight, dear, about what got me angry. YOU saying I would
probably whine for a rescuer for Maria and I. That alone got a
response.
Your catty remarks are just that, catty.
But there is a grain of truth in what you say. You do represent
everything to me which I want to beat out of myself. You lack
graciousness. You refuse to help others in need. You sound off about
"men" as the needy evil Other who somehow always crave you (such
modesty and humility!). The idea of taking care of another human being
is for you worse than being thrown to the lions. You do not bear
poverty with dignity. And most of all: you sound off about people
(such as me) who you know absolutely nothing about. Finally, you pity
yourself in a deep deep way and cry victim.
I never want to be any of those things. I never want to be you. I do
not want to cry out how Life has eaten me alive. Rather, even in a
condition not to fight, I want to fight and cry out to Life do what you
will but I stand and I love you so do your worse for never will I be
your victim!
Please Claudia, I ask you softly, keep your catty remarks about me to
yourself. I leave you completely alone until you go off on me. BTW -
truth is if anyone is looking for a rescuer - its you.
Rosena
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11 Oct 2005 07:59:00 PM |
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"Rosena" <filpriros@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1129076836.394516.73520@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
I am calm now. What I said to you pretty much stands and lets not
loose sight, dear, about what got me angry. YOU saying I would
probably whine for a rescuer for Maria and I. That alone got a
response.
Your catty remarks are just that, catty.
But there is a grain of truth in what you say. You do represent
everything to me which I want to beat out of myself. You lack
graciousness. You refuse to help others in need. You sound off about
"men" as the needy evil Other who somehow always crave you (such
modesty and humility!). The idea of taking care of another human being
is for you worse than being thrown to the lions. You do not bear
poverty with dignity. And most of all: you sound off about people
(such as me) who you know absolutely nothing about. Finally, you pity
yourself in a deep deep way and cry victim.
I never want to be any of those things. I never want to be you. I do
not want to cry out how Life has eaten me alive. Rather, even in a
condition not to fight, I want to fight and cry out to Life do what you
will but I stand and I love you so do your worse for never will I be
your victim!
Please Claudia, I ask you softly, keep your catty remarks about me to
yourself. I leave you completely alone until you go off on me. BTW -
truth is if anyone is looking for a rescuer - its you.
Rosena
This almost sounds *judgemental*.
--
Rhiannon
rhianon@sympatico.ca
The Labyrinth
http://thelabyrinthofr.blogspot.com
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11 Oct 2005 08:19:58 PM |
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->"Rosena" <filpriros@aol.com> wrote in message
->news:1129076836.394516.73520@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
->>
->> I am calm now. What I said to you pretty much stands and lets not
->> loose sight, dear, about what got me angry. YOU saying I would
->> probably whine for a rescuer for Maria and I. That alone got a
->> response.
->> Your catty remarks are just that, catty.
And true.
->> But there is a grain of truth in what you say. You do represent
->> everything to me which I want to beat out of myself. You lack
->> graciousness. You refuse to help others in need.
I can't help anyone until I help myself. The martyr trip gets old.
->>You sound off about
->> "men" as the needy evil Other who somehow always crave you (such
->> modesty and humility!).
Tell that to the guy in my building who offered me $100 for a *****.
Geez, he can get it for $20 on US19. Five miles away. Don't hate me
because I'm beautiful. Oh, wait, you do.
I put up with that ***** EVERY DAMN DAY. Jealous? I'll give you his
phone number. You can have ALL the fucking no-account assholes who
harass me every damned day because of where I have to live. They're
all yours.
->>The idea of taking care of another human being
->> is for you worse than being thrown to the lions.
Since I can't take care of myself, it's a damn good thing I decided to
be childfree at 16. You may not believe it, but I respect your
attempt to be a good parent far more than I can say. It is a
challenge I could never rise to.
->>You do not bear poverty with dignity.
I read this five minutes ago and I am still shaking my head. If some
spoiled brat who never went without a meal wrote it, I'd laugh. From
you, it makes me sad.
You KNOW poverty, Rosena. Ugly dirty soul-stealing poverty, you know
it all. Tell me where the dignity is. Anywhere.
->>And most of all: you sound off about people
->> (such as me) who you know absolutely nothing about.
You air your life on ASD like *****-stained dirty laundry, what's not
to know?
->>Finally, you pity
->> yourself in a deep deep way and cry victim.
WAAAAAAAAH.
