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Topic: Sociology > Depression
User: "mighty mouse"
Date: 02 May 2006 12:43:08 AM
Object: ***** (bad news)
Well, life sure knows how to kick a girl when she's down.
My psychologist advised that a good way to relieve some of my work related
anxiety would be to talk to my boss about my performance so I can relax and
not worry about being fired all the time. I spoke to him last week and
arranged a meeting.
I knew when I was hired that this job was on a contract and it would only
last 6-8 months. But I believed that if I worked hard and put in a good
performance then they would keep me on in another admin role, since the
company is expanding.
Well, my boss spoke to me today and they are speeding up the timeframe in
which my position is being made redundant. I was given 2 and a half weeks
notice today.
I just sat there. I didn't feel like I was going to cry or anything
similar. I was fired from my last job for no reason at all, and in some
ways I just expect that jobs won't work out for me. Plus it's kind of a
relief that I won't have to drag myself to work every day when I feel crappy
and dead inside.
But if I don't have a job I can't afford to continue with my therapy
sessions for much longer. Maybe a few months, but not the long term therapy
I think I need. Which means I don't have a hope of fixing whatever it is
within me that makes things keep falling apart.
*****. I think that says it all.
Kylie
.

User: "Charles"

Title: Re: ***** (bad news) 02 May 2006 12:47:42 AM
On Tue, 2 May 2006 15:43:08 +1000, "mighty mouse"
<kye_99@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote:

Well, life sure knows how to kick a girl when she's down.

My psychologist advised that a good way to relieve some of my work related
anxiety would be to talk to my boss about my performance so I can relax and
not worry about being fired all the time. I spoke to him last week and
arranged a meeting.

I knew when I was hired that this job was on a contract and it would only
last 6-8 months. But I believed that if I worked hard and put in a good
performance then they would keep me on in another admin role, since the
company is expanding.

Well, my boss spoke to me today and they are speeding up the timeframe in
which my position is being made redundant. I was given 2 and a half weeks
notice today.

I just sat there. I didn't feel like I was going to cry or anything
similar. I was fired from my last job for no reason at all, and in some
ways I just expect that jobs won't work out for me. Plus it's kind of a
relief that I won't have to drag myself to work every day when I feel crappy
and dead inside.

But if I don't have a job I can't afford to continue with my therapy
sessions for much longer. Maybe a few months, but not the long term therapy
I think I need. Which means I don't have a hope of fixing whatever it is
within me that makes things keep falling apart.


*****. I think that says it all.



Yes, that says it all. Will you be able to get a good recommendation
from this job? Is there a temp agency in your area that might give
you something for a while?

Kylie

.
User: "mighty mouse"

Title: Re: ***** (bad news) 02 May 2006 01:26:32 AM
"Charles" <ckraft@SPAMTRAP.west.net> wrote in message
news:5isd529e8ssavs8ne44hdbr3rc6qb8cqm0@4ax.com...

On Tue, 2 May 2006 15:43:08 +1000, "mighty mouse"
<kye_99@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote:

*****. I think that says it all.




Yes, that says it all. Will you be able to get a good recommendation
from this job? Is there a temp agency in your area that might give
you something for a while?

I think I'll be able to get a written and verbal reference from this job,
which will be a help.
I'm looking on the job sites at the moment to see if there's anything
advertised in this area and there are a couple of possiblities. One site
does mention temp jobs in the exact town I live in, but I really don't know
if I'm cut out for temp work. I'm such an anxious person that it takes me a
long time to settle down and relax in a role...if I was temping I'd never be
able to relax because I'd never be in a job long enough. I might call when
my time is up with this job and I'm free to start temp assignments.
I think I'll update my resume and contact the agency I got my current job
through. They do a lot of recruitment for my current employers and a good
reference from them might carry some weight.
I kinda want to stick my head in the sand and sulk for a while, but I know
that's not going to help me in the longer term.
Kylie
.
User: "Charles"

Title: Re: ***** (bad news) 02 May 2006 01:41:06 AM
On Tue, 2 May 2006 16:26:32 +1000, "mighty mouse"
<kye_99@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote:

Yes, that says it all. Will you be able to get a good recommendation
from this job? Is there a temp agency in your area that might give
you something for a while?


