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Topic: Sociology > Depression
User: "Rosena"
Date: 27 May 2005 05:02:20 PM
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Went to doctor today and staples were removed. Went to work for a bit.
Wish I could say in top shape but truth is I am real tierd and still
sick to stomach. I think it is all about patience as everyone says.
I have much work to do, but let myself get side tracked on a future
project. I am going to do an article on revenge in The Oresteia and I
wish to follow the thought out in the direction that Nietzsche points
turning to him, as it were, as the gold standard.
This is foolish to do. I need my teacher Nonet to guide me and he and
I have not spoken for 8 years ever since he got angry that I had John
pulled out of his class in the middle of a lecture to come to the
phone. John was refusing my calls concerning our baby and I was
determined he would not diss me. Nonet saw "the work" and his lecture
as the only important concern, he told me later in a brusque and cruel
tone, "abort the baby and damn the ***** [john] to hell!" All Nonet
cares about is the work. BUT he is the greatest philosophical thinker
since Heidegger, and I need him as a teacher (wagner was a ***** too
but I'd give a finger to have studied music with him).
Nietzsche and the Greek tragedies are hard going alone. Not sure I am
up to it . . . but Nietzsche was - in my well hay days pre-John -- the
thinker I understood the best and Nonet credited me as having a keener
discernment of him than any grduate student. (puff puff) I guess it is
one more way to keep trying to reclaim my life . . .
Revenge . . .nice subject eh?
Rosena
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User: "Used2be"

Title: Re: @ chatter @ 27 May 2005 07:58:43 PM
"Rosena" <filpriros@aol.com> wrote
<snip>

Revenge . . .nice subject eh?

nice, indeed.
:)
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User: "Alan Harding"

Title: Re: @ chatter @ 28 May 2005 03:30:19 AM
In message <1117231340.753293.198000@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
Rosena <filpriros@aol.com> writes


Revenge . . .nice subject eh?

Have you ever considered that your subject selections might reflect you
personal feelings?
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
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User: "Whiskers"

Title: Re: @ chatter @ 29 May 2005 10:39:25 AM
On 2005-05-27, Rosena <filpriros@aol.com> wrote:

Went to doctor today and staples were removed. Went to work for a bit.
Wish I could say in top shape but truth is I am real tierd and still
sick to stomach. I think it is all about patience as everyone says.

Ouch :(( But progress. Of course you are tired and sore!

I have much work to do, but let myself get side tracked on a future
project. I am going to do an article on revenge in The Oresteia and I
wish to follow the thought out in the direction that Nietzsche points
turning to him, as it were, as the gold standard.

This is foolish to do. I need my teacher Nonet to guide me and he and
I have not spoken for 8 years ever since he got angry that I had John
pulled out of his class in the middle of a lecture to come to the
phone. John was refusing my calls concerning our baby and I was
determined he would not diss me. Nonet saw "the work" and his lecture
as the only important concern, he told me later in a brusque and cruel
tone, "abort the baby and damn the ***** [john] to hell!" All Nonet
cares about is the work. BUT he is the greatest philosophical thinker
since Heidegger, and I need him as a teacher (wagner was a ***** too
but I'd give a finger to have studied music with him).

Nietzsche and the Greek tragedies are hard going alone. Not sure I am
up to it . . . but Nietzsche was - in my well hay days pre-John -- the
thinker I understood the best and Nonet credited me as having a keener
discernment of him than any grduate student. (puff puff) I guess it is
one more way to keep trying to reclaim my life . . .

Revenge . . .nice subject eh?

Rosena

I'm guessing you mean this Nonet
<http://netlaw.samford.edu/olson/nonet.html>.
..-----
| [...]
| Why did the judges judge badly before Zeus intervened? Zeus himself
| explains: the judgments were bad because both the judges and the judged
| were alive.
| [...]
| In this question lies a clue to another much neglected teaching of the
| Gorgias. The dialogue discusses the art of rhetoric. In and by this
| discussion it teaches the difference between what seems and what is. Is it
| perhaps also the case that the matter of the dialogue is not what it
| appears to discuss?
| [...]
'-----
Try this one too <http://www.mikekaplannonet.com/> ;))
--
-- ^^^^^^^^^^
-- Whiskers
-- ~~~~~~~~~~
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User: "Contrarian"

Title: Re: @ chatter @ 29 May 2005 11:24:08 PM
Rosena <filpriros@aol.com> wrote:

Nietzsche and the Greek tragedies are hard going alone.

that I'll grant. whatever one thinks of N. he was an
accomplished classicist -- vide his remarks on the end
of Plato's Apology.

up to it . . . but Nietzsche was - in my well hay days pre-John -- the
thinker I understood the best

Hmm. Have been reading, sort of, the Whitaker Chambers Ralph de
Toledano correspondence. Chambers says "we are all Nietzscheans
to an extent which would have horrified him" but doesn't explain.
He also says that the Hiss Chambers trials were an example
of a true tragedy, remarking that Hiss understood him better
than many of his supporters; and about the part social stupidity
had in all of that.
I admit I would not be reading the book if I hadn't gotten it
cheaply.

Revenge . . .nice subject eh?

Go for it. at festine lente.
--
but the edge is still Out there. Or maybe it's In... HST (1967)
when i got to the edge , i built a deck % (2005)
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User: "lisa in mass."

Title: Re: @ chatter @ 27 May 2005 11:11:36 PM
Rosena wrote...

Revenge . . .nice subject eh?

sounds like fun!
-lisa
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