->> I never want to be any of those things. I never want to be you. I do
->> not want to cry out how Life has eaten me alive. Rather, even in a
->> condition not to fight, I want to fight and cry out to Life do what you
->> will but I stand and I love you so do your worse for never will I be
->> your victim!
Victim, hell. I want you to toughen up. You've been a victim for
far too long. You're too goddamned smart and passionate for the
suffering-Messiah cage you've built around yourself.
I'm angry and nasty and a hard-***** and it's not your style. You are
more inclined to the eternal feminine. That's cool, we're different.
I'm not your enemy. I'm also not your sycophant.
->> Please Claudia, I ask you softly, keep your catty remarks about me to
->> yourself. I leave you completely alone until you go off on me. BTW -
->> truth is if anyone is looking for a rescuer - its you.
Yeah, baby. My rescue will my vocabulary and my brilliance. Not some
medieval image of fawning chivalry, and not some nasty-***** neighbor
throwing his VA check at me to play with his *****.
Moving along now.
--
I've always loved me, I was just taught that I didn't.
- %
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| User: "Luna" |
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11 Oct 2005 08:45:30 PM |
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"notchimera" <dont@bother.com> wrote in message
news:3qnok1hjjek59rl5m2i4nha1s5dvd65q9k@4ax.com...
->"Rosena" <filpriros@aol.com> wrote in message
->news:1129076836.394516.73520@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
->>
->> I am calm now. What I said to you pretty much stands and lets not
->> loose sight, dear, about what got me angry. YOU saying I would
->> probably whine for a rescuer for Maria and I. That alone got a
->> response.
->> Your catty remarks are just that, catty.
And true.
->> But there is a grain of truth in what you say. You do represent
->> everything to me which I want to beat out of myself. You lack
->> graciousness. You refuse to help others in need.
I can't help anyone until I help myself. The martyr trip gets old.
->>You sound off about
->> "men" as the needy evil Other who somehow always crave you (such
->> modesty and humility!).
Tell that to the guy in my building who offered me $100 for a *****.
Geez, he can get it for $20 on US19. Five miles away. Don't hate me
because I'm beautiful. Oh, wait, you do.
I put up with that ***** EVERY DAMN DAY. Jealous? I'll give you his
phone number. You can have ALL the fucking no-account assholes who
harass me every damned day because of where I have to live. They're
all yours.
You really have to start putting clothes on when you go outside, honey.
Jean
->>The idea of taking care of another human being
->> is for you worse than being thrown to the lions.
Since I can't take care of myself, it's a damn good thing I decided to
be childfree at 16. You may not believe it, but I respect your
attempt to be a good parent far more than I can say. It is a
challenge I could never rise to.
->>You do not bear poverty with dignity.
I read this five minutes ago and I am still shaking my head. If some
spoiled brat who never went without a meal wrote it, I'd laugh. From
you, it makes me sad.
You KNOW poverty, Rosena. Ugly dirty soul-stealing poverty, you know
it all. Tell me where the dignity is. Anywhere.
->>And most of all: you sound off about people
->> (such as me) who you know absolutely nothing about.
You air your life on ASD like *****-stained dirty laundry, what's not
to know?
->>Finally, you pity
->> yourself in a deep deep way and cry victim.
WAAAAAAAAH.
->> I never want to be any of those things. I never want to be you. I do
->> not want to cry out how Life has eaten me alive. Rather, even in a
->> condition not to fight, I want to fight and cry out to Life do what
you
->> will but I stand and I love you so do your worse for never will I be
->> your victim!
Victim, hell. I want you to toughen up. You've been a victim for
far too long. You're too goddamned smart and passionate for the
suffering-Messiah cage you've built around yourself.
I'm angry and nasty and a hard-***** and it's not your style. You are
more inclined to the eternal feminine. That's cool, we're different.
I'm not your enemy. I'm also not your sycophant.
->> Please Claudia, I ask you softly, keep your catty remarks about me to
->> yourself. I leave you completely alone until you go off on me. BTW -
->> truth is if anyone is looking for a rescuer - its you.
Yeah, baby. My rescue will my vocabulary and my brilliance. Not some
medieval image of fawning chivalry, and not some nasty-***** neighbor
throwing his VA check at me to play with his *****.
Moving along now.
--
I've always loved me, I was just taught that I didn't.
- %
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11 Oct 2005 08:55:23 PM |
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"Luna" <lunajean@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:U-ednZSmbeiS9tHeRVn-pg@rogers.com...