I think I'll be able to get a written and verbal reference from this job,
which will be a help.

That part is good.


I'm looking on the job sites at the moment to see if there's anything
advertised in this area and there are a couple of possiblities. One site
does mention temp jobs in the exact town I live in, but I really don't know
if I'm cut out for temp work. I'm such an anxious person that it takes me a
long time to settle down and relax in a role...if I was temping I'd never be
able to relax because I'd never be in a job long enough. I might call when
my time is up with this job and I'm free to start temp assignments.

I've never temped, but I hired a few back when I worked. My goal then
was to make them as much at ease as I could, let them get on with the
work I wanted done. I don't know about other employers, but it seems
to me that would be the right thing to do. I've also heard that
temping is a good way to get into a permanent job. You don't have to
be at ease while you are there, just pretend that you are. If you
pretend well enough, maybe you can fool yourself.

I think I'll update my resume and contact the agency I got my current job
through. They do a lot of recruitment for my current employers and a good
reference from them might carry some weight.

I kinda want to stick my head in the sand and sulk for a while, but I know
that's not going to help me in the longer term.


I know that feeling all to well, I doubt that I could go looking for
work now. Maybe I could, but it would have to be something I could do
without any reservations before I could present myself well. Grieving
is important, as long as it doesn't take over the rest of our life.

Kylie

and Charles
.
User: "mighty mouse"

Title: Re: ***** (bad news) 03 May 2006 01:22:31 AM
"Charles" <ckraft@SPAMTRAP.west.net> wrote in message
news:tdvd52t30itubncrgtdkdcp7220b262hpr@4ax.com...

On Tue, 2 May 2006 16:26:32 +1000, "mighty mouse"
<kye_99@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote:

I've never temped, but I hired a few back when I worked. My goal then

was to make them as much at ease as I could, let them get on with the
work I wanted done. I don't know about other employers, but it seems
to me that would be the right thing to do. I've also heard that
temping is a good way to get into a permanent job. You don't have to
be at ease while you are there, just pretend that you are. If you
pretend well enough, maybe you can fool yourself.

I'm usually pretty good at pretending I'm happy....hopefully I can manage it
for long enough for me to settle in to a temp position.

I think I'll update my resume and contact the agency I got my current job
through. They do a lot of recruitment for my current employers and a

good

reference from them might carry some weight.

I kinda want to stick my head in the sand and sulk for a while, but I

know

that's not going to help me in the longer term.


I know that feeling all to well, I doubt that I could go looking for
work now. Maybe I could, but it would have to be something I could do
without any reservations before I could present myself well. Grieving
is important, as long as it doesn't take over the rest of our life.

I'm looking around online, but I'm deliberately not applying for anything
until at least tomorrow. I need to give the news time to settle in before I
can really throw myself into the whole application and interview roundabout
again.
.
User: "Charles"

Title: Re: ***** (bad news) 03 May 2006 01:39:16 AM
On Wed, 3 May 2006 16:22:31 +1000, "mighty mouse"
<kye_99@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote:


"Charles" <ckraft@SPAMTRAP.west.net> wrote in message
news:tdvd52t30itubncrgtdkdcp7220b262hpr@4ax.com...

On Tue, 2 May 2006 16:26:32 +1000, "mighty mouse"
<kye_99@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote:

I've never temped, but I hired a few back when I worked. My goal then

was to make them as much at ease as I could, let them get on with the
work I wanted done. I don't know about other employers, but it seems
to me that would be the right thing to do. I've also heard that
temping is a good way to get into a permanent job. You don't have to
be at ease while you are there, just pretend that you are. If you
pretend well enough, maybe you can fool yourself.

I'm usually pretty good at pretending I'm happy....hopefully I can manage it
for long enough for me to settle in to a temp position.

I think I'll update my resume and contact the agency I got my current job
through. They do a lot of recruitment for my current employers and a

good

reference from them might carry some weight.

I kinda want to stick my head in the sand and sulk for a while, but I

know

that's not going to help me in the longer term.


