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"Rosena" |
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11 Jun 2005 06:31:05 PM |
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@ At That Place @ |
Where weak in will, befuddled, spinning from what needs to be done and
physically failing -- that place that leads me to seek escape.
I will not say what is going on physically for it is so much that it
would bore and agitate a reader. It bores and agitates me.
Suffice to say, operation helped heart, but not legs. Indeed, and
oddly, in more pain now than before . . .so still no walking for me.
And several other things are going wrong.
I came across old writings between John and I where I had written
questions for him regarding a text of Hedigger, he answered each
question and then I responded under that answer suggesting another
thought, directing him away from an idea or confirming. It is a long
dialogue - several typed and hand written pages. I was very excited to
find in Birmingham this incredible hungry - starved - fine mind that
was obessed as I was with trying to discern Being, and the "isness" of
being in the world. Obessed with trying to understand how bread is
transformed to flesh, and blood to wine, what virtues pertained to
manhood, what truly reflected profound thinking . . .
I don't know how to let go. Oh gawd, I know people will disrespect me
for this, it will sound haughty and prideful. But I don't know how to
go on in this world, within this universe, without that kindred who
shares . . . I do not know what to say. it is this: To stand in the
universe screaming and schreeching for God to show dare show his face
and justify himself in this world of torment, decay, and darkness, is
bearable when another understands in the blink of an eye the details
and nuances of one's agony. But to stand - alone - with no one who
sees in to your hell, and to go at it alone through fire and under
attack by demon's arrows - that is unbearable.
I need to learn to be satisfied with Friday barbecues in the backyard,
chat about housing prices, marriage without constant passion, Tom
Cruise movies, I don't know . . .this ceaseless question of Why Are we
Here is not the trouble, though it torments. It is to be left to ask
it alone.
Rosena
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| User: "Rhiannon" |
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| Title: Re: @ At That Place @ |
11 Jun 2005 09:48:31 PM |
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"Rosena" <filpriros@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1118532665.891330.28240@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
But to stand - alone - with no one who
sees in to your hell, and to go at it alone through fire and under
attack by demon's arrows - that is unbearable.
Rosena
Every time he laid his hands on you in rage you were standing alone.
There are better minds. More inquisitive minds. Minds hungry for
knowledge. And many of them come in gentle, loving, admirable men. Real
men who know how to respect and cherish women.
All you need do is look ahead of you rather than behind you. It is the only
way to see them coming.
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rhianon@sympatico.ca
"Often, and unfortunately, sometimes our
best view of God is from Hell."
@LW2005
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| User: "Rosena" |
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| Title: Re: @ At That Place @ |
11 Jun 2005 09:24:36 PM |
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you are right as usual :) - just down - don't want to leave this law
school, will miss students, you know, just having pity party. Thanks -
hope you are well wonderfu; Rhiannon!
Rosena
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| User: "Rhiannon" |
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| Title: Re: @ At That Place @ |
12 Jun 2005 01:10:16 AM |
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"Rosena" <filpriros@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1118543076.573385.169520@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
you are right as usual :) - just down - don't want to leave this law
school, will miss students, you know, just having pity party. Thanks -
hope you are well wonderfu; Rhiannon!
Rosena
Yeah. Leaving a place can be difficult. Even a place you don't want to be
can sometimes gets a hold of you for the strangest of reasons. On the other
hand you have a lot to look forward to. Perhaps as you get closer to the
move you will start to feel more excited. I thought your mention of a dog
for Maria is a good idea. The responsibility of taking care of a pet can go
a long way in bolstering confidence and self esteem. And they are just so
full of love all the time they have a way of making you forget all the bad
stuff that happens in a day.
As for me. Eh. You know how it goes. Got a lot on my mind at the moment.
Feeling a little weighed down by the world. But it will pass. It always
does. My own little pooch is sitting beside me right now trying her best to
get a kiss in while I am trying to type. I adore her.
Once you get the move out of the way I hope you can relax some. Take a
breather at least. You have been through so much in the last few months.
Some times I don't know how you manage it. :)
--
rhianon@sympatico.ca
"Often, and unfortunately, sometimes our
best view of God is from Hell."