"notchimera" <dont@bother.com> wrote in message
news:3qnok1hjjek59rl5m2i4nha1s5dvd65q9k@4ax.com...
->"Rosena" <filpriros@aol.com> wrote in message
->news:1129076836.394516.73520@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
->>
->> I am calm now. What I said to you pretty much stands and lets not
->> loose sight, dear, about what got me angry. YOU saying I would
->> probably whine for a rescuer for Maria and I. That alone got a
->> response.
->> Your catty remarks are just that, catty.
And true.
->> But there is a grain of truth in what you say. You do represent
->> everything to me which I want to beat out of myself. You lack
->> graciousness. You refuse to help others in need.
I can't help anyone until I help myself. The martyr trip gets old.
->>You sound off about
->> "men" as the needy evil Other who somehow always crave you (such
->> modesty and humility!).
Tell that to the guy in my building who offered me $100 for a *****.
Geez, he can get it for $20 on US19. Five miles away. Don't hate me
because I'm beautiful. Oh, wait, you do.
I put up with that ***** EVERY DAMN DAY. Jealous? I'll give you his
phone number. You can have ALL the fucking no-account assholes who
harass me every damned day because of where I have to live. They're
all yours.
You really have to start putting clothes on when you go outside, honey.
Jean
->>The idea of taking care of another human being
->> is for you worse than being thrown to the lions.
Since I can't take care of myself, it's a damn good thing I decided to
be childfree at 16. You may not believe it, but I respect your
attempt to be a good parent far more than I can say. It is a
challenge I could never rise to.
->>You do not bear poverty with dignity.
I read this five minutes ago and I am still shaking my head. If some
spoiled brat who never went without a meal wrote it, I'd laugh. From
you, it makes me sad.
You KNOW poverty, Rosena. Ugly dirty soul-stealing poverty, you know
it all. Tell me where the dignity is. Anywhere.
->>And most of all: you sound off about people
->> (such as me) who you know absolutely nothing about.
You air your life on ASD like *****-stained dirty laundry, what's not
to know?
->>Finally, you pity
->> yourself in a deep deep way and cry victim.
WAAAAAAAAH.
->> I never want to be any of those things. I never want to be you. I
do
->> not want to cry out how Life has eaten me alive. Rather, even in a
->> condition not to fight, I want to fight and cry out to Life do what
you
->> will but I stand and I love you so do your worse for never will I be
->> your victim!
Victim, hell. I want you to toughen up. You've been a victim for
far too long. You're too goddamned smart and passionate for the
suffering-Messiah cage you've built around yourself.
I'm angry and nasty and a hard-***** and it's not your style. You are
more inclined to the eternal feminine. That's cool, we're different.
I'm not your enemy. I'm also not your sycophant.
->> Please Claudia, I ask you softly, keep your catty remarks about me
to
->> yourself. I leave you completely alone until you go off on me.
BTW -
->> truth is if anyone is looking for a rescuer - its you.
Yeah, baby. My rescue will my vocabulary and my brilliance. Not some
medieval image of fawning chivalry, and not some nasty-***** neighbor
throwing his VA check at me to play with his *****.
Moving along now.
--
I've always loved me, I was just taught that I didn't.
- %
i think i got turkey on my mouse
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11 Oct 2005 09:01:36 PM |
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"%" <Persent@Gmail.com> wrote in message
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i think i got turkey on my mouse
I had turkey and gravy for dinner.
Jean
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11 Oct 2005 09:11:10 PM |
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"Luna" <lunajean@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:34OdnUVJOL9J89HeRVn-ug@rogers.com...
"%" <Persent@Gmail.com> wrote in message
news:K5WdnbIm66l88dHeRVn-tw@giganews.com...
<snip>
i think i got turkey on my mouse
I had turkey and gravy for dinner.
Jean
maybe you should think about increasing your meds
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11 Oct 2005 08:02:55 PM |
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Softly said - I know, I do sound very judgmental. And I should refrain.
Claudia and I just don't like each other and I am so sick of catty
remarks. But geeezzz, you'd think a grown woman could hold it in.
Basically the spirit of what I said remains, but I know I am being a
hypocrite. :(
Rosena
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11 Oct 2005 06:15:01 PM |
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"Rosena" <filpriros@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1129066401.730670.318470@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
I am SOOOOOO sick of your *****. I have been looking for rescue exactly
how, *****???