I know that feeling all to well, I doubt that I could go looking for
work now. Maybe I could, but it would have to be something I could do
without any reservations before I could present myself well. Grieving
is important, as long as it doesn't take over the rest of our life.


I'm looking around online, but I'm deliberately not applying for anything
until at least tomorrow. I need to give the news time to settle in before I
can really throw myself into the whole application and interview roundabout
again.

Well, good luck with it.
.



User: "lisa in mass."

Title: Re: ***** (bad news) 02 May 2006 08:00:18 PM
mighty mouse wrote...


"Charles" <ckraft@SPAMTRAP.west.net> wrote in message
news:5isd529e8ssavs8ne44hdbr3rc6qb8cqm0@4ax.com...

On Tue, 2 May 2006 15:43:08 +1000, "mighty mouse"
<kye_99@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote:

*****. I think that says it all.




Yes, that says it all. Will you be able to get a good
recommendation from this job? Is there a temp agency in
your area that might give you something for a while?


I think I'll be able to get a written and verbal reference
from this job, which will be a help.

I'm looking on the job sites at the moment to see if
there's anything advertised in this area and there are a
couple of possiblities. One site does mention temp jobs in
the exact town I live in, but I really don't know if I'm
cut out for temp work. I'm such an anxious person that it
takes me a long time to settle down and relax in a
role...if I was temping I'd never be able to relax because
I'd never be in a job long enough. I might call when my
time is up with this job and I'm free to start temp
assignments.

I think I'll update my resume and contact the agency I got
my current job through. They do a lot of recruitment for
my current employers and a good reference from them might
carry some weight.

I kinda want to stick my head in the sand and sulk for a
while, but I know that's not going to help me in the longer
term.

a good recommendation would go a long way with the agency. and
maybe they feel that the project moved forward so quickly in
part because of your work. being on a project that's completed
ahead of schedule is always good.
i hope you find something even better, kylie.
-lisa
.
User: "mighty mouse"

Title: Re: ***** (bad news) 03 May 2006 01:29:18 AM
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns97B7D5A87CA4Fmccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4...

mighty mouse wrote...

a good recommendation would go a long way with the agency. and
maybe they feel that the project moved forward so quickly in
part because of your work. being on a project that's completed
ahead of schedule is always good.

i hope you find something even better, kylie.

-lisa

Thanks Lisa.
I wasn't really hired for a specific project. When the accounts person
before me resigned it was decided that a lot of those duties would be passed
off to other people in the company, but that that would take time to
impliment. I was hired to do the work in the meantime and also because I'm
a qualified workplace trainer and could develop a training program to teach
other people the work once I had learned it myself. I knew the position
would eventually end, but I was lead to believe that it was likely there
would be another position for me at the end of that contract.
Instead they decided to send most of the accounts tasks to the Melbourne
office and therefore most of the training componant of my position wouldn't
be necessary. So my position will become redundant 2 months before the end
of my contract and now all the admin is being centralised in Melboune so
there will be no other positions they can put me into.
Hopefully things will work out and I'll find something quickly. I'm trying
to stay positive.
Kylie
.



User: "Contrarian"

Title: Re: ***** (bad news) 02 May 2006 12:57:59 AM
Charles <ckraft@spamtrap.west.net> wrote:

On Tue, 2 May 2006 15:43:08 +1000, "mighty mouse"
<kye_99@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote:

My psychologist advised that a good way to relieve some of my work related
anxiety would be to talk to my boss about my performance so I can relax and
not worry about being fired all the time.

Nice idea. Lots of times what a therapist says just
has no connection to Life As It Is, though.

--- I think that says it all.

[Charles] Yes, that says it all.


Yup. I know about expectations (of success and failure)
and the relief of not working and the downside. It's not
good. Stability is better. Hoping you find it.
--
but the edge is still Out there. Or maybe it's In... HST (1967)
when i got to the edge , i built a deck % (2005)
.
User: "mighty mouse"

Title: Re: ***** (bad news) 02 May 2006 01:31:50 AM
"Contrarian" <adrba65@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:HxC5g.833$5J6.185@newsread1.mlpsca01.us.to.verio.net...