@LW2005
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| User: "Whiskers" |
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12 Jun 2005 09:24:39 AM |
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On 2005-06-11, Rosena <filpriros@aol.com> wrote:
Where weak in will, befuddled, spinning from what needs to be done and
physically failing -- that place that leads me to seek escape.
I will not say what is going on physically for it is so much that it
would bore and agitate a reader. It bores and agitates me.
Suffice to say, operation helped heart, but not legs. Indeed, and
oddly, in more pain now than before . . .so still no walking for me.
And several other things are going wrong.
Perhaps the pain in your legs signifies healing? Some things happen slowly.
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-- Whiskers
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| User: "Tim Kett" |
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| Title: Re: @ At That Place @ |
11 Jun 2005 07:07:16 PM |
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Rosena <filpriros@aol.com> wrote in article
<1118532665.891330.28240@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>...
Where weak in will, befuddled, spinning from what needs to be done and
physically failing -- that place that leads me to seek escape.
I will not say what is going on physically for it is so much that it
would bore and agitate a reader. It bores and agitates me.
Suffice to say, operation helped heart, but not legs. Indeed, and
oddly, in more pain now than before . . .so still no walking for me.
And several other things are going wrong.
I came across old writings between John and I where I had written
questions for him regarding a text of Hedigger, he answered each
question and then I responded under that answer suggesting another
thought, directing him away from an idea or confirming. It is a long
dialogue - several typed and hand written pages. I was very excited to
find in Birmingham this incredible hungry - starved - fine mind that
was obessed as I was with trying to discern Being, and the "isness" of
being in the world. Obessed with trying to understand how bread is
transformed to flesh, and blood to wine,
I dont understand. How could you ever make blood into wine. Is this a
religious thing?
what virtues pertained to
manhood, what truly reflected profound thinking . . .
I don't know how to let go. Oh gawd, I know people will disrespect me
for this, it will sound haughty and prideful. But I don't know how to
go on in this world, within this universe, without that kindred who
shares . . . I do not know what to say. it is this: To stand in the
universe screaming and schreeching for God to show dare show his face
and justify himself in this world of torment, decay, and darkness, is
bearable when another understands in the blink of an eye the details
and nuances of one's agony. But to stand - alone - with no one who
sees in to your hell, and to go at it alone through fire and under
attack by demon's arrows - that is unbearable.
I need to learn to be satisfied with Friday barbecues in the backyard,
chat about housing prices, marriage without constant passion, Tom
Cruise movies, I don't know . . .this ceaseless question of Why Are we
Here is not the trouble, though it torments. It is to be left to ask
it alone.
Rosena
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| User: "Rosena" |
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| Title: Re: @ At That Place @ |
11 Jun 2005 08:43:54 PM |
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I meant wine to blood - the sacrament - Catholic
Rosena
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| User: "Contrarian" |
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| Title: Re: @ At That Place @ |
14 Jun 2005 09:34:31 PM |
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Rosena <filpriros@aol.com> wrote:
I came across old writings between J*** and ****
someone needs to consider off-site storage, methinks
I too suffer from a kindred ache (nowhere near so fulflilled
so the absence is nowhere near as painful) .... if I keep
going back to the "old" affiliations solely, I'll get only
the same response that I got before...) so I know something
about "not dialing pain" and that it is not easy.
there's a Catullus verse on this, can't remember the
first line beyond "siqua recordanti" (anyway it doesn't
really apply to my situation exactly) also "miser Catulle
desine... (something)
sometimes literature helps sometimes it only exacerbates
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but the edge is still Out there. Or maybe it's In... HST (1967)
when i got to the edge , i built a deck % (2005)
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| User: "Rosena" |
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| Title: Re: @ At That Place @ |
14 Jun 2005 10:21:57 PM |
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Kindred aches . . .nice phrase. Hits it exactly. And yes, one must
learn like a rat that when you go back, the same repeats over and over.
I can't wait to get back to Latin - One of my courses is on Roman Law
and the late Empire and I can't wait. I have never had time to sit and
read all those I should. Cicero has been on my shelf for three years,
and I have only glanced.
Who are your favorites in the classics?
Rosena
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