By working no matter how fucked up I am??? By taking care of my little
girl???? By going back to school successfully????? By being a law
professor???? By taking Maria for a trip to England and getting around
in my wheel chair by myself??? By lifting my own scooter, dealing with
my own handicap??? Getting myself to surgery??? And On and ON.
WHO THE ***** ARE YOU - who has excuse after excuse after excuse why
they cannot be thankful to Life for giving you all you have, YOU who
has the chairty of a stone, to judge me????????
And Jean this hostility is not meant for you BUT EXACTL^Y what was the
point of that thread??? Am I doing something morally wrong because my
life is academic and that is my bent???
Ah, now I get it. Okay. There was a bit of judgment from me there. I
don't think you should be moving again now that Maria has got a good group
of friends and she seems to be so upset. I can understand the pull of the
more stimulating job for sure. It's really none of my business though and
I'm sorry I upset you.
And for anyone who cares my BA is Philosphy of Law. My JD is Law. My
Masters is medieval history. And my current program is medieval legal
history. DOES IT MATTER to anyone -- hurt you in some way -- if I get
my jollys from old dead men and women and their lives and thoughts and
feats??????????
I am so pissed. Claudia STAY AWAY PLEASE FROM ANYTHING ABOUT ME
as I do you. You whinny *****
She's a PTSD hardass whiny ***** and every man that ever looks at her wants
her. Don't you forget it.
Jean
Rosena
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11 Oct 2005 07:17:53 PM |
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Okay Jean,
Sorry, I am calm though I am about to read Claudia's reply and will
probably throw up again. I see, I didn't understand that you were
thinking not to move was a good idea. It is your business by the way
because you are my friend and I am yours and so that means that we care
about each other.
I do see point. Actually, I haven't even called the law school back to
set up an interview . . . .I am torn between exactly this: getting job
for money for Maria and staying here for stability for Maria. Only
that: Maria - is on my mind. I am NOT thinking about how to satisfy my
own urges for academics. Honest.
Okay - if stay here probably can get just enough support to get us by.
I think, not sure. And I am with you. I really think moving is bad
idea . . . I don't know, 100,000 a year could get her college and a
home and art lessons etc. I am being cautious and I want to wait a
couple of months to see how therapy goes. But you and are on same
page!!
love
Rosena
P.S. I was pissed at Claudia for saying I would look for rescuer and
not take care of things myself
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| User: "Luna" |
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11 Oct 2005 07:40:58 PM |
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"Rosena" <filpriros@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1129076273.284079.321170@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Okay Jean,
Sorry, I am calm though I am about to read Claudia's reply and will
probably throw up again. I see, I didn't understand that you were
thinking not to move was a good idea. It is your business by the way
because you are my friend and I am yours and so that means that we care
about each other.
That's pretty much it, I think. No matter what dumb thing I ever say to you
or you to me, we should both keep that in mind.
So far as Claudia goes, good lord. She's an idiot. Ignore her.
I do see point. Actually, I haven't even called the law school back to
set up an interview . . . .I am torn between exactly this: getting job
for money for Maria and staying here for stability for Maria. Only
that: Maria - is on my mind. I am NOT thinking about how to satisfy my
own urges for academics. Honest.
Okay - if stay here probably can get just enough support to get us by.
I think, not sure. And I am with you. I really think moving is bad
idea . . . I don't know, 100,000 a year could get her college and a
home and art lessons etc. I am being cautious and I want to wait a
couple of months to see how therapy goes. But you and are on same
page!!
Okay, good. I was upset that you were upset with me.
Jean
love
Rosena
P.S. I was pissed at Claudia for saying I would look for rescuer and
not take care of things myself
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| User: "%" |
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11 Oct 2005 07:32:08 PM |
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ok , lets just say it really is you and get back to the , " Dave ' bit ,
you got something on your mind about me asking you ,
what you're going to do now re : your daughter , well , i'd love to read it
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| User: "Rosena" |
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11 Oct 2005 07:37:50 PM |
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No - I do not mind at all being asked what I will do for Maria. I
minded the reply to Claudia you made that I don't reply because you ask
me hard questions (paraphrased). I took everyone's advice, even
Sortalily's who hates me but made perfect sound sense and acted on it.
Perhaps I over-reacted to you. In Italian there is a phrase for a
person who you cannot abide because it goes to your stomach soul
reactions. That is the case with Claudia and me and since you replied
to her, it spilled over.