Charles <ckraft@spamtrap.west.net> wrote:

On Tue, 2 May 2006 15:43:08 +1000, "mighty mouse"
<kye_99@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote:

My psychologist advised that a good way to relieve some of my work

related

anxiety would be to talk to my boss about my performance so I can relax

and

not worry about being fired all the time.


Nice idea. Lots of times what a therapist says just
has no connection to Life As It Is, though.

It would work in an ideal world. Problem is he assumed that my employer was
actually happy with my work and would give me positive reinforcement. But
although my work wasn't directly criticised, I obviously wasn't doing such a
great job that they couldn't do without me.

--- I think that says it all.


[Charles] Yes, that says it all.


Yup. I know about expectations (of success and failure)
and the relief of not working and the downside. It's not
good. Stability is better. Hoping you find it.

I haven't seen stability in almost 2 years. I've had 4 jobs (including this
one) in that time, and I've either been fired or left because my depression
was getting worse in each case. I'm not incompetant, I just have no
confidence and some totally screwed up neurochemicals that keep sabotaging
my chances at getting my life together.
Sorry you know how this feels.
Kylie

--
but the edge is still Out there. Or maybe it's In... HST (1967)
when i got to the edge , i built a deck % (2005)

.



User: "CyberDroog"

Title: Re: ***** (bad news) 02 May 2006 04:30:22 AM
On Tue, 2 May 2006 15:43:08 +1000, "mighty mouse" <kye_99@NOSPAMyahoo.com>
wrote:

Well, life sure knows how to kick a girl when she's down.

My psychologist advised that a good way to relieve some of my work related
anxiety would be to talk to my boss about my performance so I can relax and
not worry about being fired all the time. I spoke to him last week and
arranged a meeting.

I knew when I was hired that this job was on a contract and it would only
last 6-8 months. But I believed that if I worked hard and put in a good
performance then they would keep me on in another admin role, since the
company is expanding.

Well, my boss spoke to me today and they are speeding up the timeframe in
which my position is being made redundant. I was given 2 and a half weeks
notice today.

Sounds like grounds for a lawsuit under the ADA. Tell the story to your
psychologist and then contact a lawyer. ADA cases are handled on a
contingency basis, so it won't cost you a dime.
--
There's a basic human weakness inherent in all people which tempts them
to want what they can't have and not want what is readily available to
them.
- Robert J. Ringer
.
User: "mighty mouse"

Title: Re: ***** (bad news) 02 May 2006 04:49:20 AM
"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote in message
news:dh9e52hkor0okgvkvebaifh07mbsl9j1t7@news.easynews.com...

On Tue, 2 May 2006 15:43:08 +1000, "mighty mouse" <kye_99@NOSPAMyahoo.com>
wrote:

Sounds like grounds for a lawsuit under the ADA. Tell the story to your
psychologist and then contact a lawyer. ADA cases are handled on a
contingency basis, so it won't cost you a dime.

--
There's a basic human weakness inherent in all people which tempts them
to want what they can't have and not want what is readily available to
them.

- Robert J. Ringer

I'm in Australia where the government has recently brought in legislation
giving workers a lot fewer rights in relation to unfair dismissal, and
making any legal action very expensive so that most people can't afford it.
I know a little bit about employment law, and since my position has
officially been made redundant I really don't think there is anything I can
do legally. If I was able to take action and was successful all I would
gain would be either reinstatement in my position (which no longer exists)
or a payout of my average weekly wage x the number of weeks left in my
contract (which is only another couple of months). The amount of money it
would cost to do that far outweighs the best possible return.
Kylie
.
User: "CyberDroog"

Title: Re: ***** (bad news) 02 May 2006 12:57:03 PM
On Tue, 2 May 2006 19:49:20 +1000, "mighty mouse" <kye_99@NOSPAMyahoo.com>
wrote:

"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote in message
news:dh9e52hkor0okgvkvebaifh07mbsl9j1t7@news.easynews.com...


Sounds like grounds for a lawsuit under the ADA. Tell the story to your
psychologist and then contact a lawyer. ADA cases are handled on a
contingency basis, so it won't cost you a dime.


I'm in Australia where the government has recently brought in legislation
giving workers a lot fewer rights in relation to unfair dismissal, and
making any legal action very expensive so that most people can't afford it.

I know a little bit about employment law, and since my position has
officially been made redundant I really don't think there is anything I can
do legally. If I was able to take action and was successful all I would
gain would be either reinstatement in my position (which no longer exists)
or a payout of my average weekly wage x the number of weeks left in my
contract (which is only another couple of months). The amount of money it
would cost to do that far outweighs the best possible return.

I thought Australia was more progressive than that.
--
If there is something to gain and nothing to lose by asking, by all means
ask!
- W. Clement Stone
.
User: "yuluwirri"

Title: Re: ***** (bad news) 02 May 2006 03:40:12 PM
x-no-archive: yes
On Tue, 02 May 2006 17:57:03 GMT, CyberDroog
<CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote:

On Tue, 2 May 2006 19:49:20 +1000, "mighty mouse" <kye_99@NOSPAMyahoo.com>
wrote:

"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote in message
news:dh9e52hkor0okgvkvebaifh07mbsl9j1t7@news.easynews.com...


Sounds like grounds for a lawsuit under the ADA. Tell the story to your
psychologist and then contact a lawyer. ADA cases are handled on a
contingency basis, so it won't cost you a dime.


I'm in Australia where the government has recently brought in legislation
giving workers a lot fewer rights in relation to unfair dismissal, and
making any legal action very expensive so that most people can't afford it.

I know a little bit about employment law, and since my position has
officially been made redundant I really don't think there is anything I can
do legally. If I was able to take action and was successful all I would
gain would be either reinstatement in my position (which no longer exists)
or a payout of my average weekly wage x the number of weeks left in my
contract (which is only another couple of months). The amount of money it
would cost to do that far outweighs the best possible return.


I thought Australia was more progressive than that.

Yeah, well you can thank John Howard for introducing this course of
events. All the years the workers fought hard for their rights gone
right out the window. (They have the majority in the senate, so the
bill passed through easily) :(
--
yuluwirri
~~~~~~~
Fish know.
~~~~~~~
yuluwirri@hotmail.com
.




User: ""

Title: Re: ***** (bad news) 02 May 2006 09:58:31 AM
did you get a performance evaluation?
.
User: "mighty mouse"

Title: Re: ***** (bad news) 03 May 2006 01:09:14 AM
<hominid_harrys_house_of_hos@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1146581910.978446.189670@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

did you get a performance evaluation?

I had a verbal evaluation about three months ago (one month into the
position) where I was told I was doing ok but I needed to work faster while
maintaining my accuracy. I did this and it was never mentioned again. I
was supposed to have a three month verbal evaluation a month ago but that
never happened.
I'm due to speak to my boss again tomorrow afternoon and I intend to ask for
a written reference and his permission to put his phone number on my resume
so prospective employers can call him for a verbal reference.
Kylie
.
User: "Jesters mummy"

Title: Re: ***** (bad news) 03 May 2006 06:43:19 PM
On Wed, 3 May 2006 16:09:14 +1000, "mighty mouse" <kye_99@NOSPAMyahoo.com>
wrote:

<(((*>I had a verbal evaluation about three months ago (one month into the
<(((*>position) where I was told I was doing ok but I needed to work faster while
<(((*>maintaining my accuracy. I did this and it was never mentioned again. I
<(((*>was supposed to have a three month verbal evaluation a month ago but that
<(((*>never happened.
<(((*>
<(((*>I'm due to speak to my boss again tomorrow afternoon and I intend to ask for
<(((*>a written reference and his permission to put his phone number on my resume
<(((*>so prospective employers can call him for a verbal reference.

And then when he has said "Yes", you should find someone who will phone him and
ask for the verbal reference so you know what he is going to say when the
prospective employers give him a call. Seriously.
Also, since you didn't get the verbal 3-month reference, you are probably within
your rights to ask him about it. Was it overlooked because they were thinking of
dropping you, or maybe they were so satisfied that they didn't bother. It makes
a difference which one it was.
Tara J. Ballance
Montreal, Canada
.



User: "Gayle"

Title: Re: ***** (bad news) 02 May 2006 09:40:40 AM
mighty mouse wrote:

Well, life sure knows how to kick a girl when she's down.