Rosena
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| Title: Re: @ ***** You Claudia @ |
11 Oct 2005 06:59:22 PM |
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On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 19:15:01 -0400, "Luna" <lunajean@gmail.com> wrote:
"Rosena" <filpriros@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1129066401.730670.318470@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
I am SOOOOOO sick of your *****. I have been looking for rescue exactly
how, *****???
By working no matter how fucked up I am??? By taking care of my little
girl???? By going back to school successfully????? By being a law
professor???? By taking Maria for a trip to England and getting around
in my wheel chair by myself??? By lifting my own scooter, dealing with
my own handicap??? Getting myself to surgery??? And On and ON.
WHO THE ***** ARE YOU - who has excuse after excuse after excuse why
they cannot be thankful to Life for giving you all you have, YOU who
has the chairty of a stone, to judge me????????
And Jean this hostility is not meant for you BUT EXACTL^Y what was the
point of that thread??? Am I doing something morally wrong because my
life is academic and that is my bent???
Ah, now I get it. Okay. There was a bit of judgment from me there. I
don't think you should be moving again now that Maria has got a good group
of friends and she seems to be so upset. I can understand the pull of the
more stimulating job for sure. It's really none of my business though and
I'm sorry I upset you.
Well, she already moved, I believe, this summer. But anyway, I didn't
take it as judgement; I took it as practical advice. There are times
when you can afford to go off on whatever tangent, and there are times
when you just have to take care of what needs to be done. That's good
advice for anyone (and something that I need to remember a hell of a
lot more than I usually do).
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| User: "Luna" |
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| Title: Re: @ ***** You Claudia @ |
11 Oct 2005 07:36:00 PM |
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"Nina" <ninaNOSPAM@economika.net> wrote in message
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On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 19:15:01 -0400, "Luna" <lunajean@gmail.com> wrote:
"Rosena" <filpriros@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1129066401.730670.318470@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
I am SOOOOOO sick of your *****. I have been looking for rescue exactly
how, *****???
By working no matter how fucked up I am??? By taking care of my little
girl???? By going back to school successfully????? By being a law
professor???? By taking Maria for a trip to England and getting around
in my wheel chair by myself??? By lifting my own scooter, dealing with
my own handicap??? Getting myself to surgery??? And On and ON.
WHO THE ***** ARE YOU - who has excuse after excuse after excuse why
they cannot be thankful to Life for giving you all you have, YOU who
has the chairty of a stone, to judge me????????
And Jean this hostility is not meant for you BUT EXACTL^Y what was the
point of that thread??? Am I doing something morally wrong because my
life is academic and that is my bent???
Ah, now I get it. Okay. There was a bit of judgment from me there. I
don't think you should be moving again now that Maria has got a good
group
of friends and she seems to be so upset. I can understand the pull of
the
more stimulating job for sure. It's really none of my business though
and
I'm sorry I upset you.
Well, she already moved, I believe, this summer. But anyway, I didn't
take it as judgement; I took it as practical advice. There are times
when you can afford to go off on whatever tangent, and there are times
when you just have to take care of what needs to be done. That's good
advice for anyone (and something that I need to remember a hell of a
lot more than I usually do).
She did, but she was talking about moving again. Well, not talking about
it, just wondering out loud more like. She actually said in her original
musing that it probably wasn't a good idea.
I think Rosena and I have similar temperaments in that, when we're upset
anything that even hints at criticism is hard to take. I reread the
post/thread I made that she was offended by and it did come across a little
'talking down to'.
I think being misunderstood, in my case, isn't always everyone else's fault.
It happens too often for that to be the case. :)
Jean
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| User: "%" |
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| Title: Re: @ ***** You Claudia @ |
11 Oct 2005 07:40:33 PM |
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"Luna" <lunajean@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"Nina" <ninaNOSPAM@economika.net> wrote in message
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On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 19:15:01 -0400, "Luna" <lunajean@gmail.com> wrote:
"Rosena" <filpriros@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1129066401.730670.318470@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
I am SOOOOOO sick of your *****. I have been looking for rescue
exactly
how, *****???
By working no matter how fucked up I am??? By taking care of my
little
girl???? By going back to school successfully????? By being a law
professor???? By taking Maria for a trip to England and getting
around
in my wheel chair by myself??? By lifting my own scooter, dealing
with
my own handicap??? Getting myself to surgery??? And On and ON.
WHO THE ***** ARE YOU - who has excuse after excuse after excuse why
they cannot be thankful to Life for giving you all you have, YOU who
has the chairty of a stone, to judge me????????