***** is right, Kylie. I do hope it
doesn't kick a big dent in you.
Unnerving as the idea of temping is, it
may be the best path forward now. Keep
posting about it, please?
Gayle
.
User: "mighty mouse"

Title: Re: ***** (bad news) 03 May 2006 01:14:27 AM
"Gayle" <gayleco@rcn.com> wrote in message
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mighty mouse wrote:

Well, life sure knows how to kick a girl when she's down.


***** is right, Kylie. I do hope it
doesn't kick a big dent in you.
Unnerving as the idea of temping is, it
may be the best path forward now. Keep
posting about it, please?

Gayle

I'll speak to my boss tomorrow and get his permission to use him as a
reference, and to also organise a written reference. Once I have that I'll
start applying for jobs and I'll contact that temp agency that advertised
positions in my area. I'll let you know how that goes in the next couple of
days.
I was a bit upset last night, but I'm mostly numb about everything, which is
probably helping. My boss asked me to work back today and cover for the
receptionist, and to do some at the bank for her, which isn't part of my
job. Part of me considered telling him exactly where to stick it, but I've
got to maintain my professionalism. I need a good reference more than I
need to vent at him.
.


User: "punk"

Title: Re: ***** (bad news) 02 May 2006 08:17:06 AM
sorry to hear about the quick notice. that sucks. i hope you find
work you enjoy soon.
mighty mouse wrote:

Well, life sure knows how to kick a girl when she's down.

My psychologist advised that a good way to relieve some of my work related
anxiety would be to talk to my boss about my performance so I can relax and
not worry about being fired all the time. I spoke to him last week and
arranged a meeting.

I knew when I was hired that this job was on a contract and it would only
last 6-8 months. But I believed that if I worked hard and put in a good
performance then they would keep me on in another admin role, since the
company is expanding.

Well, my boss spoke to me today and they are speeding up the timeframe in
which my position is being made redundant. I was given 2 and a half weeks
notice today.

I just sat there. I didn't feel like I was going to cry or anything
similar. I was fired from my last job for no reason at all, and in some
ways I just expect that jobs won't work out for me. Plus it's kind of a
relief that I won't have to drag myself to work every day when I feel crappy
and dead inside.

But if I don't have a job I can't afford to continue with my therapy
sessions for much longer. Maybe a few months, but not the long term therapy
I think I need. Which means I don't have a hope of fixing whatever it is
within me that makes things keep falling apart.


*****. I think that says it all.



Kylie

.
User: "mighty mouse"

Title: Re: ***** (bad news) 03 May 2006 01:15:29 AM
"punk" <punkn05@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1146575826.834261.141630@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

sorry to hear about the quick notice. that sucks. i hope you find
work you enjoy soon.

Thanks Punk. Something will come along, I just hope it doesn't take too
long.
Kylie
.


User: "yuluwirri"

Title: Re: ***** (bad news) 02 May 2006 03:37:38 PM
x-no-archive: yes
On Tue, 2 May 2006 15:43:08 +1000, "mighty mouse"
<kye_99@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote:

Well, life sure knows how to kick a girl when she's down.

My psychologist advised that a good way to relieve some of my work related
anxiety would be to talk to my boss about my performance so I can relax and
not worry about being fired all the time. I spoke to him last week and
arranged a meeting.

I knew when I was hired that this job was on a contract and it would only
last 6-8 months. But I believed that if I worked hard and put in a good
performance then they would keep me on in another admin role, since the
company is expanding.

Well, my boss spoke to me today and they are speeding up the timeframe in
which my position is being made redundant. I was given 2 and a half weeks
notice today.

I just sat there. I didn't feel like I was going to cry or anything
similar. I was fired from my last job for no reason at all, and in some
ways I just expect that jobs won't work out for me. Plus it's kind of a
relief that I won't have to drag myself to work every day when I feel crappy
and dead inside.

But if I don't have a job I can't afford to continue with my therapy
sessions for much longer. Maybe a few months, but not the long term therapy
I think I need. Which means I don't have a hope of fixing whatever it is
within me that makes things keep falling apart.