And Jean this hostility is not meant for you BUT EXACTL^Y what was
the
point of that thread??? Am I doing something morally wrong because
my
life is academic and that is my bent???
Ah, now I get it. Okay. There was a bit of judgment from me there. I
don't think you should be moving again now that Maria has got a good
group
of friends and she seems to be so upset. I can understand the pull of
the
more stimulating job for sure. It's really none of my business though
and
I'm sorry I upset you.
Well, she already moved, I believe, this summer. But anyway, I didn't
take it as judgement; I took it as practical advice. There are times
when you can afford to go off on whatever tangent, and there are times
when you just have to take care of what needs to be done. That's good
advice for anyone (and something that I need to remember a hell of a
lot more than I usually do).
She did, but she was talking about moving again. Well, not talking about
it, just wondering out loud more like. She actually said in her original
musing that it probably wasn't a good idea.
I think Rosena and I have similar temperaments in that, when we're upset
anything that even hints at criticism is hard to take. I reread the
post/thread I made that she was offended by and it did come across a
little
'talking down to'.
I think being misunderstood, in my case, isn't always everyone else's
fault.
It happens too often for that to be the case. :)
Jean
i always know what you mean , Jean
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| User: "Nina" |
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| Title: Re: @ ***** You Claudia @ |
11 Oct 2005 07:42:04 PM |
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On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 20:36:00 -0400, "Luna" <lunajean@gmail.com> wrote:
"Nina" <ninaNOSPAM@economika.net> wrote in message
news:9bkok1plutogbabqqumol58409469q2ub0@4ax.com...
On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 19:15:01 -0400, "Luna" <lunajean@gmail.com> wrote:
"Rosena" <filpriros@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1129066401.730670.318470@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
I am SOOOOOO sick of your *****. I have been looking for rescue exactly
how, *****???
By working no matter how fucked up I am??? By taking care of my little
girl???? By going back to school successfully????? By being a law
professor???? By taking Maria for a trip to England and getting around
in my wheel chair by myself??? By lifting my own scooter, dealing with
my own handicap??? Getting myself to surgery??? And On and ON.
WHO THE ***** ARE YOU - who has excuse after excuse after excuse why
they cannot be thankful to Life for giving you all you have, YOU who
has the chairty of a stone, to judge me????????
And Jean this hostility is not meant for you BUT EXACTL^Y what was the
point of that thread??? Am I doing something morally wrong because my
life is academic and that is my bent???
Ah, now I get it. Okay. There was a bit of judgment from me there. I
don't think you should be moving again now that Maria has got a good
group
of friends and she seems to be so upset. I can understand the pull of
the
more stimulating job for sure. It's really none of my business though
and
I'm sorry I upset you.
Well, she already moved, I believe, this summer. But anyway, I didn't
take it as judgement; I took it as practical advice. There are times
when you can afford to go off on whatever tangent, and there are times
when you just have to take care of what needs to be done. That's good
advice for anyone (and something that I need to remember a hell of a
lot more than I usually do).
She did, but she was talking about moving again. Well, not talking about
it, just wondering out loud more like. She actually said in her original
musing that it probably wasn't a good idea.
Yeah, I totally missed that.
I think Rosena and I have similar temperaments in that, when we're upset
anything that even hints at criticism is hard to take. I reread the
post/thread I made that she was offended by and it did come across a little
'talking down to'.
I think being misunderstood, in my case, isn't always everyone else's fault.
It happens too often for that to be the case. :)
I think that's one of the things that usenet has really taught me, to
try to put the best possible spin on things rather than the worst. I
didn't think you were talking down to her at all; it made sense to me.
:-)
Jean
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| User: "Nom dePlume nomdeplume1000-at-yahoo.com" |
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| Title: Re: @ ***** You Claudia @ |
11 Oct 2005 07:27:30 PM |
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Rosena - I don't know what has happened here. I looked but couldn't
find the posts you must be referring to. It sounds like you under
tremendous pressure now, and I can well believe it. Take care of
yourself, OK? You deserve a bit of coddling too.
--
Nom dePlume, Ph.D.
Why, yes, in fact, I am a rocket scientist.
Guide to Medications for Mental Illness:
http://www.geocities.com/nomdeplume1000/
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| User: "Rosena" |
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| Title: Re: @ ***** You Claudia @ |
11 Oct 2005 07:54:19 PM |
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Thanks Nom,
I am a bit frayed. Got to wait before hit "send" - you know us Italian
women, quick to get hot :)
Hope you and family are good. You are a good pal.
Rosena
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