*****. I think that says it all.

Kylie, you live in Australia right? What about making several
appointments with psychiatrists and picking one to be your therapist?
That way you can get some rebate from Medicare and it won't cost you
an arm and a leg each time you go. Your current psychologist can write
the referral for you, or your G.P. will do it too.
I see a psych for therapy and he also does my medication. If you ask
around, you may get some good feed-back on a doc in your area. That
way you need not go without therapy when you need it the most. What do
you think?



Kylie

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User: "mighty mouse"

Title: Re: ***** (bad news) 03 May 2006 01:04:52 AM
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"yuluwirri" <yuluwirri@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Kylie, you live in Australia right? What about making several
appointments with psychiatrists and picking one to be your therapist?
That way you can get some rebate from Medicare and it won't cost you
an arm and a leg each time you go. Your current psychologist can write
the referral for you, or your G.P. will do it too.

I see a psych for therapy and he also does my medication. If you ask
around, you may get some good feed-back on a doc in your area. That
way you need not go without therapy when you need it the most. What do
you think?

Yep I'm about an hour to an hour and a half east of Melbourne.
I have a great psychiatrist in the inner suburbs who I still drive in to see
every couple of months (on average) who is a great listener. The time I
spend talking to him is usually a great deal more helpful than some of the
therapy sessions I've had. But he's so far away and doesn't have the time
to see me often enough (ie every couple of weeks) for therapy sessions.
He's the one encouraged me to find a psychologist or counsellor in my area
because he thinks therapy will help me more than a med increase or change at
the moment.
My current therapist does have an agreement with Medicare that if I can get
a GP to sign a form agreeing that I need therapy I get 5 sessions at half
price ($50 instead of the usual $100) and Medicare pays the rest. I haven't
used that option yet, I was saving it for just this situation. That and my
savings will hopefully keep me in therapy for a while longer. Assuming my
relationship with my current therapist remains ok (I've been critical of his
technique and he's trying to change his approach with me) and I can continue
to see him.
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Title: Re: ***** (bad news) 03 May 2006 03:10:41 PM
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On Wed, 3 May 2006 16:04:52 +1000, "mighty mouse"
<kye_99@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote:

"yuluwirri" <yuluwirri@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Kylie, you live in Australia right? What about making several
appointments with psychiatrists and picking one to be your therapist?
That way you can get some rebate from Medicare and it won't cost you
an arm and a leg each time you go. Your current psychologist can write
the referral for you, or your G.P. will do it too.

I see a psych for therapy and he also does my medication. If you ask
around, you may get some good feed-back on a doc in your area. That
way you need not go without therapy when you need it the most. What do
you think?


Yep I'm about an hour to an hour and a half east of Melbourne.

Okay. So you would be a bit short on shrinks in your area. That's such
a shame.

I have a great psychiatrist in the inner suburbs who I still drive in to see
every couple of months (on average) who is a great listener. The time I
spend talking to him is usually a great deal more helpful than some of the
therapy sessions I've had. But he's so far away and doesn't have the time
to see me often enough (ie every couple of weeks) for therapy sessions.
He's the one encouraged me to find a psychologist or counsellor in my area
because he thinks therapy will help me more than a med increase or change at
the moment.

And he doesn't know of any psychs that work in your rural area? Or
rather, any good ones at least. It's hard for our country folk trying
to get help I know. I truly wish that our docs considered moving to
the country after they have trained but many don't.

My current therapist does have an agreement with Medicare that if I can get
a GP to sign a form agreeing that I need therapy I get 5 sessions at half
price ($50 instead of the usual $100) and Medicare pays the rest. I haven't
used that option yet, I was saving it for just this situation. That and my
savings will hopefully keep me in therapy for a while longer. Assuming my
relationship with my current therapist remains ok (I've been critical of his
technique and he's trying to change his approach with me) and I can continue
to see him.

Well best of luck Kylie. Please don't stay if you don't feel it's
helping you as you are paying quite a lot of money to see this guy. He
needs to be putting in a lot of good work with you to make it
worthwhile. I hope there comes a day where medicare helps pay more for
our psychologists. I've often thought that they are of more help than
our psychiatrists although I have managed to snag a good one this
time.
Keep us informed eh?
Best,
G


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